Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

Sekai/Denpa
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
>Nenokami - Part 2 98.27% translated
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title Steam released, uncut has tech work + QA left, 3rd 75% translated
2236 A.D. - 100% translated, ongoing engine/QA work
>Maitetsu - 55.55% translated
Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 100% translated, ongoing engine/QA work
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
WEE 3 - 100% translated, beta out shortly
>Chrono Clock - 60.36% translated, kickstarted finished
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
>Tenshin Ranman - 66.54% translated
Darekoi - 100% translated
Wagamama High Spec - 100% translated. Editing/Engine work ongoing
>Koikuma - 14.63% translated
Hoshizora no Memoria - 67% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - In QA
SakuSaku - In QA
Baldr Sky - Picked up both 1 and 2
Fatal Twelve - Picked up
Project Lux - Picked up
Her and Her and My 7 Days - Picked up
Girls in Glasses - Picked up


Frontwing
Corona Blossom - Vol 2 Released, Volume 3 upcoming
Grisaia no Senritsu - 2016 release
Grisaia: Phantom Trigger - first 2 volumes in Spring 2017
>Sharin no Kuni - 2nd Kickstarter preview up
Island - Picked up


Visual Arts
Little Busters - Picked up
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
Muv Luv - Released, uncut patch in November
Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Collar x Malice - 2017 release
Period Cube - 2017 release
Bad Apple Wars - 2017 release
Code: Realize fandisc - Picked up


Fruitbat
Enigma - November 15th release
Hakoniwa no Gakuen - 50% translated, Spring 2017 release
Seven Days - Late 2017 release


Other
Steins;Gate 0 - November 25th release
Shuffle - PC port of PS2 version scheduled for a November release
Taisho Alice - December release for the 4 chapters planned
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common/Mari/Calen/4 Bonus routes translated, Aoi 30%, Lycoris 30%, March 2017 release
Dies irae - Announced, Kickstarter planned
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
>Himawari to Koi no Kioku - On Steam Greenlight
Short Whirlpool title scheduled for Spring
Moenovel is working on a new title
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>Only 5 active TL projects.
Is fan translation dead?

>>16098432
Been dead for years now.

>>16098432
>>Only 5 active TL projects.

On the surface, yes. Not every fan translation has to update every week.

>>16098332
>Clover Day's - Common + 4 routes done, last route 348/711 KB translated
>Note that although the bulk of the translation is complete, this does not remotely imply that the end is in sight. While the biggest chunk of work has been done, all the routes need extensive translation checking and editing which itself is going to be done by Astro, who remains busy, so there is no ETA on when the completed patch will be available at this stage. The task of making partial patches also falls on him but I suspect none are planned.
Sekai when

>>16096297
I wouldn't really know since I don't stalk Twitter. /jp/ and /vn/ are the only places I go to, and the latter I go to less and less since it's just /eceleb/ these days.

But, yeah, in my opinion it's very good. Probably in my top 10 of translated material. It has some issues, like pacing (mostly contained within Door 6) and some minor repetition, but it wasn't really such a big deal in my opinion, especially in comparison to other visual novels which are far worse in that regard.

>>16097232
>flaws art wise
The art grew on me. Some of the CG are noticeably better than others, but I think that's probably due to the development cycle of the game. The artist most likely got better throughout that cycle, as many of the CG/Sprites in Door 3+ look quite good.

>>16097302
>The fiancee character was over the top on every level
Who?
>And the nice villagers became psychos at the drop of a hat because the plot demanded it
Not really at the "drop of a hat," though. That's blatantly inaccurate. After the village-head found her collapsed and exhausted, Giselle had spent a decent amount of time in the village, she spurns Amedee's affections, and, shortly after, their village is discovered by a Lord who then begins taxing them heavily. Given the limited population of the village and the lackluster harvest, they are strained for working hands, so much so that even the sick in the village are being forced to work. Starvation begins to occur. They start fighting over grain and it tumbles down from there. Amedee uses Giselle as a scapegoat for the village, in large part because she denied his marriage proposal. He then proposes they use her as a baby-factory so they can eventually get more working hands. I never saw this as psychopathic, but as a logical progression once a small village begins crushing under the pressure of starvation and heavy taxes. Giselle was never formally from the village anyway, she was the last one there and barely contributed anything to them except being pretty to look at. Their betraying of her made tragic sense.

>>16097323
>The most lethal character suddenly swearing allegiance to MC was just weird
The Swordsman, right? That wasn't sudden either. The MC uses his knowledge of the Swordsman's psychological plight to manipulate him over to his side. The Swordsman was always eager to be truly understood by others, so it made sense to me. It's a great scene, in my opinion. He uses set-up of Door 2 for a pay-off of in the Final Door. In-fact, it's in large part why the finale of the game is so good; as everything which was established in what was essentially the game's prologue is used very well in conjunction to the various predicament of the Final Door.

/autism

>>16098605
Alcot has a license with JAST already, so it might not happen.

But the whole, "no end in sight" reminds me of what the SakuSaku translator was saying for around a year before it got licensed by Sekai.

>>16098607
Fata Morgana is really impressive in how so many small details throughout the title are then used later on as a solution or as an important plot element. Even as far back as Door 1 you get heavy foreshadowing for the end of the game, it's pretty impressive how almost everything had a purpose.

>>16098614
Jokes aside about Sekai, aren't there companies out there that have multiple licenses. Purple Software is with MG and Sekai. The translator works with Sekai so I truly do believe he's going to sell it. More power to him

>>16098622
Yeah, that's true. And JAST hasn't done anything with Alcot in quite a while, I think. So I'm not ruling it out completely.

>>16098622
Innocent Grey is with JAST and Mangagamer, Frontwing self-publishes and uses Sekai (although probably only until they finish off Grisaia) and MG, Moonstone is trying to self-publish to get more stuff out and WillPlus is the same as Frontwing, but with JAST instead of Sekai.

>>16098605
Fucking scum translators, I hope they rot in hell.

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Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/EkLvmHbP
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/UwY0gJ0T
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/RqqQGu6S

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

Given that fata sold like dogshit its impressive that MG still shilling this garbage.

>>16098971
It was translated by BDH, so no one will buy it for sure now.

With Go Go Nippon 2016 out, MG probably should remove the 2015 version from the "available titles" list highlighted on the homepage.

How long was MYTH in MG top sellers ?
I was distracted with Trillion and Tyranny so I forgot to keep track.

>>16099182
Also did anything noteworthily happened ?

>>16099182

Two weeks it looks like, not really a great showing.

>>16098971
Fata's popularity keeps increasing though. It's pretty much set to become one of the classics of the translated VN scene. MG has a long tail for this one.

>>16098748
Order Number - 237272
Order Date - 2016-11-12
Sonohana
Lolige

>>16099240
>Fata's popularity keeps increasing though
How do you measure that though?
Without a chart there's no way to know.

>>16099263
Not him, but increased number of votes on vndb, and the amount of discussion regarding it outside of /jp/ and /vn/, I guess. Hell, I saw it randomly dropped in a completely unrelated board the other day.

Personally I believe it will always be comparatively niche--most people in the VN community like lighter-hearted moege and such--but I have been seeing increasing discussion about it.

In any case, it most certainly has probably made its money back by now. I really doubt Fata was an expensive venture. It may be extremely well-regarded in Japan, but it's still a doujin title with no voice acting.

Tokyo Babel seems like the true flop, since, from what I've heard, it was probably a pretty expensive license. I don't know how accurate that is, though.

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>>16099240
>It's pretty much set to become one of the classics of the translated VN scene
>298 votes total
>classics
This level of delusion is almost cute.

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>>16099269
>Not him, but increased number of votes on vndb, and the amount of discussion regarding it outside of /jp/ and /vn/, I guess. Hell, I saw it randomly dropped in a completely unrelated board the other day.
Duh, the accumulated number of votes will obviously increase over time.
Actually if you make a chart with vndb votes you will find out that the number of user votes is dwindling.

>>16099312
That seems relatively stable
RD dropped off hard though

>>16099312
Why no one plaing Root Double? Why they backed Kickstarter if they dont want to play it?

>>16099321
It sucks ass after A.

>>16099321
vndb is biased towards people who give enough shits to vote on games.

For people who enjoy point and clicks, the Saturn version of Policenauts was released recently. Supposedly it's better than the PS1 version.

Sakura Taisen translation patch never ever.

>>16098432
Are those TL even good?
I know Clover day is translated by some SP employee but what about the others?

Why does Dies Irae portrait Nazis as cool? ACTUAL people died because of their disgusting actions.
Vile assholes.

>>16098607
The fiancee character was likely talking about Aimee. She was about blood countess tier fucked up. And nobody questioning her at all just felt unbelievable.

>>16098607
The swordsman thing wasn't as you said either.He followed Michel because he came under the belief that Michel was an angel, which Michel kept denying to him.

>>16099890
To be fair he only comes to that conclusion because Michel knows everything about him from Door 2. In a sense, he does play mind games with him, and he definitely takes advantage of his psyche, albeit with completely good intentions.

>>16099326
How long is A?

>>16098332
>AstralAir - 100% translated, release a long ways off
Haha, yeah right.

I can't wait to desecrate the East German national anthem. Rance better come out before Christmas.

>>16100321
It is likely to come out 2 days before or 5 days after with how the upcoming MG schedule looks.

MangaGamer upcoming games poll

www.strawpoll.me/11645245

Are Sekai our guys now

>>16101088
If they actually release 18+ maitetsu patch, yes.

>>16101100
That is kind of the deciding factor, with baldr 18+ also playing a part in if they are scum or good.

It is pretty bad that ChuSingura all-ages still haven't been pirated so people can try and make patches. I really want to play the full game.

>>16101301
Hopefully the reason it hasn't been pirated yet is because nobody bought it in the first place.

>>16101301
I'm also hoping for a patch, but has anyone even expressed the desire to TL it?

>>16101340
Conjueror said he was disappointed with the official release's announcement since he wanted to do it himself. Not quite what you're asking but that's all I remember

>>16100895
Maggot Baits. Anything from Clockup.

>>16101301
I wonder how the DLC strategy worked. They obviously got a hell of a lot of people to download chapter 1 (nearly 200k based on Steamspy) but that doesn't say much about how many people purchased the DLC.

Try talking about visual novels and not twitter personalities for once.

>>16101301
Wow, what a flop.

>>16099932

A is 1/4, B is 1/4, D is 1/2. B is lacking and D is all sorts of fucked. I liked A a lot though.

>>16102478
Only 1/4 of it is good? Damn, that about 10 hours or so?

>>16102489

Probably about that give or take, yeah. I think the 50+ hour length on VNDB is overstating it though. Probably should be labeled 30-50 hrs even if you are going for 100% completion (which there is no reason to since 95% of the bad ends are just "you did some dumb shit, and died because of it").

Like I said, I thought A was great. B was... okay. And there were definitely good parts throughout D but I found it very polarizing, one moment it's exciting and the next it's boring as hell. Idk though, the average vndb score is 8.3 so clearly I'm in the minority.

Not that it means anything for how Shuffle eventually does when it is released on Steam, but for what it is worth YumeHaven's initial promotional giveaway came up well short of their stated goals (they were aiming for 1000 followers/1000 likes, they got 372/202).

Great can we talk about visual novels now and not a faggot e-celeb tier slapfight on twitter?

>>16101301
https://mega.nz/#!bgthFZqT!FhM5OIWCJiJr11W9DP7jFqZFPy2W7EbEU2wt6h4s7qY

Its un-cracked, though.

http://www.nutaku.net/blog/adult-indie-funding-where-it-went-and-how-its-spent/

Nutaku did a blog post on how to spend 2 million dollars (much of it seems to have gone to crap). It does indicate that Denpasoft did get money out of the fund as they are included on the list of publishers, but that was more or less confirmed already.

>Some of the money has even gone to small publishers localizing titles from abroad, helping ensure western audiences have access to the game's original adult content.

Aside from Denpasoft, this seems to suggest that at least one other studio is bringing over a game for "western audiences" will include an uncut release because of Nutaku cash.

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>>16099321
You don't see much discussion about RD because it just played everything too safely. The sci-fi is great, the universe is well rounded, but everything's perfectly explained by the end and it leaves no room for speculation. It doesn't have great twists, or rather, it does, but they're not really presented as such since the foreshadowing is so heavy you've already figured things out before they happen. It doesn't even have meme worthy material like "who kicked the can" (there could've been "who stole the AD" but even that was explained in the extra scenes). Personally I thought it was one of the best releases of the year, even if has some awful pacing issues especially during route B and towards the end. But you won't have many questions once you finish it.

Btw, I wonder what Nakazawa is up to nowadays.

>>16102478
Wasn't there also a route C? I remember it being the shortest but it was still 3+ hours long and was important to make route D make sense.

>>16103091
>uncut release
As far as I am concerned, even if Sekai Project were to release a release of a game with its 18+ content, I still wouldn't trust it being "uncut".
Both Sekai Project and Nutaku are more than fine with cutting and or editing stuff, and while Nutaku's games may still have plenty of ero they're also censored and edited a lot still.
Having ero is no indication of it being an "uncut" and "unedited" release.

It's cancer working with cancer. They really have to turn things around to prove otherwise. Even if their upcoming releases were flawless I still wouldn't trust them that quickly. Their track record, attitude, and policies regarding their work is just that bad.

>>16103247
>The sci-fi is great
That is one of the problems I had with it. It tries to set it up as some near future with some high technology and then mostly ignores it and focuses on telepathy super powers beyond route A. It was still good and worth a read, but it was no Ever 17, 999, etc.

>>16099321
I liked it

>>16103012
Hopefully combining the free first episode and this should be enough to extract the scripts if nothing else.

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>>16103012
Thanks anon. I manged to modify once of Codex's cracks to work with this and it should now work if you copy these files to the folder.
https://mega.nz/#!DQsVRCoD!Way1zaUMSSCJQxfYFpXFg6TF-y5zU4dKg9Fkjgeo8gY
Though I can't confirm if it will unlock all chapters, but it did unlock chapter 2 once I skipped though all of chapter 1.
I would test them all, but the skip function is broken and will stop every time a new scene starts so you have to restart the skip every few min. I can't be fucked to do that just to check.

>>16099321
The Kickstarter very barely made it, and presumably few of the people who funded it even cared enough to vote on vndb. It isn't even a particularly good title.

Go Go Nippon's achievements on Steam are a ripoff. You have to buy the DLC to get them and they're still not working for me.

>>16104526
Didn't you read the fine print? You have to travel to Japan in real life to get it.

>>16104526
Steam doesn't allow for achievements to be part of DLC, so they always have to be added that way. It's a bit annoying. Not sure why it doesn't work though.

>>16103832
Since Koihime went through without an issue, most moege, which are generally tamer, should be able to follow. Maitetsu may have problems, but in general the companies working with Nutaku for an 18+ release of a title they are also putting on Steam aren't working with Clock Up or Rance like titles.

>>16104761
>should
Nutaku's mobage/browser games are also tame as fuck, and they still get censored a ton. To this day.

>>16104802
Indeed, they have a cycle of censoring then saying "we will fix it" with mixed results. However they have yet to have a problem with their downloadable store, and until that changes I wouldn't be too concerned.

>>16104139
The .exe won't even start.Do I need to have steam?

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>>16104874
Steam is installed on my system, but it wasn't running. Make sure the files are unblocked by right clicking and clicking properties and near the bottom there may be a thing that says the file is blocked (not shown in pic as already unblocked) and that also the files are where the exe is.

>>16104899
It still doesn't work.I'll try to download steam later

>>16104980
>I'll try to download steam later
Not sure that is it anon. I just put it on an external drive and tried it on another PC that doesn't have steam and it still ran.
Not sure what else to suggest though other than a PC restart and double check the .ini and .dll and the .exe are unblocked.
I am just happy it runs for me, as I have been waiting for someone to finally upload it, though I have heard the translation gets pretty ropy in the later chapters.

>>16105084
Perhaps it depends on which drive you run it from. (Like favoring C: or something)

I just like VNs and hope we'll have a healthy market for them in the west one day. For all-ages and eroge titles alike.

Is that really too much to ask?

>>16105548
Yes. There is no way to get along.

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>>16105548
Then buy both and fuck off. Your money is more important that someone's opinion.

>>16105548
>For all-ages and eroge titles alike.
>Is that really too much to ask?
Lots of people seem to treat it as zero sum, even if it may be silly to do so, which also influences western publishers. Nothing will change until that goes away.

>>16105548
>all-ages
Kill yourself.

>>16105739
Please don't tell others to kill themselves. It's not funny and you never know when you might catch someone in just the right frame of mind that they might actually do something tragic as result. It may not even be the person you intended your message for.

You might act all edgy and tough online, but surely you would feel bad if such a thing happened, wouldn't you?

>>16106061
Not him, but kill yourself. I won't even say please.

>>16106116
You don't have to try so hard, you know. Who do you have to prove anything to, here? Isn't it better if we can all just be civil and polite to one another?

>>16105548

Success of all ages titles leads to more resources diverted away from eroge and towards all ages titles.

>>16106181
Better they go after legitimate all ages stuff than to strip down eroge when they want the Steambux.

Besides, a smart publisher will do both. You want to bring in every demographic you can.

>>16106422
Also I should add that for companies like MangaGamer that work almost exclusively through contract workers paid a piece rate, resources are not bottlenecked by the amount of titles worked on as much as you'd think. Yes, there is SOME administrative bottleneck, but it's not that hard to juggle a large amount of projects and still get them out in a timely manner, as long as you have a large enough pool of workers willing to get shit done.

>>16098748
Order Number - 237531
Order Date - 2016-11-15
Himawari
Enigma

>>16098748
>>16106441
Order Number - 237236
Order Date - 2016-11-12 11:38:39
Himawari

If earlier dates are accepted

Order Number - 207832
Order Date - 2016-08-18 13:28:47
House in Fata Morgana

Order Number - 168027
Order Date - 2016-03-15 21:08:00
Tokyo Babel

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>>16098332
>>Fata morgana fan disc - 36% translated
That's the first time it's updated in what, one and a half months? And it's gone from 30% to 36%. So much for the planned 2016 release.

>>16107091
Any chance of it getting a 2016 release seemed to have been already out the window by Otakon.

>>16106440

>as long as you have a large enough pool of workers willing to get shit done

Annnnnnnnnnd that's the problem. There are relatively few people capable of JP to EN translation, fewer who are willing to work on "weebshit" tier stuff (as opposed to working in the Japanese corporate sphere, which is a far more "respectable job"), and then you get to the biggest bottleneck of pay which is pretty much hobbyist tier.

Truth be told the number of people working in the VN localization industry is almost certainly less than a hundred right now, and none of them are being paid very well anyways.

>>16107115
Most of the fan translators are migrating over to work on official stuff though. But yeah, I guess you could argue that number of available employees is a meaningful bottleneck for the moment. At least until they start earning enough to hire actual professionals to do this shit, which might be a while at the rate it's going.

>>16107133
I think it's worth noting that Conjueror is an actual professional, i.e. he worked in Japan translating official documents before transitioning to visual novels.

>>16107162

Technically, anyone doing the job for pay is a "professional", if we want to get pedantic about it, so anyone working for MG is by definition a professional.

But that he translated non-literature stuff doesn't necessarily say to me that he's going to be good at carrying over the more creative stuff. I'm not saying that I think his Japanese experience outside of creative writing HURTS him, I just don't think that it automatically makes him a superlative TL. It does at least guarantee he has a certain baseline of proficiency that's not found in a lot of TLs in the industry these days, I guess.

If anything it's his clear obsession with various books in English that makes me think he'll try to do a good job on descriptions and stuff. I just wonder how he does porn. Has he done any?

>>16107215
Fucking descriptions kill me. Maybe I should get on that reading more English books thing.

>>16107215
>so anyone working for MG is by definition a professional
Good joke.

>>16107236
It's not a joke... it's the definition, like he said.

>>16107236
Well, to be fair Dovac was the CEO of SP but it's hard to consider him as a professional.

>>16107289

It's the difference between "being A professional" and "being professional". One is a more objective noun, the other a more subjective adjective. You can be the former without being the latter.

>>16107215
>I just wonder how he does porn.
He does porn by not doing porn.

>>16107474
Maybe Garejei will do all the porn bits if they ever do porn.

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>>16107474
>>16107491

>>16107510
Surprised that Maria got Sorcery Jokers over him. Maybe she requested it first?

>>16107518
She's not vile asshole, so she gets to decide what title she wants first.

>>16106061
Agreed, what a vile asshole

>>16107518
He could actually just be busy. We know he has a few projects, even if Enigma and DI are both, he likely has a third.
But it is odd, since Conjueror is so obsessed with chuu2 you'd think he'd be their first pick for any chuu2 title.

Kouryuu is working on a list of trigger warnings for Maggot Baits.

>>>/vg/160261868

>>16107946
He should warn them that the game is shit.

>>16107946
>trigger warnings
Looks more a legal advisory to cover their ass.

>>16107963
It looks like the same thing they did to spoil Fata Morgana.

Spoilers
http://blog.mangagamer.org/2016/05/12/the-house-in-fata-morgana-content-advisory/

>>16107946
I am thinking any lawyer would tell them to do the same thing with a title like Maggot Baits.

>>16107967
>It goes without saying that there will be spoilers.
Which they told you it would have.
Do you complain about the warnings at the start of VNs that tells you it has H content? It "spoils" the fact the MC has sex.

>>16107978
People took the spoilers and posted them everywhere to ruin the vn for everyone else. It was a dumb idea to post that before launch.

>>16107971
>This content may not be suitable for all audiences.
Should've been sufficient.

>>16107967
No, it isn't remotely the same thing, that Maggot Baits warning clearly is written to be included as part of the game startup sequence, not as a blog post.

>>16107984
>People took the spoilers and posted them everywhere to ruin the vn for everyone else
But any person who had a summary from some jap blog could have done the same. Have you not seen it done with manga or anime before?

>>16107967
Yeah, I don't get the complains about that. As >>16107978 said, they told you that there will be spoilers before actually listing them out, you don't have to read it.

>>16107990
MG made the spoilering of their own vn extremely easy for people. And most EOPs can't read Japanese, so having convenient spoilers in English just made it worse.

People are freaking out about a Danganronpa scan because it showed Nagito's head under Mikan's skirt. Now fujo shippers are exploding, because they think he's interested in Mikan. He most likely just tripped due to bad luck and ended up under her skirt.

>>16108008
>bad luck
You what mate?

>>16108019
This is not even related, you retard.

>>16108023
>>16108022
Anti-MG shills are here in force.

>>16108019
What are you going on about? I'm annoyed at them spoilering their vns. It's annoying and when I was playing Fata I kept wondering how surprised I'd be if I wasn't already spoiled on the big twist about Michel.

>>16108031
Is no different to how shit gets spoiled in /a/ or even /jp/ all the time due to fags posting unspoilered shit. You could have not just read the spoiler before playing the game by not staying in /vn/ after the blog post went up.

>>16107984

Mangagamer made a potentially questionable move in an attempt to market a title that looked dead on arrival months ago. That blog post is listed as being posted on 5/12, and MangaGamer released Fata Morgana on 5/13, they hardly released it well ahead of time and it would have been well after they realized preorder numbers were shit. If I had a dead on arrival product on my hands about to go out, I would try anything I could think of to fix it as well.

That is also not comparable with what they feel they need to include to properly cover their ass in their in game start up for Maggot Baits. They clearly feel that their standard disclaimer is not strong enough to fully cover their ass so they are creating a specific one for their title that potentially pushes legal boundaries (especially outside the US, but in jurisdictions that also buy MG products).

>>16108054
>not staying in /vn/ after the blog post went up.
So I was psychically supposed to know MG was going to spoil their own vn as a marketing ploy? How does that work? Blaming the customer is a very anti-consumer tactic.

>>16108064
They gave a warning right in the blog post. You could have just not read it.

>>16108069
People took the spoilers and posted them everywhere. You couldn't miss them prior to launch.

>>16108059
If it's only on start up then I'm not too worried about Maggot Baits, but if they also include it in a blog post prior to launch after what happened with Fata Morgana, then that's the dumbest move they could make.

>>16108066
>Blaming the customer is a very anti-consumer tactic.
Never said they were consumer friendly. And since people (did) lick up anything MG does the blog gets linked in the thread and then after that is where the spoilers happen.

>>16108090
Depends on if their lawyer says they have to publish it so potential buyers have to be aware as well.

>>16108080
I've been reading this thread every week for over 5 years and I don't know what spoilers everyone's talking about.
Maybe it's because I don't care about kusoge.

>>16108077
I don't care about what 'people' do. If you read an article that says spoiler warning you are all kinds of retarded.

>>16108106
The Spoilering Part 2: Never Gonna Be Surprised Again Forever

>>16108121
Actually yes, more retarded than that blog post.

It's all been figured out.

>tfw it was all a clever marketing ploy to cater to 4channers

So this was MG's grand master plan to market Himawari and Rance all along. Brilliant. You almost had me fooled.

>>16108151
Could you not repost your stupid shit from your shitty /vg/ thread here? It wasn't funny there, it's not funny here.

>>16108109
People definitely brought up the spoilers about Fata, but I forgot them myself since I don't really give a shit about the title. There was a bit of whining when the original blog post came up, but other than that one guy shilling Fata every thread it's not really discussed in depth much, so nobody cares.

Doddler said he was starting to do web design. Think it's for Nutaku, or will the supposedly impossible happen and MG gets a site update?

>>16108205
erogedownload is where you get MG VNs so why bother updating their own site?

>>16108238
Mylanta has a much better color scheme, so I hope so. If the color end up matching MG's blog that wouldn't be bad either.

Think they'll ever resurrect their site forum? Seems more like they got sick of dealing with it and just decided to get rid of it.

>>16108256
I wouldn't really call this a "safe space".

Are there as many as 50% of the visual novel players that own PS Vitas? You'd think that if you look at the Sharin no kuni poll.

>>16108256
Just about every retailer has its own forum. No reason they shouldn't have one. What they be without Sanahtlig and ChaosRaven giving them their expert advise? Those were the good old days.

>>16108273
They were desperate to pay such a high price for the extremely short, mediocre Root Letter. Vita owners are thirsty.

>>16108293
EOP Vita owners are thirsty, to be more precise.

>>16108272
Their old forums weren't safe space either. Thats why GH forced them to turn them off.

>>16108319
Didn't they shut their forum down shortly after Lets Player fans started showing up there to call them greedy for not letting their vns be lets played?

To be fair they don't seem to like the Steam forums for their games either.

>>16108353
Maybe loli is just so popular that Himawari was bound to be a bestseller and MG should license a ton more loli titles.

>>16108366
She's not in charge of licensing.

>>16108379
Sounds like a lie or overexaggeration. Kouryuu's the one who's translating Maggot Baits. He's likely the one who got it for us.

>>16108353
>ENIGMA not on the list

What went wrong?

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>>16108560
It's a doujin that wasn't remade for the Vita. Honestly, MG's list of recently released titles feels lackluster.

>>16108574
Well doujin is usually a good indicator in my book
Gonna need some actual opinions about it before I decide

>>16108359
Sweet Sweat already sold less than optimal due to mosaic and only one girl so they at least have the lower sales potential marked up. They just need to find how high they can go.

>>16108574
Wow! Quest Failed looks like an episodic non-Steam game. We can't get away. Everyone wants the fast money.

What is worse is that the title looks interesting.

>>16108205
I said as much in /vg/ but I believe it's for Nutaku. They're Canadian-based and have a lot of money, if he is switching his actual job over but still being involved in eroge, that's basically the place.

So this has probably been answered a thousand times but why is the Himawari version all ages?

>>16108601
Because Good Haro hates loli porn.

>>16108604
You fucks are annoying as shit.

>>16108601
Remake only comes in all ages

>>16108601
Because it's the definitive version released in Japan. It has better art and is fully voiced. The original release was a doujinshi title.
Whether the doujinshi version is preferable to you is another story, but the fact is that a newer, cleaner looking version is much more marketable, and there's no ero version of the remake, which is a PSP/PSV game.

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>>16108612

>>16108297
I just call him sahagin.

>>16108600
Then who's going to program for MG?

>>16108601
Because goo think's he's above writing porn now and went out of his way to remove it from the game.

Cafe left, Doddler's leaving, is everyone just jumping ship? Soon Nutaku will be the home of VNs.

>>16108599
When you want monster girls, you take what you get. It isn't common enough to be picky.

>>16108620
Sanahfag

>>16108652
Sonofhag

>>16108014
>Nagito
>bad luck
I'm not sure I can buy this explanation.

>>16108604
>Good Haro
More like Bad Haro amirite?

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>>16108600

Why the hell would doddler be doing anything for nutaku? I know there's a lot of cross-pollination going on with /vn/ right now, but you guys really really shouldn't listen to anything they have to say. They're even more misinformed than the vnts and come up with even crazier theories.

Doddler is literally on the opposite side of the country from nutaku. Further, kouryuu's the one that liked his ask.fm answers regarding what he's doing now(hint hint).

>>16108671
We don't, we just want to hate on something. He also lost his path to wizardy.

>>16108660
His luck switches between the two. Plane crashes in desert, but at least he won the lottery.

>>16108692
Because Nutaku has mad dosh to spread around and most people won't say no to money. It doesn't help that MG staff have said that changing their website wasn't financially possible for them repeatedly.

>>16108763

If nutaku wanted someone for web development, they could afford a lot better than doddler.

Anyone still remember the golden age of tlwiki, amaterasu, NNL and mirror moon? Do you think the scene was better off back then?

>>16108779

The scene's always been full of stupid drama. The major players are just getting paid these days is all.

>>16108779
>Do you think the scene was better off back then?
There is hardly a scene left as everyone either went legit or packed it in.

>>16108692
Why? Because they have massive amounts of cash and are primarily a web-based company?
It's not impossible for him to be working with Nutaku, although if Kouryuu did like his response then it could very well be for MG. But it's been stated by numerous employees at MG that overhauling the website isn't financially feasible. It'd be nice if they're going to redo the website, but I'll keep my expectations on check for now.

>>16108835
>It's not impossible for him to be working with Nutaku

It's not impossible for him to be working for a secret startup funded by the Illuminati to distribute worlds finest loli titles either. But it's really fucking unlikely.

Doddler's never done work for them before, nor mentioned doing so. I have serious doubts. People don't just up and start working for companies they have no connections with.

>>16108835
>stated by numerous employees at MG that overhauling the website isn't financially feasible
They could be doing it on the cheap as I imagine hiring Doddler is cheaper than a pro web developer that does it for a living.

>>16108851
>People don't just up and start working for companies they have no connections with
Bags of money can change people's minds.

>>16108858

You're trying to argue two ways. That nutaku hired doddler because he's cheap, but at the same time doddler started working for them because they offered him so much money. Surely you can see that's ridiculous right?

But no, that's not what I meant when I was talking about connections. Doddler has no connection to nutaku, so it's unlikely they're even aware of who he is.

Basically you've managed to come up with the most far-fetched solution there is. Stop drinking the water over at /vn/.

>>16108869
>That nutaku hired doddler because he's cheap, but at the same time doddler started working for them because they offered him so much money
I said MG (not Nutaku) might have hired him because he would be cheaper than a normal web dev, but at the same time I also wasn't denying that it is possible that paying lots of money could also sway him to working with Nutaku who he hasn't worked with before.
>Doddler has no connection to nutaku, so it's unlikely they're even aware of who he is
Considering he has worked with Sekai Project (which they have worked with) I am sure they at least know of him in passing meaning they know his programming skills.

>>16108888
>Considering he has worked with Sekai Project (which they have worked with) I am sure they at least know of him in passing meaning they know his programming skills.

They "worked with" sekai project by buying up exclusvity for denpasoft titles. It's a real stretch to claim they know any of the staff that worked on those titles.

>>16108895
> It's a real stretch to claim they know any of the staff that worked on those titles.
Would be pretty dumb of any company to do any deal with anyone without doing any research before hand.

>>16108908

Research doesn't involve playing the actual games and seeing who worked on them in the credits. The only people who care about the real people behind chinese power point titles are in threads like these. They just looked and saw that SP was a localization company using contract freelancers.

Another strike against this crazy theory is that Mindgeek(Nutaku) is a lot more professional, they'd contact someone on linkedin and ask them if they were interested.

So far as I can tell, the only evidence to support it is "Doddler is canadian and so is nutaku!", which is basically fuck all. Literally anyone makes more sense. I'd imagine it's mangagamer from that kouryuu like, but jast or sekai could work too.

is mahoyo ever going to be finished?

>>16108934
They don't need to play the game to find out who worked on it as they can just request the list from the company itself and plug the names in to google to get their social media profiles. I mean imagine the fallout if it turned out some neo-nazi had worked on a game and they had technically endorsed it by selling it.

All I have said is that it isn't impossible and even said that MG could have went for for him because he would be a cheap web dev.
There is nothing wrong with speculation as it is still possible, you just seem to be sperging out over it. If you had stopped at "it is very unlikely but not impossible" we would have finished this up many posts ago.

>>16108967

I don't like it when people pull speculation out of their ass, because it gets repeated and still later then assumed as fact. There should be at least some basis.

So was the fan Subahibi translation (98% edited) killed because of the official one? God I fucking hate English middlemen.

>>16109016
Direct your anger towards the translators then. Nobody else is responsible for them choosing to take the money.

>>16109023
Direct your anger at global capitalism then. Nothing else is responsible for directly dying wealth to ability to live.

>>16109023
>Subahibi
Wasn't we meant to get a proper update at some point this year? Not long left for them to say something.

>>16109029
We would all have state capitalism if it weren't for fucking russians.

>>16107215
Well what I meant by "actual professionals" was less a statement about their qualifications, and more about that they're just grabbing mainstream translators off the shelf as needed, rather than slowly picking up former fan translators that are willing to work for cheap.

>>16108967
If Doddler's always been an option, then why not overhaul before now? Unless Doddler just finished his 3 week web dev online course for dummies.

>>16108595
Isn't Quest Failed called Monster Girl Quest?

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>>16098332
>>>16108601
>Because Good Haro hates loli porn.
Dovac get off the board.

>>16109420
She called loli gross on /JP/ before.

When are we going to find out what Doddler's web design job is? Did he give an ETA?

>>16109387
>Online course
Did he really? Did he mention it in twitter? I have not kept up with doddles that much due to life stuff.

>>16109016
Well, in the sense that the fan translators started working with KeroQ in an official capacity, yes.

It's too early to say how or where it's going to be sold - there hasn't been any kind of partnership with Mangagamer or any of the usual retailers announced, and a lot of SubaHibi's ero content isn't really optional so Steam's probably out. As far as anyone knows the only westerners involved with the project are the guys at TLwiki, and as much as you might not like 'middlemen' they strike me as important to the localisation process.

>>16109498
It was just a guess. If he could've done a redesign on the cheap, then why didn't they have him do it before?

Sekai's Yuri road trip vn comes out in a week.

>>16109437
>/JP/

>>16109512
He has been pretty busy with all the porting/engine work recently. With DCIII basically done it would free up a bit of his time.

>>16109033
Herkz has been tweeting and retweeting SubaHibi stuff recently, so I guess it's not impossible we'll get an update this year

>>16109762
Hi Herkz. Sad that no one gives a shit about you?

>>16109766
yeah

>>16098748
Order Number - 237602
Order Date - 2016-11-16 09:51:59
Himawari

>>16098432
>>16098488
I'd be so much more okay with this if it wasn't for the fact that this is less like Crunchyroll or something where you're still getting the content and more like shooting fish in a barrel where you pray you don't get any censored shit and a decent translation.

Seriously, just looking at all those Sekai projects hurts

So, does anyone know what happened to the galzoo island translation? Did it die when mangagamer started doing alicesoft titles? I know the project did a lot of work, but I can't find the last patch they did for the life of me.

>>16101088
If they started actually releasing 18+ patches (they won't) and getting better translations (they won't) then yes

>>16109762
Doubt he would even be in the loop if it was. Didn't they basically take their check, hand everything over to the developer, and wash their hands of the whole thing? I don't think anyone who worked on the fan translation is involved anymore.

>>16110037
All Alicesoft fan projects are dead.

>>16110156
There is little reason to think that happened, considering the images that have been put out recently, the remarks by team have been more "we don't know yet" rather than "we are done with it" and the Japanese developer isn't going to have staff on hand to fully take over from the fan translation team.

>>16110037
Ask for it in the MG survey and they may comply.

It's unlikely, but I'm voting for it too.

>>16110574
It's quite likely with GuyZoo working for them now too. Works quite well after 5D and VI, giving exposure to the Gal Monsters.

I'm still going to ask for Ensemble stuff or Otome Domain, cause we need more trap protagonist games.

>>16110035
Sekai has so many games in their backlog it will take 4 years for them to even be halfway done.

>>16109437
What of it? She isn't the only person at MG that pushes for specific licenses. How do you explain MG having on their catalogue VNs with loli characters?

Not to mention that it was Haro who translated Ultimate Boob Wars.

What's up with there still being no myth torrent?

>>16111039
That has really low sexual content, right?
Most people play VNs for porn. The piracy scene reflects this with most uploaders focusing on porn and little else. This is true even in jpland with all-ages games like Trianthology taking forever to get uploaded (if it every did I got it from a friend).

>>16111046
No one give a shit about that trash. Its sold probabbly like 5-10 copies.

>>16111039
/vg/ already uploaded it, its on nyaa, https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2171677
Fuck BDH.

>>16111083
>Fuck this person that had nothing to do with MYTH

Anyway, you guys could post your impressions of it later so I can know whether it's worth it or not.

>>16111280
BDH ported it to the western engine upon which it's being sold. Cafe translated it which was a bigger job for sure so I wouldn't associate BDH with it too much but yeah he did do all the programming stuff for it.

>>16111083
The main issue with this torrent is all the persistent data is still in place (i.e. the character chart,the CG gallery) which is obviously all full of spoilers. Deleting the save file doesn't get rid of it.

>>16111292
You aren't deleting correct files then. Check on sagaoz what files are responsible for gallery and stuff.

>>16111292
>>16111299
>>>/vg/160331975

>>16110951
>it was Haro who translated Ultimate Boob Wars.
And what an amazing job she did as well

>>16098748
Order Number - 237635
Order Date - 2016-11-16

sonohana new generation

The Steam version of Shuffle is out, which had no advanced notice of the release date (as seems to be common for VN launches these days).

>>16111477
>which had no advanced notice of the release date
Would have thought by now that they would have learnt even minimal marketing can go a long way. Just dumping it without warning doesn't bring in any discussion and gets the release burred under the thousands of things released every day.

>still no enigma reviews on steam
G-Guys!?

>>16110951
She admitted to messing the translation for it up due to laziness. Guess she didn't care enough about the title to put effort in. That's not uncommon for nukige, but still.

>>16111566
Ehh? Even for nukige I imagine a bad translation would upset people. Do you have a source? I'd be interesting it reading what she said.

I'm hoping Rance sells well enough that MG considers selling 2 Alicesoft games a year.

>>16111581
I read it and I didn't notice any basic grammar issues. I don't think nukige players care much otherwise, unless she stuck in a bunch of memes maybe.

>>16111599
Grammar issues would fall under the editor's domain anyway. A bad translation is an inaccurate translation, a translation that reads awkwardly, has typos, etc, is a translation that just hasn't been edited properly.

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>>16110035
If you want translations that will physically hurt you, check out Shadowverse.

>>16111581
Source is archive of this thread. It's what helped cause Kouryuu to set up translation standards, so I imagine it was pretty bad.

>>16111653
This thread has freaked over cum-prisons and neighbour's fences before now, though I can still imagine there is probably some iffy translations in it.

>>16111653
That's like saying "source is a NYT issue" or something. The point of asking for a source is to see the source, not to be reassured the source exists somewhere.

"Good haro boob wars", "haro boob", etc, and didn't see anything resembling his claim.

Obligator note that asking for a source is not doubting or implying the source does not exist please don't get defensive.
>>16111661
yukii vs yuuki too

>>16111666
Corean formatting.

>>16111666
She was replying to a post when she mentioned it, so her post didn't mention the game by title. You can ask.fm her if you're curious.

>>16111708
Well, "yeah kinda" in response to "low effort" is a lot different than "messing the translation up due to laziness". Ochichin -> wiener isn't really that big of a "meme" / fake translation.

>>16111708
Then MG had to go back and fix it so it wasn't wiener every time. Poor Doddler had so much extra work to do because of that.

>>16111718
Except on /jp/ she admitted to being lazy and that Kouryuu set up standards because of her bad translation.

Low effort=lazy and she mistranslated alot of other things. MG had to hurry and patch them because the initial translation was so bad. Doddler talked about a ton of fixes they had to apply to it.

>>16111728
I hate to say this, because it's definitely going to come off wrong, but I asked for a source earlier, and so the fact you're not giving a source for more claims is a little off putting. You even just repeated the same thing the other guy said, to which I asked for a source. And yet you didn't provide a source. See why I'm a little off put?

>>16111742
You can just ask.fm her yourself.

>>16111610
Can you confirm if blonde chick have a route in this version? Really liked her.

>>16111752
Well, there's a definite difference between getting new information and backing up claims with the existing information one is referencing to exist.

>>16111756
It's not our problem that you're a newfag. It's been asked and answer in this thread some months ago.

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>>16111756
Kind of a pattern with her being lazy. Pic related.

>>16111798
Ask her yourself.

Funny thing is that MG lied about the cause of the wiener issue on their blog. Above anon showed it was Haro being a memelord, but MG's blog had a different story.

>I suppose what was the most memorable incident during Boob Wars 2 testing was what I have come to call, “The Great Wiener Incident of 2013”. Due to unforeseen communication problems, the various euphemisms used to refer to the penis were drastically weighted towards one option in particular: wiener.

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2014/03/03/testers-corner-ultimate-boob-wars-ed-vol-2/#more-6650

>>16111875
>even have anon trying to do the sales tracker
You mean an MG shill.

>>16111879
Why would MG want to give away how shit some of their games are selling? You really are desperate to lash out and call everyone a MG shill aren't you?

>>16111875
>Seems the opposite of what you'd expect.
No? I mean it's blatantly obvious that pirates are the majority of the VN community. There's a good chance there's more pirates that buyers in this thread as well they simply don't post about it.

>>16111893
It's nearly impossible to track sales numbers now that they release things so often. Of course, the weekly ranking was conveniently "broken" whenever a game they wanted to do well wasn't performing well on it.

>>16111906
You can still kinda gauge if preorders are doing well or not though spikes even if it is less reliable than it use to be (plus bundles screw things a lot).
People also still point to SteamSpy for sales data when its the creator said it is inaccurate below 10k (or something like that) and most VNs on steam struggle to break 3-4k. So sadly we have to deal with what we have at our disposal as there are no other methods of knowing, bar the company publishing the data its self.

>>16111893
It's publicity.

>>16111933
He's said that you need about 30k sales for it to be truly accurate, which is well above what most VNs get. Even SP's anime adaptations don't exceed 30k too often, and if they do, it takes a while.
That said, Haro has also said before that the numbers can be fairly accurate, but they also have some wild variation. When the margin of error is greater than the sales being listed, you know that the data is probably inaccurate. And this is the case for most VNs.

>>16111998
It can also be said that if a game is missing numbers, then it sold so poorly that Steamspy can't track it, which is a sure sign it sold like crap. Myth and that yuri OELVN they released recently have been examples of this. Of course they have adult versions, so most of their sales have been on MG's site.

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>>16112067
We all know that GH hate lolis, and because of this we have all these "wieners" added to BW as a "cute joke".

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Okay, straight from the horses mouth.
>She admitted to messing the translation for it up due to laziness.
She did a poor job due to inexperience, lack of communication in the team, and the script being poor.
>It's what helped cause Kouryuu to set up translation standards
Good Haro subsequently advocated for more communication and cooperation in the team during the localization process of games which have now been achieved.

In other words, the vibe I'm getting here is that Good Haro has admitted to doing a poor job, and people have extrapolated/added on/assumed her being lazy and intentionally doing a bad job onto that either out or malice or just because they misremembered it.

She didn't mention mistranslations here but since she said she improved those may have been an issue, it is uncertain.

>>16112099
>degenerated fujoshi
>hate lolis
Color me surprised.

>>16111611
That isn't translated, it is rewritten.

>>16112156
Exactly.

>>16112067
Who edited UBW? They clearly did a terrible job.

>>16112180
Implying old MG had editors.
Check out Succubu Soon if you want to see a terrible official TL.

>>16111933
Steamspy checks 0.1% of all accounts a day. I doubt total sales mean anything and it is all about how many days have passed with polled accounts.

You can't really trust the values unless more than 3 months have passed, at which point you got a rough estimate that can be completely wrong.

>>16112188
>they claimed an editor be going through the script simultaneously
>there was no editor all along
The ultimate trick

Okay Haro, I'm somewhat sorry for what I said. Rookie (but still lazy) mistakes happen.

>sloppy, error-riddled Japanese script
Now I want a blog post from whoever's translating Hapymaher.

>kouryuu and evo were gracious enough to give me another chance
Sounds like she was almost not contracted again because of it.

>>16112188
They've supposedly had editors since around Da Capo Innocent Finale and Da Capo 2 came out. The early process was rough and disorganized though. It was tweaked over time. Koihime Musou was mentioned as having issues in that department, but I luckily have shit grammer and can't tell for the most part.

>>16112188
I tried reading Tasty Shafts and Sandwiched by my wife and her sister. Truly terrible. It's too bad because Tasty Shafts would be a nice short nukige if its translation were better.

>>16112211
>Sounds like she was almost not contracted again because of it.
And that editor was lated booted by GH and went to work on Clannad for SP.

So, "wiener" is not a meme, so it is OK to have in an actual translation?

>>16112104
I like how she's probably too scared to post in this thread with her name because she knows people are still salty and will shit on her.

>>16112245
Wasn't that the editor that messed up No, Thank You that Haro had to go back and undo their work? That's pretty bad.

>>16112259
Yes, if it makes sense for the character.

I remember people complaining that Milles Knight of Anal Tyranny used "vag" instead of "vagina".

>>16112259
Naturally it should be pecker instead.

>>16112259
I think "bratwurst" would be better.

>>16112315
pork sword or bust

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>>16112314
Gotta love how this choice is rape her now or later.

>>16112332
Fucking her in front of the father was one of the best scenes.
Fuck, I'm getting the urge to play Sengoku again, even though I 100%'d it for the second time a few months back.

>>16112332
Doesn't matter because at the end she will end as a slut.

>>16112343
I'm tempted to read Sengoku, but I want to read them in order. And there's a good chance that MG will retranslate it.

How's Shuffle's Steam translation compared to MG's?

Nevermind looks like it got a last minute delay and is "Coming Soon" now.

Rin is now Rina in this translation.

>>16112391
Not that guy. But TakaJun's script could indeed use more than some touching up.
If it ever gets re-translated for whatever the reason I'll stay optimistic.

>>16112426
>Rin ->Rina
Da fuck?
This is giving me bad (Moenovel) vibes.

>>16112440
This about Sengoku Rance?

>>16112448
Someone on the Steam forum pointed it out. Hopefully it'll be fixed, but who knows.

>>16112461
People are overblowing this. To clarify, character's call Nerine by her nickname, Rin, which is confusing because the main character is also named Rin, and easy to confuse with Prumula's nickname of Rim. The English anime dub used Rina instead of Rin to avoid this issue as you literally can't tell their names apart without honorifics. They either are making an attempt to match the Anime version, or are not using honorifics, which would make it a requirement.

More Nutakubux incoming
http://venturebeat.com/2016/11/16/nutaku-will-invest-10-million-in-game-devs-who-put-sex-scenes-in-nsfw-games/

>>16112526
That makes sense, but Rin and Rim are are still really close.

>>16112553
Say what you will about Nutaku, but they are encouraging the creation of 18+ content in vns.

>>16112553
Mindgeek looking to ruin more industries

>>16112567
No, they're encouraging people to shoehorn shitty porn into games that aren't made around it. It's the same thing as cutting porn to make shit for Steam, and we all know how that goes.

>>16112567
They actually started to fulfill their promises to revert censorship in their online games too.
I'm starting to be a bit optimistic about this whole Nutaku-SP deal, maybe they will manage to bring at least Baldr Sky uncensored and make VNs great again.

>>16112567
Oh boy I can't wait for Sakura 100-100000

>>16112595
They were, but then had a bunch of censored characters in one of their most recent online titles...
https://twitter.com/M_Solitaire/status/793566592873406464

Of course, they blame the devs.
https://vndb.org/t8359/2#41

>>16112610

Sanahtlig is our guy, watching out for dirty censorship when the corporate overlords at Nutaku try and pull a fast one over us.

>>16112610
No, I mean after that exchange, this stuff: >>16106948 >>16106968
It was originally promised over year ago, and we already lost any hope, but suddenly it happened.

>>16112626
It's a start, but Aigis has over 30 units still mia.

>>16112553
where do the bux come from?

>>16112671
Pornhub

>>16112671
1. Add cute girls to gacha every two weeks
2. Highest rarity has 0.3% chance per roll
3. Each roll costs 5$
4. There are dozens of highest rarity girls, making chance of rolling specific one below 0.01%
5. Weeaboo autists with too much money keep spending thousands to get that one waifu they wanted

>>16112633

The bigger thing is that Nutaku manages the games its localized from DMM completely differently.

Japanese-run mobage compared to their Western counterparts are far, far more generous. They give out random rewards more often, consistently run events with low-hanging rewards to ease play experience, and I think in some cases have flat out increased droprates. Most recently I believe Nutaku's Flower Knight Girl was heavily criticized as being "miserable to f2p, play the Japanese version if you insist on it" due to huge droughts of events not being active, where in Japan's DMM version there was practically never not an event running.

Western f2p premium model mindset is designed around short-term profits to look good to investors, fishing for whales while driving away the unwashed plebeians of f2poors. This looks good on the numbers until a year, maybe two years later when even the whales have abandoned the game for greener pastures chasing a new game with new f2plebeians to lord their wallets over. Then the company comes to their investors begging on their knees to be given more money to design a new game since the last one was so successful and their game dying in a relative heartbeat is just "the nature cycle of these things, you must understand", ignoring that the main flagship Japanese mobage have maintained steady, paying playerbases since their launch for at this point approaching a half decade on end with player-friendly practices.

>>16112688
Dude, what shit did you smoke before writing this post?
Nutaku FKG had back-to-back events since launch, and actually has more "good shit for free" campaigns than DMM. DMM offers more free premium currency, but they don't do these "gold ticket for 11 roll" campaigns, so in terms of getting cool units, they are same as last checkup between dmm and nutaku players indicated.
FKG is their best-managed game.

>>16112706

>Nutaku FKG was actually good on release

That's funny, I heard the exact opposite from someone who had tried it to see if it might be worth swapping to for his own EOP sanity away from the JP version on DMM. "Key units missing, not enough events, literal missing gameplay elements" were just a few of them.

I can accept that it's entirely possible he was just being salty over being used to having a nice established base of stuff he'd paid for and then making the jolt over to trying to gun it f2p from a new account on a new game launch, but I feel that for him to complain about "the English version" being "horribly mismanaged" is separate from that, though.

>>16112567
How much are you willing to bet they only support large boobs games?

>>16112731
I doubt he even tried to play it. I'm playing DMM FKG since launch and watching nutaku version cause we share same thread with them on /jp/, and nutaku version is exactly same in terms of units/events. Only difference is that DMM doing "free currency for xxx users or y season" while nutaku is doing "spend xxx currency and get guaranteed y rarity unit".

>>16112739

>Only difference is that DMM doing "free currency for xxx users or y season" while nutaku is doing "spend xxx currency and get guaranteed y rarity unit".

See, right there, that sounds a lot like screwing over f2ps and pushing people to spend money. The former sounds like free shit for everyone and the latter sounds like it makes the "rich richer" and polarizes those who spend money and those who just want to play the game and be social with others who do. Or am I misunderstanding something?

>>16112743
No, gacha rates are very bad, so "11 roll + 1 guaranteed gold" is more or less same in the end as "2 x 11 rolls", in both cases you get 1 gold.

>>16112688
The Asian way of doing these games are far more successful than the way the west is trying to do greedy f2p shit. That I am kind of surprised the west hasn't caught on to it yet.

They are indeed exceedingly generous. Or at the very it looks like it initially.
They shower you in exclusive content and premium rewards, so you always feel like you acquire something special feeding your sense of accomplishment. Getting you hooked on the game. And they keep this up for a really long time too, really getting you hooked.
But it's only then you start to slowly notice that what you're doing isn't quite good enough to get the same amount of exclusive content and premium rewards anymore. Because the business dictates that the more successful you are, the tougher it is to succeed. But it's made to be so subtle that you are unlikely to realize it at first.
And it's at that time people turn to actually spending money on the game, in order to keep up with the success that they've grown themselves accustomed to. And at that point, the money ought to make them somewhat more successful than they ever were before, making it feel like an upgrade instead of a downgrade. And that's how they win. Hordes upon hordes of eternally hooked people.

The typical western almost exclusively hinges on catching whales, and will outright push away non-spending players if necessary. Instead of creating addicts from scratch.

By the end of the day though I hope we can all agree upon these types of games being pure evil no matter your business model.

>>16112748

You should play GBF sometime. The developers there keep accidentally making the (free, farmable-only) drops from events redefine the optimal builds.

If they have an agenda to slowly turn the screw on their playerbase they're terrible at it.

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Could someone translate this?
It's supposedly about a love hotel.

>>16112971
Nothing interesting. I'd TL it no problem but I haven't read DR2 so I may miss some nuance regarding that. I will say that it says the setting is a school just like the first game, but it's pretty big and has a love hotel and "ruins".

Cucumber editor is posting about his editing Kuroinu. Something about cocoa, anus, and whips.

>>16112748
In my opinion the games should be split up. Casual and serious. For example card games could let you have a casual deck and a serious deck. Casual deck won't work in tournaments, but you can use it to play unranked PvP and such. Serious deck would be for ranked stuff, and also offer transfering cards over to the casual deck in case you want to do both collecting and playing.

Buying for the casual deck would be non-random and cheap, while serious would be gacha and in the long run cost more to get specific cards.

Suddenly the game can be enjoyed by everyone, because it doesn't cost a fortune to be a card collector just because cards can also be strong in tournaments.

Same for RPGs online. Cheap dress up clothing, and then more expensive copies that give a little stat boost or add a little subtitle to your name. So you can either dress up to look cute, or go for being a special snowflake with expensive clothes.

It seems like an obvious way to get more players, and not make them quit in monetary frustration.

>>16112971
Here. Bust out that dictionary!

新たな舞台は「才囚学園」！！
モノクマチェック！！

「１」の舞台は閉鎖された学園の「希望ヶ峰学園」で、「２」の舞台は南の島のような「ジャバウォック島」だった。そして今回は「才囚《さいしゅう》学園」という学校が舞台。学校という点では「１」と同じだが、ラブホテルのような施設があったり、遺跡のような建物があったりと、かなり規模は大きいようだ。また、超高級の才能を持つ高校生たちが幽閉されるという展開は、従来のシリーズを踏襲。いったい誰がなんの目的で、彼らにコロシアイを強いているのだろうか？

>>16112420

>Nevermind looks like it got a last minute delay and is "Coming Soon" now.

They hadn't mentioned Shuffle being released on their social media stuff, and they were only through 4 of the 7 character introductions on the Steam page. I am guessing they had never intended to release it today but screwed up somehow

>>16113181
Sounds like 16th December then, and just wrong month clicked. Would give a few more weeks of pushing characters.

>>16113196
They have been clear, even recently, that they want a November release. Although I suppose the upcoming Autumn sale could throw a wrench into that.

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>>16098332
>>>16112553
>Say what you will about Nutaku, but they are encouraging the creation of 18+ content in vns.
Okay Shiro.

>>16113181
>>16113196
Is this how MG accidently released one of the Higurashi chapters early?

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>>16113012
>but I haven't read DR2
Why the hell not? DR2 is fantastic. So much better than the first game.

>>16113348
Mainly just cause it doesn't seem too interesting. Way more style over substance from what I've seen.

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>>16113360
Play V3. It's shaping up to be insane with a ton of characters that are liars.

>>16113387
Don't got a PSV or IV unfortunately.

>>16113360
The cases in DR2 are superior to DR1, the characters are arguable (although I think they're better) and the overall story and plot twists are worse.
Case 5 in DR2 is easily the best case in the series.

DR is /v/-tier garbage, please stop talking about it.

>>16112683
I can't believe there are enough whales to justify all the money Nutaku is throwing around.

>>16113594
You'd be surprised.
I tried out one of shittiest nutaku games once, peropero saimin. You are just clicking slot machine there for many hours and get shitty low-res hcg w/out text as reward, but before I came back to senses, I spent 100$ trying to max some events. Various forums where nutaku games are discussed have many people who spend thousands on each gacha update.

>>16112553
From their blog post on the subject

>We’ll pay the cost (in full) to produce the adult content and incorporate it into their title

Thus it seems like the deal they offer to Sekai and others (probably for both their initial $2 million and this new $10 million) is to make it not cost anything extra to release an 18+ version compared to releasing a Steam version.

>>16113148
A new stage, "saishuu school"!
Thing bear check!

A stage of "1" was "request KE back school" of a closed school, and a stage of "2" was JABAWOKKU island" like a southern island. And the school which calls this time "saishuu <<SAI SHUU>> school" is a stage. It's same as "1" by a point as school, there are facilities like a love hotel, and there is a building like remains, and if, it seems quite large-scale. The development to which high school students with the supreme ability are confined follows a conventional series. Who is on earth pressing them for KOROSHIAI at what destination?

>>16113444
I'm sure it will be released on PC too. The other 2 mainline games are on Steam.

So how's Enigma? Trying to decide if I should pick it up with my extra Steambux or save them for HImawari.

>>16114366
I've only done one ending, and i'm pretty sure it was one of the bad endings. It took about 3 hours, so naturally everything feels fairly rushed. The relationships seem like they form to fast, but I guess that should be a given due to its length. I'm fairly sure this would be fixed after reading more routes and getting to know the character better(There are 19 if I remember right,) The slice of life parts are maximum comfy though. I'd recommend it, it is a fairly nice read. Though if you can't get Himawari if you buy this, just wait for Himawari

>>16114638
I can afford both, I can just get Enigma basically for free or Himawari for super cheap, and I'm not sold on Enigma yet but it's not like buying it will bankrupt me.

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>>16114683
>Enigma
it's fujob8

>>16114721
I'm the one who asked that question, I would be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed about the lack of romance, but it's still a nice read. God damn I sound like a shill.

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>>16113603
>Spending thousands each gacha update

These are what we call lolcows.

Yumehaven did an update about the Shuffle release, basically confirming they screwed up the release date (although they also said it is still scheduled for a November release).

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tokyootakumode/sharin-no-kuni-a-visual-novel-localization-project/posts/1740150

Sharin no Kuni launches Nov 21st.

>>16116136
They switched the Vita and fandisc epilogues, which probably works out for the best, since a Vita boost would likely fund the epilogues as well.

>>16116136
>All Kickstarter backers will receive the 18+ patch (planned to be sold for $13) absolutely free, so backing the campaign is the best way to get the full Sharin no Kuni experience!
>* Updated information: only contributions with a reward tier selected, or a donation of $20 or more, will be eligible to receive the free patch. Donation-only contributions under $20 will not be eligible.

>>16116772
Well, at least 20$ for a full VN (+18 patch) it's pretty reasonable, even for 30$ would be worth.

>>16116136
kek. Sekai is so associated with kickstarters that some of the backers think they're behind this kickstarter.

>Plus, even if we don't reach the bonus chapter stretch, I'd bet dollars-to-donuts that Sekai will release the bonus chapters anyway...it's just that they'll be paid DLC.