Visual Novel translation status >Amagami - 1st day patch

Sekai/Denpa
>Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title Steam released, uncut 80% of new content done, 3rd 64% translated
2236 A.D. - 100% translated
>Maitetsu - 27.11% translated
Nenokami - 99.96% translated, Indiegogo finished
Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 100% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
WEE 3 - 100% translated
>Chrono Clock - 32.24% translated, kickstarted started
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
>Tenshin Ranman - 43.46%
Darekoi - 100% translated
>Wagamama High Spec -Demo is 100% translated, overall 22.82% translated
Hoshizora no Memoria - 29% translated
Memory's Dogma - 100% translated
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Ley Line - picked up
Baldr Sky - Picked up both 1 and 2
SakuSaku - Picked up
Koikuma - Picked up
Fatal Twelve - Picked up


Frontwing
Corona Blossom - Vol 1 released, vol 2/3 upcoming
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter halted, will be restarted
Island - Picked up
Grisaia no Senritsu - Picked up


Visual Arts
Little Busters - Picked up
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Degica
Muv Luv - Released, uncut patch still to come
Muv Luv Alternative - Winter release
Schwarzesmarken - Through Greenlight
Kiminozo - Picked up


Aksys
Collar x Malice - 2017 release
Period Cube - 2017 release
Bad Apple Wars - 2017 release
Code: Realize fandisc - Picked up


Other
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness - 9/13 release
Steins;Gate 0 - 9/23 release
Root Letter - 10/28 release
Dead End Junction - September release
Dies irae - Announced, Kickstarter planned
ChuSingura46+1 - Ch 2+3 released
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common + Mari route translated, Calen 25%
Taisho Alice - Vol 1 fully translated, all 4 volumes to be translated, crowdfunding plans scrapped
Love Sweets - Picked up
Noratoto - Picked up
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Hakoniwa no Gakuen - Picked up
Enigma - Picked up
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

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>>15790280
>Maitetsu - 27.11% translated
After 5 months, more that 1/4 of the VN is translated. If we use basic math, Maitetsu will be fully translated in 2018. By that time, I'll be readying it in japanese.

>Capcha: Select the trains.

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>>15790407

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It would appear the Euphoria and Haruka standalone wallscrolls have begun to show a quantity remaining.

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>>15790407
>Hapymaher - 46.57% translated, 24% edited
>Chrono Clock - 32.24% translated, kickstarted started
1 month after announcement vs 1 year after announcement. Never stops being hilarious.

>>15790642
You are just jealous that dovac singlehandedly saved entire industry both domestic and abroad.

>>15790642
Don't bully Dovac-sama

5つ星のうち1.0残念＞＜　自分には合わなかった
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ROMEO BTFO

>>15790748
Is it too early to start bitching about Dovac burning his bridges with Baldr?

Of course not! It's never too early to shit on Dovac.

Weekly reminder that no anti-honorific commie shitter has been able to translate this simple dialogue >>15728018.

>>15790642
It's even more hilarious when you take into account that Hapymaher is almost twice as long as Chrono Clock.

>>15791351
Just you wait for the kickstarter.

>The minori fund-raising project --- $172,494.01

After the summer sales and the release of the first chapter of Supipara the founds increased less than an 10%, kek.

What is up with the White Album 2 translations, machine translation ?

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>>15791484
Why is rain wet?

>>15791469
Look forward to the all-ages Himawari sales!

(I wonder when people will learn that all-ages sell poorly and it sells at least better if there is nudity)

>>15791529
An all-ages (no cenosred) VN can sell well, the problem is that VN is kinetic, episodic and no one know if the rest of the chapter will be funded and released.

>>15790600
Order Number - 209246
Order Date - 2016-09-02 05:15:02

http://mangagamer.org/announcements/

I imagine haro'll probably add more in the coming fridays.

Are you hyped for a bunch of hardcopies /jp/?

>>15791663
I'm hyped for the NTR title.

>>15790642
>Hapymaher - 46.57% translated, 24% edited
>Chrono Clock - 32.24% translated, kickstarted started
I suppose MG got the license a while ago but this simply makes it more clear how MG usually wants to have all details worked out when they announce something. SP doesn't do it.

>>15791663
One hard-copy and two nukige. One of them will be Sisters.

>>15791663
I'd love it if the partner is Key and they were doing adult version of little busters. Even though I expect Key to be so ful of themselves that they think they can forget they had adult versions and only do all-ages.

>>15790280
>last week - Chrono Clock 31.44%
>this week - Chrono Clock 32.24%
How exactly they plans to release this in January 2017 with 1% per week translation progress?

>>15791680
From how the translators describe it, MG usually acquires the title, assign it to a translator and have them work on it a little before announcing it. Mostly because of the con dates being known, so they plan around them for announcements.

It's why you will usually hear about the staffs having secret projects long before anything is mentioned. The added benefit is Good Haro has a chance to put up a promotion site for it, or at least do up a small blurb, depending on the game.

SP just gets titles and announces them straight away, and then slowly finds someone to translate it, which is why progress is stagnant for long periods of time. For the ones already 100%? I don't know, all-ages scripting troubles?

>>15791726
Things stuck at 100% is "The developers are ignoring our attempts at releasing it".

>>15791788
Ah, yes. Poor Sekai, always the "victim" :')

How fucked are Sekai with the Baldr situation?

>>15791842
They just lost one of the best translators they could get for the project and from the sound of things, they can't exactly afford to shill money out for anyone of comparable quality anyway, so they have to rely on things done in-house instead. Expect delays, delays, and more delays, with a steam release somewhere in the 2020 range, give or take a year.

>>15791663
I really want Umineko physical.

>>15791695
Visual Arts has expressed interest in releasing 18+ content, ecstasy would probably be ideal for that. But they won't do it.

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>>15791858
In Japan Visual Arts releases games likes this no problem.

Only EOPs think Key is all there is to VA.

>>15791529
Himawari will sell poorly because people will buy it, go 'woah, who got sci fi in my no-name lolige' and then steam refund it.

>>15791858
>>15791695

Key ero is legit terrible, though. They're better off all-ages, and that isn't something I would really say for anything else.

>>15791663
We'd be lucky to get a moege in there. It's probably a hardcopy and two nukige.

>>15791916
It's about bonding with the heroines.

Say, I am learning Japanese now, which kinds of VNs are good to practice reading hiragana anyway?

>>15791663
I personally think that MG saved at least one prominent game from Otakon. Probably a nukige, but it could be one people really want like a new Lilith release. That in particular is probably a pipe dream though.

It could be the loli or NTR release Good Haro has been teasing that could garner a lot of hype. I'm sure people would like it if they NTR'd Lose, but I really doubt it. People have been asking for Oyako Rankan a lot, but that also seems unlikely and WA2 is delusional.

They already announced an otome, a yaoi, and a yuri title already, so I'm not expecting those at all.

Since it's about 4 weeks away, there'll probably be a total of 6 announcements. Since Anime Central had a shit ton of hard copies, I'm not expecting more than 2 here.

>>15792027
None.

>>15792027
https://vndb.org/v5244 is the easiest VN to read
But if you want to practice hiragana, I don't think "reading" VNs will be helpful

>>15792027
On Steam you could look into Go Go Nippon, Tokyo School Life, Malus Code and I think Nekopara. They should have dual language and give you some help learning.

Though specifically hiragana and katakana is just pure grind. I suggest a flash based trainer.

>>15792027

None. Come back in a year when you've actually learned something.

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>>15792043
To me, its going to be only 3 announcements, because of how many titles they're working right now. If Haro puts anothe mistery box, it will be for a Hardcopy (Maybe Umineko or Higurashi)

>>15792071
>>15792061
For what its worth, I actually enrolled on uni classes for it

I never expected to learn hiragana that fast only two weeks in

>>15792100

You will literally get nothing out of attempting to read VNs in japanese with your current knowledge. End of story.

>>15792084
But what would they hard copy? It doesn't feel like anything has been a huge seller. I could see Fata Morgana maybe. W Happiness hard copy would be appreciated, but unexpected since they usually require sales first.

>>15792100
Sounds like me. I started looking at Japanese 4 months before classes, but it looked hard so I figured they would have a strategy for it at class and waited.

Then classes started and you were expected to learn hiragan and katakana in 2 weeks. No tricks, just grind.

>>15792121
Fata Morgana maybe if it required less than usual to break even.
Maybe Gahkthun since it did well enough to warrant Sona-nyl. It could have made the quota recently.
Eden might get a hardcopy to help Supipara along.

>>15791663
I would really like to see MG make a partnership with Squeez or May-be Soft, their nukige looks amazing and I am sure they would be sucesses in the west.

>>15792158
I would like May-be Soft too. Henshin seems fun.

>>15792149
>>15792121
Oh, and maybe Ozmafia. They don't seem to take Steam sales into account though.

>>15792161
Henshin would be awesome since it isn't the same as all oher games.

>>15791552
It doesn't help that it almost killed minori and people who usually like minori's works think it's boring.

>>15792043
The Monobeno dream is a pipe dream. I can't see it ever happening.

I would like to see a wstar license, but that's probably too expensive for MG.

>>15791672
https://vndb.org/v19290 possibily awaits.

>>15792158
I want August and Tone Works but I know it is almost impossible

>>15792254
This one https://vndb.org/v12949 is better

>>15792254
I was really crap, way too short.

>>15792261
I've actually been interested in this one for awhile. It even has a sequel.

>>15792253
Biggest dream is kodomo-h games.

>>15791469
Supipara has been hanging under 1000 copies on Steamspy, hard to think of it as anything other then a complete failure, despite Eden selling ridiculously well. I have to feel bad for nbkz, he came over for AX to promote his second chance to revive his pet project Supipara with a new market, but it fell flat on its face.

>>15791663
I wouldn't be surprised if MG picked up https://vndb.org/v18781 , as the MiKandi Japan newsletter last month talked heavily about it, said it would make sense later why they would talk heavily about it, but also said they weren't translating it themselves. If not MG, I'd expect someone else to have it, but MG seems to make the most sense.

>>15792283
Jail

>>15792300
Definitely not Sekai and JAST since they only announce at conventions like Mangagamer. Maybe Frontwing, but still pretty unlikely. Mangagamer is the only one left by process of elimination.

>>15792312
Of course, they could announce it next year, but it would be really weird for Mikandi to say anything now if it wasn't going to be announced this year.

>>15792300
Sounds like a good choice to me. It's going to be very quotable too.

>"You need to have more faith in your dick's potential and power."

>>15792300
>I have to feel bad for nbkz

Don't. He's disliked on bbspink etc. He always hated the core eroge buyer audience. Well, that's probably the reason why he tries o hard to push non-H shit to you EOP pals.

Here's another good NTR candidate.

https://vndb.org/v14556

>>15792357
I was wonder when somebody was going to post that.

>>15792349
>He always hated the core eroge buyer audience.

Is that why ruined Amamiya Yuuko's character development?

>>15792253
Learn Japanese. Sumi's route and after in Monobeno are good enough to warrant it.

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>Meikyuu was released three months ago, 18+ will take at least another month
>Baldr may as well be cancelled
>Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing

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Hey, I didn't know Meguca was in Sorcery Jokers!

>>15792259
Tone Works is Visual Arts

>>15792357
Disgusting, I prefer a normal NTR.

>>15792259
August is not for the hands of EOPs.

>>15792443
https://youtu.be/8TkQWDBEAc4

Somebody translate the opening song for me.

>>15792349
Sounds like he would be best friends with Dovac.

>>15792450
Tururu, tururu, - tururu, lalala... ---

>>15792458
What even drives a person to post braindead shit like this?

>>15792450
Now I have something to play in this month because Persona 5 is too expensive

>>15792450
Do you want me to?

>>15792357
I think Mangagamer mentioned that someone requested interracial porn. That was a long time ago though.

>>15792450

Why do you ask for an translation in a thread for EOPS?

Try there -> >>15789620

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>>15792300
Yeah that would make sense.

>>15792524
Translation requests anywhere on /jp/ get deleted by mods.

Especially when someone makes a separate thread for it.

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>>15792300
>Non-blood-related Brother/Sister Incest
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME

>>15792550
That's because Kuroneko is best girl.

I really doubt it, but I hope we get a minori title. Preferably Natsuzora.

>>15792569
Didn't they already announced a minori title? Seems like the new title is coming out in English at the same time as the Japanese version.

>>15792357
Jesus fuck, please no

>>15792253
MG would literally ascend to Gods if they ever announced uncensored Monobeno. It's quite unfortunate they aren't able to go after it because of fictional characters being real.

>>15792420
is that a game by 3rdeye? looks a lot like gensou no idea

>>15791469
I don't see the Supipara series continuing past Chapter 2 after such abysmal sales of the first chapter. Each chapter will sell less and less, which is what happens with episodic releases. Its an expensive series and the sales don't justify continuing it.

>>15792592
>a newer game by some company looks like its older one

Don't you say.

>>15792583
It'll most likly be Oyako Rankan unless MG got another vn from Lilith after forever.

>>15792577
Newer minori titles are shit though, I want something older before they started considering the western market for their releases.

>>15792607
Soreyori and Tsuminohi are okay.

>>15792588
Do they not do the whole, "btw we're 18" thing in Monobeno?

>>15792606
I'm not so sure. MG has announced 2 things from the same company before, and Oyako Rankan and Rance VI are entirely different games. It's just that such occurences are still rare, especially since MG has so many companies to choose from nowadays.

>>15792626
I don't know, but there are people who enjoy claiming that Himawari is impossible to localize because they say they are young. Like it actually matters when you can rewrite it to legal ages.

>>15792632
Oyako Rankan is one of the most popular NTR titles that MG could get access to, it also has the hallmarks of a successful release for MG: gameplay, ero heavy, H OVA. If the new partner title is the one from Mikandi's newsletter, then that only leaves MG's existing partners for such a game and only Alicesoft and Lilith really have much in the way of NTR.

>>15792626
Not in the game, not even a disclaimer, only in small letters on the box.

In the game there are some indirect references to Natsuha's age, like Tooru say she's not in her 反抗期 (rebellious phase) yet.

What age this rebellious phase starts at?

And all that aside, main plot essentially starts by Natsuha's first period. How do you spin that? How do you spin the scene from her perspective that leave no doubts with portrayal of her childish thoughts and childish usage of Japanese?

>>15792655
Girls's first period can be reached at 18+ years, depending in the hormones.

>>15792665
In the game there are special circumstance, she grows up overnight and gets it, but that only serves to hammer down the point that normally she's too young to have it.

I know people say that Monobeno is the greatest lolige ever, but what other lolige seem conceivable.

>>15792674
Your Diary + H?

You get based Kantoku art.

>>15790276
https://mikanosuke.wordpress.com/2016/08/04/apathy-midnight-collection-vol-1-fan-translation-progress-update-4-8-2016/
You might want to add this project too since it came back to life and this time translator is planning to finish it.

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>>15792680
Is the new golden age of fantranslations coming back? Will TakaJun be next?

>>15792655
Technically the first menstruation period can happen as late as 15 years of age. But, yeah, it's a stretch.

>>15792655
>How do you spin that?
By claiming that she is not real, she is just drawing nigga, like if you cant see difference between drawing and reality you have serious problem with your head and should seek medical help.

>>15792674
Doesnt Chuablesoft have one thats fairly good

>>15792645
Lilith NTR VN's aren't nothing special, the ones from Elf are better, like https://vndb.org/v470

>>15792712
Friend I do see it, but you should realize that the writer of Monobeno took deliberate steps to make sure the readers aren't reminded of it too often.

That's the problem. Or the great thing about Monobeno.

Sekai seems to have got some new person for Denpasoft stuff. After the Nutaku deal, and with the declining Steam sales, they probably view building it up as a higher priority.

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>>15792719
You could always say that Monobeno is a fictional novel, like Lolita and set in another world far from us, where the you can have sex with a 13+ years old because of fictional traditions.
If they can buy all the Yokai shit (which doesn't exist irl so far we know) in Monobeno, something like Natsuha/Alice's ages is nothing.

>>15792791
Lolita's sexual content is vastly exaggerated. There's not even any explicit sex scenes in the whole novel. All of it is off screen, the closest you get is when Humbert gets Lolita to jerk him off inadvertently.
But many novels feature sex with children, and dozens more feature sex scenes between teenagers. Which all would be illegal if it was video taped, but because it's literature it's fine.

Technically lolicon isn't (federally) illegal in the US anyway. The problem is that it's in a gray zone, and if any government agency tries to target people for it for whatever reason, they can probably easily convince a jury that it fails the Miller test.

In general most companies are just too scared about loli. It's way easier to just go with something that's easy to handwave like 1000 year old vampires or teenage girls with unmentioned ages (since most VN heroines in general are more accurately 15-18, not 18 and over). Monobeno carries a lot of risk because everyone is scared. I mean, even if MG did get the license, they distribute out of Japan, so if they were to come up with some disclaimer about checking your own country's laws before purchasing they'd probably be as legally safe as they're gonna get. I mean, you could probably import Monobeno or grab it digitally right now without little worry about being pinched for CP. But that certainly isn't enough for anyone to try to take on that risk.

Monobeno is especially a hard sell since it's actually a plotge. I can't imagine going through all the trouble as a publisher to make sure you don't get FBI'd just to get a few hundred or thousand sales off of a game about having sex with children. There are way more marketable titles out there.

>>15792674
I've always been pro Complets game library. Their titles are mainly boy on girl or boy on adult woman. Short and most likely cheap as well.

Seems like a fairly safe genre to bring over since there is zero older man with younger girl content.

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>>15792814
You and me know about Monobeno being a Plotge, but most of the people thinks that is Smug Lewd Girls: The VN. Isn't that hard to sell. Lolicon (like myself) will buy it right away.
Anyone can do the Jast, where they make a patch for all the loli porn.

And Monobeno is one of the few VN who're famous enough in the english community just to make it marketable.

>>15792814
I don't think lolicon is that hard to sell. Kodomo no Jikan sold about 1000 kickstarter volumes and brought in 185k.

And sure, it didn't sell for porn. It sold because people want Japanese culture and hate western society bullying.

>>15792814
While loli is hard to sell because of legal issues, it's not that hard to sell to its starved intended audience.

Just toss it over to kotaku or ANN, and their outrage will give free publicity. MG doesn't rely on physical publishers anyways, unlike Seven Seas who were screwed over when ANN were mad about KnJ.

>>15792885
KnJ's content is super tame. They do not even fuck until Rin is out of school. See how well Comic LO tankobons kickstart and then you'll have a good analogy.

>>15793045
Learn french

>>15793112
Why are you replying to that escaped mental patient?

What are your most anticipated releases?

Fan: Yosuga no Sora
MG: Da Capo III
Jast: Eiyuu*Senki
S/D: SakuSaku
All other: Angel Beats

Too bad literally all of these except DCIII probably won't be released this year or the next.

>>15793559
Majo Koi Nikki, SakuSaku, SukiSuki, and Hapymaher

>>15793559
Fan: Clover days/Daitoshokan
MG: Da Capo III/Sukisuki
Jast: Schatten
Sekai: Sakusaku
All others: Rewrite+/Island

I just want my Moege. Couldn't care less about Baldr, Dies, and Subahibi

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>>15791686
>One of them will be Sisters.
Please be fucking true.

>>15793559
Rance. Maggot Baits. Bocchi Musume. Hapymaher. Sona-Nyl. Sumaga. Trample on Schatten. Eiyuu Senki. Steins;Gate 0. Grisaia. Monmusu Quest.

Also Princess Maker 5, please. Please!

>>15793112
The french project is worse than machinetl. Just wait for the jew of Beast's Lair.

>>15793707
>Daitoshokan
Somehow I doubt this will go anywhere.

>>15793559
SukiSuki, Rance, Maggot baits. Don't really care about the rest except maybe Sona-Nyl.

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>>15793559
Fan: Sayonara wo Oshiete.
Based Cafe saving the fantl scene. I don't give a fuck about the rest, i don't need to wait for a patch to use google translation.

MG: Rance 5D+VI, Kyonyuu Fantasy, Bokuten and Sona-Nyl.
Jast: Eiyuu*Senki, Django never.
Sekai: Meikyuu 18+, will buy Leyline and Baldr Sky if they make a 18+. If they don't i'll pirate the all-ages version.
Others: SUBAHIBI FUCK YOU MOOGY and Enigma.

>>15793707
Fan: Mahoyo/Daitoshokan
MG: Da Capo III/Sukisuki/Happymaher/Rance/PE WH/Dal Segno/Sorcery Jokers
Jast: Sumaga (for 2020?)
Sekai: G Meikyuu / Tenshi Ramen / Chrono Clock
All others: Rewrite+/Schwarzesmarken/Kimizono/Island

>>15793781
Dont get me wrong, I'm under no delusion that Daitoshokan will get finished. It's just one of the things on the fan translation side that I would like to get finished. Clover days is also probably going to sekai seing whole the translator works for them.

If anything MG has a lot of games I want. Da Capo and Sukisuki are just my most wanted, but i'm also buying Sorcery Jokers, Shiei no Sona-Nyl, Rance, the PE fandisk,Bokuten, Himawari, and Del Sango,

>>15793928
The translators doing Daito are pretty bad

>>15793928

>Clover days is also probably going to sekai seing whole the translator works for them.

Considering that Alcot has worked with the Western market before and the Vita release is by Yeti, that is very likely.

Probably for the best as long as Vita stuff doesn't screw up anything, as a Denpa/Nutaku release would likely be based on Clover Day's Plus.

>>15793559
Fan: Majo Koi, Majikoi
MG: Himawari, Rance
JAST: I really just want my Nitro+
Sekai: 18+ Grisaia
Other: Steins;Gate 0, Subahibi

I expected Baldr Sky to be green, after Aroduc finally broke his silence on the project.

>>15793559
Fan: Nothing really catches my eye, but I don't pay much attention to fan projects until they release. Too many die before completion.
MG: Sona-Nyl by a mile. .
Jast: Sumaga
Sekai: Ruins everything they touch. It's all dead to me.
Other: Psycho-Pass might be good, and having a Paranoia reference in the title is bonus points.

did arudoc really not know that sucky project was going to get baldr sky? or did he know but not expect that they were going to try to stiff him? it's too bad he couldn't have leaked dive 1 at least before the official announcement. I bet they would have found dovac hanging from a cieling fan if that had happened.

>>15794564
He's been working on it for over a year. Even if we've known a lot of publishers have been trying to acquiring the license, that doesn't mean it's guaranteed. He also obviously didn't want anyone to know he was working on it, since Doddler (and a few others) leaked he was working on the TL on accident because they assumed SP had already made a deal with him.

It is a shame that Cudora probably won't release dive1. Not only would that have guaranteed people actually got to play the game earlier than 2020, it would have done a dent to SP's sales in the long run, I imagine.

What happened with Sekai Project? When did they get so big? I stopped paying attention a few years ago and now they're huge.

>>15794733
>When did they get so big?
One word.
Nekopara.

>>15794733
Just take a look at how many projects they have active...

Whats reserve like, i always like going old school sometimes

I GUARANTEE you Aroduc is going to get fed up with Sekai Project and leak the Baldr Sky patch. I guarantee it.

>>15794863
I wish

>>15794867
It's machine code.

>>15792635
ages and years are a canon part of the story in himawari....
pls dont make claims when you dont know anything but i guess you really want that 18+ so badly you'll be willing to have the story change for it

>>15792635
>>15794893
Himawari is getting localized though. And its h content is so inconsequential. Why is this a discussion?

>>15794909
Some people are still triggered they're not getting a 9 year old doujin game instead of the modern remake.

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Why are companies always so stupid about this? I've seen it not just exclusively with VNs too. If a game doesn't do well, they always see it as "Well I guess people don't want any more of that series" instead of "Hm maybe they don't like what we're doing with this entry in the series." Why are they so stupid that they can't actually fucking read what people are saying instead of drawing a conclusion based on numbers?

>>15794950
Because they don't read what people are saying.

>>15794950
Because their publisher (you know who) tells them that.

>>15792674

Galette's library is another pretty popular one. https://vndb.org/p3290

Only problem is that I think that brand might be in the middle of dying because a lot of the staff they use is working for other companies. Their main writer, for example, is working on trinoline right now.

There's also Iris titles, but that's visual arts.

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>>15794950
Because they don't know the market at all. They just follow what is popular (Nekopara) for something similar.
"The client is always right" can be tricky as well. Is just finding your clients and sell them what they wanted.

>>15794966
And continued failures don't make it apparent that maybe there are specific reasons for the popularity? It's like everyone trying to make R-rated movies after Deadpool did well without realizing WHY it did well.

>>15794950
Because all Product A not selling confirms to them is that Product A doesn't sell, not that Product B would. It doesn't matter how many people clamor for Product B if the company never looks outside of the numbers anyway.

>>15794973
That's the point. They need to stop being fucking retarded idiots and look outside the numbers. WHY IS THIS SO HARD TO DO?

>>15794972
You would think that the cliche storm that is "anime+Japan+catgirls+titties" would clue Japanese publishers in about Nekopara's popularity in the West.

https://twitter.com/MiKandiJapan/status/768785937069256704

Well?

>>15794978
YES, I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE FUCKING MORONS. BUT THEY CONTINUE TO DEFY MY EXPECTATIONS.

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>>15794977
Because you can only have one or two shots. Localization can be expensive as hell and not worth if didn't sell well.

My thinking about new companies is that they need to do two or three shots before leaving all the market, because you can make it with the feedback you gain from the loss.

Some of you seriously underestimate key aspects of businesses and the risk of expanding the market of a product overseas. Remember the VN market is already tough enough in Japan.

>>15795000
Then how about communicating with people before taking your first shot?! You know, like some actual competent companies have been doing??????

I mean, FUCK!

>>15795014
Some are influenced by other people in the business (Like Sekai's view about ero, Nekopara selling good, etc), What Chuable's president did was a bold move, telling people about their desire to bring VN to the west and asking for the best place to start. That's why Chuable is in MG's side instead of Sekai's and why SukiSuki is now one of the most hyped VN in the scene.
And stop writing like a teenanger. I fucking hate it.

>>15795014
They do. It is called focus groups and involves finding 20 random strangers in town and ask them what they think and what would make them buy it.

And it is a retarded strategy because it has only gotten them non-buyers to tell them why they will never buy their games.

>>15794986
>professional translator
>can't use google

Now that's faith inspiring.
Second guy is right. IMO though I'd swap it for one of those memetic self-help mantras from the 2000s

>>15795068
Good! My GOAL in life is to annoy you!

On a serious note, that's exactly it. That is what they all need to be doing. SukiSuki is going to sell huge, YUGE amounts, and all because he actually, HOLY SHIT! ***TALKED!!!!*** TO PEOPLE! WHAT AN IDEA!

>>15794793
Reserve is pretty crappy, but also extremely short.

Reserve 1/2 is more fun.

>>15794863
He probably would have done it when he posted that blog post if he was ever going to do it. He's occassionally a freelancer, so he probably didn't want to ruin his reputation as one.

>>15794959
I wouldn't be surprised if Sekai lied. Worst girl in School Days.

In Baldr Sky's case though, it didn't seem likely to hit the mainstream the same way Muv Luv did anyways though. Note that despite being a gameplay eroge like Baldr Sky, Rance made more of a splash. The (mainstream Steam) audience being uninterested in Baldr Sky wouldn't be entirely wrong at least.

>>15795008
I honestly assumed for the longest time that the VN localization company pays for most of the costs like voices and such while splitting profits with the original company. What does the original company have to spend costwise?

>>15794950
Honestly, as easy as it is to complain about censorship, that generally isn't a make or break factor most of the time on Steam (off Steam or Kickstarter would be a different issue). Steam versions of titles generally sell better than off site uncut releases, especially in successful products, although off site sales have been improving, and there have been hits (If My Heart Had Wings, pre-uncut release Grisaia) which were successful even without an official patch or off site release at the time.

The reasons a title usually fail are much more nuanced and hard to get feedback from, as the main issue usually is "your product didn't look interesting, or didn't get noticed, by the audience you were going after", rather then "people who knew about you decided not to support you because they didn't like something you did". When Frontwing asked for feedback on why they were doing poorly with Corona Blossom, the majority of the feedback was everyone giving their individual, specific grievance by people who were already critical of it and probably would have had other reasons not to buy it if they were fixed. But Corona Blossom wasn't suppose to target the audience who knew who Frontwing is or what they were doing, it was suppose to capture Nekopara's audience, and it's failure to live up to those expectations were it didn't become a viral hit. There is no answer or simple feedback, or any kind of simple fix that would have gotten around that, it's non trivial to create a viral hit, especially now that the market is much more saturated.

>>15794735
Oh, that was them? Makes sense then.

>>15794763
Yeah that's why I was confused. I also checked out their VNDB page and it's huge too.

I hope my future translation company grows that fast.

>>15795094
He's not going to do it under his own name you fucking pringus. A patch will be mysteriously leaked at some point and he will assume no responsibility.

>>15794735
>>15795101
You realize Sakura Spirit was LONG before Nekopara.

>>15794965

Looking through the tags on vndb, https://vndb.org/v5296 also seems like a pretty relevant title if mangagamer wanted to translate a lolige.

Though to be honest, I think it's probably an NTR title. If I recall, haro doesn't like lolicons, so even if mangagamer were to have a title like that I don't think she'd want to tease it.

>>15795101
Nah, it's not entirely great for a company to grow too fast. Companies that grow too fast during booms tend to collapse extremely fast during busts.

I personally think that it's really likely that Sekai won't get to release Baldr Sky because of a failed KS or total collapse. They can starve off the latter with Winged Cloud sales, but they'll have to constrict tightly at some point. Their Japanese localization efforts will be the first to suffer.

>>15795096
Doesn't really matter when uncensored Steam games sell best. Because as a company you shouldn't make choices like "Let's spend money on getting less sales". Even if it works out, it is retarded.

>>15795125
What if it were a lolige, except male? I forget what the name for that is.

>>15795127
Well that makes sense, too. I wouldn't want to take on all these projects and then be screwed when for whatever reason it becomes impossible to sell the finished product.

On a side note, I just checked Mangagamers site, WHO approved "Funbag Fantasy" as the title for Kyonyuu Fantasy? When has "funbag" ever been an erotic phrase? That's so bad it actually turned me off.

>>15795142
A kusoge?

>>15794588


>It is a shame that Cudora probably won't release dive1. Not only would that have guaranteed people actually got to play the game earlier than 2020, it would have done a dent to SP's sales in the long run, I imagine.

I can't imagine a better way to help sales then to have Dive 1 leak now. Muv Luv Alternative's $1.25 million was largely hyped because various people with an audience gave it unanimous glowing reviews for years before the kickstarter, setting the stage for a huge hit. Other Rance titles have such a large potential because everyone played Sengoku. Eushully titles, if ever brought over, would benefit greatly from Kamidori. Baldr's Sky primary issue is no one outside of the VN community has heard about it, something that would be fixed if people could play it (and having Dive 2 unavailable would give reason to support the future release, though even if both were leaked, it would probably still be a net gain considering the quality of the franchise and the couple years of glowing reviews and franchise awareness it would generate).

>>15795119
Yeah, it was a combination of the lewd of Sakura Spirit and youtubers like Game Grumps giving free advertisement to it by mocking it. Incidentally, Go Go Nippon benefited from the same phenomenon, and helped to convince MG to focus more on Steam.

MG probably gets a lot less money from Steam than Sekai except maybe for Yuri Ghosts, Ozmafia, and Eden, but an extra few hundred sales per title is probably enough to convince MG to keep making Steam releases.

>>15795142

Being that it was stated that it would be pandering to "loli or NTR", I doubt it's a shota game(Is there even such a thing? That sounds super niche). There's not much crossover between the loli/shota markets anyway. And further, she doesn't care for shota either, if I recall.

>>15795148
Funbag is cheap porn slang. Might be nigger or something. It's a nonserious game overall, and Kyonyuu Fantasy is hardly a serious title, so I personally just let it slide.

>>15795183
>Is there even such a thing? That sounds super niche
There is, and it is.

>>15795166
>MG probably gets a lot less money from Steam than Sekai except maybe for Yuri Ghosts, Ozmafia, and Eden, but an extra few hundred sales per title is probably enough to convince MG to keep making Steam releases.

All ages Sonohana and Higurashi also did very well, and Umineko while probably disappointing compared to expectations built by Higurashi, sold thousands and will continue to sell. Even the titles they complain about, Fata Morgana and Tokyo Babel, appear to be over 1500.

For the most part, even titles that did bad on Steam still pushed decent numbers when compared to MG's store, and the failures were generally failures on both platforms.

Will never forgive MG for not calling it Final Fantitty

>>15795125
Now that I look at it, that game looks like exactly my kind of thing. I like lolis and I like cafes and I like non-Japanese settings in Japanese VNs. So now I get to be depressed for years as it never gets translated and I never learn Japanese.

>>15795183
There's a VN for almost every niche genre. Not that those types of VNs are too likely to get localized.

There's even a VN series that involves having sex with the main characters own half insect half human kids. Though I forgot what it was called.

>>15795148
Once again Arunaru triggers autists with his masterful name choices. I can't wait to see Yuki in SukiSuki or the Archfiends in Rance.

>>15795225
Yes, because people with autism totally read eroge. THINK before you post.

>>15795212
I still think they should have just been stupid and called it Oppai Fantasy or flat out Boob Fantasy if they were trying to come up with a name that resonates with anime fans who would buy porn on the name alone like Boob Wars.

>>15795208
Oh, I remember Higurashi did well. I didn't know about all ages Sono Hara doing well though.

Steam spy is unreliable for the low numbers MG gets, so I wouldn't count on Fata and Tokyo Babel getting over 1.5k. But still much better overall than when Mangagamer was lucky to sell a thousand copies of something.

>>15795208
>Fata Morgana and Tokyo Babel, appear to be over 1500. '
It's 1500 give or take a thousand, meaning they could've only sold a few hundred copies. And since both are all-ages only, most of their sales likely came from Steam. Tokyo Babel was also an expensive license to acquire because of its famous voice talent.

>>15795245
If it weren't doing well they wouldn't be localizing the sequel.

>>15795225
Yuki is a valid way of translating that name. Otherwise, we'd be calling Tokyo Toukyou.

>>15795225
Yuki in SukiSuki might cost 1 sale, and the person who would choose to buy or not happens to be in this thread. Rance names might annoy some people in the Rance community and cost a handful of sales, but you probably weren't going to make everyone happy regardless. Funbag Fantasy on the other hand doesn't seem to be a name that will resonate with people who would buy an H-game based on what it is called, like Boob Wars did, and thus it appears to have failed to do its job.

>>15795236
I don't see why you insist on complaining about the use of 4chan slang.

>>15795270
As a Rancefag, I'm more happy that the names are finally finalized than I am annoyed with some of the name choices. I'll get used to them at some point, and some autist could always patch it if he really wanted to.

>>15795275
You say this as if you're reading into my post to such an extent that you believe I am someone else you have talked to about this subject before.

>>15795247
I am not suggesting Tokyo Babel wasn't a failure, as you say with the voice talent it likely was. However I would be surprised if any MG title on Steam sold better in the MG store then the Steam version sold, as the hits on one seem to be hits on the other and Steam appears to put out better numbers.

I can see SP ditching the Japanese titles to focus on OEVN projects. Less headaches for everybody.

>>15795280
Not at all.

>>15795270
I don't really care what Kyonyuu Fantasy gets called in English as long as the actual translation is good. It's some new guy that no one's heard of til now.

>>15795290
They've been going in that direction for a long time. 90% of their acquisitions are always OELVNs because they don't have any competent translators to spare. On the bright side, OELVNs are basically the same thing as JVNs anyway, just shorter and cheaper. You aren't missing much that isn't already being simulated for you.

Wait, are people seriously complaining about Yuki? Why? People have been spelling that name Yuki for SO MANY YEARS.

How many threads have to be ruined by this Yuki/Yuuki nameshit until you are happy?

>>15795296
>I don't really care what Kyonyuu Fantasy gets called in English as long as the actual translation is good. It's some new guy that no one's heard of til now.

Neither do I, I'd be fine with whatever they decided to call it as long as the game itself was the same, But the person who grabbed Boob Wars because it was called Boob Wars, and knows nothing about VNs other than they are looking for some porn, is unlikely to buy something just because it was called Funbag Fantasy, which is where the name fails to do its job. The original title, Kyonyuu Fantasy, would have failed as well in this regards.

>>15795304
No, it's just one guy on a fucking mission. A mission no one cares about. Most people, including mangagamer, know to ignore him by now.

>>15795304
Yuki autist is my waifu.

>>15795317
>>15795322
I don't suppose it's the Satoko towel idiot?

milf autist will return one day to reclaim his throne as the head autist

>>15795326

No, that's a different guy who was an outsider. The yuki guy is native autism, like milf autist was.

>>15795212
See, THIS would have been great and would have been good setup for the sequels.

I'd play the shit out of Final Fantitty.

>>15795337
It would have been a great way to be anally raped by Square Enix.

>>15795351
So then you make a big stink about it, fight it out in court, and get all that free publicity even when you change the name, people will still remember it as "The Game Formerly Known as Final Fantitty". You literally can't lose.

Wait, suddenly Tokyo Babel is no longer a failure? Evolimit when?

>>15794950
You can partially blame the language barrier, I think.

I don't really like Frontwing, but I was impressed that they are taking their PR so seriously and actually confronted people about CB. Most companies probably only look at the numbers and leave it at that.

Though you do have occasional rare cases like the Chuablesoft President who was willing to listen to the Western audience.

>>15795096
It's hard to say. G-Senjou was pretty controversial not just for its lack of H, so it's hard to pin down where its biggest failure was. The recent Grisaia fandisc sold like crap, but you can blame that on other factors as well (extremely delayed release, sequels always selling worse than their predecessors, over-priced for its length).

I wouldn't call IMHHW a success, though. As I recall it sold like shit on release, and the only reason it probably has as much sales as it does on Steam is because it goes for literal pennies during sales. Hell, my friend fucking owns the game and he doesn't even read visual novels. There are a lot of people on Steam who just buy things on the cheap because they can.

>>15795247
I bought Fata on MG's website because I enjoyed it so much and wanted to ensure they got more money. I'm sure at least a few others have done the same.

I know this has been said before, but even if Fata didn't sell amazingly, it will likely have long-term profits considering it's only getting bigger in terms of its reputation. That is, unless they haven't already seen at least a full-return on it from sales. I imagine the license was fairly cheap.

TB on the other hand... well, I've heard pretty mixed things about it and as you say it was probably a comparatively much more expense license.

>>15795094
I think it's pretty ironic that the only reason muv luv was able to squeeze so much money out of kickstarter was because it already had established fans who only existed because of a "leaked" fan translation.

>>15795389
>I don't really like Frontwing, but I was impressed that they are taking their PR so seriously and actually confronted people about CB. Most companies probably only look at the numbers and leave it at that.

While I was impressed as well, I just hope they were able to figure out what the actual problem was instead of just trying to fix every individual complaint that likely wouldn't have any actual effect as they simply didn't connect to a market or more simply, it didn't take off to a crazy huge audience. Considering they have been relaxing streaming requirements, it seems they at least to some degree understand the issue is they missed the market, and a number of responses pointed out the Steam market was hurting in general.

>Though you do have occasional rare cases like the Chuablesoft President who was willing to listen to the Western audience.

I respect that as well, I just hope his expectations are in line as it isn't like fully 18+ titles are now huge sellers without Stream for MG (not that it won't sell well, but expectations need to be lower for non-Steam titles that aren't Alicesoft.)

>It's hard to say. G-Senjou was pretty controversial not just for its lack of H, so it's hard to pin down where its biggest failure was.

I think its biggest problem were simply unrealistic expectations and high costs. It seems to have done reasonably enough if you look at it as an average MG title, but considering it failed to make a profit that means costs were high. Also not like Sharin was a huge success either when they tried it, despite being uncut, but that also had its own issues.

>The recent Grisaia fandisc sold like crap, but you can blame that on other factors as well (extremely delayed release, sequels always selling worse than their predecessors, over-priced for its length).

Guessing you also had a lot of people who played the first who simply realized they weren't into VNs, and the anime craze had slow down as Grisaia isn't going to be long remembered from the anime.

>I bought Fata on MG's website because I enjoyed it so much and wanted to ensure they got more money. I'm sure at least a few others have done the same.

I grab titles through MG myself as I'd rather not give Steam a cut, but I'm under no impression they are doing better on MG then Steam, especially for all ages titles.

>I know this has been said before, but even if Fata didn't sell amazingly, it will likely have long-term profits considering it's only getting bigger in terms of its reputation. That is, unless they haven't already seen at least a full-return on it from sales. I imagine the license was fairly cheap.

I fully agree, the reputation and long legs should help it long term.

>TB on the other hand... well, I've heard pretty mixed things about it and as you say it was probably a comparatively much more expense license.

Yes, Tokyo Babel is a failure, and unless yuri can save it Propeller titles as a whole are probably done.

>>15795363
I don't think you know much about how getting sued works. Do you understand the concept of legal fees? Probably not.

I think it was an interesting choice that instead of translating Pure Girl or Innocent Girl, Frontwing made an entirely new game to try and take advantage of the Huniepop audience that likes inexpensive games. A potentially smart idea, but they forgot to make the game good and as a result it was one of the worst games I have played in a long time. Despite its appearances Huniepop actually put a lot of thought into the puzzle gameplay. Purino Party half-assed something without even remotely the same charm.

Is SukiSuki going to get a cut edition for Steam? PE did pretty well.

>>15795435
My biggest problem with Frontwing is I simply do not have an interest in of their titles. At least at face value. I'm not adverse to moege, but CB didn't have too much going for me. Didn't like the art at all.

I'll certainly pick up Island and Himawari, but the former is quite a ways away.

>>15795447
That's because PE was translated by Kou.

>>15795314
I don't understand why they didn't just use the literal translation. "huge boobs fantasy" sounds fine.

>>15795453
shoo

>>15795451
What about Grisaia? It's basically a deconstruction of moege.

>>15795455

That sounds terrible, stop being retarded

>>15795453

No I'm pretty sure it was because it had steam and youtube exposure. Translators don't tend to have a large effect on steams unless they're truly terrible.

>>15795458
I still haven't read it. Though I almost feel like I have considering I was in /vn/ during the entire duration of its craze and I see posts about it all the time.

I'm kind of discouraged because I generally hear it's great in the common route, but most people seem to say that the routes themselves have issues. I'll eventually get around to it.

>>15795460
He's just memeing on Arunaru.

>>15795460
Then how do we get the retards to play the games? You only ever get the idiots who play "creepy Japanese porn games" as a joke. Most of them ignore it because they have a million actual games to play already and don't have time for visual novels. Even if free copies are offered a Youtuber has way too much to do. TB did a video once where he showed his list, you may have seen it.

>>15795405
And the superpopular muv-luv anime.

>>15795389
Tokyo Babel is certainly worth it. It requires you to get into the whole "angels and demons fighting about the future of the universe... while on high school uniforms". The story is well worth it with notable twists. Its jokes and light moments are fun for the kind of story that it is. The three main routes are decent. The characters are well developed. Uriel fights are too long but the fights in general are great. The voice actors are a 11/10 and probably the main reason to play it along with the whole general plot. And Samael, the best girl, doesn't have a route. If I had to change something, that would be a more romantic development where their feelings play a bigger part (this includes sex with Samael).

>>15795447
They don't list one, and they did list one for stuff like Sorcery Jokers, so I suspect no. Princess Evangile benefited greatly from Steam (and from lucking out on getting a widely viewed stream)

For those who didn't see it:
https://twitter.com/twit_chu/status/765934997744123904

>Since MangaGamer announced the English version of SukiSuki, I've been getting replies and mail asking for English versions of other ChuableSoft titles, which makes me happy

>>15795466
The Muv-Luv anime was not popular.

>>15795466
It seems a tradition in VNs that there's always a girl that makes you think "Why didn't she get a route?" Like Yuki in G-Senjou.

>>15795470

Huh, maybe >>15795125 really is happening

>>15795481
That would be pretty splendid for a translation to be announced right after I find out a game I want exists. It happened with Yuri Ghosts too.

>>15795471
Schwarzesmarken was very popular last winter specially at /a/. Maybe Total Eclipse not so much (it's more popular for all the Quality).

>>15795465
That is the whole problem. Occasionally you can come up with some kind of hook to pull people in, but in general there is no reliable strategy and most games won't succeed in that regards.

>>15795470
I surely hope it does well, he seems awesome and he genuinely wants to see his title do with an overseas audience. I just wish I had higher expectations, but without a Steam release it is hard to be that hopeful. I suppose they can probably make use of Nutaku at some point down the line to boost numbers at least.

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>>15795125
>If I recall, haro doesn't like lolicons
I-I'm not a degenerate, Haro, I swear. I'm just a normal human bean.

>>15795488
Maybe Schwarzesmarken was popular on /a/ (it certainly wasn't elsewhere) but that came WAY after Muv-Luv's popularity in the west. I'd say the anime was popular here because of the VN, not the other way around.

Sukimazakura translation is almost done.

>>15795125
>haro doesn't like lolicons
My degeneracy is okay but fuck your degeneracy, thats not allowed.

>>15795470
Why does he keep ending his tweets with #KEK? Is he one of us?

>>15795489
A lot of people seem hype for it on the sites I visit. And it has a high amount of sexual content--enough to draw the crowd that just wants a wank. It also has that minor gameplay gimmick with it that I've seen a lot of people take an interest in.

I hope it does well. I really do. Good guys deserve to win.

>>15795498
It is a real headscratcher that rape murder butler fetishism is okay but vanilla loli stuff is a big no-no.

>>15793887
>Fan: Daitoshokan

That incompetent machine TL?

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What could this mean?

>>15795504

To be fair, It's not like the reverse is uncommon here.

>>15795499
Fata Morgana's writer keeps liking the same doujins that I'm into on his Twitter.

>>15795519
Loli vanilla...? Butler murder rape?

>>15795519
I don't particularly care at all what other people wank off to. If Maggot Baits is your thing, then by all means.

>>15795533
>Japan has a kek website

Are they our guy?

>>15795495
Doesn't look like it. And besides, isn't it just a fuwalation?

>>15795543
When you really think about it, isn't everything in life just a fuwalation?

>>15795125
>>15795481
I can only hope.
That white haired loli looks like a 10/10

>>15795545
No, not really.

>>15795493
It's difficult to quantify. The only thing I can contribute is
https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=muv-luv,Schwarzesmarken
I'm not saying you're wrong. Just that anime could notably increase the overall popularity.

>>15795503
I mean it is popular with the people who follow VNs, but the question is how well does it sell to people who haven't yet to hear of it. At least the art/title should help sell it being a moege, but PE wouldn't have been nearly the hit it was without Steam to sell it.

>>15794921
You must be one of these claiming that the Green Green remake is the supperior version.

>>15795571
Frankly I'm annoyed that Overdrive died just before MangaGamer could announce a translation of that version.

>>15795553
It is, when you really think about it. Really makes you think. About it.

>>15795523

Hating on other fetishes when your own is degenerate. Every other thread there's someone in here bitching about "fujos"

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>>15795573
And I'm happy about it because that remake is an aberration if you compared it with the original version.

What the hell ever happened to rúf?

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Speaking of kyonyuu fantasy, it looks like they managed to come to an understanding in the end.

>>15795755
Probably just told him that the actual title is still there and accepted his version of the names.

Rance VI will sell 5 figures

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>>15795815
I would like to have one of these.

Will the Utawa games will ever be translated?

>>15795821
The first one was translated, the others no.
Main reason: console exclusive.

>>15795829
Why do Japanese VN devs seem to hate their fanbases?

>>15795831
>hate their fanbases?
this is probably the way all visual novels will eventually go since the PC userbase in Japan is extremely low.

most use consoles/portable devices.

>>15795836
Why is Japan filled with plebs?

>>15795859
>I like to make stupid questions and receive equal answers.
Because they're needed for develop develop an modern civilization.

>>15795573
>Overdrive died
Wait, then who owns Mangagamer now? Circus?

>>15795877

He's being facetious. Overdrive still exists, but it's just a zombie now.

Overdrive also doesn't own mangagamer. Bamboo started a different company for that called japan anime contents/日本アニメコンテンツ that he's also the head of.

>>15795573
Wow Green Green is a trilogy? Looks like a classic. I loved all the funny romcom of old Overdrive.

>>15791842
Basically it could have been done within a year but now it will take 2 to 3 with roughly even worse in house translation instead of by professionals.

>>15795270
Rance names won't lose any sales. The ones who care are actually part of the hardcore fan community so will definitely end up buying anyway and others in that community will be multiple copies anyway.

>>15795820
You'll have to get one from Japan. They certainly won't sell Sen merchandise for VI.

Would be nice if they could get some versions of the Shizuka wallscrolls though.

>>15792100
1.SRS app like Memrise
2. Katakana+ and Hiragana+ course
3. Vocab then Grammar
4. Kanji

There you go learn it within a few years for 30 minutes a day. Nobody said it was going to be easy. But if your dedicated you can get there. its helped me.

>>15795445
You know if Frontwing made a game like PuyoPuyo with visual novels i would buy it lol.

>>15795465
>Then how do we get the retards to play the games? You only ever get the idiots who play "creepy Japanese porn games" as a joke.

I would say it has to happen from the mainstream Danganronpa and Steins;Gate are doing really well and some are actually playing these visual novels simply because they heard from a friend or a huge fan of the anime to give it a try. If it exceeds expectations then more fans will buy Visual Novels for the experiences they had from those games.

>>15795465

Why would you even want the normalfag audience?

>>15795831
I do not think they hate its just the crowd is not as big as the anime crowd is. The same thing happened a long time ago with anime wondering why there was much of it and then as time went on more anime was being subbed and actually moving West. I think Visual Novels will move in the same direction in a few years time.

>>15795489
Suki Suki will do pretty well. It's a moege after all. Maybe not as well as it could have, but that's the way it is.

I assume he was made aware about the probably loss in profits from not including a Steam version. It's possible that Suki Suki isn't the type of game where a Steam version is feasible (like Rance), but I personally assume Chuable Soft vetoed against it for one reason or another.

I'm going to buy it if only to say "Good Job Chuable" and the gameplay gimmick seems really neat.

>>15796011
People complain about nameshit, but they'll still buy it, it's just they want to try and get it changed before it's released. That and it's fun.

>>15796152
I won't buy shit.

>>15795385
It's still a failure, or at least wasn't profitable.

>>15796158
Yeah, but that's because you never buy anything

>>15796168
I do.

>>15796181
Sure

>>15796182
I bought Haruka to get Rance, and see how that turned out.

>>15795447
Princess Evangile also had the benefit of being one of the first full length moege on Steam, and MG was able to offer free Steam keys with purchase from their site for months after release. I expect other moege to do well, but I doubt another moege will reach PE levels for MG.

>>15795464
I usually heard the opposite, that the common route dragged on too long with tedious slice of life scenes, while the engaging heroine routes were too short.

>>15796140
>Suki Suki will do pretty well. It's a moege after all. Maybe not as well as it could have, but that's the way it is.

It's easy to forget because of how successful Princess Evangile was, but Harukoi Otome was released just three years ago and was a significant failure. Granted things have improved for MG's store since then and Suki Suki is a better looking and more appealing game, but I wouldn't overestimate how well a purely off steam release would do just for it being a moege.

>I assume he was made aware about the probably loss in profits from not including a Steam version. It's possible that Suki Suki isn't the type of game where a Steam version is feasible (like Rance), but I personally assume Chuable Soft vetoed against it for one reason or another.

If Koikuma can somehow pull off a Steam release, then I'd think Suki Suki could as well, Not that the former is a particularly good idea for releasing a title worth playing as released on Steam, but it will probably be helped by Steam presence nevertheless. That said though, MG's inability (based on what their steam rep said before) to use patches makes such a release less practical.

>>15795466
I thought Raziel's route was pretty weak to be honest, at least until close to the end of it. It's advised to play the routes in a certain order, so Raziel's being the one you're advised to start with doesn't really help get people into the story.

>>15795467
Unless it's like Bokuten or Gahkthun and they announce a Steam release later on, and are still working out the details of it.

>>15796201
>It's easy to forget because of how successful Princess Evangile was, but Harukoi Otome was released just three years ago and was a significant failure.

I'm not even sure how it failed. The fact that it's BaseSon, it had some minor Koihime connections, and even had some old h-OVAs (that basically spoils Umi's route).

Granted, it wasn't a great game, but it should've gotten more attention than it did.

>>15796011
I agree that in Rance VI case this odd naming decision isn't going to affect the sales. But this is mostly due to the fact that it's the first official Rance release in the west and they are bringing improved graphics with it. Yet out of nothing they are creating another stain on Mangagamer's reputation that is already sullied within the eyes of hardcore Rance fanbase so they will be more willing to take the fuck you too stance in a case if something else will displease them later.

I think Mangagamer simply doesn't know how to deal with titles that already have existing fanbases. They failed to promote their Steam release of Umineko and now they are doing bad PR within Rance fanbase.

>>15796280
i hope you're not using the rance general as a reference for the entire fanbase. the rance fanbase on /vg/ is awful and are autistic about even the smallest things because complaining is their hobby and one of the few things that keeps their corpse of a general somewhat alive.

meanwhile the rance threads on /v/ and other discussions on reddit/fuwa/etc. just seem excited about the game and don't give a crap about nameshit because it frankly doesn't fucking matter

>>15796280
Umineko did perfectly fine considering everyone and their mother read it years ago.

Not to mention it has stiff competition against the PS3 version which has both voice acting and better art. The only thing going for the official Steam version was the improved artwork. Considering it still moved 3.5k+ units and will probably continue to sell, that's fine.

>>15796305
>improved artwork
Meant to say improved translation, but I suppose some people do enjoy that new art. Maybe.

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>>15796314
I like more the Pachinko art that the PS3 one, because Beatrice looks more like the original sprites rather that a moe character.

>>15796252
The crowd was small? The game was really old? The art wasn't that appealing?

If I remember correctly, the fact that it was an old game that was before even Koihime Musou killed it the most.

>>15796328
She looks a bit mannish in the Pachinko art, but I suppose that's appropriate

>>15796280
>>15796295's right, I mean, the editor of 5D went down to the thread just to spread more nameshit. It's basically a past time.

Also, the reactions in-thread was an overwhelming support for the games as well, a lot asking how and when they can buy it.

>>15796252

harukoi was dogshit though

I read Harukoi a few years ago but I literally cannot remember anything about it. I guess it was just unremarkable in every aspect.

When will Abhar/Trumple/Polarstar's beautiful VNs be translated?

Where are they now?

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>>15794950
Should've posted the full version. First he says, you're about as relevant as South Americans, then you should buy games you don't like to support the industry, and finally he made the exact opposite point that those same about-as-relevant-as-South-Americans people have all the power to change the VN companies. Make up your damn mind, you stupid fuck.

>>15796407
Ludo has schizophrenia. Go easy on him, he's a complete mental case :^)

>>15796394
Tbh their newest, Oujou Ibun is unfinished crap. Being part 1 of 5 is of course the main reason, but the writing is pretty bad too. The protagonist has pretty much no character, only describes his surroundings and reacts in predictable ways.

>>15796407
I suppose he could be trying to say we have no influence over the creation process of VNs but we can influence the translation process? Ludo is kind of hard to make sense of sometimes

>>15796280
While I personally think that some of the choices were questionable, I don't think they are significantly different enough to boycott the release, not to mention that nameshit always leads to someone being disappointed. I can't really blame MG when it was likely that they'd be disappointed one way or another. At least MG uncensored the hyper weapon, which is what the majority of the fanbase cares more about.

If you think Rance was bad, think about the clusterfuck Type-MOON will be when Fate/Stay Night is officially released. Most of that fan base ultimately won't care, but they have a much bigger vocal minority that'll shit on anyone who localizes it.

>>15795236
do you even know what autism is you goddamn retard

>>15796437
Oh god, F/SN would be the worst.

I can already see the complaining about all the differences--especially when so many of the memes current in that community are built around the god-awful translation.

>>15795304
Name some Yuukis who were romanized as Yukis besides the two upcoming kusoge.

>At least MG uncensored the hyper weapon, which is what the majority of the fanbase cares more about.
I seriously doubt that many people are playing it for the sake of looking at a giant dick.

>>15796488
Some of it is ironic, but Rance worship is strong in the Rance fanbase.

http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Hyper_Weapon

>>15792487
Yes, please.

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>>15796488
D-d..on't mess with my hyperweapon, baka.

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Is Rance X really going to be the end? Isn't it one of their best sellers?

>>15796547
I was thinking about playing Sengoku Rance, but now I'm glad I didn't, since it will likely be announced next year and get a way better translation.

>>15796568
2 years is more likely assuming Rance -> non-Rance -> Rance order

>>15796547
They'll probably release spin off games in the same or a similar world (Evenicle was the latter), but Rance X will be the last in the main Rance series. Except maybe 04.

Let it end with a bang, not with a whimper.

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>>15796547

We will never get the Rance 1/2/3/4 translated...

>>15796590
They were translated. Well, I and the II script of 02 were translated badly, but still.

01 and 03 seem likely enough down the line.

>>15796568
They probably will do Evenicle or another nukige next year. Rance isn't the only Alicesoft's title.

>>15796598
>They were translated.
Sorry, I mean that we will never get Rance 01 - 02 - 03 - 04 because MG will release this serie from the 5th chapter.

>>15796619
01 and 03 were well acclaimed (and make references to future chapters) so I don't see why not. 02 is weird and probably has to be part of a bundle like 5D. 01 and 03 should be released after Quest at least though because they're HD. 03 after IX would be best, but it's not a huge deal.

Even if AS does 04 after X, I hope Mangagamer releases X last.

>>15796511
It would be hard to reproduce it well in English, cause it's hardly written in standard Japanese, so I'll just tell you the gist of it.

It speaks about recklessly falling in love using imagery of flowers blooming profusely and some words that remind the listener of dying in battle. Specifically 散る - "scatter" - of a blooming flower, is used as a more literary way to say "die".

The conclusion of the first part used as the game's OP is that after falling recklessly in love you'll have no place to return to, you'll wail till exhaustion, dance like mad in battle and bravely face your end. Again you see the imagery of dying in battle. And the song's name mentions it's all like a fleeting dream (kanji used says -bubble on water's surface).

>>15796665
Interesting. It's actually better than I expected.

>>15796602
Evenicle would sell huge on Steam if MG could get it there just because of the artist.

It's probably unfeasible storywise, and even if it wasn't, Alicesoft might not let Mangagamer do that.

>>15796728
>Alicesoft might not let Mangagamer do that.

Why not? They're already letting MangaGamer do Rance.

>>15795156
Perhaps, but Ever17, Never7, Remember11 didn't cause Root Double to sell. But that might partially be because the license itself removed Never7 and Remember11 access.

>>15796748
That's what you get for removing honorifics.

>>15796678
Personally I like the song's tempo created by emphatic words like
>愛 相思 匆々…安寧 が 滔々混沌 に 悶々…いとをかし…
>匆々- "sousou"
>滔々- "toutou"
>悶々 - "monmon"

>百花妙妙 願わば
>百花妙妙 - "hyakka myoumyou"
Etc.

Also
>いとをかし - "ito wokashi"
underlines the refrain very well.
をかし is the old form of おかしい - "okashii". You might know it from anime, it's a somewhat common word with meanings of "weird" or "ridiculous". The old version is more complicated. Old Japanese dictionary lists 14 possible meanings in five categories.
>http://kobun.weblio.jp/content/をかし
This kind of ambiguity is common in Old Japanese, but をかし is one of the words that take the cake. Famously, in one translation of Sei Shounagon's Pillow Book, twenty three different English words are used for various instances of this をかし.

>>15795241
Mega Milk Fantasy would have used the meme Mega Milk comic as a sales boost.

>>15796732
I meant Alicesoft won't let them release a censored Evenicle for Steam.

>>15796748
Only Ever 17 was really popular, and that was WAY back in the day.

>>15796772
>Only Ever 17 was really popular, and that was WAY back in the day.

As baby's first twist novel. I guess it somwhat paved way for Uchi "One Trick Pony" koshi's success of Zero Escape.

>>15796586
>>15796602
MG isn't limited to one game from Alicesoft a year considering they announced 2 Rance games just this year.

>>15796792
Not the best example since 5D and 6 are sold as one game.

If they announce Oyako Rankan at Atlanta, then Sengoku's pretty likely next year.

>>15796748
Neither Remember11 or Never7 took off, and it's not immediately obvious that there is a connection to those titles in how it was produced, unless you have been actively seeking out VNs and would have known about it already. The majority of fan translation players, as well as Visual Novel buyers, aren't actively looking for info on VNs.

Culture Select Is promoting their Kickstarter on Mod DB, this is actually a good idea since the anime group is one of the most popular groups there. http://www.moddb.com/games/mokuri/news/its-adorable-its-tactical-doujinindie-srpg-mokuri-now-on-kickstarter

>>15796252
I am guessing Harukoi Otome just didn't appeal to the Mangagamer audience at the time. It wouldn't have appealed to the nukige audience, and unlike some of their other good sellers it wasn't recognized from elsewhere (sure it was related to Koihime, but it wasn't Koihime). The game itself was rather bad, so it lost people who follow the community, and it had no chance of gaining any traction for being a good game. Also because of its length, it had a higher break even point then other titles at the time.

SukiSuki's success as an off-Steam title though will come down to can they get the Princess Evangile to show up even without a Steam version (that also helps advertise the off steam version), and has the audience using their primary website grown to include more moege buyers.

>>15797480
It is funny that everywhere people always post about their fears for censorship. I wonder when companies will pick up on that. (Or cure their own fear of SJWs)

>>15796295
>>15796280
The /vg/ general has overwhelmingly reacted positively to things with many people planning to buy multiple copies.

Its entirely different to the Haruka thing which was mostly due to Maria

>>15796728
Its completely unfeasible story wise

>>15797480
At least their pledge is reasonable (6.5K) and 60% of it is for to cover the localization cost.

>>15797627
IFI understood after the backlash from their first game, and PQube is definitely a company that knew that.

XSEED would probably be more censor happy if Tom wasn't around. Maybe not NISA tier, but Atlus USA tier. Even if Tom does leave though, their Marvelous games should be safe.

To my knowledge, Mangagamer never censored while JAST used to. You could argue JAST still does, but the unofficial patches are good enough for me.

Fuck Sekai though. Better than NISA, but not by much. I hope Culture Select eventually takes Sekai's niche if there has to be an all ages VN publisher.

>>15797703
I wasn't sure but thanks for telling me.

>>15797675
It reacted overwhelmingly positively to the announcement of the licensing. When Pi-R came in later and started feeding little bits about namechanges it caused plenty of bitching to the point of someone declaring intention of making a patch that will revert all namechanges back. But it is true that nobody said that they won't buy the game for this reason.