I'm curious, do any /jp/ers go on Futaba or 2ch? If so,

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>do you notice any difference between the cultures and posting styles of Futaba and 4chan?
You don't even have to understand Japanese Futaba to know that it's very different from this garbage site.
Three main things:
-Site culture, not board cultures garbage
-No misquoting bullshit
-The random and main board, may, it's actually the best board, unlike 4chan's infamous /b/.

>>16688277
>You don't even have to understand Japanese Futaba to know that it's very different from this garbage site.
Yikes.
You don't even have to understand Japanese to know that Futaba it's very different from this garbage site.

>>16688277
Can you tell me what the japanese think of recent 2hu games?

>>16688277
>Site culture, not board cultures garbage

So in Futaba, the people that visit the soccer board and the Touhou board are the same?

>>16688706
yeah

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>>16688683
>Can you tell me what the japanese think of recent 2hu games?
What kind of stupid question is that?
Can you tell me whar the Americans think of the recent Touhou games?
Of course you can't, people are individuals, not a goddamn herd.
>>16688706
Yes.
There are in board jokes like the Marisa edits on /40/ but it's not like they push this stuff to the limit and start forcing it on every goddamn board like here.

i can say that there is no difference between 2ch and 4chan (its even better here as here is more users desu)

>>1668886
Sorry, the way I wrote that post was definitely wrong, but maybe there's a general idea or group of ideas. Im not going to take the general idea seriously it probably isn't even that different, but it would be nice to know some opinions.

>>16688862
It's not that stupid of a question. Of course individuals have their own opinions but in most places a general consensus can and will form....

>>16689281
No, it's just the loud idiots will make casual passerbys think there is a consensus.

>>16689223
I don't think more users is a good think

>>16689223
>desu
The unmistakable mark of the Underage.

>>16688207
All three are basically dead, anyway.

>>16688277
>>16688862
>>16689300
Good posts

>>16688277
There is nothing wrong with board culture

>>16689504
well here you dont have to wait for the answer so much

>>16690758
I suppose it's human nature to want what we don't/can't have, but I could wait half a day or so for a decent reply instead of receiving an immediate copy-pasted shitpost.

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Can any futaba meme expert please explain how Oyari became associated with earthquakes?

>>16690157
There is when it's like on 4chan.
>>16690758
And yet here you can talk about just a fraction of what you can talk on Futaba.
That should tell you everything.

question: what the fuck does "board culture" even mean?

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>>16691740
The way people post, browse and shit on a (image) board.
You can call it posting style or whatever you want, it doesn't really matter.

>>16688207

Imagine if every board on 4chan was tinted from the perspective of /a/. It's sort of like that.

toshiaki are much nicer and more layback than 4chan and jar people for sure.
nanashi are worse than 4chan guys. There are some good normal people but there are so many passive-aggressive fucks and people who are plain evil.It's funny in a way

>>16691914
whoops,meant laid-back

>>16688207
The only difference I noticed is that they blocked my IP from posting.

>>16688277

>-The random and main board, may, it's actually the best board

Best board? That's なりきり actually

Why is it that Japanese are capable of having nsfw boards but not have them be 100% porn all day every day?

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>>16688862
>people are individuals, not a goddamn herd
Therefore everybody single person has, at least to some extent, a distinctly different opinion? No? Then perhaps you should review your claim. This isn't a strawman, this is the implication of your claim.

A clearly defined and distinct opinion doesn't just form in somebody's mind out of thin air. The formation of an opinion requires thought and evaluation, a process which not everybody goes or even deems necessary. Most people will hold a vague opinion and develop it not by thinking about it, but rather by accepting whatever other vague opinions of those around them remotely correspond with their own, and those people will do the same. You now have a herd of people who hold the same vague opinion which isn't clearly defined. These people don't even know their own opinions; their views are reactive in a way. They won't be able to explain their opinion actively, clearly, however are more than able to do so once somebody else in this herd spouts their vague train of thought, then they are able to say whether or not they agree, re-actively. They could also claim agree with a clear and distinct opinion, but they don't actually agree because they haven't evaluated and verified it themselves. You could call this a common consensus, but I would rather call it a herd because nobody has taken the time to verify their opinion.

Going through the process of formulating a, to some extent, clear and distinct opinion is what I expect most intelligent people who have some sort of interest in the subject of the opinion to do. I said to some extent, because coming up with a clear and distinct opinion requires one not to hold any contradictory views, which requires a very great amount of contemplation and reasoning. Very, very few people are capable of this, be it because doing so is very time consuming or perhaps the person does not possess adequate reasoning capabilities. Regardless, very few people, if none at all, can say to have a clear and distinct opinion on anything. By clear and distinct, I should clarify, I mean a opinion which is not contradictory and one that they has an appropriate level of detail which would result in it being distinct from other opinions. Two people can hold the same identical distinct opinion and it will be accepted that those opinions are their own so long as they themselves evaluated them wholly. It might even be the case that one person has explained wholly his clear and distinct opinion to another, and the other evaluated and verified it fully and reached the conclusion that he wholly agrees. Without such evaluation, the person is not holding his own opinion; it is the opinion of the person who had explained it to him.

Most people don't "finalise" their opinions. They don't clearly evaluate and verify them, entirely. Humans are prone to take the shortcut of holding a vague opinion and simply accepting developments to it, be it through contemplation or discussion, without verification. Even intelligent people are disposed to take shortcuts, and while their opinion may have been clear and distinct to a some great extent, with some contradiction or without adequate detail, their disposition to develop their opinion without verification results in the same herd consensus as described in the first paragraph. I wouldn't call this a herd though, because these people have clear opinions that have been tainted by vague agreements with the herd. This I would call common consensus, and I am willing to accept those opinions which were mostly verified. This applies to people who hold similar opinions, by the way.

Now, to apply this to imageboard users. People who browse /jp/ have an interest in touhou. They have an opinion on the recent touhou games. Some of those people fall right into the herd, and some people have to some extent verified their opinions. Those with somewhat verified opinions have a disposition to agree and disagree without evaluation. You now have a group of people who agree with each other, and a group of people who disagree with that group, and another group which disagrees with groups X, Y and Z, and group F disagrees with A, B, C etc. There are probably less camps but you get the idea. These different camps each have their own views, and the biggest camp is the common consensus of the board. If two camps exists and are of equal size, then there is no common consensus, I agree, but the opinions of the people are not derived individually. There is always some herd mentality going on, and to a high degree in most circles.

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>>16699347
All that text just to tell me that you believe that a somewhat ''general'' consesus regarding the the last Touhou games among the users of /jp/ can reached.
But I'm curious on how you would determine the general consesus among the people here.
How would you measure what's the biggest camp, or how big the various camps are at all, on an anonymous board?
And putting /jp/ aside and going back to the point that I orginally made and you quoted, how would you determine the ''general'' consesus among the Japanese players (or even only the/ 40/ and /55/ Futaba users) and the Ameircan players?
You already know the answer: you can't and there's also not point in trying to do so.

>>16688277
>-Site culture, not board cultures garbage
>-No misquoting bullshit

I can tell that you neither browse nijiura nor understand Japanese if you actually believe either of these

>>16699347
I hope you're the exception to the rule, because it would be pretty bad if the world had more goddamn autists like yourself.

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>>16701108
You accuse me of being a liar and a poser without actually proving it?
You're quite cheap.

>>16699347
Is this the legendary opinion otaku

>>16689300
You are one of those annoying people who like to argue for the sake of argument.

>>16701291
It's like you don't even know where you are right now.

>>16688706
yes and no. one of the best things about futaba, something that probably could have saved 4chan, was its willingness to put its /b/ equivalent on a new subdomain, and leave the old one up for people who had it bookmarked, every time the newfag/oldfag shit got too unbearable. so there's very distinct cultural and even implementation gaps between boards.

on the other hand, the general type of people who post are more apt to be interested in multiple boards and adapt cultural tics that work, unlike 4chan where the casuals from /a/, high levels from here, mansluts from /soc/, chads from /fit/, and skinheads from /pol/ have basically nothing to do with each other.

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>>16700747
>all that text just to tell me that you believe that a somewhat ''general'' consesus regarding the the last Touhou games among the users of /jp/ can reached.
All that arrogance when you missed the point. What I elaborately explained was that your assertion that people are individuals was wrong, and therefore your implied conclusion that it cannot be known what the Japanese think of X does not follow. You should've seen that the /jp/ case was analogous with any other group, but perhaps it was my mistake to expect so much of you. I will spell it out once more.

>and putting /jp/ aside and going back to the point that I orginally made and you quoted, how would you determine the ''general'' consesus among the Japanese players (or even only the/ 40/ and /55/ Futaba users)
Why do you assume a difference between /jp/ and futaba?
You find a group of people, you observe their discussion and take note of their opinions, see which general opinion is most prevalent and that's your general consensus. Camp sizes aren't measured quantitatively. You don't have to take a survey to know that the majority of /jp/ are of the opinion that Western media shouldn't be discussed here. This is obvious to anyone who has been here for a day, and I don't see why anonymity seems relevant to you. Even when there is no clear general consensus, you can say that X group thinks this, Y group thinks this, Z group thinks this etc. You observe enough discussion on /40/ and the various general opinions will become apparent. There doesn't even need to be a general consensus among the Japanese; so long as there are groups my point stands. Your argument is there is no consensus to begin with. Do you not see how stupid you sound?

>>16703350
>that Western media shouldn't be discussed here.

Define "western media". You can certainly talk about western media in a Japanese/otaku context.

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>>16703415
Irrelevant.

>>16703350
I'm gonna be honest, I don't have the will or strenght to discuss with you.
You write too much and you're seriously writing wall of texts over a single phrase.
You need to be succint when you write your arguments on a forum.

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>>16703889
Not my fault that you have the attention span and reasoning capacity of a 6 year old. I'm sorry that I want you to clearly understand my line of argument.

You're right though, next time I'll just give you a witty two line vague response and call you a faggot. I'm sure you'll be able to appreciate that sort of discussion.

>>16704071
There is a middle road between writing three paragraphs about something that could be summed up with much less bloat and /v/-tier posting.
But I guess that if you were actually writing something that people bothered to read then there was the risk of someone calling what you wrote mere platitudes about the base line of cognitive economy, which they actually are.

>>16704071
>I'm sorry that I want you to clearly understand my line of argument.
What line of thought?
Try being concise and stop writing fucking books of autism here.

>>16704071
smart people will only say exactly as many words as necessary to get their idea across, imitations will fluff their sentences to absurdity, as you have done

an idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity

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>>16704109
The witty two sentence response. Sasuga /jp/.

>>16704147
Anon says that there is no consensus among people because we are individuals who hold distinct opinions. This means that everybody has a distinct opinion. This isn't true because [shortened version of >>16699347 ], therefore there must be some consensus.

Maybe a lot of it was unnecessary, but I feel like I have to spell everything out to anybody stupid enough to believe this. And I also feel like that isn't clear enough and will result in irrelevant counter arguments and stupid requests for clarification.

>>16704298
Kant is infamous for not being concise in his works.

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I just wanted to have a thread about Futaba

>>16704401
>kant
>genius
pseud absolutely identified. I bet you like hegel too you total phenomenologist knob-gobbler. you continental dick-swisher.

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>>16704451
>I bet you like hegel too you total phenomenologist knob-gobbler. you continental dick-swisher.
I thought I was in /jp/.

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Now that I think about it this isn't the first time that this autism macho goes into an autism spree.
You need to stop flipping out just because you read a few sentences you don't agree with otherwise you would never work here or in the outside world.
>>16704405
You wanted the Futaba thread, you get the Kisume guy.

>>16704401
Kisume sux

>>16707657
I would collect fairies if given the opportunity

>>16707823
I would kill myself given the opportunity

>>16705726

You're really salty about some guy proving you wrong using more than a paragraph huh

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>>16704405
You wanted a futaba thread, you get a guy making retarded claims.

>>16705726
I read a few sentences made by a self-righteous clown and decided to explain why he was wrong. I believe this is called engaging a discussion. But I see that you neither will to pursue the discussion further nor have anything meaningful to say to me, so I won't bother replying anymore.

>>16704451
Hume wasn't very concise either. And Kant was a genius, though this is off-topic.

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>>16707683
no u

>>16688277
>Site culture, not board cultures garbage
>No misquoting bullshit
Your autistic rage against misquotes is an issue that is solely /jp/ board culture. You are a dumb fuck, just thought I'd let you know.

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Oh hey. 2ch is refferenced in gundam-ref manga