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How will you get your mahjong fix now that Tenhou is dead?

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How will you get your mahjong fix now that Tenhou is dead?

Useful links and tips: http://pastebin.com/9WYsXMLF
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>>15383696
>Tenhou
>Dead
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There's another maintenance?
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>you will never be a middle-aged japanese man playing mahjong with other near alcoholics late into the evening while ignoring all your wife's calls
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>Start month 2+2+2+12
>Now 7+7+3+12
>All the R is back
>Still down 500 pt
Could be worse I guess. Still nowhere near R2000.
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>>15383721
No, they blocked all non-jp ips
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>>15383810
Wait, when? I haven't had any problems today.
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>>15383813
It was some time a few hours ago. If you stayed logged in when they banned IPs you still should be able to play, but if you quit and try to relog it won't work.
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>now that Tenhou is dead
what
WHAT
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>>15383810
Wait. What?!

That better not be true.
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>>15383837
Unfortunately it is. I just spectated matches with a Japanese VPN.
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So what was the motive behind banning non japanese IPs? I don't see why a reason why they would do it.
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>>15383871
All I could think of is maybe a ddos, and they banned all foreign IPs to stop it.

I don't think this will be permanent. Tsuno has always seemed pretty friendly towards us gaijins. I even vaguely remember him wanting to put out an english version at one point.
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>>15383871
>>15383881
Hopefully, this is temporary. In the meantime, we can direct people over to Sega if anyone is itching to play now.
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>>15383881
I hope that is the case. 4chan has a similar case last night were they blocked Russian IPs for a bit of time before letting them back in. I'm fairly sure a good number of non Japanese people pay for the client as well, so they would just lose out on revenue.

I just started getting into Mahjong and this has kind of shocked me a bit.
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Use proxy for now. Yea, hopefully it's temp thing.
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>>15383871
Might be as simple as they are looking for players using the crack.
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It's back.
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>>15384134
I knew Tsuno won't abandon us.
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http://blog.tenhou.net/article/175663741.html
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>>15383810
I bet the Russians are to blame for this. They are banned from 4chan as well.
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>>15384271
They even apologized for it. They are nice.
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>>15384333
They got unbanned after an hour or so.
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>Dealer furiten riichi haneman
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>>15384507
>Have a dealer haneman tenpai
>Some faggot gets an ippatsu tsumo on a tanki hell wait with 3 ura and you have to pay half of that bullshit baiman
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>Have a set of a chun dora
>am in tenpai if I discard a risky tile
>it doesn't pass
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>>15384680
My dealer turn is essentially a trigger for the system to give one of the other three fags the most bullshit baiman+ no matter how desperately i try to cobble together an open tanyao
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someone asked me something about xkime in the previous thread but it got archived before i could respond.
-he is not japanese, he from argentina but recently moved to japan,
-i dunno, maybe he seems like an asshole on some comments. didnt get that impression, sometimes people comes off as more dickish on the internet than IRL, but in my own xp he is pretty cool and super fun to play with. im not a friend or anything but hes well liked in the local community
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>>15385715
Personally, I've never really had any problems with him either, but he has acted like a huge asshole before. In particular, http://osamuko.com/merry-christmas/ comes to mind.
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>>15385825
yeah, you're right. he was a major asshole there. nothing to argue there. and the other guy's response was pure class which makes it even worse. truly awful stuff
i dunno, i just met him recently and that's kinda old, maybe he's more mature now that he's a father or something like that, or maybe he's less of an asshole in person or maybe i just didn't have the time to have him be an asshole to me. whatevs.
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>>15385905
I don't know, the guy made a dumb move and then got defensive in the comments, making negative assumptions about someone else over it. He's hardly innocent. I don't blame him for getting upset, no one likes to be criticized, but it wasn't as elegant as you make it out to be.

That said, I understand why people think xkime's an ass at times after reading this. He does come off as opinionated, close-minded, and unempathetic when he's discussing things with others.
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>>15385905
>the other guy's response was pure class

GBtousai pls.
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>>15385715
>>15385825
>>15385905
>>15385928
>>15385930
Please take this somewhere else.
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>using ippan tonpusen to grind back points

I've become what I hate
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>>15385996
If you're going to play tonpusen just use the highest lobby available to you because tonpusen is more luck-based.
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I really thought this was a good riichi, but it looks like I am mistaken. To rub even more salt on my wounds, I was ron'd a turn before I can tsumo the lone ton tile in the wall. Ended up 2nd because of this hand alone.
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>>15386022
Chitoitsu has no good riichi.
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>>15386036
East wasn't the round tile and the automatic response on early riichi like this is to discard the least dangerous tiles, i.e. my nonseat honor tiles, which is exactly what happened but unfortunately the ton wouldn't drop at all and as I expected two of them were on the dead wall. I could've gone without riichiing here because I was in the lead but it was just to good of a wait to skip.
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>>15386022
That's unlucky. I think you shouldn't have riichi'd though, that hand has a lot of potential. Honitsu, Toitoi, even Shosangen or Tsu Ii Sou.
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>>15386054
Still not a good riichi. You're waiting on only 3 tiles, hoping your opponents have them and will drop one and also hoping for the wall not to screw you if your opponents don't have any. Too much hoping = not a good riichi.

Chitoitsu has no good riichi.
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>>15386062
>only 3 tiles
Not to mention it's 3 tiles of ONE type.
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>>15386054
>least dangerous tiles, i.e. my nonseat honor tiles

I thought this only applies to ippan? Not so sure though.
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>>15386055
>>15386062
>>15386102
I can't take it back so I'll just take it as a lesson learned. I had the lead so I should've taken a step back and let them play themselves.
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>>15386106
For what it's worth I think riichi'ing chi toi is fine, especially on tiles likely to come out. You probably would've won that hand if the other two weren't in the dead wall. But doing it without any dora isn't worth it most times, doesn't pay off very well unless you get lucky.
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>>15386022
There's no problem at all with calling riichi here. It's still only S1, you've only got a 3400 point lead, your wait is strong, and you get to cut off last place's dealer turn. There's no need to open up your hand by calling, because not only does it take you back shanten (which you should almost never do) but it significantly restricts your hand by making you reliant on being able to call the rest of your tiles, and it also makes your hand a lot easier to read.

>>15386062
>Chitoitsu has no good riichi.
This is plain wrong. Chiitoitsu's greatest advantage is its unpredictability. The only real way to defend against it is to discard only 100% safe tiles, which is especially difficult to do against a second turn riichi.

On top of that, dama chiitoitsu nomi is trash beyond trash. Riichi raises the expected value of your hand by a lot thanks to the possibility of tsumo and uradora, and it also applies pressure on the other players. You'd generally only dama chiitoitsu if you have already dora, if you really don't need the points, or if it's late in the round and you need to be defensive.
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>>15385928
Imagine yourself trying to discuss Yugioh TCG strategies and decks seriously while having to deal with the dozens of weeb comments about "the heart of the cards". You start sounding opinionated very quickly, and at one point you just stop caring and only say what you have to say, no sugar coating.
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>>15385905
The truth is that lately he's way too busy to be as big of an asshole as he wants to be.

Hi, Pat.
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>>15386294
>xkime doesn't think the heart of the cards exists

I was wrong, I guess he is an asshole afterall.
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>>15386612
Did it work?
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Wether or not chime is an ass, let's stop pretending we're all a bunch of mahjong saints that only exist in this thread. We all go insult/be an asshole elsewhere on 4chan once we're done here
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>>15386114
This is mostly correct. From what I've seen though, if you riichi in the last few rounds people tend to panic and throw non round winds almost every time. I catch a lot of people in Tokujou pulling this stunt with ippatsu for haneman or baiman.

This however does not work with suji traps which are ignored.
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>>15388307
>Rounds
Turns
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>>15386294
Hello /dng/.
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>>15386294
The guy saying in the comments that he would discard a winning kokushi tile just to win on a furiten kokushi 13 is beyond idiotic
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>>15389603
I've definitely considered it. Not that I've had the chance and once I learned it wouldn't count as a double yakuman it seemed pretty pointless.
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>>15389619
Well, if it counted as a double yakuman it would make sense, but it doesn’t! So why would someone do it? Just to say they had a kokushi 13? They didn't
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I got daisuushi earlier this year, but my wait was 5man and south. Having called the other 3 winds.

I was pissed when I saw it come up as a standard yakuman, but no way in fuck would I have let that 5man slip by should it pop up
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>>15389695
I'd probably get greedy and go for tsuuiisou at that point.
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>>15389638
In Tenhou yeah it makes no sense. In a normal game then double yakuman on 38 winning tiles sounds pretty enticing.
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I chose wrongly and could have prevented a tragedy.
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>>15390025
Cut the 2p for a 1-4p Chun tamenmachi.
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>>15390025
>>15390096
Either cutting the 2p or the 4p would have saved me from this.

Still secured second but ugh.
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>>15390025
234pin discard for tenpai, but toimen and kamicha clearly hogging pinzu

Chun is live

234man too close to dora

678pin seem marginally safer.

Honestly speaking, wwd posts are always situations where the player got punished for pushing and everyone rolls in with their hindsight "I totally would have played it safe" comments. I wish folks would post more nuanced settings and recommendations

Toss 4 to max out your points on a bad wait. Get ron'd, tell us about it.
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2:0 lads
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>>15390162
I know he got lucky and drew it right afterwards but 3p is very questionable when you have a better, wider wait available. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to wait on it when you look at everyone else's discards and see none of them have dropped any pinzu except for south.
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Muteki no Hito got "translated".
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016061314gm-0089-0000-2b2971c6&tw=1

Ughhh.
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>>15390196
Fuck I'd probably discard pei
One-suit hands are hard
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>>15390196
>not going closed kan and riichi
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>>15391200
This is probably the /jp/-approved way. I'd probably do it without much thinking.

But I wonder which one is stronger, extra kan dora with possibility of rinshan or 3-side wait with possibility of itsuu. But it's last row so probably the latter.
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>>15391551
Not even a question, going for the ittsuu is the only real choice unless 5m is dead. Higher potential hand value and more winning tiles.
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>>15390196
Why did they leave the Japanese in? Why didn't they translate the tile names? Why didn't they use the kanji for iiwan or sanmen machi? Why didn't they leave discard as 切る?
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>>15390126
Yea, shanpon alone can be shit. For this hand, there's virtually no value in going shanpon. That 1-pin clearly demonstrates that here.
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>>15390473
Unless I was North, I'd cut pei as well. Go for that sweet chinitsu.
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>>15391858
Enjoy ending the game noten or calling to get a hand worth as much as it was closed, if you're lucky.
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>>15391858
>>15391895
>not recognizing a chance for chuuren poutou
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>>15391901
I see one 9m in another player's pond. Your chances for chuuren at that point are basically nilch.
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>>15391839
Either way he would have had the same amount of winning tiles if he had went for 14p instead of shanpon. He was just unlucky.
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>>15392522
No, he chose the worse wait and got punished for it. 1-4p also waits on Chun, for a total of 6 tiles.
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lol
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>S4
>Only needed a mangan to win
>Went for the yakuman anyway

It was dumb but I got it. Riichi and everything.
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>>15391924
>Your chances for chuuren at that point are basically nilch.
Why do you not believe?
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>>15392758
what is this? another IRC?
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>>15393718
It's the Osamuko Discord channel.
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>>15392758
what's the interesting part about that?
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>>15392758
Why did you post this?
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Finally, after 194 games, I score one in tokujou. Also, my suuankou > kamicha's attempt.

>not scoring +100
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i've never been this happy thinking that i lost despite my internet connection basically kicks me out. and for the record i have like 10 matches abandoned because internet says fck you!

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016061415gm-0041-0000-f288a58e&tw=0

although i really didnt care all that much since i didnt play the /jp/ way (fucking internet)
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>>15394965
>i've never been this happy thinking that i lost despite my internet connection basically kicks me out
Are you having a stroke?
Anyway, if winning 5 han hand makes you happy, then you're in for a ride.
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>>15394991
no...but probably because from the last 10 matches (my rating is agonizingly droppped down 200+) has been abandon matches and lets just say im pretty stubborn just wanting to finish one match and that's it
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http://www.ermc2016.com/
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Connection has been shit over the last few days. Keep dropping out.

I can lose on my own thank you very much
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016061501gm-0089-0000-341ca46b&tw=1&ts=8

My luck has been pretty shit lately and my R has been dropping like crazy, but games like these always make my day.
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What would you discard and why?
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>>15397171
9-sou
It's safe because the other guy in riichi kept discarding honour tiles and the other 2 were thrown already so it would be a weird hell wait for a shitty hand.
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>>15397171
None of them are great, but 4m might be your best bet. It's double suji for both riichis, although there's a very real possibility that south could have a 3-4-5 sanshoku.
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>>15397171
4m is double suji, I would throw that. It doesn't look like it'll pass against kamicha though.
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>>15397219
4m is safe against kamicha. It passed 3 turns earlier and his hand hasn't changed since then.
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>>15397171
8m, since it's safe against the kamicha and it would be worse to deal in to him than dealing in to the toimen.
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>>15396753
truly excelent game. i think you risked too much with that honitsu dora 3, but it worked so kudos
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>>15397534
Thanks.

Whenever I'm on a roll, I find it better to push, even if it's risky. It really depends on the situation, but if you just won big, a lot of times the other players will be on guard and more likely to fold against your pushes, specially as a dealer. So if by pushing you get them to fold, it could actually decrease the chances of you dealing in.

Of course, it doesn't always go like that. In that game they kept on pushing all the way, which is why it was so fun. Everyone was going all out.
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>>15397357
This.

South 3. Dealing into 4th isn't as damaging as dealing into 2nd, who'll take you over.
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>>15397171
Are you gonna post how it went or what?
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>>15398130
Why do you lack patience?
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>>15397186
>>15397357
Correct.

>>15397212
>>15397219
>3-4-5 sanshoku
You're good.
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>>15398251
Moral of this story. Suji alone is not enough. Hell, even naka suji alone is not enough. To justify 4-man, you need some help from kabe.
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>>15398251
How'd it end? Did A complete his climb back up from Hell?
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>Dealer double riichi ippatsu
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>>15398281
No, he stayed fourth. D-kun got first. I got hit for nothing.
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>>15398251
Well, I was half right, at least. I am interested in what south's hand looks like.
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would you fold, dama or riichi?
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>>15398918
Fold without question.
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>>15398918
Fold. There's a riichi and dealer with 2 calls including a non seat wind. I'm expecting this to end with you drawing the Pei next turn and dealing in.
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>>15398918
[X] Free sex
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>>15398918
>dropping live chun

Lucky for you, toimen didn't get to go shanpon
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>that great feeling when you get third with you initial 25k because someone was so retarded that busted out in east 2 before you barely even got a chance to play
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>>15398908
Forgot to show the hands.
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>>15398939
the chun was dropped just before the riichi.
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>>15398918
You've got a bad weight with low value. You're second place in oorasu and all the scores are close, so discard 8p. If you're lucky you can safely switch to dama pinfu to go to south round, but if not you should focus on avoiding last.
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>>15399034
>weight
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>>15399034
>You've got a bad weight
Did you just call him fat?
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>>15399045
>>15399056
Whoops, I've been fixing a broken shipping price calculator for work so that must be getting to me.
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>>15398918
Riichi. I would hope I noticed dealer was in tenpai but still decided to push to aim for first. Maybe if I was doing poorly in the last few games I might fold, but I tend to be aggressive and not think too hard in the middle of a round.
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I choked in a game again.
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>>15399404
Akagi would be dissapointed in you
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>>15399404
>>15399688
I just choked too
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Fucking net problems trying to prevent me from winning. Unbelievable.

>>15399404
>>15399688
>>15399772
I probably choked twice last game, too. Didn't believe in chiitoi.

Fucking trash 4-dan probably won the game. I don't know since I lagged out.
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>>15399791
Turns out he's garbage that got up to 6-dan before, fell back down to 4-dan, and started hanging out in joukyu.
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New TnK chapter is out. He did it, absolute madman.
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>>15390196
Isn't 九萬 read as "Chuu-wan?" I've never heard "Kyuu-wan" in the aynimes.
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>>15401448
I've heard the japanese pronounce it as both in various mahjong media, but kyuu-wan is the most prominent as far as I know.
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Are there any streams or something where people play tenhou at a relatively high level and comment on their thought process?
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>>15402687
Can you slightly understand basic Japanese with mouse gesturing?
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>>15402764
Yeah I can understand most japanese and hopefully am capable of understanding mouse gesturing
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>>15402788
http://live.nicovideo.jp/search?keyword=ASAPIN&kind=tags

ASAPIN (the first Tenhoui) has been doing a stream for a while with a new account and has been rising though the ranks again. He's currently at 5 dan in Tokujou and the next stream is tomorrow.

Don't know if you need an account, but you probably do.

https://abemafresh.tv/search/%E3%83%92%E3%83%AB%E3%83%94%E3%83%B3%E3%83%87%E3%82%B9 has a lot of the old streams at horrifying eye-cancer quality.
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>>15402816
Thanks. I have a nico account already of course, although being awake when he's streaming might be a problem. But I guess I can try to handle the shit quality
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>Dealer riichi
>Suji trapped
>3 ura dora for haneman
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>All these Houou players in Tokujou
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What do non-amateurs do?
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>>15403633
and tokujou players in joukyuu, and also a lot of joukyuu players in ippan. it's a mess
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We're at the halfway mark, dudes. Post 'em.
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>>15404211
after a terrible streak i'm finally getting back on track
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>>15404211
I'm pretty satisfied with this so far.
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>>15403633
It can take more than 20 minutes to get a game in houou during Japanese off hours. Even when it's a bit more active than that extreme, I can imagine people queuing in tokujou just so they get a damn game going.

I do wonder what the proportion of 7dan+ players that don't have premium is, though.
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>>15404211
Please send help.
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How do I read waits.
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>>15405019
You don't.

Next question?
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>>15405021
How do other people read waits.
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>>15405027
Like who?
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>>15405033
Like this dude >>15397212
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>>15405027
Jokes aside, wait reading isn't a thing like it is in manga. In real mahjong it's just a process of elimination.
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>>15405037
For what it's worth, my read was on south, not the west player who actually had the sanshoku. I can walk you through what I was thinking, if you like. First of all, I was trying to think of reasons why my preferred tile, 4m, wouldn't pass. It was double suji because 1m and 7m passed, meaning the only other waits we'd have to worry about are closed 4m and shanpon 4m.

If south had a 3m-4m-4m before he riichi'd and were waiting on 4m shanpon, he would have just dealt the 4m for an edge wait. But if he had, for example, an 1-shanten shape with 3m-3m-5m and another edge wait, he could have dealt the 3m and be waiting for closed 4m. The threat of a 4m closed wait is slightly increased because we can't see the red 5m and because of the possiblity of sanshoku. These are both scenarios where you'd want to wait on the 4m instead of shanpon.

So then, is there any hint that south might have a sanshoku in the 3-4-5 vein? His 4th - 6th discards stood out to me. Dropping 1s-2s and then the 3p made me think of this scenario; let's say he has in his hand, before discarding the 1s, this:

1s-2s-3s-4s-5s and 3p-3p-4p. He drops 1s, leaving him with 2s-3s-4s-5s and 3p-3p-4p. 2-3-4 and 3-4-5 sanshoku are still possible. Dropping the 2s next turn leaves him with 3s-4s-5s. Dropping 3p next turn leaves him with 3p-4p. We can't rule out sanshoku because we can't see all four of any one tile in 3-4-5. So after going through all of this in my head, I thought it was very possible for him to have a sanshoku.

In reality, he had nothing like that. Instead, west had all of the tiles for it, and his discards didn't hint at it at all. If reading waits were something you could do reliably then betaori wouldn't exist. All you can do is try to make educated guesses based on what you can/can't see in the pond.
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>>15405208
You're on the right track by imagining the possible hand shapes that fit the discards, but it's far more likely that the 12s penchan and the 3p were isolated tiles rather than parts of a complex shape, especially considering it was still only the fourth turn.

Besides which, discarding 12s from 12345s is effectively the same as discarding 45s in that you lose the 36s ukeire. If he started with 12345s344p, then what other six tiles in his hand would make him want to discard 12s3p without going back shanten, without putting him in tenpai earlier than the 3m discard, and while still keeping the manzu and pinzu shapes from which he discarded 9p and 3m?
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>>15405318
I could easily imagine him doing so if he wanted to build towards a tanyao hand he could call with. You say you think it's more likely they're isolated tiles, but discarding a tatsu from within your hand before an isolated 3p goes against that.
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>>15405333
Go ahead and fill in the rest of his hand in such a way that it makes sense, then. And discarding a penchan before an isolated 3 or 7 is by no means uncommon.
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>>15405353
And doing so will prove what exactly?
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>time for a quick win in the last round
>nope, haneman
I love this tenhou moment.
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>>15406749
Second's always nice too.
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>>15406764
If you ain't first, you're last. The fact that you gain R and such for second be damned.
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>>15406769
Better to be 'last' and gain rate than to be -last- and tank it.
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>>15406885
Getting third when you're in joukyuu is terrible. Most of these guys have R1600 or R1700 so my R takes a heavy hit. At least I keep my points, I guess.
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>>15404211
Started the month 2+2+2+12 and downranked, so all things considered I think the last week has been ok.
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http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv265910732
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>>15407990
What is he seeing on xkime's laptop that's causing him such discomfort?
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>>15383736
That's deep.
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>>15390196
Top kek is this like a second Scam Saki or something?
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>>15408403
>Top kek
Fuck off.
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>>15408435
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>>15404211
Started at 5+4+1+2, and now I haven't won in 11 games and am currently stuck in purgatory, not really losing games, only R and whatever's left of my sanity.
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This was far too close for comfort.
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>furiten
why?
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>>15410468
You're playing the mode with no open tanyao. You need a yaku other than tanyao when you open your hand.
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>>15410468
Invalid winning tile if you're playing kuitan nashi like >>15410505 says.
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20 minutes until the tournament, in case anyone is participating.
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>>15410583
Which tournament? Is there a stream?
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>>15410595
The FKMTkrazy tournament. Apparently there will be a stream unless he has to sub for someone else.
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How do you enter tournament lobbies with the Tenhou client?
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>>15411203
Same way you enter any other lobby.
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Going to hit the auto tables tomorrow. Is that sandiego anon around? Ride to LA county offer is still open
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1:0
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>>15412244
Don't lose too much money
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>>15412244
I'm here. Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to take a rain check this time. Good luck tomorrow!
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I'm a retard, but why does the right side display mostly fine while it shits itself on the left side of the screen? Any way to fix it?
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>>15412727
Applocale
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>>15412735
How do you actually run tenhou with applocale? It seems to me that the only way to actually get tenhou running is to run the shortcut that's created when you install, and my applocale will not run shortcuts in japanese locale. I've had to change my actual system's locale to Japanese in order to get rid of the mojibake.
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>>15412850
Yeah, I'm encountering the same problem. The original .exe is in Appdata and won't run if you launch it from there, it only runs when launched from the shortcut, and applocale doesn't apply on the shortcut, while it also won't run on the original exe.
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>>15383736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzcmCvOM2KY
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>>15383736
it's not too late senpai
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still spots available at the los angeles mahjong dojo

play on some auto tables woo!
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Wouldn't they get no visitors if they played like that?
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>>15415207
There are a few rare jansous in Japan with sakidumo still. The Jansou in LA that Frenetic goes to also uses it
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Went from 6+5+2+2 to 7+7+6+9.

The pain is indescribable.
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>>15415584
If you lose a game, stop - even for like an hour or so. Because the concept of "I'll win the next one" may fuck up your judgement. As a result, you'd end up fucking up more.
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>>15415911
I tend to continue playing under the justification that playing under tilt is the only way to train tilt management. During tournaments or such you can't choose to take a break. Longterm plan. I suppose it helps that I still enjoy the game during terrible streaks.

8+7+6+9 now, for that matter!
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Epi1ZIzfsfBSYvTeq5-DoNlHxTaMrv4HOeKQKctJcY4/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=1023094290


Place your bets
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>>15415207
I like it since clearly the gimmick with this arc is going to revolve around that and the golden tile but realistically yes, I can't imagine why anyone would want to play at a saki tsumo parlor.
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Enjoy your 30+ (and still ongoing) chapters of the Rindonrindon arc tetsunaki no kirinji readers
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>>15416758
After the whole "conquer every parlour" schtick, I did get the feeling the author had set themselves up for rivaling Fukumoto's Washizu arc.
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26+20+20+24 = 90戦

So much mahjong this month
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>>15416976
That'll be the Kiriya vs Kiriya arc
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>>15417104
Isn't that Majin?
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>>15416976
>And so, after beating Lyndon Lydon, Kiriya became the best mahjong player and beat all the other parlours and lived happily forever after
>The end
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>>15417175
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2:0
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Fucking bullshit
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016061918gm-00c1-0000-3ed4debe&tw=0
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What a kusoge.
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>>15423375
Someone got Yagi'd.
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>>15423375
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>Have time for one quick game
>Toimen decides to wait out every single timer on every single call and draw
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>>15423375
>it's an haitei episode
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When will tenhou do an android app?
I can not play on the web based shit on my small tablet.
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>>15383696
can real mages beat lesbians?
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>>15423375
All fucking tournament. Jesus, I've never seen anyone this lucky before.
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>>15423375
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>1:4
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>>15425252
>3:4
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>>15412850
I play with AppLocale just fine. Target the AppLocale to launcher.exe in Program Files folder.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062015gm-0089-0000-d651fcb5&tw=3

Oh, man, my greedy decision in South 1 renchan paid off.
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Hi I am Akagi. Hi am from Japan.

Your mahjong is cute. Many many careless discards. I am in your site for many many games, but I no understando all. Why you do that? What is your favorite yaku you say please?

Sorry for my question. Ron.
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Shouldn't you call riichi precisely because you're in last?
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>>15428894
Against better players, dama can be more effective because they won't let go of winning tiles as easily after someone declares riichi. You can always declare riichi after someone else, too.
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R1396
That's a new low.
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>>15428998
>My better account went to shit this month
>The other one improved a lot

I'm surprised I managed to play this many games in only 20 days, though.
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>>15428998
I've been to R1200 at one point and now I'm in tokujou. Don't let it get to you.
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>3:0
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>0:4
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>>15428894
Wasn't it that she had no points and therefore couldn't riichi?

Terrible subs for a terrible show.
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>>15429246
No, the hand she gets while at 0 points is chankan dora 7 and no other yaku.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062107gm-0089-0000-11976428&tw=3

I regret getting too greedy with the chiitoitsus, but after the shimocha activated their lesbian powers I'm just happy that I didn't get last.
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>>15430760
Why would toimen reset the hand when he was iishanten for Kokushi?
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>>15430826
It was a mistake for sure, but maybe it was a misclick. Maybe he's a new player. Maybe he isn't japanese and clicked the button not knowing what it means. It's hard telling.
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Are you?
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>>15430996
Yes, I always end up in last because of the Tenhou admins.
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>>15430996
I just got a game where it was south 4 and I was in last place with only 4000 points.

I stayed calm and someone dumber than me dealt into a dealer mangan and sunk even lower than me. Getting frustrated would have gotten me a nice last place.
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I play this a lot but almost always place last in every game I play even though I know the rules and combinations.
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>>15431488
That's probably because you lack experience and haven't developed the key skills that will help you execute a winning strategy.
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What would you do in this situation?
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>>15431698
You should prioritize safety against the dealer, so discard 2p. It could be a trap, and it's dangerous against kamicha, but it's better than discarding 47p matagi suji into the dealer.
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>>15431698
Discard 7m, suuankou is 100% guaranteed based on the flow. The other peasants at the table can be ignored.
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>>15431488
welcome to the club of this kusogame

enjoy your stay
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>>15431698
Drop the dora. If I'm gonna deal in, I might as well deal in now. If it passes, my suuankou is all but guaranteed.
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>mfw I haven't won in my last 13 games and 8 of them are 3rd places
I don't understand anymore, it's like I fucking stagnated and suddenly lost my ability to win games.
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>>15432027
I'm right there with ya buddy. Last game, whenever I actually got close to winning a decent hand someone else stole a quick win instead. Maybe I'll just try again next month.
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>>15432128
>Riichi on 3rd turn with a strong ranyamen wait

Things are coming around!

>Sonichas riichi on 7th turn
>Ippatsu

Why is it that retarded risks always seem to work out for these fucks but I can't even discard the 3rd guest wind during riichi without dealing in
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>>15431698
This is pretty difficult. The only thing I will say for sure is we shouldn't give suuankou a single thought. If we push, we riichi. Our hand is expensive, our wait is decent and we're in last place. Given our lack of safe tiles, we might very well end up dealing in anyway, providing further justification.

I feel like I ended up convincing myself that riichi is the way to go, but I would not criticise anyone who would discard 2p, and—honestly—that might very well be what I'd do myself if I was actually presented with the situation. With a bit of luck, the hand can return from that into fighting shape, too.
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>>15432352
Pursuit riichis aren't always seen as risky by other players. Sometimes your hand is so transparent that the other guy figures he's got more chances than you do. It's even worse if he's actually got a feel for the flow. And of course, waiting on a useless honor tile is a basic trap, but you dealing into it is due to your bad luck since you were in riichi. That's shouganai.
What was that strong ryanmen wait by the way?
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>>15433042
2-5 sou, None visible, 8sou in my pond
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>>15431750
>>15431830
Goodbye.

>>15431749
>>15432594
I would've gone with 2p as well, especially since the only possible wait left for dealer would be 2p shanpon. Pretty much anything but the dora. He could've gotten killed instantly if the dealer had 2 more dora, definitely not worth it for this hand.
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>>15433244
Pretty sure those first two were joking.
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>>15434737
I was serious about dropping the dora, that's just how I play. Badly.
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>>15435000
It's okay. You want that suuankou. You're a dreamer, and that's better than most people on other clients. They'll drop the dora in any situation, for much less spectacular hands, like so:

https://pl.sega-mj.com/mj_viewer?B=0001&K=11320&V=6&DI=OfEaMj4TV01NPb&T=250_250_250_250&D=5&S=62&H=wnbgr3rg7h2l9_l4kwjrohf48tb_4ki7guabu6xc3_kn3qdp2mdxy9q&A=trek29y_1_l_k33wmw-xmxjgw_c_z_7_pbfib_ib8hCfg4P1f63v_13c_s_6y9nCopj4_1_8R97_x7u_P2x26~27&Y=11_126580_20100040d10i15w766abc-e621023fgh2223uuu&Z=lvoaoozjtxvy6uf55py0dn1dtvfhh9qrpaemqji8zeg5wzica
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The mahjong gods (or rather kamicha's chi) decided to give you the honor of drawing the haitei tile but you didn't win off of it and now must discard something. What'll it be?
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>>15435608
The only reason you'd ask is because 3p dealt in. You just got unlucky.
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>>15435608
just drop that 3 and get the tenpai reward. that 3p is pretty safe. all 1p are out so no one is in penchan; all the 2p and three 4p are out so there's no possible kanchan neither; and all the 5p are out too so there's no possible 45p ryanmen. also there's two other 3p out so it's not shanpon.
there's still the chance of tanki, and if you're asking this I have to assume that's what happened, but that's a remote possibility and 3p is still safer than any of the other tiles you have. if you dealt in with the 3p it's not your fault, you did right, but we all know that mahjong rewards consistency in making the right decisions and not every single right decision.
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>>15435608
3p has only one wait available, 3p hell wait. Dealing it also lets us keep our tenpai so we don't have to make payments.

There's really no other option that makes sense. 2m is near the dora and there's still a possibility for someone to have a 2m-5m edge wait. 3m is the dora, and 3m-6m edge wait is still possible. For the same reason we don't want to deal 4m-7m.
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>>15435608
3p seems like the best option. What happened?
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Is the IP ban gone or am I just logging in out of pure luck?
I have some locale fuckery in place and I am scared to turn off my computer now.
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>>15435608
3p is safe against kamicha and suji against toimen, also 2p is dead so he can only have pair wait for 3p
Shimocha can't have 45p because all 5p are out and can't have 24p because 2p is dead as well, leaving only pair wait
I doubt you dealt in for more than 3 han
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>>15435645
>>15435657
>>15435669
>>15435929
>>15436028
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>>15436082
Thinking that 2m would be your one and only safe tile would be highly unusual. I don't think you did wrong in this one. Also, 1:0
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>>15436082
Don't let it get to you, that was a fluke. 3p is the correct answer 99.3% of the time.
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>>15436082
it would have been ridiculous to discard 2m in that situation. you did right, it was just bad luck
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>>15436082
You've got to know when to no-ten.
Good hands are nice but when the game is winding down, it's time to make a choice.
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>>15436082
2m is genbutsu to toimen and kamicha and 3 of the 3m are visible so it's not the worst discard. I'd still discard the 3p though.
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2:8
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>shit that only happens in 7447
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>>15436744
how did that end up?
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>>15436744
toimen deals in to a haneman hand
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>>15436914
meant to reply to
>>15436852
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>>15436082
>muh tenpai
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>>15428998
You don't know about Acti, do you?
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>>15383696
3.0
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>>15436852
Tsuiisou was tempting, but ultimately I went for a quick open win. No need for flashy hands when you're already in the lead
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Has a particular suit been good to you?

I tend to get more luck when using manzu than the other ones
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>>15436744
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>>15438448
When you're 1 shanten for a game-changing hand like that on turn 16, you don't back down just because the dealer hasn't dealt a single honor tile and made three calls.
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>>15438483
living the riichi nomi dream
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>>15438546
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>>15438546
Don't you have a game of Washizu mahjong to go lose.
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>>15437579
>7447
>not going for it
Come on mate, you know that's not how it's done.
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It's hard deciding whether to wait for a better wait or to declare a preemptive riichi at times.
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>>15441196
This is ippan so you should call riichi.
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>>15441196
What I would do: Riichi without a second thought.

What would probably be smarter: Wait a turn both to see if you can get a better wait, and to see how shimocha reacts to the pei, because that has the signs of a hon itsu. But you're in ippan, so hell, they might just throw the dora without a care in the world.
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>2:0
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>>15441196
instariichi. defending agaist a 3rd turn riichi is almost impossible and most players in ippan don't seem to even know defense exists, so you can expect them to push and discard whatever
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>>15439795
>Go for obvious open yakuman
>Tanyao-only win from another player

The reward for greed is always kusoge.
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>>15441235
>>15441239
>>15441563

Yeah, that's what I did, but it ended poorly.

Still won, though. Can you believe shimocha had two dealer haneman and still came in second?
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>>15442096
at least you didn't deal in. shimocha is a retard. that 5p discard is weak as hell
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Manzu got 4 tiles but I decided to go with 6p to eliminate kanchan.

wwyd?
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>>15442368
5m. Discarding 6p gets rid of your 1 shanten, so it's not a good choice. Aim for 6-7-8 sanshoku if possible.
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>>15442271
And shimocha could've easily discarded 4p. But that's ippan for you.
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>>15442368
discard 5m and open
>>15441196
just do it pussy
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>>15443573

See
>>15442096
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How often do you guys get ± 0?

(ragequitting midway doesn't count)
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>>15442368

Cut 3s. From there: If I can call to get tenpai, do so. If I draw 5m, 8m, or 3p, cut 6p. If I draw 5s, cut 8s. If I draw 4s, cut 8m. If I get tenpai, damaten until I can improve the wait, then riichi, unless the situation doesn't favor that (because of other riichis or because it's very late in the round.)
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>>15444887
You like playing with fire, I see.
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Eventually, I ended up taking 2nd by raping the shit out of kamicha.
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>>15445219
OMG replay pls

that 3m was dangerous, but there was no way to think it was that dangerous
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>>15445219
So is there no triple ron abortive draw in Tenhou? That's lame.
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>>15445739
There is, I've had it happen to me twice..
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>>15445764
>A woman has three holes you can RON_
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>>15445727
>OMG replay pls
Here you go:

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062418gm-0029-0000-ebb3feb6&tw=2&ts=3
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>it's an "all my riichi get pushed trough no matter how good the wait" episode
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Pretty magical.
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>Played 88 games this month

Holy shit, I don't remember the last time I played this much.
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>>15450095
This was the last game. It was an intense ending. Won thanks to the tenpai payment.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062602gm-0089-0000-f1f4e884&tw=2&ts=12
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>>15449907
What's your lesbian superpower?
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>>15450095
Get on my level, son.
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>Play up to s1
>1st, modest 5k lead over 2nd
>Get a phone call, have to run out and handle a situation immediately
>Hit all the auto buttons at the bottom of the screen and run out.

>Come back an hour later, finished second
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>>15452062
Just FYI, those auto buttons only apply for the current round, so if you want to be considerate you should just disconnect.
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>>15451547
Good question.

Judging from the three games shown, it's making slow, huge hands that tend to be tsumo, have ippatsu, or have ura-dora.



http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062501gm-0009-0000-a8700437&tw=0

^ Played like shit, got huge tsumos.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062511gm-0009-0000-ec272a27&tw=1

^ What happened should not have happened. "M-muh tenpai" and "not even close to tenpai so I'm going to discard this haku" occurred.

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062602gm-0009-0000-bcbc6fa0&tw=1

^ "Only" mangan and haneman tsumo, but they were quick so I'm not complaining.

---
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062600gm-0009-0000-f54e588a&tw=3

^ Would have won the +12 game, too, but I didn't believe in drawing the shaa twice in a row.
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2:0 bros
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3:0
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How do I read if my opponents are going for honitsu? Everytime they make a fanpai call and the first 10 or so tiles of their pond are missing a suit, I assume they're going for honitsu and avoid dealing tiles of that type which often screws my hand over. When I look at the replays though, more than half the time they weren't going for honitsu in the first place.
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>>15453123
Simple fanpai calls aren't enough. Otakaze pons or terminal chiis are often better indicators. Honitsu isn't that common to begin with though, so you shouldn't worry too much about it.
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i'm at a mcr tourney. i went here because it's the closest thing i cam get to a real game iny regon
all people are old
when i proposed a riichi game during lunch break they complain saying riichi is more luck based than fucking mcr
they said it's boringg

i'm seriously regretting not bein on tenhou today
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>>15453327
How is riichi is more luck based than MCR?
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>>15453339
they say closed hand require mors luck
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>>15452272
Speaking of auto buttons, if you turn on both the auto discard and auto win, and you draw your winning tile, do you tsumo or do you discard it?
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>>15453466
Tsumo will take priority. I'm not too sure what happens in the case of a kan, though.
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>It's a "your perfect gyakuten hand and yakuman chance is squandered because the NoName quit after dealing in in East 2nd" episode
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>>15456178
Where was the last 3m? It could have been fruitless either way.
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>>15456215
It was still in the wall
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I have no idea what I am doing so I bought Mahjong Pretty Girls Battle on steam for $1 so I can practice

I can feel myself getting better already!
And by getting better, I mean I finally figured out how to yaku
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>>15456357
Gamedesign flash is free and has more or less proper yaku names instead of this garbage
For example, Ippatsu in this game is "first turn win"
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>>15456556
Gamedesign doesn't have that sweet 1.5x slam bonus for having the b-ball 1 pin in your hand, though. It doesn't let you all-runs it from downtown. In this game, you either pick win or you pick lose.
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>>15456556
Dude I need cute girls to play with
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>>15456556
>not playing with the boobies
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>>15457338
It gets old pretty fast
They're not even animated
Guess Senran Kagura spoiled me
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>>15456556
>1.5 slam
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>>15456556
what the hell does that "x1.5 slam" mean?

that game is such shit. the AI sucks hard and not being able to see the full table at once is retarded
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Fuck you Ippan. Fuck you.
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>>15459319
So people really do riichi their yakuman hands, huh.
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>>15459339
always
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>>15459319
And he got out of 4th thanks to your help. At least the disconnecting one got punished.
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>>15459317
I'm not sure why slam, but 1.5 is dealer bonus
Call is riichi, dubs are han
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>>15460420
>>15459317

I think slam = Mangan

1.5 slam is a haneman.
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>>15460441
Oh, that makes sense too
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>tfw no grand slam
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062811gm-0029-0000-4cf6935f&tw=0&ts=8

Fuck you triple ron. I was supposed to win here.
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>>15460528
>haven't even played 10 games
>expect yakuman
Now go. Touch those sluts.
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hi friends , im still fairly new to mahjong but today i get a sanbaiman !
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>>15460945
What game is this?
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>>15460957
its mahjong dude lol
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>>15460957
Looks to be some defunct client called MahjongHime
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>>15461111
Big Winds is 2, suuankou tanki is 2, and tsuuiisou is another one. Which one am I missing? Or am I totally off?
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>>15461111
Daisuushii 2
Suuankou 1 (Even though it's Tanki)
Tsuuiisou 1
Paarenchan 1
Tenhou 1
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>>15461140
meant for
>>15461129
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holy shit, thank you based MJ SEGAgods

my luck let me go +150 or so in the Saikyosen cup
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>>15461154
Congrats. I managed to do pretty well too. The Akagi background is nice.
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>>15461154
>>15461164
>Saikyosen cup

Damn, I missed out.
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>>15461164
The requirement for the Akagi background is like 20 games, right?

I barely got through 8 before running out of my chips and event tickets, but now that I've got a bunch, I think I can go for the green background in the B Cup and maybe do well enough again to replace the chips wasted trying to get Akagi

>>15461173
There's going to be a B cup held on the 11th through the 17th of next month, so you haven't missed out completely
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>>15461173
There's a second round coming up, so you'll have a chance.

>>15461181
Yes, playing 20 games in A or B of either mode will give you the background when it pays out rank rewards. Oddly different from the other 'play X games' prizes because it didn't pay out immediately upon fulfilling the conditions, but oh well.
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>shit that only happens in oorasu
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This is more convenient to North Americans, particularly West Coasters.

http://pacificml.com/tournaments/pml-riichi-mahjong-open-2016

12 auto tables. 48 player cap. Do the math.
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>>15461313
I guess this is an incentive for me to stop being a NEET. San Diego to SF isn't too costly.
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and this is why you don't call kans that do nothing for you
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>>15461373
btw, kamicha called that kan after the two riichis were declared
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062818gm-0089-0000-8be3280e&tw=0

> I'm dead last
>dealer declared riichi
>I'm chasing after kokushi musou with zero progress after starting with 9
>time to push
>deals into dealer haneman

I hope he learned his lesson, but it cost me first place.
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Maybe he had auto-discard on...?
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Hooray, a new milestone. Can't wait to lose it the next time I play!
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>>15461581
I've even seen a 6-dan do the exact same thing. The auto discard button is something that should only be used sparingly, if at all.
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>>15461585
And here I thought I could be happy reaching 3dan within 106 games.
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>>15383696
2.0
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>>15461111
wrong , the game is called momoiro taisen pairon. it's the go-to mahjong client for neets.
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>>15462038
My bad, it seems that MahjongHime was an attempted English localized version of Pairon that died a few years back.
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>>15461581
maybe he didn't want to make his wait too obvious? weird reasoning, but i'm trying to guess
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As a fucking loser that only knows relatively basic Japanese. Anyone have any idea why tenhou is not letting me play and requiring I go to their website to register and pay money?
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>>15463121
Alright I did some more looking around and turns out you can't play in the client anymore if you're a free user (above 6級). Which is weird because I don't remember this being a thing and it is a shame I not only lost my old ID (therefore my rank) but I can't even use the client anymore.
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>>15463165
There's a crack for the client.
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http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2016062907gm-0089-0000-a2afb03f&tw=0

Was I too passive by folding too often in the multiple S3 rounds? Getting second here felt terrible.
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>>15464119
No, I think folding is the right move there, and I wouldn't feel bad about second. Second is still a placement that benefits you positively.

One thing I did notice is that you tend to keep number tiles that don't actually improve the number of useful draws you can get. For example, keeping 8m and discarding 8p in South 3 0 Honba. You lose the ability to accept 7p, 3m and 4m, which would put you into tenpai. Or, in South 3 1 Honba, keeping 8m when you're 1 shanten (in this situation, rather than hang onto that, I would have discarded it upon drawing the safer Xia).

If you keep a safe, or mostly safe, tile in your hand as your dedicated overflow tile, you'll find yourself in less situations where your only options are to push with a risky tile or fold, making it a useful tactic offensively and defensively. I'd keep it in mind for situations like this, where we have a leftover tile that doesn't benefit the hand in any real way (8m).
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>>15464290
>Akagi deals into my ryanpeikou baiman and also deals into the Shimocha's riichi sanshoku for a 23,700 point double ron
>Loses a perfect amount of points to leave him alive at exactly zero for East 4th

Holy fuck, this game
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>>15465286
Didn't mean to reply, my bad!
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