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Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/aigis/

http://wikiwiki.jp/aigiszuki/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Quiz of Valkyrie:
>Jp Wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/quizofwalkure/

Flower Knight Girl:
>Eng Wiki
http://flowerknight.wikia.com/
>Jp Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/

Shooting Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wiki.kanmuryou.com/shooting-girl/index.php

Idol Wars Z:
>Jp Wiki
http://idolwarsz.com/

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames

DMM

X-Overd:
>Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/x-overd/

Sengoku Providence:
>Wiki
http://xn--dck1bzb8cufqbe7009ew8ua.xn--wiki-4i9hs14f.com/index.php?
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benis
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>>15819324
How do I get this cute girl to come to me?
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>>15819521
Use a lot of money
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How many of you actually play Nutaku Aigis instead of DMM Aigis?
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>>15820248
More than you'd think, its a biased question though, it'd be better to judge if you asked which version people played.
Nutaku version player here.
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>>15820385
>its a biased question though

Different anon here, but I don't think so. The vast majority of Aigis discussions in these threads concern the DMM version. I think it's fair to ask who is playing the less-discussed version instead.
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>>15820447
That's true, but there might be another kind of bias there, in that discussion generally follows new events and Nutaku has fewer of these.

That said, I play on DMM. I do have an account on Nutaku, but unless they really get their shit together, I don't think it's worth playing over there.
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>>15820447
Funny thing about that vast majority, if its not directly related to a specific event I'll sound like I play the DMM version, even to the point where I know about almost all other units in the nutaku released classes.
Examples of healers being Saria has best range with no skill and a much faster heal time with her skill up, Yuno's a decent event unit who improves other healers while Elias skill has a huge attack boost while reducing her range a lot.

I could go on but you should get the point.
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What is considered a good unit to use the max skill fairy on? Any black?
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>>15820599
Rikka or Odette (if you plan to use Odette), otherwise a Gacha Plat/Black with a strong AW Skill.
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>>15820599
Either Odette or an item trial black that you didn't max out, but turned out to be really useful.

I'm using mine on Metus if I ever get a second copy. First is being kept indefinitely because she's cute.
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It doesn't delete all these gifts, right?
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>>15821061
Click it and find out.
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>>15821085
Seems like it didn't.
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>>15821097
You're right. It collects all gifts at once.
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20 minutes into this game, and so much fluffy service.

Why did I ignore this game for so long?
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>>15821133
Because unless you're willing to shell out hundreds of dollars per event it's a waste of time to even try. It's one of their worst cash grabs by far.
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>>15821133
It's quite possibly the most awful cash grab in the history of DMM (and that's no mean feat), now with extra censorship.

Just get the CGs on panda and stay very, very far away from that game.
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>>15820565
>>15820467
Well, I started a couple of months ago already on Nutaku, and as much as I ended up regretting it for a while because of the gimped treatment it got, I came to the conclusion that I was actually better off as a new player - DMM Aigis has so much shit and events already in the past catching up would be a lot more painful.
So it's kind of a blessing in disguise.
Also I am looking forward to, albeit also slightly fearful, about their control of Aigis and supposed Nutaku-exclusive content to compensate for all content removed/skipped.
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>>15821133
1) Worst censorship I've ever witnessed.
2) Ultimate money-milking game. Everything is designed in such a way that you need to keep paying them dollars to get something.
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>>15821286
It's quite the opposite really, with how the revivals and events work on DMM you actually have a way catch up as opposed to Nutaku where you're stuck on silvers you can't even CC because of the horrible drop rates and massive space between events.
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>>15821353
>where you're stuck on silvers you can't even CC because of the horrible drop rates and massive space between events.

And because you never have enough rogues.
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>>15821353
This.
I started year ago on both Nutaku and DMM (first on Nutaku, then month later on DMM because there was handout of free SCs).
I have every event unit except select few on DMM, whole bunch of gacha plats and blacks, all golds. Total unique plat+ units: 8 blacks, 75 plats, 3 sapphires. Money spent: 0.
I have only 22 event plat+ units, Spica and 1 gacha plat on nutaku. Not even fucking Chydis because they never rotated trade post. Money spent: 150$.
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Somewhat new to Nutaku and trying to decide whether I should stick with Flower Knight Girl or switch over to Osawari Island. So far the gameplay in Osawari seems deeper and more rewarding than FKG but the smaller community is somewhat worrisome.

I'm also uncertain how the gacha models compare between the two games but being able to buy a maximum rarity character in FKG sounds better than gacha hell.
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Can anyone still enter on sorakana? I am trying after clearing cache for more than 5 days and still can't play this shit again, I just wanted my pre reg girls
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>>15822686
You shouldn't play osawari, period.
Was already thoroughly explained in the thread.
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>>15822771
I was able to enter via proxy, while my original IP gets request for one of js scripts blocked by server.
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>>15822787
So I need to use a proxy to enter in the game? well
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>>15822686
i ditched osawari since the free gachas don't give you anything good
at least in fkg you get a good amount of golds and if you're lucky you could even get a rainbow
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>>15822787
>>15822796
Normal or R-18 version? I don't think R-18 games on DMM even have IP block.
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>>15822856
I am on the r-18 version, but this shit doesn't load, I tried on my pc and notebook, all of them with same connecting error
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>>15822856
Its not IP block per se, just single .js file not loading.
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>>15822860
>>15822861
I can still get in without using proxy, this sounds like a part of their fucked up coding, one anon had the same problem with Kanpani Girls before too.
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>>15822686
Osawari is a shameless cash grab that has virtually no future, since the game is dead as a doornail on DMM and there's no way Nutaku will cover the costs of providing new content once they finish with the existing events. It also expects you to pay out of your ass all the time, since all of its events are ranking events, and even some non-ranking girls can't be obtained without paying for stamina refills. The only thing you should do with this game is to watch its whales despair after the inevitable service closure announcement.

FKG is the best-run game under Nutaku, though it's still heavily inferior to the DMM version, which has better cash deals and gives its players an extra ~50 flower stones per month. The EN FKG team also do a fine job at responding to feedback (see Yamayuri skill flower fix, E-8 fix, autocomplete, early implementation of 100/5000 point deals etc.) and are decent at following the JP update schedule, though they've been falling a bit behind as of late. However, FKG has no gameplay beyond what you've already seen (later content like whale and ultimate maps are just high-level versions of the same old), so if that is important to you, you're better off elsewhere.

Frankly, Aigis looks to be the game for you. It has decent gameplay, frequent new maps (on DMM, Nutaku version is pretty much unplayable right now), a sizeable EN community and a paid content system that is not good as FKG's guaranteed deals, but not as horrible as Osawari's constant begging for cash either. There's also an ongoing collaboration event that will hand you 30 SC for minimal time investment, which should be good enough to get you started, especially if you also take the time to reroll for a good plat/black.
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I wonder if they will implement the second batch of Oriental missions, hopefully they have had plenty of time to scratch their balls after these two weeks and did at least that much. The first batch was quite tricky with the new mobs.

Ever the optimist, I know...
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>>15823448
Uhm... shouldn't Nutaku take over it soon?
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>>15823696
Soon™...
Just wait one more year guys
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>>15823696
Someone on ulmf claimed to have spoken with some of the devs on some event and they had told him they expected, hopefully, to have it on their hands early-mid September. I was the one that expected the switch to still need more months, like xmas or so, yet I would love to be wrong in this.
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>>15823996
They had an AMA a few days ago when streaming Sakura Space, supposedly they now said "hopefully end of September".
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>>15823996
>>15824004
Oh well we shall see.
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>>15824004
I see, guess my estimates might still prove true. At least they do speak of this month so it probably just needs signing the contract, which on the other hand is probably what they have been trying to achieve for months.
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>>15823996
>>15824004
Remember that they were also "just about to release" Taimanin Asagi Battle Arena for months, only to reveal that they hadn't even started preliminary talks about it.

It's best to believe that the transfer will come when it comes, instead of setting yourself up for disappointment when September ends with nothing to show for it.
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To anyone that play shiropro, does reconstruction reverts your shiromusume to lv1?
Is it ok to reconstruct them before they reach max lv?
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>>15824215
No, they keep their level and everything else, so just reconstruct them as soon as you gathered enough fodders.
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Which game would you guys choose between Aigis and the castle girls game?
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>>15825357
Aigis.
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>>15825357
So far I like Aigis more. Shiropro needs more tactical diversity and some kind of star trial events, grinding for drops or drops + building all the time sucks.
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>>15825357
Shiropro, less level grinding for me. And I like that you can reposition them and turn the girls into gigantic form. Also I love how they can change weapons and it shows on the character's sprite. And lastly, voices.

The only thing I don't like about Shiropro is they removed the castle remodelling system from the old game.
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Got 2* and 4* event girls at max LB in ShroPro, should I keep grinding for 4* remodelling material or switch to levelling? Still level 21 tono.
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Oh fuck, stealth launch of muvluv.
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FKG back up. Looks like the questionnaire is back, there's a new set of ultimate maps, Lechenaultia event is on permanent revival, and Broom, Robinia, Convallaria and the yukata version of Dogwood are getting their second evolutions. Also of potential interest is 2ch's rainbow rankings, as of the current update:

S-rank: Broom, Cherry, Viola (yukata)
A-rank: Sakura, Saffron, Nerine
B-rank: Acacia, Iberis, Epidendrum (swimsuit), Oncidium (bride), Snowdrop, Dendrobium, Euonymus, Serissa, Lycoris (miko), Maple
C-rank: Apricot, Ionocidium, Lagurus, Victoria, Victoria (bride), Katakuri, Cattleya, Christmas Rose, Fritillaria, Garden Peony, Hoya, Hollyhock, Dianthus, Ghost Spurge, Habranthus, Viola, Lycoris, Black Baccara, Pumpkin, Ardisia, Mimosa, Mistletoe, Kerria
D-rank: Anemone, Ume, Cactus, Daisy, Dogwood, Flowering Peach, Helenium, Red Ginger
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>>15826959
> WebGL shows "not enough memory" error
Fucking web browser games, stop trying to eat more resources than AAA shit yet have no gameplay.
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Still the coolest cape.
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>>15826700
I say keep on grinding for remodel mats.
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>>15826700
I am jelly. I can't max LB the 2* castle since she barely drops for me.

As for your question, it depends. Do you have any 4* that needs remodeling? 4*s are quite hard to get without rolling gacha, so stocking up on them might not be so bad.
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They just literally played same shit with pseudo-Sumika and pseudo-MLE-MLU as opening for MLAS. To make matters worse, this sham-Sumika teleported to BETA-verse with you, so she's going to be annoying sidekick forever.
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>>15826972
The Selection Gacha questionnaire also lists characters on permanent revival like Lavender.

I'm not sure what to think of this. Maybe there's an obvious reason I'm missing, but the only explanation I can think of is that it's a not very subtle way of asking what characters do people want to see get a new version. I doubt that's the case, though.
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>>15826959
Where the heck are my saved SSR's and coins/green crystals?
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>>15827043
Its open beta, not actual release yet.
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It's kind of odd that I can do this to the 5-5 boss while the 6-5 boss will still casually wipe the floor with my whale on a bad day. I hope they make it possible to consistently clear the next final map.

>>15827041
They do outright ask for 2*/3*/4* girls that people want new versions for, so it's not that unlikely. We've never had a new version for an event character, it could be interesting to have combat-worthy versions of cute but weak girls like Rainlily, Fuchsia and Plumeria. But then, second evolutions kind of fulfill this niche already.

Also interesting is that Galium (the C90 not-Alstroemeria girl) is in the list, though like all promotional girls her stats are too weak to be in the gacha. Would she also get a new version?
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Did 10 pull on premium gacha in MLAS beta, got only 1 HR (which is below SR/SSR) and 9 Rs. Fucking great rates they got there, I bet I'm not ever going to see another SSR after pre-reg gacha.
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>>15827083
I'd expect them to ask that through a popularity contest, though. It's also just a guess, so I doubt many people would vote for them thinking it would just be a wasted vote. Just wait and see, I guess.

Not sure about the promotional girls, though. I doubt they would get an entirely new version, and unlike Lilac they are 5* so they can't add them to the seed gacha. Maybe have them participate in an event where all girls are event girls? Would also mean the people who bought the merchandise get the chance to max their skills/equipment slots, although it would of course also mean that they get the short end of the financial stick.
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>>15826984
Her face looks a lot better compared to her old arts.
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Are you fucking kidding me.

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Maintenance Details
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Limited Time Event
- The Urgent Mission "The End of the Dark Knights" ends
- The Item Drop Rate for Story Missions is x1.5 begins
- The Item Drop Rate for Awakening Orb is x2 begins
*The Item Drop Rate is available until maintenance begins on September 20(Tue).

Other Changes
- Changed the Unit boosted in Premium Summon
- Addition of new system "Rainbow Crystals"
- Addition of new "Super Legend" grade to Stamp Card
- Upward revision of the Item Drop Rate(Story, Daily, Awakening Orb)

Rainbow crystals and Super Legend. Before a goddamn TP update.
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>>15827193
What are you, some sort of filthy peasant? I'm glad we're getting this break so that I can roll 20 more plats, sell them for rainbow crystals, buy the knight and the fairy, and get them ready for awakening.

They've even added SL stamp cards because they care about paying users, unlike that shitty DMM version that keeps giving all these free SCs to lowly non-paying commoners.
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>>15827203
Wow, I almost took that bait.

It's too early in the morning for me to detect sarcasm, anon.
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>>15827213
That was careless of you, it should've been obvious the moment you read about Danchou and Cynthia.

I mean, they're obviously going to implement rainbow crystals and then refuse to add any units that you can buy with them.
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Don't like this gameplay. You can field only 2 mechas at once, one of which is fixed to be your friend, and if friend's one die you are left with 1 mecha on field.
90 seconds to kill all enemies or you lose automatically.
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>>15827243
I hope this game fails within a few months.
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>>15827273
The gacha certainly doesn't give me any good impression so far, both the pre reg and in game.
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>>15827291
The pre reg made me dislike it before it even came out.

I wonder if this game was just a quick cash grab for their franchise.
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>>15827219
>implement rainbow crystals and then refuse to add any units that you can buy with them

sasuga devtea, their genius goes far beyond what my puny brain can comprehend
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I'm glad that she got a second awakening and everything, but what is with this sprite?
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>>15827193
I don't *get it*
Whats the point of adding an extra tier of stamp card if there is no content to the game. Are there still whales buying heavily into this game when all their gacha rolls can only be used to play a new event every once a month?
Whats the point of again giving an extra drop rate week with nothing else going on? If you run concurrent events like a subjegation and increased drop points while also having revivals, people will run out of stamina/charisma and be more inclined to spend SC.
This all seems like really basic business things to me.

I'm going to run out of units to awaken fast at this rate. Which in turn makes me able to breeze through a new event within a day or two without using a single SC. There's no challenge anymore because they fucked their own balance with the constant breaks.
They're running this game into the ground so hard, its not even funny.
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>>15827340
What is it with that sprite?
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>>15827341
They don't care. If "transfer to nutaku" is true, then they aren't going to get as much money once transfer is complete, so they are trying to get as much money as possible in remaining time.
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>>15827343
Check leg length.
It is supposed to look like her left (our right) leg is raised at the knee (I think), but it doesn't look like that at all. So she has a gimped leg.
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>>15827351
I see it
The lower part of her raised leg looks a bit odd in perspective
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>Racua requires frontline strategist and warrior priest orbs instead of vampire hunter
Oh dammit, another week until I awaken her. I had all the other materials prepared too. I guess I should've checked beforehand.

Good thing she's a broken plat, so things are going to be nice once I get her to AW.

>>15827351
At least her base and first evolution sprites are both good, so you can revert to these with no problems.
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>>15827386
I have her awakened, doesn't really seem all that broken to me.

she's a strong unit but the initial time to use her skill really hinders her and her ability rarely sees any worthwhile use because of how long it takes to heal.

If she could be healed in any way she'd be truly broken as fuck, but as it is she seems really situational.
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>>15827417
Isn't her main use tanking untankable nonsense like golems and the war boar alongside necromancer tokens?

I also got a lot of mileage paralyzing these things with her, you can keep a golem occupied for a good while if you drop a token as a distraction before paralyzing it with her.
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is muvluv still working? i can't access the game
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>>15827434
Those are tankable though, hell you can even tank 3 Warboars at once. Probably 4 if you Gellius.
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>>15827203
And here I am...waiting to awaken Rikka.
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Hows your gullible dragon coming along?
I suddenly ran out of plat fairies so can't feed her more for now, but I don't have any more copies right now anyway
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>>15827899
She's been a great exp fodder. Used 2 rainbows on my 3/5 one and ended 5/5 (because I only care about her skill, nothing else)
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>>15827907
>because I only care about her skill, nothing else
Thats a pretty rash decision, considering we don't know anything about her AW ability
Though I'm pretty sure it won't be anything impressive
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>>15827924
Considering I have a full upgraded Uzume, yup I'll only use for her skill. Also it is already very hard to find a spot on my team for the 20% att up, the only thing I can think that will make her valuable is a dragon units cost reduction or something like that.
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>>15826972
Hahah, figures my only rainbow ( and I got it from paying dosh) would be lowest rank.
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>>15826972
Where is Plum?
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>>15827966
Plum is Ume.
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>>15827950
Who is she? Besides, you should consider that the list goes as "S: rainbows with skill up/attack reduction and 2/3-target skills after second evolution - A: other rainbows with second evolutions - B: rainbows who don't have second evolutions yet, but do have attack reduction/skill up abilities - C: "standard" rainbows with 3-target skills (plus Kerria and her absurd multiplier) - D: rainbows with single-target and two-target skills (plus Helenium and her abyssal stat totals - Lavender has a better statline than her)". Second evolution will probably catapult everyone to S/A rank.

Ume for example is currently in D but will soon be A unless FKG devs decide to be cruel to her (her wife got the 1.2x skill up ability, she deserves it too). Also, as with all other girls in FKG, cuteness and character appeal are the real factors that matter, and even "bottom-tier" rainbows are still a force to be reckoned with.
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>>15827899
looking prety nice here, becasue being a dragon-fag I feel obliged to use her. I sure hope i get that last CR and skill level, have horrible luck with those being free player and don't feel like wasting SC but will do if my luck is not up.
Sure hope she will have nice AW ability.
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>Upward revision of the Item Drop Rate(Story, Daily, Awakening Orb)
So what's this exactly? Do we have numbers from when this was patched on DMM?
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>>15828048
Hanamomo. The atk boost being aff based is nice, 20%x5. I guess the def boost could be worse yet she only has a simple 1 hit atk.
I don't really know how she fares statwise or if she's going to get some nice second AW (if she hasn't gotten it yet).
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>>15828084
Could be worse, like Dogwood.
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>>15828084
>Hanamomo
She was my first rainbow too, there's nothing wrong with her. But well, there's a reason they stopped releasing rainbows with single/2-target skills a year ago, it's hard to compete when your single-target skill does 45k and multi-target does 30k to 3.

She doesn't have a second evolution yet, so we'll both have to wait and see what she gets.

>>15828098
Fritillaria actually used to be the most unfortunate rainbow, since she had a mediocre statline (currently the third-lowest among rainbows), a 2-target skill and the worst rainbow ability in the game (2% attack to self per skill used, I hope they upgrade that to something like 3% attack to party per skill used after her second evolution). Thankfully, her skill was buffed to be 3-target pretty quickly, and she .(alongside Dendrobium) currently has the highest possible multiplier for an area skill.

She's also one of the most unfortunate characters in the setting, in that both her family and every unit she joined were killed by pests, with her as the only survivor. That's why she charges ahead by herself in Geranium's event.
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>>15828098
You made me curious about Dogwood. I could see why you would rank her low.
In fact, now I'm sad because she seems a buffed Gerbera, which was the only new gold I managed to get from the guaranteed ticket gachas. I wondered if her skill wasn't translated well because it seemed underwhelming. I guess it IS underwhelming.
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>>15828048
>Ume for example is currently in D but will soon be A unless FKG devs decide to be cruel to her (her wife got the 1.2x skill up ability, she deserves it too).

Oh, I was about to ask why Sakura was A when all the other single/double-target girls were in D. Guess that explains it.
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>>15828218
Meant abilities. Dogwood seems to hit 2 enemies so it's better as well. At least she's cute enough I guess.
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>>15827193
In the meantime, Nutaku Aigis fanboys taking the developer sides.
This community got some serious cancer i tell you.
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>>15828335
well, it's the opinion of a girl, of course she is going to gather all the white knights on facebook
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>>15828341
Jesus christ this girl is crazy...
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Is hitsuji chronicles even worth playing?
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>>15828440
No.
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>>15828335
>>15828439
I don't even see these posts on my phone...
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>>15827899
Up until this morning, very badly. And still not great.

My first 7 copies fed only gave me -2/+1. For those counting, that means I missed a coin toss on skill up six times.

As of this morning she's -3/+3. Doubt I'll see that last skill level off of copies, but I'm getting antsy about getting cost min at this point.
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>>15828335
Seems like girls in general have the opinion that attacking something is never justified, no matter the reason.
Unless they decide to, of course.
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>>15827899
Just mincosted mine. I feel lucky it only took 12 copies.

I wish I was this lucky during Helena's event.
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>>15827899
Mincost 5/5 with only 9 copies. My luck is misplaced.
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MuvLuv is back to slot machine mode, next open beta scheduled at 15 sept.
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I can't remember, was there anything like limit-break mechanic during open betatest? Do I really need several dupes of her or not?
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Holy fuck, and I didn't even reach the 1kk of damage.
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>>15831171
What is your secret
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>>15831280
They probably increased the drop rates because the current event ends this Friday rather than next Monday.

Looks like the next event will be themed around the moon festival. Let's see if Susuki and Lagurus will make a showing, and if we'll get the first true bamboo in FKG.
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>>15827600
Is anything besides Furfur's 2nd form really untankable?
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Plat enchanter this week
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In FKG nutaku should I buy the ampys with life gems or save for the deadline of 26/10 and buy the rainbow and gold skillblooms again.
Should there be more things added next time?

I'm assuming its best to ignore the silver and bronze skillblooms and the manyu.
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【「絶」Mapのクリア想定Lv】
・難易度「普通」⇒城娘平均Lv50以上

Huh, so I'm supposed to be able to complete the event with just level 50 girls? Somehow these values don't feel right, I can't even complete map 3 with 35+.
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>>15831538
The event maps have started dropping life crystals so I guess you can spend a few if you like. Just know that ampys can drop from the late story maps (chapter 12+) and some events maps though so it might be a waste to buy ampys
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>Thank you for playing Millennium War Aigis.

>The maintenance that began on September 13, 2016 (Tue) at 3:00 (EST),
will be extended due to some problems.

>The expected completion hour is not certain under the present condition.
>We will have an announcement once it is certain.

>We apologize deeply for the inconvenience caused by this maintenance extension.

>Thank you for your understanding and kind cooperation

>The Millennium War Aigis Development Team

Heh, they've broken it hard, haven't they? Incoming one SC apology.
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>>15831722
>Incoming one SC apology
Fuck off, shill. We all know there's no SC apology for this small problem on Nutaku
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>>15831722
> no event
> still can't implement it on time
Copypasting code from one repository into another is so hard.
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Can't remember well but, wasn't there some Rainbow Crystal glitch when they were introduced?
I think I read about it somewhere.
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Aigis seems up for now.
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>>15831783
They really can't be arsed to update the TP.
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>>15831783
HAHAHAHAH. Such masterful trolling. Nenya on the banner.
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>>15831563
Are you having problems with the flamethrower kabutos? Just use magic on them and they'll melt after a few attacks. Everything so far has been easy on normal difficulty. Map 3 should only be tricky on hard mode.
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>>15831799
As expected of Devtea, this is some next level stuff
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>>15831783
I see they added also the gacha rates, not that we didn't know them already.

Thanks cygames
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>>15831787
That makes two TP updates, first the new silvers, now the rainbow crystals, and they still refuse to update the actual TP units
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>>15831844
At this point I'm convinced they are doing this on purpose, trying to force players to roll for gacha healers/angels/etc.
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We got a slight UI update and seems like some hidden changes.
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So Cyrus gives 20 rainbow crystals. That means we can trade 70 demon for 20 rainbow until they patch it.
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>>15831874
And with the item drop raise Monica should give 100% crystal drop on G... hmm. If they haven't patched it by Thursday I might spend my SC's farming them and get me a shiny Black Knight.
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>>15831874 >>15831881
There's nonzero chance of bans for "bug abuse", aigis is crazy in this regard.
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>Liana is worth 400 RCs

Dream is ded.
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>>15831891
It should be fine if its reported within the first hour like it has.
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>>15831881
Just remembered that the drop event is for story and orbs only. Guess I'll keep my SCs for... Nagi I guess.
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>>15831538
Don't buy anything but skill flowers and possibly bloom hearts with your life crystals.

The exchange rates are too terrible for that.
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If I got it right, does that mean that rainbow crystals are only for whales?
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>>15832117
Short answer yes, long answer no but you will take a long time/some luck to eventually sell enough stuff to get something.
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>>15832117
It gets better once daily revivals come in and you can just farm event units to sell off for chump change, but yeah, mostly for whales.
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>>15832142
>It gets better once daily revivals come
Its 3 crystals per unit(12 sta for 100% drop), so 6 crystals a day, or about half a year worth of stamina for a 1000 crystal unit
Its pretty much unviable
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>>15832150
I didn't say it was good. I just said it was better. You'll at least have the option to poke at your crystal count if you don't need to farm an event or daily map on some days.
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Spending money on a gacha that may give you plat/black dupes that you dont want to get a black that could help with new missions that dont exist.

Meh, i'll stick with plan A: Place Sybilla, watch the reap.
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>>15831881
>>15831874
You need 107 SCs for it with level 200 prince
Meh, just roll instead
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>>15831401
>緊急ミッション【付与魔術師と妖魔の女王】
So she's another girl hand-picked for the Prince's harem by his goblin godmother.

When are we going to get her highness herself? Hypnosis fetish needs a place in Aigis too.
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>>15832466
I doubt they would make queen into heroine, too unconventional appearance.
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>>15832488
Just turn her into a domineering loli with pointy ears.

I mean, it's not like being non-human stopped Anya.
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Damn, they're making it look like it's some kind of event or limited time unit, and the guy will go away after the patch.
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>>15832693
Would not surprise me if they did do that.
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>>15832706
I doubt it, that would enter in the "trading post rotation" category, even if they just remove him. And we know they like to keep after more than a year, their moss covered and rotten units there.
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Can someone tell me what I'm supposed to be doing here and what I'm apparently doing wrong? My kanji's not so good.
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>>15831171
I'd like to know this as well. Fraise is the only SR tickles my fancy, but I've been tossing all the dupes in favor of getting more variety. The L card doesn't seem to exist ;_;
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>>15832975
>>15831171
Meanwhile, I'm sitting here with 3HRs and wondering if I'll see even 1 SR before prereg is over.
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>>15832946
Nevermind. I think it wanted a numerical DMM user ID or something, but I closed the window and can't get it back. According to the help files, there's some way to transfer your file to the DMM ID from the main menu but I can't get anything to give me that option in what's available.

This Akiba's Trip game is a thing, though. The gacha animation is a full 3D rendering of MC just blasting through a horde of girls and ripping all of their clothes off. Too bad the outfit I got out of it looks terrible.
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Does hardware acceleration on Chrome still mess up DMM Aigis or did they fix that? It's been a good while since I remember them having the notice about it and I've had it off the whole time, but the Akiba's Trip game runs like shit without it, so I'd like to turn it back on if it isn't a problem.
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>>15833338
Answering my own question here, it causes a lot more lag in the game with it on still.

Guess I'll have to turn it off for Aigis and then back on for Akiba's Trip. Come on, Aigis, get your shit together.
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Anyone have a guide for Target Collection? I have no clue what I'm doing.
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>>15834688
You just hit girls with their element and that's it.
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>>15834872
uhh, ok. Simple enough I suppose. How do I level up my skills?
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>>15834886
What skills?
Its same card game as every other one, you form decks with cards, attack with these cards all at once. Cards are levelled by combining with other cards, mostly exp cards you get from according daily.
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>>15832150
that's ignoring all the other sources of rc
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>demon summoner
>looks like a demon
Even more dubious characters for prince's army
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>>15835586
>dubious characters
She's going to fit well somewhere around necromancers, majins, dark elves and dark stalkers.
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>>15835586
smells like a trap, is there a confirmation is it or not?
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So in support tickets for nutaku you can't use the word spic (or spica as I was) but if you capatalize it its fine, as expected of nutaku.
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I think I might be done playing DMM games. Or more accurately, online free to play games in its entirety.

I suddenly asked myself today "what am I truly getting from these games?"
Sure, they are fun, but many things are fun. What else does it do? Nothing really.

I miss having a plot and an end goal insight in my games. DMM games like FKG and Aigis, while having some semblance of a story, has no end in sight (for obvious reasons), no thought out longterm story arcs. I tire of the free to play gameplay model entirely. If I truly want to continue seeing their porn, I can settle for a CG gallery easily.

I think I'm going to pack it up, return to my roots and start playing normal video games again and maybe use the remaining reacquired free time to build some sort of skill with this time I'm wasting.

I wish you all exceptional luck with your gacha pulls. It was nice shitposting with you all.
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I know there's anon who rips aigis cg lurking here.
I was wondering if you could enlighten me on the process of ripping. Is it unique to each dmm game, or there are general guidelines/software used for it?
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>>15835654
That's actually pretty clever.
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>>15835630
Aigis never had traps before so probably not
Niel doesn't count, since she's not actually a boy
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>>15836135
Emperor-chan coming soon™
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>>15835742
Not liking racial slurs doesn't make you an SJW, come on now. Though it's still kind of silly that they're using word censors, nobody really believes that these things work.

>>15835904
Well, I'm personally in it for the new characters. Both FKG and Aigis have decent settings and continually deliver a stream of cute girls, FKG in particular is great in how it works various aspects of flowers into the design of its characters.
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>>15836135
Valerie had me fooled as best girl till I found out.
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>>15836217
Stray got me
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>>15831874
I'm pretty sure that's normal, since Cyrus is a Gacha Unit, even if he can also be bought from TP. Since it works the same way for XP boost on Gacha Golds/Plats/Blacks where you get the XP Boost on them even if you got them from Gold Rush / Trading Post as long as the unit shows up in Gacha.
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Did shiropro die? Not loading for me.
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>>15836396
Nope, still working for me.
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>>15831874
>>15831891
I asked about this, the reply I just got was
>Definitely not a bug. No one would get banned for that.
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>>15836591
Nutaku Aigis only has banned people when the SC cheat happened (and that was only the first weeks of the game), since that not even hacking black units as a drop would give you a ban.
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>>15836073
For Aigis specifically, I use this:
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Lzlis/Downloading_and_Interpreting_Game_Files

As for other games, I'm not really sure. It does seem to vary from game to game - for example, FKG's CGs are zlib compressed rather than being direct links to pictures like Aigis, so you have to get the file and decompress them too. You'll have to ask the guys running the relevant galleries.
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>>15836591
I'll probably keep dumping every DC I get into Cyrus until they change the TP, which I expect Nutaku to do once they get their things together.
Having to dump more than 100 SCs to farm them on a 2x drop event, even if much more doable than whaling the shrine, feels like a chore so I'll probably take it easy and invest them on the collection events or the wretched Goddess.
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>>15836686
Thanks for the response. The game I have in mind is made in flash, so I'm sure its extra-annoying to rip. I guess I'll contact the guy who's in charge of the CG gallery
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When do we get the 30 SC from the shiropro collab?
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>>15837248
read info it is all there
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had to waste some SCs to get lowest cost but I'm prepared for tomorrows AW atleast. skill can be maxed with luck later if it ends up being something good.
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>>15837847
Nice! I was too lazy to maxout mine :P
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I'm gonna ask a variation of the Aigis/ShiroPro thing.

The promotion ends on the 18th. When does Aigis distribute the crystals? Next maintenance is on the 21st. Will it be before that or after?

Not sure where to get this info. Got the end date on the all-ages banner, but the banner doesn't say.

It would be nice if it's before this pick-up ends, but since it's the first time Dina's been available in like two months, it'd be just my luck if it was after.
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Welp. That's that. Absolutely terrible luck.
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>>15838948
http://aigis1000.jp/notification/detail/id/1257/
21st for Aigis, 20th for ShiroPo.
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>>15839123
So after maintenance then. Dammit. Thanks.

May as well just count them toward Anya's next revival then. More likely to see that before I see another Dina appearance. These pick-ups kind of suck. I want the old revival system with spotlights back.
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Anyone playing muvluv Open beta can give me some feedback?
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>>15840099
It's really fucking slow to load. Spam swapping between characters seems to be necessary, missiles are way too slow, and the rifle appears to be the best thing so far since even the basic enemies chunk 20%+ per hit off your life bar..
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>>15840099
Gatcha rates are pretty atrocious, but its a beta and they've stated it'll be different in release.
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>>15840140
>>15840166
how to access h scenes? I could star the game now and I don't even know if there's an option for that
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>>15840178
No clue, I assume they automatically unlock when the heart percentage rises high enough. Hopefully it doesn't take like 5 copies of a card to get an H-scene.
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What's with that 5cost increase. If nothing else atleast Anya can now tank most golems without problems
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>>15840401
Dev Tea hates dragons, this is well known.

Just look at the dragon riders.
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Oh man, that mage rush in the last map
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And Nutaku FKG gets its first bride Cactace, $20 for the first step to get a 5* (maybe 2 5*) then another $40 for a 6* Cactace followed by a whopping $50 for the bride version of Cactace.

I wonder how much money they're making on these gacah machines.
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>>15840685
I thought you got bride Cactace after you get the 6 star.
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>>15840689
No, they are just different version of old characters that you have to roll for, having the old version doesn't do anything.
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>>15840685
I wouldn't be surprised if they're making a fortune off of them, but $50 for ONE gold on top of $60 for ONE rainbow is definitely Nutaku-based greed.

As much as I like wedding outfits, I wouldn't throw down $110 even for bridal Hanamomo. Nutaku needs to price its shit properly.

In any case, I did the first four steps again, but got burned this time. Two silvers, one gold dupe (Strawberry Candle). Oh well.
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Highlight for Kanpani 2nd Anniversary event, on 17th, they will distribute a special item that allows unlimited drawing until you can pick the girl you want.
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>>15840785
The more I think about it, the more I'm starting to share my sentiments with that one other anon.

If Nutaku keeps making 5* variants of 6* girls cost more to get, the gacha is going to get toxic very quickly.

Nameless sure picked a hell of a time to bolt for the weekend. I'd hope he has a multitude of complaints to sort through when he gets back, but after the popularity gacha fiasco, I can't put my trust in Nutaku's general community when it comes to this sort of thing.
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I want to rape the testament girls.

When will they let me rape the testament girls? It would be unfair if they get to rape my girls but I don't get to rape theirs.
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>>15840996
You know what this looks like? Granblue.
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>>15841034
It's is 100% copy paste of GB plus ero CGs
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Awfully nice of them to give us a free Sapphire fairy.

>>15840401
Useless class becomes even more useless. News at 11.
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>>15840685
I really don't understand why they're going for the quick cash grab route when FKG got popular precisely because it didn't do that. FKG devs constantly try to uphold their reputation and are rewarded with a very loyal player base for it, while Nutaku keeps releasing one terrible deal after another while falling behind in the actual content front.

That said, this might be above Acolyte's level, since I expect that payment decisions are made by higher-ups rather than the staff assigned to individual games. Acolyte himself sounds like a sensible fellow, but there's little he can do if people who actually call the shots are overly greedy.
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>Frederika on boosted gacha
Do you hear that? The internal struggle between my rationale and my dick
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>>15841152
FKG has no gameplay so people will eventually get bored by it. I think Nutaku got it right this time, milking it as much as possible before hops on new hot shit
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>>15841276
browsing trough games on nutaku...
result: only one game found that is actually game
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>>15841276
>FKG has no gameplay so people will eventually get bored by it
Nigga, you don't understand how this whole mobage shit works.
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>>15841305
Nigga, i'm talking about Nutaku, Nutaku's audience is your average facebookfag, of course they will get bored very fast
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>>15841352
Doesn't explain how Pero is still popular.
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>>15827203
>Crystal
kind anon did I read that correctly, in order to get the "Rainbow Crystals" I must discarge platinum units?
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>>15841391
Gold, platinum or black. You get 20, 100 or 400 for each gacha unit of these types that you sell. Non-gacha (event and trading post-exclusive) units go at a heavily discounted price, though note that Cyrus, who is in both the TP and the gacha, can be sold for the full 20 rainbow crystals.

>>15841276
FKG has been running for 1.5 years on DMM, while the average browser game is lucky to see its first year. It is also consistently ranked above Aigis.

It's not that FKG is an inherently bad game, it's that Nutaku is mismanaging it.
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>>15841391
> I must discarge platinum units?
Gold and above.
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>>15840903
FKG has become a premium gacha parade with the chat being a whales circlejerking.
It's frreaking ridicolous but i have to admit that Nutaku knows how to jew on every single game they get,

All these assured 6* is basically the dream of every whale, pic related.
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>>15841470
There's nothing wrong with the frequency or even the circlejerk. There's no PVP aspect, and waifu exclusivity is a silly thing, so having more rainbow gachas just gets people to gamble less. Only freemium lose out.

The issue is the jewing aspect. $50 for an 11-roll and a rainbow was expected. $60 for 1-2 golds and a rainbow is debatably overpriced, depending on how shit your luck is, but still tolerable. $110 for a gold AFTER a rainbow is where we have problems.
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So apparently a DOAX game is coming to DMM. Announced at TGS.
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>>15841422
>>15841441

that make the whole thing estremely problematic for a fremium like me.
better know as, never and never.
which is sad, dark knight look badass as fuck
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>>15841516
Of course there's nothing wrong if they do that on a game like FKG whitout pvp, the problem are, just like you said, the prices starting to go up because whales permits to do that.
If the communtiy buys a roll for 50 it's fine, if buys 1 gold (2 if you ar elucky) and one rainbow may be kinda overpriced but wathever but.. holy shit 100€ for a "special" 5* unit?
What if they start rolling in "premium" units that can be get only by these special sales?
Nutaku are jews but the real problem are the freaking brainless whales that don't understand they are the mainly part of the problem.
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>>15841594
Yeah, you're pretty much boned to never get Dark Knight, Cynthia (when she comes), or Gretel (if she ever comes) because you get fuckall SC on Nutaku Aigis.
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Cute
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>>15841470
Meanwhile, this is what I have on DMM as a free player, in addition to ~35 gacha golds. 50-60 extra flower stones every month really makes a difference, you guys definitely should be rallying to bring the 2 stone/day campaigns over.

That said, I don't believe there's any problem with paid campaigns, per se, as long as the rest of the game isn't ignored and the pricing is reasonable instead of an explicit statement of "well, our players are idiots anyway, let's keep on pushing our luck".
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>>15841594
I always find these dark plate heavily armored knights so cool. Makes them look very dependable.
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>>15841718
Waht the hell, i only have 1 rainbow after a year playing
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>>15841622
>>15841718
Discord is proving themselves very much idiots in this regard. "It's my money and I got value out of it, so screw you." Jesus.

That said, what's with the price point on 5000 DMM points for guaranteed 5*? Some idiot is using it as justification for this, but does that come with an 11-roll too or something?
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>>15841738
It's okay, I only have 2 after more than 1.5 years. That guy's luck is beyond disgusting.
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>>15841583
just saw that, what are they trying to do? I am almost certain that this won't be a good move
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>>15841738
>>15841748
2-3 is the expected number for 1.5 years of play, so well, that's disgustingly lucky alright.

But I've also gotten no blacks in Aigis after 600+ SCs. I guess RNG always finds a way to get back at you.

>>15841744
There are two main types of deals on DMM.

- For 5000 DMM points (~$50), you get a 11x roll plus either any rainbow of your choice (you can technically exchange that voucher with a gold too, but if you do that FKG devs will personally visit your house and move you to an insane asylum) or a random rainbow that you didn't have.
- For 490 DMM points (~$5) total, a one-time step-up deal where you're guaranteed to get 2 random golds.

They also throw in random deals for slot flowers and such sometimes, and last Christmas saw us getting a special grab bag deal for an 11x roll, some slot/skill flowers and a guaranteed Kale. But mostly people go for the "pick your rainbow" campaigns.
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>>15840996
Who is the fire twintail girl?
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>>15841755
Depends on what kind of game it is. If it's a 3D game of some kind, it could be okay. The new Akiba's Trip game looks like it could be good from screenshots and it runs well (with hardware acceleration on, which conflicts with Aigis) in the pre-reg thing.
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>>15841815
hmm, this was one of my doubts, thanks for making it clear, and what about this akiba's trip game? Is it on the normall DMM games to come?
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>>15841821
There's a banner for it on the 18+ site, but it's on the all-ages site. Feel free to look into it or check around for some news articles about it on gaming news sites.

Pre-reg is open now and you can roll gacha for outfits for the five girls.
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>will be back in 1 hour
>09/17
u wot m8
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>>15841844
does anyone know what will be added/changed after the two day maintenance?
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>>15841806
As far as I can tell her name is moot
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>>15841880
That looks to be Mot, as in the death god that tries to eat Baal.

SMT players will know him as the chuuni floating sarcophagus.
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>>15841895
yeah, you are right
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>>15841870
It has been 10 months, about time for them to actually add new contents, right?
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>>15841790
That's what I thought, but Discord idiots will somehow justify step-up gacha isn't already a ripoff and is clearly getting worse by pretending that a single gold, even if she gets here early, is worth $50 AND is fine behind paywalled behind a $60 purchase on top of that.
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>>15841844
>9/15 ~ 9/17
>we will be back in 1 hour
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>>15841895
Then why not モト instead of confusing me into thinking she's the personification of Christopher Poole?
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>>15841905
They are the same guys that shit on you if you say that Nutaku Aigis and if you don't "support" is because of hate towards Nutaku.
Let's be honest, most of the whales in Nutaku are brainless fanboys (how?) that just care about their e-penis.
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>>15841844
Holy shit, Nutaku Kanpani is finally dead for good?
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>>15841928
I wish I had enough disposable income to defend shitty business practices like this.
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>>15841930
Would be fucking hilarious because the 17th is DMM Kanpani 2nd anniversary day.
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>>15841938
I really don't get these people. If Nutaku shafted free players by removing flower stone campaigns, but had better deals for whales in compensation, then at the very least the paying crowd could be justified in defending it by saying that it appeals better to themselves.

But EN FKG is flat-out worse than DMM for both free and cash deals, so there's really no defending it, unless you're an idiot. Even if you had a lot of disposable income, you're still better off spending it on DMM rather than Nutaku.
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Does anybody know if there's a sheet with updated values for the magic city/orc story missions?
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>>15841904
>add new contents
what
impossible
>>
I dunno about nutaku FKG being worse than DMM FKG for free players, for one week every month in the past 2 months theres been a free random gold extra with every 50 flower gem pull and with how they're being consistent with the gacha changes I doubt it'll be going anywhere soon. As a free player this is when I'm doing all my pulls, stupidly low chance of pulling a rainbow though. Yeah, there's less flower gems given out but I'd rather a 100% chance of gold rather than several 6% chances.

I think DMM doesn't have this option often so its fairly equal which is better in terms of collecting as many girls as possible. Step up gacha is something I won't touch and I've resigned myself to probably not getting a rainbow anytime soon. One thing I found amusing was how much bitching there was from the whales about how guaranteed gold was completely shit.
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>>15842029
They continued the extra gold campaign? That's a very solid option for free players, then. And yes, 5* tickets are only given on special occasions on DMM, I think we only had 5 so far.

Still, DMM FKG has handed out an average of 75 extra flower stones per month since its inception, and these have the advantage of letting your choose which golds you'd like to get.
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Jesus Christ.
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>>15842054
idiocy
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Can someone explain how to get her?
The words from the banner seems confusing.
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>>15840419
>Just look at the dragon riders.
Looking at Erenia and Nadia, two of the most broken units in the game the other 2 dragon riders are the event plat and the gold one...the gold one sucks hard, the event one is meh, but is a reliable tank.
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>>15840890
Meanwhile in Nutaku.
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>>15842148
New user will get her at those date , 1 per account
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>>15842161
Well, that really isn't a terrible change
>new event is just weeks away from being launched.
Scratch that, what's the point of turning up the cash grab and making high rarity girls even easier to get when the game has absolutely nothing going on.
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>>15842148
New users get her at the end of the date ranges, existing users on the 29th. One copy per account, as noted by the other user.
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>>15842054
>$110 for a 5*

I guess I'll never understand that sort of extreme whaling. I do spend like 500-1000 yen a month on FKG, and I've spent an extra 800 yen on pic related, but $100 or even $40 for *one* gold ....
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>>15842486
1000¥ you could not even buy one cigarette pack with that ammount here.
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Akiba's Trip, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>15842486
How was the book? From what I can find, the enemies this time are old comrades of the first book's final boss, so I wonder if they're building up towards an event where you redeem all three. Mandrake as the rainbow and Redbud and Nepenthes as golds, maybe?

In any case, they sure like teasing future characters in official works and voice profiles. We also had quite some time between the first mentions and official appearances for many characters (Euonymus, Kerria, Acacia and Saffron were each mentioned 4-5 months before they were implemented, for example), so looks like they have a fairly long-term release schedule going.
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>>15842148
She's pretty trash anyway
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>>15842760
Her skill's pretty nice. But yea, she's not all that great.
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Meteor is like a knockoff Aisha in a melee slot.

Her skill gives her 1399 attack meteors at AW85. Aisha's are 1425 at AW99, not much difference. Both 5 targets within range.

Her range is only 300 while SAW Aisha's is 630, though. But regular Aisha is 273 range.

Aisha's skill is 15 seconds. She gets 8 meteors in this time with her attack speed. Meteor's is 10 seconds. I'm... less sure about hers. It looks like she gets 7 from the attack speed numbers I see on gcwiki.

Frankly, she's pretty good for a free unit if the map allows for some reasonable placement. I don't know that it's really worth the effort to cap her out for that kind of "what if" scenario, though. But she might be nice to place in front of a wave of enemies or behind a tank that's dealing with something that has a lot of HP and defense and could use a few meteors to the face.
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>>15842930
Possible slight correction here, as I'm not 100% confident in the numbers, but Meteor's AW passive seems to be the same as Sasha's, which is a 15% reduction in frames from one attack to the next.

If that's the case, applying that to her attack speed during her skill means she actually does get 8 meteors during it, same as Aisha. That basically means range is the only major difference between the two, Aisha obviously winning that one without much of a fight.
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>>15842930
>>15842973
The main difference is that Aisha immediately starts laying meteors out of her loli butt while Mitia needs to wait for a decade before she gets to use her skill.
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>>15842190
Aigis is still up thanks to all these whales that spend money even without any event rolling, just give something to buy and they are happy.
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>>15842982
This. She needs around 49 seconds for her skill to to be ready the first time and then another 82 for it to be ready again and this is at Max skill. That really hurts.
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>>15842982
Don't forget Aisha's OP ability and class trait.
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>>15843006
SAW Aisha's cooldown with SAW is 84 seconds.

But yeah, I don't think anyone expects a sapphire to match up to a black unit's deployment skill timer in any way. Aisha's also cheaper to deploy.

We're talking about the Chinese knockoff of Aisha, so of course it's going to have some problems getting set up by comparison.
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>>15843019
What's so OP about a bit more hp and a few seconds off your CD?
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>>15843023
>bit more hp and a few seconds off your CD
Are you fucking retard?
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>>15843030
I have Aisha and I use her but she doesn't make every map faceroll brainless as most of you seem to think she does.
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>>15843045
Use your brain, moron
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>>15843045
Are you talking about DMM or Nutaku?
Because AW Aisha with her AW skill is simple broken and i don't know how you can say otherwise.
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>>15843045
Aisha is the single most powerful unit in the game.

Yeah, high-tier majin maps and such require other things, but for most event maps, if you have Aisha and a semi-decent team of event units/golds/whatever, you should have no problems whatsoever.
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So is MuvLuv dropping on the 20th?
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New girls off 2ch; Eupatorium (boneset), Commelina (dayflower), Kalanchoe and Lespedeza (Japanese clover). There's something for both lolicons and adult woman lovers this week.

Surprisingly, we now have multiple representatives for three out of the four orders of commelinids, while some of their best-known members (palms!) have no characters in the game. I guess we'll need to wait for the next summer to complete the set.
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>>15844324
That's quite an outfit.
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>>15844324
I have to say I've always loved the no hip pockets thing the nip hakama does and this is no different.
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All the gold units look quite nice. Not a fan of the rainbow, good thing thing they're near impossible to get.
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>>15841152

> I really don't understand why they're going for the quick cash grab route

At a guess? Pointy-haired boss: "Hey, the DMM version of this franchise earns way more than our localised version. Do something to catch up!"

>>15841744
> 5000 DMM points for guaranteed 5*

On the rare occasion they do "you can't pick a 6* with this 5k DMM points deal", they add on a 6* dressbloom (guaranteed +1 equip slot). THAT is what you're paying for, a pseudo-duplicate 6*.

>>15841930

Actually, isn't it approaching Nutaku's 1 year mark? Kanpani devs gave Nutaku a year's worth of content to drip-feed but they released it all at once. That implies the next delivery of content would be almost a year after day 1. A discord ping from 'nutakubixi' mentioned new content.
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>>15844324
My god. The blue girl
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The company that brought you FKG has a new game in pre-reg:

http://www.dmm.com/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=750145/

Motif: musical instruments
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>>15844711
All ages?
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>>15844719

18+ version.

http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame/social/-/gadgets/=/app_id=721388/
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>>15844711
A goddamn guitar axe.

To be honest, most of the character designs so far don't really click with me, but hey, let's see what comes out of this.
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>>15844840
That's a violin.
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>>15844853
Cello.
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>>15844684
I love her design, but solar drive damage is such a bad ability lol.
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>>15821165
>Because unless you're willing to shell out hundreds of dollars per event it's a waste of time to even try.
That only applies to gacha. The rest just requires time and autism.

That being said
>seriously contemplating spending 25 bux to get one fucking character in osawari
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>>15844874
Surely not a guitar.
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>>15821133
>covering his name

Lawl
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>>15844711
>Motif: musical instruments
They should ask Nitroplus if Ume can show up cosplaying as Kanae. She's got the pink hair and some of the demeanor down alright, even if there's something of a difference between their bust sizes.

In fact, if Sakura and Ume had a daughter, I bet she'd look more or less like her.

>>15844971
She's the event girl, so it's not like you can expect her to be excellent. Still, it's nothing a bunch of ampules won't fix.

I prefer Eupatorium, though, since she's one of the precious few brown girls in the setting.
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>>15845112
Oh, I thought he meant blue as in the hitting type girl, not to the girls actual color lol.
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>>15845120
>hitting type girl
My bad then, I didn't consider that.

If that's the case, then she gets 10% attack to party as her evolution ability, and her skill and stats are average as far as golds go. She's definitely not bad.
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Are they ever feel ashamed of themselves?
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>>15844324
Event pulls are only for the blue girl or you can also get the 6* loli?
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>>15845321
breaks are unique nutaku events goym ;^)
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>>15845331
Only the event girl and the special flowers to upgrade her.
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oh god, my sides
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>>15845394
i lost my shit when i saw that
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>>15845394
Can you blame it? This is a world full of cute girls and you're born as a giant bug with rabies.
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>>15845394
The spider one is even more ridiculous.
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I sure love Aigis guides that heavily rely on level ~250 Prince who can fucking duel just about everything and has the full morale buff!
I sure just fucking love to see me copy them just to fail because I'm below level 150!
Amazing!
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>>15845503
I also love guides that say 'look I did this with silvers this is ez pz :)" while they manage to pull the mission off by the skin of their teeth with a whole set of fully mincosted units
Yeah dude, nobody is going to fucking have that in the early game, fuck off
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>>15844711
Guess it's time to choose between this and Gochimusu. With a few exceptions, the art for Girl's Symphony seems to be superior to that of Gochimusu, though.
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>>15845525
Gochimusu somewhat concerns me because the general feel of the game is suspiciously similar to Osawari. Are they by the same company?
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>>15845503
Prince receives no buffs past 200. Even 150 vs 200 is very minimal difference, only "Big Hero" matters.
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>>15845571
What. Gochimusu is tower defense, and trial didn't have any "catching" mechanic.
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>>15845525
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201609/16116001.html

Some more info on Girl's Symphony (my JP kinda sucks, feel free to correct me):

You're a conductor who assembles his orchestra to fight stuff and retrieve "music". The game is labeled a "story RPG" supervised by the writer(?) of Psycho-Pass. During combat you can control the positioning / rows of your party to influence the outcome of the fight.

As for the collab with FKG, if you're playing both games, you'll get rewards as your character levels up. At level 30, you get Onshi in FKG and Anri in GS. No idea whether people who are already leveled past 30 in FKG will get anything.
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The surge of sadness and regret when you are scrolling through all these envelopes, knowing that you can only pick 1.
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As always lowest rarity girls are cutest, but I have to discard them in favor of higher rarity.
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So this is NZN's long lost sister.
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I noticed that our west Dragon Providence wiki got much better than japan' one in the OP
even if here not many follow the game.

http://harem-battle.club/wiki/Dragon-Providence/DP:Guidebook
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>>15846359
Most of the west wiki are better looking and organized than Jp wiki, they are just out of date for obvious reason.
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>>15846046
I have this problem right now, no clue I should pick. Contemplating just going with a solid unit like Eva or Siegrid but I just don't know.
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Come on guys, unleash your creativity!

https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/776845991513391104
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>>15846571
Pick someone has CW. You can take advance of their +3 CW with special hammer.
There're still plenty chance to get them in future
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>>15846596
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>>15846617
Both have CW so that won't make it easier for him to pick.
>>15846571
Eva is more useful than Siegrid, since the latter CW only shines in large boss battle, but well, pick with your dick if you cant really decide who is better.
>>
>>15846571
>>15846641
Glad, my waifu is 3* so i don't have to worried about who i should pick up. I have her on Nutaku but still finding her on DMM tho
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>>15846649
>my waifu is 3*
Is that Aurora ?
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>>15846596
Someone make a "butaku" t-shirt
XXL size+ of course
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>>15846596
Like this?
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>>15844711
>Motif: musical instruments
>Get Tchaikovski

This is most certainly not an instrument but if his music plays somewhere in the game, I'll shit myself.
>>
When I try to awaken a black unit on Nutaku Agis it tells me I need a 3 star(silver) unit to sacrifice but when I try it wont give me the option to use one. Is it an error or do I need them to be Class evolved?
>>
>>15847109
All AW fodder has to be CC'd (or gold un-CC'd).
>>
Did anyone else keep their exp fox? She's too cute to feed away.
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>>15847115
ahh ok. I was trying to use regular silver units. Thanks for the quick reply
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>>15847119
2
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Is something up with the 18+ Girls Symphony page? I can't get either of the buttons on the page to do anything and the link from the 18+ main page is broken (404). It also doesn't have any pre-reg info.

All ages works, though.

>>15847119
Fed her to Aisha for 99. I play on 18+, so she was just filling up an inventory slot and being invisible anyway.
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>>15847526
Works for me, but it's taking quite a bit to load.
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>>15847543
Okay, it works for me now. Clicking the button a little while ago just kept reloading the page for some reason. The link on the 18+ games page is still 404ing, though.
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>finally check out DMM ver of FKG
>get the one girl I always wanted but never got

Best decision ever. Also you guys weren't kidding about the deal being way better here
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>>15847840
She also has 2nd evol so you will busy with her for a while.
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Lewdsuit here I come!

Had scary terrific luck lately, got yukata Viola on her last highlight day with a single pull as well.
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>>15844711
Weird. I didn't see any gatcha button on pre-reg.
>>
If someone with better reading ability than I could clarify: What does the Girls Symphony pre-reg page say about the units? I know it says you can keep two, but what is it saying about the third unit that you didn't lock down? Do you get it, too, or not?
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>>15848247
Of course not. You get to keep 2, when you roll next one, you must decide which one to discard. If you don't press any buttons, new one is discarded.
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>>15848257
Obviously, but is that what it says in the 5th note, or does it say something else? Why does it mention three units after already covering that you can only lock two?
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>>15848269
If you mean 2nd last clause, it says
"In case you already have 2 units and you get 3rd one, you must use 'switch' button to decide what units are left"
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>>15848290
That's the one. Thanks. So definitely only two. No sidelining a third one as an extra.
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>>15847840
If you joined today, you'll have your beginner's bonus synchronized with the silver week log-in campaign and the 1.2mil user milestone campaign, so yeah, you're going to get a lot of flower stones alright.

Good luck on your end-of-sheet golden ticket, I think that one still comes with a 7.5% rainbow chance.
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>>15844711
If they as generous as they are in FKG I'll give it a try.
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Is anyone playing Idol Wars?
>>
>>15849219
Is there anything to it at all? The only event seems to be Dream Fest-related and the normal quest is really boring. Everything else seems to be adding new characters to the Gacha.
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>>15849582
Dream Fest is pretty fun.
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So, Aeigs keeps crashing on Nutaku, it says it is out of memory. I looked up the issue but did not really find anything helpful, have any of you dealt with this?
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Y'know, as far as Nutaku-exclusive characters go, they at least picked a decent fetish this time.
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>>15849830
Well the artwork looks a large sight better than the others, I will still not bother with it.
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>>15849825
Never happened to me. Do you use a x64 browser?
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>>15849839
I use Firefox, not sure which version.
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>>15849903
I've been using this for a long time myself. Being a fork of Firefox it should be familiar to you and might help you there. Give it a shot.

https://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-win64.shtml
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Shes Fast!!!
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Is Vice commander Elva even worth using and improving? She seems to be fairly average but cost alot.
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>>15852547
Dark Knights are a pretty bad unit already and she has a horrible kit for what the class normally has.
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>>15853191
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