Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

Sekai/Denpa
>Memory's Dogma - Code:01 November 4th release
>Nenokami - Part 2 69.61% translated
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title Steam released, uncut editing nearly complete, 3rd 75% translated
2236 A.D. - 100% translated, ongoing engine/QA work
>Maitetsu - 44.95% translated
Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 100% translated, ongoing engine/QA work
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
WEE 3 - 100% translated, beta out shortly
>Chrono Clock - 42.44% translated, kickstarted finished
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
>Tenshin Ranman - 60.46% translated
Darekoi - 100% translated
Wagamama High Spec - 100% translated. Editing/Engine work ongoing
>Koikuma - 10.49% translated
Hoshizora no Memoria - 45% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - In QA
SakuSaku - In QA
Baldr Sky - Picked up both 1 and 2
Fatal Twelve - Picked up
Project Lux - Picked up
Her and Her and My 7 Days - Picked up
Girls in Glasses - Picked up


Frontwing
>Corona Blossom - Vol 2 October 27th release
>Grisaia no Senritsu - 2016 release
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter halted, will be restarted
Island - Picked up


Visual Arts
Little Busters - Picked up
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
>Muv Luv - Released, uncut patch in November
Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
>Muv-Luv Photonflowers - Translation started
>Muv-Luv Photonmelodies - To follow Photonflowers
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Collar x Malice - 2017 release
Period Cube - 2017 release
Bad Apple Wars - 2017 release
Code: Realize fandisc - Picked up


Fruitbat
Enigma - 100% translated, in editing, Winter release
Hakoniwa no Gakuen - 15% translated, Spring 2017 release
Seven Days - Late 2017 release


Other
>Wild Romance - Released
Root Letter - 10/28 release
>Shuffle - PC port of PS2 version scheduled for a November release
Steins;Gate 0 - 2016 release
Dies irae - Announced, Kickstarter planned
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common/Mari/Calen/4 Bonus routes translated, Aoi 15%, March 2017 release
Taisho Alice - Vol 1 fully translated, all 4 volumes to be translated, crowdfunding plans scrapped
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
>Short Whirlpool title scheduled for Spring
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>Sayonara wo Oshiete

The artwork in the screenshots got me interested ever since the project was dead. It's good to see Cafe making some progress on it. Not expecting anything within the next 6-12 months though..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=778550587

Hello Charlotte seems good. Just found it earlier.

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As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.

So, wondering if Good Haro has any information on Myth. Apparently Myth contains the prequel game Aguni inside it as well, as it's apparently essential to reading Myth, but it's the kinetic version of it with no choices.

Will the MangaGamer version of it be the same, or will you be able to fuse the complete version of Aguni into Myth, ala the Frankensteining of Princess Evangile you guys did?

Any update on Wild Romance?

>>16007545
>>Wild Romance - Released

>Wild Romance - Released

Reading is hard or what?

>>16006896
>Chrono Clock - 42.44%
release in january 2017 right?

>>16007570

Common sense would dictate that he means on the 18+ front.

>>16007570
Dude he is talking about the 18+. And even the translation. They said they will do it but we do not know if they updated on that

>>16007684
Speaking of which, anyone checked out the all-ages version? What's it like when a nukige has the majority of its content removed? Some five minute romp?

What the fuck is taking all these fan translators to translate freaking Yosuga no Sora which is like what, 15% left? Its been sitting there literally forever. Fucking hicks man.

>>16007756
I have some experience with fan translating VNs. Really it comes down to translating being a largely negative experience - time consuming and not fun - so it's not something you really feel encouraged to do. So, if I had to guess, they're just not doing it because they don't feel like it.

>>16008091
>>16008022
>>16008007
>>16007991
Keep up the off-topic, dudesters.

>>16008124
I don't think this faggot's random conversations are particularly on-topic to the discussion of VN translations and localization.

>>16007725
It's terrible. They even left out non-H scene lines, so some of the scenes are confusing. And it seems deliberate, since at times they then summarized in text the text that was omitted. Were they trying to cut the word count down or something?

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>>16006894
>Sayonara wo Oshiete - 4953/12951 (38.24%) lines translated

I've been checking everyday for an update.

>>16008820
So the most horrendous butchering ever then? Guess they just hack it up into something within all-ages limit without consideration for making sense.

Gonna bet that Koikuma is going to end up like that too.

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>>16008903
There's no way around butchering Koikuma if they want to get it on steam.

The discussion around Wild Romance is basically that pretty much everyone wants the 18+ version as either a patch and/or an official 18+ release, but some people are willing to pay for a patch and others think the patch should be free, since the base game is sold for $10.

>>16008967
They hopefully have a better idea of what to do than Norn.They need 18+ patch day one, and to price the base game high enough, since most Steam cheapskates don't want to pay for 18+ patches.

>>16008993
I don't intend to play or buy this game myself, 18+ patch or no, but with its price so low and the 18+ content obviously making up a larger portion of the text/CGs than the current version, I don't think there's any problem with them charging $10 for the patch or just releasing a proper full version for $20 or whatever they decide.
There's no way they'd put the effort into translating it just to release it for free, that's for sure. If it isn't done already, it'd be a complete waste of resources to TL the adult content, release it for free, and hope people buy it off Steam now that it's complete. Seems like this entire release is one big mess.

>>16009011
The problem is that people feel ripped off if they get charged for an 18+ patch, no matter the amount of content. They will most likely buy all-ages and pirate the patch, similar to Karakara.

>>16009011
http://www.dlsite.com/ecchi-eng/work/=/product_id/RE179494.html
20 bucks would make sense, considering that's roughly what the jp version is sold for.

>>16008903
>>16008967
Wild Romance Steam ver. is a preview of what Koikuma Steam ver. will be.

>>16009005
It has nothing to do with not wanting to pay for 18+ patches. It is about not wanting to be the person paying for the Steam game discount so others get it cheap.

If Steam games are listed at 50 dollars, I won't mind too much to spend 10 dollars on a patch. At least I know nobody got a discount on my expense.

>>16009359
The Steam version is cheap because it's missing half its content. The full version will cost more because it's like a major expansion.

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>Yosuga no Sora
>last update 3 months ago
>took 6 months to increase by a quarter of a percent

>>16009472
Sora route is translated and that is all that really matters anyway.

>>16009521
My autism prevents me from playing a VN I can't/won't 100%.

>>16009588
Thank goodness my apathy and frustration lets me drop a vn I don't like within several hours.

>>16009413
Half the content my ass. Not to mention it contains 100% of what an all-ages buyer wants.

It is just too convenient. It is like if you don't like dogs, but like cats. So someone gets you a cat and says "You get 50% discount because it isn't a dog".

I for one would be thrilled if everyone gave me 50% off every time they offered me items I want to buy, but requested full price if I didn't intend to buy it.

>>16009624
>Half the content my ass.
I don't see how it benefits your point to correct "half the content" to more like 80% of CGs

>>16009624
Based on your formatting, you're a corean dog and no one should reply to your bullshit.

>>16009752
Well, make up your mind. Do you play VNs for the CG or the script? Because if you buy all-ages for CG you are retarded, and if you buy it for script then it is less than 10% you are missing.

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>>16009813
>Well, make up your mind.
Hmm? I don't remember stating anything about playing for the script before. Putting that aside
1 - Pic related, it's missing just over half the script too
2 - You don't play VNs "for the script" OR "for the CG", both are fundamental components of the VNs, you play them for both. If one's missing a ton, then the content is missing a ton even if the other components were untouched though that is not the case here.

>>16009624
It's a nukige, so most of it is H scenes. And secondly this release left out sections of normal text not related to the H scenes. The version they're selling is a wreck.

>>16009624
So you would read a 50 page book, even if the original had 100 pages but it was censored so it can be at your local store/library?

>>16009893
Sigh.

Seems like this discussion is a falure. I've kept talking about all-ages in general and people seem to have replied to me on specific game. No wonder we don't see eye to eye when we talk about different things.

>>16009940
>and people seem to have replied to me on specific game
The fact you quoted "it's less than 10%", and there are real cases showing it can and will be far more, makes your point moot even if in the general case.
Not to mention, if you butt into a discussion about a game, you can expect people to thinking you're talking about that game. Check the post you replied to:
>The Steam version is cheap because it's missing half its content.
*THE* Steam version. Not "Any Steam version for any game".

>>16009904
Is reading hard? The precondition to that is that the book has 50 pages of worthless content that I wouldn't want to waste my time on.

For example, if it was 50 pages of pictures on fish.

>>16009973
Don't buy fishing journals and marine biology encyclopedias if you don't like pictures of fish.

>>16010004
This is a good post.
The all-ages content of the game isn't worthwhile on its own, since the whole game is built around sex (download Kimomen demo Harem Guild and see how worthwhile the story is with all the sex scrubbed out). So, in this case, the 50 pages being removed, really would be like buying a Marine Biology visual encyclopedia, with all the images and graphs and so on removed, defeating not only the purpose of buying it in the first place, but questioning why one would buy a marine biology visual encyclopedia if they don't care about marine biology.

>>16009957
I can understand this anonymous board confuse you, but I assure you the person you think I replied to is a person who replied to me after I replied to >>16009005

So I was in the middle of a "all patches" discussion, and expected the reply to be general. And in the same way he didn't say "Any steam game" he didn't say "This specific steam game". THE steam version can be either specific or general.

>>16010004
In this case it was Finding Nemo with the story in 50 pages and then 50 pages of Dory masturbating. And I have terrible fish porn taste.

>>16010093
That's an insult to Finding Nemo, you'll find no humour or adventure in this Norn title.

>>16010051
I note that you avoid facing the fact that your 10% figure being bullshit destroys your post. Not very subtle.

>>16010163
You want meaningless replies? Sure.

10% was my entirely personal estimate of how much of the script in Muv-Luv, Grisaia, ChuSingura, Corona Blossom, Cho Dengeki Stryker, Princess Evangile was porn.

I'm biased because I'd like to think people who buy all-ages games get something out of the games, and they aren't all 50-90% porn.

PS. I got 50-90% porn through a random number picking. Just so you don't have to request a reply again.

>>16010264
>Just so you don't have to request a reply again.
I don't need to, by straight up admitting you fabricate statistics to suit your point, you defeat yourself without any more replies necessary.

>>16010264

I'm not going to argue that all ages releases can't be worth playing (although from what you list I would argue that the edits in ChuSinGura and Grisaia in particular make them somewhat lackluster compared to the uncut releases of the titles you listed, although both could be enjoyable for one who is not comparing the versions, which would not be the case for people in this thread). Chrono Clock and Corona Blossom in particular has the H-content there as an extra, rather than needing to be remove from the main game, so the Steam release is complete aside from those extras. There are also cases where the all ages version is superior, you will be hard pressed to find a large number of complaints about Himawari and the additional content in the all ages release of Dies Irae is quite significant compared to a couple minor (though bullshit) edits and the limited H content.

However Wild Romance is an abysmal release by any measure. It was a low budget nukige in Japan where H-scenes made up the majority of the script, and brought over in a low effort attempt to cash in on the Steam rush, leaving a mess that isn't remotely worth playing. It's not like Nekopara or Corona Blossom, where you have something that is decent even if you are solely judging on the steam release, it was mediocre originally and the cuts took away the only appealing aspect. Shuffle was also was announced this week as a PS2 port, as opposed to the vastly superior Essence+ release, so that the localization company wouldn't run into porn. In both cases, the need to pander to a Steam audience without plans of an uncut release will lead to significantly inferior releases.

>>16010380
Arguing would be a waste of time because I think just like everyone else here.

I've simply stated I find it weird that people who want the porn removed, get a discount for having their wish come true.

It is like if you are pro censorship, you should be rewarded. If you are against censorship, you should be punished.

>>16010440
It's more that the non-H versions can be significantly shorter than their adult counterpart, and that the non-H version is considered inferior to the adult version in general.

Any news on SubaHibi?

It seems like orc castle has quietly gone on to be morningstars most successful translated title(on mangagamer and off). I guess they'll be looking to do more gameplay stuff in the future.

>>16010837
Not since 2015

>>16011351

That's what I thought. Thanks.

I want to kill myself.

>>16010440
Well, a book with less pages would be cheaper right? You obviously charge more money for the more complete version.

>>16011436
Bad comparison. You don't have two different books. You have one with half of the pages torn out.

>>16011461

No, that's a bad comparison. By cutting out the porn, there's literally less to translate. It's not like they translated the entire thing and decided to cut the porn after. His comparison is the more apt one, you take a book, decide a certain amount of content is unnecessary and then you save on printing costs because of it.

>>16011561
The act of not translating is what he's comparing to ripping pages out

>>16011570

And it is a poor comparison to do so. You'd have to pay someone to tear out the pages. You don't have to pay someone to not translate.

>>16011594
I believe his perspective is from a consumer. To him the pages are torn out.

>>16011561
Only translating parts of a book makes the content incomplete, and an incomplete book isn't worth reading.

>>16011561
>implying that there are much to translate in porn scenes

>>16011436
Also in case you didn't know, books' prices and value is determined by its content and demand of the buyers and usually have very less to do with the number of pages of a book.

>>16011597
This argument is starting to be like Schroedinger's Cat.

>>16011594
You do realize it does take somebody to read through the story and pick out the porn scenes, right?
In a sense, you are paying for content checkers to go through the work before any translating work is done.
Just like how the "unwanted content" of a book doesn't just fall out of the book by itself.

>>16011594
You do have to pay someone to go in and remove the porn scenes, they don't magically stop existing on their own. Granted the effort needed to do that is absolutely minuscule compared to actually translating, but that also applies to his example. The effort in just ripping out a bunch of pages, or even easier, deleting the relevant pages from the final copy before printing copies out, is likewise minuscule compared to actually writing/translating what should have been there.

>>16011623

You're stretching this metaphor to the point of absurdity. In order to translate it or not translate it, it would be required to read it regardless. "content checking" does not factor in.

I don't even know what you guys are arguing about anymore.

>>16011651
How apt metaphors are.
I think this is a valuable discussion at heart but I don't know if this particular discussion is doing much good.

>>16011619
How so? Please explain.

>>16011639
Are you saying translators now has to perform both the role of a translator and someone who determines which content is kept or rejected?
I believe a content checker usually isn't qualified as a translator while translators aren't qualified as content checkers and so they will still need content checkers.

>>16011695

Anonymous, you've taken this metaphor too far for it to be relevant anymore. At the end of the day, the situation is simple. They only had to pay to translate half the game, ergo it's cheaper.

>>16011714
>They only had to pay to translate half the game, ergo it's cheaper.
I think there's a factor you're missing here. The game is 113kb~ of text. If I had to estimate, that'd be around three to four thousand lines of text, and around $1,000-$1,500 to TL. Cutting that in half leads us with $500-$750 to TL without porn. The price of the game is $9. Using simple mathematics, one can see that it would take only 70* sales to recuperate the additional cost of translating the porn, 78 if you account for the -10% off sale.
In other words - you're arguing that they based the price of the game on how expensive the translation was. However, that would require them to be estimating 78 sales to be both significant to their income AND that porn wouldn't lead to an additional 78 sales. I find that hard to believe, given how small the numbers are. The far more logical assumption to make is that they never intended to translate porn nor did they factor that into the costs. They wanted it on steam, so they cut out what wouldn't fit on steam, and sold for how much they expected people would pay.

>>16011736

I believe the far more logical assumption to make would be that they wanted it on steam, realized that it would require cutting half the game, and thus priced it at accordingly, as the japanese version is 2,100円 aka $20.

>>16011799
That logic requires one to believe that their sales model revolves around 70 being a very significant sales number, which just doesn't hold up. You're getting stuck on "half content, half price" even though when you really look at it and think, that doesn't make sense, especially since over far more than half CGs were cut which isn't reflected in the price. The pricing model is more likely a reflection of them matching Nekopara in the west - it's no secret that Japanese games are largely considered overpriced by the Western market, so they priced it at what is considered acceptable here.

>>16011799
>>16011810
I was confused when writing that post and realized why just now. You (or someone else) specifically said:
>They only had to pay to translate half the game, ergo it's cheaper.
To which I made my response. Your response to my post "shifted the goalpost" so to speak, away from "it's cheaper because they payed less for the TL", to "it's cheaper because they believe fair pricing is something a corporation should do".

>>16011818

Anonymous, I'm not trying to shift any goalpost. The original point of this argument was "A book with less content would naturally be cheaper" before it devolved into a ridiculous metaphor with people being paid to content check and tear out pages.

They put half the game on steam, for half the price of the full version, and paid half as much to translate it.

>>16011844
>I'm not trying to shift any goalpost
Well, my whole reply was in response to a particular point, and then your response completely discarded that point to make a new one which was fairly confusing and pretty much the definition of shifting a goalpost.

A VN with less content would not naturally be cheaper, actually. In the digital era, the length of something has little impact on the cost. Price is reflected from the equilibrium chart, not length of the game. Now, length is certainly a FACTOR, definitely, absolutely, but the fact that length is a FACTOR does not mean it is the *DETERMINING* factor. That's why I said you (or someone) was getting stuck on "half content, half price" - it may sound nice, but it is by no means the definite, ultimate logic. Again, doubly so because more than half the content was removed anyway.

>>16011857
>In the digital era, the length of something has little impact on the cost.

It has impact on a creators perception of what the price should be.

If we're to ignore that point, then all arguments regarding pricing go out the window, as digital media might as well be priced for pennies.

>>16011862
>If we're to ignore that point
>Now, length is certainly a FACTOR, definitely, absolutely, but the fact that length is a FACTOR does not mean it is the *DETERMINING* factor. That's why I said you (or someone) was getting stuck on "half content, half price" - it may sound nice, but it is by no means the definite, ultimate logic.

I apologize for my absurd metaphors in my previous posts.

Like >>16011857 said, I mentioned in the 3rd part of >>16011613. I know it's another one of the "book metaphors" but this is very true in today's markets.

>>16011862
It has an impact but it isn't the only factor like what the anon said. It is like why a coloring book could cost more than a workbook that is much thick and why textbooks cost so much more than even a similarly thick novel.

>>16011869

By dismissing that as the primary factor, we're faced with the cold truth that all digital pricing is completely arbitrary(or, more accurately "as much as they think the market will allow") and that objectively we're all paying too much for digital media. Ergo, there's no footing for an argument over price differences in the first place.

>>16011910
It is true that digital pricing is largely arbitrary, but you're taking that too far. They DO need to recuperate production costs, and they DO want as much money as possible (usually), so we can figure pricing from that angle. How much much did it cost to make the game (in this case, the translation)? What pricing model gives them the most money? And so on and so on. If you look at it from the company's perspective, cutting over half the content is a means to get it on steam (to ensure more sales) and the price is set around Nekopara's because that sold a lot. Simple as that. The porn wasn't even considered because they want money and they believe Steam to be the best place to get money. Sekai Project did state that Nekopara would have been in a much much worse spot if they didn't have it on steam and only had it on Denpa.

>>16011919
>If you look at it from the company's perspective, cutting over half the content is a means to get it on steam (to ensure more sales) and the price is set around Nekopara's because that sold a lot. Simple as that.

As I said, If one follows this argument then there is no footing for an argument to made over pricing differences. One cannot argue about something being cheaper on steam being an "unfair discount" when it only exists at that price on steam to capture a larger market with a gutted version.

>>16011958
Oh, I honestly didn't understand what you meant when you kept saying "footing for an argument".

>>16011958
The problem is that the adult patches only exist to capture an even broader Steam market. Which means you haver zero argument for a price difference since it is the same cheapskates and the same reason you discounted to begin with.

Games like the Norn one could be an exception of course. But far many seem to see it as a rule.

>>16012116
>The problem is that the adult patches only exist to capture an even broader Steam market.

On the contrary, there is literally every reason. If we're to accept the argument that content has little bearing on price, then pricing depends on the market. By pricing a patch, one is able to achieve the exposure of steam while selling a market-priced gutted version and allowing the market who desires the full version to pay the true price. It only makes sense(ignoring the part where people just leak the patches, but that's technically illegal). There is footing for an argument to claim this is unfair, but in order to do so, one must agree that content is a significant factor in price. If one is to do so, it falters in this instance as it's literally half the content. It may be a valid argument for titles with more skewed cut-content-to-price ratios.

>>16012370
>There is footing for an argument to claim this is unfair
It would be helpful if you could elaborate on this "footing for an argument" claim.
What is this "footing"?

This is most retarded discussion I ever seen here.

>>16012429

To be able to make the argument without contradicting yourself.

>>16011958
Please explain what you meant by an "unfair discount". After reading your post numerous times, I managed to understand everything other than that phrase.

>>16011961
>footing for an argument
I believe the anon meant to say "...then there's no valid reason/argument for the price differences." Footing as in a solid footing/stance or ,in this case, a valid/strong reason.

>>16012458

It refers way back to where
>>16010440
finds it unfair that the steam version is cheaper

>>16012370
The thing is, content ISN'T the significant factor in determining the price of a product. If econ classes taught me anything, it's that prices are determined by the cost to produce the products and how much the consumers are willing to pay or the "worth"/value to the buyers. (off topic example, like how brand name products are smaller and priced higher than ,say, the supermarket brand. It is because the buyers value the brand name highly and are willing to pay for it, be it for the fame, the trust, the assurance, packaging, or etc...)

I digress. The important concept here and my point is that: CONTENT =/= PRICE. It is "how much value the product is to the buyers (how much buyers are willing to pay)" (and how much it cost to produce) = price.

In my opinion, it is fair to push out paid patches. Instead, I question the existence of gutted versions, but if that serves a reason (i.e. increased market exposure) then I got nothing to say.

So, I'm not sure why you say it's unfair at all.

>>16012525
>So, I'm not sure why you say it's unfair at all.

I'm the one that's saying that saying it's unfair is a losing argument.
In
>>16012370
I just state that it may be an argument that one could make in other circumstances and it wouldn't be a contradiction. In the current instance I don't think it works either though since it's literally half the content.

please stop.

>>16012560

Want to talk about how sharin no kuni's kickstarter still hasn't launched instead? And how if they don't launch it soon, they're going to have a kickstarter that ends in december(where kickstarters tend to fail)?

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If you're someone that for some godforsaken reason wants vita ports of shit, here's an interesting twit for speculation. That's frontwing's PR guy.

>>16012565
They better be launching it beginning of next month otherwise they are SOL!.

>>16012622

Unless they seriously cut the asking price they're SOL no matter when they launch.

>>16012622
>>16012644
SOL?

>>16012715

If you're an ESL, it would be wise to learn how to google [acronym] acronym for the definition of unfamiliar acronyms.

Although in this instance I'll permit that the first result is the rather amusing "Sadly Outta Luck", which while it would convey the meaning the same, is not entirely correct. One only needs scroll down to the second result to see an urban dictionary definition for the real thing.

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>>16012715
Yes, Sol.

Why is the western vn community so dead?

>Complains about censoring and mtl

>Supporting already translated novels like clannad,grisaia 1,g-senjou, muv luv alternative, Ryu7 shit...

>Only discuss about moege and nukiges because there isn't any decent release in three years.

>When you enter a chinese forum, there is a lot of discussions about kamiges.

>Oversaturation of oevl,moege and CENSORED NUKIGE on steam.

>Nekopara is considered a masterpiece in the western scene.

>>16013073
fuck off.

>>16013087
He's right you know.

>>16013073
>Complains about "censoring" and mtl
>Oversaturation of oevl,moege and "CENSORED" NUKIGE on steam.
Well, you also seem one of these who complain about other bitching meanwhile you also complain about the same

>>16012525
MG has already said that a major factor in how they price a vn is the amount of content it has.

>>16013093
Fata Morgana was good. And Rance 6 by the end if the year.

>>16013250
Fata Morgana was dogshit.

>>16013250
Fata Morgana is a cheap doujin, not a "good VN".

Can Yuki autist save us from this?

Can someone inform me about how to play higurashi/umineko no naru koro ni? Skould I play higurashi then higurashi kai and then umineko or what?

>>16013364
Fuck no.

>>16013479
Yes play higurashi first.

This thread is somehow worse than /vn/ this week.

>>16013073
What happened to subashitty, baldr sky and muramasa?
3years ago everyone was saying how they are going to save the western scene? Are they still not out yet?

>>16013497
No word on Muramasa, Subahibi is in limbo and Baldr Sky won't be finished for another 5 years most likely.

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>>16013467
This witch looks familiar.

>>16013492
should I download mangagamer version and apply the patches for the sprites? Or there are other ways?

>>16013508
Would've been a kamige if they made it like this.

>>16013364
Yuuki

>>16013467
But do they mean Kantou and Kansai or 1st world and 2nd world?

>>16013529
MG has the only English translation of it, so yes. Make sure it's the Steam version.

Is Grisaia really worth reading? It sounds like the common route is an absurd amount of slice of life comedy, while the heroine routes are over the top drama. It just feels like something that will come off as ridiculous rather than impactful.

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>>16013742
The common route is fun most of the time so yeah, I can say that is worth reading at least one time

>>16013742
Heroine routes are hit or miss, depends on how much you like a particular girl.
Common route is what gets most of the praise. Grisaia really isn't that different from a normal moege, it's just heavier and the protagonist is a lot more proactive than the average high school boy.

>>16013742
No, the common route drags forever and is nothing more than a pile of boring, unfunny garbage.

>>16013764
I'm pretty sure your screenshot accounts for 50% of all screenshots of Grisaia

>>16013764
Nice spoiler, moron.

>>16013529
Both are the same. Get the MangerGamer version if you want to give them more money since they won't have to give Steam a cut. Plus, it allows you to buy other "interesting" titles. :^)

>>16013829
Yeah and it's not even funny.

>>16013764
Dropped before even picking it up.

>>16013901
I know, right? 4:3 in this day and age. For shame.

>>16013233
But it isn't the only thing. Voices seem to be a major part too. For G-senjou it was 50% of the game value, and for Koihime it was about 1000 copies sold at 40 dollars.

It would be more fun if all VNs had voice DLCs because it would show how much people dislike having to pay extra to restore content. Even if the total price would be the same as now, there would be plenty of complaints that they didn't get voices included.

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>>16013663
Don't think about it too much.

>>16013233
> major factor in how they price a vn is the amount of content it has
It says "how they price a vn", meaning how much they would like to sell each unit for.
Understandably, that the amount of content is directly proportional to the amount of work put in and thus increasing the price that the producer will want to sell the product at.
BUT, the content needs to be of value to the buyer or nobody will be willing to pay for it (Like if you aren't into sports games and for example's sake you are their entire market, you would never buy it because it has no content of value to you even though it has content) then sooner or later ,in order to recuperate the production costs, they would either lower the price to attract impulse buyers and buyers didn't value the content enough to pay the full price or risk lose money on the project.

TL:DR : more content= morework= more COST (not price (keep reading)).
Having a lot of content doesn't drive a purchase, having content of value to buyer drives the purchase.
To cover costs on not-selling-well projects, they will sell at less than how much it cost them to produce it to cut losses, in this case, content=/=actual price (price).
Don't get your "prices" and "costs" mixed up, anons. They're plenty different.

>>16013937
I suppose nobody was to get charged twice for one product, even if costs the same.
Just that feeling that you get when you pay for something, even more so if you had to pay 2 times for 1 thing!

>>16014078
Good Haro made a really good comment about this on twitter, where she used monkeys as an example and how they didn't like getting ripped off by their trainers when trading with them.

I miss New Game, lads.

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>>16015217
This is not a fucking general chatroom. You have 50 other generals on /jp/ for that.

The article about Ozmafia Lets Plays getting channel strikes is up.

http://kotaku.com/youtubers-clash-with-visual-novel-developers-over-spoil-1788145960?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

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>>16015963
>“The Prince of Play” Solon Scott is a YouTuber who plays through visual novels, mostly Japanese dating simulators. It’s his art medium. In his videos, Scott acts out characters’ voices, explains literary devices and offers sharp commentary on visual novels’ plot. He sees himself as a performer and his videos as, in his words, “his work.”
>“I date the boys, and I date them in fun and novel ways,” Scott told me.
>It’s his art medium
>“I date the boys"

>>16015963
>According to Poni-Pachet, Scott “infringed” on their rights. As a small, all-female, Japanese indie developer, they are protective of their intellectual property
So that's how Poni-Pachet got a fair shake.

>>16015963
>So, losing me is a HUGE loss to ppl like MG
The guy is a narcissist confirmed.

>>16016112
>faggot is a narcissist

wooowwww

>>16015963
>>16015963
Post archive lad.

http://archive.is/U1Mb5

>>16015963
>It's a pro-Sekai Project article.

>>16016177
Which is dumb, since you can't Lets Play most of their big titles past the demo either.

>>16016177

I think you mean The Sekai Project

>>16015963
I never thought I'd see Kotaku being completely stupid. Oh wait...

>>16016166
While he's probably somewhat right in that he may help MG get money since LPs do help with sales sometimes, I think it's entirely up to the original company to decide whether to let those videos exist or not. Yeah, voice acting it out and commenting is better than simply posting a video of you just clicking through the VN, but it's dishonest to disregard the wishes of the developer or even the publisher on this matter. Not to mention that you could mute the video to get much of the experience of just playing the VN if you don't care about the sound. Or are outright deaf, I guess.

>>16016487
As MG mentioned in the article it's a derivative work, which means it can't be monetized without the creators consent. And the fair use argument has no bearing in Japan, and it's even questionable in the west in this case, since the dev had a streaming policy already set up.

>>16015963
Maybe the article will at least get people to buy the VN, although I doubt it.

If this guy didn't even know the stream policy, I don't even get why he's mad. The first thing you should do before streaming anything is to check what the stream policy is, gamers should be used to this because of how strict Nintendo was and can still sometimes be. It's his own fault for being a dumbass. You can't go around saying everything is fair use and hoping the YouTube lawyers will back your idiotic claims.

>>16016754
He's only removing the content because he basically has to. He already said that he thinks he should be able to stream the entire game, even if the devs don't want it to be.

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>>16016758
Why is modern Nintendo so shitty?

>>16016897
Because they're cowards.
Take no chances.
Push no envelopes.
Make no money.

>>16016924
>Nintendo
>not taking chances
Ever heard of the fucking Switch my friend?

>>16016927
I heard that it's another failed product from Nintendo like the Wii U.

>>16016936
It's not even out yet, it can't be a failed product.

>>16016508
This is certainly not fair use, as fair use allows only small sections of original to be quoted. When you rip off entire thing to make commentary, its blatantly illegal as decided by several such cases in court.

>>16015963
sanahtlig should've emailed kotaku about Nutaku's abuse of DMCA to remove evidence of censorship in their games. She'd report on it too, right?

http://www.light.gr.jp/light/products/dies_portal/animation.html?p=0003

>Dies Irae KS confirmed for October
>Sharin no Kuni KS probably very soon
Well, at least we get to see 2 developers hoping to milk the West for money crash and burn at about the same time.

Nutaku added Koihime Musou to their platform. Not really a big leap compared to their other recent additions, but it is a title that a couple months ago I wouldn't have expected to show up on the platform.

>>16016927
Basically a suped up Vita with a built in PSTV.
I'll buy it, cause it looks awesome, and the Vita was awesome.
But I'm an idiot, so you can't make bank off of guys like me.

>>16017182

Dies Irae will probably succeed off hype alone. I think both running at the same time will be the final bullet for the sharin no kuni kickstarter

>>16017368
There is literally zero hype for DI.

>>16017368
I will not; I can't see any hype for it and the censored(+18/some dialogues/blood) and cropped part will put the costumers away.

>>16017368
Dies Irae will be very strongly hyped by the time the anime comes around, but for the moment, with the lack of a fan translation or anything else to have made it broadly appealing in the West, its hype is limited to the core Visual Novel audience.

>>16017389
>its hype is limited to dozen autistic moogydrones who is NEETs without money so their hype is irrelevant anyway
ftfy

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>>16017389

>>16017368
There used to be hype, but much like Baldr Sky, it fizzled up quickly once it seemed like it would actually be localized. In BS's case, it was because of Sekai's wishiwashiness, but in DI's case, it's mainly because of crowdfunding fatigue.

>>16017389
They alienated a good part of that core VN audience with no 18+ version and the all ages version having cropping. They aren't a huge deal by themselves for me personally (at least not as much as what happened with Baldr Sky), but they're enough for me to not toss my money at them immediately and wait until a Steam sale or something.

>>16017384
Well if we can be vocal on the Kickstarter they might change their mind.

>>16017389
>the core Visual Novel audience

What's that? Some loudmouthed EOPs on Reddit?

>>16017540
When is the Kickstarter? Is this near the end of October?

Did the official Sharin no Kuni localization die? They were supposed to have the kickstarter back a month ago.

https://twitter.com/FrontwingInt/status/790884901167837185

New localization from Frontwing getting announced on Friday.

>>16017182
So they aren't waiting for the anime to air? Why?

>>16017981
Because they're retarded and fall for counjueror's lies about how much West wants DI. Can't wait for him to kill himself after Himawari tanked and DI's kickstarter failed.

>>16017922

That's not a localization announcement, it's the next frontwing project announcement.

Of course, I guess they could announce that they're going to localize it too, but technically they've said that "everything will be localized, eventually" so

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>>16018038
>"everything will be localized, eventually"
That's a lie and I doubt that they will tl their old VN's like Makai Tenshi.

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>Dies Irae KS in this month
>Sharin's KS will have now an excuse for why they will fail.
But yeah, with no advertising or a fucking press note by Light, I can see Dies Irae also failing.

>>16017867
https://twitter.com/sharin_en/status/790470852231909377
>It's taken a little longer than we expected, but we're about 98% finished with relaunch campaign preparations! More news later this week!
But anon, don't take this tweet as granted, because the PR with Sharin is really bad.

>>16018066

Of course. I don't know anyone who thinks otherwise. I'm just pointing out that it's not a localization announcement.

On that front, as further proof, the japanese twitter https://twitter.com/fw_official/status/790884820054253568

In non-runes "Also, a mysterious countdown has begun on our official website. Just what are these silhouettes? Everything will be made clear in 3 days..."

>>16018122
Lets hope both Dies Irae and Sharin's KS fail.

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>>16018162

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>>16017922
Maybe is another VN from the "... Girl" series with some extra lolis (as a bonus)

>>16017180
If she's that desperate for stories, then yes. This article wasn't even major news, since it's an ongoing issue with all the same arguments repeated over and over again. Basically, LPers have no idea what Fair Use actually is, and they try to claim whatever they do is Fair Use so that they can get followers and make money.

>>16017291
The loli characters make up a very small portion of the game. I'm betting that non of them appear in any screenshots, right?

>>16018366
>loli characters make up a very small portion of the game
What are you talking abot? 2 out of 3 main girls are lolis.

>>16018418
Yes, but I meant in the overall number of girls in the game. There are tons of ero scenes even excluding the main girls.

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>>16018437
Many of side girls are also lolis.

Anyone here got any recommendations for Christmas cake VNs? I'd love one where every choice was one. Any older lady VNs in general really?

>>16018484
Your choices are 99% nukige and 1% https://vndb.org/v18353

>>16018484
fuck off milf autist.

>>16018498
Thanks for the recommendation anon. Looks comfy. I'll give it a shot. Definitely looking for some story and not just sex stuff. I'm pretty new to VNs in general desu so I'm just looking for what interests me.

>>16018498
aren't a lot of the girls in this virgins even though they're supposed to be working adults?

>>16018533
How does having a job ensure sexual activity?

>>16018540
attractive girls don't stay virgins passed the age of like 16

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>>16018545
Lol

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>>16018511
I'm sorry to be the one to inform you that christmas cake characters are almost universally given the cold shoulder in games that aren't just porn. They just don't get routes. I can't count how many moege I've read that actively made fun of this fact, even, that's how normalized it is.

I can't believe I forgot this, but there's also Lovely Cation 1 https://vndb.org/v6682 . It has two teacher heroines that are cake age. There's Akeiro which has two cake heroines https://vndb.org/v18495 though they're not really archetypal cakes. This one has a pretty good story, too.

You may also be interested in the Tsumamigui series ( https://vndb.org/v18486 ) (2 is a sequel to 1 but 3 is standalone). They're nukige and largely pornographic but 3 has a fairly hefty story to it.

>>16018563
>>>16018511 (You)
>I'm sorry to be the one to inform you that christmas cake characters are almost universally given the cold shoulder in games that aren't just porn. They just don't get routes. I can't count how many moege I've read that actively made fun of this fact, even, that's how normalized it is.

My god...I didn't need this painful revelation. But thanks for telling to to me straight, anon. I'll check those out too, thanks. I love teachers.

Will I have greater luck if I'm interested non nukige chubby or monster girl VNs? I don't need freaking Shakespeare, but a little story would be nice.

>>16018596
Oof. Both of those are fairly uncommon as well. With monster girls, pretty much your only hope is to read nukige like Monster Girl Quest and pray they happen to have a good story. There are some games like https://vndb.org/v9338 but it's really slim pickings.

Chubby is actually less common than monster girls I believe, I could think of a couple monster girl games but chubby, not a one. I can think of some nukige that have heroines you could maybe consider chubby https://vndb.org/v15562 https://vndb.org/v18869 but it most of the few chubby games are just fat in general https://vndb.org/v5392 . All of these are porn-focused games, too. It could be my relative inexperience in the medium but I can't think of a single normal game with an overweight heroine.

>>16017182
But October is almost over...

>>16018697
Thanks a ton for the help anon. Figures that my tastes would be the most obscure. I'd do more searching myself but I'm actually just killing time at work so I can't go too lewd.

It's weird though, figured there'd at least be SOME, but I guess the straight nukige fills any of the needs for most people. I just want some slightly sexy SOL for cakes, monsters, or soft chicks, is that too much to ask?!

>>16018716
October 2017 (KS)
Release -> 2018

>>16018738
I'll fight you for obscure taste and mention tanlines loli with band-aids. It is like the holy grail and each time I find it, I'm amazed it even existed.

>>16018738
It's not necessarily that they're obscure so much that VNs are a very, very narrow genre. The vast majority of games released take place in a high school where you romance high school girls. Everything else is secondary and has to fight for its life. It's what all of we VN fans must suffer through.

>>16018789
>>16018795
Yeah, I meant obscure for the medium. I came into this thinking there'd be tons of variety, but I guess not

>>16018813
Variety means risk and VN producers hate taking risks

>>16018533
>>16018545
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/09/16/national/social-issues/sexless-japan-almost-half-young-men-women-virgins-survey/

>>16018819
Fine! I'll make my own VN! With spider Christmas cakes going soft around the middle!

>>16017291
If you look at how they market Koihime Musou and LIttlewitch Romanesque, they're clearly moving away from not carrying more controversial content to simply pretending the game doesn't have said content. Romanesque is particularly telling given that the two protagonists don't actually appear anywhere on the store page at all, all the cg, banners, etc are all of the side characters.

>>16015963
Anyone else read that quote from 'The Sekai Project' and find it just terrible? Read like a 5th grader wrote it.

>>16006894
>Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3 semi-active projects, one project released ch 1-6
didn't notice ch6 was out. nice.
what are the other projects again?

>>16018891
The really funny thing in that quote is that they act like they're completely okay with LPs, but right at the end stealthily add to check streaming policy first, which makes it no different than MG's policy.

You can't stream Grisaia, Clannad, or other major vns form Sekai Project to their completion either.

>>16018860
It would seem their payment processors view of what is allowed is based on what you can see by visiting.

If they just made their online games downloadable clients too, it would probably bypass the system and let you have any content.

>>16018955
If they get reported by someone they'd be in major trouble. And they've already said that they won't host anything on the level or euphoria.

>tfw you are told to leave /vn/ for /jp/ after playing unTLd games

ignorance is bliss i guess

>>16018926
Well of course. They want to come off sounding like the good guys, picking up any scraps of positive press they can get. Makes sense, seeing as how their media coverage has been practically nonexistent the last few months. However, it only made them come off sounding like they can't compose a simple sentence. But yes, you're right, very contradictory.

>>16018993
Who are you quoting?

>>16018955
I guess that's generally how it works, if it doesn't look like a problem, it's not a problem. Mangagamer's hardcopies tend to work that way too, the funny business is kept off the packaging, which raises a lot less problems when crossing borders.

>>16018993
There's a VN board? Where?

>>16019126
in /vg/

>>16018993
You want the untranslated VN general, this thread is full of EOPs too.

>>16017740
The website claims something like that. It could get delayed though.

>>16018892
Commie fake project, don't know why it's still in the list, and a one man translation who dropped it. The only hope left is McJon from Beast's Lair but he's fucking slow.

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Why didn't you buy The Silver Case?

>>16019967
My backlog is big enough at the minute, I'll get around to it.

>>16019967
>buy

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Finally I finished YU-NO.

Well anyway just finished it and I'm left speechless. That was awesone.
The problems?
-A lot of ecchi and fanservice (makes you not to take it seriously when you should)
-The gameplay is awesome but stupid sometimes (in most investigation parts you end up just spamming Clicks everywhere while pressing ctrl)
-The controls during the prologue and the epilogue(probably the best part of the game) are horrible.
-Outdated graphics, soundtracks and even the narration feels weird at many parts (I guess it was the style of the age)
-Failed to affect my emotions like FSN/MLA (mentioning my favorite)

Well, it's a fucking awesome Sci-fi story about time travels and not only (sounds cliche but the game was released at 1996, just imagine how unique it must have been then).
It makes stuff like S;G (well I've only watched the anime) look like its script was written by a 12 years old kid.
It has an awesome ending. (no goosebumps or tears though, for me at least)
It must have been truly revolutionary for its age, hands down. A lot of VN's I've read are heavily inspired by it.

Also I should mention that it's really complicated (compared with usual VNs).
I don't think I could've completed it within 35 hours without this walkthrough: link
I didn't use the text walkthrough though, 'cause it would make it overly easy and boring.

9/10 from me. I can't rate it less (because it's epic) and I can't rate it more (because of numerous flaws).

>>16020163
>(in most investigation parts you end up just spamming Clicks everywhere while pressing ctrl)
Fuck those hidden pixels

>>16020179
It's you monitor, this VN/Game is mean to be played at 8k.

>>16020163
The soundtrack is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499SRD4jSYg

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>>16020163
I cleared it 99,7% without walkthrough, but screwed up my saves near the end. Would have had to run from beginning to end twice more to get an item which I lost accidentally, to get the remaining 0,3%.

But YU-NO is definitely in my top 3. Really love the soundtrack, the art, plot, and the feel.

>>16020436
It's amazing how much the soundtrack adds to the game. Just re-listening to a few bars years later is enough to draw me back into the game's atmosphere. Really glad I played it with the FM music from the original PC-98.

Would love to find more games like it, I'm guessing you have to go back to the late 90s to find much similar.

>>16020481
Ryu Umemoto, the guy who did the music for YU-NO, also worked on a few other games of that era. EVE: Burst Error, DESIRE - Haitoku no Rasen and Xenon ~Mugen no Shitai~. I haven't tried reading them, but seems like two of them are translated.

But the musics are beautiful anyways, I found the soundtracks in a big FMPPMD music pack.

Xenon example: https://a.pomf.cat/ynrysi.mp3
Desire: https://a.pomf.cat/uhtnpm.mp3
Eve: https://a.pomf.cat/mnnfth.mp3

God bless Ryu's soul, he passed away a few years ago.

>>16018563
>>16018498
>they're all Japanese only
The pain...

>>16020974
Lovely Cation 1 has an active TL going at least.
Akeiro is the sequel to Nanairo Reincarnation which CafeDX wants to translate so it may come eventually.

>>16021080
True, guess there's a bit of hope. The https://vndb.org/v18353 one looked really damn comfy though.

>>16019967
Because the PS4 version is coming out later. Maybe it'll be better than the PC version.

>>16021905
It's the same. They just remastered the game and redid certain visuals and drawings etc. The Silver Case i will be buying on the next sale.

>>16021945
Oh, I guess they won't improve the English then (apparently, it's very subpar).

>>16020974
lol EOPs

>>16008967
what is the verb after anal?

>>16022709

開発する

>>16022754
cheers

Gu Long has more smarter and sexier female villians than gu long

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Looks like Kouryuu is upgrading his piss jar to a bucket.

>>16023435
Cute Lukas

>>16024784
VNs aren't just porn though. It's not like he sold porn-free nukige.

>>16024789
>It's not like he sold porn-free nukige
What is upcoming Koikuma.
>>16024789
>VNs aren't just porn though
Ero is kind of an important part in eroge. Humans aren't just brain, let's see how you fair without it.
Oh wait.

>>16024789
You mean he didn't try porn-free G-Senjou? Porn-free Baldr? Porn-free Maitetsu? Porn-free Chrono Clock?

>>16024818
Nice meme
>>16024805
Koikuma is going to have a denpa version just like nekopara with porn. Sure, there's going to be an all-ages version, but it's *optional* and just there for people who want it. I see no issue with that especially given how much moege elements are in nukige like that.
Yes, ero is important to eroge, I never said otherwise. I just said, "VNs aren't just porn", because you/he said "porn-free porn" which is misleading, sensational, wrong, etc etc.

https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/791378175095824384
They are working very hard

>>16024984
Doddler doesn't work at MG's office, he has a real job

>>16024984
Doddler only works freelance not a main employee for the company

>>16024989
How awful

>>16013742
Stop after the common route, everything else is a waste of time and will actually reduce your enjoyment of the game.

>>16026192
Are the heroines routes really that over the top with drama? I've heard that Amane and Makina's routes were the best, Sachi's is okay, and Michiru and Yumiko had fairly weak routes. I know Amane's has some Lord of the Flies things that happen in her route, which just makes it seem moronic that something like that could happen in modern times.

>>16026218
LotF was a moronic premise even back when William Golding wrote it, but yea it has some elements of that. Just letting you know it's all down hill after a 9/10 common route. Grisaia should have stayed a charage

>>16026230
Lord of the Flies was fucking satire.

>>16026269
It's not, you don't know what a satire is if you think LotF is one.

>>16026269
I read that shit in high school. It was played straight and wasn't satire at all. The fact that a fairly recent vn has a similar situation is just ridiculous, because you can't suspend your disbelief.

>>16026288
>>16026300
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coral_Island#Influence

>>16006894
>Shiei no Sona-Nyl - Picked up
Has Koestl started translating this? It's been picked up for over 2 months without any updates.

>>16026661
He's locked up in SP basement, will not be released till grisaia series is finished.

>>16026672
Well that sucks, when they announced Gakthun it was already almost finished.
Didn't grisaia's 2nd game sell like shit? I wonder how the 3rd will do

>>16026685
>when they announced Gakthun it was already almost finished.
That's not even close to true. Gahkthun took over a year.

>>16026708
Damn you're right, I probably mixed it with something else that was almost translated when announced.

Frontwing got J-List to distribute the Corona Blossom Volume 2 18+ patch.

>Context is everything when translating. If you're widely read and widely exposed to the culture, you'll be able to understand a particular line in a game from the perspective of the writer and the Japanese gamer. This frees you from a literal translation. The goal then becomes to leave the word-for-word text behind, and create something that will be as significant to the English audience as it was to the original audience. If you don't really know how a particular line sounds to a Japanese audience, you might misfire when transposing it into English--or worse, offer up a direct word-for-word translation that leaves the game sounding bland because that line that had a vivid life and cultural context in the original is just an unanchored string of words in the target language. Appreciation of context is also the key to creating a localization that is both a good read in English and faithful to the spirit of the original. That's the main difference between a game, book, or manga translated from start to finish by a translator, and one that is roughly translated into English first, and then rewritten by a good English writer that doesn't read Japanese.
>tfw 99% of VN localizations are shit because the medium doesn't pay enough for actual translators with complete understanding of the language and culture to bother with
Why is this allowed?

>>16006896
>SubaHibi - Official release planned
>Still no progress whatsoever since last year

I'm starting to lose my hope

>>16027618
That's what you get for believing a pathological liar like moogy

>>16027343
>actual translators with complete understanding of the language and culture to bother with

What does one have to do to fit this?

>>16027711
Understand. Break down what it's saying, understand it, then write the same in Japanese. Or vice versa.

"Had some Doritos, got all up in ems."
「ドリトスをぺろりと平らげちまった」

More literal in both English and Japanese

I had heartily eaten a number of Doritos.
私は勢い良くドリトスを食べました

>>16027764
I'm wasn't asking for a showcase of your N3 skills. And who the fuck says -ちまう nowadays?

I was more interested in what kind of experience and qualifications are seen as worthwhile.

>>16027343
>>tfw 99% of VN localizations are shit because the medium doesn't pay enough for actual translators with complete understanding of the language and culture to bother with
Isn't there the same issue with anime, manga, light novels, and especially vidya? Well, vidya is worse than even visual novels in many cases.

Grisaia: Phantom Trigger is Frontwing's new game. Spring 2017.

http://grisaia-pt.com/en/index.html

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>>16028113
>Episodic

>>16028113
They're really milking Grisaia for all it's worth at this point.

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Are you looking forward to Rance VI browser flash game sprites edition?

>the “truth” of this new world is been lifted.
>is been lifted
Really need to double check those Steam descriptions before posting them. This is from Ne no Kami.

>>16028153
And speaking of Ne no Kami, apparently there's some issue with the 18+ patch.

>when i downloaded it it said to overwrite a file in the usual place, but there was no file to overwrite, it just got put in there, is that normal for this?
>I'd also like to know this. I just placed the file in the folder since there was nothing to overwrite... I have no idea if its working or not. I'm an hour and a half in and no nudity or h-scenes yet.

>>16028113
I am confused is this a new universe to Grisaia? Do I need any knowledge of any of the games diving into this one?

>>16028182
Those Steam retards are probably reading it with their limp dicks whipped out waiting for a sex scene that will never show up.

Best part of Ne no Kami on Steam.

>Dammit thought this said Ni no Kuni...

>>16028113
-No male MC
-Episodic
-All ages
-Recycling resources from Griasaia

Fuck that!!

Dovac hasn't contacted anybody on the Baldr Sky team in months.

Aroduc no longer translating.

Doddler turning down work on Baldr Sky.

Hope you're all looking forward to Sekai Project Presents Balder's Sky, A Sekai Project Tramslaton.

>>16028216
There isn't a single game/vn company that doesn't recycle assets and resources

>>16028216
>A lot of these decisions were made quite a while ago, and were made taking all relevant markets into account. I like to think that the format a game is released in doesn't matter much as long as it has a compelling story and good artwork!

From Frontwing Staff

>>16028146
We Adventure Quest now

>>16028222
2018/2019 for sure, unless Aroduc decides to give them his translations.

>>16028222
>A Sekai Project Tramslaton

Maitetsu crossover confirmed

>>16027343
Just like how onigiri got translated to donuts. Now that's what I call a non-literal translation. Be a good translator and remove all instances of Japanese culture so the reader/watcher can understand. :^)

>>16028216
I'm not sure no male MC is ever really a negative. If this were 18+ it would even be a plus due to how rare it is (otome excluded). The rest I agree with though.

藤崎竜太 doing the scenario means it should be average at worst?

>>16028244
Why he would give his hard work for free to these incompetents SP staff?

>>16028113
lol, wow. I couldn't be any more less interested. Hurry up and translate Island already.

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>>16028286
>I couldn't be any more less interested

>>16028288
Exactly.

>>16028284
My point exactly

>>16028281
Eat your hamburgers, Apollo

https://youtu.be/2oTmjEv5JoM

They look like a mish-mash of the previous characters.

I'm not a big fan of Frontwing so I can't say I'm too disappointed or excited about this announcement, other than that I don't really like episodic releases, barring When They Cry.

No male MC and no ero means it might be story or character focused, though, so it might be worth looking into for people who liked Grisaia's common route.

>>16028281
Yes. According to the guy behind the legendary Vagrant Story localization, that's how it should be done.

>>16028321
>No male MC and no ero means it might be story or character focused
Look at the moron who hasn't touched any piece of Japanese media ever.

Look at him and laugh.

>>16028321
But the fun part of the common route was Yuuji's interactions with the patients.. er heroines.

>>16028300
>tohka
>h
Dropped.

>>16028244
You're really overestimating SP. 2018/19 would be possible WITH Aroduc's translation.
Without it Baldr Sky is sentenced to eternal limbo until SP goes bankrupt and Giga decides to self publish it in English.
So yeah Baldr Sky never. Fuck SP.

>>16028418
They can throw 10 fuwa "translators" at it and be done at the end of the month.

>>16028385
He isn't legendary, and westernizing the original text is retard.

>>16028430
Most likely it will be another Clannad scenario. They'll team a team of translators and editors headed by a very experienced translator. This will be very expensive, which means there will be a kickstarter for it.

>>16028447
You do understand that they didn't really translate much of Clannad, right? They checked the existing translation and cleaned it up. That's vastly different and requires ridiculously less time and effort than doing everything from scratch.

>>16028485
Sanahtlig, Tyr and their best frient Goglobin Atlassian can translate everything in mere seconds and ReTrans aka Totally Not Cudder will pack it into patch.

>>16028445
>He isn't legendary
Not what that post stated, but yes, Alexander O. Smith is considered one of the greatest translators of our time, and VS has a localization that reads better in English than in its original language.

He's one of the very few people I can think of who could genuinely do 装甲悪鬼村正 justice. Not that he'd ever want to translate porn or that anyone in this medium could afford his services.

>>16028524
I would rather no because no one want a westernized VN.

>>16028524
> ever paying for "localization"

>>16028532
This, to be quite honest, Famicom. Like myself, people should just be reading VNs in its original language and let the western market die. *tips fedora*

Pandering to western waifufaggots was a mistake.

>>16028113
>対象
>一般

Thx EOPs

>>16028618
>ロピズ

What's this in English?

>>16028649
Sorry posted in the wrong thread, it's just my last name. I always name MC after myself when I can.

>>16028649
How can you not know kana in 2016? How can you mistake ピ for ペ? They don't look even remotely similar. EOPs, when will they learn.

>>16028660
To be fair this is the EOP thread. You are being too harsh.

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>>16028216
>-No male MC
Did you really check their site? It has male MC, he's instructor in charge of girls.

>>16028660
>>16028667
It's just a typo. The harsh criticism will help me learn Japanese.

>>16028677
Blue Heart? What a shitty name.

>>16028682
What even?

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>>16028682
Ｇｉｖｅ　ｉｔ　ａ　ｒｅｔｈｉｎｋ．

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>>16028682
Maybe he'll be a rapist, like his namesake.

Besides its true ending being kind of cliche, is G-Senjou a good story vn?

>>16028719
A solid 7.5/10. The ending was kinda stupid and ruined the whole premise.

>>16028113
>episodic
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

How are the 11s reacting to the new Grisaia announcement my Japanese speaking friends?

>>16028998
I can't even find a thread for it on 2ch. The only one that even mentioned it is the vita galge thread.

>>16029010
Ouch I bet that's a little disheartening.

>>16028485
Judging by how Wagamama High Spec progressed, I am guessing they had multiple translators on that (likely 3 with the big updates reflecting them finishing their parts). The same is likely true for Chrono Clock, where they are pushing it for a near term released (despite the limited progress listed) over other titles that are listed as more complete.

It might not be Clannad where you are fixing a problematic translation, but throwing a few translators on Sky (or any other title) would reduce the time required for translation by a significant amount, although the quality of translation would obviously be more variable as a result.

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>>16028677
Well, he looks like a female.

>>16029367
Baldr Sky is exponentially larger and more complicated than either of those, and they've taken well over a year. If they throw a proportionate number of translators at Baldr Sky as they have those, we're taking twenty or thirty, and likely two to three years just for Dive 1.

Still with Sekai Project shitty translation, unedited Engrish, and no QC.

>>16029717
Yuuji was also a trap.

>>16029784
Dive 1 is 2.2MB of script plus non-script text. Dive 2 has 2.41MB of script text.

It's a long title, but it's not exponentially longer than your standard full length moege. It's not going to be finished anytime soon, but it also isn't 10 times larger then a standard title.

>>16029827
How?
If you mean in the sequel as a kid then I can understand you but in Kajitsu he don't look as a female at all.

>>16029882
Of course I meant his childhood.

>>16029047
Grisaia is probably bigger in the west than in Japan, when you account for market size. It's not a meme when people say the vn is not a big deal.

J-List getting into the patch distribution business with Corona Blossom is likely a bit of a blow to Denpasoft, as through now Denpa has been setting themselves up to be the most visible distributor of paid patches.

>>16030042
J-List is far better than Denpa.

>>16030042
This is not exactly big business. Paid patches are dying.

>>16030053
The very idea idea of paid patches for content that should be in the base game is honesty offensive.

>>16030050
I'm not complaining, and I think it is better business to go through J-List where more people might actually see the patch. Just noting it is new competition for Denpasoft in a niche they have been trying to build with moves such as getting the Muv Luv patch.

>>16030053
Paid patches aren't going anywhere. Even if they aren't selling well themselves on a site like Denpasoft, if you are going to charge a higher price on Kickstarter/IGG/off-Steam storefronts, then you aren't going to have a free patch.

>>16030042
>the patch distribution business
What business exactly?
Are you talking about non-ero releases on Steam, with ero patches sold elsewhere separately?
You'd call that model a business unto itself? Perhaps it really is accurate to say that it is.