Mahjong Thread

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Is this beginner's luck? It seems like it was either shimocha giving me chanta or toimen giving me a lower-scoring hand, provided that I do not decline the ron.

>>16896019
No, that's normal. Open chanta is a terribly overrated yaku and is best used when you either get a set of dora or combine it with something you already have like here. The mistake most beginners make is thinking chanta is roughly on the same level of difficulty as tanyao and end up chasing it in ridiculous situations.

3:8, /a/ must be here or something

>so much tanoshii~~~~

Hi, do you guys know of any online/pirateable beginner resources in Japanese?

>>16896357
http://beginners.biz/ is all you will need if you need Japanese articles

>>16896440
Thanks.

>>16896147
What would happen if /v/ joins the fray?

>>16899232
7447 chat would be spammed and there would be 新人 players everywhere

>>16896147
they are
>>16899232
nothing, nobody else it's on /v/ that isn't on /a/ or /jp/ (at least when MJ is concerned)

>>16899232
>>16899424
/jp/ vs. /v/ vs. /a/ vs. /tg/ mahjong tournament when?

>>16899474
never because most of the people are crossborder to begin with and I don't think we can get a saki style match with 20 different people

>>16899483
Invite /u/ and perhaps we can get Saki-style matches

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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017042108gm-0029-0000-3762d989&tw=0

This is Tokujou. These are a 7th and 8th dan, both over 2k R, playing in Tokujou.

I'll say it again. This is no an ippan game, this is in Tokujou.

3:8 by the way.

>>16899669
At least you punished the 7 dan.

>>16899654
Ridiculous!

http://www30.atpages.jp/mojan/dbranking_all.php?l=L7447&m=0
>in top 10 now
damn, I don't deserve this

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>South 4
>Barely holding on
>Already showing nan dora 4
>Fuck it, RIICHI
>Ippatsumo

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017042214gm-0059-0000-8bc9767b&tw=1

Oh lord, that last round was stupid.

20 game losing streak: 0+4+10+6 = 20戦

Why yes, my rating has fallen enormously this month.

I'm relatively new, but I was doing much better than this the last couple months. Haven't changed rooms or anything, still at the bottom, but this really feels like I must be playing significantly worse.

Have you ever started playing much worse, not on a given night but over a several-week period? Did any of you figure out what you started doing wrong?

twitch tv / sc2reva

Mahjong Tournament live casting.

>>16901480
I'm right there with you friend. My play style which was reliable for months has backfired and now I'm on the edge of deranking. What's bad luck and what's bad play? What could I have done differently? How did they know to play their hands the way they did?

All questions with no clear answer, but reviewing replays is still the best way to learn imo

3.4

To the people going through slumps: Bad luck is a thing. You don't need to rethink your entire world just because you got unlucky too many times in a row. A lot of times there just wasn't anything you could have knowingly done to improve those games.

>>16903142
Isn't that just giving yourself an excuse however? I've dealt into ridiculous dama hands on the third turn but it's naive to think it was the only reason.

To the people going through slumps: Tenhou recognizes non-Japanese IPs and gives you worse luck when the % of foreign players ranking up gets too high in order to preserve yamato damashii.

>>16903331
I KNEW IT!

Think they'd give me a pass if I bought an account?

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Will I now have the pussy magnet next to my name when I join a lobby?

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>>16903504

>>16903504
You need 1800 for that.

At 2000 you get a nice little fade in, so people know you're hot shit.

>>16903504
>>16903628
yes, in a private lobby over 1600 will show, in L0 only with 1800

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The badge is there for a reason

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>>16904567
You got me on East 3. I had 2 of your 4 outs and was sitting on mangan, but deal in anyway. Shimocha was pretty close to kokushi though.

>>16903331

Source? Because fuck Tenhou if it's true.

>>16904640
I wasn't seriousing you baka.

>>16904640

It honestly wouldn't surprise me.

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>Therefore, when we draw a tile next to the head, creating a side-wait protorun, we should keep it and break the double closed shape instead
I don't understand why. Keeping the double closed shape will let you accept more tiles in 1-shanten.

>>16904907
The first one is obvious, you get to tenpai with calling a chun.

The second one is much more debatable.

>>16904949
You get to tenpai by calling chun no matter if you discard 2s, 6s, 2m or 5m first, though. The uke-ire are higher because you can get into tenpai by drawing 3m or 6m and keep chun as your pair. That still leaves you with a kanchan wait, though. I would break up the 2-4-6 shape in the above example as well, but not because of the kanchan wait, but because of improved uke-ire. If we're going by the chance to end up with ryanmen wait I don't see how discarding 2m or 5m isn't ideal.

3:0

>>16905116
Because prioritizing ryanmen isn't the goal here. It's a garbage hand, so speed is way more important than wait quality. You figure there is a very good chance you will betaori anyway.

3:4

>>16904726
The Japanese mahjong community is friendly to baka gaijins, you baka.

>>16905368
If you discard 2s or 6s the only uke-ire you get are 3m and 6m and both of them will get you into tenpai with a complete gabage hand: no yaku (except riichi) and a kanchan wait. Yes, the hand is technically faster, but what it is faster at is getting you into a shape that is so bad you don't even want to get into tenpai with.

2:0

>>16904618
Such is life

>>16905564
Not most jansou in Japan.

>>16907203
They're fine with anyone as long as you know what you're doing and can communicate clearly

>>16907203
Give source saying how most jansou are unfriendly to foreigners who can speak Japanese and know how to play the game.

>>16907620
Foreigners are usually not permitted to enter such buildings, so we can only guess how they might treat a foreigner.

>>16907819
I played in Shibuton just fine. Those folks in osamuko plays regularly in rate jansou.

S2
>Get into tenpai for mangan
>Play into a pointless dama hand for 5200

S3-1
>Play into a 5200 points hand by discarding a chun on the 7th discard that has gone through 3 turns before

S3-2
>be in tenpai
>shimocha declares riichi
>plan to defend because my wait is bad
>draw the tile I need to update my wait to ryanmen and decent hand value
>Go for it because it's S3 and I'm in last place and need the points
>Deal into double ron, one of them with ippatsu and bust out under 0 points

This was some next level bullshit.

>>16893509
When will we see Teru actually doing something

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So I just got done with this match and decided to check the replay because something seemed odd about this round.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017042323gm-0029-0000-3c641dad&tw=2&ts=9

Just look at it. "Conflicted" doesn't begin to describe how I'm feeling about it.

I broke the first tenpai to keep the dora. A risky move, but it paid off. Then I hit tenpai with an oya haneman but I didn't call riichi. I was very split on this. On one hand, I was last and with a riichi I could put some pressure, maybe even make it a baiman with some ura, but I also felt I could get a better wait by waiting.

Then I deal in but the guy decides not to ron me. I don't get this. If I had called riichi, I feel he would have definitely ronned me. At any rate, he saved my ass.

And then he proceeds to ron the kamicha into last place, effectively saving my ass again.

I was feeling glad I had managed to squirm my way into second place even though I dealt in like a retard before, but now I feel like it was all on this guy.

>>16908980
Maybe he opted for bigger win because it's early round part and 4k lead at S4 wasn't safe? He was East at S4 so tsumo could drag him down to 2nd or even 3rd. But yeah, I can't see why he passed that ron at S tile.
Your kamicha's 9p discard is also weird. Overconfident, I guess?

>>16908980
You were saved by Majin, clearly.

http://mj-news.net/game-app/2017022860658

>>16909616
pretty cool

>>16908670
>not defending so you can get a yakuman in S4
your fault man

>>16907304
>you know what you're doing and can communicate clearly
By which, most do not.

>>16910390
all you need to know is how to say numbers

Does tenhou not let you keep playing a game after a set number of disconnects?

>>16911088
Three strikes and you're out. Having someone that disconnects a lot is pretty fucking annoying, so I'm not against that rule, no matters how many times it has fucked me over. Just make sure your connection is steady before playing.

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Yea, now I'm royally fucking pissed

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>>16912020
How the fuck are you crashing and burning that hard? You need to step the fuck back. Even your 7447 stats are shit. If you can't keep even average placement against the people there, you won't have a chance to push back into Tokujou.

The last time I had problems I just completely stopped for a month, reread the Daina Chiba book and played a ton against AIs.

>>16899483
We (/a/ and /jp/) had a tournament last year in February.

>>16912083
I'm also experiencing a similar burn. I switched over to my secondary account while I ride it out. Ironically I'm doing very well now, so I'm hesitant to return to my main.

>>16912020
>8+15+15+16

>>16912110
Wanna see how bad tokujou kicked me out?

3:0

>>16912083
He just sucks but got into a lucky streak to 5d.

>>16912934
>lucky streak
Funny thing is. That's one of my indicators, as to whether a player sucks or not. If he/she attributes winning and losing to luck first. You're a fucking dipshit, if you think that.

>>16913206
What if you automatically attribute winning to luck and losing to lack of skill?

2:0

3:0

>>16913206
>he doesn't believe in the heart of the cards

>>16913206

>rejecting luck as a real factor
>more importantly, NOT understanding what people mean when they say they were lucky/unlucky

I wish I could gamble with people like you all the time because you're probably an easy target to take money from. :)

Attributing wins to good luck is a way of being modest and gracious about your wins.

Attributing losses to bad luck is a way of keeping yourself confident and focused for the next games. It helps avoid slumping and deviating from your personal playstyle, which is built upon a strong foundation.

>>16912020
You're deal-in rate is high, you might want to defend more.

>>16913299
Then you have a dysfunctional explanatory style.

>>16915369
What's a good deal-in rate?

>>16916042
≤ 0.100

>>16916042

what >>16916235 said if you're a great mahjong player. otherwise, -0.08 off of your hand win rate.

>>16915411
This.

Brains have a nasty way of choosing a habit and maintaining them -- when they work. But when things don't work. Then it's a mix of panic and desperation mode. Throw in some irritability, and you have a downward spiral in your hands,

>>16916042
>>16916235
≤ 0.100 is most likely to low, at that point you either play against opponents below your level or you should play more aggressively.
Between .13 and .14 is ok for a tokujou player, below .13 is good.

>>16916042
Depends on your win rate and how much your average hand value is.

The rule of thumb is that your win rate should be .10 more than your deal in rate, but if you are winning big and often, you can get away with a differential of around .075.

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Why even live?

>>16921011
I was going to tell you to take it in stride since everyone else also took the hit, but then I saw that you were north and the tiebreaker rule put you in 4th.

...You'll bounce back!

>>16921011
get over 1800R and hopefully you won't have players that feed into that any more

>>16921011
you also got 4th because seat order

I feel you bro

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>>16921011

>>16922004
You'd be surprised.

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This month. Show me your suffering:

7+15+14+8 = 44戦 (joukyuu)

12+11+11+22 = 56戦 (tokujou)

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>>16922004
>>16922646
Possibilities have no limits.

>>16923789
>There's 3 nan visible
>It's kamicha's genbutsu pair
>There's already a xia on the table
>The Tenhou is dead last
>What are the odds?
--Toimen

Literally reviving from the ashes.
Poor 9 dan getting knocked into second.

>>16923676
15+12+10+6 = 43

I'm doing great with my dipshit secondary account I use to fuck around in ippan. I've been doing awful with my main so I go addicted to winning against shit players.

>>16923676
8+4+4+5 = 21 in joukyuu
Also reached 1800+ this month but am still 2nd dan. Leveling dan ranks takes so fucking long if you don't have much time to play.

Has anyone else noticed a lot of idiots disconnecting after dealing into a big hand recently?

It's happened in my last 4 games.

>>16926832
I see them disconnecting even in 1st

>>16926838
Yeah but I figure when you disconnect in first you probably actually had connection troubles.

But it seems like there has been an uptick (for me anyway) of people dealing into a big hand, falling to 4th, and then disconnecting, even when it's early in the game. Which I assume is reasonably often a rage quit.

>>16926832
If you're playing in ippan, it happens often enough.

3:0

>>16926832
Just had a game where I went down to 2600 to a dealer haneman. By the end I was able to finish second.

You never know how the game will go, so there's zero point in just disconnecting when you have chances to turn it around.

>>16926832
I'll disconnect in south 4 if I'm last and have an absolutely shit starting hand.

>>16930613
I was in this situation the other day and 3rd place dealt into a dealer yakuman.

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what would you discard here?

>>16923676
I just broke my losing streak. But here are my games for the month:
1+8+15+7 = 31戦

It still doesn't feel that good.

>>16931645
9m?
That or 6p or 9s. No safe options. I go with 9m though, based on I don't know what.

I'm also bad at mahjong, so I'm hoping someone will come yell at me that the answer is obviously whatever for reasons.

>>16931645
9 sou

>>16931645
No good options, 9s because it's at least half suji to all 3 players and a terminal.

>>16931645
8s, maybe 9s.

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>>16931794
>>16931972
>>16931982
>>16932028
Well...

>>16932111
Basically you just got screwed by the ura dora. Nothing to see here.

>Riichi with 3-sided wait
>Shimocha decides to declare 2 kans
>Toimen then declares a kan
>Get an ankan
>Don't want to call it because still have a good chance of winning
>Deal it and end up ronning into kamicha's yakuhai nomi hand
>Check the wall for the rinshan tile
>It was toimen's wait for yakuhai dora 3
Just can't win in this kusoge. Even when you sort of dodge a bullet it's still infuriating
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>16931645

Somehow nobody noticed that 4p passed, making 7p suji. Since you already cut 4s I assume you're 100% bailing, so go with that.

>Very close to ranking up
>4th on last 2 games

Thanks.

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>>16932329
I hate when that happens

>>16932314
Somehow nobody noticed that 3s passed, making 6s suji.

>>16932560
Except no 9s passed did they?

>>16932560
If a 3 passed but neither a 6 or 9 passed that's not suji, it's just half suji which was already noted >>16931982

>>16931645
you have shit options anyway, keep attacking with 9m

>>16932111
7p was suji like >>16932314 stated and the obviously the best choice. While playing defensively you should always pay attention to other players discards and immediately search for suji or kabe created for tiles in your hands, not just when it's your turn or you won't have enough time.

>>16932926
If he wouldn't have the 7p I'd agree with this. The hand is 2-shanten but has many uke-ire and potential for pinfu, tanayao sanshoku as dealer. Since he has a suji tile however, defending is better.

>>16907819
>Foreigners are usually not permitted to enter such buildings
You're making things up. There are no buildings in Japan that are off-limits to foreigners (aside from the shops that declare "Japanese only"; but not only are those almost impossible to encounter, I also haven't seen a single jansou with that written on it).
Like >>16907863 said, Shibuton is basically a classic place now for the tiny community of foreigners that go to Japan and play mahjong there. Osamuko documented many other jansou that contributors went to. Even some guy here on /jp/ was making a tour of random places last year.

does anyone want to play tonight? I'm up for the next hour or two.

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You thought it was over?

>>16937403
but it is

That game was way more tense than it should have been. Thanks for playing. Nice to play again with you, Trundle! It has been years. Sorry for pulling a Saki on you.

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>>16893509
>this fucking hand

wew lad

>>16937772
Chinitsu-nomi makes me feel dirty

>>16937772
He's waiting for 1, 4, 3 and 6 right? My mind gets full of fuck when looking at one suit hands.

>>16937772
Truly a beautiful hand.

>>16938571
You forgot 5 and 9,
he's waiting on 1,3,4,5,6 and 9. Only 2,7 and 8 wouldn't complete the hand.

new in mahjong pls don't judge T_T i only know mahjong by watching saki and read a lot of wiki.
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017042918gm-0041-0000-5626f0f2&tw=1

>>16938671
What are you posting the replay for? Want advice?

>>16938682
more or less yes

>>16938682
also this was my first match after those cruel AI from gamedesign mahjong game and feeling that i am ready to take on tenhou.

>>16938688
>>16938690
Okay, I'll look over it.

>>16938688
>>16938690
E1:
You should've discarded the W instead of 3m and 2p. middle tiles are useful early in the hand, because they can easily form sequences. W is pretty much useless.
You also could've called that red dragon. Your hand looks kinda fast with that 2 side waits and the pair of 5p and would have at least 2 han.
Why did you ignore the red dragon but then called the 5p? There's no point in doing so.
On step 6 you should again discard W over 4s. And IF (which is not a good idea) you'd want to discard a number tile it should be 4m, not 4s. 4s can form a sequence with 6s if you draw 5s. 4m is useless, because 67m can already form a sequence by drawing 5m.
Same again after that, all the middle tiles you discarded were far more usefull than the W, which lead to you having a very good sequence (34567s) in your discard pile that could've been on your hand.

E2:
You could've kept the 4m and dicard the red dragon on step 5. If you drew a 5m you'd have a very useful sequence with 45678m.

E2-2:
I would've defened when the guy across you called riichi. Your hand was still 2 tiles awaya from tenpai, so attacking was very dangerous.
Again you could've kept 3s instead of N for the chance of getting a 34567 sequence. Plus N was the safer discard.


E2-3:
Discard N over 7m, 1s, 8m.
That riichi was pretty risky, you only had 2 tiles left to win and your hand likely only had 2 han (including riichi). Since you were in the lead, you should've rather defended.

E2-4:
Again you should've defended against the riichi. Your hand didn't look that good and since you had a very comfortable lead there was no point taking any risks.
Why did you start calling here, you didn't havy a yaku?


E3:
Discard W over 9s,7p,4p and especially 3s (by drawing 4s you'd have a sequence). I get that you were playing for honitsu, which by itself wasn't a bad idea with that hand, but considering your lead you should try to win as quickly as possible.
At least on the last turn you should've defended. There were only 2 tiles left in the wall, so it was very unlikely that you could even get to tenpai with your hand.

E4:
Discard 2m instead of 6s. A shape like 5667 is useful, because you can interpret it as two side waits: 56 and 67.
Discard 2m over 1p. By keeping 1p you'd have the chance to get into tenpai drawing 3p. 2m on the other hand doesn't help at all.

>>16938571
You can think of it as:

1234 555 678 999 waiting on 14

or 123 456 55 789 99 waiting on 59

or 123 45 55 678 999 waiting on 36

In short, it's a monstrous wait and I'd have called riichi in an instant. Because let's be honest, you're not gonna fold with that hand anyway, not on east 1.

So, who are the highest rated /jp/ players? By R or Dan. I know I've seen a couple of 7th dan >1900R in 7447 but no idea if they actually post here.

>>16939352
Pretty sure starman is Houou but doesn't post here. He's the highest 7447 player by far.

We have a few 5 dan 1850-1900 players here but no one that's actually good. Doragan, bk202, and Corak are some of the highest that are regulars here. KyuuAA used to be in that group but he's been tanking hard.

>>16939981
>We have a few 5 dan 1850-1900 players here but no one that's actually good.
Are you saying that at 1850-1900 R you're not yet good, or that those players in particular aren't good for some reason?

>>16939981
>We have a few 5 dan 1850-1900 players here but no one that's actually good. Doragan, bk202, and Corak are some of the highest that are regulars here. KyuuAA used to be in that group but he's been tanking hard.

you are making me blush you know

>>16940160
no, he is saying that those player are the regular here, not commenting on ability. I would also count Muller, 6dan and over 2000R, and Waza, even if they aren't posting for a while.
Keep in mind that there like 4/5 western players Houho, 7dan over 2000R, in total right now, so it's not that bad

>>16940195
>no, he is saying that those player are the regular here, not commenting on ability.
How is
>but no one that's actually good.
not commenting on ability?

>>16940220
I missed that one line, you are right. I guess for good players then he means over 2000, so only Muller should be considered as such in his eyes

oh well, whatever

>>16940220
>>16940230
If we figure that a normal jansou is largely Tokujou level then we have a handful of people that could hold their own, but none of the regulars would be considered good at one.

I'm a regular here but every time I swing by 7447 it's a ghost town. PST is awful for there.

The upside is that I have access to a jansou

>>16940318
I've never experienced the jansou. But I'd imagine, jansou style play is significantly different than Tenhou style.

>>16940573
Depends on who you play. Some folks are pretty chill while others play at breakneck speeds.

The big difference vs tenhou is you can take as much time as needed when deciding what to toss. However, you need to know ahead of time if you want to call since no one will stop. You might also feel pressured to play faster than normal if the other players are going faster than you.

Another thing to consider is that unlike tenhou, your waits and points won't be conveniently calculated for you

>>16940600
If you don't know how to calculate scores the jansou staff will make a note and keep an eye out for you.

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>Deal in
>It's just a riichi
>3 Ura dora

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>>>/a/156522515
It's finally over.

>>16940699
I wonder what's left to show in the next couple of chapters.

tomorrow I'm playing IRLjong for the first time and I don't have the faintest clue of how to count fu and calculate score for things below mangan no matter how much I stare at the table

HELP

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>South 4
>Misread my hand
>Riichi into 2 other riichi
>The fuck?
>Only option is discarding dora
Ok, that's all for today then.

>>16941547
20 for pin fu tsumo only
30 in most hands
40 for closed ron without pin fu, open hand with a non terminal kan, and most non-tanyao toitoi.

Anything else is messier.

>>16941547
use an app on your phone

>>16941707
What app? When I search mahjong all I get are solitaire games

>>16941812
mahjong.onevis.net

>>16941820
thank you

What's so scary about fast mode?

>>16942656
Wanna find out?

>1:0

>>16942661
No I am talking about the 4 people who decided to play hanchan on normal mode. Who needs 15 seconds to think?

>3:0

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>>16941547
Isn't the answer to just make sure every hand is mangan and above?
I fail to see the issue here.

>>16940573
The most real difference is that you have to do so many things on top of the table, even with some helps from autotable. It's quite shocking the first time you play there, makes you appreciate Tenhou or Sega MJ a bit.

>>16942667
Most people who are not Houou level. I see so many beginners mistakes even in tokujou everyday.

>>16940600
>>16943208
By Jansou style vs Tenhou style. I'm referring to game play strategy and tactics. Tenhou emphasizes avoided 4th and even avoiding 3rd at the higher levels.

I've heard in Jansou. People are gunning for 1st.

>>16945342
Maybe, yeah. It depends on the house rule, but when money is involved, usually the best strategy is to aim big. Some parlors even have rewards for luck-based stuffs (ippatsu, kan, rinshan, etc).

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Well, at least the potential was there

>>16947044
Menzen fanpai Dora 7 ura dora rinshan sanbaiman
and an ippatsu to yakuman

It's nice to think about what sort of hand you could have had sadly, talk about "potential" is all hot air.

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So an ippan player, a joukyuu player and a tokujou player save a guy's life. That guy turns out to be Tsunoda, the owner of Tenhou. He tells the three guys to ask for one favor each, and he'll comply.

The tokujou player tells Tsunoda "Make me a Houou player!".
Tsunoda says "Sure, I just need to edit these database files here, and there you go. 7d R2000".

The joukyuu player says "I want to be a Houou player too!"
Tsunoda complies and makes him 7d R2000. Finally,

Tsunoda asks the ippan player "So, what do you want? Wanna be in houou?"

"No. Demote these two guys back to 9 kyu."

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I just had a stark realization: my luck always goes to shit if I've been with a woman recently.
Could this be some kind of curse? If so, how does that explain lesbians? Is there something I can do to ward off the bad vibes?

>>16947332
Had a hearty laugh. Good job anon.

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>>16947646
>I've been with a woman recently.
Do you really expect anyone to believe your story?

>>16947646
What's the name of this fat bitch from your pic?

>>16947646
>if I've been with a woman recently.

Post replays or I won't believe you.

>>16947044
Why didn't you call riichi?
So far your hand is only fanpai + dora 4 = mangan, which is not enough to climb to 3rd place on a ron from anyone but kamicha.
With riichi it would be guaranteed haneman when winning with fanpai and even with 6p it could be enough with ippatsu or ura dora.

>>16948892
Probably because he can't afford a riichi stick.

>>16949029
Oh true, didn't realize that.

So why does tenhou sometimes refuse to respond to clicking on a tile and just count down the timer until eventually (but before the timer runs out) playing the furthest tile to the right?

My guess is that it's a connection hiccup and then processing my clicking on the tile as a double click on nothing for some reason when it catches up, but does anyone know for sure?

And has anyone else lost a game to this?

>>16951385
I've been playing for many years and I never encountered that problem.

>>16951537
It's happened to me like twice in the last month. So not like all the time, but sometimes.

I have a shitty internet connection, so that's often the source of "well it works fine for me" issues, but it's been good enough not to actually disconnect me in a way where I have to reload the page either of the times this happened. Like in the course of the game, not just at that moment.

Once more a new months starts. Once more I find myself the only one not getting absolute bullshit hands.

It must be some kind of curse.

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3:0

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thanks shimocha

>>16957620
Nagashit isn't real anyways

>>16957879
He had dropped a 7m. I imagine he's thanking him for putting him in first place.

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>>16957879
i actually got that earlier in the same game

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017050307gm-0041-0000-d064d405&tw=3&ts=5

>>16957925
yeah, i wasn't sure how i was going to take first with those draws but it ended up working out

>>16893509
I was playing sega mahjon on single player and I don't know what it means when I get a yellow tile

>>16963825
dora

>>16963880
ahh shit okay thanks

2:0

3:0

Still 3:0 ;_;

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>declare riichi early, decent ryanmen wait
>Simocha declares riichi 3turns later
>Toimen and kamicha start calling like crazy
>Defense is completely ignored
>Despite this, no one deals in
>Final turn, I toss 8pin
>Double ron'd into 6k range

You know, if this sort of bullshit didn't happen EVERY FUCKING GAME I'd laugh it off. There's some fucking curse that's following me that makes these very unlikely events constantly happen. This is beyond "I'm just going to try my luck with this risky tile" it's dama haneman on the 4th turn once per game. No amount of defense theory or riichi judgement can account for this RIDICULOUS tilt.

>>16968384
You have never made an unlucky discard unless you have managed to cause sanchahou

>>16968728
I have. I'll take an arbortive draw over dealing into a dealer baiman in E1, which just happened.

I'm quitting tenhou, I can't take this shit anymore

I

>>16968931
Get good.

>>16968931
See you tomorrow.

>>16969220
Fuck... You're right...

There's got to be a way out of this

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Spill your blood. Make a deal with the devil.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6SRhBr9u44

>mahjong school

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>>16973646
>I do not know many of the details of riichi mahjong

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>Lost 50R the last couple months
Demotion seems inevitable at this point

>>16974288
How much does R tend to change in the higher ranks?

>>16974400
Once you hit the soft cap it's pretty standard assuming you aren't ridiculously overranked for the room.

Win: Gain 5-7
2nd: Gain 1-3
3rd: Lose 1-3
4th: Lose 5-7

Since everyone in Tokujou is already 1800+, the differences aren't as drastic as they are in Joukyuu where you can have a 1200 facing a 2000.

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Where was this mentioned? I never heard of this.

>>16975567
Someone mentioned that was just a translation gone horribly wrong. I don't remember anything about lamenting a lost ability, either.
From what I've heard, what Toki really said is that she was a third-rate player until she got her ability.
Kansai-ben can be a bitch.

>>16931645
5sou. It's half suji and he discarded 2 lower souzu that form a kanchan wait before riichi so he most probably doesn't need the souzu around these tiles.
Every other tile is at least slightly more dangerous than this one.

>>16969331
Wouldn't the devil be a sanshoku doukou of 6s? That sounds like a fun but mostly useless lesbian power.

>>16976103
Plural 6 not just 6 sou.

2:0

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>>16975567
>>16975585
Yeah, it's probably this scene.

T 「Sorry... I may not be able to live up to your expectations.」
R 「Why? You're on a whole different level of strength compared to before your hospital stay.」
T 「My actual skill is still the same as the time when I was on the third team.」
S 「What do you mean?」
T 「You might not believe me. I collapsed and wandered on the border between live and death. Ever since I came back, I am able to see [one turn ahead].」

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>>16976285

「Sorry Everyone...」
「In the end I'm still the same as when I was on the third team and looked up to you two.」

三軍 (which I rendered as "third team") is literally the kanji for 3 and army and apparently confused some poor translator.

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>KyuuAA/Corak matchup in round 1

>>16976935
Never mind. Looks like they got around to randomizing it.

>>16976935
Is there a tournament I'm not aware of?

http://tenhou.net/0/?C88273377

https://forums.mahjong.guide/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6

Looks full now.

Well that was an absolute disaster.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017050704gm-0009-18827-9fb64108&tw=1

THIS FUCKING GAME

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Extreme mahjong gave me the may sickness. I'd rather have 2nd and 3rd place than this.

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>>16978043
Wanna switch?

Since some guys are posting, come play
>1:4

>>16978063
But you get into 4th place too. 2nd and 3rd place is not as harsh when it comes to points as 1st and 4th place.

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This is lame.

>>16978199
I wouldn't disconnect if I could

>>16978225
Welp shit happens I guess.

>>16978233
My worst disconnects have been having the tsumo button appear right in front of me then disconnecting and another time where I reconnected to see I had drawn the tile I needed to avoid last and then disconnecting again

>Others hit ippatsumos when I'm dealer both times
>My only tsumo is after 8 draws with a 3 sided wait
Some of those games you just have to hold on to third.

My R is going to shit.

>>16977696
>having to continue after dealing into a yakuman in E1
That's brutal.
My god what a ride. Tourney looks fun, surprised it wasn't shilled here like last time. Unless I just missed it. Wish I could plan my schedule better so I could actually participate one day.

>>16978748
Anyone who dealt the chun on that E1 deserved to get destroyed.

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>>16978423
>0+0+3+1
It's getting worse

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>>16978199
My most recent game.

>>16980045
Waste of time. Just quit and Tenhou nullifies it.

>>16978748
Tournament is every 2 weeks. So, there's always next time.

>>16980189
Next one is set more for European time. Will be early morning for even east coast burgers.

I need more magical sand

https://mainichi.jp/articles/20170506/dyo/00m/200/017000c

Interview with the chief editor for Akagi.

>>16981620
Holy shit, Akagi is actually ending.
And he has really been fighting Washizu for the last 20 years?

>>16981772

>>16940699

>>16982545
What was the final score anyways?

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>>16940699

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I have no idea how I did this.

>>16984152
Washizu: 104,800
Akagi: 65,800

Washizu dies right before he can pon to end South 4.

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>>16985209

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>>16985209
see
>>16984412
He's not dead

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tfw almost 500 games but still a yakuman virgin

>>16986435
I got a shousuushii on my very first tenhou game

>>16986435
I've still only got the one which was a Daisangen. I got tenpai with Ryuuiisou twice though but dealt in on both.

>>16986435
You just need to go for kokushi sometimes. Eventually you will hit one. I actually didn't get my first Daisangen until my 9th yakuman.

Daisuushi, tsuiisou and kazoe yakuman here.

What I really want is a live one

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Glad not to be on the receiving end for a change

>>16987111
If only you tsumo'd that. But sucks for kamicha. He deserved it.

Does the lobby care about rank?
I used to play a ton on /a/ and /jp/ more than a year ago ans had a decent rank too but I lost my account and would have to be a newbie again.

>>16988427
Nobody cares as long as you're not NoName.

>>16988427
7447? No, all kinds of ranks go through there. From NoNames to a Tenhoui.

>>16988740
>>16988738
Yeah, I figured. I just kind of hope that people won't play differently if they assume I'm new.

>>16988751
Plenty of people play differently in 7447, but not because of the rank you're going up against. At least for me, it's the lobby to have fun and not worry about how well you place.

>>16988751
It would be a serious mistake to assume a player is bad/inexperienced based only on tenhou rank.

>>16988740
Was that a figure of speech or do we actually have a resident Tenhoui?

>>16988848
I think it was last year, a tenhoui showed up. I don't think he stayed for more than a day or two, I don't remember very well.

Is the guy that got the double yakuman from a while ago still here?

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get in nerds

>2:0
Guys it's tile.

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>>16988860
What double yakuman?

>>16990235
Oh wait , it was triple yakuman.
http://arcturus.su/wiki/Multiple_yakuman/Replays

>>16990685
Nevermind, it was only double.
I'm being stupid.
It was mrZen.

Just had a game with a 1Kyuu that had R881. I've only played for a few months but that's the lowest I've ever seen. How did he manage to get that low?

>>16992242
Talent obviously

>>16992242
probably a yakuman/nagashi hunter

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>>16990711
Oh this?

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Maintain tenpai or increase ure-kire?

>>16992524
I see nothing there that would make me want to change the hand. You still have an 8s for a 3 sided wait, or a 5s/6s which get you to a ryanmen. Why on earth would you break tenpai there?

>>16992544
And that's before some of the more interesting waits such as if you hit 2/4/7s for shanpon with a terminal 9p that is pretty likely to come out, especially this early.

>>16992555
>>16992544
Hmm you're right. Being able to upgrade the 24567s with 5s or 8s didn't occur to me.

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>>16893509
>Lesbian edition
How good would these two be at the lesbian mahjong?

3.0

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Fuck this month.

>>16992524
increase ukeire

you're in the lead, it's s4, and your current tenpai doesn't mean shit. you can chi any of your tiles and get to a ryanmen shape which is more important when nobody will fold. all of your souzu tenpai upgrades will result in you cutting the 2s anyway.

>>16996683
Seriously. It's fucking ridiculous how many weird/early haneman hands I've dealt into this week. Complete garbage luck on my draws too. I haven't sniffed an ura Dora in forever....

>>16996941
Reduce the number of times you deal in. Of course, y'still have to score a few hands.

>>16996941
Hope that someone keeps calling kan. That might also create a bigger upset when you still have 0 ura-dora.

2:0

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>>16996683
Eh, could be worse I guess.

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Do you guys own a set of Mahjong tiles?
Where did you buy them from?

>>17003446
Bought mine in a swap meet in Kyoto.

I imagine most folks here got theirs online

>>17003446
I own 2, 1 bought on Amazon the other from Aliexpress

Now Amazonjp sells them oversea too, you can buy one there

>>17003446
Bought one when traveling Osaka.
Only used about 5 times, counting fu without sheet is suffering.

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Yay I'm not a yakuman virgin anymore.

>>17006627
That's a harder yakuman than it seems. Suuankou, Kokushi, and Daisangen are the relatively easy ones.

>no safe tiles
>just flail around my mouse to pick at random
>deal in and lose
every time

I want Houou to leave. Sure was nice of him to hand me first once he gave up in S4.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017051213gm-0029-0000-4dc6024e&tw=1

>>17006722
There are always more or less safe tiles.

>>17008170
*more and less

>>17006634
>Suuankou, Kokushi, and Daisangen
Yea, these three are easy as fuck.

>>16992524
Maintain tenpai and stay dama.
They're most probably trying to make a fast hand to escape last place anyway and even if they have a big hand you'll still be 2nd unless you deal into it.
Obviously the best outcome is if you win and keep the 1st place so you should make a fast hand. Since you're already tenpai there's no point to drop it even if the wait is bad.
Well that's what I think.

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Ah it's been so long, I lost my account and stopped playing. Let's have a game /jp/?

1:0

>>16992544
>>17011924
This. No 3s has been played, meaning you have 4 outs to win the game. Having 4 outs with a hand that isn't complete garbage in terms of value is already pretty ok, even if it's not oorasu. And here you can win with those 4 outs plus it's early in the round plus there are multiple options to improve the wait anyway. There is absolutely no reason to change this hand here, it's a fantatsic position to be in.

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Speaking of yakuman, got my first one yesterday against AI between lessons

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>Riichi on S4
>2 others riichi right behind you the same round

>>17014274
How good is the tenhou AI? Is there any data on that?

4+1+5+2
Average placement is garbage but it's all about cutting as many of those 4ths as possible. 4 of those 5 I was last at South 2 or later.

>>17015364
The computer opponents on Tenhou just draw and discard.

>>17015966
Oh that's a letwdown. Guess it's just meant for training tile efficiency then?

If I make a discord for mahjong would it be ok to post here or would the mods/posters sperg out?

>>17017536
There's already a mahjong discord.

>>17017588
Link plz?

>>17017624
https://discord.gg/JWh6Nj

>>17014274
Now do it against humans.

>>17014274
I have 2 of the one where you collect one of every end tile against people, feels good desu

>>17017588
What do people do in the mahjong discord?
I don't want people to see me join the room then just leave forever.

>>17019081
There are alot of people but its pretty relaxed, just chattting about mahjing and sharing some screencaps of games from what ive seen so far

>>17019081
Discord, unlike IRC, doesn't show who's been joining and leaving. Not like anyone ever cares when it happens on IRC though.

>>17014274
>riiching a hand that is guaranteed to be worth at least 24k points.
>when it's not even a suji trap
Don't do this against real players.

>>17017588
When did this happen? I thought most of us used #t/a/noshii.

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Fuck this, I quit.

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>>17019081
I remember I left when some SJW mod was complaining for a whole day about young anime girls or something ridiculous.

>>17020314
That seems 100% logical anon.

>>17019081
I was worried about the same thing but I slipped in with no worries. Long as you don't have a name that moves you ti the top nobody can notice, there's that many people.

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>>17020299
We've all had months like that. I think March was particularly bad for a ton of people here.

As long as you are watching your replays and learning, you can get ahead. It might be a good idea to take a week off to calm down and refocus.

>>17020314
That Trollofnova person is an idiot

>>17020693
Anyone who uses a frog avatar shouldn't be a mod under any circumstances.

>>17020794
4chan loves pepe though

>>17020891
Frogposting is bannable on /a/ and /jp/ and has been for a while.

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>>17020299
>>17020652
Shit, I actually got a break for once.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2017051504gm-0029-0000-34f35a18&tw=3

I was feeling like I was folding too much in the early game but then I looked at the replay and saw shit like this on every other hand. Good thing I folded. And thanks to the shimocha for letting me win.

1:0

send help

I don't get the weird probability when it comes to dealing into unlikely hands. I get that once in a while you're going to deal into a dama dealer mangan on the fourth discard, but why does these events tend to cluster around a few sets of games? It almost makes you believe in magic and shit

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Barely holding on to third, again. How the fuck make up R and rank when these idiots deal into obvious dealer mangan?

First game a 2050 7 dan and a 2080 5 dan, second game a 2105 5 dan. 4th place avoidance is such an annoying way to play.