Let's talk about Touhou 15.5 What are your expectations

At-least it's not another /e/ thread.

>>16648902
Shit tier.

Everyone in ULIL but with half the storylines and a pair of new characters.

It'll make people actually view ULIL as halfway decent with how shit this will be.

Twilight Frontier's trying to clone Capcom's character switching mechanic they're going to utterly fuck it up and it'll probably this time have straight up DRM in it.

Of course the REAL version will be on the SONY PLAYSTATION 4 in a year or two at AAA game price and idiots will eat it up.

>>16648902
>What are your expectations for it?
That Tasofro will unfuck themselves and fix their netcode. Oh wait you said expectations, not hopes.
>What characters do you think will join the roster?
If there's no Sanae again I'm going to fucking.

It'll most likely be Junko, Wriggle, Yuuka and the "strongest duo", the 2 newhus.

>>16648902
Is that his wife?

>>16649882
That can't be ZUN's wife. His wife is Mamizou.

>>16648922
I hope Anon's wrong but this is almost exactly my assessment.

Of course, my chief gripe is this:
>Of course the REAL version will be on the SONY PLAYSTATION 4 in a year or two at AAA game price and idiots will eat it up.
This is how you alienate your core audience.

>>16648902
>Let's talk about Touhou 15.5

Let's not.

>>16649988
>your core audience
You mean the people who download the game for free? Oh no! Wouldn't want them to stop playing!

>>16649988
>This is how you alienate your core audience.
Well, thank god that you whiny pirating fuckers are not part of it.

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My only fear in relation to PS4 is that it'll become big like the JoJo fighting game and bring a bunch JoJo-fan tier westerners. The Touhou fanbase in the west is already bad enough.

But on the flip side, it would also mean more legitimately purchased games, and more money in ZUN's pockets as it wouldn't be pirating >>16650093 >>16650136. Maybe if it were really successful, we start to see western distributions, and further help ZUN out a bit

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>>16650093
>>16650136
No, fampei. I buy my games.

But paying $30 is different from paying $60 for a game. That's all I'm saying.

>>16650136
>>16650093
Go back there.

>>16650278
It's not like the console players who bought the port on day 1 got buttfucked the worst out of the whole deal. I literally fail to fathom any reason to shot oneself in the foot by announcing a fighting game sequel 3 days after releasing the prior game, on a different platform to boot.

Speaking of which... Any guesses why there's no news about AoCF whatsoever since the announcement?

>>16650545
>Any guesses why there's no news about AoCF whatsoever since the announcement?

It's because Tasofro is working really hard to make sure the game is fun to play and perfectly balanced.

Yeah right.

>>16650262
>My only fear in relation to PS4 is that it'll become big like the JoJo fighting game and bring a bunch JoJo-fan tier westerners. The Touhou fanbase in the west is already bad enough.
That will absolutely never happen.

Jojo was kind of always secretly waiting to explode, it just never really got the chance in America because 1) faggot Americans need animes and hate readin mangas 2) regardless, America never even got Jojo beyond part 3 because Araki got mad about them changing the sound effects

But, muscular fabulous crazy powered nonsense was always a recipe for success. No wonder it got in the Louvre. Touhou, though, is simply too impenetrable for most, PS4 or no.

>>16650607

a nice thought

>>16650720
What were the new modes anyway?

ULiL PS4 really didn't add much. Pretty much only a loss if you REALLY like Reisen (and Unknown X)

When Mima?

>>16650822
never

>>16649891
I've read that aya's look was inspired from zun's wife, guess he had done such a good job he ended up turning his wife into aya.

>>16651122
I think you're mixing up information here.

When Aya was a relatively new character people joked around that she was ZUN's wife because she was in a lot of games and ZUN's floral shirts and hats looked like her clothing.

The Touhou that is said to be based on ZUN's wife is Mamizou.

No, wait a damn moment.
According to some posters here saying that people who don't pay shit have no right to complain is a proof of being a /v/ermin?
Seriously now? Not the opposite?

In my opinion ZUN is free to do whatever the hell he wants with his series BUT people should be able to comlain about his choices obviously.
When I see people by the way I'm specifically talkung about the Japanese players (and the other dozen of players in the rest of the world) who buy his games, not the other players who have never ever supported in the series.

>>16648902
It'll be HM/ULiL but with tag combat. Can't say I'm too hyped, the aerial combat fighting games just don't feel as good as the ground combat fighting games to me. Hopefully it has a Soku-sized roster at least.

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>>16650673
Well, that's reassuring at least


I doubt we will ever get Touhou going all the way to console, I can only imagine Danmaku games playing like ass on any kind of gampad

>>16651531
I would quite honestly buy his games if it weren't for the hassle, in fact I twice did try to import, both times my game got "lost in transit" and I had to make many phonecalls and wait many weeks to get back my money for the shipping costs. I won't be trying a third time.

The abundance of illogical arguments in this thread is unbecoming of the jay. What the hell is going on here?

>>16651993
It's almost as if -I dare not speak it's name- that accursed board for graphical recreational interfaces was here.

ITT people believing ZUN cares about the opinions of...
...gamers
...in the west
...from a Vietnamese spring roll puppeteer forum
...who pirate
...or buy

lamo ayying, the guy has done pretty much whatever the fuck he wants from day 1 till now. Piretes bitching won't stop that, piretes not bitching won't stop it either. Also since when did this become a platform for moralists, this isn't fucking Starwars, "no pay, no say". Ya right, like that ever stopped anyone from bitching. Take a stroll into the real world fucking flowers, everyone bitches about everything, always have done, always will do. Case in point: this entire fucking thread.

>>16652044
Why do you type like that?

>>16652044
Wow, you must be very jaded.

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Damn you, you guy. You can play PS4 games in a PC just as good as you can PC-98 games. (aka you can't, you need an emulator because the programs simply cannot be run natively)

Oh well, I guess it really wasn't necessary to have all that since the second paragraph of >>16651531 encompasses the truth of the matter just fine.

>>16652071
No, I simply wasn't mollycoddled until age 25. Nothing jaded about being real. Or do you honestly believe western players of touhou bitching have any sort of influence on ZUN? Do you believe that anybody could tell, let alone care, if the bitching was coming from pirates or legitimate buyers? Do you believe any of the arguing in this thread is going to stop pirates from bitching about their downloads in the future? Since you probably don't believe any of those things, you basically agree with me and in fact proving my point further by simply picking an argument for the sake of it.

Everyone bitches, especially in this place, and specifically on this board. The stupidity of bitching on moral grounds about bitching is really astounding.

>>16652117
>mollycoddled
You sure?

Thread about zun turning into incoherent autistic arguing, it is my favorite episode, everytime it gets a rerun a bit of me departs and goes to heaven.

>>16652147
>>16652027
Rather than whining, there's a box you can check and a button you can push that opens up a form that lets you send a notification that certain shitty posts should be removed to preserve /jp/'s quality.

Claiming that somebody needs to earn the privilege of bitching about something is cancer. Complaining is more if an inalienable right.

>>16652184
I, too, subscriber to the "report all the posts you don't like" and "ban all autistic arguments" school of moderation.

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Now what might this be

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>>16652356
ZUN書き下ろし! 最新の東方公式書籍が登場

東方Projectの作者ZUN氏自らが書き下ろした書籍が5年ぶりに刊行!
幻想郷を騒がせる天狗、射命丸文が今度は週刊誌を作った!?
一体どんな記事が掲載されるのか? そもそも取材は行ったのか? 誰がスクープされてしまうのか……!
人間、妖怪、その他諸々全てを巻き込まんとする、ユーモアとエスプリと刺激に満ちた全東方ファン必読の一冊。

>>16652356
what

>>16652396
It's Bohemian Archive 2: Electric Boogaloo

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https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20471.msg1320131.html#new
>http://tohonetwork.doorblog.jp/archives/69388870.html
>* TH15.5 is a tag team battle game.
>* Release schedule and plans are well established.
>* Including Udonge, all characters from ULiL are back. 20-people class.
>* Aside from new characters, we'll dig deep into the current characters.
>* The 2-people 1-team system greatly affects the story.
>* The keyword "obsession" is very important.
>* ZUN says this time it's an aesthetic system.
>(Obsession means to deeply adore this world.
>Does that mean that the story is addictively amazing?)
>* More news to come before this year's Reitaisai.

>>16652396
>>16652405
Looking forward to the Junko article

>>16652398
ZUN writing down! The latest Touhou Project official book appeared

Author of the Toho Project Mr. ZUN's books he wrote down
Published for the first time in five years!

Tengu making noise in Gensokyo, Shameimari Aya made a weekly magazine this time!
Just what kind of articles will be published? Did she even bother to do any investigation first? Who will be scooped ......!
For humans, youkai, and all others, this book overflowing with humor, esprit and stimulus is one all Touhou fans must read.

Ever since they installed whatever their neural network magic is, Google Translate has gotten really good. Other than substituting proper nouns I could have left it alone completely.

>>16652454
I've noticed as well. I was a bit astounded when using it through VNR yesterday.

>>16652356
So

東方文果真報

Touhou Bunraku, apparently

Like Touhou Bunkacou

>>16651924
I exclusively play the danmakus of a game pad and prefer it that way. So, no its actually pretty nice of gamepad, you should try it yourself.

>>16652462
It's extremely likely to be Touhou Bunka Shinpou.
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,20631.msg1322701.html#msg1322701

MIMA WILL BE IN TOUHOU 15.5

>>16652412
So, we're getting Reisen and 5 more characters.
Really interested about the "digging deep into current characters", I don't want them to be around just to be recycled.

>>16653374
Bunka Chinpo?

Why is there a new fighting game so often nowadays? Feels like yesterday and forever ago since LoLK

>>16655407
ULiL and LoLK released around the same time, LoLK a bit later. ZUN has been focusing a lot on books, manga, and such so maybe that's why he hasn't made a new game yet. Tasofro basically does all the heavy lifting for these games, tho, so I could understand that choice.

>>16648922
I'm personally hoping for a Touhou collection for the PS4.

>>16653393
It's just osteoperosis, anon.

>>16655846
Unlikely. ZUN said he doesn't want to deal with consoles on his own, let alone port his old games.

>>16655407
Zun's becoming more and more lazy so shill out this to that shit tier company.

>>16656747
>Zun's becoming more and more lazy
ZUN has two kids to raise, a wife and three mangas to write.

>>16656747
I wouldn't call him lazy when he's trying to put a new game out every 2 years

Right lets move past this silly nonsense and maybe talk about the game. So do you think the pairings are going to be random like in ULiL's extra mode and if so will the switch timings also be random as well?

>>16661034
>So do you think the pairings are going to be random like in ULiL's extra mode
Yes.
>and if so will the switch timings also be random as well?
Hopefully fucking not. That sounds like it'd be as annoying as possible.

pls let okuu be in it

>>16663384
She was a bit too overpowered in hisoutensoku and rightfully so, seeing her power, so i think it would be incoherent, with the power she is said to have, to have her in but nerfed, and it would be too game-breaking to have her in without any nerf.

>>16663403
She's overpowered in low level games. She gets her ass kicked in high level games. Tiers change a lot depending on the skill of the players.

>>16663403
But Raymoo is supposed to be an extremely powerful youkai exterminator and she is shit in hiso. I think the characters should all be about the same in terms of balance, despite their canon powerlevels, and the 'kuu is a great character with fun moves

>>16663518
In fact i think that her power in hisoutensoku is incoherent with her effective power to the point where certain characters are almost a direct upgrade to her. Those 2 types of power should be concealed while also keeping them balanced within the game, which is something difficult to achieve with a character like okuu

>>16663650
Stuff like this is easily handwaved though. Throw a line in one of the post-fight quotes suggesting that Satori asked Okuu not to go overboard and kill anyone while she was on the surface. Bam, done.

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>>16648902
>What are your expectations for it?

They already guaranteed that it's going to be garbage when they confirmed they're keeping the god-fucking-awful Smash ball system. The rest of it is pretty irrelevant.

Clownpiece is virtually guaranteed to be in it, I'd think. The characters really don't matter when the gameplay is AIDS though.

>>16663403
>She was a bit too overpowered in hisoutensoku

Lolwut

Okuu is an established low-mid tier character in Soku.

>>16663699
I meant in terms of damage output. Obviously she becomes generally weak with her mobility and ability to counter the opponent in a close fight. It's like giving stephen hawking an ak-47.

>>16648902
Given that the game focuses on pairs of fighters, the final boss is obviously Mima and Shinki.

>>16663735
If they're in the game they are probably gonna come in as hidden characters that just aren't playable at first, like remilia and yuyuko in IaMP.

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>>16663694
There's 5 new characters so I bet on
Yuuka
Clownpiece
2 New characters
Mima

>>16663694
I don't think I can ever understand the vitriolic hate people have for these games.

I only thought of HM as bad. Then again, I don't like fighting games.

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>>16665296
Alternatively
Rin
Shou
Piece
+2 New

>>16663694
>when they confirmed they're keeping the god-fucking-awful Smash ball system.
Except they never did that.

Why do Sokufags have to fucking lie?

>>16665296
I would be okay with this.

>>16656135
Sounds like he needs to hire a team of ZUNderes.

>>16665296
The final boss will be two characters? I guess that makes sense.

>>16648902
Nue.
Fluffy Ellen
Nazrin
VIVIT
Nue


NO FUCKING ELECTROSHIT MUSIC

>>16648902
I WANT Seija, Sagume, and Clownpiece.

We'll probably get two new characters due to the pair gimmick, but I want Yuuka too.

I don't know what to expect except a fairly likely Clownpiece.

Broken game controls.

Rehashed characters to the point where people start complaining about the religious heads more than the characters from the first three Windows games.

I have no hopes for the roster whatsoever.

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>>16667502
>fluffy Ellen

My man

>>16667502
Do we know who's doing the music? Akiyama Uni again?

>>16650673

You are really underestimating it. Remember fucking ponies?

It could become crazy popular. We'll see.

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>>16663694

I hope playable clownslut will do to her what it dit to Koishi.

Specifically mountains of porn.

>>16668239
As if there isn't enough already of nearly every Touhou character ever anyway. One trip to pixiv will show you that there's already plenty.

>>16668182
I don't believe I am. MLP is 1) an old franchise and 2) one of the few good/decent cartoons to come out in like a decade

The idiots who still watch cartoons and read comic books have very low bars. For Touhou to become CRAZY popular in the West...I don't know what it needs, nor do I really want to know. The main series will probably never be popular though. STGs are too difficult/

Imagine all the fine young touhou cosplayers ZUN gets to bang.

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>>16668934
I see it.

>>16668851
The difference is well drawn porn

>>16665296
>Yuuka

I wish

>>16670204
What would be her reason, though? It already seemed kinda forced in PoFV, can't see what they even could come up with for her to be in the game, even though there are already characters like nitori in HM that have no apparent reason to be there anyway.

>>16672895
Antinomy of common FLOWERS?

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>>16672895
>What would be her reason, though?
>Antinomy of Common Flowers

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>>16672940
What if it's only a way to pander/delude to yuuka fans, though?

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I'm here to fap to that girl and her hot Aya's cosplay in the pic.

What's the thread about?

>>16672966
Anti-soku, "buy the fucking game" patricians, and Clownpiece.

>>16672972
Clownpussy is very fappeable.

Anybody know where else I can find the most recent(preferably)patch for 14.5? The official site claims it's busy and won't let me download.

>>16672960
I bet the cover silhouette will even look like Mima again!

>>16672940
Ten Desires was about spirits and didn't have Mima.

Hopeless Masquerade was about the various religions and didn't have Sanae (or any of the Moriya crew for that matter).

Urban Legend in Limbo was about the outside world and didn't have Sanae (for some FUCKING reason) or Raiko (the only other modern 2hu with a connection to the outside) or Nue (a fucking urban legend).

Don't get your hopes up.

>>16674239
I hope DDC gets more representation in the next game.

>>16649857
You mean Clownpiece, not Junko. She's more convenient for this role and has a manga now.
Also I wouldn't be so sure to make a connection between a game's concept and characters that seem thematically fitting for it. There was like two times when it was plausible for Zun to bring Mima back but no.

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>>16674239
>Ten Desires was about spirits and didn't have Mima.
What do you mean, she was right there.

>>16674820
That's what happens when you have a superiority complex and lose it, you become a stage 4 mid boss.

>>16674973
5

>>16674973
>>16674979
But you get the best doujin series there is. And then...KanColle happens.

>>16674755
No, I mean Junko. Clownpiece is going to be saved for GFW 2.

>>16674735
Sekibanki would be a great addition.

>>16674239
ZUN isn't too keen on reusing characters, if I recall correctly, so that's why Sanae wasn't in HM or ULiL. Reisen only reappears in the PS4 version of ULiL purely for the relation to LoLK.

Sanae's appeared in every mainline bullet hell since her debut with the exception of DDC (and even then, they gave an explanation for her absence there in WaHH), so I wouldn't really complain, anyway.

>>16675363
My point is that using the title and overall plot to determine which characters will get in is dumb.

Most probably Clownpiece or Junko, I personally want Orin, Youmu again, Yuuka, Kanako or Shou.

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No one hoping for S-tier (soku) perfect maid to join the ranks, im disappointed /jp/.

>>16686637
I want this.

>>16686637
1) I hate Sakuya.
2) She already appeared in the first series of fighters. Sure, so did Reisen, but Reisen's being pushed lately due to moon shit.

>>16686637
Fuck off, the only character from Soku that deserves a spot in the new fighting games is Sanae. Otherwise it should all be characters who never got a playable role before.

>Reisen
Yeah she can fuck off too. It really should have been Seiran or Ringo.

>>16688184
Sanae is shit dude.

Any new facts or just speculation?

>>16688184
Why would a shitty blazblue clone be in another bad fighter?

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>>16652412
Did someone mention tag team battle.
> reviving Imperishable Night pair mode or copy gameplay from other famous title (KOF and etc)

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>>16686637
"your ass must be this large to be playable"
<<<<<

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I just want Parsee playable in some way. Any game would be fine at this point.

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>>16689178
raymoo are all about armpit not ass

>>16667502
>Fluffy Ellen
>VIVIT
>NO FUCKING ELECTROSHIT MUSIC
my dude

>>16675363
Care if I ask for the explanation?

>>16690028
Why the hell Parsse would want to fight with other Touhous? She is the bridgekeeper of the Underworld, waiting for her lover o come back.

>>16692763
15.5 sounds like it has a setting where anyone could suddenly be brought into a fight at any time.

See: Mokou

>>16692763
She's jealous of the 2hus who are already in the fighting games.

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>>16686637
Fuck off. EOSD is the last cast that needs representation.

>>16648902
>drinking beer from a plastic cup
disgusting

>>16694880
Who are you quoting?

http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv292564759

ZUN's on this stream atm
Think anything about any new games are gonna get announced here?

>>16695252
No. It's a music-oriented talk event he was invited to with Beatmario and A-One members.

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what's my wife doing in a picture with that dude?

>>16696086
cosplaying as aya, are you blind

>>16696101
Is that a 2hu thing? Never got into it.

Gameplay needs to be like extreme versus

>>16667502
>Fluffy Ellen
>a copyright character from some forgotten manga
anon, do you want to sue ZUN?

>>16686637
I want yumeko, not that mememaid

>>16672934
>>16672940
>long lasting winter
>letty is the first boss

>a shitton of divine spirit
>yuyuko is now first boss

be realistic, possible that yuuka will appear but never ever as the final boss