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Wiki:
EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com
EN: http://en.kancollewiki.net
JP: http://wikiwiki.jp/kancolle/

Recent Updates: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Recent_Updates

KanColle STAFF Twitter: https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF

Anon's guide to KanColle: http://pastebin.com/ec862KsG

Air Superiority Calculator: http://aircalc.net

Fleet builder: http://kancolle-calc.net/deckbuilder.html

Combat Mechanics:
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EN: http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Combat

Fit guns for BBs:
Others: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/pixy_for_ever/blomaga/ar994724
Iowa: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14q3M_N9HXVC0g2Jp9gA42qkEChq0EeHKeWHn7Hrt1L8/edit#gid=961378818

Equipment upgrade values: http://i.imgur.com/1JfCOmJ.png

Useful Akashi upgrades table: http://akashi-list.me/

Drop and construction statistics:
http://kancolle-db.net/
http://db.kcwiki.moe/drop/
http://unlockacgweb.galstars.net/Kancollewiki/viewCreateShipLogList

Voices, sprites, furniture preview: http://www51.atpages.jp/kancollev

KanColle Viewer (JP): https://github.com/Grabacr07/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 1): https://github.com/Yuubari/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (EN 2): https://github.com/gakada/KanColleViewer
KanColle Viewer (KR): https://github.com/CirnoV/KanColleViewer
Electronic Observer (JP): https://github.com/andanteyk/ElectronicObserver
Electronic Observer (EN): https://github.com/RyuuKitsune/ElectronicObserver

PS Vita game: http://kancolle-vita.com
KanColle Arcade: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp
Official arcade gameplay demonstration: https://youtu.be/GAjOfoutg5s https://youtu.be/IPfFSo-hiWI https://youtu.be/LYlzkMGYtEA

KanColle Movie trailer: https://youtu.be/Puj4vB_Kh2E

News:
-The Android port has been implemented. The 250k lottery winners will be able to access it. In commemoration of this, Shiratsuyu has received a mobile phone seasonal sprite.
-100 new and returning Rainy Season lines have been implemented, along with new seasonal sprites for Hayashimo, Kiyoshimo, Akebono, Yuudachi Kai 2, Mizuho, Yuubari, Mogami, Chitose and Chiyoda, as well as returning sprites, and new and returning furniture.
-Shouhou's and Takanami's sprites on their Kai cards have been fixed.
-Quests have now been split into "Daily", "Weekly", "Monthly", "Once" and "Others" sections. There is also a section to view only active quests. You can still view all quests at a glance in the "All" section.
-Asashio will get her Kai 2 next maintenance.
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>>15398576
Cute private school trio.
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>>15398576
Am I the only one upset Asashio might get the same uniform as Kasumi and Ooshio?
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>>15398599
Yes, fag. The uniform is great.
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You won't regret marrying Kasumi.
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>>15398599
You should be playing Touken Ranbu.
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>>15398611
Why would I play Token Rambo?
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>In order to shorten the launching process and eliminate the need for time-consuming engine warm-ups, the Seirans were to be catapulted from a cold start. This necessitated heating the engine oil for each plane to approximately 60 °C (140 °F) in a separate chamber and pumping it, as well as hot water, through the engine just prior to launch while the planes were still in the hangar. In this way, the aircraft's engine would be at or near normal operating temperature immediately upon getting airborne. The idea was borrowed from the Germans who planned on using a similar launch method for the aircraft of their unfinished carrier Graf Zeppelin.
Cute, Shioi and Graf have something in common.
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>>15398591
But they aren't cute.
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>>15398614
Because you are a huge faggot.
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>>15398630
You're not cute.
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>>15398616
Too bad Graf is shit.
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>>15398630
Yes they are.
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>>15398599
Yes.
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>>15398616
Sounds like they are both shit.
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>>15398661
Well, neither of them got the chance to ever launch a single plane into an operation, but they're very cute, which is what really matters.
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>>15398630
This

Can't wait to send all three out on expeditions for the rest of their lives together.
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>>15398671
Well I do admit I want to have sex with Graf. I also want to fuck Kamo.
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>>15398658
Ichibaaan
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>>15398661
At least Graf has a nice body and Shioi is cute, Kamo can fuck off though.
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>>15398678
FULL
TIME
EXPEDITION SLUTS
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>>15398700
You're a shit.
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>>15398708
No you.
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Why do I get a D-rank when I send a sub fleet against a sub fleet? How can I fail if I successfully passed the enemy fleet without fighting them?
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>>15398715
Read the wiki.
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>>15398700
Don't be mean. Kamo is a perfectly cute shortstack.
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>>15398700
Watch your mouth.
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>>15398658
Kuma/Suzukaze/Akiducky where?
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>>15398757
Forget them, we need to see more heavy cruisers. Where's the rest of the Takao sisters?
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>>15398757
>Akiducky
Again?
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>>15398770
I only saw the one or two short gifs but no webm or other vid
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>>15398607
Can't regret doing something if I'll never do it
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>>15398774
I can't find a non-cam version of her joining the fleet,so I haven't done her yet.
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>Yamashiro and Tone
>Bismarck
Which one should I priorities in giving BPs to?
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>>15398803
Taigei
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>>15398803
The one you like the most.
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>>15398803
Yamashiro > Tone > Bismarck
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>>15398803
Yamashiro.
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>>15398803
Flip a coin for Yamashiro and Tone.
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>>15398805
Already kai2ed her

>>15398809
I like them all hence the indecisiveness.

>>15398812
>>15398813
>>15398821
Stat wise, I thought Bisko was must-have kai2 due to her effectiveness in night battles.

Well at least, according to the wikia that is.

Either way, I'll go for both Yamashiro and Tone. They're cuter than Bisko.
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>>15398825
Bisko Kai 2(zwei) is shit, she's only useful at drei(Kai3) which means 2 blueprints total.
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>>15398825
>Bisko
>must-have
lel

6 memedals and still no Bisko. Don't listen to wikia's shit advice.
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>>15398825
You need two blueprints for Bisko to be truly better than Bongos.
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>>15398825
>They're cuter than Bisko

WOT
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>>15398825
Next event will probably feature more installations which ignore the torp stat, so Biscuit can wait.
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>>15398837
Not if the sextuplet torp is any indication.
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>>15398843
Sextorp isn't as much of a gamechanger as land bases. Besides, we haven't completely purged Hawaii of abyssal presence yet.
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>>15398873
We are going to Panama though.
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6-4 last dance is impossible.
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>>15398890
git gud
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>>15398890
Post fleet and equipment. Also post total daihatsu/tanks/WG42/seaplane fighters count. Last dance is the easiest to plan for.
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>>15398881
How do you know?
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>>15398903
Because I know.
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>>15398901
Post your clear.
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>Got my fourth Souryuu from the 2-3 boss node
Glad all this sub leveling is paying off. Dreading the thought of leveling all of them though.
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>>15398915
Not bothering with 6-4 for the time being until I kai Pola for a second Ro.44.

It's the easiest to plan for because you know what to expect at the boss node (eg. 72+ fighter power needed for AS). Doesn't mean it isn't hard to clear. Well if you compare the initial fleets with the final ones, it's not that much harder than initial, for me at least, since I got 2/5 off the bar before the seaplane fighters buff and I still haven't once met a single 5 enemy boss configuration.

If you're running Kamo route either 3 seaplane fighters, or 2 seaplane fighters + 1 zuiun 12 each on CAV and BBV, will take care of your AS needs. If you're running 1 CL 3 DD fast fleet route then it's more or less the same as for chipping.
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>currently around 1.1K ranking points for rank <500 for my server
Is this normal?

I saw other servers with around 200 points for rank 200ish.

Fuck me.
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>>15398946
In other words you have nothing to present. Okay.
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>>15398946
I got no Kamo, but 4 WG42s, and 1 +8 Type 2 Tank and No Ro. 44 (Do have pola and zara unleveled). I actually managed to bring it down to Last Dance with 1CL(Yodo 2xWG42), 3 DD, 1FBB, 1 CAV, but I'm realizing that I actually need those Ro.44 now that I really am hurting with no AS. I think i'll hold off on trying to clear before I can at least get one Ro.44, maybe 2 from upgrading Zara's plane.
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>>15398960

Saiki and Hashirajima are massively inflated.
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>>15398960
>around 200 points for rank 200ish
That can't be true.
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>>15398960
>I saw other servers with around 200 points for rank 200ish.
Must be nice to live in your dream world.
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>>15398962
Post your clearing fleet then.
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\>>15398964
Why do you need seaplane fighters when you don't have Kamo? Fucking retard.
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>>15398979
Pastas can also carry seaplane fighters, you know that right?
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>>15398976
It doesn't matter. It's just ironic that you're giving advice when you can't even clear it.
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>>15398979
CAVs can carry them too.... why you gotta be so rude though...
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>>15398992
So it is better to not think about something you can't do, because you didn't/couldn't do it until now?
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>>15398983
And why would you equip it to pastas? You know that configuration plus sanshiki is terrible and only one SF can't let you have AS, right?
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>2 Reppuus for Reppuu (601 Air Group)
At this stage, it's not worth it? Due to proficiency right?
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>>15398901
Diferent anon here. I've got 5 regular Daihatsu, 1 type 89 daihatsu, 1 tank, 3 WG42, 2 Type 2 Seaplane fighters, and 2 Ro.44. I haven't tried to clear 6-4 yet though.
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>it's a Ri gives no fucks episode

I swear this happens at least once a day.
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>>15398964
>no Kamo
Well then you have no choice but to stick with the fleet you're currently using.

1 CL 3 DD: Stick with whatever you're using.
Fast BB: VV-class, Ro.44 + sanshiki
CAV: zuiun M12 + sanshiki

or

Fast BB: any, AP shell + sanshiki
CAV: Ro.44 + sanshiki

>>15398992
>can't
I can. I just don't feel like doing it right now. If you have a problem with that then suck it up.
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>>15398996
>....
Are you 12?
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>>15399006
Even 20 Reppuus for a Reppuu 601 is worth it.
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>>15399008
>2 Type 2 Seaplane fighters, and 2 Ro.44
Man you can totally farm 5-3 boss with this. Not even kidding.
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>>15399015
24, you fucking retard.
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>>15399023
Sorry, you don't seem to be one.
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>>15399000
1 seaplane fighter on pasta + zuiun 12 on CAV allows for AS on node C for final kill. Even just swapping the zuiun 12 for the seaplane fighter gets you air parity there. Even if you're so concerned with seaplane fighter + sanshiki being a bad setup, a seaplane fighter will still make things easier.

>>15399008
Do you have Kamo?
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Another day, another 6k fuel down the drain as I try crafting Nagato to no avail

Got her sister though
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>>15399015
>>15399032
>>>/a/
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>>15399037
>Do you have Kamo?
Yes.
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>>15399014
Original anon with no kamo here, thanks for the reply. That does seem like the best I can muster out in my current given situation. Looks like I'll be able to put my Roma to use.
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Is anyone else having problems going to poi statistics?
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>>15399046
I recommend you to go there instead or somewhere else with that kind of childish mindset you have.
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>>15398843
I don't think last month's ranking rewards are an indicator for Summer event, it's still too early. It is always the month before that hints it.
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>>15399055
I'd say that Roma is the best fast BB whether you put the seaplane fighter on her or not, due to her firepower. Though since you don't have Kamo it isn't going to be much easier for you.

Alternatively, since she drops in 6-4 you can try farming for her in nodes C, H or L.
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>>15399078
Your attitude and behaviour belong in /a/, not in here.
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>>15399037
>a seaplane fighter will still make things easier.
Except it doesn't. Sure you can make it easier for node c, but not the boss because having air parity alone don't make any difference, and it requires a decent roll to sink her. So yes, one seaplane fighter is a bad advice and a bad set-up.
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Mutsu is making me hemorrhage resources

What the fuck
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>>15399098
>behaviour
You're on 4chan, retard. You're free to do whatever you say or do. Try to lurk on some forums instead so that no one can hurt your feelings.
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>>15399050
Follow the reply chain from here:
http://arch.b4k.co/jp/thread/15341219/#15341994

Just saying it first, there's a suggestion to stuff 3 seaplane fighters on Kamo somewhere down the line.

>>15399107
So let me get this straight. Something that makes it easier for you to get to the boss, and also doesn't make the boss battle any easier or more difficult, is supposed to be a bad setup, according to you.
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>>15399114
Says the guy whose feelings were hurt by someone who he perceived to be acting like 12 years old.
>You're free to do whatever you say or do.
applies to him too.
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>>15399009
Ri is a sack of shit.
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>>15399115
No, you're not getting the point here. Just because it makes easier for you to get there doesn't mean you secure your boss kill. A half-assed set-up is the same as a battle you're bound to lose.
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How will kamo work in the arcade game? Will her model be carrying a giant Taitei-chan the whole time?
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>>15399147
Simple, she won't be in it.
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>>15399147
Sending out search planes is already a mechanic in game, I guess Taitei-chan would just be one with longer range?
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5-3 makes me want to sink ships girls.

Please notify the salt collection agency of an imminent flood.
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>>15399121
Why would my feelings get hurt when I see someone typing like a 12 year old? It doesn't apply to him when he can't even type his sentences properly and that makes him to stay out of this place. His comprehension also needs some work when we're talking about pastas equipping seaplane fighters, not CAVs, and I didn't even bother to point it out.
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>>15399143
And you're telling me that there's an even easier equipment setup he can use that doesn't involve seaplane fighters, with the fleet he has? Face it, no matter the equipment setup it's not going to be easy for someone without Kamo.

Maybe you can bring pasta BB with seaplane fighter + sanshiki and CAV holding sanshiki + WG42, but that's all I can think of.
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>>15399156
>It doesn't apply to him when he can't even type his sentences properly and that makes him to stay out of this place.
>and that makes him to stay out of this place
So it doesn't apply to you either.

>when we're talking about pastas equipping seaplane fighters, not CAVs
>>15398979 was talking about seaplane fighters in general.
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>>15399162
For starters, he shouldn't be a newfag without having kamo of all ships.His problem will be solved easily.
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>>15399182
I know that. But fact is he doesn't have her, so he has to plan around that. Obviously you can't use Kamo route without Kamo so he has to stick to the route he's currently using.
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>>15399147
I expect her to throw Taitei-chan as pic related.

Either that or she hangs on while Taitei-chan does her sweep, calling out "KAMOOOOO" whenever she spots the enemy. This will serve a triple function as a signal to notify friendlies, audible Psy Op against enemy morale, and diversion.
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>>15399266
The imagery of Taitei smacking full force into enemies with that grin on its face is kind of hilarious
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How does 2-5 south work
I've always just used 4 myoukou 2 tones
is south better?
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>>15399326
3 CVL 1 CL 2 DD
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>>15399326
4 DD 1 CL 1 CA
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>>15399326
how do you use 4 and 2 of the same ship
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>>15399326
4BB2CV
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Can Taigei work with seaplane fighters for airpower or are those plane slots really fake? I keep remembering as if Taigei does not launch ASW planes in battle.
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how do you deal with butthurt caused by rng? I feel like I'm rapidly running out of sanity points. I've been trying to get zuikaku for the last week but she won't appear. I tried doubling my sortie rate today, but out of 20 S ranks at 5-4 I only got 9 bongos and some other junk. at this rate I'm at a resource deficit too so I can't use surplus on lsc. I'm getting very frustrated and there's not enough downtime between sorties to play a different game or anything.
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>>15399341
Yes since she's dead weight, might as well put her and seaplane fighters to good use.
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>>15399152
Longer range would be an understatement, Taitei's 20 range would translate into a double or triple the distance covered?

I don't know how big the recon radius of Saiun is in arcade compared to Type 0 recons.
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>>15399350
wait until event time senpai.

I got 4 zuikaku dupes that I still haven't leveled.
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>>15399266
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>>15399356
Damn, Taigei doesn't send out gyros for ASW nor does she send out the seaplane fighters in opening phase.

I didn't get the AS/AS+ indicator while testing in pvp.
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>>15399363
I'm laughing hard
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>>15399364
But she does.
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>>15399361
I can't just take it easy because I want to try the next event on hard and almost the entire list of stuff I came up with to prepare relies on getting her now. I'm starting to feel desperate. I have 20k bauxite right now. I don't know if I should use it all on lsc now or try to build her normally or save it to keep doing 5-4.
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>>15399393
Maybe reconsider using potatoes?
Anyway, I got her once last month in 400th ranking runs.
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>>15399332
don't you know how to dupe units?
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>>15399266
Not sure what came over me
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How do I level ryuuhou? and slow cvl's in general
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How do I clear 5-3 without losing my sanity?

I need tips, this map is driving me up the wall and I haven't got a single transport kill yet.

>Hurr durr let's make this shit super hard and then compensate by letting them use support expeditions

>And then add three night-battle nodes in a row where support expeditions aren't able to support you.

Like seriously what the fuck.
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>>15399407
3-3 weekly + PvP is pretty good.
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>>15399408
do you have ooyodo
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>>15399408
4 subs
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Why is Iowa so expensive?
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>>15399423

I've tried it with 6 subs and they pretty much always get taiha'd in the first three nodes.
I don't imagine removing 2 of them would somehow make life any easier.
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>>15399424
A M E R I C A
M
E
R
I
C
A
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>>15399424
Battleships burn a lot of fuel when they go 33 knots.
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With airbases inevitably returning, I'm trying to future-proof my plane set by having more Skilled Type 21s. 3 should be fine, right?
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>>15399438
Is it me or did Haruna significantly get more attention in modeling her?
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>>15399400
no matter how you look at it I'm going to want iwamoto and reppu 601 in case there's double carrier princess again, and even if I don't use them for the event I want armored cranes for 4-5 and 5-5. I can't even start levelling ships because I wanted to do zuikaku at the same time.

>I got her once last month in 400th ranking runs.
so was everyone that was saying she was common rusing me with bad information?
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>>15399458

Depends on whether or not average range matters for bomber damage.
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>>15399417

Unfortunately I don't.
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>>15399462
I got her and Shoukaku back to back when I was farming rocket tubes for the daihatsu, ended up with 5 Zuikaku in 1 day and scrapped 4 Shoukaku because Zui has a lower remodel level and only needed 5 rocket tubes.
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>>15399458
Turns out you only need 3 T52 skilled if you have both Hien planes since land bombers have very good range, this is assuming range doesn't affect anything outside of being able to target nodes.
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>>15399445
4 subs + 2 lv1 dd's gives you higher chance to boss node and less chance of your subs taiha
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>>15399470
are you actually retarded? read the wiki
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>>15399461
Haruna deserves it
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>>15399470
Unremodeled abkm

Really
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>>15399484
>Hien planes
Are you talking about the interceptors? Do you get some kind of range bonus from using them because their range stats suck.
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>>15399471
how many runs did you do in one day? my fleet is sub-optimal so it's costing me 100 bauxite and 1.8 buckets per run. I'm not sure I can do more than 20 a day without having multiple fleets anyway, not to mention the sanity cost.
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>>15399462
Getting 1 in 400 is common enough for me, moreover, it's still the RNG in that determines your drops.
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>>15399470
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>15399438
Where the hell is Kirishima?
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>>15399470
Are you just bad at this game?
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>>15399470
>Am I really just no good?
:^)
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>>15399519
at my current rate 400 runs would cost me 40k bauxite and take me at least 20 days. I wonder if I would be better off just trying to build her.
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>>15399501
They get an AA bonus.
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>around 8 hours of playtime
>three full pages worth of destroyers
>not a single light cruiser
>can't unlock expeditions or a second fleet setup without one

Am I already on the wild ride
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>>15399645

It only gets worse
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>>15399645
Use a recipe for light cruisers.
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>>15399489

>Follows wiki's advice

>Gets told to read the wiki

thanks friend, sure am learning from the best here.

>>15399499

Why do you think I'm using her? If my Abukuma was remodeled already I'd be using someone else, at 70+ her evasion should be fine and I don't see how which 3-slot CL I use for ASW matters when I don't have Ooyodo.
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>>15399657
Did at no moment did you think an all light fleet with searchlight on multiple yasen nodes and a sub at the boss node was a bad idea at all? And the wiki told you this? You got trolled hard.
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>>15399657
nobody fucking told you to use a searchlight or under leveled ships
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>>15399645
Don't use that one. Use either the 2 fast BB/2CAV/2DD comp or the 3CLT/1CAV/2DD comp.

Also, the wiki is retarded because for that comp to work best, you would want flashlight on a high level flag DD and to stick a pasta gun on the CL with a DC/sonar combo. No plane on the remaining CL, stick a sonar in case the first one doesn't kill the sub. It would still require stupidly high luck, though.
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>>15399657
>If my Abukuma was remodeled already I'd be using someone else
??????
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>>15399695
>>15399657
Wrong quote. Oops.
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>>15399697

As in I'm still leveling her but she's not a priority at the moment, my goal at the moment is to get to 5-4 and farm shoukaku and CV/CVL levels.

the searchlight is to reduce enemy cut-ins which almost never miss anyways.

Regardless I'm just going to try 4 sparkled subs and 2 lvl1 DDs for a while.

I tried 2FBB,2CA,2DD and while they make it to the boss node 2-3 times as often, they also consume like 4-5 times as many resources.
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>>15399561
Both are poisons. Just pick one.
FYI, I got 3 Zuikaku from Taihou recipe.
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Will Kurogod deliver us a RJ swimsuit sprite this year?
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>>15399750
I hope it's Akitsu Maru, she really needs some sun.
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>>15399739
>I got 3 Zuikaku from Taihou recipe.
in how many attempts? according to kancolle-db zuikaku is 3.8% from 4000/2000/5000/5200 and 1.07% from 300/30/400/300. on the other hand it shows 1.09% from 5-4. this means if I want the highest bauxite efficiency I should do 5-4 until I run out of buckets and then do nomal construction. I don't know how long my patience will last though.
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>>15399787

The best way to get cranes is from 5-4, but farming 5-4 with the intention of getting any given ship and not just getting 500 copies of everything while ranking is pretty bad.
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>>15399795
5-4 is so frustrating. I don't want to bucket until orange, but then sometimes ri in the first node or wo in the second will send someone straight from yellow to red. I have 20% failure rate. the worst part is that I only have 20 minutes down time between sorties, so I can't even play another game. how do rank nerds not kill themselves?
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>>15399810
>how do rank nerds not kill themselves?

Well we do other stuff while doing the sorties like watching a movie.
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>>15399810
You can 5-4 while shitposting here, watching anime, masturbating, etc. Rankfags in the top 10 or so with ridiculous numbers are sharing accounts or botting.
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>>15399810

I'm using 5 married ships+leveling flag and I average like 0.5 buckets/run and I regularly sortie with half of them at chuuha.

Contrary to what memers on /jp/ will tell you, levels really do matter. Also put any ships with less than 68 armor, which is what Yodo has at any position but flagship.
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>>15399817

*don't put
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>>15399810
>I only have 20 minutes down time between sorties
What the hell does this even mean? Are you a normalfag?
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>>15399810
If you're frustrated, stop ranking.
Its clearly not for you.
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>>15399825

He's not ranking, he's just trying to get Zuikaku. Learn to read.
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>>15399825

He's not ranking, he's trying to get zuikaku.

Thankfully I got lucky and picked her up during the event so I only need to get shoukaku.

Which I guess means I'll probably get like 5 zuikakus before I get my shoukaku because RNG.
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>>15399832
I got Shoukaku and need to get zuikaku.
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Does leveling recon seaplanes provide actual bonuses, or is it only useful for getting seaplane fighters?
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>>15399817
I don't have any married ships so I'm just using what I have.

>>15399823
I do one sortie and then wait 20 minutes for morale to recover and akashi to repair 1hp before going again. it's not enough time to do anything but read through threads so I'm getting really worn out doing this 10-12 hours a day.
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I somehow lost my 38cm kai that was maxed out. Holy shit, I know 35.6 proto is upgradeable now but all those fucking lost screws.
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I've got 32 Zuikaku (46 Shoukaku) from 5-4 this year.
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>Mutsu isn't your girlfriend

Why even live?
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>>15399863
Don't use Akashi but if you can't wait for morale, make use of the fleet templates. It speeds up the number of runs you can do in a day but you spend way more resources because of the increased sorties you do.
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>>15399865
>somehow
How do you "somehow" lose something important?
Use the new equipment menu to see if you don't have it on some other ship you didn't think of checking.
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>>15399874
I don't think I have enough ships to run multiple fleets.
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>>15399787
Around 20 LSC to get 3 Zuikakus. That's why I told you to pick the poison. Every method burns your bauxite.
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>>15399880
This is why you use the fucking potato carriers. Goddamn you moron, why do a personal challenge you can't even handle?
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>>15399872
>Nagato isn't your girlfriend

Why even live?
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>>15399872
>>15399888
>wanting a snail as your girlfriend
>wanting some huge battle amazon as your girlfriend
No thanks.
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>>15399878
he put it on his iowa, sortied some place to get damaged art, then sunk her for the lolz
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>>15399890
Why do people call Mutsu snail?
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>>15399890
>Not wanting to see Nagato's fat ass and big tits bounce as you pound the life out of her

What are you fucking gay?
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>>15399895

Because her kanji includes the radical for snail or something.

similar reason to why people call the akizuki sisters "Ducky", since the correct romanji is "akidzuki" and somehow they went from "dzuki" to "ducky".
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>>15399895
She looks like one.
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>>15399899

>romanji

legitimately 100% triggered and foaming at the mouth right now
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>>15399896
Why not take Urakaze instead?
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>>15399902
No she doesn't
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>>15399899
>akidzuki

Another way of romanizing it is Akiduki (秋月)

>duki
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And this is why we hate romaji friends.
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>>15399904
This, she's even half her age and has 3 friends.
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>>15399868
1 every 67 sorties isn't making me feel very confident

>>15399887
I don't have yodo so my only 4 slot cruiser is yubari. suzuya and kumano got to level 94 while I was farming for yuu in the last event so I wanted to give them a break for a while. I was planning on levelling chikuma, but I wanted to level zuikaku at the same time.
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>>15399911
>Dating teenagers
>Not wanting an oneechan
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you see, KANcOLLE takes no skill! no skill! because, you can't wave dash, or lcancel
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>>15399955
>motor skills are the only skills that a game can have
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>>15399962
If a particularly stupid flowchart can do it, it doesn't take skill.
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>>15399955
>>15399964
>complaining that Waifu collector: The game doesn't take skill
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>>15399968
Kancolle is bad even on that front because you get new girls about every six years while every other DMM game adds new characters much more frequently.

But it's not like it demands your constant attention, so you can just play it in the background.
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>>15399964
You can flowchart melee if you were as good as a robot
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>>15399983
>because you get new girls about every six years
Do you even play the game or are you just here because you want to shitpost?
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>>15399906
>>15399908
Qiuyue
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>>15399986
Are you genuinely sperging over the "six years" thing or are you only pretending to be retarded?

Kancolle adds new girls more or less by the event, so you get a new batch of characters every season. There are a lot of other DMM games that have constant events and add 2-4 new characters every 2 weeks. This isn't even a comparison.
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>>15399995
>Are you genuinely sperging over the "six years" thing or are you only pretending to be retarded?
No, I simply asked if you were playing the game, because what you said in this regard is wrong. If you say something wrong, it is your fault.

>Kancolle adds new girls more or less by the event, so you get a new batch of characters every season. There are a lot of other DMM games that have constant events and add 2-4 new characters every 2 weeks. This isn't even a comparison.
And which games would that be? Don't tell me they are based on an already existing franchise and just bring out new versions of old characters or can just use characters which already exist.
Also, what does DMM have to do with this? DMM is only the game platform, each game still has its own developers and you should treat them as different games.
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>>15399988
caujyut
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>>15399895
Her headgear resembles a snail's eye things.
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>>15399995
Paid gacha makes them immediately inferior.
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>>15399983
>>15399995
>Kancolle
>small c

>>15399986
It's a form of exaggeration.

>>15400023
This.
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>>15399911
>half her age
70+ isn't half of 90+.
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>>15399995
>no idel time for leveling or general dicking around
>buying slots every 2 weeks
The horror. I like my comfy, casual and masochistic dice rolling machine, thank you very much.
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>>15400012
>And which games would that be? Don't tell me they are based on an already existing franchise and just bring out new versions of old characters or can just use characters which already exist.
Aigis, TABA, FKG, Kamihime Project, pretty much every card game. There are some games that are connected to existing franchises, like the Taimanin Asagi, Monster Hunter, Criminal Girls and Toushin Toshi spinoffs, but even these add new characters for the browser version.

In fact, constant events and an event every two weeks is more or less the standard for browser and phone games, because they thrive on keeping their users interested. I'm not saying Kancolle is an awful game, and >>15400023 is right about payments, but if you're just looking for cute girls to fawn over you're better off with other games.

>Also, what does DMM have to do with this? DMM is only the game platform, each game still has its own developers and you should treat them as different games.
DMM is the biggest browser game platform around, so it makes a good point of comparison.
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>>15400035
If you want to fawn over cute girls without wanting to get broke, because your cute girls are shackled to a glorified slot machine, it's the perfect game though. At least here you have the chance to collect them all and get your favorite without paying hundreds or thousands bucks for a mere chance.
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>>15399863
>I do one sortie and then wait 20 minutes for morale to recover and akashi to repair 1hp before going again
You're supposed to set an Akashi repair pre-set, start a 20 minute timer and switch back to that pre-set right before that 20 minutes runs out. If you're repairing ships that take 22 minutes for 2HP (Lv99 DD,CL,SSV etc) wait extra two minutes before triggering the repair so you repair 2HP instead of one.
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Someone asked about torpedo warheads last thread.

Long Lance had roughly 490 kg hexanite (60% sulfur-rich TNT, 40% HND) warhead. Hexanite's explosion releases 5.86 mJ/kg with 794 l/kg of products.
Mark 15 torpedo. had 375 kg torpex warhead(42% TNT, 40% RDX, 18% Al dust) Torpex's explosion releases 7,03 mJ/kg with 612 l/kg of products.

While Mark 15 is close(2636 mJ vs Long Lance's 2871 mJ) in energy released on detonation the explosion products(expanding gases) are obviously incomparable. Hydrodynamic shock from Long Lance's explosion would rupture the hull much more severely than Mark 15's explosion due to that.
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>>15399816
>Rankfags in the top 10 or so with ridiculous numbers are sharing accounts or botting.
Bitch nigga please, I made it to top6 without doing any of that.

(Then dropped to #12 because the gap with fifth place was too large even for me.)
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>>15400152
>>15399816
The guy with current record of 13k+ without final form back in March did it alone. He slept 5 hours a day and showered 2 times a week. Rest was running 5-4

If there are people who share account for ranking they are not in the majority for sure.
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>5-5
>Taihou taiha
>Taihou taiha
>Taihou taiha
>Taihou taiha

Every fucking month. I don't understand why.
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>>15400161
If you're not lying that's 10 sorties every wake hour for a whole month.

I'd love to see the bill for that, to say nothing of his SAN points.
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They should just stop making new K2s and just work on releasing 6-5 already.
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>>15400035
>Kancolle is an awful game, and >>15400023 is right about payments, but if you're just looking for cute girls to fawn over you're better off with other games.
Kancolle's major strengths are the voice acting and incredible amount of non-game support each character gets, whether it's appearances in official work or (and this has nothing to do with Kadokawa itself) the sheer amount of fan support.

If you are fan of other girls, you will get a new sprite and usable character, and some amount of fanart, but it's much easier to park on Kancolle and bask in a steady stream of, well, stuff.
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>>15400171
I vaguely remember him mentioning he earned about 28pts per hour at best (over long period of time). Running final form subs or 5CV north (with drop cut, exp cut and damecons) can get you 33+pts per hour.

I've been to top 5 before, and I can't really speak for others, but personally I would rather drop to top 20 or 100 than share an account with someone else. The game is about collecting so why would I share my collection with anyone else
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>>15400167
>5-5
>Taihou kills boss
>Taihou kills boss
>Taihou kills boss
>Taihou kills boss

Every fucking month. I don't understand why.
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>>15400184
Really, I think this is mostly due in part to the fact that it is based on actual warships. Those Japanese sure eat that shit up (who gets so obsessed about trains?)
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>>15400190
Don't bullshit me faggot.
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>>15400196
I'm not. In the past two months Taihou sank the boss at least 7 times.
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>>15399182
>>15399143
>>15399107
>>15399000
>>15398979
Wow, you're waste of space.
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>>15399363
>>15399406
These are amazing.
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>>15400204
Why do you lie on the internet?
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>>15400212
Seriously, I'm not. You should scrap your Taihou and LSC for a new one since she's jobbing so much.
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>>15399470
>2 CL
>not Kai Ni Abu
>CL flag
You're absolutely awful at this game. Read the wiki and think hard.

>>15399657
You didn't follow wiki though you lying shit. Wikia's >advice< is bad but it's impossible for them to suggest something as atrocious as your setup.
Keep in mind, nobody tells you to follow wiki's >advice<. People tell you to READ the wiki. Read the facts (enemy comps, branching rules, ship stats, mechanics) and think on your own how to create an effective fleet.
You're just an entitled moron who blames others for his own mistakes.

>>15399733
>the searchlight is to reduce enemy cut-ins which almost never miss anyways
Read the wiki, retard. You don't understand how searchlight or cut-ins work.

>subs
Kuso.
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>>15400186
>final form subs

I forgot you could do that.

But wouldn't he miss on 5-5 then?
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>>15400244
Clearing 5-5 takes time and resources. Especially in the past when it was cheaper to get 200 points on 5-4 than to clear 5-5. You could be using them for 5-4, not to mention ranking in general is much much easier thanks to final form.
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>>15400244
200pts is a drop in the bucket when you're gaining 5000pts a month just from 5-4. Majority of rankfags have cleared 5-4 though because having the option to only run subs is mind-numbingly boring
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>>15400253
>ドイッ
Cute.
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Hey guys, everyone knows the AACI setup for battleships is 2x main gun + T3 + AAFD

But is it okay to exchange that AAFD with a 10cm + AAFD? Or can only Destroyers do that?
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>>15400268
No because BBs can't equip them.
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>>15400268
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>>15400272
>>15400274
Thanks.
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>>15400190

Tae-hoe has got the same well deserved reputation of Kaga at being a taiha magnet.
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>>15400278
Fuck Bucky.
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>>15400285
bucky did nothing wrong
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>>15400285
Bucky a cute.
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>>15400285
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>>15400285
>>15400297
>>15400301
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>>15400268
There's no F in AA director
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Fuck retards like Bucket.
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>>15400322
Gimme buckets anon-chang.
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>>15400319
There's no director in 高射装置
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>>15398780
>Not using hoppo alpha
https://github.com/koshian2/HoppoAlpha
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>>15400305
I need to see higher quality MMD models for Tanaka.
For purposes.
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Does 1-5 get harder after you finish it?

If not, I keep getting critted on the first node, and I thought the last difficult change was at 80.
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I have so many Emergency Repair Personnel, where should i use it? I usually retreat when my ship got heavily damage.
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Every time Mogamin gets taiha'd, I call her a boy.
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>>15400438
Save for when you get sick of event's shit
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>>15400432
Bad luck. Bucket and reroll.
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>>15400438
Stress free 5-5.
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Which one of you memers is this?
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>>15400468
It's me m8
Do you like my Shoucucku?
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>>15400468
>idlecollefag
>no medals
>can't afford rings
that's /jp/ alright
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>>15400468
>200slotters kusofag
Embarrassing to be honest.
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>>15400483
Why would you marry Shoukaku?
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>>15400492
Why wouldn't you marry all your ships unless you were a poorfag or a memester?
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>>15400492
She won against NTR
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>>15400500
It's haram, anon.
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>>15400492
For love.
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>>15400500
Let's see your married Nenohi.
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>>15400510
Lets be fair I don't think many people ever get their Nenohi to 99 in the first place
>>
Where is that picture of a 155 Nenohi that isn't remodeled?
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>>15399424
Because American gluttony.
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>>15400514

But, who wouldn't?
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>>15400550
Is that Goya or Sazanami?
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>>15400351
Does it have the ability to send data to kancolledb?
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>>15400553
Braid.
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>last kill 5-5
>Re won't let me pass for the 10th time
Re please.
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>>15400553

anon please.
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>>15400557
Yes?

>>15400566
Looks closer to Sazanami, sorry for being confused in the first place.
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>>15400310
Fuck Bucky!
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>>15400571

Sazanami has twintails. That should be enough sign. Nenohi has a very distinct personality too.
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>>15400561
Re will let you pass now, enjoy the dead end though.
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>>15400577
Hairstyle can be changed, anon. Who is that Nenohi you mentioned?
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>>15400586
Read the wiki.
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>>15400586
Some irrelevant destroyer, don't worry about it.
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>>15400589
Oh, anon.

>>15400612
Okay, thank you.
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>>15400586

Someone you should certainly remember
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>>15400632
Looks like Yuno broke to another universe and killed Tenryuu, that's scary.
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>>15400554
http://kcvdb.jp/hoppoalpha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBpmoBQwFU8

I found a video about Chiyoda.
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I want to sexually harass ships.

Who is the best ship to sexually harass?
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>>15400672
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>>15400672
Kasumin
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>>15400672

Depends on what kind of reaction you want from the shipgirl being harrased.
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>>15400675
She's just a little girl!

>>15400677
Kasumi would have a nice reaction.

>>15400678
Surprised and embarrassed preferably.
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>>15400684

just surprised or terrified?
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>>15400691
Just surprised. I don't want to scare my ships.
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>>15400692

Isonami is a good choice. Shikinami if you want a bit of tsundere.
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>>15400695
What should I do if they want more?
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>>15400699

you should start tenderly loving then, since that's what they deserve the most.
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>>15400707
I'm kind of scared. My wife might kick my ass.
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Is grinding a dupe Hiryuu worth it, or just Souryuu for her equipment?
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>>15400716
I grinded three Souryuus and am grinding a second Hiryuu.

I believe in you.
>>
Fucking hell, the slider for quint is 7screws.
Do you guys just take the risk when you are doing +8 and +9?
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>>15400748
>use 7+ screws because you keep failing
>use only 7 screws because you succeed once.
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>>15400748

There are already a fuckton of ships who reach nightime cap with torpedo cutin already without having to invest so much screws on quints. Don't you have anything better to invest those screws on an attack that last event was made completely useless and will probably be made more restricted in thhe future just like CLTs have been banned from most end event maps?
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>>15400748
No. I have enough screws and I'm not risking Akashi throwing equipment away for nothing.
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>>15400650
Okay, I had fun messing around with it and this just smashed all my expectations. Thanks a lot.
>>
>>15400714
Maya doesn't actually have muscles.
>>
Only equipment that are truly worth the effort to max are the tank and super daihatsu because their upgrade effect is not squared. Sonar's torpedo evasion might also be the same but who knows
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>>15400761
Too bad Kasumi or Ooshio aren't that great character-wise. I'd rather luck boost Murasame, Kiyoshimo or Urakaze.
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>>15400776
Nigga what? They're in the top 6.
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>>15400773
I hope you aren't questioning Maya's strength.
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>>15400782
She's only average.
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>>15400778
He said character-wise, not statwise.
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>>15400778
>character-wise

??
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>>15400806
But Kasumin is great, Ooshio not so much.
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>>15400809
Kuzumi is only good for rape.
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>>15400815
That is a bad thing how?
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>>15400815
This is hot. She's hot.
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>>15400818
It isn't bad but she isn't someone you would like to use on sortie.
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>>15400815
Wow do not rape the Kasumin.
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>>15400815
>>15400818
>>15400821
>>15400822
Now what?
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>>15400828
Take responsibility.
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>>15400716
Yes but only if you do aerial support, which honestly is pretty situational.
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Is your Asashio ready?
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>>15400841
Mine is a different sort of ready.
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>>15400841
breddi much
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>>15400841
To be remodelled and forgotten? No, not yet.
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>>15400750
You assume that the failure rate is >50%.
Even if you do it twice, you still end up with a net positive 1screw.
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>>15400835
Congrats on your relationship.
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>>15400841
I think so.
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>>15400854

BASED SEGA WAS FAITHFUL TO HER SPRITE.
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>>15400854
Kai ni fucking when?!
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>>15400854
How does her hair stay like that?
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>>15400876
Boat magic.
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>>15400865
Why would it be changed?
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>>15400806
Are you saying Kasumin and Ooshio aren't in the top 6 character-wise?
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>>15400886

Look at fucking anime Atago. That was disgusting.
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>>15400815
It's not rape if she cums.
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>>15400888
Ooshio is for her cheery nature, Kasumi not so much.
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>>15400888
They aren't.
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>>15400841
Obviously.
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>>15400876
>How does her hair stay like that?
You're only scratching the surface of it
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>>15400806
Kasumin is easily #1 character wise with the update.
Name me one other boatgirl with a mustache? You can't
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>>15400898
Kasumin's mustache is a miracle of the universe.
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>>15400895
Nice.

>>15400897
Akebono~~~

>>15400898
>>15400902
Mustache Kasumin is so cute.
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>>15400898
Bismarck
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>>15400897
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>>15400898
How does Fujikawa do it? The fairies look so fucking good, even Ashigara is howling.
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>>15400908
It's not that funny, anon.
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>>15400911
awoo~
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>>15400913
>Her block of hair almost sideswipes the camera
It's fucking hilarious
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>>15400917
Mildly amusing at best.
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>>15400916
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Where did the Ashigara = wolf meme come from?
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>>15400914
Man, the remodel really softened her up. I can't wait to see what happens to Akebono.
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>>15400921
Not sure what you're trying to defend, but thanks for the laugh
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>>15400924
The brits called her a hungry wolf because of her poor living quarters.
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>>15400924
>meme
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>>15400924
You could try reading the wiki as a start.
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>>15400929
I'm not defending anything.
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>>15400931
I've never found any English newspaper that called Ashigara a Hungry Wolf.

I haven't actually looked that hard though, so maybe it is out there somewhere.
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>>15400888
They aren't even top20.
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>>15400943
Who are your top 5 faggot?
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>>15400841
Ready to be sent off for expeditions for the rest of her days? Yes.
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>>15400960
Top5 is not enough. But whatever, in alphabetical order, Akatsuki, Akizuki, Kiyoshimo, Murasame, Urakaze.
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>>15400972
>Murasame
Opinion discarded.
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>>15400973

Not even that guy but, are you, by any chance, gay?
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>>15400978
The only good Shitgure-class is Suzukaze.
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>>15400973
I didn't expect you would go for her, interesting choice.
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>>15400972
>likes a literal child but not someone who changed her ways for the better
Jesus.
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>>15400973
>Doesn't like hai hai
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>>15400985
>goes from utter shit to bearable
>suddenly it means I must love her
>I'm not allowed to like someone who's always been great
I'm afraid you might have brain problems.
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Your Nagara has been improved.
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>>15400978
Omar "Empty my 9 at the gloryhole line" "Holy war on the dance floor" "spray the gay away" mateen didn't get him, so I'm gonna assume
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>>15400768
Yes it is pretty based.
Any ranker should actually use it and besides it automatically logged you in using IE cookie setting and password/ID. There is no need to fiddle with multiple tab like KCV or ugly UI like KC3.
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>>15400985
Are you saying that liking young 2D girls is bad? Pedophile.
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>>15401000

I asume no english version.
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This thread is slowly becoming a replica of the /a/ thread
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>>15401008
Half the people who post here are from /a/ due to game talk being a bannable offense there.
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>>15401008
There isn't much to talk about, once the Kai 2 comes around, it will revolve around that for like a week or two and then everyone will forget about it and then back to this.
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>>15401008
What, not enough theorycrafting for you?
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>>15401008
It's way better direction than war crimes or burger butthurt. And I prefer some girl discussion with images instead of dead thread.
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>resources still recovering from trying to craft nagato
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>>15401014
I'd honestly prefer that to shitty reaction images and shitflinging over taste in ships.
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>>15401022
Ganbare anon. Farm 3-3. I'm doing my weeklies and trying to play but resources just refuse to go down.

>>15401027
Nobody forces you to fling shit. If you're unable to have civilized discussion, it's your problem.

You're free to post something to talk about, you know? I'm almost always up for theorycrafting but I feel like we already discussed everything.
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>>15401041
3-3 was kind to me this week, I got a Souryuu, Hiryuu, and Mutsu from it while doing the weekly.
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>>15401008
I don't know why I checked.
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>>15401027
Tbh lad I'd prefer if there was more willy waggling around here.
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Was 6-4 designed to be nearly impossible to clear?
On both sides the 3rd node just sends my ships back regardless of level, equipments or different set-ups.
Clearing the boss? Even reaching the final node feels like an achievement.
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>>15401109
It's the hardest map ever. Try to get AS on double Ru node.
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>>15401109
6-4 is much more accessible than it was used to be.
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>>15401109
Unless you're using some super retarded or gimped comp I don't see why you shouldn't be reaching the boss with at least close to ~50% rate. What's so hard about it now is the nearly unreachable AS requirement of some of the boss node enemy compositions and the amount of tanks/super daihatsu needed
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>>15401041
> I feel like we already discussed everything.
I'm writing a paper on using destroyers instead of subs for daily and weekly quests. I've been using following comps for years but but I still wonder if I missed something. Maybe you can extrapolate your onions. I have only 2 docks, never bucket destroyers, light cruisers, seaplane tenders, pretty much everything with less then 5 hours repair time. Goals not using subs and getting maximum amount of exp for destroyers.

transports
4DD 2-2 for 20/50 weekly quests. bucket usage: zero
3DD1CL2CA 5-3 retreating after transport node for daily quest. bucket usage: 1 per sortie on average

carriers
5DD1CVL 3-3 going north retreating after 3 Nu node for 20 weekly quest. bucket usage: 2 for full quest clear
6DD 5-4 south 3 drum route retreating after night battle node for daily quest. bucket usage: zero

subs
6DD 5-1. bucket usage: zero

world 4 12 boss nodes
4DD1CL1CVL 4-1. bucket usage: depends on how often CVL blows up, I had weeks where I spent zero buckets and weeks where I spent like 15. It's really random.
4DD2CV 4-2. bucket usage: depends on how often CV blows up yadda yadda, rarely to never use this comp unless I have to finish boss weekly and transport with carrier dailies at the same time.

world 3 5 bosses
4DD2CV 3-3. bucket usage: about 7 for full quest clear, depends on how often CV blows up.
3-5 gives more exp but you get magnitudes more destroyers to repair clogging up the docks, not worth it.

1-5 weekly
3DD Kamo. You only need A rank after all, bringing all that heavy stuff like BBVs and CLs after clearing is useless. bucket usage:none

For 4-4 quest 3DD1CA2CV. and for 5-2 quest 2DD1BB2CV1CVL but you can't stuff any more destroyers there so it's kinda moot to discuss that.
Speaking from experience you have enough time in 1 week to repair all the destroyers and other damaged ships in docks, I even had two days of spare time back when I started, only now when all destroyers I have but Mutsukies take nearly 6 hours to repair I occasionally don't have enough time.
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>>15401109
It's a lot easier now, especially after the buff to seaplane fighters. 2 seaplane fighters + 2 zuiun 12 (or 3 seaplane fighters) are generally enough for most situations.
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Well this is my fourth try at getting a useless hotel. Or was it my third?
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>>15401138
When do you rank?
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>>15401152
I just burned buckets, never aimed above top 500.
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>>15401148
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The community here is cancer. Everything is being swallowed by copypastas. The replies of every post is slowly degrading into a shitfesty circlejerk. Even this post
is going to end up as a copypasta, I guarantee it.
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>>15401177
Read the wiki.
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>>15401177
It's not our fault newfags decided to join after Iowa.
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>>15401190
Show your Shinden Kai, nerd
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>>15401175
What a shy girl.
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>>15401177

is that soooo?
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>>15401177

oops, wron pic.

I that sooo?
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>>15401177
Well the game itself is cancer to your life, so this is just business as usual.
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>>15401177
Fuck off nerd.
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>>15401177
Sounds like all of 4chan really.
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>>15401177
Welcome to memes.
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It's not really a big surprise that there's nothing to talk about between events. Sometimes I wish this general would get the SU or GoT treatment and go on hiatus until the next big update.
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>>15401177
I can't say I remember a point where the community here wasn't a shitfesty circlejerk.
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>>15401177
You're fucking retarded.
Kill yourself, faggot.
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Where's the arcade poster when you need him
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>>15401196
It's irrelevant as only elder gods have it. You should be asking for 2 Murata since that is more realistic and the point where a newfag will be at a significant disadvantage made even larger with land bombers and interceptors. Everything has been figured out up to 6-4 and has been extensively detailed and cataloged, there is practically no reason for people to still be left in the dark.
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>anyone who experienced IBS
>anyone whose played from 2013
>anyone who has Prinz
>anyone who has X ship girl
>anyone who has X tanakamedals
So where:s the borderline for oldfags and newfags now?
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>>15401389
Just set the border to every summer
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>>15401389
Anyone who has not experienced a summer event.
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>>15401389
I started with Kon and have been helping out IBS fags for more than a year already. It doesn't matter but I feel like Spring 2014 should work the best. I definitely don't feel I'm an oldfag.
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>>15401389
1 hard event and 2 medium events, or 2 hard events.
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>>15401409

I really can't imagine how they can fuck us up more than they did this spring. I'm hoping summer is a gomenasai event with easy spots to drop rare ships, maruyus and useful equips girls.
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>>15401435
Spring wasn't that hard. It was bugged and annoying. If we knew how things worked at the start, everyone would be done in a week.
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>>15401435
E6 copypasta, but Central will have 3000k HP now.
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>>15401389
When there is a gap separating a fleet's overall power, 2 Murata being the first time it happens land base planes being the most recently significant one. Easy and hard mode players were so separated fleet efficiency wise, I'm surprised the devs decided to go that route after the constant newfag pandering. Easy mode players have essentially gimped themselves. Being old or new is irrelevant as long as you know how the game works, the game is ruled by what equipment you have and it ultimately decides how smooth the sailing you will have with the increasingly complex and annoying events are getting.
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>>15401435
Just goes to show how incompetent these devs are. That gimmick was atrocious.
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>>15401444

It doesn't matter what it could have been but what it was, and it was a pile of bullshit almost from beginning to end.

Reminder:

- 16 hours mantainance
- bombers not working properly
- bomber damage not counting for internal health calc in enemies resulting in then attacking and targetable while sunk.
- air raids not happening
- Zuiun shenanigans causing catbombs.
- LB causing catbombs
- emergency mantainance
- Yuu fuck up
- Extremely low drop rates for the new ships
- Bombers still not working properly
- Zuiun shenanigans being the only viable strategy for E-6.
- Ships getting increased stats over their max upgradable stats with levels.
- Pola can't equip her own plane
- Another emergency mantainance.
- Devs finally give the debuff for E-6 conditions that were too cryptic for anyone to understand.
- E-7 keeps being a roulette.
- Iowa has fit penalty with her own guns.
- Event extended from 3 weeks to a whole month.
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>>15401389
Everyone is a newfag except you and everyone that started before you.
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>>15401459
>- Devs finally give the debuff for E-6 conditions that were too cryptic for anyone to understand.
W R O N G. How many times you have to be told. The debuff wasn't implemented properly in the first place and trying to trigger it caused a catbomb. People figured out the debuff after it was fixed and before devs tweeted its details
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>>15401465

And before the devs twited the conditions everyone had their own particular version of the debuff conditions, most of then not working because almost no one imagined that you had to S-rank an air node in another fucking map to trigger it properly.
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>>15401453
>newfag pandering
I understand wanting to reward long time players, but preventing anyone who came after X time period from being able to play your game to the fullest is just bad game design plain and simple.
As much as oldfags may hate it, you can't just have a 1 time deal and say "well, you weren't there when we gave it out, sorry, you're gonna have to work twice as hard to do the same thing as everyone else now". The newfags will just leave, along with the money they were going to spend.
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>>15401459
Yeah, I fully agree with that and made sure some of those points were in the list. I just don't want lurkers to think it was as difficult as previous two summers.
>debuff for E-6 conditions
You got that mixed up.

>>15401465
Wrong. Nobody knew about E5-I and almost nobody considered G.
Also, catbombs only happened AFTER first emergency maint.
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>>15401459
This game has such a wonderful future awaiting it. Even with all its success it will continue to have cool ideas on paper but looking like cheap shit in execution and bugs up the ass. Well done.
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>>15401479
Enjoy your land based planes as most event rewards from now on.
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>>15401459
you forgot the Iowa modernization bug. I didn't have her at the time, so I wasn't affected by it, but did they reset modernization if you got her up to the bugged max stats?
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As expected of American steel, she wouldn't go down before night.
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>>15401459
>- E-7 keeps being a roulette.
Someone didn't farm Egusa planes, you could even use torpedo bombers for the map.
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>>15401482
>Also, catbombs only happened AFTER first emergency maint.
The gimmick was added afterwards which was the real fuckup. First the gimmick was implemented, then trying to trigger it caused a catbomb, then it was fixed and people got the boss to say マサカ, then after that the devs tweeted its conditions. Most people S rank the air node without any effort so it wasn't a big deal.

The conditions known before the devs tweeted about it were:
~10 subs at A node
-1 S rank at L
-1 S rank at G
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I don't believe double Murata to be much of a deal breaker to be honest. And yeah, I don't have it because I was an inactive TTK from March 2015 to January 2016. Now, what I do believe it's a deal breaker is missing all the nice things that are given as hard level rewards that, one by one, which individually aren't that powerful but with time make stuff pretty easy.
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>>15401501
You can't expect people to farm dragons.

>>15401509
Yeah, everything is making a big deal out of it but I didn't feel much difference after obtaining both Murata.
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>>15401504
>The conditions known before the devs tweeted about it were

those were yours. Mine was:

- sink 14 subs
- sink 10 transports
- L node double S rank.
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>>15401504
It was always S rank A, L, G and farm a specific amount of ships on them.
The only condition which was not known was E5 I.
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>farming Hiryuus now for torpedo bombers

Kill me
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>>15401509
I agree, but it's intimidating coming in late to the party and seeing ships and a huge amount of equipment that people consider to be mandatory and you will not be able to get because you weren't there at the right time.
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>>15401513
> I didn't feel much difference after obtaining both Murata.
Because the difference is minor, circa 10 extra damage compared to RSK and some placebo stats that barely matter.
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Woah, she's so fast that I can't even see her!

Just another +1 AA fodder, wwww
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I want her to sink me!
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will this ever be available in human language?
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>>15401542
It already is.
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>>15401542
No, dog barks only.
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>>15401538
>a DD that's stronger than bb hime and Re

Why is this allowed?
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>>15401544
I must have lived under a rock then
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All I want is Bismarck.
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>>15401534
>placebo stats that barely matter
Every single time, this just last event proved accuracy is not placebo. The people who had the most trouble were the ones who used Suisei 12A, hell, even regular Suisei because of their neglect towards planes.
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>>15401551
You should stick to 1 recipe.
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>>15401509
> what I do believe it's a deal breaker is missing all the nice things that are given as hard level rewards that, one by one, which individually aren't that powerful but with time make stuff pretty easy.
Pre-land bombers only two pieces of equipment, J7W and WG42 respectively, were actually valuable event rewards. Rest was more or less fancy trash.
>>
wake up
sent home on 2nd node
sent home on first node

what a way to start the day
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>>15401563
Git gud.
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>>15401554
>The people who had the most trouble were the ones who used Suisei 12A

Source: Your ass
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>>15401148
>>15401175
tfw logged over 50 tries for Nagato at this point and only gotten Mutsu and Kirishima as worth fails
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>>15401563
Why do you get send back on 1-1?
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>>15401575
He must be one of those tryhards desperate for their proto 46s and T4 sonars
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>>15401571
Yeah man, all those people praying for /jp/ magic to make meme strikes happen definitely had the best equipment and were well prepared for this situation.
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>>15401593

Are you, by any chance, flatulent?
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>>15401551
>Suzuya
How
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>>15401593
>only got 1 shot meme strike once during prefinal

Thanks /jp/
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>>15401554
What? I had my third land base loaded with only Suisei 12A, and my Hard Last Dance was 5/6 over before the airstrikes ended.
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>>15401542
http://kancolle.gogames.me/
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>>15401613
That's just how unlucky I am, couldn't even get AA fodder.
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>>15401626
Why didn't you say so during the event?
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>>15401628
>they even ripped off the name
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>>15401639
no, this is small c Kancolle
no relation to KanColle
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>>15401634
I did. On the very last day of the event. I alt+tabbed to refresh the thread, and by the time I tabbed back to take the screenshot, I'd sunk everything but BB-Hime, whom Bismarck finished off with a single shot.
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>>15401645
Is small c the greatest meme ever
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>>15401654
I personally like this.
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>>15401652
Ah, that was the only day I didn't follow closely.
What were the other bases like?
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>>15401628
Rate my fleet on both cuteness and usefulness
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>>15401659
Shit, is spreading to the fairies too.

Quick, pick up the flamethrowers!
>>
Can't wait til Ooyodo gets a kai2 with seaplane fighter support for those 3-5 runs.
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>>15401654

You mean the most filtered post in this thread?
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>>15401138
I'm a submarine kind of person, but thank you for your input.
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>>15401669
ugly/10
shit/10
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>>15401669
>tfw screenshot makes it look like my bauxite and steel levels are <1k and I only have 2 dev mats
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>>15401669
3 out of 6 in cute
Usefulness depends on map
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>>15401669
>791x483
0/10

>>15401674
Hello wikia.
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>>15401669
Was about to berate you, but then I realized I've already temporarily married four of them.
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>>15401673
She should be able to use them now, the devs are limiting her intentionally instead of giving her the Zuiun now.
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>>15401669
Terrible cutewise.
Useful depends on map but you get -3 by default for unremodelled ships.
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>>15401669
2/6
It's shit
>>
Will Asashio break this streak of elite DDs we've been getting?
>>
>>15401682
What's the deal behind the temporary marriage anyway? Is Tanaka trying to pass a message that imaginary marriages are no good, or is he just saying that everything that has a beginning has an end?
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>>15401669

Shouhou/10

Keep developing that good taste anon.
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>>15401693
Well, the rings will only last until the game shuts down.
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>>15401681

>wikia
>small w
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>>15401663
x1 Hien 244, x1 Hien, x1 Reppuu, x1 Model 52 for Landbase 1
x1 Nonaka, x3 Type1 for Landbase 2
x4 Suisei 12A for Landbase 3.

I'm not sure which did most of the sinking, because I only saw the run for Boss Airstrike support, and by then, only Carrier Hime and BB-Hime were left..
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>>15401696
Who actually closes their KanColle tab though?
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>>15401669
Marry that Mutsu, anon.
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>>15401705
Thanks. I suppose you weren't rechevroning them?
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>>15401692
It'll be like this:

Random firepower/torpedo between 59/89 and 70/99
Obligatory ability to carry daihatsu and tanks, maybe only daihatsu for some reason.
Buffs to irrelevant stats like AA and ASW that nobody really cares about.
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>>15401177
The joke is that this post is itself copypasta.
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Is my quest bugged?
It won't let me turn it in.
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>>15401712
>marrying a succubus
Pump and dump, marriage is for cute girls.
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>>15401722
Go get more victories.
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>>15401722
You didn't complete it.
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>>15401692
Didn't Kawakaze already break it? Can't carry tanks, never hear her mentioned for elite.
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>>15401726
I got 2 extra, but that was all my PvP's
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>>15401694
when will she get k2?
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>>15401719
No. I didn't have the bauxite to re-chevron. It was do-or-die at this point. I had 735 or so Bauxite left after sparkling my escorts and carrier support.
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>>15401722
>Is my quest bugged?
Yes, somehow your text is in English.
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When will we be ably to marry Abyss girls?
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>>15401744
Never, abyssfag scum.
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>>15401745
Love this meme.
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>>15401723
>Not marrying a sexy, teasing onee-san.
I'll marry Mutsu over cute girls any day of the week.
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>>15401744
Maybe if they fix her problem with fit guns.
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>>15401574
I got Nagato from normal construction and Mutsu as a drop.
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>>15401719
>not just F5ing to avoid having to rechevron
Saved me a lot of hassle.
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>>15401744
Fuck off.
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>>15401729
Same yasen power as Shimakaze with more fp isn't bad. The sprite is shit though.
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>>15401745
what? DIE!
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>>15401748
Abyss are a fucking meme.
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>>15401761
>redit
So fixed on your memes that you even have to bypass the spam filter?
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>>15401532
As a newfag, it's not that bad. I lacked a lot of stuff, but I've trying to make do with what can be acquired and been doing ok.
I've learned to take vets saying something is easy with a grain of salt though. Won't be easy until I have a ton of superpowered gear and certain mandatory ships at Kai2.
It's kinda annoying to try to clear stuff on Hard because then I can't farm the drop ships without destroying my supplies, but I think I have everything I need now. Just need to train enough DDs so I can skirt around the shiplocking thing next time, hopefully.

Kills me that I'll never have the Shinden Kai and Yamato's tower radar. They might not be required, but they're sexy.
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remember when this thread was about game and girls?
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>>15401773
When has that changed?
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>>15401773
Nonsense anon, these threads have always been and always will be about the e-peen memes.
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>>15401777
it is now about memes are a meme are a meme are a meme
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>>15401773
I want saksen to come back.
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>>15401769
Few people will ever have the Shinden. I remember watching a jap streamer sink his max level Kaga with a Shinden in the summer event on accident. I cringed. There's an anon who occasionally posts in these threads who has an ID 001 Ooi who doesn't even have the Shinden.
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>>15401773
?
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>>15401773
It's always been and this won't change. It's just that some redditors and other trash became more common.
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>>15401692
She will be Ooishio tier. What Asashio and Ooshio did in Badung Strait is amazing, 2 lone destroyers driving off 10 enemy ships sinking and damaging them in process without getting damaged themselves. Funniest part is, if USN destroyers haven't run away the moment they were scratched everything would've turned out different.
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I'm the best boatgirl player on /jp/ ama
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>>15401773
It still is. People are just bored that there is nothing to do since the event is miles away and there's no elite DD to level up.
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>>15401692
She will be an expedition whore.
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I want to have lycoris hat!
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>>15401693
They didn't know what to call the system, so they settled on marriage (temp) as a joke. A lot of the early married lines weren't very romantic, and they were unused in the game files long before the system was implemented. When they leaked, the devs just said they were a part of their plan to break the level cap.
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>>15401815
News broke sometime later 2013, didn't it?
They honestly should've just gone for something like LIMITBREAK instead of maybe-you're-married-maybe-not-but-all-girls-love-you
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>>15401826
But marrying is cuter and makes for cute fanart and NTR stories.
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>>15401837
Only Shoucucku is for NTR.
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>>15401826
Thanks to it being marriage, they cleared themselves of p2w accusations.
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KC moving onto a bigger, better platform instead of the rudimentary gameplay of incessant tapping and consistently throwing time and resources at the enemy, when?
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>>15401875
Arcade.
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I want to quit this semen slurping game every time I don't get Taihou
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Day two of playing: I have received who I assume is the main character
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>>15401904
You need Fubuki.
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>>15401875
When the shitty company doesn't license the game to someone instead fund the outsource company themselves and ask them to make a good game instead of a P2W/P2P shit game.
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Let's do our best this week as well.
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>>15401891
I've essentially quit because I'm tired of this shit. Now I just log in to see if resources have regenerated, do LSC, go back to inactive because all I get is trash.
One day I'll run out of devkits and then I'll quit forever.
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>>15401904

Wow, Congratulation!

Be sure to give her your first ring DESS
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>>15401945
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>>15401908
>using fubushit
>ever
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>>15401960
I've nearly reached that point too and I haven't even really been playing long, started September last year. Only sortieing I do is x-5 each month and PVP (which I've also started to get lazy about because the only things I have left to level are useless trophy DDs), and I've started purposely doing shittier expeditions just because I can't even be assed to resend them every half hour. Game's just not even mildly entertaining anymore, just feels like a big chore.
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>>15401945
Deserving of a good rape.
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Rate my fleet /jp/
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>>15401945
>>15401997

>Pola's been in the game for less than two months
>already the best CA by far

Only Maya-sama even comes close.
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>>15401999
The game is a huge chore. It's exciting when you're rewarded for indulging in it, but when months go by and the game still refuses to give anything back, so much for motivation.
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Well I've been getting quite a bit of good aircrafts with Akagi as my FS and just dumb luck for the last two weeks like you guys suggested, but now I'm running out of space.

Is there any reason to keep default planes or easy to acquire ones like 21s?
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>>15402005
>>15402005
>>15402005
>>15402005
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>>15402024
Keep a number of T21s and T52s to do the Aircraft Conversion quests.
I would keep 4 T52s until you have replaced them all with (Skilled) variants of the T21 and T52, for future LBAS-related trips.
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>>15402024
Don't bother keeping anything that you can get from common level 1 carriers or craft in a few tries.
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>>15402011
Her hourlies are comedy fucking gold
Favorite ship of the year so far
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I have lost control of my life.
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>>15402011
What makes her so good? I never heard anything about her aside of being able to carry planes while not counting as a CAV.
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>>15402061
She's funny.
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>>15402061

Best lines and voice.

So drunk she gets a custom counter bar
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I want to get too drunk to fuck with Pola.
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>>15402072
Is having sex in a pile of vomit your fetish?
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Does 50 + 80 make Yuugumo's worth using?
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>>15402072
>Fuck with Pola
>Fuck Pola
Those are both fine options
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>>15402106
It depends if you like her or not.
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>>15402106
If you're a statfag, no.
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>>15402106
Yes compared to the non kai 2 ships.
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>>15402005
I'd love to be able to do that.

You fucked up #4.
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>>15401945
it's the middle of the week pola, where have you been
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>>15402144
Oh shit.

brb killing myself
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>>15402011

Bit by bit I'm getting close. Once I get her to lvl 99 I'm gonna run an accuracy test with her guns to determine once and for all if they are fit on her or not.
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>>15402188
What's the point when there's reason to use the guns on her in the first place?
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>>15402197
There might be if they're fit on her.
Obviously only in main fleet of Suijou.
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>>15402206

They need to be upgradeable to be worth it, the damage is too low without it even with a potential accuracy bonus.
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>>15402224
Nah, even if they were upgradeable and there was fit bonus they would lose to 20.3 (3) because they don't give yasen accuracy bonus.
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>>15402251
>they don't give yasen accuracy bonus

source?
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>>15402262
20.3 (2) and SKC don't give the bonus because they were introduced after yasen bonus was implemented. Guess when 203mm was introduced. Considering that there's no reason to believe 203 gives bonus until proven otherwise.

I didn't save the link to previous test of four CA guns (which was decisive because it included 20.3 (2) and SKC) but it was linked and talked about several times earlier this year.
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>>15402293
Wasn't that test debunked at some point?
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>>15402251
>>15402293

>there are still people who believe this

holy fucking shit
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>>15402299
I don't think so.
It could only be debunked by another test done later on.

My PvP experiences seem to agree, even two 20.3 (2) max miss a lot more than (3) +6 or even (3) unupgraded.
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>>15400238
>>15399697
>>15399695
>>15399686
>>15399676
>>15399553
>>15399547
>>15399529
>>15399499
>>15399489

Sorry for being a shitter and thanks for putting up with me yesterday friends.
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>>15402316
Grats.
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>>15402316
Sasuga Harunafags, always the natural retards.
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>>15402316
Critical thinking goes a long way but you seriously didn't need Iowa.
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>>15402349

Sure but she absorbed the cut-ins pretty well so if that saved even 1 or two of my runs then I'm happy with that.

My alternative FBB was Kirishima at level 75, still need to kai ni my other two Kongous.

>>15402342

Haruna has earned her respected position in my fleet, She's the one who brought me Iowa on my last run before I ran out of bauxite.
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>>15402378
Where's her spear?
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>>15402378
Her face looks weird, but at least her hair moves and is not super stiff.
>>
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>>15402342
Daijoubu.
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>>15402385
It also clips with her rigging.
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>>15402385
>her hair moves and is not super stiff
It's weird how they chose to make some of the models with hair made out of wire mesh or something.

I would suspect different priorities are set for different characters as to how much resource they're willing to spend developing them, based on popularity.
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>>15402435
Who do you think was the character with most effort put into?
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>>15399438
Thank you for sharing this. I can see my wife as if she was real. May you be blessed with many children.
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>>15402536
Haruna definitely >>15399438
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>>15402565
>wife
>singular
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I'm HQ lvl 105 and I don't have a single hotel...
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>>15402607
See the post from an hour ago.
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>>15402619
I got Yamato, my first LSC ship, at HQ 106, after 42 attempts.
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>>15402619
Join the club.
All I have is Bisko and 2 Akitsu Marus.
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>>15402635
>That feel when you have Taihoe and Yamato but no Akitsu Maru.
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>>15402619
I will never forget when Musashi came into my life. What a glorious day.
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>>15402641
Didn't get lucky last event, I guess?
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>>15402593
Sasuga Harunafags, infesting even the arcade staff with their bias.
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>>15402644
Me neither, she was my second ever LSC.
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>>15402644
I'm very fucking jealous
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>>15401138
I'd like to ask some questions if you don't mind.

If you had 4 docks, would you conceivably be able to able to do all the weeklies without any buckets? That's what I'm currently doing, but I use heavier fleets which tend to have a chance of knocking out dangerous targets if the CAs/CLs hit and I use subs to pass the 20x quests.

What was the highest amount of destroyers in your dock waiting list? I tend to keep some DDs either sparkled/waiting to be sparkled and I wonder if just trophies are enough.

How do you set up your DDs for 4-4? I use an extra BB instead of DD so I can let the DDs all be AACI and be useless at the boss node if the sub shows up since the rest of the fleet should be enough. Do you use ASW when bringing 3?
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>>15401669
I thought it was nice until I saw Laga.
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>>15402961
>Laga
Take your shitposting back to >>>/a/
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God tier taste, retarded name.
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>>15402983
Mochi is good, whoever that other ship is isn't.
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>>15402984
>hating on hatsuyuki
She's a good potato.
>>
What the fuck

Why do my ships keep getting taiha'd at 3-3i

This is fucking 3-2 all over again
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>>15402984
hatsuyuki is good porn
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>>15402727
Not him but I usually do 4-4 with my 4-2 fleet with small changes. ASW flag and AACI DD at the bottom. Remaining ships are 1BB, 1CA, 2CV
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My 5-4 (5CV1CAV) fleet is really struggling to get S ranks at boss node, should I drop my 2 contact planes for an bombers or switch to a comp that can actually yasen?
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>>15403083
>Five (5) CVs
>struggling with S rank
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>>15403083
>5CV for 5-4
People are competing for the dumbest post today.
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>>15403083
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>15403106

Just being a new fag I guess..
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>>15403103
Give me a few minutes and I will win that prize.
>>
How do I sortie my first fleet to expeditions?
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>>15403112
You are trying a bit too hard.
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>>15403129
Threaten them.
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>>15403164

Why is she so flat?
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>>15403164
What the hell was going on with the first part?
>>
>>15403164
That's a nice office.
Also can't wait to see RJ Kai and Kai2
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>>15403193
jazz hands
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>>15403164
Literally no boobs.
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>>15403164
>leaning in
I want to kiss her but I would probably hit my head off her hat.
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>>15403164
Why is she so perflat and best?
I miss my boats, but then I remember the >game.
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>>15403242
>the game

Fuck you
>>
Guys I have very important questions about sex

Which girl likes fingers up the ass the most?
Which girl likes getting armpit licked the most?
Which girl would cum from getting kissed?
>>
>>15403412
All (You)
>>
getting really tired of ranking here lads, wish I had joined an older server when I made my account
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>>15403485
Then don't faggot. Why do you want to spend 5-12 hours a day ranking for equipment you don't need?
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>>15403509

It's all about the thrill of not knowing whether you'll get something cool like a 51cm or something completely fucking worthless like a jet engine.
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>>15403485
Honestly, it's not any better.
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>>15403526

I have over 300 points more than the guy with the same rank on Iwagawa and I'm drowning in a sea of people getting 100+ points/day just for top 100.

Saiki is literally suffering.
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>>15403543
sorry but what's the ranking site?
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>>15403567

It says right in the image.
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>>15403587
If I knew how to speak moonrunes I wouldn't need to ask
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>>15403594
https://www.senka.me/
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>>15403509
Sometimes the unique equipment looks badass, whether it's useless or not. Just look at Keiun and Sextuple torpedo.
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>>15403604
Thanks
>>
another day of 5-4 and still no zuikaku. I'm taisho now, not that it does me any good.
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http://japangiving.jp/p/3982

Is this a donation to bring Kikuzuki back to life?
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>>15403664
Who?
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>>15403671
It's the white Mutsuki.
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>>15403646

What comp are you using?
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>>15403742
a shitty one that's costing me 100 bauxite a run with 20% failure rate. unremodelled amagi because I don't have a blueprint for her, unryu kai, 2 bongos, yubari, and rj k2.
>>
So when is the next maintenance anyway? I need Asashio K2 in my life.
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>>15403993
Read the wiki.
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>>15403993
I'm more excited about possibly getting in on the second wave of the Android beta.
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I wonder when the fourth bar furniture piece comes back. This is good enough for now though. Want to complete the set.
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>>15404036
that floor looks shit
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>>15404037
where's the crab?
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>>15404037
The crab!
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>>15404042
Here's another version I took earlier. I feel like the floor needs to be dark, but I don't have that many dark wood floors.
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>>15403963
>2 bongos
????
you'll regret this when your fast battleships are level 99 and your destroyers are level 80
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>>15404045

Indeed. First dissapointment I get from SEGA. They bothered giving Choujussenchihou-chan very cool animations yet they couldn't give Oboro her crab.
>>
>>15404045
>>15404057
>being this blind
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>>15404057

Nevermind, I'm blind. It's right there, Bless SEGA
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>>15404045
>>15404057

It's there in her fleet join animation you blind idiots.
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>>15404045
>>15404057
Wew lads
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>>15404074
sufficient, but not enough crab
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>>15404037
This gives me hope that they'll do a really cute Taitei chan.
Wouldn't even care if kamo ends up being a stick figure as long as they get Taitei right.
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>>15404106

The game will be shut down before they get around to implementing kamo.
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>>15404108
I can still dream you realist cunt
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>>15404050
Who DrunkColle right now?
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>>15404037
I've always wondered: what's up with the crab? Was the historical Oboro infested with crabs or something?
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When will I get to see Taigei's butt in 3D?
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>>15404157
No, but she has crabs.
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>>15404056
how do you use destroyers? some of my failed runs were caused my a carrier getting disabled and ending up with a rank on the boss node so I don't know if I can manage reducing my firepower too much. anyway my main destroyers are already level 85-90 so I'm not too worried about them.
>>
Any good recipe that combines 41 cm and AP shell chance?
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>>15404174
DD at top
yodo at bottom
fast bb 2nd
and 3 carriers 3rd, 4th and 5th
the battleship is just to enable 2nd shelling, it doesn't even need to hold items
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>>15404183
10/120/200/10
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>>15402727
> would you conceivably be able to able to do all the weeklies without any buckets?
Nope. Carriers take days to repair, there's simply no way around that.
> What was the highest amount of destroyers in your dock waiting list?
3 pages. Having 1 full page during early part of the week when you're doing quests is normal, destroyers will get damaged one way or another so you have to get used to it. You can repair some 9 full pages of destroyers(4 hour dock time each) per week with 2 docks. Obviously you never sortie yellow or even close to yellow, Akashi dispatching bandaids saves shitload of time. I switch in new destroyer at 24/30 HP usually, the risks of getting scratched to orange are just too high when HP is less. You can dramatically reduce dock load just by F5'ing at 4-1 battleship nodes, you get ~25 less ships pending for repairs and might finish the whole world 4 quest with no need to dock anyone at all.
> and I wonder if just trophies are enough.
Obviously yes, you need around 30 destroyers for comfortable play without waiting for repairs I'm doing all this with common 30/49/79 destroyers and mutsukies. Using elites is pointless because they already have very high level, wasting exp on them defeats the purpose.
> How do you set up your DDs for 4-4?
2 full ASW 1 AACI, double line at the boss.
> since the rest of the fleet should be enough.
Carriers carry the later maps, destroyers are there only to get exp and soak damage. Carriers are just incredibly stronk.
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>>15404193
how do you get s rank if one of your carriers gets disabled? my carriers can't kill the transport or battleships unless they crit. I've had runs where there are still 3 enemies left alive so I can't even get s rank with night battle.
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>>15404208
You need more ammo than steel just like with 46cm.
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>>15404037
was she added recently? haven't seen her in older videos.
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>>15404225
You are doing something very wrong, consider switching to a different game.
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>>15404225
you only need b rank?

Don't be retarded
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>>15404389
amagi has 122 attack power. gold ta has 96 armor. non-crit attack will do 55 damage at most. if one of your carriers is disabled or attacks destroyers instead of battleships it's entirely possible that you won't be able to get s rank.
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>>15404390
I'm not trying to rank. I need s rank for zuikaku to drop.
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>>15404443
There are easier and much more efficient ways to get Zuikaku.
>>
Is the android port going through maint right now? Cant access it.
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Kai San when? She needs an upgrade to be able to compete.
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>>15404390
>>15404452
Stop responding to the antipotato autist; that anon has been told how to get Zuikaku several times already and has been blogging about his progress every 3 ~ 6 hours.

>>15404225
>>15404443
Read the bloody wiki.
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>>15404473
>needs an upgrade

She and her sisters are the go to BBs for quests and 5-4. They got an accuracy buff with their guns too.
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>>15404473
Why? The kongous are all still reliable FBBs with reasonable consumption.
>>
>>15404225

- Remodel your carriers and fully modernize then.
- Get you good aircraft
- Don't rely that much in your CV and use surface ships as your main damage dealers.
>>
I don't know what's worse, the no potato guy or the Trident guy.
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>>15404484

>Why?

The MC needs to be #1, of course.
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>>15404479
>go to BBs for 5-4
>can't carry seaplane fighters
what
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>>15404056
>you'll regret this when your fast battleships are level 99
Last time I checked the max level was 155. Unlike DDs BBs suffer accuracy penalty from most of their guns but that penalty can be negated by leveling your BB, especially past marriage
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>>15404519

I think you're confused anon.
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>>15404519

Why would you need seaplane fighters for 5-4. And why would you bring Vittorio Venetos there?
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Couple of questions:

1. Can I get Bismarck using a Lv1 Z1 as my flagship, or moreso does Level even factor in at all aside from HQ Level?

2. How the fuck do I clear 3-2? I keep getting routed to Node D which then sends me straight north, which then wastes my fucking time.
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>>15404534

>1
Z1's level doesn't matter, she just needs to be flag. 5/6/7/3/20 is the best recipe.

>2
git gud
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>>15404534
1. Yes. No.
2. Read the wiki. Are you using 6DD or flagship CL + 5DD? If yes, just keep trying. If not, read the wiki.
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>>15404534
>Can I get Bismarck using a Lv1 Z1

Yes

> I keep getting routed to Node D

Keep trying, that's all you can do.
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>>15404542
>>15404543
>>15404544
Alright, I guess I'll give Bismarck a whirl eventually.

As for 3-2, fuck sake I'm running CL+5DD with what are my best DDs and this routings a bitch. Guess it's time to bash my head against the wall.

And I thought the actual game was going to be easy outside of events, Christ.
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>>15404550
3-2boss node is actually really easy so if you're having trouble getting Taiha'd at the pre-boss node you can just slap 1 damecon 2 guns on all your DDs. If you get B rank or better don't bother going to night battle.
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>>15404559
I'm hoping its not too hard once I get to actually try approaching the boss.
The top half of the map just loves me too much to let me even visit the bottom half.
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>>15404550
3-2 is still easy compared to some events.

Random routing can be frustrating, but it's more or less a staple of KanColle at this point. Consider 3-2 your somewhat gentle introduction to it.
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>>15404563
If you get routed to top just hit F5. There's no reason to do battles that have no merit in this game
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>>15404578
Isn't F5'ing a good way to eventually get yourself fucked in this game? I'd rather shit my bed than fuck up my account.
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>>15404508
Shouldn't they dole out buffs to Fubuki then?
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>>15404578
If he's still clearing 3-2, the experience is still probably useful.
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>>15404586

The occasional F5 is harmless, but if you make a habit of it you run the risk of getting banhammered.
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>>15404542
>3
Doesn't 3000 bauxite add CVs to the drop list and thus reduce his chances?
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>>15404586
If you mean by fucking up your luck and RNG, maybe. If you mean by getting penalized by the devs, then no.

I F5 a lot (maybe once every 20 minutes) and I don't really have confidence in my luck but I do know people who F5 more than me who still have stupidly good luck when it comes to compass, development and LSC
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>>15404594

3k is the limit for no CVs.
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Is there ever a good time to double line?
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>>15404649
Very rarely, when there's a troll sub and you need an S rank.
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Managed to beat 3-2, boss was a toss.

For 3-3, I see that I need at least 2 CV(L), so can I just go joke 4BB 2CV team and try making easy out of it?
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>>15404664
3-3 is the map where you want to do your world 3 weekly (5 boss wins). You'll want to use the lightest possible fleet (especially ammo consumption). 4BB is an overkill. You could try 3CVL+2CLT+BB(V)orCA(V). If you have Maya K2 use her.

To reduce ammo drain from whirlpools also equip a radar on 3 different ships. You have around 50% chance to reach the boss so with bad luck expect a lot of frustration. Good luck
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>>15404649

Allways when your ships reach daytime firepower cap easily because you could use the extra accuracy.

When you have to deal with PT imps.
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>>15404673
Thanks for all those details, guess I won't just run 4BB.

Could I run BB+2CLT+3CV(L), or is it more recommended to use CVL's since I'm assuming they consume less? I'm also assuming use Maya K2 instead of the BB.
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i really hope this mobile app doesn't turn out to be a foreigner trap because fuck its good
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>>15404649
5-1 monthly
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>>15404687
Is it good because it makes IdleKolle'ing easier, or is it actually a good port of the game?

The screens I've seen of it so far just make it look like it's got way too many issues to make anyone want to use it over the Netgame version.
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>>15404686
I'll take a bit of that advice back. If you use Maya K2 you should replace a CLT.
3CV(L), Maya or CLT, CLT, BB should be good.

BB is guaranteed to attack first., and the point of that composition is doing as much damage as possible with your opening and having someone that is almost guaranteed to sink its target in one shot.

If you don't have good planes yet (Ryuusei Kai or better and Reppuu or better) you should probably go with CV instead of CVL.
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>>15404701
I've got a couple Ryuusei Kai's, but only one Reppuu and a few Shinden Kai's.

I'll see how I go and if I've got major issues I'll try running more CV's.
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>>15404684
Is this extra accuracy thing for double line is real or tested ?

During my early 3-2 A 0 morale grind day i tried using both double line and line ahead, but line ahead seems giving my ship more accuracy.

Since then i only use double line for 4-3 boss 5-1 boss or pvp enemy with 1 sub
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>>15404706
I can't show you any data but I'm fairly certain it's a widely accepted fact. However it's mostly the abyssals who benefit from double line. I cry every time I see enemy in double line in 6-2 or 6-4. When enemy is in double line you can't count even on married ships evading anything
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>>15404706

against elite and regular enemies the difference isn't noticeable, you'll hit against those shitty mobs using either just fine. But against any of the new abyssals like Tsu, Ne, new model DDs or veri high level oldies like Ri Kai the difference is very noticeable.
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>>15404698
Not him but it's definitely usable.

Now I won't use it for event sorties but it does its job just fine.
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>>15404673
What is 3-5?
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>>15404732
That's only for end-game when you have the gear and levels though. I also do the weekly there but I don't recommend using Hayasui unless you really want to level her
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>>15404732
Need the coins for all this expensive furniture lately.
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She's coming back this summer, I can feel it in my bones.
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>>15404586
It's a stupid meme. Nobody on /jp/ has been banned for F5'ing before and a shit ton of people does it frequently.
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>>15404776
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>>15404793

Kancolle x Pacific Rim collab when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH_6iFYiryY
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How many T89 Daihatsu should I keep as they are without turning into the tank? I currently have 2 T89 and 2 tanks and I was planning on clearing 6-4 once I was done upgrading them
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>>15404949

Right now nothing is really certain about how useful daihatsus are or how the different versions and the WG interact with each other.
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>>15404812
Hoppou's kinda creepy in this.
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>>15404812
Shortly after Kancolle x Waterworld.
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>>15404977

Waterworld was a shit movie though.
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>>15405134
It was ok. For the amount of hype it had, it sure didn't deliver though.
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>>15405134
That's great because Kancolle is a shitty game.
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Why is she so scary?
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Help /jp/, I'm stupid and don't think I know how to prioritize stats and gear as a result.
For example, I'm looking at the Type 0 Observation Plane and the OS2U. Zero gives off one more point of AA and 3 more points of ASW, but here I'm not sure if ASW on battleships does anything at all (I read that sonars help ships evade torpedoes better, maybe Zero helps too?).
Meanwhile, OS2U gives one point of Evasion, but rest of the stats are inferior. I'd think Evasion as a whole is better than just torpedo defense (assuming the ASW stat even works in that way), but I'm not sure.
Lastly, Zero has 2% more chance to trigger a Artillery cut-in compared to the Recon Plane, but the wiki doesn't have data on the OS2U's additional chance, if any.

tl;dr - most equipment I can tell what's good to take, I just don't know what to do when a piece of gear shaves off said stats in exchange for evasion, armor and other stats not normally seen on that equipment.
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Uesaka Sumire finally got into Kancolle recently after 3 years. She says she's super into it but couldn't even clear E-1 of the event.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29060942

"Shipgirls and AT (Votoms) are pretty much the same thing!"
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>>15405621
When you have bombers always use the recon that has the highest LOS. Rest of the stats are largely irrelevant. ASW does nothing on BB and CA
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>>15405625
Sasuka Bukki
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>>15405625
>"Shipgirls and AT (Votoms) are pretty much the same thing!"
Interesting comparison, but I can see why.
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>>15405635
>Rest of the stats are largely irrelevant

No, accuracy is important to determine the opening air strike contact bonus.
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>>15405621
Both have the same LoS and accuracy and that's really the only thing that matters.
Yamato plane can be upgraded for more routing LoS though.
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>>15405625

Please God, let her stream her events live
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>>15405625
Her normal voice is amazingly soothing.
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>>15405621

Remember you can use recon planes on CLs too, which attack subs.
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>>15405687
Please tell me how it makes sense.
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>>15405621
All you need to remember is that Ro.43 is good on married BBs, OS2U is good on slow BBs and Shiun/Yamato plane for everybody else.
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>>15405742
Why?
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>>15405742
>Ro.43 is good on married BBs
What?
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>>15405742

9/10, made me recheck the stats.
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Shitter here, I'm almost to the point where I'll be able to clear 2-1 for the first time. I need some new ships, particularly Heavy Cruisers so I can unlock quest A12 and get my third fleet, but also something to replace my destroyers for regular farming - they're basically dead weight when none of the battles make it to the torpedo phase and my carriers/battleship all oneshot most enemies. However, I also know that 1-5 is a key farming map and requires a very specific equipment set. At this point in the game, what would be a better option for me: grinding 2-1 for ships that will better help me progress through the rest of world 2, or spending more resources trying to develop anti-sub weapons to get me to reliably clear 1-5?

Pic related is my team, I've only been playing for two days so while I am following along with the pastebin list of good ships to keep I'm mostly just taking what I'm given in terms of drops
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>>15405742
Ro.43 is good on everyone.
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>>15405780

Drops aren't worth it until 2-4, just focus on trying to get there.
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>>15405741
High mobility mecha grounded on reality, but on water. Less focus on super robot qualities.
>>
Seiran-san is such a precious SS.
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>>15405780
I find it really weird that people get good drops so early
I didn't even get my first battleship until I was stuck on 2-4 trying to beat it with CAs compared to other people who were cruising through world 1 with a nagato
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>>15405780
just PVP everyday, free exp so you can reach the later maps and get better drops.
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>>15405792
Truly the MVP of the rainy season sprites.
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>>15405870
it took me 5 or 6 days just to get sendai for my 3rd fleet. on the other hand I finally got my zuikaku after over 100 runs. I don't know if that's lucky or unlucky.
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>>15405986
Good. Now time to run 5-4 for a few thousand times more
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>>15405870
I got Taigei before Aoba. That was painful.
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>>15405986
Good now you can finally shut the fuck up and stop blogging your retarded adventures.
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>>15406090
Nah he'll find something else to cry about, maybe LSC.
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>>15405986
You were blogging for days straight and you only did over 100 runs?
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Is this game just a grindfest or is it actual fun?
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>>15406110
Both.
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>>15406110
It's fun when RNG goes your way.
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>>15406110
Do you enjoy organizing your inventory in games like Fallout or Oblivion? Do you like anime girls? If yes to both, play it.
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How does it feel to grind for day until you get your ship and then watch it sink?
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>>15406110
-Grind fest until you get all Kai Nis
-shitty part-time job until you're done with LSC
-mindless chore once the Kantaidex is full
-ranging from light fun to suicide-inducing ragefest during events.
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>>15406110
It's a fun timewaster if you like cute girls and managing stuff
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>>15406110
Its the Dark Souls of flash games.
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>>15406123
I do but I don't enjoy runes.
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>>15406110

It's in its core a grindfest. A huge autistic grindfest with lots of excel sheets and theorycrafting.
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>>15406126
Like playing Football Manager and selling players.
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>>15406110
It gets fun after 5 months
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>>15405986
>only 100
Retards who know nothing about probability should really stop whining.

This is more a general complaint rather than pointed at the stupid anti-potato blogtard, but people should stop recording their luck in dumb meaningless ways.
The number of days you farmed something or were stuck in LSC means nothing.
The number of runs you started means nothing.
The only thing that matters is actual discrete attempts at the drop, like number of LSC attempts or number of S ranks.
Number of days means fuck all when number of runs or craft attempts can be varied.
Number of runs means fuck all when S rank rate and retreat rate are varied.

You always see people whining about drop luck using stupid metrics like runs or days. They aren't actually unlucky, they just can't handle RNG.
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>>15406134
youll get past that fairly fast with wiki
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>>15406151
Actually, it stops being fun after 5 months.
The first 5 are great, you are discovering things, you're understanding how things work, you're getting new ships regularly.

Then you start an event. And you realize you have been left behind a long time ago in ways you can't even begin to imagine.

And then you stop getting new things, and only LSC is left outside of event-only drops. Nothing but suffering awaits from here on out.
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>>15406126
I assume it feels like shit.
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>>15406126
I wouldn't know, I've never sunk a ship.

Except that's a lie. Oh god, I'm sorry Maya.
Even if I rescued her again and trained her all the way to Kai2, losing her that one time will never fade.
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>>15405870
I was about to say I wasn't that lucky considering I used a Battleship recipe to get her, and even then I got one of the worst FBBs but then this happened after I tried the boss of 2-1 for the first time just now

>>15405809
>>15405871
I'm in the "actively playing the game" phase now instead of just checking in on it every once in a while so while PvP is helpful it's not nearly enough. That being said, I'll try to bee-line my way to 2-4 for the good drops.
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I really should go back and start stockpiling right now

Or rather play the game actually

I miss them but I'm so sorry
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>IJN Atago
>Launched 16 June 1930

>IJN Hibiki
> Launched 16 June 1932
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>>15406178
Quite the opposite for me. I remember my first 5 months, it was terrible with double digit buckets and devmats, progress is slow because you have to craft equipment which costs devmats, leveling ships is slow because of the constantly low resource count, ships you may want are event exclusive or just plain rare. When you finally get the ball rolling, you can get to work in making your favorites stronger, grind more efficiently, devmats stop being a problem and you can finally use your favorites in events without a hitch because you have everything you need.
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>>15406204
Puberty is a terrible thing
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>>15406204
>nobody cared about Nachi's birthday
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>>15406242
Who?
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>>15406159
kancolle-db shows 1.09% drop rate. that's 42% chance of getting one in 50 runs or 66% in 100. I was mainly frustrated because of the fact that the actual rates were much lower than I had been lead to believe.

>just get to 5-4 cranes drop like candy there
>I get like 10 every week
>I got 4 just yesterday

I'm quoting people in previous threads
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>>15406110
Its fun to talk about, not very fun to play, its a time sink, no more or less.
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>>15406255

People like to exagerate but yeah, 5-4 is the best place you have for getting both cranes.
>>
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>>15406255
Those people also do more than 100 runs per week and get more S-ranks because they don't use shit fleets.
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>>15406279
>people like Pola
Why?
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>>15406285

I've acumulated a thousand senka this 2 weeks and I've only gotten 2 Shoukaku and 2 Zuikaku this month.
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>>15406303
Cute drunkard that likes to take off her clothes.
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>>15406303
She and Italia are the only cute pastas.
It can't be helped.
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>>15406319
>forgetting Libeccio

How does being that wrong feel?
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>>15406325
Sexy, not cute.
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>>15406303
Because Pola and Zara are the only good pastas.
Libeccio is okay too.
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>>15406319
>Italia is cute
>Libeccio isn't

Really now?
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>>15406255
I've been getting like one per day lately and I'm a dirty sub-human with garbage S rate
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>>15406362

They tend to come in batches. I'm this anon >>15406304 and those 4 cranes came in 3 days. At the start of the month I got 6 fucking Mutsu, God bless 41cm double turrets, then it was one week and halve until I saw another one.
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>>15406377
Time based RNG confirmed.
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I should probably craft some more Abyssal Penetrating shells.
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>>15406383
She looks pretty cute here.
>>
>Got Z1 from the quest line 3 days ago
>Already got Z3 from doing daily construction
Thank you, RNG-sama. Now I'm all done with normal construction since you guys suggested 5-4 for Zuikaku, Shoukaku, Kumano, and Zuihou and they all came to me rather quickly.

Guess I should focus on rare drops and LSC.
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>>15406484
Are you serious? Out of all the girls she looks the least cute so far.
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>>15406494

Don't question it, Akagifags are rare enough as it is, a rare breed that needs protection.
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>>15406494
Yes.

Pretty cute for Akagi of course.
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>>15406494
I like Akagi. She is my favorite pearl harbor carrier.
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>>15406383
I love my Akagi, she brought me such rare planes and always gives me victory. But this is rather bland.
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>>15406255
>feeling entitled to whine at only 42% and 66%
That's why people call you retarded. Nothing is guaranteed with probability. You're as stupid as dumbfucks that flip a coin and then are outraged it didn't land on the side they wanted.
>>
Why are the cranes such shits?
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>>15406553
I understand probability perfectly. it took me 1040 s ranks to get my 3rd yuu in the last event. I was complaining because the rate was far lower than people were claiming. it's more like if you listened to people who claimed that they get coins to land on the edge all the time and then finding out that it's actually extremely rare.
>>
>>15406523
>>15406526
Kai Ni when?
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>>15406608
Good question. Given that the devs knows the popularity surrounding CarDiv1, what occasion would they use to bring K2s?
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>>15406207
Agree with everything you said. The first months were hell because of how excited I was to play all the time. I couldn't resist wanting to bucket everythig and sortie again.
I still have tons of fun and have tons of shit to collect 6 months in. I could see once you have nearly every ship level 90+ it might feel like there's nothing left to do but idle.
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>>15406800

Why idle when you can spend a significant portion of your lifespan grinding 5-4 repeatedly?
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>>15406800
Except being trapped by the pink jew.
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>>15406608
Never
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>>15405625
Sounds like Taihou, pretty soothing voice.
>>
So do I try to clear 6-4 now or wait till they implement airbase support for it?
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>>15406937
There wont be any airbase support for it.
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>>15405625
>voice of shitbuki
>cannot into Kancolle

This is oddly poetic for some reason.
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>>15406937
It's the air base you have to capture so you can use it on 6-5.
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>>15405859
>like VOTOMS

>they totally don't fight like ATs skating on water and instead shoot in tight formation, or they come to a dead stop before shooting

Yeah right.
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>>15405919
She really needs a gas mask, a bottle of vodka and an AK-47.
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>>15406334
Libeccio is LOUD, I can see why some people don't consider her cute.
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>>15405625
>Tried starting very early, couldn't make it intto the lottery, made it into Hashirajima 3 years later
>Started looking for music to listen to while playing KC, settled for Megadeth
>Gets recommended "Tetsu no Lulluby" from Votoms. "Then the girl'll have no choice but to get heavily damaged!"

Attagirl.
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>>15406797
Midway 2, soon and months away wwwwww
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Oh no, Shigure is heavily damaged.
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>>15407046
Quick, remove her pantsu and perform first aid techniques on her.
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>>15407046
Cutest DD
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>>15407046
Stop getting hit, dummy.
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>>15407046
> ->Advance
> Retreat
Ding
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Robert_L._Barnes_(AO-14)
When
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>>15407079
Kuso
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>>15407084
Why would you want a Hayasui that can't even attack?
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Shigure is old and busted, posting new hotness.
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>>15407084
There are still Nip Oilers left to be implemented.
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>>15407096
Shitgure deserves it for getting her fleet sunk.
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>>15407101
Kawakaze is new and busted.
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>>15407096
>Assuming that her extra hole hasn't been drilled and placed a goddess inside her
Pleb
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>>15407108
Those turrets are rather cute
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>>15407108
Sweet, she even gets the random electricity from her eye.
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>>15407107
>Using damecons
Really, pleb?
>>
>>15407108

>my little cyborg
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>>15407108
Are they going to pomf on the bed?
>>
Am I the only one who sexualizes Umikaze hard? I like to pretend she comes back from a 5 hour expedition and I just fuck her immediately as she comes in my office to report.
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>>15407108
If only it was her Kai 2 look, would look much better.
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>>15407133

You're the only person who remembers Umikaze even exists.
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>>15407133
I do that to Harusame.
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>>15407133
Umiwho?
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>>15407126
Who said anything about damecons?
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>>15407084
I would rather have Akashi's mother.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Medusa_(AR-1)
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>>15407146
The one Shiratsuyu even more unpopular than Suzukaze.
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>>15407133
Who? Do you mean Urakaze?
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>>15407205
You could just say division 17 in general. They were made for breeding.
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>>15407206

Nobody would ever touch Tanikaze
>>
How rough is 6-4? It doesn't even seem like it's worth it unless you have nothing else to do.
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>>15407210
Yes I would.
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Is there something I'm not getting here?
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>>15407227
Try it and find out. And yes there's no point right now.
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>>15407227
You'll want to max out all your tanks before going there
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>>15407241
A cg image
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is operation a-go > operation ro-go the worst thing in the game? I don't know what I hate more about it, the fact that it takes forever, that it's set up so you can't do them both at the same time, or that you're expected to do it every week.
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>>15407046
>>15407053
>>15407073

Excellent taste, Shigubros
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>>15407318
World 4 weekly is worse.
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>>15407318
If you don't sparkle your ships, yeah it would be annoying.
But you are a good teitoku and sparkle all of your ships, right?
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>>15407241
You missed out on the Super Secret Classified Up the Wazoo Tenrooi
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>>15407333
I haven't calculated it exactly, but I feel like the time you spend sparkling + repairing is more than what you gain in bonus resources.
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>>15407353
Then you feel very wrong.
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>>15407227
You'll regret saying that whenever 6-5 releases and it happens on the last week of the month just like it was for 4-5.
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>>15407353

It's not.
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>>15407353
>repairing
Do you go taiha when sparkling?
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>>15407353
>repairing
What the fuck?
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>>15407370
I don't even do 5-5 :^)
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>>15407352
The what now?
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>>15407353
You're not supposed to use Yamatos for sparkling.
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>>15407353
Sparkling a DD is maybe 100/100 apiece, maybe 25 fuel for repairs on top of that. You need at least 4 for 21 and TE, so 500/400 investment.

From that you get ~20 runs. For fuel TE, the delta is about 250 fuel a run. 5000 extra fuel.

This is just back of the envelope calcs, but you get the gist.
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>>15407394
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>>15407402
>Sparkling a DD is maybe 100/100 apiece,
Each DD costs you 5 fuel and a maximum of 8 ammo per sparkle run. You need 3 sparkle runs for 85 morale. That is 15 fuel and 24 ammo.
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Wh-Whatever! I was going to bucket all 6 of them after this run anyway!
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>>15407426
>sortieing chuuha'd ships meme

you deserve
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>>15407429
They were all at full health.
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>>15407416
Again, back of the envelope. Couldn't remember whether it was something like 10/10 or 25/25.
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>>15407429
Cranes can still do well at medium.
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>>15407402
>100/100

Not even close, it's less than 20 for Mutsukis, slightly more ammo if you're using normal DDs.
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>>15407429

Being able to sortie at chuuha is the entire reason to use cranes+taihou.
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>>15407429
I sortie with most if not all ships at chuuha all the time and I've never lost at the boss node with surface fleet.
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>>15407443
The reason for armored is to keep fighting at chuuha, not to sortie in a gimped state.
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>>15407461
No, the reason is to sortie them at chuuha.
Don't tell me you don't sortie them at chuuha during events?
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>>15407461

No, it's to save buckets. Otherwise you would just use 3 Unryuus and be done with it.
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>>15407402
I sparkle at 1-5.
It is only 9/9 for 70+ morale.
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Is it worth leveling any ship beyond level 95 for the few extra points in the misc stats? I've been passively leveling Mutsu but I'd rather save all those resources for something else instead of getting 2 extra points of LoS and evasion.
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>>15407508
You get everyone to 99 so you can marry them.
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>>15407402
how do you get 20 runs? it's supposed to be -3 for every expedition so it should be only 12.

>>15407416
>>15407439
that's not counting dummy ships though. if you're doing it solo you'll have even longer repair times. maybe 240 fuel to sparkle 4 ships, and then 200 more from opportunity cost. so you get 460 more fuel per day from expedition 5.
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Am I part of the cool kids now?
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>>15407517
>that's not counting dummy ships though.
Why the fuck would you refuel dummy ships?

>if you're doing it solo you'll have even longer repair times
You literally just said dummy ships, are you retarded or just pretending to be?
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>>15407517
Oops. Used -2.
But still, do you people understand how back of the envelope calculations work? I got the order of magnitude of the return on investment correct.
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Full sparkled fleet is a nice feel isn't it /jp/?
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>>15407517
>that's not counting dummy ships though
>refueling decoys
You get enough DDs just by sparkling and dailies to not refuel them.
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>>15407522
Fill at least a page with those and you will be.
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Why is her head so big?
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>>15407526
>Why the fuck would you refuel dummy ships?
I don't have enough slots to keep a bunch of ships just for sparkling so I use lower level trophy ships that I have sitting around. you can't sortie ships without fuel so I have to resupply them eventually.
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>>15407551
You have too many DDs.
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>>15407549
>tfw level 40 and still don't have Hamakaze even though she was the first ship I really wanted
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>>15407557
I hope you enjoy 2-2.
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>>15407557

Don't worry anon, she drops from 5-4.
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>>15407551
You need 6 slots for level 1 DDs.
Either buy slots or stop your retarded attitude of trying to collect every ship, because you can't keep every single ship with 100 slots, retard.

Why are people like you even posting on discussions like this?
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>>15407555
I have 30. I can get rid of 4 after I finish using them for quests. since you need 13 for expeditions and another 12-13 for events I wouldn't want to go below 26 anyway.
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Genuinely curious how the RN girls' take on Kongou will be like
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>>15407508
You can't marry a level 95 ship.
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>>15407551
Well that's your problem only.
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>>15407573
You have 30 but don't have enough spare slots for fodder DDs? You have too many of one class, maybe CLs or subs.
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>>15407551
Here, I did the calculations. I rarely get more than shouha when sparkling alone, even with mutsukis, so dummies are unneeded and unaccounted for.
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>>15407557
>level 40
I only got her when I was 99. Have fun.
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>>15407512
>>15407583
But I don't want to marry Mutsu.
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>>15407617
What's the point in playing a game with cute girls when you're gay?
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Why is Chiyoda hiding in the corner?
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>>15407605
Oops, messed up calcs slightly and forgot assumptions.
Assumptions:
1) Full daihatsu.
2) Average repair cost of 25 fuel after 3 sorties.
3) Per sortie cost is 5/8. Ends with at least 82 morale (11 runs) after 3 sorties.
4) No meatshields.
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>>15407627
Cum stains are very noticeable on pink carpet.
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>>15407627
I want to believe there's a version of this sprite without the umbrella blocking things.
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>>15407653
Butt there is?
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>>15407659
My boner thanks you, anon.
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現在「艦これ」運営鎮守府バンプレストさんの連合艦隊で、横須賀の地に【酒保 伊良湖】の設営準備を進めています。昼は「甘味処伊良湖」、夜は「伊良湖食堂」を併設標準装備。甘味やお食事、夜はお酒も愉しめます。オリジナルのお土産もご用意して、今夏開店予定!続報をお待ちください。
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>>15407669
>"sweet punished irako"
lewd.
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>>15407580
>Grandma!
or >Older sister! in the case of Hood.
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>>15407659
Just want to take my hands and grab those ass melons
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>>15407625
Nothing wrong with not wanting to marry a bewitching succubus. Perhaps he prefers purer ships?
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>>15407710
Kongou isn't that old, she was born in the late 30s.
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>>15407634
I don't get where those numbers are coming from. 160 fuel to sparkle 4 ships + 200 opportunity cost. you don't have enough time to do 11 expeditions a day if you want to be able to do the good overnight ones, so expedition 5 should be giving you 1000 extra fuel, or 640 net gain.
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>>15407769
1913 was when she was commissioned, anon.
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>>15407769
Stop lying about your age Kongou.
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>>15407786
No, that Kongou was scrapped. The truth is it just wasn't possible to remodel the old Kongous without it being excessively expensive, so what they did was hide the truth so as to avoid international attention. In reality they built brand new battleships based on the blueprints of the original Kongous and claimed that they were just modernized versions of the old battlecruisers. The scrap metal was also used to build Yamato.
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>people actually resupply throwaway ships and factor in "opportunity costs" for sparkles

How much more stupid can you get?
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>>15407804
They just want to justify being too lazy to sparkle.
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>>15407773
wait I made a mistake. expedition 36 takes 9 hours so you have 15 hours to do expeditions in a day. that's exactly enough time to do expedition 5 10 times. without sparkling that would give you 2000 goss fuel income. with sparkling you would only have time to do it 9 times, so 2700 gross income. the difference is 700 fuel, minus 160 fuel spent of sparkling and repairing your ships, so 540 total difference.
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>>15407797
Well they sure failed hard at building them considering all of them got wrecked. Especially Kirishima.
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Will AP Shell ever be nerfed? The damn thing dominates too much.
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>>15407892
No.
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>>15407892
Tanaka never nerfs our ship/equip instead he will buff our enemy
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>>15407812
Why the fuck would you have less expeditions if you're sparkling? Anyone who sparkles expeditions and isn't retarded will have sparkled ships ready to swap in.
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These days of emptiness and nothing new feel so long it almost makes me want mochi/sanma minievents back.
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>>15407951
No.
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>>15407929
I don't have spare expedition ships. I would have to use my shigures and akatsukis.
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>>15407951

Only if there's no overfishing and it drops from 5-4.
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>>15407953
Yes.
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I sank 15 boats, but I finally cleared 1-4!
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>>15407973
Adorable bitch
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>>15407915
They nerfed CLTs though.
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>>15407659
Is this a shoop?

What about the Chitose sprite?
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>>15408058
>Is this a shoop?
Of course not.
>What about the Chitose sprite?
What about it?
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>>15408063
>What about it?

Post a see through umbrella version of Chitose's
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How fast do you guy level your ships? I got kawakaze from 50 to 75 but it took 4 hours today and 4 hours yesterday. I feel like I'm being slow but I'm not sure. I'm too lazy to setup different fleets so I just wait for morale recovery.
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>>15407973
she's so ANGRY
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>>15408069
Why the fuck would you want to see a see through version of Chitose?
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>>15408073
The fastest I ever lived a ship was Kasumi I think, from like below level 10 to to 75 in a day. That was done at 4-3 and I often used buckets to restore morale. It wasn't kind on my buckets but it worked in the end.

Went so fast I think I got marked as a bot, as I got catbombed a lot the next day.
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>>15407973
Help, I'm falling in love with Kasumi.
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>>15408104
Rape her!
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>>15408078
Why the fuck not

Chitose is cute
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>>15408104
>Falling in love with Kasumin
She is only good for rape.
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>>15408106
>>15408110
Is this a new meme?
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>>15408109
Did you even look at her sprite?
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>>15408025
They didnt directly nerf CLT stats, only routing on some shitty maps
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>>15408121
Of course I have

I purposefully taiha her just to look at it
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>>15408135
Okay, and what would you get out of being able to see through the umbrella?
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>>15408073
that sounds pretty fast. were you using the f5 cheat?
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>>15408115
How can you look at Kasumi and not think she is for rape?
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>>15408144
who the fuck is standing behind her
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>>15408166
No one, it is a shitty shadow from her own head.
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>>15408147
no I was just running 4-3. Hitting J every single run helped boost my exp a little.
>>15408091
That's pretty fast. I remember grinding Bismarck in a day with 3-2A grind since it's so easy don't have to worry about morale.
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Is Ise better than Hyuuga?
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>>15408207
Does Mogami have a dick?
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>>15408210
Depends on her artist
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>>15408207
If only they looked that good in game. I want to squeeze those melons.
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>>15408207

The most underappreciated girls in the game by far.
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>>15408233
>>15408217
>>15408210
I'm talking about stats and ability btw

Not looks

Ise is way prettier than Hyuuga
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>>15408129
CLTs got nerfed their resource consumption badly in 2014.
Only visible nerf in KanColle history.
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>>15408236

Ise is cuter because she has a ponytail, but Hyuuga has a better personality.
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>>15408243
There was Mizuho change to slow, some would call that a nerf.
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>>15408236
Why don't you look at their stats then and realize they're both the same?
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>>15408249
That was more like a fix.
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>>15408243

>Mizuho nerfed to slow speed
>fit guns nerfed bongo damage
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>>15408250
Because sometimes, ships with the same stats can be completely different

I had a Ryuujou with the same stats as a Hiyou, but Hiyou carried and all Ryuujou did was get taiha'd every node
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>>15408253
>>Mizuho nerfed to slow speed
Well she was in real life.
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>>15408258
RJ and Hiyou do not have the same stats.
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American titties.
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>>15408253
All BBs who used to bring 46cm got affected.
It's not direct nerf to the ships.
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Just got Kumano

S-she's useful r-right?
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Who's going to buy this?
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>>15408279
In last event, YES.
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>>15408258
No, they can't. And Hiyou and RJ are very different. You probably didn't even have them fully remodelled and modernized.
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>>15408279
She gets the job done and besides you need all 6 CAVs anyways.
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>>15408279
Yes she is cute. Therefore useful.
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>>15408282
I can't because I promised myself that I'd only buy figures once each of my 6 waifus had one.

So far it's 0/6.
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>>15408282

Maybe if it weren't outrageously expensive.

>12990 for a 1/8

nope
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>>15408279
No. She sucks compared to the other CAVs.

But if last event is any indication you'll need her anyway.
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>>15408279

Mogami class are all horrible but you need all 6 CAVs anyway, so level her up.
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>>15408292
You are a good teitoku.
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Holy fuck Chiyoda-Kou's slot numbers are fucking dumb
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>>15408304
Well we need a good balance of stat players and people who play for cute.
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>>15408309
Explain.
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>>15408319
I play for cute, stats, and also lewd. I love it all.
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>>15408324
>slot 2 is 9
>slot 3 is 6
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>>15408270
>Took Yuubari to E-7
>Not Yodo
Bullshit.
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>>15400940
>newspaper

Are you sure you've gotten newspapers from the right time period?
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>>15400940
>>15408367
Well not all stories make it to a newspaper.
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>>15408355
He probably just wanted to draw Yuubari and keep Ooyodo as the secretary, this was his E-7 clear. Whether he did use Yuubari at some point or not is a different issue though.
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>>15400999
And that assumption is?
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>>15408355
I took melon to E-7, fight me.
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>>15408207
Ise is honestly pretty shit, I blame her in-game art. Hyuuga looks way better with the haircut.
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What kind of TTK doesn't have enough rocket launchers for all his DDs?
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>>15408377
That's him?
Well, at least he isn't a kuso.
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>>15408405
He's been playing since the get-go and has done every event on hard. He still had 200k+ and 2k buckets when he was done farming Oyashio and Harukaze. Also didn't take many tries to clear E-7.
https://twitter.com/utakataclub/status/734375895482261504
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>>15408398
Me, but I did it all on Hard anyway.
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Hyuuga and Ise are cool!
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>>15408331
Her slots are 24/16/11/8 at Kai Ni.
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>>15408367
>>15408372
We're talking about Ashigara and her Hungry Wolf Nickname, which she was supposedly given to her by the British Press (IE newspapers) because of her living conditions during the Coronation Fleet Review for King George VI in 1937. And as I said before.

>I've never found any English newspaper that called Ashigara a Hungry Wolf.

>I haven't actually looked that hard though, so maybe it is out there somewhere.
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>>15408398
Me.
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>>15407773
>numbers
https://a.pomf.cat/zfgbzo.xlsx

>opportunity cost
I ran a 100 slot welfare base for 9 months. I still had like 20 DDs I could sparkle and rotate. This is including ones that I actually used in sorties. When they were not required, I would use them for expeditions.

What are you doing?
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>>15404565
Too bad there's about 3-4 quests that all involve going back there.
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>>15408443
Good thing they're all easy.
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>>15408444
3-2 quest is easy compared too 5-1 quest
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>>15408458
Akatsuki and Mikawa sure, but the BB monthly is easy, especially with Seaplane Fighters.
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>>15401020
Just how bad is /a/ freaking out over Iowa?
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>>15408464
What happened to iowa?
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>>15408464
Not at all. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>15408464
>Just how bad is /a/ freaking out over Iowa?
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>>15408464
Reading comprehension, friendo.
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>>15408440
I wish I could go back to playing with 100 slots, it was pretty fun managing the fleet for a year like that but then the wave of auxiliaries and 3 new ships I ended up liking hit, I caved in.
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>>15407353
>I haven't calculated it exactly
Instead of wasting time, why not actually run the math? Sparkling DDs in 1-1 for Bw1 is immensely profitable not from the quest reward but the bonuses to your expeditions.
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>>15408464
Only SEAmonkies and euros got mad at Iowa
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>>15401459
>Iowa has fit penalty with her own guns.

Actually, I think the Iowa penalty was actually a result of the update that ended the event. After all, the issue was never brought up until after the event was over.
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>>15408498
Why would SEAmonkies even care?
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>>15408507

They think that if Japan had defeated the USA in WWII that they would all be living in 1st world countries full of otaku goods as client states of the Japanese Empire. This delusion is a result of being literally subhuman.
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>>15408377
>putting Tone in the clutch spot
Gay
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>>15408513
Only the Phillipinos seem to know otherwise. Or at least those I've spoken to.
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Hai guys
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>>15408440
I don't use my elite destroyers for expeditions because I'm afraid I'll need them for a map I decide to do.
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>>15408498
Why would Euros care about Iowa?
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>>15401752
You dare insinuate that the American whore is one of us?
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>>15408538
Good thing you can use them right now.
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>>15408538
Then plan ahead, man. You can leave 2 DDs unsparkled for 4-X, you know.
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>>15408559
Pls. You Abyssals are bigger whores than all of the ship girls combined.
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>>15408556
Former PACT people who think the rivalry between them and NATO is still relevant to the world.
>>
Is it possible to do all the daily constructions using near-min LSC recipe without having to farm for resources? This is assuming one is under soft-cap, so +4320 fuel/ammo/steel and 1440 bauxite every day.

Been having to switch between exp 38 and 6, as well as farming for steel and I'm running out of low-level subs for farming.
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>>15408585
No, you end up losing.
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>>15408585
You should've got plenty of subs from farming Yuu last event.

I was finally able to replace my 3 level 90 Goyas
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>>15408534
Well, if Malaysia is any indicator, they turned out to be no better in practice with self-governance.
Indo weeabos however, are totally off their rocker in some way.

The problem with SEA in general is that they're caught between being butthurt about China, or being butthurt about the USA's foreign policy vision while being ambivalent about Japan.
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>>15408585
Where do I farm steel

Cause I'm fucking out
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>>15408585
There is no way to get 6k bauxite in a day.
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>>15408534
>>15408607
Phillipinos don't like Japan as much since many of them died during Occupation. Like Korea, they like their anime, but not much else.
That said it's not like they are fond of China, or US, or Spain either.
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>>15408585
Why does your day last 72 hours?
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>>15408615
I wished they either buff existing expeditions like 6 and 11 or just make a new one specifically for bauxite that is the equivalent to 37/38.
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>>15408631
Literally no Asian country likes Japan

Japan doesn't do anything to help themselves in that department either, then throw temper tantrums when no one wants to send aid when they need it.
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>>15408498
>>15408507
>>15408584
Proxy butthurt is an actual thing?
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>>15408640
Then it would be too easy to LSC.
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>>15408640
The bauxite rate is fine, honestly.
Unless you are LSCing for Taihou, you should be fine with natural regen and overnight expeditions.
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>>15408642
>>15408631
>>15408607
So to summarize it's just weaboos off their rockers that like Japan in SEA?
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>>15408631
>>15408642
So what country do Phillipinos and other Asian countries do like for example?
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>>15408642
>throw temper tantrums when no one wants to send aid when they need it
What's this about?
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So much samefagging
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>>15408559
>Implying the Americans won't be working with Abyssals in the anime.
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>>15408654
Basically
>>15408665
Asian countries don't actually like each other.

They'll tolerate each other to a degree but as far as actually liking each other goes, they don't.

Korea and China don't like each other, but they hate Japan a lot more than they hate each other.

Taiwan and China hate each other, but China won't let go of Taiwan.

Asian states are generally xenophobic.
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>>15408682

>mfw commie vietnam is somehow a US ''''ally'''' because they hate China much more than the USA

I guess it was just a prank, bro
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>>15408682
All of discussions above sounds empty and pointless then.
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The countries may hate each other, but most of the populace don't actually care.
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>>15408689
It's just /int/ itching to be off topic any chance they get to.
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>>15408693
This, though personifying countries is in itself a big booboo when looking international politics. A lot of people fail to get that regardless of how popular that notion is.
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>>15408693
Not really true.

Koreans and Japanese still teach their children to hate each other, especially Koreans.

They always remind the youth about the horrible shit Japan did and to hate them for the rest of eternity.

Japan's populace has a god complex wherein they feel like Japan and Japanese people are the best and will openly condemn Koreans especially because they annexed them twice.

Koreans and Chinese people work together regularly but Korean people don't hold non Koreans in high regard in general.

They don't even consider gyopos (Koreans born and/or raised outside of the motherland) as Korean.
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>>15408706

>They don't even consider gyopos (Koreans born and/or raised outside of the motherland) as Korean.

Sucks to be Zainichi
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>>15408270
So who else will they add for more PTSD?
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>>15408706
>Koreans and Japanese still teach their children to hate each other, especially Koreans.
Citation needed.
>They always remind the youth about the horrible shit Japan did and to hate them for the rest of eternity.
Citation needed.
>Japan's populace has a god complex wherein they feel like Japan and Japanese people are the best and will openly condemn Koreans especially because they annexed them twice.
>Citation needed that this is the case for the majority of japanese people.
>Koreans and Chinese people work together regularly but Korean people don't hold non Koreans in high regard in general.
Citation needed.
>They don't even consider gyopos (Koreans born and/or raised outside of the motherland) as Korean.
There is no problem with this.
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>>15407797
Source pl0x.
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>>15408724
So everything you said is wrong.
As for where I got my knowledge from:

Talk to actual Koreans who have or currently live in Korea and they'll confirm.

You can even go watch one of those American in Korea youtube channels and you'll hear the same thing.
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>>15408731
Not that anon, but I'm guessing because some people find those things amusing.
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>>15408595
Ah, I see. Fuck.

>>15408602
All of mine are +90 now just from farming steel.

>>15408609
If you do the world 4 weekly, 4-2 is a good place imo.

I was doing 3-2 with a single sub but all of my Yuus are +90 now, so the +40 min wait is annoying; was thinking of just using buckets since I'm nearly capped and exp 2 still gives a good amount of resources.

>>15408615
480 bauxite from daily regen, and if you do exp 6 for the whole day as well as the longer overnight expeditions, you should have enough. Doing the world 2 boss-win daily in 2-2 helps a tiny bit as well if your main concern is bauxite.

I haven't been out of bauxite yet; it's steel that I'm losing out on mostly. And you only need 4k bauxite for the daily crafts (as well as 40 extra for the equipment crafting).

>>15408638
Oops, mistook bauxite's natural regen rate and multiplied the rest by 3.
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Did the Cheetos get a secret buff because they're slowing down my Souryuu grind every time I rotate them in.
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>>15408750
It only works if you do 1 LSC a day, 2 is pushing it.
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>>15408680
So where would that leave Iowa?
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>>15408609
just do tokyo express all day. don't blame me if everyone makes fun of you for it though. you can also farm battleships from 3-2 and scrap them.
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>>15408759
The goofy enemy spy!
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>>15408759
Nowhere, he's just wishfully thinking.
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>>15408763
How do you only have 27k ammo? I thought everyone was always overflowing with ammo.
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>>15408767
This makes no sense.
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>>15408767

You've obviously never ranked before.
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>>15408767
How the fuck do you even manage to get it this far?
Do you only run expedition 2 all day?
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>>15408771
I know
>>15408772
Yea I always think about ranking but then it sounds boring
>>15408774
If my buckets are under 1k I just run 2,4,5. The only reason my fuel is so low is because I did 7 taihou crafts attempts. The only ship I'm missing in this game.
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>>15408706
>>15408724
Having lived in Japan, I'll refute one thing.

Not a lot of people in Japan really cared about Korea until the early 2000s when the shitflinging started. Forget what the flashpoint was, but I think it was some football game? Hell, no one there even cared about North Korea until the whole spy boat thing happened. The biggest thing known about Korea still probably is Kimchi and Kanryu. The reality for most of these people are shit coming out of their TVs, mind you.

Personally, it really just seems like a trilateral dickwaving contest between Japan, Korea and China existing as an extension of economic friction and insecurity.
All the butthurting is just a result of it, with history and whatnot used an excuse for governments to instill their policies. I wouldn't be surprised if they suddenly turn buddy-buddies in a decade or three.
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>>15408792
Where do you get these?
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>>15408792
I'm ready for my Ise-class Kai 2s, Shibafu.
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>>15408800

>free zuiun 12 634s

yes please
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>>15408792
I wish the Ises didn't have that thing around their waist. They have nice outfits, it's a shame they're covered up like that.
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>>15408804
Also probably T32 Kais. Please give.
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>>15408800
Prepared to wait forever.
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>>15408804
>>15408809
It's not going to happen, neither is Ooyodo for her Shiun.
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>>15408811
Can't possibly be longer than CarDiv1. The devs are gonna milk that wait like their franchise depends on it.
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>>15408816
What would Carrier Division 1 remodels even be?
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>>15408820
Basically what happened to the dragons.
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>>15408820
They both get reverted back to their old worthless forms.
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>>15408792
The Ise-class are so fucking wierd with their characterization.

Ise in game has little if any characterization aside from being a genki-ish big sis, constant references to her sister and her awkward marriage lines, I guess? Then you have Hyuuga, who starts off as a dank philosopher-warrior, turning into a Zuiun and BBV fundamentalist at Kai.

I want my thinking Hyuuga back, plox.
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>>15408758
Is the limitation supposed to be bauxite?
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>>15408825
What about Kaga? She was never smiling to begin with
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of course, as soon as my quest gets to 80% done I'm sent to the boss 5 times in a row.
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>>15408835
>I want my thinking Hyuuga back
You can't make memes out of that character.
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>>15408820
So many guesses abound, but a conversion between BBs and CVs based on their historical background would be interesting.
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>>15408837
She becomes a battleship.
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>>15408837
She gains a smile.
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Could you effectively half the repair time if you use Akashi and the docks at the same time?
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>>15408837
Well she's a vapid cunt, so an angry face would suit her.
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>>15408711
Any american carrier. Or Washington for Kirishima bullying.
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>>15408711
Subs. Holy shit the subs.
>inb4 subs are still secondary in the game
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>>15408882
akashi takes the same amount of time as the docks, except when it's under 20 minutes
read the wiki
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Enterprise is more deserving of the title "American Yamato" from a cultural and symbolic standpoint, except for the part where Enterprise was actually useful.
>Sank 71 ships, and damaged or destroyed 192 more.
Wew.
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>>15409004
Wonder what kind of a girl she would be
Something less tacky than Iowa hopefully
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>>15409019
She's going to be a blonde blue eyed bimbo and you're going to like it.
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>>15409019
I wouldn't count on it. Iowa and any american ship have to be designed to scream HEY LOOK I'M AMERICAN to the Japanese fans who think they're all big boobed blonde girls.
I really would like a brunette american shipgirl with braids, but I doubt that will happen.
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>>15409019
American Kaga with a reason to be prideful, maybe angrier because she was the only USN carrier left in the Pacific at one point.
Hopefully wearing real clothes, so not drawn by Yoshinori
>>15409031
O'Bannon can be a freckled redhead mick though, right?
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>>15409031
Has there ever, and I mean EVER, been a depiction of an American girl in Japanese media that wasn't blonde?

I was thinking that although it's a common trope, it's not like the Japanese always depict Americans this way, but then I realized I couldn't think of any counter-examples.
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>>15409041
>>15409037
>>15409031
Germans tend to be more blonde than Americans and yet Max has brown/red hair. Have faith that at least one will look different.
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>>15409041
that's the point. Japanese people love americans, but they think that literally all americans are 6'2 blonde blue-eyed movie stars.
Every anime, live action depiction, I have never seen a depiction of an american or british person in Japanese media besides The Stein's Gate tsundere girl who wasn't a blonde blue eyed bimbo
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>>15409004
You forgot to mention the part where most of her kills, she had assistance from other carriers or land based planes.
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>>15409004
When it came to kills only attributing to her its about 15 - 20 or so ships. Still mighty impressive.
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>>15409037
>drawn by Yoshinori
If there's one disappointment I have with Iowa it's that she didn't bring in a new artist.
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>>15409052
>Stein's Gate tsundere girl
Are you talking about Kurisu? She's ethnically Japanese. She did grow up in America and probably has American citzenship, but she's not exactly "American" by Japanese standards.
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>>15409075
look how well that turned out for the italians
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>>15409075
After the debacle that was the Italians, I can see why they wanted to play safe.
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>>15409078
What the fuck are you smoking? Japan has huge biases against 帰国 (such as Kongou). Kurisu would be Nikkei American but not Japanese.
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>>15409075
Look at what happened to the Italians. Only Pola and Libeccio(because the guy is a loli artist) look good.
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>>15409079
>>15409085

I like Jiji's style, that doesn't mean I can't recognize there are flaws on his drawing. In any case, the devs have a very simple answerr to that problem: Give Fujikawa the rest of the murrican ships or they can even elevate one of the fan artists to oficial artist just like ZUN did with a bunch
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>>15409075
It was a either a hit or miss with a new artist, or a surefire success with Yoshinori.
Iowa is very safe design, but she is going to get easy to sell merchandise.
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>>15409102
>elevate one of the fan artists
November
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>>15409102
Honestly the problem with Italia is that her face doesn't match her body.
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>>15409107
Yea I agree. November or Stick with Yoshinori.
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>>15409102
>Give Fujikawa the rest of the murrican ships
She will be stuck in Gumo limbo for the next ten years, anon. Just let it go.
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>>15409102
>they can even elevate one of the fan artists to oficial artist just like ZUN did with a bunch
That's exactly what Jiji was. He drew a lot of 6thDesDiv porn and had to delete it all.
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>>15409091
That has nothing to do with what I'm trying to point out.

For the purposes of her appearance, she's still ethnically Japanese, so she's not a real counter-example to the typical American blonde girl trope.
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>>15409102
>>15409105
>>15409107
>>15409112
Why don't we give Persley a try? He can create semen demon.
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>>15409121
There was a black scientist in Ika Musume.
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>>15409115
Didn't he get his job because he was a friend of one of the devs or original artists?
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So are all the americans going to be drawn by Yoshinori?
I am fine with this.
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>>15409122
I would love to see Parsley draw up a CV and BB.
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>>15409122
I will swear up and down and live by the fact that November would be the best new artist they can bring. I love his enterprise design so I guess you can just decide whether or not you would want this in the game.
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>>15409085
>>15409097
People seem to dislike the Italians, but I think they all look pretty good. With the exception of Roma, but my issues with her are more her design than the art.

I think something is slightly off about Iowa too, I think it's something with her face. She could be cuter.
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>>15409133
I don't know who drew it, but my favorite fan version of enterprise had her shooting planes out of a winchester rifle.
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>>15409133
I'd say no for this design. It's like he/she/they has no idea with the rigging.
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>>15409122
Because of advertisement. Yoshinori got his job to design Iowa because he can make official pieces like this.
It's pretty obvious the IowaXYamato pairing is being pushed by the devs.
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>>15409125
That's true. It's more common now to see black men in Japanese media, but I don't see black women all that often.

That reminds me, I've read plenty of doujins where some Japanese guy meets some American girls. If there's just one, they're usually blonde, but if there's a second or more, odds are good that one of them is a brunette.
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>>15409154
So, it will be monkeywoman or Shibafu if they want to push some pairing.
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>>15409133
I like the design, but the sketchy quality of the illustration doesn't really fit well with the rest of KanColle.
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>>15409149
Post it.
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>>15409153
It's really lazy. She's basically just a girl hauling around the Enterprise's hull like a golf caddy.
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>>15409154
I think its a nice pairing, its cute. Lot better than Engrish garbage with Bongou.
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>>15409162
Colouring isn't that much different than bobs.
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>>15409133
Look, I like November but Enterprise is his weakest design. Phoenix is probably second.

I'd be ok with Blonde Enterprise if she gets Naganami-style silver underneath when she remodels and becomes the Grey Ghost
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Japanese Carriers: Miko, Onmyou
German Carrier: Gypsy magician
American Carrier: Red Indian shaman? Warlock?
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>>15409091
>Japan has huge biases against 帰国
You mean 帰国子女. Also mind you explaining your take on what this bias is?
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>>15409159
I'd rather have a monkey than a potato.
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>>15409184
I was just posting his Enterprise design since that's what was being discussed. I also think it's not his best. I'm partial to his Iowa design. Honestly made me not like the Iowa in-game as much but that's because I like dresses. Doubt we'll have a ship like that ever though.
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>>15409187
American carriers can be frontier women with prairie rifles.
Or just give them a variation on the actual WWII female USN uniform.
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>>15409187
Classic stage magician, flinging playing card Grummans out of a top hat.

I'm not being serious.
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>>15409133
I honestly wouldn't have minded November only if so many fags hadn't gone on a posting binge of his stuff a year or so back.
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>>15409187
>gypsy

What?
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So why do CA feel so underpowered? They always miss and hit like noodles.
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>>15409187
Will Aquila be a chef?
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>>15409197
Fuso, what the hell are you wearing? and where did you get that parasol?
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>>15409221
Get your eyes checked anon. Fusou is much prettier.
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>>15408537
>Hai guys
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>>15409209

People were pretty excited about someone making some decent USN kanmusu designs.
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>>15409197
Literally a Yamato clone, without any of the real ship's aesthetics. I will say, she probably would look better in Arpeggio though.
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>>15409241
And we know how toxic it can get when people get overexcited.
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>>15409198
>>15409187
We have to think, what would Yoshinori draw if he drew a Carrier?
>>15409211
Graf Summons her planes by cards.
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>>15409241
While they are okay, they don't really mesh well with Kancolle and kinda miss the point.
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>>15409247

It's probably you hating on anything popular and the people having fun with it, nothing new since this thread is full of hipsters like this.
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>leave the thread for a few hours
>come back and it's full of chinkposting

November's designs are fucking horrendous and should be purged from the internet. I'd rather have the entire USN be Idaho potatoes.
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>>15409254
>you hating on anything popular
Not so much that
>the people having fun with it
Not even that
>Seeing the same shit posted over and over again like /a/ with some individuals clinging on to it like it's their life
More like that part
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Only have to get 2 more wins at G node before I can go to bed..

RNG plz..
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>>15409256
>reasonable discussion about designs
>comes back and immediately shitposts
Thanks for keeping the thread in line!
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>>15409256
Well, you're here now, I'm sure this thread will be nothing but quality from here on out.
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>>15409248
>We have to think, what would Yoshinori draw if he drew a Carrier?
Since I think they are going to go with a recognizable motiff with American carriers, plus Yoshinori's need to fap to his own designs.
Probably something like this.
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>>15409216

What are you equipping them with?
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>>15409268
RNG was kind to me, sent me there nearly all day, got the daily done quick and got 2 extra Souryuus.
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>>15409154
Does that mean the American DD will be a potato since Fubuki is the MC? Would be funny if O'Bannon was the chosen ship girl.
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>>15409281
two fit red guns, seaplane, and a radar
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>>15409262

Well, the thing is, they were something a lot of people had been fantasizing about since the birth of Kancolle. For any naval military enthusiast it was also a big source of discussion and as such, people had to use and post those designs over and over again since, well, those were the only decent ones at that time.
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>>15409287
That's only if they go for a multiple artists route. Which they have never done before with any foreign fleet and I doubt they will start now.
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>>15409271
>>15409273

Anything to break up the circlejerk, Zhang. I can appreciate November's effort in drawing so many ships but the style doesn't fit "kawaii ships shooting not-so-kawaii abyssals", his shading is wonky as hell, and the rigging looks like dogshit.

And loli Enterprise is an unforgivable sin.
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>>15409288

how upgraded are the guns? Which radar?
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>>15409287
O'Bannon should be the main USN destroyer but it's gonna be Fletcher, Edsall, or one of Taffy 3, most likely.
>>15409292
I feel like being the other major combatant in the Pacific means that we'll get more artists, and more than 6 ships from the USN, but that's wishful thinking. Especially at the rate we've been getting new ships.
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What happens exactly when a ship goes directly from full health to 1 HP? Can't believe the attack on her did exactly full HP-1 damage and since it doesn't look like overkill protection worked...
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>>15409287
You just want Potato jokes.
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>>15409166
I guess I misremembered. it was nuclear enterprise with a shotgun.
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>>15409300
It could also be the Fletcher or Gleaves class destroyers we lent to Japan. After all who better to assign to the Japanese Fleet than girls who already are familiar with Japan?
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How exactly does ranking work? The ranking page in the wiki is "under construction" and contains basically zero information.

Where can I see my current rank on the server and my ranked points?

I am still somewhat new, started in January. Is it worth doing ranked for me? Obviously I will only try to hit the best 500.

What is the best fleet composition to run 5-4, resource cost wise? (aside from 6 subs)

Approximately how many 5-4 runs do I have to do on a casual server to get into the best 500?

What exactly gives you ranked points, only sorties? Do quests, expeditions, etc also give you points?
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>>15409379
>The ranking page in the wiki is "under construction" and contains basically zero information.
False.
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>>15409379

>The ranking page in the wiki is "under construction" and contains basically zero information.

What the flying fuck are you talking about? It's all there in plain english.
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>>15409384
>>15409386

He's talking about this page, which is quite barebones.

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Ranking
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>>15409391

Why is that page even there when a fully updated one is right on the front page? Sasuga wikia admins.
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>>15409324
They share names with some IJN ships, which would lead to fun but mostly depressing interactions, and also they weren't in service with the JMSDF until long after the war.
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anyway, he should be taking a look at this page

http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Experience_and_Rank

Monthly Ranking section.
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>>15409379
There are example comps if you look under 5-4 in the world 5 section.
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>>15409379
You need 4 of lv99 full subs fleet. Sortie at least 400 times +all EO.
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>>15409419
is 400 really enough? that's only 13 times a day. I thought you needed like 30 times a day for top 500.
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>>15409451
>30 times a day for top 500

Not even March required that much.
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>>15409451
Depends on months, roughly you need more than 1600, which is 800 excluding EO.
Note that 1600 is the border line, you always need more than that. Even though the number seems to be small, don't forget that it accumulated every day. In a long run it will worn down your mentality a bit by bit.
Anyway, the safe goal is to catch up at 350th, stay at 350th, gain more 50 other before the last cut off. It will protect you from any bullshit EO cannon.
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>>15409476
*more 50 pts.
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>>15409476
500th place is at 1244 right now and there's still 2 weeks left. I don't see how 1600 will be even close to enough.
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>>15409487
>1244

Things are looking pretty confy at Iwagawa
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>>15409487
I thought the same as you in my first month of ranking, but actually, most 500th rankers do +100pts/day in the last week. At that time, everyone near 500th will think 'I might have a chance this month!' and it will becomes one hell of race.
According to stats, this months will easily be 1900-2000.
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>>15409102
Getting the devs to realize Fujikawa is good is next to impossible. They can't seriously make her do only gumo ships for the rest of time, this is just fucked up.
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>>15409501

Well, they'll eventually run out of gumos then she'll be condenmed to do fairies and promo art forever.
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What the hell can I do with a 3rd Akashi? I feel bad using her as simply modernization fodder.

3-5 boss S rank for anyone that believes in time based RNG.
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>>15409487
That's the base line for lowly competitive months, for highly competitive months, it's around 2000-2100.
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>>15409296
I mean, literally everything you said is correct. People who get triggered by "chink" just prove how insufferable people can be about these designs. What "decent discussion" was disrupted? People posting about which one they liked best? How about responding to some of the criticisms with more than "I like dresses so I like this" The art is sketch and the rigging is really awful and awkward. It doesn't fit in with the other designs at all which seems to be attractive to chink sympathizers for some reason. I can understand personal preference, but if your preference is a 180 from the current designs, maybe you are just tired of kancolle art. I'm not and novembers designs were cool for concept sketches but nothing I would want implemented in the game.
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>>15409530
November is just Bob+Jiji, my dude.
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>>15409530

Nobody cares wether you like, hate, think it's shit, etc. the designs. You've made your point clear a thousand times and there are people that agree and disagree with you like every single issue there is in this world.

Being triggered by people talking about November in a positive way it's a problem you have, nothing to do with anything you've exposed.
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Another anon
Just so you know, I tried every single blasted recipe I was told except the one you posted.

After exactly 134 LSC attempt I now own my soon-to-be-wed Bisko

Bless your soul Anon.
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>>15409540
Consider that your over defensive attitude and paranoia about everyone who disagrees with you being one person is what compelled me to post in the first place. I'm not whatever boogeyman you think I am but I do agree that you get too upset over what seem like pretty valid points. I'm pretty sure more than one person isn't a fan and I felt like pointing out I am one of those anons. Your defensive attitude made me stop lurking for the first time in a month and defend chinkhater. You've become what you hate most my son.
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>>15409587

Man, I just want to discuss about ships in peace with no one coming in and calling shit whatever stuff I'm discussing. I only chose to not ignore you this time.
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>>15409597
Right. Because everyone knows what makes "decent discussion" is a group of like minded people who get together to filter out anything they don't want to hear. Sorry for daring to enter an opinion that made you uncomfortable. Maybe 4chan should have a voting system where we can let the community decide what posts can be seen or not! That would certainly spur the type of "discussion" you're looking for.

Seriously, you sound like a baby. Sorry if you think the cons I listed aren't worthy of your time, but I think the fact that literally 0 designs could be implemented as is while fitting in says something about the quality of it in some aspects. Truly sorry if this wasn't the safe space you were hoping for.
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Is 2WG + Tank the best choise for DD in 6-4?
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Anyway, I do think Noveember could get into Kancolle if he made cleaner designs and improved his riggings.
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>>15409636
So stop being shit? Yeah that'd help.
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quality rigging
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I wish the devs would at least consider this kind of girl for any new Iowa class. Current Iowa is unsightlly.
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how could the chinks ever compete
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if only the international chinaman was capable of clean artstyles like this
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something something next to the other characters in this franchise
I can't even shitpost about this garbage.
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>>15409634
Wouldn't one maxed tank be enough? Apparently at least against pillboxes tank is Firepower x (2.40+0.08xStars)

Is there any info on how WG work together with tank/daihatsu?
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>>15409656

By making actually better designs?
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>>15409669
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>>15409664
I just watch this thai guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW7MHglSnBE
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>>15409669
>>15409671
Are those really funnels?
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>>15409669
Chinkolle is what happens when someone tries to make an entire franchise worth of designs by ripping off Ayaki.
It would actually fit in KanColle's awful scifi design niche that we're stuck with, though, instead of Shimakaze sucking on her own.
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>>15409672
Anon posted these a while ago
https://my.mixtape.moe/qqpnem.webm
https://my.mixtape.moe/hoistz.webm

His setup seems better but I haven't tried it yet
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>>15409683
>by ripping off Ayaki

What do you mean?
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>>15409673
unicorn gundam funnel shield
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>>15409693
I can't believe they actually took the whole concept and pasted it onto their ZKMS.
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>>15409691
http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/Glossary#List_of_Vessels_by_Artist
Floating robot nonsense= Ayaki
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>>15409698

pretty cool looking to be honest.
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>>15409683

The whole concept of Kanmusu is sci fi anon.
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>>15409711
Yes, but most of the designs are grounded in the 40's and the actual aesthetic of the ships they represent (Even Shimakaze with the Rensouhous). Ayaki just does whatever the fuck he wants.
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>sinking meatshields when sparkling your girls
It's okay, I already got copies of them. No values lost.
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>>15409719
>using meatshields
I've found that it's generally not worth the trouble. High level girls usually don't take damage, low level girls are easy to repair.
Still worth it for battleships if you're sparkling those for support or something, though. 1-1 scratches BBs quite well.
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>>15409715
>are grounded in the 40's

Nagatos, Yamatos, all subs, 5th CarDiv, Furutaka class, Kai Ni Takaos, and those are the "capital ships" designs I can remember now. Those are pretty off anything from the 40's.

On another hand, Chinkolle got a lot of "traditional" designs too.
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>>15409729
>High level girls usually don't take damage
My level 99 DDs taking 1 or 2 damage says otherwise.
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>>15409719
It's okay. I deliberately sink my shitgure meatshields while sparkling.
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>>15409733
Happens sometimes. It's annoying, but you can patch it up pretty quickly either with Akashi or slow repairs. Even for high level ships, slow repairs will take about 30 minutes as long as it's only 1-2 HP gone.
I think it still saves trouble in the long run, it's really annoying to be switching meat shields out all the time.
I usually do one big sparkle run to coincide with bw1 to pick up easy boss victories, and then one once weeklies are finished, and some time playing idlecolle after each sparkle session while I repair all the scratched up girls the slow way. As long as you have a decent number of destroyers, sparkling twice a week will keep all your expeditions going.
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>>15409729
>High level girls usually don't take damage
Except this isn't true. I sortie level 80+ ships and the DDs I married and they will always get a few hitpoints knocked. They won't ever be chuuha but eventually you're going to have to Akashi repair them.

That said I still don't think it's worth the trouble of using meatshields. It takes way too much effort to save yourself like 20 resources. I'll just Akashi repair them every night I go to sleep or work and it should never be a problem.
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It sucks that I'm running out of ships to level so I'm stuck with shitty and no-name DDs I don't like. As much as I hate Akebono, I have no other choice.
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>>15409760
Farm equipment.
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What's the chance they'll require Taigei for routing in the summer event?
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>>15408706
>They don't even consider gyopos (Koreans born and/or raised outside of the motherland) as Korean.

Chinese and Japanese think the same way of their counterparts as well.

If anything, these three countries hold the principle of, "You will never be part of our culture/you will never be a countryman" when it comes to naturalization/integration at the cultural and social level.
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>>15409770

As slim as Kamo had before becoming a fucking easy routing ticket fuck you devs
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>>15409770
She can equip seaplane fighters. Her role is big enough.
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>>15409785
You have no idea how painful it is when I have to sortie Kamo. I hate her so much. I want to scrap taitei-chan in front of her so much. I had to fap to that one short Kamo quasi-rape doujin after last event because I fucking hated using that bitch.
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How did /a/ Kancolle threads become so awful? It's like that one Shigure hater fag combined with 10 other constant shitposters that refuse to let the threads be decent with translation works.
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>>15409770
exactly 0
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>>15409796
Too bad I hope you have to use her more often kamo.
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>>15409253
November's stuff is just slightly above Victory Belles-tier design. There's a fair amount that's off.
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>>15409804
Isn't /a/ just shit in general?
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>>15409296
>wonky as hell

I've noticed that of a lot of chink artist work at pixiv. They mostly have a uniformity of style too.

I don't know how I should regard or approach these chink artists. Sure they have *okay* art but they might be pretty unscrupulous down inside.
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>>15409819
>unscrupulous

The hell you mean?
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>>15409530
chink art seems to be liked by normies and /k/fags, so there. Normal kancolle art is too 'problematic' for them, so November's stuff feels like "fixing things right and proper and dignified"
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>>15409701
If anything, that Shimakaze would be "ripping off" Gundam with the way the shields are designed.
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>>15409834
That they would be have some manner of underhandedness or backstabbing with regards to doing business in some way with them.
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>>15409843

Right now the center of the world in terms of commerce is China, what the hell makes you believe they are like that?

>>15409836

>chink art

pic related is also in Warships Girls. Talk about "proper"

>Normal kancolle art is too 'problematic' for them, so November's stuff feels like "fixing things right and proper and dignified"

Except lots of Kancolle fan artists draw their girls with dignity in mind instead of making then fap idols. Think for a moment about what they did to Kashima.
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>>15409871

Forgot pic.
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>>15409804
Kaga autists, doujin memes, it's just normal /a/.
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>>15401654
No, it's newfag-tier
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>>15409836
I get they are kind fun as a concept but I don't understand people who think they are superior. Even the Iowa that the other anon keeps posting does seem like a poor mans yamato attempt without anything I can see that is better than the current Iowa. Personally I think the first american ship in the game should be a loud confident big boobed blonde. That's certainly more american than a quiet looking girl in a sundress, or at least more on point with the worlds perception of America.

The designs just look like more polished victory belles. Even something like Kawakazes ka ni, which a lot of people didn't like still looks cooler than anything in chinkolle just from detail and style.
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She heard about your hobbies from Kagerou.
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>>15408837
She becomes an aviation battleship with a severely reduced plane capacity but with a single 41cm twin gun mount.
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>>15409994

So, in your opinion, they should have made the italians retarded lazy girls who were saying "PASTAAAAAA" all the time because that's how people see italians in Japan? I personally like more November's version of Iowa as a quiet a somewhat sad looking girl from one of the most rural and isolated states in the union than a blonde bimbo which would have been more fitting for USN New York or USN Texas.

If anything, relying in sterotypes, specially bad stereotypes, seems way worse than trying to go beyond those by making a more
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>>15408861
But that would break the universe.
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>>15408905
USS Bonhomme Richard should be safe, seeing as how she didn't reach the front line until the IJN had basically ceased to exist and therefore didn't actually face down any Japanese ships.
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>>15410065
>a more

*closer aproach to the state they represent.

the hell, why did it cut my sentence?
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>>15410065
>>15410075
Except they don't represent a state, they are simply named after them.
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>>15410065
We've been over this before, Iowas was born in New York. Fuck off with this Novembershit already. Yoshinori Iowa is official, November's is not and none of his shit ever will be.
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Would you join?
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Army strong.
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>>15410104
This is cute.
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>>15409731
KanColle designs look more KanColle because of Tanaka.
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>>15410065
We are not playing Hetalia of something. Iowa is a full fledged New Yorker.
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>>15410082
>>15410089
>>15410132

>Battleships (BB), by law, were named for states, except for USS Kearsarge (BB-5).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ship_naming_conventions

>"all of the ships, of the Navy of the United State (...) shall be named (...) according to the following rule, to wit: those of the first class shall be called after the states of this Union"
http://www.navy.mil/navco/pages/ssp/reference/naming.pdf

>call after
>Name someone after somebody else
http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/phrasal-verbs/call+after.html

>name after
>name (someone or something) after/for (someone or something else), to give a name to (someone or something) in memory of or tribute to someone or something else.
http://www.wordreference.com/definition/name%20after

For me it's pretty clear that, for personality purposes, a shipgirl using the name of an state should honor that state, their traditions and culture as a whole. If you follow the fanon that kanmusu were normal and/or reincarnated girls, wouldn't it be natural for then to be native of the state they were named after too?
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>>15409871
All the "doing business in China" horror stories.
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>>15410148
She is a ship not a state.
IJN ships also has nothing to reflect their namesake (Yamato, Musashi, Kongou, Fusous, Sendai, etc.)
Go play Hetalia if you want state girls that much.
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>>15410148
>wouldn't it be natural for then to be native of the state they were named after too?
No, because the girls are from where they were built.
See Musashi's lines
>Time for lunch... What? I want to eat sara udon... Ah, how I miss it...
>1 o'clock PM. Recently, I impulsively bought a hamburger, you know? They're somehow popular. I wanted to eat one.
>3 o'clock, huh? I wonder if I could get Mamiya to make me a Castella...
She was built in Nagasaki and references food from Nagasaki, instead of the old Japanese province she was named after.

In any case this discussion is dumb, since Iowa's characterization is a generic American instead of specifically a New Yorker or being from Iowa.
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>>15409871
Chink will try to squeeze their profit from you whenever they have a chance. No give and take or play a bit fair business.
They're Jew of Asia.
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>>15410148
But Suzuya doesn't act psuedo Russian nor does Kitakami act like a farm girl. Maya and Choukai don't act like shrine maidens either.

Go back to your SEA monkey forum/FB group.
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>>15410182
and Chinks stealing your company and throwing you put of the the business you built from the ground up.

If this is so, how is it like to work with chink artists from pixiv?
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>>15410180

Yet that's in Japan, with japanese ships and japanese naming conventions, which can't be directly extrapolated to american naming conventions.
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>>15410195
>Go back to your SEA monkey forum/FB group.

BTW I'm spanish, get your insults right.
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>>15410218
The Pastas and Eugen don't act like like their namesake people or places either.
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>>15410195
>Go back to your SEA monkey forum/FB group.
SEAgod here. I'm sure better at this game than you
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>>15410223
GIB ZENNY HUEHUEHE PLOX
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>>15410229

Well, I dunno about that, I'm just putting forward what US legislation had decided about their BBs.

>>15410237

Still wrong.
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There is also the fact that ship girls tend to reference the place they were built.
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>>15410241
I think that would work better if shipgirls are girls that become ships. But this is ships that become girl.
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>>15410251

Can very well be the time they spent in the place where their rigging was built.

Anyway, I've got a good explanation that will satisfy everyone in this thread: Kancolle Iowa is not the real Iowa but a japanese built reversed engineered Iowa equiped with a memetic personality that satisfied her builders' preconceptions about americans any resemblance to reality is pure coincidence.
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>>15410274
You're retarded.
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>>15410274
You really need to do something about your delusional headcanon.
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>>15410274
How about go play 'Pacific'? They should have better things to offer.
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best fleet for 5-5? 4cv 2bb 420fp?
or 3cv
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>>15410315
Yahagi + Ten-go DDs
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>>15410326
thank
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>>15410341

Be sure to take the drum route.
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>>15410315
Anythings works.
Skip this day if you get taiha at elite-Re.
Continue trying if you success.
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>>15410351

spam Tokyo Express and you'll never run out of steel.
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>>15410148
If that were the case Kongou wouldn't go around being a brit.
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>>15410285

Why it's delusional?
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/jp/ lend me the willpower to break out of idlecolle and clear my EOs!
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>>15410389

As I said, I'm talking about USN laws and naming conventions, not japanese whose origins and even reasoning may very well be completely different.
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>>15410397
No one gives a shit about US laws, let alone Tanaka.
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>>15410274
You sound like that one butthurt wikiafag who was trying to justify Iowa being in the "Axis" fleet by saying she was a captured ship. Stop being delusional, that's the real Iowa going by the E-7 flavor text from when you clear the map and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>15410390
Because it's pretty obvious you're in denial since Iowa didn't look like November's poorman's hotel.
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>>15410400

Well, the game is supposed to be inspired on reality, real ships, real battles, etc. If what you said is true then it would just mean that, from a formal and arguably artistic point of view, November did a better job at creating an "Iowa" than Tanaka. I know there are, of course, other things to be considered, like satisfying japanese preconceptions and dicks while making perfect merchandising material (November's Iowa would clearly not sell much).

>>15410421

pic related
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>>15410440

To be honest, I'd have felt satisfied with a less memetic aproach for the first USN ship.
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>>15410455
You were delusional from the moment you expected something other than a walking stereotype after the Germans and Italians.
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>>15410466
God damn that is one cute boy.
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>>15410459

>something other than a walking stereotype

Except Prinz and practically all the italians aren't stereotypes. I specially liked the Italians because in various ways you could recognize their country of origin without falling into the stereotype. I'm spanish, pretty close culturally to Italy. I also talked with my italian friends who play Kancolle and all of then agreed that they liked the italian ships.

And even in all foreign ships based in stereotypes previous to Iowa, their personalities weren't done to mock their country of origin but were pretty dignified.
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>>15410491
>their personalities weren't done to mock their country of origin but were pretty dignified.
Oh it's you, why don't you fuck off already.
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>>15410491
I'm American and I see nothing wrong about Iowa. I don't need a gaijin speaking for me about a ship from my country. I couldn't care less what you and your friends think, she's the perfect representation of America for a game like this, and the usual of what you see in Japanese anime.
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>>15410497

Sorry to have said something unconfortable to you, should we implement a voting or reputation system so people can't make you feel like that?
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>>15409107
>>15409112
Death to chinkshit.
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>>15410491
And there is nothing mocking about Iowa you retarded spic.
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>>15410491
Are you deaf? Iowa is quite prideful in her power in aggressive battle line.

Also, your argument is weak since November's Iowa is also the stereotype of Iowan.
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>>15410491
How is this >>15408270 mocking my country in any way?
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>>15410510

I live in Iowa and I don't agree with you.
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>>15410523
Iowa is a New Yorker, not an Iowan.
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>>15410523
Iowa is not from Iowa.
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>>15409127
Where did you read this?
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>>15410516
>>15410517
>>15410519

Well, that's just my opinion on the matter. If you feel it's not insulting, great for you.
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>>15410533
Piss off Spic.
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>>15410533
Then stop trying to force your opinion on others. You're in the vocal minority, no one gives a shit about your opinion.
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>>15410533
>I-its just my opinion
>can't take the opinions of others

good one
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>>15410533
Because Iowa is blonde and big boobed, she is a dumb bimbo right? Your opinion is retarded, and typical from a normalfag.
Let me guess, because Yamato is named after the ancestral birthplace of Japan it obviously means Kantai Collection is insulting their own nation right?
After all, she is the butt of hotel jokes and wears padding because she has the smallest tits of all the BBs.
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>>15409296
>And loli Enterprise is an unforgivable sin.

Enterprise isn't loli, she just does a good job of hiding her displacement.
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>>15409688
>807

Can Ooshio even be stopped?
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>>15409653
You obviously have a burning hatred for freedom and democracy. Get out of here pinko-commie scum.
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>>15409875
BBs are not loli!
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>>15410397
>Thinks that US ships should personify their namesake states because of "muh legislation."
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>>15410466
Kadokawa

Y U NO INCLUDE REMODELS IN KC ARCADE?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgv7ztWTnZA

I want to commit a crime.
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>>15410875
Sega made it
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>>15410875
>Y U NO
Are we being raided?
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Who's this shipthis anyway?
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>>15410592
>Because Iowa is blonde and big boobed, she is a dumb bimbo right?

She must be pretty slow if she can't speak her own language correctly.
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>>15410916
Nagato, the one in the original logo.
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>>15410911
I knew Yamashiro was slim. Thanks Sega.
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>>15410491
>Pasta? PASTA!
What was that about the Italians not being stereotypes?

>>15410875
Fuck off back to facebook jesus fucking christ.
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I want a game where I can play the Abyss girls and kill everyone.
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>>15410958
HOI4
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>>15411002
They have Abyssal Fleet girls?
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>>15411002

>HoI
>Not suggesting WitP
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>>15410958
Fuck off.
>>
Why did we have to rescue Iowa from Abyssal base anyway? How she was there in the first place?
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>>15411006
You can easily churn out so many warships that you can declare war on everyone and lock down the entire world's oceans with no repercussions.
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>>15411019
what? Not moe enough?
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>>15411016
WITP is too complex for me.
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>>15411021
Or was this a heroic moment like Iowa fight Abyssals to let her comrade escaped?
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>>15411021
Abyssals can turn into their non-abyssal form if you travel to america.
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>>15411021
Because she was intercepted en-route to Japan.
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>>15411047
what? Now I want to see the human form of ancient destroyer cutie.
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>>15411063
Kamikaze and Harukaze
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>doing pvp
>spec for asw
>enemy fleet has 6 subs
>double check everything and pick line abreast
>at the last minute they swap out to 6 level 99 CVs
I haven't been trolled this hard since people did the trick where they stack AA and put their first 2 ships as level 1s so you get no xp and run out of bauxite
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>>15411067
really? How have I missed that?
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>>15411054
But that's no way USN would let her sail across Pacific without any escorts, right?
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>>15411079
Said escorts were most likely wiped out.
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>>15411079
They're the DDs you have to farm next event.
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>>15410466
>looks around the room
>what a nice rain

Is Shigure high?
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>>15411084
You mean scattered. Or maybe it was Willie d.
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>>15411091
I hope Enterprise will wait for us at Panama!
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