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Previous thread: >>15634718

This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.

What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
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>I'm a several hundred year old spirit, but I'm still a pure, innocent little girl who's never kissed a guy before ^_^

Do moebuta seriously like this shit?
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Tfw the game literally starts like this.
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>>15655816
Yes. Got a problem with it?
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how do you fix this problem for フローラル・フローラブ ? everything like administrative is set to japanese and I used AlphaROM but it doesn't work
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>>15655830
I had it for my PSP and dropped right after the first scene.
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>>15655816
Man I really hate that setting even though I'm a moebuta as well, it feels so unnatural and retarded. Another example of that is Chloe from Traveling Stars; She is older than 100 years old & from the strongest clan and beautiful as fuck but apparently not even a single male has complimented her ever.
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>>15655876
RLSE Loader.
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>>15655876
oh never mind I'm silly
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>>15655884
She's clearly an evil vampire, no?
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What chapter does Yoshino's route end at?
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http://seiiki.jp/gakkou/images/9th3_cg01.jpg

Seiiki series finally gets incredibly interesting with its true heroine.
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>>15656017
Am I missing something or are you really saying she's "very interesting" because she has small tits?
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>>15656018
Akiba-kei, small tits, small and slender body. What else do you need for a heroine to be very interesting?
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>>15656017
>Seiiki
Why does it have two 'i'?
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>>15656028
Are you pulling my leg man?
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>>15656029
It's a typo, it's actually seieki.

>>15656018
>>15656030
She's cuter than the other heroines at least.
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How come no hype for Baldr Heart?
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>>15656029
Because it's a kanji pun on 聖域 / 性域.
It's written as セイイキ in the title.
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>>15656033
It's clearly 性器。
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>>15656048
It clearly won't work for the new 学校のセイイキ in this case. 学校 is not supposed to have 性器.
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>>15656033
She's certainly cute but "incredibly nteresting" is a complete misnomer... Anyone becoming "incredibly interested" in a heroine due to a body type is kind of confusing to me. Unless he meant "incredibly interested [in fapping to the CGs]" or something.
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>>15656057
What if they again misspelled it, and instead should be 月光?
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>>15656041
Because /jp/ only plays shitty moege and not actually good games
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>>15656074
You don't believe there are people whose interest in a certain eroge kind of depends on a cuteness of heroines?
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>>15656074
I'm immediately drawn to games with characters like that because it feels like everything is shitty kyonyuu now.
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>>15656103
Well, this is mainly just a language situation. I don't equate thinking a heroine is cute to thinking she's interesting in any way. If he said, "I am incredibly interested in playing this game to fap to this cute girl" then I would understand, but he said the game itself was being "incredibly interesting"... by having a heroine with small tits? That's exaggeration at best and ridiculous at worst.
>>15656114
See above. Interested in fapping? Okay. Considering the choice incredibly interesting? I dunno man.
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>>15656041
I swore to never ever jump on the hype train after Sakura no Uta.
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>>15656118
I don't masturbate to eroge.
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>>15656121
Sakura no Uta was mistake.
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>>15655816
They gave an explanation for that. Did you even read it?
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>>15656157
Sorry, I skipped most of the game so I probably missed a lot.
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>>15656121
My expectations for SnU were high and it actually surpassed them.

Maybe you just have bad taste.

>>15656157
An explanation doesn't make it any less stupid and pandering.
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>>15656153
Everything, except Zypressen was downright garbage.
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>>15656167
I have no taste for a bloated moege.
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>>15656171
>I never read chapter 6
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>>15656166
>This game is shit!
>Well, I assume it's shit. I didn't actually read it.
Never change, /jp/.
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>>15656190
The person you're replying to is not >>15655816
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>>15655816
How do you know Japanese yet you never experienced this trope before?
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>>15656262
The same way you think sex is cool, never experiencing it. Not him.
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>>15656041
I couldn't finish BS Zero so I'm gonna wait to see what the verdict is
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>>15656190
I was referencing >>15629425
>Finished Senren banka. Pretty satisfied. The plot was nothing special and I ended ctrling through quite a bit
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>>15656262
I don't know it yet. That's why I visit DJT and try to bring their meme culture into this thread.
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>>15656755
Ayo matey! My name is Harry McKenzie (Born Harima Kenji), and I'm lost in search for the Daily English Thread, I hope you could be of help.

But since I'm here I'll have to ask you to stop bringing inferior Japanese culture to this thread, and to other threads as well and keep this American board the best way it could possibly be. American.

Cheerio.
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What a cutie. Do I have to clear other heroine's routes to access her route or can I just go straight to her from the start?
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>>15656915
You have to go through the important parts. At each heroine (Kokoro, Kyouko, Mana), you'll get a choice. Rejecting all three leads you to best girl. It's worth it. She's amazing.
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>>15656926
So it's similar to Eustia's route system? Neat, thanks.
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>>15655884

I haven't read it, but given your screenshot and the game description, isn't the problem more that you're a human complimenting a devil?

Granted the trope is still dumb.
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>>15655884
Does it actually say that she's objectively beautiful or is she just an ugly as fuck girl drawn as a cute anime?
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>>15655880
>>15655830
Doesn't cross channel start just like this?
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>>15656898
Man, I've broken my dick with those Luxury games. They're my favorite nukige brand by now.
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>>15655816
Know what's actually retarded and more blatant with this trope?

Christmas cakes.

A spirit is excusable.
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I love moege a lot
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>>15657330
I don't know japanese too, my friend. You certainly aren't alone in this regard
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>>15657332
I know Japanese and I love moege a lot.
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>>15657346
t. Clephas.
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>>15657346
Totally wrong. I am playing eroge without any need for a text hooker.
I used it for two or three years of studying Japanese but after I got to around N2-N1 level I stopped using it and I'm doing just fine without it now.
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>>15657346
> tfw I didn't use text hookers for more than 8 months because too lazy to set them up and full-screen looks better anyway
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>>15657358
t. stupid moebuta who plaes only new games moe games and shit like that aka opinion = not worth anything
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>>15657363
Can you stop this shit? You look fucking retarded.
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>>15657378
Wanna fight?
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>>15655977
7-3.

All routes are 13 parts in total, except for Murasame which is like 22 and ends in 9-2. Although that doesn't say much about their length, they're divided differently.
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What are some good vn games featuring heavy drug use? I'm smoking a blunt right now and i wanna play something
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>>15657468
https://vndb.org/g165
Don't expect anything realistic or too upfront though, japs can't into drugs.
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>>15657468
Subahibi has some pretty great drug scenes.
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>>15657484
I can't be bothered to sort through a literal pile of shit right now. Do you have some specific games on your mind?
>>15657488
too long
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>>15657468
Fairytale Requiem
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>>15657468
https://vndb.org/v16376
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>>15657498
>>15657499
Thanks i'll check that out mate
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>>15657498
The character routes must be quite the trip on drugs,
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>http://www.dmm.co.jp/netgame_s/dokyusei/
>伝説のNTRゲーム
I fixed it.
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>>15657498
If your stomach can handle, do yourself a kindness and play it. The game is awesome.
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These threads move way too fast nowadays. What happened?
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>>15657576
What do you mean? Surely more discussion, as long as it's on topic, can only be a good thing?
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>>15657588
Every other day there's a new thread. This isn't comfy at all.
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>>15655816
Why is that a surprise? How do you think people in previous generations would act when a sword transforms into a human?
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>>15657258
>Christmas cakes.
Why? It's not like every women that goes past 20 instantly gets married and/or gets fucked
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>>15657658
If she's attractive enough to be a heroine, she's attractive enough to get fucked at university,
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>>15657631
Yeah, I like my once a week threads
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>>15657671
Are you forgetting that the large majority of people are attractive in games like that?
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>>15657631
I agree I mostly just scroll and look at the posts with pictures these days, and then use forwardlinks to follow the conversation if I care
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>>15657588
Signal to noise ratio. On-topic posts get buried in all the shit.
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>>15657679
That's pretty much what I've been doing as well. No interest in any of the new releases though.
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>>15657677
They are still supposed to be the hottest girls in the MC's life.
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>>15657682
Just tune your radio machines to the appropriate wavelength. I believe the frequencies were distributed at the annual meeting last month.
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>>15657689
and? You don't think there's a degree of personal bias because the girl is giving him attention? A girl getting the title of hottest girl in "insert area here" really isn't that much of a big deal, unless it's at least country level
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>>15657662
I basically plunged myself into VNs right after kana was blown away, so never bothered myself with those.
>>15657576
More people want to alienate themselves from a freak show, taking place on forums and social media.
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http://www.studio-ego.jp/game/megutowa/
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My fucking sides. I love how high school 1st years in the eroge universe are magically 20 years old.
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>>15657782

Weren't they supposed to be dead and superseded by another company that mostly does roguelikes nowadays?
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>>15657833
They came back to life with Izumo 4 last year.
And with this new game they are actively renewing their style so they probably intend to try to stay alive.
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>>15657859
>renewing their style
It's like saying rotting zombies are humans with renewed bodies and souls.
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>>15657913
What do you mean?
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They really should have just used one or two writers for フローラル・フローラブ, Jesus Christ the protagonist character becomes a mess if you don't follow the most boring route.
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>>15658062
There is a route order? What is it?
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>>15658176
There's no route order, but there's a "true route" once you finish the main 4 girls routes. What I meant was that the protagonist's character is a mess in every route but the most boring one
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>>15658184
>True route isn't the primary girl
Been a while since I've seen that
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So after Senren Banka, I guess I'll give Tsuriotsu another try and see if I can finish it at least once. (Luna route)
In theory it's fun, but the game lacks some sort of hook or something.
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>>15658062
Besides the MC, is it good or bad?
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Is there a walkthrough for 龍堂寺士門の淫謀? All I found is a chinese one which is hard to follow.
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>>15658230
The common route and heroines are good especially Kano, Nanao and Suu. The routes on the other hand are very hit and miss. Adelheid's and Kohane's routes are sleep inducing (Masataka fully maintains his character in Adelheid's route), Nanao's route stops being interesting the moment it stops being relevant to the protagonist's past but Nanao and Masataka are a great pair, Suu's route comes off as half finished due to the ending and Kano's route is excellent but probably not worth picking up the game for. However the interaction between the MC and the heroines is noteworthy despite how boring some of the routes are.
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>>15658289
So basically a standard moege with above average heroines and character interactions?
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>>15658304
Yes. It would have been much better if the other routes got as much attention as Kano's did.
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アマツツミ seems to be getting pretty glowing reviews. Is it the real deal?
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>>15657553
>NTR

If only.
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>>15658336
Not as real as 千恋*万花 :^)
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>>15658336
I've picked it up and dropped it like three times. Maybe some day.
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>>15658363
Why?
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>>15658367
Seems like a lot of people are saying the dialogue and characters are interesting but I'm just not feeling impressed or engaged. The only real good part for me so far has been the excellent art but that can't really carry the game.
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>>15658061
Before they had a style, now they have none, it's dead. Picture is completely faceless and generic. Style is the soul. One with dead soul is zombie.

Before they had quality in the art. This picture >>15657782 is just ceap bad quality (regardless of style). Quality is the body. One with with dead soul and rotten body is rotten zombie.
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>>15658505
I'm not sure what are you looking at but this picture is not faceless for sure. It's quite different from their previous a bit depressing and darkish art. It's more modern, bright, and colorful. But it for sure has it's own charm.
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>>15658226
The joke about 元カレ still warms me up like a summer night.
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Why does Amatsutsumi randomly go on auto when I'm only left clicking or tabbing out I'm confused
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Super lovely Hotori-chan won in 千桃 Twitter 投票. Do you think her being an idol helped?

http://august-soft.com/senmomo_eve0729/
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>>15659138
Her being hot helped for sure.

I can't shake the feeling she's going to be Senmomo's Eris, though.
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>>15659168
Please no.
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>>15659168
what's wrong with Eris?
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>>15659198
She's acts like a bitch and doesn't get any comeuppance.
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>>15659198
It should be immediately obvious once you read through her route. What a disappointment. Not only does she act like a bitch but her whole character arc and actions in general are all "what the fuck?" and to me came completely out of left field given her established personality in the prologue.
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I might have to mute the voices for this one.
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>>15658505

http://www.studio-ego.jp/product.html

>alien eyes
>those disgusting noodle bodies

And nothing of value was lost.
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>>15659251
Why?
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>>15659293

They're pretty bad.
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リース baffled by spaghetti.
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>>15657246
Maonama is too real. A guy spending his 30th bday at home jacking it to his waifu.

Then, a demon girl comes out of his monitor sadako-style just as he's about to come, and he jizzes all over her face.

It's a shitty uninspired nukige but at least there are some laughs
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>there are actually people who make a habit out of skipping huge chunks of the story

I'll admit to two cases where I'll skip text: "DURRRR DURRR LETS ABUSE THE MC FOR SHIT THAT ISNT HIS FAULT ISNT THIS HILARIOUS XD" scenes and h-scenes. I'm not going to read through something that's going to make me scowl when I'm trying to relax, and the latter tends to be pretty boring and irrelevant to anything outside of said scene.

I'll occasionally slow down with both to make sure that nothing important is happening, though.
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>>15657790
This gets lampshaded in Totono. At the MC's birthday party someone asks him how old he is, and he says something like 18 because of convenience
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>>15659530

Yume Miru Kusuri does that with the loli imouto, too.
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>>15659138
She was definitely the worst girl in the prologue so I'm somewhat surprised. But I guess looking good + kurokami rooongu trumps all
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>>15659138
She doesn't share the same face trait of the other characters
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>>15659551
>She was definitely the worst girl in the prologue
Hardly.
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>>15659551
What makes you say that? If anything Kanami was the worst, though to be fair we barely saw her.
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>>15659622
kanami just wasn't a character

I didn't like how it seemed to be building the story into "We were supposed to be together why do you pick pink hair lady"

The angst around that shit made her annoying
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>>15657488
I've been rereading subahibi lately and the drug scene was so amazing, Kimika was so cute
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>>15660194
Agreed, Kimika best girl. I would have loved to have a Kimika-POV chapter, but at least we got 2 routes for her.
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>>15658977
It happened a couple times to me as well over the course of the game and I could never figure it out.
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>>15659516
I skip the following kinds of scenes

Ero scenes with shitty a CG
Scenes that blandly describes the town 2 minutes into the vn
Sequential and BACK TO FUCKING BACK character description info dumps (seriously japan, learn to show and not tell)
stock anime scenes (Y-You saw my panties didn't you)
Side Characters that never have anything interesting to say
Any time I can see where the conversation is boring because the writer like repeating themselves
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>>15660194
I heard that was a philosophical game, am I correct?
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>>15661489
Almost the same, I save before every light skip. I used to read every single line, but after all this time, you can basically spot a tedious pointless scene right away.
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>>15661517
We all live philosophical lives, dude.
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>>15661584
That's certainly true, but there are many games which do not adhere to the philosophical lifestyle.
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What is your dick looking forward to the most?

Jinsei Tsuukoudome's new game can't come fast enough.
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>>15661730
my dick gone
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>>15661730
即イキびしょぬれアスリート! ~潮吹き絶頂するアスリートヒロインたち~
ユニオリズム・カルテット A3-DAYS
巨乳ファンタジー外伝2after -オスタシアの野望-
炎の孕ませおっぱいエロアプリ学園
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>>15661730
I don't get it. It's an NTR game with multiple heroines? So you pick which one gets stolen?
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>>15661762

There's a few girls in it, bottom right is main heroine apparently. All their games have been kinetic VNs so far though with NTR end.
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Can someone please tell me if the sexual game Subahibi is a philosophical game?
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>>15661921
Yes. Play it now.
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>>15661925
Could you tell me more about it without spoiling anything? The extent of my knowledge is that the game is sexual and now I also know that it's philosophical.
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>>15661956
Not that guy. I haven't played this game, but I have heard several times that it deals a lot with the philosophy of Wittgenstein.
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>>15661975
Do I need to learn German now?
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>want to read VN
>don't want to commit to a full trilogy
Damn. Is Akatsuki no Goei worth it?
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>>15662072
No, not at all.
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>>15662072

You can just read the first one and leave it at that if you want. As far as I know, the story (and/or endings) aren't the biggest strength anyway. Comedy is.

People generally say the third is the best, but I've only read the first, so I can't comment on that. But if all you want is get to three fast, you can probably skip everything but Reika related stuff, as she seems to be the only heroine that actually remains a heroine. The second entry is also just a fandisc so it should be completely skipable. I've heard there is past related stuff, but I doubt it's important enough to bother with it.
That said, you'd be missing out on some (in my opinion) rather good comedy.


tl;dr: Even reading 100% isn't THAT bad. (4.5mb.. ) But chances are you want that, and you really don't have to. Focus on Reika and whatever else you enjoy.
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>>15662110
You sound like you enjoyed it, why did you stop after the first?
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>>15662110
>>15662113
Also woah, I just now looked at the screenshot. I didn't know there is a all-in-one version. This might help me kind of think of it like one game. I think I'll give it a shot this year sometime.
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>>15662124
It's shit. Don't bother.
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>>15662113
>>15662124

I rarely read "sequels" and such directly afterwards. I basically just finished the first one a good week ago. I do plan on continuing though. I actually thought I'd jump directly into the fd, but the lack of an actual Reika route (which is really weird..) and the fact that it was release week with new releases coming made me not do that.


And yes, there's an all-in-one version. The nice thing is that it updates the art to 720p. Obviously that cuts stuff off from the CG and such, but I didn't feel like that was a problem from the perspective of someone who didn't play the originals. The extra menu also collects all the endings, so it does really feel like "one" game of sorts. (pic related)
That said, one thing weird were the voices. The mixing was all over the place. One character was way too loud, except in rare cases. The other were mostly "normal" except in rare cases where it got super loud. It felt like they re-recorded some lines or something.. with a very different sound-level. Dunno if this is something in the original as well. Nor if it remains a thing after the first game. Do have the newest version too.
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What are all the Nakayoshi set append patches in the Maitestu+Monobeno Happy End torrent? Are they extra H scenes or something else? I don't really want to download 15gb.
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To whoever uploaded Doukyuusei and Kakyuusei back in 2014, I found your link in the archive, thank you very much. I've been looking for this for a while.

I still have no idea how to play it though.
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Do you guys upscale your games if possible or just play with native resolution?
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>>15662492
Unless the game actually supports 1080 properly, native, I can't stand the text not looking as sharp as it should.
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>>15662492
Native
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>>15662492
Depends. Full-screen is nice, but text sharpness gets maximum preference.
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>>15662492
Nah, there won't be any space left for my texthooker.
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>>15662492
I prefer full-screen even if upscaled.
I have myopia so I don't care about text sharpness too much. I'm used to blurry things I guess.
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>>15662110
>I've heard there is past related stuff
Probably shouldn't skip that if you're going to read the third one.
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>>15662492

Native most of the time, though I've recently started to rethink this after getting spoiled by Senren Banka. It's just with not native I have to go sit further away from the screen than normal and that can be annoying as well. (I don't like auto-mode, which I'm sure some people here find really weird.. probably because I've played waaaay too many j-rpgs in my life and am so very used to mash buttons.)
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>>15662765
I dislike auto mode too. It never meets my reading speed and I always find myself annoyed by it going too fast on some lines and being too slow on others.
And I was quite traumatized by forced auto-mode in KoiChoco back when my Japanese was awfully lacking to be able to comprehend it at even the slowest possible speed of any auto-mode.
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>>15662765
I never use auto mode, It's either too fast or too slow.
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>>15662765
I dislike auto-mode too. Its supposed to be convenient when your hands are busy, but its always too slow for voiced lines and too fast for unvoiced. Always baffles me that speed is dependent on presence of voice and you cannot set minimal amount of time line should be displayed regardless of length.
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>>15662492
I have to downscale some modern VNs because I play on a 1366x768 laptop.
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>>15662781
I'm pretty sure your Japanese is still awfully lacking. It's just that you've made up an excuse for it, the excuse being "it never meets my reading speed"
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>>15662829
Well, he said "too slow on others" so that really kills that theory eh?
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>>15662845
Not really once you consider that VNs have a lot of deep lines like えー in them
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>>15662854
But you can't tell what lines he's referring to. It's completely ambiguous. Therefore, your theory has no weight, only your bias for thinking people have bad Japanese.
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>>15662303
You just gotta run around and build affection and flag events.
For Kakyuusei at least where a heroine can appear is somewhat randomized but they have places they'll usually appear at a given time.
If you figure out where that is you can sort of game the system a bit and exploit to gain affection for that heroine pretty quickly by repeatedly going there back to back in the time window they're most likely to appear.
Otherwise events you just need to pay attention or hope to stumble on to them.
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>>15662927
>you can sort of game the system a bit
Isn't that just what the system is designed for, though?
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>>15662972
I don't they intended you to walk in and out of the same classroom for 4 hours every week because you want to start dating a heroine that shows up there frequently as much as spending those 4 hours heading to various spots, trying to raise affection "naturally".
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>>15662303
You just need to embrace your inner stalker instincts, that's what this series is all about.
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>>15662865
My theory is actually pretty well constructed. You will see that once you stop dismissing evidence like the abundance of very short lines in VNs.
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>>15662927
>>15663013

Is it possible to get a girl by playing blind without walkthrough whatsoever? I mean, will the girl drop some hints in game like where and when you can get her important event to romance her or what gift that she likes? I don't mind missing some CG's if I could still get her ending the natural way, since most of the walkthroughs I looked on the internet are exact way to play the game with the least saves instead of hints or event flags. And there's walkthrough on this magazine that I can't read.
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>>15663099
Using a walkthrough will save you a LOT of time and nerves since it's really easy to miss some important events if you're playing blind. The game does give you some tips, iirc, I think there's one house somewhere in the city where you can get advice on what you are supposed to do, but I don't really remember where it is located and how helpful it is.
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>>15663157

Guess I have to use one. Thanks.
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So can anyone tell me once and for all is the sexual game Subahibi a philosophical game?
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>>15663099
In Doukyuusei 2's case, the game gives you several hints if you the character you were going for refuses your confession at the end.
There's also a character you can only meet during nights that's specifically there to give hints.
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>>15663371
It's not.
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>>15663388
I've been getting conflicting reports. So which is it?
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>>15663371

"Shotacon Ryoubo-san ni Kawaigareru Subarashiki Hibi" is exactly what the name implies. Nothing philosophical about it. For most people that is.
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>>15663399
That's not what the titles says. The full title is Subarashiki Hibi ~Furenzoku Sonzai~
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I really like all the references to their other games Yuzusoft has show up in the background CGs of their games.
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Is there some kind of preferred route order for Tonakoi?
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>>15663371
Haven't read it, but from the comments and reviews I've got an impression it (and Sakura no Uta) mostly namedrops and borrows concepts from philosophy instead of presenting something of its own
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>>15663481
Perhaps consider that a game isn't a philosophical treatise.
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>>15663481
That's valuable info.
Still waiting for someone who has read the game.
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>>15663496
No, actually it's not valuable info. It's just that guy's guess.

Why don't you read both yourself if you're so interested in them?
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The battle seems to be starting today.
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>>15663371
Yes, it certainly is. You can think of it as essentially a very approachable intro to (Scaji's interpretation of) certain parts of Wittgenstein's philosophy, featuring cute girls. More importantly, though, it's just a lot of fun to read.

>>15663481
They borrow ideas from many other sources (like all good works do), but Scaji puts his own twist on them and arranges them into something unique. Subahibi and SakuUta are definitely their own things and don't feel derivative at all.
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>>15663507
I want to, but I like to get some info prior to reading something like this.
>>15663734
Thanks for the input, I guess my data collection will be finished soon.
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>>15663477
Nope
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>>15663590

The bath part is important.
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>>15661755
>巨乳ファンタジー外伝2after -オスタシアの野望-

http://www.waffle1999.com/game/68gaiden2after/online.html
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>>15662829
Not him but I remember having the same problem as him with English translated VNs, I never used auto mode. My reading speed is too erratic.
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Oh shit. Well that's a rarity for sure, coming from the protag. Also awkward.
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>>15664140
>English translated VNs
I think I just threw up in my mouth. thanks!
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Playing C;C. Do I actually have to play all the character routes to get the true end? I don't mind an Uki route, because she is cute, and an Arimura route but do you have to play every route? Hana seems like a waste of time and I just don't like Nono. I don't think there is a Kunosato route though since she doesn't appear to be a main heroine. One would be interesting if nothing else.
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>>15664140
What about your games in your native language?
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>>15661517
When I first played it, I was awed by the character interactions, their motives, etc. Didn't really give a shit about the philosophical aspect. Now on this second time, I can understand what I am supposed to appreciate on that aspect, but still don't really care. There are lots of interesting concepts but eh, guess it isn't for me, if you're interested you won't be disappointed I guess.
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>>15664152
ケっク reposted to djt
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>>15664273
well shit, slept and missed all the shitposting inbetween
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>>15664207
The true end only unlocks when you finish all of them. Hana route is bad but you should play through all of them
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>>15664207
Yes, you have to play every route. I actually found Hana's otherwise lackluster route one of my favorites due to the last scene, though it's very divisive and some people heavily dislike it.
Nono's is also great. Both Nono and Hana's routes also have more main plot relevant stuff compared to Hinae and Uki's, especially Hana's route despite its general silliness introduces some important stuff used later on.
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>>15664207
>>15664313
Also to add hope you got Uki's right ending. Unlike other heroines she has two separate named endings and only Dream Sky factors towards the true ending requirement.
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Her new voice is going to be worse, isn't it.
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>>15664330
at least not by a pornstar
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>>15662492
force fullscreen because my tablet is pretty small (10 inch) despite alright resolution (1080p)
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>>15664330
Why is she so shiny?
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>>15666041
the artist always wear sunglasses when drawing
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>>15664330
Why is there no color?
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Akari.
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>>15666405

Nice tree.
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>>15663253
>59,800
>back then
Holy shit.
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>>15665468
Do you stream from your PC to tablet? If so, what do you use? Moonlight?
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Fuck, if I knew about this before I'd go see Mareni.
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>>15666839
>Kazuki Fumi

NICE
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Is 49 Kg (that's 108 lbs for you, American friend) that big of deal?
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>>15667006
No, if anything it's almost unhealthy.
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>>15667006
Depends, how tall is she and how large are her breasts?
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>>15667006
Depends on age and height. For a 12 year old girl it's a bit on the heavy side. For comparison, Kana Hana is 156cm and 45 kg and Minase Inori is 154 and 38kg

Of course this is for Japanese standards, for Americans just add an extra 50kg on top.
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>>15667006
Presuming she is average height and is a late teenager? That's just fine, especially if she has a larger than average chest
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>>15667006
http://paro2day.blog122.fc2.com/blog-entry-9.html
that's definitely on the heavy side when you have girls like >>15667031 who you'd expect your cute anime waifus to be closer to
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>>15666857
trial when?
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>>15667006
Sounds normal
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>>15667371
For taller girls 49 kg would be normal, but according to VNDB that girl is 155 cm tall, and if you compare her weight to the average statistics of real Japanese girls she comes out as heavier than the norm.
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>>15667006
If that's what it takes to get attractive thighs like that instead of looking like a hungry skeletons with baloons glued to their chest I'm all for it.
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>>15667467
155 / 49 is BMI 20.4, that's normal healthy value, very far from "fat".
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>>15667779
No one is talking about being clinically overweight bud. It's about being normal / attractive, and that's above that.
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>>15667805
That's exactly in the normal/attractive range.
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>>15667821
Not really.
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>>15667834
But it is, she's around 155 and 49kg is perfectly normal for that height.
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>>15667846
Not for a growing girl that looks to be in her young teens. It's above average weight, hence she is shocked. That's the entire point of the scene.
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>>15667853
No, its below average. Average for her height is 53 kg, and she's "shocked" because author is idiot and promoting anorexia as norm.
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>>15667866
Found the insecure Amerifat.
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>>15667866
I'm sure it's more because the average eroge writer probably doesn't know how much teenage girls weigh and instead just pick a number in the same ballpark as they see in every other game.
Just like girls with half their mass in their tits only have a bust measurement of like 88.
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>>15667882
>>15667031
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what eroge is the most body positive
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>>15667890
Self-reported numbers by very popular idols are not "average" you moron.

http://nbakki.hatenablog.com/entry/Girls_Average_Height_and_Weight_by_Age_in_Japan
14+ year old japanese girl average weight is above 49.
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>>15667866
Look at this again you dumbass: >>15667074

She's above average for a Japanese person. Not fat, but by Japanese standards (even adult standards) she's heavier than normal for her height. Stop thinking in your own country's shitty standards.
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>>15667936
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>>15667936
https://vndb.org/v7000

Though I saw some much better non-vn eroge stuff on dlsite, but it would take time to find it again.
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>>15667936
Apparently there's this thing: https://vndb.org/v5392
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>>15667936
https://vndb.org/v11225
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>>15667006
Is the Japanese in this game difficult, like Maitetsu, etc are said to be? I've only read one VN in Japanese before and I'm currently on my second moege, and I'm thinking of reading this as my 3rd VN.
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Holy shit, the heroine routes in Senren Banka are the most childish shit I've read with this 間接キス crap

Are moege fans like 12 years old?
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>>15668364
fuck off
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>>15668364
If difficulty matters to you or you use text hookers then you should go back to DJT
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Anyone here read this?

https://vndb.org/v19216
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>>15668433
Nope, couldn't care less about some sort of doujin all-ages shit with fugly art and NVL-style text dumps.
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>>15668433
Wow, that looks pretty good, thanks for the link
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>>15668364
The style is definitely quite a bit more difficult than moege. Mostly outside of dialogue.
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Someone convince me that Dies Irae isn't Bleach with gore.
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>>15668480
Just read it. You only need to finish the prologue to get an idea of what it's like. By the way, gore is removed in the recommended all-ages version so that part of your analogy is irrelevant.
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>>15668480
Nah it's exactly what you think it is, stay away from it. Moege are better for you.
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>>15668480
It is bleach with gore, but with nazis instead of espada
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Which is better, IroSeka or AstralAir?
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>>15668654
IroSeka
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>>15668484
amantes amentes cut out all the adult shit?

shit, I thought it was just a straight upgrade, what version do I download now?
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>>15668722
Just download Acta est Fabula and Amantes amentes. The extra stuff in Amantes amentes is in an extra menu it seems.
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>>15668743
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>>15667936

Neither "body positive" nor "fat acceptance" are ideas that support men that are attracted to overweight women, as they're almost always coupled with feminist dogma, which is hostile towards male sexuality that doesn't exist solely for the sake of making women (particularly, their little group of women) feel validated. Why do you think that they all list "no fat fetishists" on their dating profiles?

"Body positive" is all about lonely landwhales trying to delude themselves into believing that women should disregard all outside opinions when trying to determine if their appearance is attractive. What's fun is when they experience positive male attention and try to maintain their newfound cognitive dissonance. The positive attention from men boosts their confidence far more than reciting body positive mantras ever did. Thankfully, this tends to be a losing battle for the body positive side, as that doesn't bring the practitioner any real joy. It takes strong social pressure from their environment to choose pointless suffering and frustration over happiness.


>DURRR DURRR STOP GOING OFF TOPIC

If you didn't want to talk about what "body positive" actually means, then you shouldn't have brought it up.

Just say that you're looking for games with THICC girls instead.
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what eroge has the best THICC girls
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>>15668847
I'm fat and beautiful. Back to /mensrights/, shitlord.
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>>15668889

Anything with art by Ooyari Ashito.
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>>15668889
What if I told you that you can make some good eroge of that kind right now?
Just eat a lot. Preferably something containing a high amount of beans and pepper. Then just follow your biological urges and you have yourself a brand new eroge with THICC girls.
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>>15668117
Jesus christ.
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>>15668968
I like the terminal illness
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>>15668889

I'm surprised that this isn't capitalized on more, honestly.

VNs are cheaper to make than manga and anime. You'd think that if a niche fetish were on the rise, the pandering would concentrate there first.
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>>15668989
Japs are too stupid for that imo
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>>15668989
There's thousands of nukige you haven't even heard of buddie.
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>>15668847
Shti guys the MRA got triggered, evacuate.
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Oh no, your childhood friend is about to get raped, what do you do?
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>>15669255
I don't play shitty NTR rage-baits.
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3rd day, for 1000 yen.
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>>15669255
Do what >>15669286 says

Also, hire a better artist that understands depth and human anatomy.
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>>15669255
the more the merrier
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>>15669255
I beat them up and rape them instead, that'll show them who's boss.
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>>15669286
>NTR rage-bait
Implying the protagonist even give a shit, he started whoring her out to his friends shortly after
>>15669301
>human anatomy
You can't have played much eroge if you can say that with a straight face
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>>15669082

>false balance

What part of that post sounds angry?

Wording is powerful, and feminist terminology seeks to associate "male sexuality" with "bigotry" at every turn. Consider what using "sexual objectification" in place of "sexy" has done to how people view anyone daring to try to give men a boner in media. It's become uncritically taken for granted among many that a woman in a bikini striking a pose for the camera is somehow, and they don't even think about the fact that the logic behind it is that men are sociopaths who are viewing women as mere sex toys. I could go on a long rant regarding "body positive" in particular, but to keep it brief, using it unironically enforces the idea that men shouldn't be free to decide for themselves what they find attractive in a partner, as nothing is more important than a womanchild's poor fragile feelings.

It's very important that people avoid feminist terminology when they aren't talking specifically about feminism. It's not a matter of feeling uncomfortable. It's a matter of depriving a hate movement of power by using their words. If you want to find stuff for your fetish, great. THICC girls, where? Don't use body positive to describe it.
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>>15668968
>Twin Tail Heroine
That's my fetish.
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Do we know anything about what kind of story Trianthology is gonna be?
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>>15669435
Uh, yeah? A lot? Have you looked at the web page?
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>>15669435
I have exclusive information straight from Japan! It's going to be a steaming pile of shit
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>>15669407

Only if she has cowtits.
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>>15669448
Not this again
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>>15669448
kys
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>>15669448
>cowtits
>cow
We need to go bigger.
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Tsuriotsu Luna finished. I still think it kinda lacks a hook and the middle part goes on FOREVER, but I think it was ultimately quite fine. Not much more though. I do feel they went a bit too far with Ion, doubly so once everything was revealed. Also I'm not sure what to think of them just not bothering to finishing up the "Luna's family" plot string which was basically one of the biggest problem makers of the freakin' game.
That said, Luna was mostly great, some of the jokes are great as well.. and I gotta say those ero scenes were quite some silly shit. Or rather the way they.. start? I laughed quite a bit. The option for the second scene was also something I didn't expect. That was quite S&M tier in some way. His butt got plugged.

Tried to read the afterstory afterwards, but a rather silly (and quite funny) scene basically said "stop, do it after reading the fandisc". That was.. something. Luna even tells you how to get the bad-ending which leads to it. Still, I did read the april fools part. At times funny, but it just overstayed its welcome, just like the maingame in some way. (it's like over an hour of voice-acting) Totally canon though. Totally.


Now, to read Ursule or not to read Ursule...
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>>15669513
Luna is the only route worth reading
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>>15669513
>and the middle part goes on FOREVER
Welcome to VNs.
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>>15669621

In this case it's actually worse than normal, or else I wouldn't even say anything. It also doesn't help that once some plot starts, it gets reset just to get more or less restarted from 0 a bit later again. Same stuff, more or less. Of course there's a "plot reason" behind it... but seeing how that doesn't even really get "resolved". It's.. awkward.
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>>15669448
>twin tails
>cowtits
good taste amigo
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>>15669513
It's brilliant how they solved the problem of Nishimata's horrible sameface syndrome by simply pairing her with other artists.
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>>15669700
It was a bad solution because the other artists draw worse faces than Nishimata. I'd rather have sameface than an ugly one.
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>>15669679
>amigo
As if further proof of cowtits being liked only by subhumans was needed.
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>>15656018
She's a a funny and interesting character

also best girl
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Do you guys get fucked hen listening to jap?
I mean I'm fine reading and stuff but suck at listening so can't enjoy some parts as well as others
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>>15669352
You just typed two rants over a simple joke, you're no different than "SJWs"
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>>15670354
takes time
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>>15670363
At least his post makes sense.
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>>15663377

I found her. She would be useful if I don't look to walkthrough earlier. Oh well, it's not like I could find her normally.
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>>15666793
nope, I bought a (chink) windows tablet exclusively for playing eroge.
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I have been learning moon for half a year now (yeah I know) and I thought about trying to start reading something even if I will not understand anything.

Where do you guys get your untranslated VNs from? I thought I could easily find them on sukebei but only the translated torrents are alive.

Do I need to get into private trackers and try to get into AB?
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>>15671014
Someone posted a tip to look for old eroge on baidu in the previous thread iirc. Sukebei is enough for newer ones.
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>>15671014
If you can't find something on sukebei/nyaa/animesharing then baidu is the next best place to look for stuffs.
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>>15671014
There's clubbox if you're desperate enough to deal with its shitty client and shitty everything else. Sometimes it's possible to find some pretty rare things there.
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>>15671014
Pleb tier: google, anime-sharing, sukebei, DDL sites
Japanese P2P tier: Share, PD
Korean adware but otherwise decent tier: Clubbox
Patient trader tier: Utatane
Desperate pay to pirate tier: 2djgame's FTP

To my knowledge there are no private trackers for eroge, at least I don't think AB has anything that's not the popular ones you can easily download somewhere else

If there's something like really really rare and you're absolutely certain you can't find working downloads for it in the usual places I might be of help, I delivered some rare old games here when anons asked but at the same time don't expect miracles
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>>15671330
Cool, what's your name?
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>>15671452
You can ask here I don't maintain any online identity
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>>15671486
Why is that?
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>>15669289
is hiruou selling the game anywhere online?
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Was nice.
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>>15670416
It doesn't matter, it doesn't have a place in this thread, he's just like SJWs who sperg out when someone uses a problematic word and start dissecting how they feel attacked by the mere mention of it. Besides I doubt the original poster used it unironically so there goes the strawman.
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>>15669289
The world building for this one sounded kind of serious, even though the trial was light hearted. I wonder how they're going to portray the P3 throughout the story, and if it has any correlation to real life issues like welfare.
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>>15671488
Because 4chan is the only place I post on.
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New ASa Pro's game looks incredibly fun.
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In case anyone missed it, a sequel to Noratoto was announced.
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>>15672185
Fullblown sequel or just short fandisc story?
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>>15672196
Full sequel as the temp name is Noratoto 2.
Two new heroines too, it seems.
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>>15672239
>one is so flat that she could pass a a male silhouette
>the other has tits so big they look like over-inflated balloons

Oh well, at least Nobuchina is main heroine this time.
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Any lolige I should be looking forward to besides Low Spec and Chiccakunai Mon?
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>>15672469
That Akabeesoft one for giggles I guess.
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>>15672185
Fug yes I need more patricia
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Surprised to see so much positivity for Nora Neko. Was pretty much the poster child of bad moege for me: Boring plot and excessively wordy about everything. The whole game goes nowhere. The heroines are cute as are practically all moege heroines but they're tied to a plunging rock of a dull game. Pretty much only worth it for ctrl-fing to H-scenes which are fairly erotic.
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>>15673140
It's nowhere as near as a bad moege. It was funny as fuck, but it was divisive as it had a nontraditional style. Japs received it fairly well in general but some people hated it too.
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>>15673420
I laughed a couple times early on, which put me in the mindset of "this is a funny game". But, even with that delusion influencing me, I still didn't laugh pretty much ever.
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>>15673432
I can imagine that, the comments in general are divided. It seems it either clicks with you or it doesn't.
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>>15673454
I don't really trust EGS in this case, because the ero in the game is really good, so I think a lot of those votes are more based on eros than the game itself which I'm judging.
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>>15673577
Is it that hard to believe people out there enjoyed it just because you didn't? Just read the comments then.
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Wondering what this would be like. https://vndb.org/v3097 Pretty interesting staff members.
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>>15673756
Too many cooks
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>>15673756
Do you even believe that it will come out ever?
Those writers also have quite incompatible style.
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>>15673756
It would be like this.
http://collaborations2005.com/taiyo/story.html
http://collaborations2005.com/taiyo/chara.html
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>>15673756
Vaporware.
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>>15673756
They are probably just waiting to announce that Shumon and Jackson are also working on the project.
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>>15673904
Don't forget about Mareni, Masada, Romeo and Ryukishi07.
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>>15673916
In this case they'll have to change the title to Bastard Child instead.
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>>15673904
>>15673916
I'm ashamed that none of you mentioned Oyama Dashin, the greatest author of our century. It is my dearest dream that one day he will grace us with his majestic writing once again.
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>>15674023
Every single image of this game is a masterpiece.
I still remember how the first trial was nothing like that.
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>>15674023
>Oyama Dashin, the greatest author of our century
Jesus christ JOKER was such a piece of shit
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>>15673636
I don't think it's hard to believe people enjoyed it, I just think the votes on a site about porn games will be unduly influenced by the porn content
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>>15674048
Except there's all ages games like Ever17 in the top 10.
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>>15674023
Surely it's someone continuing to work under different penname?

Or some poor guy that was fired totally and now works in konbini?
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>>15674055
Note I said a site about porn games, not a site that exclusively has porn games. Note, also, that I said the votes would be "unduly influenced", not that literally every all ages game gets shit on and all the good votes go to porn games etc etc etc.
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>>15674069
Eroge writers usually have multiple pennames and total newbies are not really going to write a whole game for a big company by themselves.
It's pretty obvious that it's someones penname which was used for experimenting with writing style.

There is no way to know if he still works for eroge industry or went to ranobe instead or even gave up writing all together.
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>>15674110
Yeah no you're dumb.
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>>15674121
When someone has no argument left they resort to name calling. If you have nothing to say don't say anything.
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>>15674023
Feel free to read the 600 page novel made from his cancelled next game.
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>>15674278
I don't see a problem with that since I'm not a DJT fag like yourself.
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>>15674110
Games that have good porn but shitty everything else are still rated poorly, even if they're nukige. Good porn is not enough to bring a game to median 80.
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>>15674278
I wonder how many pages he spent with stuff like pic related.
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>>15674362
This is how I bloated my elementary school essay words count.
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>>15672185
Fuck yes, the charcters and the whole game are just too good to let them die.
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>>15674359
I could definitely see the porn in this game boosting it from 70 to 80. It's important to note that for instance the beginning is filled with nudity so the ero is a part of the game thoroughly.
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>>15674902
lol
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>>15674359
Who knows, most of the comments basically shit on the routes and their drama.
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>>15672185
AWESOME, HELL YEAH
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>>15672840
And Lucia too, I hope she gets a route.
By the way Patricia ended up last place in the popularity poll, how can japs even live with their shit taste?
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Do you know the pain of falling in love with a secondary character. She even liked the MC more than the heroines themselves, this is torture.
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>>15674948
What the? I thought she was one of the best ones.
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>>15674978
Dropped this game three times, does the protagonist ever stop moping around?
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>>15674948
>Patricia ended up last place in the popularity poll
Not even baby jesus will forgive this sin
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>>15674948
Who won?
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>>15675022
4. Patricia
3. Yuuki
2. Michi
1. Shachi

http://harukaze-soft.com/nora/vote/vote_03.html
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>>15674981
I mean she was still above the secondary characters, she was the last of the main heroines, should've clarified that. Shachi was okay.
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>>15672185
I knew they couldn't just leave Nobuchina as a side chara. She was too funny.
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>>15675081
>Kuroki in 2nd place

lol
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Just started Gore Screaming Show, which is babby's first Black Cyc game for me. So far really digging the dark atmosphere, the music is fittingly dreary. Not to mention MC is a surprisingly cool guy, he beats the shit out of the guy who called his childhood friend used goods, despite MC being outnumbered.
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>>15676416
Maybe I'm just immature or something but I don't consider beating people up cool. If he was just name-calling then ignoring him and moving on should be fine. It's cooler to not let people like that bother you than to beat up people you don't like.
>>
Can you turn off the emote in Clover Day's Plus?
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>>15676449
Well it seems like his childhood friend was sexually assaulted, so I think for MC it seemed like a natural response. Not that beating up people is necessarily a cool thing, just that MC has some sort of drive to act and do something instead of standing by and watching.
>>
That feel when you were hyped up to last month games and still haven't played any.
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>>15667078

fucking this

i'm also anxious to see if it's going to be full mareni or if they'll use 87 other writers like in teito hiten
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What VNs have the best soundtrack of 2015/2016 so far?
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>>15678029

Taste and whatnot, but two eroge that come to mind are Senren Banka and Maitetsu. Unfortunately both of them have enough problems otherwise that you might be better off just listening to the OST outside of the games...
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>>15678029
I haven't been reading all that much this year so it's mostly 2015 stuff, but I really liked the music in Bansenjin, new Dies Irae, Rance 03 and Miagete Goran. Sakura no Uta had some pretty great vocal tracks too.
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Is there a site that displays the routes in games as flowcharts?
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>>15678245
Don't think so, but would be nice if vndb had it, a bit like these https://vndb.org/v979/rg
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>>15678029
Gears of Dragoon 2 had really nice OST for me. But then again I generally really like the recent OSTs for all of Nine/Dual-tail games, few of the eroge OSTs that I regularly listen to
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>>15678470
I like this feature, those spider webs can get pretty spooky sometimes.
https://vndb.org/v264/rg
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>>15678513
It pisses me off that you can't turn of the fan-fiction works in these charts which makes some much bigger than they're supposed to be.
https://vndb.org/v19373/rg
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>>15678513
Circus cannot be caged
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>>15678529
Don't you just love it when a character from a completely different series appears as a extra bonus character for maybe 5 lines and people link the two series together?
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>>15678245
Not all games are based around flow charts so it's probably not possible to force everything into a flowchart model.
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Okay, why is this girl so great once the protagonist switched into her body?

Dunno what to think of this. I also quite like the voice acting here. Leyline 2 starts nicely.
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>>15678884
Maybe you like tomboys
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>>15678981

I think it's a bit more. Most tomboys just have.. you know.. tomboy looks, tomboy voices and such. Also the way of talking and whatnot is still different. Tsubaki in this game is a good example. She's okay, but nothing more I feel.
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Anyone got an installation guide for Dies Irae for retards? Apparently I need one.

After installing it with the setup.exe I'm missing the Dies Irae Also Sprach Zarathustra file without which the patched malie.exe doesn't start. Anyone familiar with the process and got an idea where I'm fucking up?
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>>15679607
You could just download amantes amentes and call it a day.
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>>15679647
But my original experience
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>>15679680
Trust me mate, you don't want an "original experience" here, the newer games do nothing but add improvements that Masada himself directed/wrote. Pretty much every dies irae fan says Also Sprach Zarathrustra simply isn't worth playing.
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>>15679852
Ah I wasn't aware they made that many changes, I thought it's just the game with some gore scenes removed.
Alright, gonna go with amantes amentes then, thanks anon.
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>>15679896
No problem. It's usually recommended to read Amantes Amentes and have Acta est Fabula on the backburner if you *really* want porn.
The main thing beyond general scenario improvements is that Acta est Fabula/Amantes have extra routes.
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>>15680007
Doesn't it censor some of the gore as well though?
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>>15679607
Yeah, you're installing Also Sprach Zarathustra. Why?

Get the full Acta Est Fabula, apply the official patch, crack it by hex editing.

Alternatively just get Amantes Amentes from the get go.
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New

>>15680747
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>>15680734
>Why?
I just took the torrent with the most downloads that wasn't dead seeder wise.

>crack it by hex editing
I have no clue how that works but it sounds like something I should be able to do as someone not completely computer illiterate. I'll look into that, cheers mate.
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>>15680773
You should have checked if it's the full Acta Est Fabula or the addon version.
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>>15680814
This won't make me sound any less retarded, but all the different versions like Acta est Fabula, Amantes Amentes, the interview thing or what it is and then the Also Sprach Zarathustra added to the name seemingly at random made me give up on making sense out of them and just dive into the top one.

I have only myself to blame.
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>>15680842
I finally got it working with a different torrent, thanks for the explanations on the differences between each version.
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http://operationrainfall.com/2016/08/13/pr-sekai-project-otakon-2016/

Ugh...
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>>15678504
I thought Gears of Dragoon 2 was nice too. I enjoyed playing the game and i liked Ashley's song. Short sample from their website. http://www.arielwave.jp/lineup/gears2/mikazuki_short.mp3
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How do you read the h scenes if your parents are home?
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>>15682826
I tell them I'm going to be stroking my penis for the next hour and to please not disturb me, like a normal human being.
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>>15683116
Do normal people really say that to their parents? Somehow I don't believe this.
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>>15683138
How else would normal people play their Japanese porn games in peace?
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>>15683154
I don't know, that's why I asked in the first place. I don't feel comfortable talking to my parents about my penis though.
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>>15682826
Presumably behind a locked door and with headphones
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>>15683203
But what if they hear you fiddling with your penis?
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>>15683276
I put all my skill points growing up into Stealth Masturbation so that's not a problem for me.
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>>15683310
How do I go about doing that? When I jerk off I feel like my breathing is real loud especially when I get close to climaxing
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