07th Expansion thread becuase last one is dead. Also best girls

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>>15688377
Mammon best butt girl.

Okay, here we go.


Link to EP1-EP6 Explanation
>http://pastebin.com/EAnWKaKV
link to the Sprite Batch
>https://www.mediafire.com/?nx7jbx84zr29k
link to the Original/PS3/Steam sprite comparison images
>mega:///#!JdoyFAQB!KV5KiHjRovwZPtEMkhLGg0gMF5gAii6XC8UWCFeEvm0
link to the main wiki (beware that although the wiki is correct on a big sum of topics, it's not an omnipotent information source, so do not trust every word without comparing it to your own experiences and those of other anons)
>http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Umineko_no_Naku_Koro_ni_Wiki

link for Ougon Musou Kyoku/CROSS (In order to unlock Lambdadelta and Bern, you need to install in order OMK->OMK Patch->OMK-CROSS->CROSS Patch in the same folder. The Installer might take a bit to load, but be patient enough and it'll be just fine. This torrent includes all four parts mentioned above.)
>magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3a9a05a5223fbbe59de31644579e644050e6c044&dn=Ougon+Musou+Kyoku+%2B+Cross+Expansion+and+patch+updates&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

Alternatively, you can download the pre-installed version of CROSS from here.
>https://mega.nz/#F!U5ZWCTiT!CGakA0jIaRJHwIOgoqoEDw

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To the anon who asked last thread about scaling Ange's head, here's a comparison between 100%, 95%, and 90% the original size. For this one I think 95% is actually best choice. At 90% her proportions start looking weird, with her head being roughly the same size as one of her breasts.

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>>15688474
Chiru sprites aren't available yet, but here's the picture from the artbook.

>>15688523
>ruined
C'mon, man, he's just making shitty nude edits.

i have some questions about ep2, can someone here answer ?

>>15688565
Magic is real
Beatrice killed everyone using magic

>>15688523
That depends on what you mean by ruined.

>>15688575
That reminds me, wasn't Nanjo part of the conspiracy with Genji and Kumasawa who knew about Yasu?

>>15688565
please respond

>>15688631
Do you think it's relevant to what really happened?

How canon is the manga anyway? Everything swears on their mum that what was described in it was totally 100% true, but it's Ryukishi we're talking about.

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>>15688465
I tried

>>15688681
Any suggestions on how to improve them?

>>15688565
1. why is beatrice tormenting shannon/kanon when they techncially are the same people

2. how does breaking the mirror and awakening beatrice change her "inescapable fate".

3. what exactly is the butterfly brooch beatrice gave to shannon? how can't she love without it?

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>>15688717
I honestly never noticed.
I'm too focused on Bernkasstel's butt.

>>15688720
calm down it's just bad art

>>15688712
1. inner turmoil
2. inner turmoil
3. inner turmoil

remember just because something was shown doesn't mean it literally happened, doubly so for all magic/shkannon scenes

>>15688712
>1. why is beatrice tormenting shannon/kanon when they techncially are the same people
you've never had conflicting feelings in your entire life?
>2. how does breaking the mirror and awakening beatrice change her "inescapable fate".
it was her testing the explosives and setting forth the whole plan for the roulette
>3. what exactly is the butterfly brooch beatrice gave to shannon? how can't she love without it?
probably a metaphor for yasu letting herself fall in love

>>15688745
i have had conflicting feelings, but shannon /kanon literally have polar opposite attitudes compared with beatrice, which made it confusing for me.

>>15688754
Don't quote me on this, but when someone has different personalities, they often don't get along well.

>>15688754
Well from what I can tell, Kanon takes on all of Shannon's daily frustrations, meaning that he's the one who gets angry while Shannon remains calm.

>>15688668
Looks pretty good. I think I should finish the shading before I continue with outfits, otherwise the pieces will just look flat.

What is the point of episode 3? It just seems like it is pushing Eva being the culprit the whole time.

>>15689223
I think that ending gave me trust issues.

>>15689236
That ending gave me a boner

>>15689238
That ending gave me a boner with trust issues.

So what's going on with this thread anyway? A Seacats nude titty mod general or something? I've glossed past this thread like the last three incarnations and you guys seem to be working on something involving badly edited sprites, but for what purpose?

>>15689296
Not everyone. I talk about the games and about how much I want to spank Bernkastel and the stakes.
I just ignore the nude guy because it won't do any good to call him out.

>>15689296
I don't think they have a specific purpose, they're just making them for fun

>>15689296
The thread is for everything related to 07th Expansion. It's just that we ran out of things to insult each others about.

>>15689296
Do you have a problem with people having fun?

tri when

>>15689326
I personally want to make an edit outfit for most of the cast. Reading it will be hilarious.

>>15689438
In 16 days. And then we have to wait forever for the translation

So there's Higurashi, Umineko, and what else?

>>15689341
>It's just that we ran out of things to insult each others about.
Isn't that when it's time to stop making threads?

Wasn't there something called Rose Gun Days, and some other thing about a bullied loli(or was that another VN group?) Why did that fade into obscurity so quickly?

>>15689496
higanbana

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>>15689296
Sorry about that. I didn't realize it was bothering anyone. There's no real reason I'm doing it. It's just something fun to do. Plus if I keep doing it hopefully I'll start to improve. And it's not just nude edits.

>>15689304
You don't need to be so considerate. If I'm bothering you then just let me know and I'll try to tone it down a bit.

>>15689492
Higanbana and Rose Guns Days.
Ryuukishi has also worked on other projects but I'm not sure if those are discussed here

>>15689445
>most of the cast
Even the male characters?

>>15689508
So Higanbana is the emo story about Japanese Carrie being bullied and Rose Gun Days is the other with the Gary Tsu?

>>15689496
I don't think they're that obscure. Higanbana was released for the 3DS a few weeks ago, and Rose Guns Days is getting a new release and a stage play soon

>>15689223
Anyone here Game Master? Please explain

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>>15689223
I guess if you look at it from a meta perspective, the manga even elaborates on this, the reason it pushes Eva as the culprit is because Tohya originally thought that Eva was the culprit.

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>>15689559
It was the first forgery written by battler/Ikuko back when they thought that Eva really was the culprit.

beato

>>15689591
Yes I understand that but i don't see how it really is relevant to episodes 1-2.. unless im missing something

batora

>>15689471
How much time it took for umineko to be completely translated when came out?

>>15689612
It was translated piece after piece, so it's difficult to answer.

>>15689596
What do you mean by relevant? If you go by a magic perspective, then it's just another of the games Beatrice is challenging Battler with, and shkanon is the culprit before Eva finds the gold, then Eva becomes the new Beatrice after she finds the gold.

If you go for a "real world" perspective, then it's the first forgery from Battler, and the reason Eva is the culprit is because it was the most logical view based on what he remembered.

>>15689511
Lol no.
That would be gay.

>>15689643
I don't see how episode 3 goes with episode 1 or 2.. they seem way different to me. the story was coherent in the first two episodes.. everything changed in ep3, so i guess i can't see the "heart" connecting them for one solution

>>15689591
>pushes Eva culprit while also including hints for Yasu and the whole shkannontrice

I call bull. R07 came up with this near the very end to make sense of the forgery story.

>>15689734
It pushes Shkanontrice because while Tohya thought Eva was the culprit, Ikuko was the one that knew the secret and probably edited the episode to make things fit.

So what was up with the lack of rule X in episode 8 of Higurashi? It doesn't make much sense as to why they would set up the three rules in the previous episode only to have the most important one be violated in the following episode.

>>15688648
>>15688668
Why does Ange's breasts look HUGE in the new sprite?

>>15689718
I guess you're not up to the challenge then, not good enough. It's fine. You can't come here expecting high quality.
>>15689758
Because some men think that the chest of a girl has to be like the same size as the testicles of a blue whale.

So... what about discussing the best tracks of Higanbana's OST (which is also very good)?

Post your favorite tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNFRhFHSyjo

>>15690508
Oh, it would be this one for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnYv49EALzY

I think I've found a playlist, if anyone's interested

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2614736EDC061735

Not sure if it's complete or not.

>>15690508
>not posting "そこには誰もいないはず" suspensefulness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RJRq2hKXHs

This thread needs God Sakutaro's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fwNnXbpOo0

>>15690508
For me, by far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGfHtRtjPp0

Based dai

Izanami's theme is also suberb (The Great Detective Knows vibes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkLmTtVaxY8

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Alright. This should do it for Ange's nude edit. I tried a new shading method this time and I think it turned out pretty well. Let me know what you think.

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And here's the outfit from last time with the final version.

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And finally, here's the one-winged eagle dress.

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>>15691670
Yeah, I' noticed right after posting it

>>15691691
Yeah, you're right. They're more like gap pieces rather than full on lewds. Any ideas? Should we try tweaking one of the current outfits or just make a third one?

So I thought about something.
Even if Yasu decided to come clean to the Ushiromiyas instead of starting his roulette game, everything would've turned out the exact same, the Ushiromiyas parents wouldn't have accepted him, even if Nanjo and Genji were to back him up, and the cousins would be too horrified to learn about him.
From the moment Natushi threw him down a cliff, everyone was fucked.

>>15689757
Rule x usually happens after watanagashi

>>15692080
I'm working on a lewder alternate version right now. Almost done.

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Okay, so I got a bit carried away and made several changes. I couldn't decide so I made a few different combinations.

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>>15692337
Well, those were meant to be lewds. But I'll see what I can do
>>15692349
Thanks

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>>15692446
The best thing about Ange not wearing panties is all the potential ass shots. But without any rear-view sprites we can't appreciate that anyway, and instead we just miss out on all the potential pieces involving panties.

>>15692464
Alright, How's this? I tried to make it so that you could just barely make out her crotch if you look closely.

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Saw this in Kyoto today. New pachinko / slot machine.

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>>15692542
Yeah, it looks better that way. Alright then, that's another one down. I guess all that's left is to add her nipples and slit, both of which would be left partially exposed in this outfit I think. Or maybe I'll just skip that for now and move on to the next one? After all, I still haven't even done Eva's yet. Also, Who should be next? I probably want to do at least on more human first before taking another shot at the fantasy side.

>>15692593
Right. Oh, come to think of it, I never put shadows under her breasts either.

>>15692622
Sounds good. Rounds out the female cousins.

Anyone know if there's a Vietnamese translation for the VN? Want to introduce the series to a relative.

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>>15692685
Indeed

>>15692711
I don't think so. The only versions are know are English or Japanese.

>>15692771
It's in some other languages as well. There's a list of all the versions here
https://vndb.org/v24

>>15692711
There is no Vietnamese version though

>>15692830
Damn, you think a Viet translation of the manga would suffice then? Even though it doesn't include everything from the VN.

>>15693076
Non.
I hope they removed all the Japanese honorifics. French is rich enough to have equivalents.

>>15692839
It's only Episode 1 though

>>15693193
I dont know, mate.
I wanted to help translate Umineko back then, but compared to Saffran, I'm just a scrub.

>>15693245
Better than nothing at all.

>>15693288
Higurashi is the only French translation that was okay, and that's only because the translator managed to make the kid sounds like kids without it sounding forced.

>>15693329
I dunno, they used slang and expressions that were pretty childish. Some of them I never heard before. Like Keiichi saying to the girls "J'vais vous mettre une pile!"
Never heard it before.

>>15693428
>it was still the best Higurashi translation
More like the only.
It did a fine job at localizing rather than just translating.

has anyone here fully solved umineko? i need help solving it. i can't figure it out

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>>15693764
Just read Episode 8 of the manga

>>15693804
i have read everything, im just still having trouble understanding a few points

>>15693840
R07 probably does as well

>>15693624
sauce?

>>15693913
4chan.

>>15693908
i just want to solve it. im sure some people here understand it more than i do.

>>15693940
If you've read the manga, what is there left to be confused about?

i have alot of questions but basically these :

1. how was everything supposed to remind battler of his promise

2. how did battler revive beato by the rules

3. why was battler so sorry when he learned the truth? if she really just mass murdered everyone that reaction is strange.

4. how were bernkastel and lambdadelta manipulating beatrice.

>>15694043
also one more, in episode 6 beato revives truly to save battler from a locked room.. does that apply before that episode at all?

>>15693940
The only thing you really need to know is that the "episodes" and Ange's misadventures take place in two different planes of existence.
Ange's adventures are definitely real, the other stuff with Lambdadelta, Buttkasstel and Beatrice is magic.

>>15694043
1. Because Yasu and Battler talked about murder mysteries.
2. He didn't, it's a different Beatrice.
3. Because he was late.
4. Literally "magic".

>>15694043
>how was everything supposed to remind battler of his promise
The games left clues for Battler to find about the truth.

>how did battler revive beato by the rules
The rules of the game is what makes up Beatrice.

>why was battler so sorry when he learned the truth? if she really just mass murdered everyone that reaction is strange.
Because if Battler knew the truth sooner and remembered his promise to Shannon, he would have stopped her before she murdered everyone and blew up the island, as well as apologize to her for forgetting her.

>how were bernkastel and lambdadelta manipulating beatrice.
Lambdadelta was using Beatrice to lock Bernkastel into an endless loop where she would never win. Bernkastel is supporting Battler to win against Beatrice.

>also one more, in episode 6 beato revives truly to save battler from a locked room.. does that apply before that episode at all?
I don't understand the meaning of this question. If you're asking if the way Beatrice saved Battler would apply to any other scenario before the episode would apply, then yes. Since she is also Kanon and Shannon.

>>15694089
i meant maybe the locked room applies before it was shown in ep6, which is why beatrice is so fluent in closed rooms. maybe to actually help battler? im not sure about this its just something i thought of

>>15693764
Battler and Yasu killed everyone.

I had a dream last night where I met Ryukishi07 and tried to talk to him, however it was kind of awkward since I can't speak Japanese, and I just ended up not understanding him.

>>15694108
Shannon read many mystery novels with Battler so she was knowledgeable about many kinds of closed rooms. Beatrice used that knowledge to create all the closed room murders and frustrate Battler in the previous games, and used her true nature (Shkanontrice) to help him out in Ep 6. But if you're asking if this specific closed room scenario happened before Ep 6, then no.

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Like, I know Ryukishi, Kodaka and Uchikoshi know each other, and that they talk about their mystery works and stuff. But isn't this a bit too much of a direct reference to Umineko in the Danganronpa 3 anime?

>>15695405
Wait, is this scene for real?
Like, seriously?

>>15695423
I just watched it too (quite a nice episode I might add). These screenshots are from the latest episode that was released today some hours ago (the Mirai-hen part, in this case).

Damn DR3 being aired as two separated series in the same season... though it was quite a smart idea imo.

>>15695405
I think this is too vague to be a reference, unless I'm forgetting something.

>>15695479
I think he is refering to:
1- EP5-6, Erika's quote, which is pretty similar
2- Which is also additional foreshadowing to Battler, as being the "detective", is also the indirect cause of the murders occurring
3- "Without love it cannot be seen"

>>15695405
Isn't that a common saying? I definitely feel like I've heard it before I read Umineko

>>15695540
Common saying, you say?

I only remember having hearing it, in this particular context (all the 4 phrases being spelled consecutively), in Umineko, to be honest.

It could be just a coincidence, but the "Don't think just logically and try to use your heart while employing a detective technique" part just sounds pretty fishy putting it together with the phrase just before.

>>15695540
Isn't this line from one of Edogawa Ranpo's novels, the major influence in Ryukishi's descriptive narrative? iirc, at least

Though it does sounds a little too much in the same context imo

beato

>>15692251

Middle.

>>15692251
I second middle one

Seacats lewdinganon could you lewd beato if you get some spare lewding time?

This thread is so dead right now it's depressing.

I hope things gets better as soon as TRT hit the market.

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I just finished Higurashi and I'm looking into playing Umineko, should I buy the steam version or get one with the ps3 sprites?

>>15696777
Buying the Steam version supports the series, but the ps3 version is better.

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>>15696777
there is a project to port PS3 sprites and voices to the Steam release, but iirc they'll go with it after they finish tatarigoroshi and they can't do it because the sprites guy fell of the face of the earth

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>>15696856
>>15697027

How is the steam translation? Is there any difference between the ps3 version OST and the one on steam?

>>15697121
It's Mangagamer.

>>15697121
They apparently improved the translation for the Steam release, but it's not like the original translation was bad.

>>15697121
>How is the steam translation?
Honestly good.

>the ps3 version OST and the one on steam?
Not that I can tell. At the time, MG did not have the rights to use Higurashi's original score because it was music clips from free music on the internet. To compensate, they had to add their own music which was just annoying at times. However, this new translation uses the music from Hou, which is the same in the ps3 ost, so it's all good.
>>15697206
The original translation was pretty bad. The one you've read was not the original translation, that was after MG released their translation and people bitched that it was shit. The end product was still not really well translated overall, especially if you compare it to the french translation.

>>15697228
I read witch hunt's translation back when it first came out. It was fine.

>>15697242
We're talking about Higurashi, not Umineko.

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You know, one of the inconsistencies that really annoys me is how Rena wears her neck collar and wrist protector but only in her everyday outfit.
Rena should be wearing one every day in every outfit including her school outfit.

In MG's sprites, Rena doesn't even wear the wrist cover in her everyday outfit. In the original sprites and ps3, she only wears them in her every day outfit.

Does anyone else get annoyed by that?

>>15697228
>this new translation uses the music from Hou, which is the same in the ps3 ost
That isn't true at all. The Steam translation uses the music from the original game, which isn't the same as the music in Sui. Hou and Sui doesn't have the same music to begin with either

>>15697417
>Hou and Sui doesn't have the same music to begin with either
No? I was sure it had the same music. Ah well.

>>15695859
I'm working on Jessica now, but I'll see what I can do. It wouldn't be the first time I do 2 at once.

>>15698688
Once you're done with Beatrice's naked base, do you think you would be able to add a collar around her neck?

>>15698767
Sure, I can make a collared version.

>>15698816
Sweet. I have a cute idea of making Beatrice and Shannon wear collars. For hilarity reasons.

>>15694435
have another question
in episode 6 it says beatrice is supposed to love/ serve battler, but in the games shes tormenting him.. is that love visible in the first 4 games?

>>15698909
Without love it cannot be seen.

>>15698909
Part of the reason why Beatrice was tormenting him in the first place was to get him motivated to actually try and discover the truth.

What ep 6 is referring to is about Beatrice being Battler's ideal woman.

>>15698975
it said she was instilled with the goal to love battler and make him acknowledge her. theres also the whole thing about wanting to create a universe/ share magic with battler..but i don't see how since shes torturing him the whole time. at the end of episode 4 she was completely dissapointed in battler

I don't remember reading, but does Erika have a lot of trouble to put a ring on Battler's finger?

>>15699018
Yeah, the finger was rather small and the ring didn't fit in.

>>15699039
Ha, okay. I remember Erika sucking Battler's finger and I could figure if it happened or if I remembered it wrong.

>>15698993
It wasn't torture, it was actually a game. Like two children playing with each other. Battler often remembers in ep5 and ep6 that how much fun they had together, playing this game, even though he had to watch his relatives get killed over and over again, he can't deny that he enjoyed the battle of wits they had.

http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Mystery_vs._Anti-Fantasy

So anti-fantasy or anti-mystery? Which side do you guys take?

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>>15699063
Here's a helpful visual representation.

>>15699274
Please stop. I already have a unhealthy lust for Bernkastel's and the Stakes' asses, I don't want to have an Erika Dominatrix fetish to add to the list.

>>15699325
>blushing Erika
She's clearly enjoying it.

>>15699286
Domination is fun.

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Jesus, why do I keep fucking up?

>>15699343
I want to spank Erika and take a good look at her blushing, sweating and crying face.

>>15699350
I want to chain Erika in collar around her end section limb of her body and pierce her nipples to put in nipple rings.

>>15699361
>pierce her nipples
Yeah, no. Mutilation is a no-no.

Am I the only one who thinks the only good part of Umineko is episode 1 + episode 7 tea party? Why are the rest so shit?

>>15699393
Because you were expecting a sequel to Higurashi.

>>15699393
Because you're taste is shit.

>>15699389
You know nothing of domination. Nipple piecing is the absolute form of submission. It is the equivalent of a ring of marriage but of the soul. Not only that but it serve a duel purpose as it is hidden under the clothes and it is only when the submissive partner is entirely naked does she give herself to you. But even when she is closed, she still, essentially, belong to you.
There is no greater submissive position other than being naked on the floor, begging to be broken and taken.

>>15699400
But I didn't, I just wanted to have an actually good story.
But now that I think about it, maybe it really would have been better if it was more like Higurashi.

>>15699408
>tfw furniture
>tfw teenager love problems
>tfw pointless fantasy scenes

Yeah, sure. It really is R07's greatest work, for sure!

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>>15699427
Sorry, but it is.
You liked Episode 1 because it reminded you of Higurashi's mystery, and the fact that you hated Yasu's self-esteem issues and the whole fantasy issues means you wanted a real mystery instead of the "okay I murdered you're mom in a closed room, tell me how I did it or I win".

>>15699447
But why make episode 1 like this when the rest of the series is totally different? Cheap bait, Ryukishi. Cheap bait. It took a totally different turn at ep2.
He should have just made the first episode already with the meta and fantasy elements instead of fooling me into thinking that this will be a good series.

Well at least most of the human characters were entertaining and the music was good.

>>15699466
shit taste.

>>15699466
Well, it can actually be defended as it being the pawn's point of view, but yeah, Ryukishi is a bit cheap.
>advertise Umineko as mystery
>the actuals mysteries aren't the murder but the whole meta bullshit

>>15699466
>But why make episode 1 like this when the rest of the series is totally different? Cheap bait, Ryukishi. Cheap bait. It took a totally different turn at ep2.
>WHY CAN'T THINGS STAY THE SAME!!!!
Really? Come on, It comes full circle by the end.
>starts off with no magic
>ends with so much meta that it goes back into the real world

>>15699474
Sorry but I don't like reading walls of text upon walls of text about teenager love issues and fairy tale scenes.

>>15699476
Yeah, that is what I am talking about.
He should have just started with meta Battler and meta Beatrice already present. It was completely unnecessary to write ep1 the way it was written if the rest of the story goes into a whole different direction and have a whole different atmosphere to it.

>>15699493
>strawmanning
You lost the argument.

>>15699493
I wanted things to stay the same because episode 1 was actually legit good. The rest I didn't enjoy. They lacked suspense and atmosphere, felt like a mess to me.

>>15699503
It would have been a little too complicated, I think. He did a fine job of introducing each level with the Tea Party and the ?????, introducing everything from the very beginning would've made everyone even more confused.

But Umineko is a trainwreck anyway. Apparently the guy who helped Ryukishi to not fuck up died.

>>15699504
It's called reformulating, not strawmanning. For it to have been a strawman, I would have to purposefully make it bad to tear it down. All I've done is hyperbole your original claim into an exaggeration so that it becomes self evident that it's stupid.

The bottom portion answers your original question of why making ep 1 a certain way while making the rest different. Because it comes back full circle.

>ep 1
>barely any magic
>Kinzo is created by illusion, not magic
>ep 2
>a bit of magic, but barely any
>ep 3
>lots of magic
>barely any parts with the detective
>ep 4
>only magic
>the detective only shows up at the end
>ep 5
>the meta has now taken over
>the detective is even part of the meta itself
>ep 6
>the detective is no longer existing
>it's all about the meta
>ep 7
>meta within meta about the meta with the meta
>ep 8
>everyone's happy in the meta
>merging the meta and the real world
>the meta becomes so pervasive that the real world sinks in until all there is is the real world

>>15699518
Enjoy whatever you want, I personally don't care what you like or don't like. Being vague by saying ''it's a mess'' without explaining yourself doesn't keep me confident.

>>15699522
You could say it was easier this way to write an introduction but it wouldn't be that much harder to write an episode 1 where the meta is already present.
It was a deliberate, cheap trick. Baiting people into reading and buying episode 2.

>But Umineko is a trainwreck anyway
Pretty much. This is what happens when you aim too high and fall flat.

>>15699558
And when you're too much of a quack to write things properly.

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Sorry to interrupt this legitimate discussion about why my favorite series is shit. I did a few final touch-ups on Ange.

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>>15699580

>>15699580
>shadow under the breast and skirt
Perfect

>>15699545
But that list is wrong.

Episode 2 had tons of magic already.

>Being vague by saying ''it's a mess'' without explaining yourself doesn't keep me confident.
I already said what I didn't like.
I hated the lack of suspense and tension.
I hated the randomly thrown-in magic scenes which were pointless.
I hated that it became a full-blown love story.
I hated that it started to focus only on Beatrice and Battler, Jessica/Kanon and George/Shannon most of the time.
I hated the meta itself. Arguing with a witch about whether witches exist or not? How retarded is that when you think about it?

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>>15699580
See-through skirts never fail to be perfect.

>>15699566
And I actually want you to argue instead of just shit-posting.

>>15699614
>strawmanning retard want people to take him seriously
Nah. Show some respect first, because so far you only proved yourself to be just a deluded fanboy.

>>15699598
>Episode 2 had tons of magic already.
I meant within the game itself, not the story.

>>15699609
I'm glad someone agrees.

>>15699640
Of course you'd agree with yourself.

>>15699652
Of course! If everyone agrees with me, why would I also agree with myself?

>>15699652
Just when I had thought I wasn't the only person on 4chan

>>15699598
>I hated the randomly thrown-in magic scenes which were pointless.
Except for the fact that none of the magic scenes were pointless. Each of the magic scenes often had a very specific point to them. It is through the magic scenes that the motives of the characters and relationships were shown, and oftentimes it hints at the true motive and identity of the culprit.

I think your complaints are just from the fact that you didn't enjoy the nature of the story, and I can understand that, but I don't think that means the story itself is a mess.

>>15699575
I honestly prefer this outfit over the lewd one but because this seems like more of an alternate outfit more than a lewd wear, ah well.

If we ever end up making alternate secondary outfits after finishing the lewd ones, we'll add it along with Maria's gap moe dress.

>>15699729
Yeah, That's what I was thinking; it's not quite as lewd, but seems more realistic.

>>15699594
I also darkened the shading all over, tried to improve her cleavage, plus about a half-dozen other small fixes here and there.

>>15699792
Yeah I noticed, really good work there.
The lining of the skirt is greatly improved. The see through is better, the shadow on the beast is great, the arms look more tan and alive rather than looking like weird sticks.
A lot of great little improvements. I was particularly glad to see the shadow under the breast and under the skirt that you said you were working on.

>>15699792
Not to mention you connected the collar that hides her breast to the rest of her shirt. The original looked weird since it just was standing on top of her breast with nothing really holding it.
Seriously, that's some great work. Both the lewd and alternative outfit is possible the best work yet.

>>15699820
>>15699833
Thanks, it's nice seeing how the quality improves with each piece. Now, onto Jessica! And possibly Beato.

>>15699847
beato is too pure for a nude edit

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>>15699913
>Beato
>pure

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>>15699687
Maybe I wanted a more orthodox mystery story. Whatever. If you enjoyed it I am glad. I am not the type of guy who wants to ruin other people's fun.

It's just ep1 was misleading. It was horror and mystery mixed together and it was exactly what I like the best.
I liked the whole thing about the adults' mind-games they played with each other and how they fucked with each other, I was really disappointed they became only minor characters as the story went on.

>>15699913
Someone requested it. and I'd still have to do it eventually. And being pure has never stopped me before. Hell, I already did that one Dlanor edit.

>>15699847
C-Can I make request too? I would like to see Kyrie's nude edit if possible.

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>>15699951
>Maybe I wanted a more orthodox mystery story.
GEEE WHERE HAVE I HEARD THIS BEFORE?

>>15699972
>I would like to see Kyrie's nude edit if possible.
One at a time, we don't want to overload him.

>>15699972
Sure, I'll see what I can do. Three at once may be a stretch, but I've go a ton of free time this week.

>>15699983
Also, if you're going to do Kyrie, could you reduce the size of her breast. Those torpedoes are pretty insane.

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>>15699983
>>15699980
Oh, it's not that urgent.
Just wanted to reserve a place in queue.

>>15700001
It's fine. I'm the one who picked the last 5 characters to be lewd.

>>15700000
Kyrie isn't Kyrie without torpedos.

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>>15700027
I made one beforehand. How's this? I didn't really decrease the size much, just made them a little less pointy.

>>15700040
Looks like a nice start to me. Keep up the good work, man.

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>>15700027
What do you call these?

>>15699974
I wonder what Umineko would have been like if George was the detective.

>>15700040
They still look like torpedoes. Do you think you could reduce the size of her breast a bit?

>>15697284
Now that you mention it, that is a strange inconsistency.

>>15700061
I call them flat chest.

One of the reasons I don't like the ps3 sprites.
Kyrie's breasts should never be nerfed. She has always been the busty and hot "step-mom".

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>>15700067
Why don't you like big breasts? What's wrong with you?

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>>15700074
I honestly don't understand why the inconsistency exist. The reason Rena wears the arm band and neck collar is to cover up her old suicidal cut marks. The VN doesn't really mention or show it, but the manga makes it clear that Rena was so fucked and angry at her mother that the only way she sought to get back at her was to destroy herself. Which, in turn, would make her mother look bad somehow. The manga even shows Rena cutting her neck with a utility knife. And I'm pretty sure the anime shows Rena in the bathrub, looking at her wrists full of cuts. Yet for some weird reason, Rena doesn't wear arm bands or a neck collar in her school outfit. It makes no sense. Her friends would obviously see the scars. And it makes even less sense if she wears them when she dresses casually since she doesn't wear them while going to school.
So what the hell?

Adding the touch of Rena having a wrist band and neck collar in all her outfits would add a more subtle weight to her past without it being mentioned. But this is present in NONE of the art variation. From the manga to the anime to all the different types of sprites.

I just don't understand. And I feel like I'm the only one who's noticed this strange inconsistency.

>>15700092
I like big breast. Not torpedo breasts. As Jin says, it's not the size of the breasts that matters, it's the shape. The ps3's shape is superior to the torpedo tits.

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>>15700158
Try to make a DFC Kyrie.

>>15700121
>I like big breast
>t's not the size of the breasts that matters

Contradiction.

>The ps3's shape is superior to the torpedo tits.
The ps3 sprite doesn't even have a shape, it is literally small breast.

>>15700158
The second one is perfect.

>>15700197
>Contradiction.
Did you not read the rest?
It's not the size that matters but the shape itself. You can have G-H size breasts that are disgusting to look at but it's the shape that matters.

>small breasts
>don't have a shape
So long as it's not a DFC, it has a shape. Don't be dense with me.

>>15700202
I read it all but you can't call yourself a lover of big breasts if you prefer shape over size.

>You can have G-H size breasts that are disgusting to look at
Let's agree to disagree

>So long as it's not a DFC, it has a shape. Don't be dense with me.
Ps3 Kyrie looks like a fucking man.

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>>15700216
>Let's agree to disagree

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>>15700216
>Let's agree to disagree

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If 4chan has taught me anything, it's that you cannot argue fetishes, you can only agree to how idealized it can be.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nt9pwRdCvo

Post CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED seacat music

>>15700298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U209xHIvW8

I seem to be the only one who absolutely loves this piano piece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrmr_vHpZI8

>>15700351
I am pretty sure that is considered a fan favorite.

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The problem with Kyrie's breast is that they seem like implant. I don't want to get into a ramble about natural breast and implants, when anime idealizes and confuses the two, but Kyrie's breast look horrible. The nipples are obviously pointing in two separate directions. One of easy way to tell if breasts are implants is if they point in separate directions. This is caused by the plastic doctors place dislocates the natural fat weight. Another is when breasts, together, look like an ass shot. I'm not saying that natural breast don't make an ass shot when squitched together or when supported with a bra, but if breasts without a bra makes an ass shot, they're implants.
And implants imo are never as good looking as natural breasts.

>>15700383
>I am pretty sure that is considered a fan favorite.
I'm always the only one posting it whenever ''post your favorite umineko ost'' question comes along.
I mean, it's not underrated, but no one seems to love it. It's only used once and I would argue that it's one of the best moments in the entire VN.

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>>15700177
Here's what I've got so far. I'm tired, I'll see you anons tomorrow.

>>15700418
I'm fine with implant Kyrie. After all, who knows what she went through just to keep up with Asumu and get Rudolf to herself alone.

>It's only used once
I remember at least two occasions.
First in ep2, then in ep4 I think. And maybe in Chiru too? I don't really remember but I am sure it isn't just one time.

>>15700418
>It's only used once
Answer is used more than once. I can't remember when, but it's in Chiru's sound files, and there are also two versions of it in Episode 1-4's files, so it has to be in at least 3 scenes

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>>15700081
Poor Kasumi

>>15700447
It is definitely used in ep 2 when Battler and Beatrice start the game, then in ep4 when George becomes a badass and turns down Gaap's offer. I am not so sure about the 3rd time but I think it's in ep6 when George confronts Eva before fighting Eva Beatrice. Correct me if I am wrong.

>>15700456
Kyrie stole everything from her.

>>15700461
Yeah, you're right
https://youtu.be/6D9xovJMRZI?t=6m29s

Talking about underrated music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6hYsUuCxGw

>>15700298
Cage is great. Peaceful song, but instills a slight sense of sadness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ekl2p3Is7E

This one is really nice.

>>15700442
>I'm fine with implant Kyrie.
Disgusting. If anything, Kyrie is fake big breast, she's actually a DFC betrayer.

>>15700487
I also liked how Cage played in ep8 during Nanjo's puzzle.

>Mystic Forest
Now when does this play? I absolutely forgot about this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX32Qeq9z1s

Ep 7 has really good music.

>>15700490
>DFC betrayer
Understandable, since anything is better than that. I want to suck on Kyrie's gigantic fake breasts and suck and lick all day.

>>15700418
>implants
This got me thinking. Maybe Kyrie is actually a man who made himself a woman just for Rudolf's sake. Just like Yasu with Battler. Hmm....it all makes sense.

>>15700577
Maybe everyone's a man!

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>>15700624
Yeah makes sense, since it is Umineko we are talking about!

Kinzo met the original Beatrice, who was a lustful cross-dresser who was chased away by the fascists/nazis. They had a passionate relationship but Beato died of AIDS. Kinzo adopted a young boy from the Fukuin House and made him cross-dress just like the original Beato...this was the Kuwadorian Beato. By the power of magic, Beato II gave birth to Yasu.

Natsuhi was a poor boy forced to cross-dress as a woman and marry into the infamously gay Ushiromiya family. Jessica is actually Natsuhi's younger brother but he was raised as the daughter of Krauss and Natsuhi.

Eva was actually born as female but she had operations and changed herself into a man because of the inferiority complex she had when she was young. Now he still dresses like a woman to keep up appearances but he can rest easy knowing he has a penis just like Krauss and Kinzo. George was adopted.

Kyrie was explained already.

Rosa being the youngest of the four siblings, had to endure constant buttfucking from the others, he was the fuckboy of the family. He fucked a whore and Maria appeared - whose real name is Mario and is a boy of course.

Rudolf - to hide the fact that he is gay just like his family - played the role of a playboy but he couldn't suppress the lustful feelings he inherited from his Grandfather.

Kumasawa is man too, he was usually gangbanged by Kinzo, Genji and Nanjo on lonely nights.

Battler and Ange were both adopted and Ange - real name Angelo - developed an unhealthy obsession with his brother's dick.

Yeah. EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE FINALLY.

>>15700754
>Ange - real name Angelo
Genius.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aDk-Kxen9E

Almost forgot how good of soundtrack End of the Golden Witch has.

>>15700624
Maybe everyone's in on it- oh wait

>>15700832
>not posting the best song
Let me help you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ylNrVEvzY

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Would you have enjoyed Umineko more if you knew beforehand what the real mystery was?

>>15703007
It is boring to play a long ass VN like this when you already know the mystery beforehand.

I would have enjoyed Umineko more if
>the adults got more screen time
>less Shannon and Kanon
>more gore/more creative kills would have been in it, like the first twilight in EP1 and EP2
>no meta/ no magic, only the perspective of the detective

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>>15703052
You misunderstood, or I badly explained.
My main beef with Umineko is that you're told is a mystery novel, and then it tries to bait you with the closed rooms murders when the real mystery is to determine who wrote the episodes and why.
I personally hated it the first time I read it because I thought everything was about the murders and that by finding the culprit, it would end the game. Except that you're not supposed to focus on the culprit, you're supposed to find Beatrice's true identity, figure out who wrote the varios episode, and not spank Bernkastel's loli ass.

>>15703052
I could get behind the first three, but that last change would make it an entirely different series. It's like you're saying "I dislike Umineko for being Umineko."

>>15703066
Well yeah, Umineko is more like a romance-mystery if you think about it. It was never about the truth of Rokkenjima, it was about Battler and Beato's relationship.

>>15703087
I really enjoyed Legend of the Golden Witch because it was different from the rest of the series.

>>15703184
> I really enjoyed Legend of the Golden Witch because it was different from the rest of the series.

I get that, and that's totally fine. But saying that you wish that the rest of the series had stayed that way when it didn't is like reading a book and then saying "I liked the prologue, but I really wish that the author had written a different book." In the end Legend was only a small part of Umineko, and saying that it was the only good part is basically the same as denouncing the whole series.

>>15703184
The problem is that, as said earlier, the first episode is totally different. So you get the rest of the game expected a real mystery, and you get witches doing magic stuff.

>>15703066
>My main beef with Umineko is that you're told is a mystery novel, and then it tries to bait you with the closed rooms murders when the real mystery is to determine who wrote the episodes and why.
See >>15699974

>>15703066
anon... do you spank your cats? do we need to call animal control on your cat-molesting ass?

>>15703884
Who's the cutie on the left?

>>15703970
Rose. She gets raped like three times.

>>15704029
>raped
>not spanked
All interest dropped.

>>15704029
Tortured, NOT raped

>>15704066
Raped by three nihilist.

>>15704157
Gay man didn't rape her.

Spike sex was consensual.

3rd time?

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>>15704176
>Gay man didn't rape her.
He still destroyed her.

>3rd time?
Well, it's more attempted rape but close enough.

>Spike sex was consensual.
>pushing a woman down and forcing her into sex through blackmail is consensual

>>15704254
>the novel suggested all the abuse the prostitutes went through
>manga decides to shove it in your face
I know manga readers have a bad reputation, but thinking so little of them is really insulting.

>>15704277
Being implicit is more fun.

>>15704319
Suggesting is more artistic. I'm not surprised shitters are forced to go into details.

>>15704344
There are some things that can be done through vagueness and suggestion in literary form but not in an artistic way.
I find that both are fine but a slight preference to vagueness.

>>15704384
Maybe it's because I have a lot of imagination, but I always found it even worse when the violence was suggested rather than detailled.

The two exceptions that come to mind are the descriptions of the tortures in Higurashi (both the nail thingy with Shion and the Rika's death by gut-ripping) and in Eisenhorn's book when a heretic is flayed alive.

>>15704254
To be fair, when I raped the VN I thought she got raped in that scene. To me surprise that wasn't the case

>>15704420
>when I raped the VN
What the fuck.

>>15704423
He probably meant *read*.
When you think of rape, you can only think of rape.

>>15704420
>I thought she got raped in that scene
The thing that people don't understand is that rape is not a good substitution for evilness unless done right.

>>15704478
Sorrry, I meant read

>>15704513
Because Ryukishi is a quack who think that people are nice unless they torture, kill or rape.
He doesn't know that there are other ways to be an asshole.

>>15704567
>hasnt read umineko
>hasn't read about the characters Eva Krauss, George

>>15704576
Who's Eva Krauss?

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>>15704567
Without love it cannot be seen. Even Miguel is somewhat nice when he's not being insane or misogynistic.
Wang is still the best
>randomly asking a woman into his bed like a stud, not giving a shit about who she is and just wanting to fuck Zel because she was pretty.

>>15704590
He's our hero to all.

>>15704594
His back and forth banter between seriousness and childishness was the best. It throws you off guard and if you understand his wavelength, he's fucking hilarious.

I honestly couldn't stop laughing whenever Wang was on screen. The guy was a pure madman.

>>15704604
>>15704619
I love clocks, know 4 languages and by the way OUR CHINA MEN ARE BURNING DOWN YOUR FACTORIES!

>>15704648
Okay, now say Thhaaankkk yooooouu for letting you buy radioactive canned food made for one cent cheaper on something we wouldn't dare fucking eat ourselves. Hahaha, fucking Japanese dogs eating literal shit just because it's cheaper.
>y-you don't understand Rose, it might taste like shit, not at all like the real stuff, it costs less! We business man have to follow the free market!
God I love Season 3.

Ifff you have one person who is neither male or female what is that person?

>>15705188
Asexual.
Furniture.
Subhuman.

>>15705188
Pansexual?
I spend too much time reading shitty SJW viewpoints.

>>15705415
Does that mean that person would be attracted to bread? Hue!

>>15705415
I think pansexual means that someone is attracted to everyone or everything. It doesn't have anything to do with the gender of a person

>>15705469
No, that's omnisexual.

>>15705489
Is there a difference? Both pan and omni mean "all"

>>15705489
>>15705516
Only Jack Harkness is omnisexual.

>>15705516
If you're everything, then you're nothing.

>>15705188
I think that's called either agender or asexual. I'm not really sure what the difference between them is

>>15705188
The technical terms are probably intersex, a biological description for people who have mixed reproductive traits, and third gender, for a distinct gender identity that is neither male nor female.

Let's talk about Higurashi!

>>15705691
Let's talk about the absurd brain parasites

What was the whole point of that battle with George and Jessica in Ep 4?

>>15705719
They existed but only further the paranoid, they didn't create it.

>>15705720
That they're both worthless humans?

>>15705725
Nah, the author was obviously trying to convey something in that scene. Maybe because of how determined they were.

>>15705735
The meta never happened. Both George and Jessica are worthless people. Jessica can open her legs and George can read wikipedia articles and be a small accountant for his father.
Their determination and fight never happened.

>>15705761
>small accountant
Hey fuck you.
Being an accountant takes experience

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Is there any important difference between Higurashi Sui PS3 and Vita?

>>15705761
Ok, Goat-san

>>15705828
I still find it funny that people still give me a positive trait of Jessica without mentioning her body.
And, as Kinzo said, George lacks all qualities that makes a man.

>>15705812
They're the same, as far as I know

>>15705735
No, I don't think it had any deep meaning in particular. Neither any of the fantasy scenes for that matter.
If anything, it is a foreshadowing of episode 7 tea party where Rudolf and Kyrie lure them out with the same "Grandpa wants to test you :-D" excuse and kill them.

>>15705845
>as Kinzo said
Kinzo is the biggest faggot out of all of them, he had no right to say anything bad about his family, he himself is the most pathetic piece of shit in the entire family.

>>15705854
I doubt ryukishi would write all that with no intention, especially considering determination is a major part of the story.

>>15705863
>no intention
It looked cool. That is literally the only purpose of magic/fantasy scenes.

>>15705874
I disagree with you. The magic scenes have a purpose/ truth inside of them. Without love it can't be seen.

>>15705881
Love is an illusion.

>>15705691
EP3 > EP1 > EP 6 > EP5 > EP2 > EP7 > EP4 > EP8

Does anyone know if the PS3 ports of Higurashi and Umineko are available from PSN? I want to buy them, but shipping games from Japan is so expensive

>>15705912
Ep 6 > Ep 1 > Ep 5 => Ep 3 >= Ep 2 = Ep 8 => Ep 7> Ep 4.

>>15705946
Ep 1 >>>>>>>>>> all the rest of the trash.

>>15705949
The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
The genius of Higurashi is its structure beginning from ep 1 to ep 6.

>>15705978
I still prefer Onikakushi.
That feeling of paranoia. That bitterness when you know what actually happened and how hard the girls tried...

>>15705987
At first Onikakushi was also my favorite.
But now that I think about, I liked Tatarigoroshi better. It is just fucking crazy.

>>15705998
The one with Shion? Dunno, I'm not fond of the whole torture thing.

>>15705874
t. goat

>>15706007
No, ep3. The one where Keiichi kills Satoko's uncle.

>>15706012
t. shitposter

>>15706014
Ha, that one. Pretty cool, yeah, through I never really understood why Keiichi suddenly cared so much about Satoko.

>>15705987
You don't understand ep 1-6 itself is genius. But I agree with >>15705998 that ep 6 was perfect.

>>15706033
It's just the difference in kakeras.
Onikakushi is the "route" of Rena.
Watanagashi is the "route" of Mion/Shion.
Tatarigoroshi is the "route" of Satoko.

Keiichi gets close to different girls in different worlds. I guess it makes that there is one where he gets interested in Satoko.

>>15706053
Because I judge them individually. And I really loved Keiichi's descent into madness in Onikakushi.

>>15706057
Yeah, but the reason seems weak. In all the others routes, it makes sense for him to get close to the girls, but he's mostly depicted as a rival to Satoko.

>>15706053
Tatarigoroshi is ep3.

>>15706033
Because she's cute.

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>>15706061
>as a rival to Satoko
Same case with Mion though, the only one he is already buddies with at the start of each story is Rena.

But both in Satoko's and Mion's case it can already be sensed in episode 1 that they care about each other in their own way. Satoko only insults K1 because she wants to play around with him, they really are like brother and little sister.

>>15706062
Names are complicated yo~

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>>15706077
Pretty weird there's some much art of her.

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>>15706104
Understandable, she is best girl after all.

>>15706117
She's not even the best loli.
Or the best blonde.
Or the best blonde loli.
Or even the best sister.

>>15704567
>Because Ryukishi is a quack who think that people are nice unless they torture, kill or rape.
>He doesn't know that there are other ways to be an asshole.
Have you even read anything other than Higurashi or do you just have alzheimers?

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>>15704580
>haven't heard of best character
I mean, I knew you had shit taste, but damn.

>>15705912
EP6>EP7>EP1>EP3>EP5>EP8>EP2>EP4

>>15706204
Took you six hours to make that Photoshop?

>>15706219
Literally 2 years in MS Paint.

>>15706228
I'm happy you finally got to use that picture.

>>15706232
I actually just made it right before I posted it, took me less than 10 seconds.

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>>15706204

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what dord beatrice mean by absolute promised miracle? this part always confused me.

>>15706422
Creepy.

>>15706473
does

>>15706480
dord!

>>15706473
Are you just looking for anything in this series to ask a question about in these threads?

>>15706494
i am just trying to discuss the series, it seems you rather troll or shit post

>>15706494
Anything to keep these threads alive, I guess.

>>15706494
i'll keep asking questions until i figure it out anyways. if you don't want me to post questions how about you help me solve the series.

>>15706473
the promised miracle is the miracle in which Battler discovers the truth and stops her