Comiket 91 games thread. Good haul today. Which do I upload

>>16330337
I have some interest in the stick shmup (みらくるくるん). Did you see Infinos? Also looking forward to that magical witch girl roguelike.

>>16330337
ジラフとアンニカ onegai oniichan.

>>16330363
Somewhat nevermind, I just realized Infinos is a trial and that the roguelike (A Magical High School Girl) is being released on Steam.

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>>16330337
Tell me about that Iku game

>>16330337
Please tell me you have the Touhou Labyrinth 2 Plus Disk.

Are of any of those actually good?

>>16330337
Add ありふらたホシ as well please.

Yes please upload all the shmup you have

>>16330399
this

>>16330337
Anything with (good) pixel art?

>>16330337
Got any good rpgs?

>>16330337
ありふれたホシの終末期。

>>16332737
seconded

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I missed CyberForce yesterday, hook me up. Want any of mine in return?

>>16330337
Do Cambria Sword

hi all.
Please can you upload shmup games?

>>16334101
I don't recognize some of those on name alone, what is the bottom game and the two on top of Soul Saber 2?

>>16330399
OP pls respond

>>16334412
時止電殻
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29259236
たわーおふぇんす！
http://www.daisessen.com/
幻想郷泰戦～星蓮の章～
http://under-the-gun.jp/taisen/

>>16334908
>時止電殻
That one looks pretty cool.

Is it possible to get 時止電殻 and NonetSympathia? Maybe the AkashicForce demo as well.

>>16335222
I'm the poster you're replying to but I am not >>16334101 unfortunately.

>>16334706
OP here.

Sorry it's been a very busy couple days with comiket. I will try to get stuff up soon. I have a few more I forgot to take pics of as well. If anyone else has games too, join in. There were some sold out stuff unfortunately I didn't get to as I arrived 45 mins after it opened.

>>16334101
The Queens of Battlers II very please.

Uploading Cambria Sword and みらくるくるん shortly.

>>16335802
Alright, will be my first rip after day 3 & new year's clubbing shit. I'm gonna guess OP won't be ripping until about this time, too. Don't worry, I'll get through them all eventually

>>16336623
Yeah, I'll be mostly going through all this after comiket and NYE. I've put up a couple.

Cambria Sword: https://mega.nz/#F!h8IywSBT!NJydXzKfTxrusqkQNmEeIQ

みらくるくるん: https://mega.nz/#F!okwDwYZT!32nWSrqErvbJyw3K4oEoTg

Hope these work. If I messed up, I'll get to it tomorrow.

>>16336766
Thanks dude, they both seem to work. Mirakukurun is ver 0.95 after updating but I guess that seems to be the full version? Just seems like an odd ver number for a full release.

>>16334101
-> >>16332469
Same question to you, though not asking you to rip anything.

>>16330337
Yakouga 08 by Akiragoya/artesneit, please.

I'm also curious, did he sell his previous works, like, Yakouga 7, there?

>>16334101
Kind sir, been wanting to try play Soul Saber series and the queen of battlers. Would you be so kind as to upload them for us plebeians?

>>16336766
Thank you so much. Happy New Year!

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>>16337012

The updater is locking up on me. Any ideas?

>>16337408
Just give it time. All of desunoya's games seem to take forever to update.

>>16337627
Cool, thanks.

>>16337627
>>16337640
Because they're downloading trojan dolphins.
I warned you guys. RIP in peace in pieces

>>16337775
Uh-oh. Should've asked Derek for the go-ahead.

>>16337408
If you're getting a Directx error, the Readme has a link to the directx you need to dl.

>>16338689
Thanks, man. I got it sorted. I was just being impatient. It took a minute but the updater ended up working no problems.

>>16338696
How do you like it so far?

>>16339534
Oh, I like it a lot. The undersea aesthetic is very peaceful and soothing while the gameplay is a nice trot, nothing too difficult, but immensely rewarding and pretty.

I'm a child of the 2D age to begin with so this art style is like home to me.

サクナ Sakuna

https://youtu.be/D8NLc-5qde8

>>16336766
Thank you for the Kururin you handsome anon

>>16330337
I wonder if anyone got their hand on that Tenshi game? I heard it's pretty decent.

>>16336766
>Cambria Sword
You handsome beast I love you!

>>16330337
>>16335489
Did you buy that Reimu plant-vs-zombie lookalike game, if you did please share it anon because that's the one I'm looking forward the most.

>>16347721
The other buyfag here - think I have the game you're talking about, it was just a 100 or 200yen download code, it's a C91 trial version.

>>16335802
as promised - Queen of Battlers 2. Check circle website for patches etc.
http://leme.me/verah/games/qob2.7z

>>16337316
soulsaber 2
http://leme.me/verah/games/ss2.7z

I'm both a linuxfag and too busy with othershit to offer any kind of support with running these, hope the rips are alright, re-host before linking elsewhere please.

>>16347881
Nice. Glad someone else went around and picked up stuff. Other anon here, there'll be more put up today now that all is settling down.

Labyrinth of Touhou 2 Plus Disk?

>>16347881
Tested both, they work fine.

>>16330337
Pang! EX onegai

I'm searching for Artesneit or Siter Skain circle stg release? someone has it or other shoot themup pls?

Arifurta Final Phase: https://mega.nz/#F!85oxUS4Z!vMzFxW7a_bEJm6jLlaud5A

Phantom Sol: https://mega.nz/#F!UoAkVZDD!IUsX6j3pyiC9UrIBmZgeZA

IKUSAAAAAAAN!!!: https://mega.nz/#F!lgg0nLzK!YUECDcAPcIySgmR-AG4_dA

Steel Striker (Demonstration): https://mega.nz/#F!AhAgyLxC!7qUj5RalhrnfkAvryPbBWg

Chaos World: https://mega.nz/#F!AoAkFCAA!PMXI2BVJL6A8_-SGAD7B0Q

Toho Legion: https://mega.nz/#F!5wADFIgK!Uw-c9sAsRVcDvS7hIgkYYg

Happy new year. More to come.

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>>16348641
>Steel Striker
Thanks brah, I bought their c90 demo, can't wait to see what progress they made.

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>>16348641
You're a good guy mate!
Happy new year!

>>16347881
>>16348016
Any word on how to get Queen of Battlers running? It gets a Startup Failed error whenever I try to run the executable

>>16348641
>arifureta
this game seems to be free download anyways
does the disk have anything extra?

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>>16348641
This Iku game is great

Anyone have Sakuna and/or impressions of it? Seemed like the game that looked the most fun to me.

>>16351848
is it even out yet or was it a demo

Got a few more coming later.

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>>16352763
Do you have Touhou Labyrinth 2's Plus Disc?

That one is in high demand.

>>16352774
I do not, sorry. This is the rest of my games:

Lost Future Omega: https://mega.nz/#F!R84hGQJD!1c7CJeO0qXZUIdXUDj7DPA

カンソク者: https://mega.nz/#F!Zp5AXD7C!tw_Y2BtzhEj2Vf-cIPOMFw

Yakouga 08: https://mega.nz/#F!xlxjARxC!gph2zM3wf45uePJi1gfH-g

風の吹く丘で体験版+α: https://mega.nz/#F!9xxAGAAA!O-8MR1jA4HT3l_0TnCO0vw (Not working for me, but I'm putting it up incase it's just my shit travel set up)

Pang EX: https://mega.nz/#F!thhzTTxb!lLcFYIqnDKaMOjI82sg5SQ

Hope other anon comes in and fills the gaps with his games.

>>16353555
Thanks a ton for sharing all these

>>16340710
>サクナ
Anyone got this, looks like some sort of rune factory clone.

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Someone, please tell me someone got "永遠消失の幻想郷 The Disappearance Of Gensokyo".

>>16353555
Cheers m8!

>>16348641
The Iku game doesn't read my keyboard inputs when on the start screen, and I can't find any config file, is there any way around this?

>>16354233
>>16351818
Is it a shmup?

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>>16354117
That game and the Labyrinth Plus Disc are the 2 games I am waiting for as well.

>>16354245
Yeah

>>16354233
Nevermind, press "any button" means press fucking "s" for some reason.

Will there ever be a doujinshi belt scrolling action game?

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Holy shit the Iku game is great.

If you love flashy credit munching danmaku this is the game for you.
The visual and music direction are fantastic, I recommend playing of full screen for the best experience.

>>16354379
Final Fuck

Looking at the game preview video, there was an expansion(?) to Cambria Sword. Did anyone get that, or is that what was uploaded?

>>16353738
its a platformer and those are minigames. I dont think its out yet, maybe a demo only

>>16354379
Belt scrolling is not a real genre you nerd

>>16350912
Did ya try installing the runtime shit it suggests on the circle website?

>>16353555
>Hope other anon comes in and fills the gaps with his games.
Yeah about time I did that. BTW you still haven't upped Cyber Force?

http://under-the-gun.jp/taisen/
http://leme.me/verah/games/utg-taisen.7z

Steam Rumble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1f3kV6g-dU
http://leme.me/verah/games/steam-rumble.7z

時止電殻
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29259236
http://leme.me/verah/games/3dact1.7z

AskashicForce C91 Trial
http://leme.me/verah/games/akashicforce-c91-trial.zip

NonetConcertoDistortion (this one is a few years old)
http://leme.me/verah/games/NonetConcertoDistortion.7z

NonetSympathia (new)
http://leme.me/verah/games/NonetSympathia.7z

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Any kind soul willing to reupload these two games for me?

>those jewel cases
My god, it's like looking at someone's PS1 collection again.

>>16356847
>Yeah about time I did that. BTW you still haven't upped Cyber Force?

Sorry I totally missed it somehow. Here it is. I also upped a poker game I picked up.

Reinforcement Poker: https://mega.nz/#F!hwR1ALIB!PUndQzSokbAJ_crQkQLmnQ

Cyberforce: https://mega.nz/#F!ckAWET6L!N0y4NIfKDeX6XRzQqjShGg

Is there an archive of past comiket games?

>>16361955
No, go look on doujinstyle or something.

>>16361997
Site seems dead. They only got one game for c90:　http://www.doujinstyle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16244

>>16362262
There were only like 3 games uploaded for c90. Steel Striker, that one, and some other mech game.

Just go to the front page and browse games.

>>16362276
I remember Pang was uploaded. Or was that C89?

>>16362975
That was c88
http://www.doujinstyle.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=14286

>>16347881
Thanks, Arthur.

>>16362276
I'm still surprised nobody uploaded Witch Ring Meister since it's such a great looking game.
Thankfully I managed to find it off some Chinese website.

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>>16363523
>I'm still surprised nobody uploaded Witch Ring Meister
>I managed to find it
So, what, are you not uploading it out of spite?

>>16363636
I'm afraid it's filled with Chinese trojans and I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I were to spread them.

>>16363641
sandboxie.

>>16363696
Here you go then
https://mega.nz/#!dlNSTArB!RR4EVRZ80x_LJuOGRojuNSCF9vfDlO5YivDGvFOLWTQ

Was the magic naming system ever done before?

>>16364380
Yes. Rudra no Hihou, although I haven't played the doujin game in question, I played Rudra and it was pretty fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGUvMCUnOoE

>>16364414
Thanks for this. It's an interesting but curiously underused mechanic.

>>16340710
Nice.

Started playing Fairy Bloom Freesia recently, I was wondering if they would make an improved beat em up like how Astebreed was a better Ether Vapor.

>>16364462
The problem is that while making Dickbutt and Weeaboo spells is fun, MahaAgiDyne and FusRohDah are more effective since they're made out of words the devs intentionally put in to have some basis for the system. So you'll either combine the ones you're told into effective spells or figure out the system and only use XaaaCi because it does 99999 damage to everything and then heals you or whatever.

>>16364380
>>16364462
Also which game was the naming one? I'll look for it in the games and play it next, assuming it was uploaded in this thread.

Are any of these the catgirl game, btw? The one here.
http://edelweiss.skr.jp/info/c91pv/c91pv_main.html?start=214

>>16364518
魔法の女子高生

>>16364518
>>16364531
that one is on steam since some months ago.

>>16364518
>>16364531
>>16365727

I think he means this
http://www.giraffeandannika.com/
And it looks like there's a dl link on the official site.

>>16365881
he mentions 2 games, the "naming one" and the "catgirl game"
naming one we can only assume he means the spell naming mystery dungeon clone
and catgirl one is what you said

>>16365881
It says you need to buy some card to get a password for the file.

>>16365927
The naming one I meant is >>16364531, correct. I found it in the preview video since they were showing it off again this time. However, it doesn't seem to have been uploaded this time. >>16365727 also screw steam but that may mean there's a download somewhere.

>>16366462
>also screw steam but that may mean there's a download somewhere.
here
https://mega.nz/#!OU0FRRja!rq3VdRl4ylgE9TQhEElEf2SC_vK6P6bvjY-4zREJWWk
cant vouch for the source though.

>>16366462
you just need a pixiv account

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BlackBastard uploaded v.4 of Ghost9Solid demo they put out at C91.

http://wahiko94.at-ninja.jp/

They'll keep the link up until the 11th.

I suppose this means the full version will be out by C92 (although I was kind of hoping Hekatoncheir would have been done first)

When is the next Reitaisai?

I missed Comiket about 5 days, so I atleast want to get myself a haul of stuff at Reitaisai.

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>>16366499
Thanks.

Found this spell in the dungeon. Makes a shield but it blinds you.
It also makes me want to enter song titles now

>>16356847

Anyone wanna try reuploading NonetSympathia?

The other games work for me but not this

Majority of the files reduce to 0 bytes when extracted

>>16330337
http://www.melonbooks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=IT0000192607
Anyone got this?

>>16366665
rar needs a password

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>>16368577
Keep getting redirected to this
Do I need a VPN instead?

>>16370937
oh. well damn. i didn't actually try downloading it.

>>16371420
I had something similar until I tried just now. I think they only offer so many downloads so you gotta wait for the Elevens to go to sleep.

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Touhou Labyrinth 2 Plus Disc will never be uploaded.

>>16370748
>>16373005
Does anyone know if the Plus Disc requires you to already own the base version or if it is its own thing? I was thinking of maybe buying it off Melonbooks but if it's just a patch or whatever for the base game then I probably wont bother.

>>16373221
You need the main game.

Even if you could somehow launch it on it's own, just entering the plus disc content actually requires you to have beaten the main game and the fully powered form of the final boss already.

>>16370679
Thanks for letting me know, I'll try and rip it again.

>>16370679
It installed for me but I got some direct x error.

>>16337307
I'd love to know this too, I've been looking for Yakouga 7 for a while now.

Setting the controls for iku-san is confusing, they keep switching themselves or refusing to change. Also don't know how to use continues.

>>16376888
I can't pass tutorial, cause i don't know what to press.

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>>16376930
I pressed random buttons and got past it, but it's best to turn the tutorial off in the options. Then I made it to stage 2 and game overed.

>>16376930
>>16376888
Esc key both gets through tutorial and uses continues. I think you still have to hit buttons for the tutorial though, just turned it off instead.

Hi
thanks for all the games
I'm searching for Yakouga 6 if someone can upload it ;)

Still nothing on Sakuna?

Why so many games this comiket? Is there usually this much ??

>>16379241
A lot of them uploaded in this are from older era - Touhou Legion is C81, for example, and Chaos World is from the 1990s iirc. Some are actually trial version of the game as well.

Winter usually have less stuff when compared with summer. Here we have kind anons who are uploading stuffs, as opposed to other comikets.

Thanks goes out to the kind anons.

>>16379241
No one uploaded last time so more people were probably willing to buy games themselves.

As far are games in general, there's been this many for a while, although a lot of games from this are also from summer.

>>16379344
I feel Steel Striker has been in trial for a while now

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Surprised nobody has uploaded it yet.
Here's the plus disk: https://mega.nz/#!V4NjjQpQ!IJ5Ma-T6tQbgcA05dWAddla3flWjp_4scO0NDHTWX8o

>>16383025
Finally, many thanks.

>>16383025
Thanks for the upload.

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>>16383025
Thank you, Anon.

Let's see how long it takes in this expansion before people just use cheat engine to level up.

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>>16383025
I had a save file that had completed everything in the Plus Disc demo, which includes getting Futo and Shou. Now I load up the full game and I have to battle Futo and Shou again because the game reset that progress.

Everything else stayed the same.

>>16379344

OP here. I'll likely get to C92 if there is anything in particular anyone would want me to get to upload. I mostly picked up games that would interest me.

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>>16383130
Never mind, I just accidentally used one of my backups. Everything works fine with the stuff Anon uploaded.

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>>16383025
Thank you much anon~
You're a life saver and somebody to respect~

Thank god, the new floors in the expansion actually have a different background and music again.

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>>16383025
You saved my day, anon.

>>16383162
Where can I dl the game itself not the expansion

>>16385230
http://www.moriyashrine.org/labyrinth-of-touhou-2.html

No clue if the links still work but that's the first place I can think of that might still have it,

>>16355462
I cant seem to actually play the game.

How do i even play PangEX? Theres no .exe in this folder

>>16388350
I believe it's an expansion, meaning you'll need the base game too.

>>16389504
Alright that makes sense. Thanks

No one has Disappearance of Gensokyo?

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Touhou Labyrinth 2 Plus Disc already had some patches released fixing the usual stuff that could have been fixed pre-release but didn't.

http://www.geocities.jp/aaa_3peso/THL2P/download.html

Does anyone have a working copy of double focus - aya and momiji bullet coverage travelogue? Both mega links I found were dead and I lost this game in a HD crash

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Here is a funny thing:

Not only does this battle use Eiki's art from Touhou Labyrinth 1 while Komachi has new art, Komachi's big debuff spell actually buffs you.

Quality game.

>>16402774
You're using Hina, isn't that why you're getting a buff instead?

>>16403195
Hina died really early in the fight due to instant death bullshit and it still happened. I think it's legit just buggy

>>16402774
>Eiki's art from Touhou Labyrinth 1 while Komachi has new art
Komachi didn't have a bossfight, so there was no art to re-use. All the LoT1 character bossfights had their art reused, as I recall.

>>16403466
Most of them have new art. Usually more round and slightly chibi than the old art. Yuuka is the only other character who has her old art for some reason.

>>16402774
A few of the shadow boss fights just seemed rushed. That one and the sealing club were strangely very easy. I hope the future patches will fix the boss fights. There's just too much wasted potential with some of these.

Is all LoT2 Plus Disk content only accessible after you beat the main game? I guess it's time to stop being lazy so I can finish it then, maybe by then translations will already be accessible if I'm slow enough.

>>16404394
Other than a few balance changes, yeah. Kogasa got buffed, and Byakuren and gamblers got nerfed. Probably a few other things, but for the most part, the plus disk doesn't matter until post-game.

>>16404457
Did they nerf the diva subclass?

>>16404515
I played a little of the plus disk, and diva Aya could still cheese fights by lowering everyone's action bars.

>>16404529
Hmm, figured they would've addressed that somehow.

It's probably fine though, I only personally used it on bosses I was farming anyway.

>>16355948
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrolling#Video_games

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The new demo was a lot better that I expected. Did anyone else finish it?

Gameplay-wise:
-You start with decent stats, so to having to waste time gold farming.
-You start with a decent weapon, and double jump
-Not all weapons have a fixed breaking point.
-The Scroll system (bestowing yourself of your weapons with upgrades) like the weapon repair ability or giving a weapon the Psycho Dagger property (stealth attacks on humanoid enemies are instant-kill).
-The bosses range from a bit awkward to pretty good.
-The Virus point meter has been replaced with food meter (when non zero it restores HP) (I think it's replacement may be plot related)

Story-wise:
-The game brings the overarching loop-world concept to the forefront where Ayumu and Chan discuss (and no mind trip this time) how they can break the loop and Nine System's motives. (Was kind of surprised to see that Nine Senior survived the torture from Ghost94, I know it's 'another world' but still)
-Scheming between Darth Grandpa the Iron Successors
-The twist ending

I wish someone had uploaded the C90 demo since I believe that had a good chunk of story to it as well. including stuff like the return of the Cannibal King, and Isuzugawa/Ghost discovering the truth about the world/loop-world and loosing her shit

I'm looking forward to the finished game.

https://a.pomf.cat/oveuzd.webm

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Talk about dickish level design. Reimu is stuck here.

Going back sends her sliding into an arrow that moves her right back to this space. No choice but to leave the dungeon.

>>16408198
Save often in the ice areas. I got a soft-lock where I couldn't open the menu or anything.

>>16354117
>>16391456
Here is DoT but it requires making an account and CD key, just leaving this here if anyone is up for it

https://mega.nz/#!BVEmRBZT!liquOUKBtcVzt1yZgd1qJQth6ZXmbACmLMfKCqJQC4k

>>16387840
>moriyashrine
that website is ran by a literal autist

>>16409345
If you rejected everything that autists were part of you couldn't play any of the translated Touhou games.

You take their bandwidth and give back nothing so you don't even have to feel bad about rewarding it.

>>16409357
The site is hosted on weebly

>>16409221
Thanks m8, it's better than nothing.

still waiting warmly for ジラフとアンニカ

>>16383025
this guy is a gentleman and a scholar

>>16409221
>chink doujin game
>cdkey

oh gee wouldve thought

>>16408198
Is anyone else having trouble with slowdown? I tried playing yesterday and it was fine, but after getting the patch the game slows down to 30 fps in the dungeon. I tried renaming img4.dxa and using the pre-patch exe but couldn't get rid of it. Dungeon effects seem to have nothing to do with it.

>>16412450
There seems to be a common bug that causes the game to lock at 30 fps for no reason. I have it as well, even in the base game. Sometimes it runs at 60 fps and then it just slows down for no reason.

Of course there is no solution for this and even searching on google gives no results.

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>>16413610
Pic related

Just look at that FPS.

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Kasen is still fair and balanced. This is even turned down to the challenge level the game wants you to have.

>>16414853
So Kasen is that good?

>>16414934
Kasen is only balanced by the fact that she runs out of MP fast and recovers them slowly. Everything else about her is so good that there is never any reason not to have her in your group.

>>16415026
Nice. Is that just in LoT 2 or 1 as well? I don't know shit about these games and I just downloaded them.

Anyone else that's really good?

>>16414934
You get her after wiping a few times so I guess this is the creator's way to tell you that you suck at this game.

By the way, did the Plus disc fix some bugs? There were quite a few that broke some skills (any by that, even some girls).

>>16413610
If it goes from exactly 60 fps to exactly 30 fps, it sounds like at some point 2 things in the rendering thread want to wait for vsync, so the game ends up waiting for vsync twice each frame, cutting fps in half. Yay for spaghetti code.

You might try forcing vsync off for the game in your GPU drivers, but if that works you'll have to deal with tearing.

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>>16415032
Hina is the best debuffer in the game and can turn any boss who is not immune to debuff into a joke. All debuffs used on her are actually positive buffs if you have her learn the skill. In the early versions she was able to solo many bosses because there is a subclass that allows you to regen health based on the strenght of the debuffs you have on that char. Now the regen is nerfed for Hina.

Aya is stupidly fast and can mess up many fights if you give her the diva subclass.

Nitori has a skill that doubles the effects of any item she wears which becomes really good once you get endgame items.

Flan with the gambler subclass, your best damage items and buffs can kill almost anything in one hit, especially if it's weak to fire or shadow. Even the final boss in the base game gets destroyed by her in 2-3 attacks. Pic related is not even with full buffs/debuffs.

Komachi is the best tank and pretty much never dies under normal conditions.

Yuyuko has absurdly high chances to kill in one hit which can end many random battles in 1 move.

There is probably even more you could write about a lot of characters. Just experiment and read the wiki.

>>16415136
You can death the first 3 or so shadow bosses post game. But they aren't too hard. After the 4th the bosses get much harder and so do the randoms.

>>16415148
The beginning of the post game is too easy in general I think. I remember the Plus Disc in LoT1 being much more annoying right from the start, with those knights who could potentially kill a character in one hit if they used Scourge or those stupidly fast enemies who just served to drain your TP more.

Of course this also means less grindig now which is a nice thing for once. I have not stopped for grinding once so far in the LoT2 plus disc.

>>16415136
>>16415148
So this is all for LoT 2?

>>16415218
Yes, LoT 1 is somewhat different when it comes to the characters. Random examples: Eiki is a lot stronger in the first game and Chen has a broken gimmick since evasion does not work at all.

It's also really old you chanced are you won't find many people who still want to talk about it. On the other hand, it has a really good page on the wiki, with absolutely everything you might want to know.

>>16415249
So you don't have to play 1 before 2 ?

I'll still look into it. I feel it would be harder to go back to it if I spoil myself with new mechanics first

>>16415249
*so chances are
Geez how did I write this so wrong


>>16415256
No story reason at least, aside from a few callbacks in the sequel. First game has mostly jokes and shoutouts as it's dialogue. The Plus Disc of the first game literally has no plot, which the characters constantly make fun of.

>>16415286
Is the first game harder? I'm just comparing it to what I know about EO where the earliest games were punishing

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>>16415313
I'd say you die more often in the first game and exploring the dungeon for an extended period of time is a lot harder due to more limited TP.

You will never have this many battles in a row in LoT 1.

>>16415313
>>16415336
Also the expansion of the first game becomes grinding incarnate at about halfway in, to the point that every thread about LoT 1 always had guides on how to use Cheat Engine to give yourself a ton of experience in a single battle.

You will never beat the final floor in the expansion without Cheat Engine. Not unless you have about 300 hours to spare.

>>16415367
I love grinding as much as the next guy but that sounds kinda shit. So 2 is better balanced is what I'm getting

>>16415379
Yes. First game is still a fun game though. It's just the expansion that kinda messes up with the levelling curve.

>>16415396
Is there any kind of advice on what to do with skill points in the beginning?

>>16415418
It's probably been over 5 years since I played that game from the beginning but I remember just focusing on the primary damage stats and speed for damage dealers. Most characters only need points in attack or magic, not both. Only later was it actually required to shift some focus on resistances.

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What is Miko's gimmick in LoT 2? My japanese is too bad for this.

Apparently she can chance stances for different effects on her spell? Because her stats on their own are really not that great. She is slow as hell for starters.

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>>16415575
Using my shitty japanese I figured out that she actually has the same skill as Nitori to double item effects, just with a different name. She also has a skill that allows her to ignore 40% damage resistance if at full health and all the time(?) if she is together with Futo.

Crown Prince stong.

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>>16415367
>>16415379
uhm......... didn't even started the lot2 plus disc...

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>>16417122
How are you so fast in the first game but so slow in the second? At 69 hours I had already finished the plus disc demo long ago, with about 500 battles less fought.

>>16417173
>>16417122
LoT2 has its own postgame, lot1 didn't before the plus disk. So after beating the main game in 2 there was still plenty of bonus bosses to beat, achievements to unlock, etc.

Does anyone know what the new subclasses are in the Plus Disc? I think there are 4 new ones.

>>16417122
o-oh my

This is going to be a long game isn't it

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I think the enemies need to be bigger. I can still see too much of the back row.

>>16418690
Jesus Christ this is the definition of stat inflation.

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>>16418699
This isn't even close to the end actually.

Plus Disc has content for characters over level 700.

>>16418725
Do skill points have any use past level 200 in the +disk?

>>16418776
Yes, 200 is not even enough for some characters to max out all skills they have from the start. You can later find skill books that allow you to change boost skills into the strong version that Rinnosuke also has. Boosting one of those stats even once already costs 10 skill points. Characters can also use a new from of stone of awakening to learn more unique spells, which also require skill points to level up.

>>16418776
Some of the new skills require 50+ per level with multiple levels or 100 for one offs.

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Which character is most suited for the special subclass? I kinda feel like it is Kasen again. Or maybe Rinnosuke himself, though it would take him over way 100 levels to actually learn all the subcalls skills.

>>16415136
>Komachi is the best tank and pretty much never dies under normal conditions.
How should I be building Komachi? I just got her. Focusing on dumping level up points into just HP?

>>16419971
Get the Regeneration skill and the one that transforms defense debuff into buffs as soon as possible. Also the skill that increases chances of instant death.

Just put skill points mostly into HP, Elemental Affinities, and some Attack. Her counter skill can actually do some decent damage.

Her actual defense is pretty much as bad as Aya so no real reason to put many points into it. Affinities reduce damage a lot better.

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>>16420043
Also the Komachi fight was quite difficult since I didn't realize until just now you could upgrade and learn new skills so I grinded and even then it was close

I'll look into those skills

>>16420076
Best to check the Wiki. All the characters besides the Plus Disc characters have detailed pages there.

>>16420089
The wiki doesn't really say if I should focus on boosting stats that are already strong, or the weaker stats. Which is why I asked here since Komachi seemed to have top tier HP growth already.

I think I have a better idea now though, thanks

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Man the Plus Disc is really all over the place with it's difficulty. You'd think fighting the Moriya trio would be tough but they are so weak. Some random encounters are tougher than them. Only Kanako is still alive when Kasen runs out of MP and she can't deal any good damage. She just has way too much health.

I also like the overbuff skill Miko has.

>>16407824
Shit I probably should get around to playing that demo properly, wandered around a bit but when I saw there was some light source puzzle I didn't bother

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Rare footage of Kasen being bullied.

>>16420089
Is there a cap for skill points assigned in the magic library? And should I be raising the same stats I do with level ups with the library?

>>16423703
Affinity caps at 100.

The other stats can go over 400 at least. Never raised anything higher than that.

>>16423749
Oh great that helps even less. I wish I could see some builds as far as status levels and levelup points. I'm flying blind and feel like my HP is too low on many and end up getting one hit constantly on boss fights even with DEF and MND boosting gear

>>16424044
My advice is to just get what's cheap. Give everyone a bit of HP, def/mnd, and speed. It's cheap and helps to avoid diminishing returns, even if it isn't optimal. Don't bother spending a ton of money on one stat for a character unless you find that they're really useful in your party and need a ton of attack or defense or whatever. I never bother with affinities unless I'm running into trouble with a specific boss. Too expensive.

> getting one hit constantly on boss fights even with DEF and MND boosting gear

That might be for other reasons. Best thing to try is probably affinity boosting equipment. Some bosses tend to favor one element, and those are easier to defend against. Also, if you weren't aware, enemies tend to attack leftmost characters more often, so put your tanks (Remilia, Momiji, Parsee for magic attacks) on the left, and your fragile damagers on the right.

>>16424408
I'm aware of the elemental thing but I'm running into cases where even when I have affinity equip the enemy hits for more HP than the character has.

I tend to burn through MP far too quickly and get taken out on the turn I concentrate or before I can even do that. I think the issue there is I haven't really been boosting most characters speed so I'm going to fix that.

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>>16424438
If you game over 12 times in the tree you get Kasen. She might help if you really run into trouble early on since she has high stats in everything and strong moves.

Once you have more characters to chose from it gets easier, especially with a good debuffer like Hina.

>>16424459
Yeah I'm just before Hina now. The Lamprey FOE on Floor 4 is giving me issues but I may be underleveled.

Front loaded difficulty reminds me of SMT, once you have options the difficulty becomes a lot less. Difference is, those games are a lot more well documented.

>>16424477
Some enemies are also designed to always hit for way too much damage. They usually need to be shocked, paralyzed, delayed or debuffed in some fashion.

That image in >>16423333 is against a random encounter who does nothing but hit hard yet is also weak against just about any status condition besides death. There are a few like it, even earlier on.

FOE are designed to be way stronger than you when you first find them. Usually you just need to avoid them. I think some can be beaten earlier than intended but it requires some cheesy strats like mass debuffs + extremely high damage moves from characters like Marisa or Nitori and later Flandre.

>>16424510
Ah I took it out. Nazrin was surprisingly useful in this fight as well as Parsee since I was able to inflict Terror status. Also Komachi's retaliate skill was immensely damaging

I think Hina will be very beneficial once I get her if she's as good at debuffs as I hear.

>>16424543
Komachi's counter does a ton of damage if certain conditions are met. If the enemy used an attack that had a chance to inflict instant death or actually killed a character, her counter becomes way stronger than usually.

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Is there a worse floor gimick than this?

>>16424477
>The Lamprey FOE on Floor 4 is giving me issues but I may be underleveled.
Oh, yeah, that'd be your problem. You aren't really supposed to fight them as soon as you encounter them 90% of the time. The one on 2F is very misleading. They tend to be comparable to bosses 2-3 floors up, I believe.

Fight later FOEs at least once to see what they're about, but be prepared to avoid them and come back later.

>>16424655
Well Hina was trivialized since I grinded to 24ish beat that FOE. Incidentally, how does Parsee's Large Box Small Box work? It says random damage but it was like a nuke here

I just got my first stone of awakening, who is priority to use it on?

>>16425083
It is indeed random, but I don't remember exactly how it works. Someone was able to disassemble the exe and figured everything out (albeit with an older version), but I don't know where that info is now.

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>>16402774
It keeps happening

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>>16426522
Holy fug, this is what happens if the game has enemies who are weak to fire. Minoriko killed in one hit from Flandre.

I also restarted the fight because I thought I was over the challenge level. Turns out it really was 236 in the end.

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>>16426554
Turns out killing the cute god first causes Yuuka to go berserk with her Master Spark, dealing over 120k damage to everyone. Fun...

>>16424655
>>16425155
>>16426554
Can someone share a later safe file from the base LoT2 game? I want to take a look at how some characters are built, what items are worth getting, etc. As much as this thread is helpful I'd be able to answer a lot of my own questions with this and I couldn't find a save with basic googling beyond that NG+ beginning save with all characters that doesn't help me in the least.

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Stop bullying me (´°ω°`)

>>16427009
All saves I have are incompatable with the base game because they are deep in the plus disc. Sorry.

At that point many characters already have 300 boosts in their main stats.

>>16427071
It's okay, I think I may have found one on Shrine Maiden forums. I can't check it right now since I'm at university.

If anyone else has one and would be willing to post that would be cool.

>>16427144
Here is my endgame save.
https://mega.nz/#!fVwHjZQJ!T4Bl7uwJEZPpaCU166FGA24AF8uzBajaM95YIm2a4dc

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How do u guys get past these rocks on B7F? I have no idea where to go now.

>>16427261
I'll download that when I get home, Uni network doesn't seem to like Mega, stalling on 99%

>>16427310
Well according to my shitty Japanese, the bottom should open when you recruit everyone, and the top will open with "the power of the barrier of the tree that has become great"

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>>16427310
That row of rocks requires you to get a whole bunch of events on the highest floors that you can enter right now.

The charactes will have the sword absorb different elemental things in every event. At the end you unlock the new subclass >>16419856.

Once you have that subclass unlocked you can get past. Every rock is basically asking for a different element.

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2hus picking the wrong fight. It only attacked once and all hope is lost.

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>>16427750
O-oh...

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>>16414853
Even more fair and balanced damage output.

>>16427786
This guy looks familiar for some reason.

>>16413933
Its a setting, you have to turn it off.

>>16420116
>Regular encounters harder than boss fights

Sound like Star Ocean 3. That bugged the shit out of me.

>>16428284
That's what I thought, though I can't place it. Something from an anime maybe?

>>16428251
Jesus that damage. This game reminds me more and more of Disgaea the more I see when it comes to stat and damage. I hope a third game is eventually made.

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>>16428251
This is getting kinda silly. At least it's someone other than Kasen doing damage.

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>>16366499
This game was fun but it keeps glitching hard sometimes.

Getting this thing's soul was kind of annoying.

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This fight constantly buffs all your stats every time you take a turn.

Remi almost at 100% after attacking once.

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Challenge level: unknown

I hope the game is ready for the characters going in at maximum level for once because the previous boss only had a challenge level of 280.

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>>16433429
I don't think it is.

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>>16429398
Fair and balanced™

I seriously think the developers underestimated how strong some characters can become.

>>16428496
>Disgaea

That had like trillions of damage though.

>>16433486
So the game is even more broken now?

>>16433508
>trillions of damage though.
Billions. That said, the image right above you shows something hitting for nearly 7 million. That's why I made the comparison.

>>16433508
Certain things were clearly not fully thought through. It keeps giving you more and more powerful items as you go along. Since Nitori and Miko have a skill that doubles the strength of any item they use, their stats skyrocket. Minmax everything into attack and only gambler Flandre will still have more attacking power.

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For even more stupidly high numbers.

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Beat the main story of the plus disc. Your reward: AQN

New patch for Touhou Labyrinth 2 released, fixing a ton of awakening skills. Also fixes some stuff related to the infinite corridor dungeon. Apparently enemies were getting too strong in terms of attack power once they reached lvl 1000.

http://www.geocities.jp/aaa_3peso/THL2P/download.html

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>>16427750
Actually won against this thing now even though half my characters are underlevelled for the fight.

Took like half an hour with constant switching of every character due to HP and MP to 1 attacks.

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I went to the new highest floor that you can enter once you beat the expansion story and recruit all characters. Got into 1 random encounter to see what's up.

It is not pretty. Look at the damage Miko is taking.

>>16434192
Hahaha oh shit

>>16434192
Are all attacks that damaging? It seems like it could just be this game's version of Scourge from the last game.
Also, is it possible to get more treasure chest keys other than trading with Akyuu? I kind of want to save my infinity gems.

>>16435686
It's a dark version of Scourge. Some other attacks are still strong enough to one-shot people like Kasen though.

There are some fixed keys in the dungeon which you can pick up once. I think some achievements also had keys as a reward. Other than that, only Akyuu. I have not found an enemy that has keys as a drop so far.

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Now this is a bullshit fight. Once Sakuya goes below half health, she keeps spamming her time stop move every time it's her turn.

Paralyzed all day long.

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Okuu and Orin want to be strong endgame bosses too but they can't since the game hates them and made them weak to the most exploitable elements, like Spirit and Water.

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>>16421694
The only thing that bugs me about the pillar puzzles are the game's physics. Dropped objects in the pillars tend to bounce off once you put them there.

First puzzle: unlocks the room to the sniper rifle
put a light source on each of the 10 pillars

Second puzzle: unlocks the elevator panel with the Acceleration Gear
1) ru.so.n : ruson (clay pot)
2) ta.n.su: tansu (brown/black box)
3) ki.ri.ha.^.ko: kiribako (flat wood box)
4) ha.n.ki.^.ri: hangiri (wooden rack)
5) ha.^.su.te.to: basuteto (black cat statue)
6) yo.u.he.n.te.n.mo.ku: youhentenmoku (small tea cup in the office with the sniper rifle)

I'm kind of glad in a way that the scroll system makes is hard/almost impossible to max out a weapon's strength. I was able to max out the kunai and put out 1003 damage... it was the epitome of broken.

Here's a bit of (very rough) translated dialogue:
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[When you reach Banquet hall and Ayumu sees Souichirou with two members of the Iron Successors]

宴会場の天井から日南総一郎の密談を盗み聞きした //[Ayumu] eavesdropped on the secret conversation of Nichinan Souichirou from the banquet hall ceiling

十八公「我が名は十八公」 //Soyagmi: My name is Soyagimi

大豆生田「私の名は大豆生田 // Oomamyuuda: My name is Oomamyuuda
私達のことは（鉄の後継者）とおよび下さい」 // Please, call us the "Iron Successors"

日南総一郎「話は聞いている //I heard the story.
貴様らの仲間（明嵐）、（九石）、（八）なる無法者が //Your damned outlaw associates Mearashi, Sazarashi, and Oshimazuki
日南重工の足元で食人王の私兵と一戦交えていたことをな」//while on Nichinan Heavy Industries heels, crossed swords in battle with the Cannibal King's private army.

日南総一郎「ここへ来た理由は何か？ // What's your reason for being here?
停戦か？報復か？」 // A ceasefire? Revenge?

大豆生田「前者でございます //Oomamyuuda: The former.
……十八公殿？」 // ... Lord Soyagimi?

十八公「承知」 //Soyagimi: Understood.

大きな肉を切ったような鈍い音がする…… //There was a muffled sound of flesh being cut...

大豆生田「無法を行った仲間のケジメでございます」 //Oomamyuuda: This is the distinction from the previous acts of our lawless comrades.
//Alternative: This is to distinguish ourselves from our comrade's disorderly conduct.

日南総一郎「……両腕を犠牲にしてまで得たいものとは？」 // ...What do you want to gain by going so far as to sacrifice both of your arms?

大豆生田「社長のご子息の……日南歩の（得物）でございます」 // The president's son's... Nichinan Ayumu's specialized skill.

南総一郎「まだ生きておったか //So he's still alive
……気に入った //... I impressed
好きにしてよいぞ」 //Do as you wish.


大豆生田「はい、ありがとうございます //Oomamyuuda: Yes, thank you very much.
（娘）様の守りは食人王に代わり二十一にお任せください」 // In place of the Cannibal King, please leave your esteemed "daughter"'s protection to Nisoichi.

日南総一郎「露払いは任せる」 // I'll leave the herald to you.

>>16438139
Okuu want's to be hardcore but Satori won't let her

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>>16438139
Same thing again.

Once Ran is down to half health she summons 4 invisible minions. But she and her minions are all completely weak to water. Her minions also always start at 0 on their action bar and if they die she summons them again, wasting a turn. Cue Nitori spamming her water spell to kill all minions with Ran never attacking again.

Here Ran is being defeated. She only has 19 Million health. You can barely see her name in the middle.

Challenge level is 370, the highest so far. What a joke.

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>>16438959
Only Satori may wipe out your party in one move.

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>>16440302
Holy fuck this fight is the most bullshit one yet. Koishi has such an absurd amount of evasion only 1 out of 20 attacks will ever hit and Satori has the strongest spells from half the playable characters. Koishi can also completely heal Satori's health and status whenever she wants.

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Here is a funny bug. Kokoro is just not there.

How did they not notice this?

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>>16418690
There must be more big enemies on the screen.

>>16440705
What is playtesting even

Actually this shit even slips by in big budget AAA games, I'm fairly impressed with how well this game works even with it's bugs

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Summoning Ran and Chen did not go as planned for Yukari.

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>>16442647
It keeps happening. Ran can't even survive one move while Chen surprisingly can.

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>>16442690
Oh wow

>>16442647
So is what you're in that infinite corridor or what? To me it just looks like they're recycling bosses from the main game and pumping levels.

>>16442817
The game has Shadow versions of each character in the expansion. Most are set up in a way to make the fights completely different but a select few like Yukari are just the old fights with more stuff added. Stuff like the fight with Flandre is completely different now that she has Meiling and Patchouli with her. Some fights are also against characters that you never fought in the base game, like Kasen or Akyuu.

The game has completely new boss fights for the story related battles but you are still required to beat a certain amount of shadow bosses to get past some roadblocks.

>>16442847
Ah sounds nice. I'm really impressed with this game. Right now I'm on floor 12 of the main game getting rekt by the mirror and magatama. I guess these are supposed to be hard fights and they sure feel like it

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Yet another fight that is super annoying. Reimu can randomly block all damage, can only ever have her speed stat debuffed and also deals a ton of damage every few turns.

Only way to win seems to be to stall her out with poison, which takes forever and is super risky.

Also, Marisa was there with Reimu but she is weak to water so whatever.

>>16442881
Well the mirror was a fucking joke and I nuked it first try with the NEET, but the magatama took me a very long time to beat. Time to find out how bad 12F Tenshi is in comparison. I've heard not as bad.

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>>16442473
This is looking really silly.

>>16443498
These are just random mobs? Holy shit so big

>>16443498
Are the expansion randoms as bullshit as the base post game's?

>>16443638
Most of them are ok. Every floor usually has 2-3 enemies that can spell trouble though but you can usually tell which ones they are since they are much bigger and higher levelled. Usually best to always have Aya in your party at the start of every battle so you can switch accordingly as fast as possible.

There is a big jump in difficulty with random encounters once you reach BF8.

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Some of the achievements in LoT2 seem really a bit too much.

>Someone in the group reaches Lv 1,000
>Play time breaks 256 hours
>Win 10,000 battles
>The number of "infinite jewels" handed over to Akyuu exceeded 100
>Perform status improvement in the magic library 100,000 times

There is also stuff like getting every sub equipments or getting the data on every single enemy.

>>16445557
It would be hard to do that even if you do every floor.

>>16445557
How are infinite jewels obtained? I'm not in post game yet but it sounds like that would be a pain in the ass

>>16447581
How many floors are there anyway? I am on floor F27 and BF10. The jap wiki does not go further than those floors but it's also still really incomplete. Does not even have any text written on the 27F page for example.

>>16449081
>it's also still really incomplete
More complete than the english one that's for damn sure. Why does the english wiki miss something as simple as maps or locations of the items in the items lists despite having a field for them?

>>16449093
Game is simply not popular enough. Most people probably don't even know that the expansion is out since the devs made almost no ads for it. The big comiket games preview video did not even mention this game. Even the english patch for the base game was released with very little announcement. It was just kinda there suddenly.

Some guy added stuff from the Plus Disc Demo at one point but that's it.

>>16449122
I kind of understand why it's the case, but still. That disappoints me considering how in depth the game is.

I read the same team who did the translation of 2 will be doing the plus disk around March once the end of the announced patches comes and they already have a lot done as a result of data mining the demo.

>>16449162
I think the Wiki pages for the first game were also written by many people from Pooshlmer because the translation came from there and there was always a thread for the game. But because that place died the sequel is missing the 24/7 threads that the old game had so now there is less activity on the wiki as well.

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This has to be the dumbest shadow fight in terms of mechanics. Rinnosuke will try to heal his friend if she has a status but his heal does not remove paralysis. If you can keep paralysis up they will never even attack you.

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This is what you are allowed to fight once you beat all shadow bosses.

Keep in mind that even the highest shadow boss battle has a challenge level of less than 450.

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>>16449854

So, I'm playing through the game and I'm stuck on Yuuka. I just finished exploring the first part of 14F and went back to fight Yuuka since she has a challenge level of 53, while the next boss has a challenge level of 55. The bitch is raping my team though, despite everyone having a lot of NTR affinity and decent defenses.

Not to mention that absurd amount of HP, which she can heal while killing everyone with Gensokyo's Reflowering. Should I just wait to kill her later and level down, or am I missing something here? Even Tenshi is taking about 800-1000 per hit at 200 affinity and 1500 mind.

>>16449929
You have to kill her before she Master Sparks. Wait a little while until you can reliably nuke her. I want to say I took her out with Nitori though, try putting her in the Monk subclass. It took me about 3 tries and some times she doesn't spam HP regen.


Also just a general comment since I'm about to hit floor 18. Jesus fucking christ. The hardest boss in the entire game so far was that Magatama on 12F. Everything since then has been a cakewalk, minus Flan. 12F lacks balance so bad, you come from 11F and have to grind about 10 levels, and even then there's no way you can deal damage fast enough before that thing gets so fast it takes 5 turns for every one of yours. Then it takes you down to 1HP and follows that up with a party wide hit.

As a comparison, the Mirror was extremely easy, and Tenshi was down before I had to think.

>>16449929
Suika might also help you. Buff her up and spam her Throwing Atlas, but Nitori is a better pick.

That said, that level 55 boss will probably be easier for you if it's what I think it is.

>>16450097
I decided to do it just now and it was super easy, even at level 53. Just had to spam Nitori's gun and have Aya make it always be Nitori's turn. Alice kept slowing the thing down while Kasen helped with damage and debuffs.

I tried Yuuka a few more times but the main problem I have is damage, everyone is dying before I can even get her to about 70%. Not sure if it is bad luck but she keeps throwing multi target spells at me and healing right after buffing herself, it's a bit too much to handle. I'll press on and go back later with more money to spend on stats.

>>16450107
It might be bad luck, especially if you're dying that quick. Still, I'd go on a little while if you're having trouble doing enough damage since she's a healer. Yuuka is definitely harder than her "Level 53" recommendation suggests.

>>16353555
Pang isn't working for me, anyone know how to run it?

>>16450693

>>16389504

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I love it. When you reach the very end of BF10 in in the plus disc and start the fight against the boss there, the characters don't even say anything. You just get one line of text that says "Something horrible is getting closer..." and then you just fight.

>>16445557
>Play time breaks 256 hours
>Win 10,000 battles
I haven't started Plus yet and I believe I have the requirements.

>>16451853
Makes you wonder if that is going to be this game's ***WINNER*** or if there's something even more absurd afterwards

>>16452191
People speculate that there will be more content released as either patches or another expansion. The boss at the end of BF10 is only lvl 499 while >>16449854 is level 799. That hairball is just some random boss you can find on BF4 if you beat all shadow characters and feels really cut off from every other boss.

Level gap is way too big for this to already be every floor released.

>>16452561
Plus Plus incoming? With how much they're adding to 2 it makes you wonder if the developer has any intention of making a third installment with some of the newer characters

>>16452964
If so, I'm not so sure that making the levels even higher is a good idea. Power creep gets bothersome after a while.

>>16453005
Seeing as how the game has an achievement for getting to lvl 1000 with a character, the new content will probably be at this level near the end of it.

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After 10 floors through the infinite dungeon I have 1500 points to spend yet the best items still require so many more.

Getting those items seems extremely broken on Miko and Nitori due to their 2x item bonuses.

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So have other people bothered farming items in the endless corridor by just grabbing chests and leaving? Initially I just wanted to see how re-entering worked, but since the chests respawn I thought I'd garm for some infinity gems to get treasure chest keys. Turns out you can get some absurdly good items even from L1 chests if you open them properly.
So far I have pic related (page 12 sub), a few from page 11 and about half of page 10, and this is all from 2F treasure chests.

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>>16453311
This is the other stuff. Some of these are from actual chests in the normal dungeon, but most is from the corridor. Also got 1 Adamantite.

>>16453311
I was thinking about doing that but I settled for going for one of the really expensive buyable items first.

Definitely going to do it later.

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>>16453367
Just got wiped out by some magic based random encounter that dealt over 300k damage to everyone on floor 15 because that floor had the risky status which raised all enemy level by a large %.

RIP

>>16453360
Oh wow it goes up to page 11? So it's more than double the base game

>>16453468
Page 12 actually.

I've been farming on 14F for one hour now trying to drop the 4th Byakuren Scroll. Is there a specific enemy that drops it? Should I be somewhere specific on the map to drop it? I've been using the west side of the map.

>>16453594
I got it the very encounter after I got the third scroll event. I've heard it's random though.

>>16453311
The fact that this works is kinda stupid but also awesome at the same time.

I wonder if they wanted people to do this

>>16453619
Well after another wave of grinding, I didn't manage to drop it. I decided to try using Nazrin to grind since she has the item drop chance increase skill, and what do you know, got it within 20 battles. It could be bad luck, but maybe it only drops after Nazrin has a bit more BP than the required for the 3rd event? Back then I made sure to count and only have exactly what was necessary for it.

>>16453767
Prepare for disappointment. You can't really take advantage of Byakuren at such a low level since her Sutras are very expensive + the necessary Strategist points.

So what's the ideal party for quick 20F Depths grinding?

>>16454087
I wasn't disappointed at all. Putting her level up bonuses on HP and investing some money on her defenses/HP got me a tank with near-Tenshi bulk and near-Komachi HP, with affinities all over 100 with the right items.

Pairing that with her self heal skill and the Strategist's skills, she's pretty self-sufficient, and managed to hold her ground well against Flandre, Yuyuko and the Lv62 boss on 15F. All she does is debuff foes and be a fast switcher, and she's great for transferring buffs she ends up getting from everyone else from being in the front line.

So far she's one of the best characters I have for boss fights. She did fail at her task on the Eiki fight, but that fight ended up being super easy once she used Concentrate, so there's that.

>>16450123
Well, after taking down Eiki at level 65, then dropping back to 53, I managed to do it. Had to cheese it with Aya and Flandre though. Basically, what I did was have Aya and Byakuren switch in the attackers every other turn, then keep it up until either I run out of attackers from her multi target moves or she concentrates, which is when Gambler Flandre comes in for the 100k Laveatein kill.

Aya had 300 NTR affinity and 102 EVA, and Byakuren was just there being the secondary switcher. Reimu tried to heal whenever Aya took a hit, and Parsee was ready to take Aya's place if she ended up dying. Honestly the hardest fight yet, since I had to abuse Aya and pray for good luck.

>>16454698
Just get good overall characters like Kasen, Nitori and some mages like Kaguya or Reisen. Maybe Hina as well. Have all the characters with drop boosting skills like Rinnosuke, Keine and Nazrin. Also good to have Flandre with the gambler subclass to just nuke stuff.

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Are there any characters that really stand out when it comes to the new Awakening skills?

I know Hijirin has a skill that causes all heals on her to always heal max HP, no matter how little it would heal normally.

Are there any others that are really worth getting as fast as possible?

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Here is Nitori with 3 of the 666% stat boost items which all get doubled in strength thanks to her skill.

>>16455573
I figured as much. Reisen is surprisingly effective the way I have her built. Flandre burns through TP too quickly though, even with Sanae's TP regen skill active.

Guess I'll have to grab rinno, keine, and nazrin to boost exp and drop rate though.

Also just a general question since the english wiki doesn't say, where are the two post game stones of awakening?

>>16457240
There's on on the 13th floor extra. Or maybe it was 14 or 15. Whatever.

I remember missing one in the main game where you drop from 14F down to 13 through a pitfall (or maybe it was 15 to 14).

Yes I am vague.

>>16457272
I made sure I got all the ones in the main game including that one you're mentioning since I missed that the first time through. There are 10 in the main game.

Wew 20F Depths grinding is slow. At least the money comes quick so I can boost Voile levels and grind quicker as a result