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Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

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Visual Novel translation status


Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1637/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (74.8%)"
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 52789/64880 (81.36%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
>Clover Day's - Common + 3 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB and 74/722 KB translated
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route + 25% common route translated
Hoka no Onna - 84.88% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 4301/50663 (8%) lines translated
Junketsu Megami-Sama - prologue patch released
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
>Koiken Otome - 100% translated and edited, 90.20% QC, prologue patch released
Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 9% (3657/42627) lines translated
>Kurukuru Fanatic - 100% translated, UI + Wordwrapping done
Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
>Majikoi A-1 - 89.5%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, new partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 212/268 through TLC+Editing, 154/268 scripts finalized
SakuSaku - 100% through TLC
Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 9,926 / 30,513 Lines (32.5%) translated, partial patch released
Tokyo Necro - 1010/39657 lines translated
>Tsui Yuri - 32% (1869/5872) lines translated
>Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou - 9531/31248 (30%) translated
>Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 3,426/67,201 (5.10%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
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Official work

MangaGamer
>My Boss Wife is My Ex - Released
Higurashi Hou -Tatarigoroshi: 6/24 release
Umineko - Ch 1-4 July 8th release
Bokuten - 100% translated, 73.5% edited
Da Capo 3 - 94.7% translated, 91.3% edited
Myth - in scripting
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, CH1 70% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Negai no Kakera - 100% translated
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 50% translated, 22.2% edited
Imouto Paradise 2 - 46% translated, 14.4% edited
Kyonyuu Fantasy - 100% TL+Edited, in scripting
Fata morgana fan disc - 10% translated


JAST
>Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder, script edit 20%
Django - Waiting on translation.
>Flowers - Re-write/editing 40%, Beta 10%
>Sonicomi - debugging, testing, tweaking
Sweet Home - 100% translated, debugging script
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%


Sekai/Denpa
>Clannad Side Stories - Released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title 100% translated, 3rd 35% translated
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in TLC
>WEE 3 - 93.30% translated
Nenokami - 99.79% translated, Indiegogo started
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 100% translated
Darekoi - 78.75% translated
>Maitetsu - 15.70% translated
>Memory's Dogma - 55.03% translated
>2236 A.D. - 53.79% translated
>Koi to, Guitar to, Aoi Sora. - 54.14% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - 100% translated, engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo - 100% translated, engine work
Chrono Clock - 10%
Tenshin Ranman - 16%
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Hoshizora no Memoria - picked up
Ley Line - picked up


Frontwing
Corona Blossom - IGG project started
Sharin no Kuni - Kickstarter planned


Visual Arts
>Clannad Side Stories - Released
Tomoyo After - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Rewrite+ - Picked up
Angel Beats - 50% translated


Other
Zero Time Dilemma - Jun 28th release
Psycho-Pass: Mandatory Happiness - 9/13 release
Muv Luv Trilogy - Extra+Unlimited this Summer
Schwarzesmarken - on Greenlight
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 100% translated, in editing
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Common + 25% of Mari route translated
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
ChuSinGura 46+1 - 2nd Kickstarter up
Steins;Gate 0 - 2016 release
Taisho Alice - Picked up
>Love Sweets - Picked up
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
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So it would seem that mangagamer's website must have a hard limit(5) on the amount of new products that can be displayed in the coming soon section of a catalog, as to get around the problem of no one being able to buy the haruka wallscroll/wallscroll+LE outside of those blog links, they've added a rather clunky fix consisting of a show more link that links to http://www.mangagamer.com/product_list.php?goods_type=3&opt=cmsn. Oh mangagamer, you and your ghetto-ass website.

Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/hSVNFjet
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/rtWN2sxF
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/R97Y23GT

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.
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>>15346638
>Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1637/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (74.8%)"

Is this ever going to finish?
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>>15346921

Give it a decade or so.
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>>15347032
That's a long time, what if I die?
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Friends I'm gonna predict the future and say 聖鍵遣いの命題 is gonna be announced for localization. Probably by Sekai Project.

Check out how the game looks, the story synopsis and the reviews. Perfect mix of of hastily-made game with EOP appeal to make "mad money" on Steam while it's still possible.

Reference reviews and tag comments:
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=22863

>どんな選択肢を選ぼうが行きつく先は同じです。回想にヒロインのHシーンが追加されるかどうかだけ
>選択肢はあるが意味はない
>ある意味長いね。だって個別ないようなものだもの。
>RPGゲーをそのまま文章に起こしたような内容。

Short summary in English:
>LN-like artstyle (pretty good one actually)
>premise like from a generic fantasy battle harem LN with an anime adaptation
>writing like from an anime JPRG
>H scenes as unlockable extras (=game is easily keckable for Steam release)
>short, choices don't matter, meaning ADD Steam users might actually finish it

Seems like writing is on the wall.
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>>15347209
It does sound completely like it's trying to go for the LN feel, just in VN form. Tribute or stealth parody?
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>>15347304
More likely a conscious effort to aim for that audience.

Honestly it would even be a servicable and enjoyable game if they didn't fuck it up like the reviews mention. Makes me believe they'll rely on other source of cash - clueless Steam gamers.
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I wholly recommend Fata Morgana. Reading it was such a joy.
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>>15347394

I don't even know what you're waiting for anymore.
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The ChuSinGura finished, getting only a mere 6% of it's goal. Remains to be seen if they show up to take a parting shot for people not supporting their poorly done project, but otherwise, doubt they try to do anything else under Japan Contents, though they are likely to try again under a third name with something else, provided they didn't lose enough with their first 2 efforts to make it no longer viable.
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>>15347541
>it's
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>>15346638
Only SP's release in pic, even though MG has also released a game this week. Hi dovac.
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Wonder what IG thinks about jast now that they're 6 months past the fall 2015 date they said they could have flowers out by
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>>15347590

That Flowers possibly won't bomb like their games did with MG?
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>>15347607
Yuri can't bomb in this 2016 era. It'll attract the tumblr lesbians and someone else will make a petition for a flowers anime.
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>>15347590
Ironically, it would probably be out by now if they did give it to MG. Maria was salivating over the chance to translate it, after all.
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>>15347607
I don't think a JAST game ever failed in in terms of sales.
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>>15347209
A fantasy battle harem LN with voices and music is exactly the type of thing that I want. Going to check it out later today. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
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>>15347667
I don't think a JAST game ever got released until their preorders guaranteed a profit.
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>>15347668
Yeah, I'd be up for it too, but it doesn't seem done well.
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>>15347682
well, it's not like you got tons of other VNs translated into english
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>>15347696
This one isn't either, I thought I made it obvious in my post.
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>>15347682
Well, my standards aren't too high so hopefully it's still fun.
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>>15347590
Pretty sure they don't give a fuck about the western market, they don't even bother to retweet Jast or MG tweets about their titles.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dharkerstudio/the-bounce-visual-novel-series/

In addition to the original game (Beach Bounce) and its first sequel (Beauty Bounce). Its getting another five sequels beyond that. Its like some kind of malignant tumor now.
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>>15347885
This has to be some kind of money laundering scam at this point.
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>>15347669
JAST stealth-released some dating nukige w/out preorders once, I believe.
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>>15347885
That is because they know the market.

- Free patch / same price on all-ages and adult content? Wow, exactly how it should be. Now which Japanese company has this figured out? Maybe Mikandi, not so sure about any others.
- A group of girls. I still don't understand the gamble with making 1-2 girl VNs that will only sell if your customers liked their design.
- Not rape/mind-crushing focused.

It would be better with localized titles following that pattern. But you can only buy what is being produced.
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>>15347551
>Only SP's release in pic, even though MG has also released a game this week. Hi dovac.
MG's release was a non-notable nukige. It's plenty common for them not to be featured, even when there's not even another release that week (and the image is just a project in progress).
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>>15347607
Yuri and Steam means it could sell like Kindred Spirits did for MG. We'll see how many people are interested in an all-ages episodic yuri VN this time.
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I wonder how MG feels about the Steam market now. They put games on Steam to make more sales, but now companies that sell well on Steam are starting to want to cut them out of the deals. Not to mention their sales on Steam have started tanking for story vns. And the Steam forums are a cesspool, where if you don't let people do whatever they want, they complain that you're Totalitarian. I think they're even worse than the MG forums ever were.
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Apparently Aroduc's translating France Shoujo.
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Apparently Conjueror's translating Dies Irae.
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>>15347885
I'm not even angry anymore. Only pity.
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Apparently No Name Losers are back.
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>>15348595
Don't most of their former members work for MG? In that case they never really left.
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>>15347667
What about their old as fuck VNs? We're talking shit from the DOS-era.
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>>15347885
Why are all the most shitty OELVN devs from the UK? First Winged Cloud and now AJTilley.
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>>15348650
The bigger question is why do OELVNs sell on Steam so much better then regular VNs ?
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>>15348733
Cheap prices and the most stupid of consumers. Weebs take one look at Sakura and think it's a Japanese game. I don't know about AJTilley. tumblr? The art is hideous and they all have the tumblr nose thing going on. I don't know how that one got popular.
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>>15348775
>I don't know how that one got popular.
Free porn patches and weeb bait. Sword of Asumi and Divine Slice of Life were full on weeb.
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>>15348826
>Divine Slice of Life

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kirito/divine-slice-of-life

So how many kickstarters does this faggot have?
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>>15348847

Every single game he's made.
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>>15348733
Because they know their audience and they know how to market it in their tumblrina circles.
Japs don't know how to market VNs in the west. Hell, even SP and MG barely marketed Root Double and Fata Morgana respectively.
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>>15348733

Most don't.
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>>15348847
>Creator; KiritoKun
Autist detected.
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>>15348826
Yes it is that simple. You release games the way fans want them, and you sell. Because buying PC VN is almost entirely politics these days.

You are not catering and listening to fans? Well piracy will solve that. If you want to sell, you have to adapt to customer demands.
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>>15348899
Translating Japanese VNs is alot trickier though. They can be much longer and have professional voice acting so they'll be expensive by Steam standards. And Japanese companies are very risk adverse and might not listen to the publisher's suggestions.
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>>15348895
He has to be an autist to have this schedule:

Mar-2017: Bunny Bounce
Jun-2017: Bare Bounce
Aug-2017: Baking Bounce
Oct-2017: Bass Bounce
Dec-2017: Blizzard Bounce
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>>15348847
If you click his profile you can see that it says 3.
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>>15349038
He has kickstarters under different names.
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>>15349164
Why del? /jp/ allows ASCII.
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>>15349255
Maybe new people don't understand /jp/'s love of text art and irony. Was issued a warning for off-topic posts. I guess they didn't know the guy in the twitter post is a English to Japanese VN translator.
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>>15350042
I meant Japanese to English translator. Goddamn.
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Sad times. https://twitter.com/HijackedCat/status/739480803718123521 mg needs to improve their brand awareness
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>>15350042
Someone blogging isn't really related to VNs, or their translation.
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>>15350482
Pity because I like talking about dovac's cancer coughs.
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>>15350471
>I know Sekai Project localised one called Kindred Spirits
How dumb can one be? Jesus christ
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>>15350471

To be fair this happens with pretty much everyone. A lot of people seem to think MG is doing Maitetsu because they keep asking us about TL status.
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>>15350594
Why isn't Doddler responding to questions anymore?
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>>15350594
Do you just tell them all that Sekai's doing it and direct them to the project status page on your blog?
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>>15350722

Probably too busy to hang out on 4chan right now.
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>>15350744
Thanks for repeating me. Going to answer the question?
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What's your favorite VNOTY and why is it Fata Morgana?
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>>15350754
What? You aren't making sense.
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>>15350779
Your family tree must be rich in biodiversity.
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>>15350805
The answer is literally given to you: that he's too busy to answer questions. And you say that's repeating your question?
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What's with all this disney shit lately? When are the REAL DEAL VNs going to get translated?
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>>15350815
Literally you.
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>>15350858
Screw that. What we really need is more comedy moege.
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>>15350858
What are some examples of real deal visual novels?
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>>15351262
Sakura Dungeon
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>>15350858
>REAL DEAL VNs going to get translated
People don't want these kinds of VNs. They only want fluffy moege and loads of sex.
Time to learn japanese anon.
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>>15350858
But Fata Morgana was released last month.
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>>15350858
We got three of those this year
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>>15351400

wow, three in a whole year?

let me get out the party streamers.
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>>15351473
Party streamers for that? You're surprisingly easily pleased.
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>>15351473
The year has just started
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>>15351537

The year is halfway over.
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>>15350722

Would you want to go on a board like /jp/ when you're on probation?
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>>15350471

How do you even find shit like this anonymous?
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With MG getting more and more publishers to cooperate with them, is it even worth it to even learn Japanese anymore?
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>>15352777
Learning a new language is always fun. But if you mean "to read Japanese interactive porn books" then no.
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>>15352777
Yes. They may be getting publishers but they're all shit and can only chug out maybe 1 or 2 game from them each year. Look at their partnership with propeller. They decided to go with no name TB and then the no name pygmalion instead of the better ayakashibito/etc and even asairo.

And then look at alicesoft and how they had to do BBH and not rance like everybody wanted.

the english VN scene right now is a gachapon where there's stuff good stuff available but all you get is shit.

A "good" moege hasn't even come out yet from anybody.
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>>15353455
>moege
>good
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>>15353464
moogy様 says parfait is a good moege
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>>15353455
>no name pygmalion
I'll be laughing my ass off seeing Pygmailon completely outsell TB. Guess what, Evolimit, Ayakashibito and Bullet Butlers are also no name VNs to most that even bother to buy VNs. I wonder what kind of reasoning you're having to think those VNs would sell better. Simply some name recognition in the VN community? If that's the case, you should understand by now that unless that VN has a HUGE name behind it, it won't sell much.

I'm not so sure about Asairo and SukiMa given their different natures though.
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>>15353882
>HUGE name behind it, it won't sell much.
Well, let me correct myself. Having a big name is what seals the deal in some cases but if a VN similar to PE gets the same type of attention because of a youtuber it'll almost certainly be success. And moeges sell better than more serious VNs.
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>>15353455
>A "good" moege hasn't even come out yet from anybody.

Can you guess why?
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Is this the dark age for visual novels? Zero seriously discussion everywhere.

/vn/ is garbage.

Boring and repetitive circlejerks on reddit.
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>>15354859
Everyone is learning Japanese. See you on the other side.
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>>15354859
>Is this the dark age for visual novels?
Read some of the 97% that aren't translated before forming judgements
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>>15354911
But they are all shit. All kamige are translated
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>>15354371
We're all waiting for the no name lolige Himawari. Heh, it'll most likely ne a rather boring moege
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>>15354986
It's a sci fi story game, so expect it to be serious and thought-provoking.
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>>15354962
Like SubaHibi?
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>>15353464

Huh, it's been awhile since bamboo's really been visible on the english side.

Fire up your crazy speculation /jp/, why is he at AX?
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>>15355163
One of MG's new partners could be LevoL.
https://vndb.org/p4837
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>>15355163
One of the new partner's is probably his other company, LevoL. Which would mean this.

https://vndb.org/v16342
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>>15355163
I hope he shows up in this outfit or one equally outrageous.
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>>15352777
Yes, the point of learning Japanese is to tell other translators that their translations sucks. It's the /jp/ way.
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>>15355386
EOPs do that too. Some people say that the Clannad fan TL was better than the Sekai Project release, despite the fan TL being a mess.
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>>15355401
As far as I know most people just said it is the same thing, but the easy words rewritten and the difficult ones still wrong.
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What do you think of this one https://vndb.org/v18145 ?
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>>15355944
Looks good. I'm a big fan of historical games, so this is right up my alley. It's probably too new to get translated anytime soon though.
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>>15355404
That was only people here that bought into a pre-release narrative and just assumed it was true.
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>>15350763
Not like there was anything else amazing released
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Man I'm so close to the Koiken Otome day
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>>15356759
If you're so desperate to read a machine translation, you can fire up Google Translate right now.
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>>15356832
^
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>>15356938
^_^
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>>15355944
>>15355976
Actually, Aroduc just sent me a skype message that he's translating it now. Expect it to be finished within 2 months.
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>>15357098
I'm so glad he could time out of translating Baldr Force to translate this.
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How /jp/ feel that sekai hires feminists for qa https://twitter.com/SpaceDoctorPhD/status/739972080750465024
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>>15357186
Considering dovac's hate for porn, its par for the course.
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>>15357101
Baldr Force isn't that long.
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>>15346638

>SubaHibi - Official release planned

Maybe when my kids are 30 I will finally see this release.
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>>15357186
He has some nice flowing hair there
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>>15357186

I'm pretty sure peak rage regarding SP was hit long ago. I don't think a lowly QA hire will really change anything.
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>>15357273
You mean when your wife's kids are 30?
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Apparently Aroduc's translating https://vndb.org/v14556
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>>15357396
My dad works with Aroduc and he said it was Venus Blood.
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>>15357186
Just another reason not to work for them.
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>>15358793
Or give them money.
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The new Sekai Project survey is long, 30+ pages. No license requests or developer requests, though pretty much asks everything else. Several questions about 18+ releases, and they directly ask about Jast, MG, and Nutaku.

They also made you rank things in order on a few questions, one had you rank your interest of 12 upcoming titles, which is a bit of a pain that you can't just give half the list "don't care at all".
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>>15358908
I just picked the titles I actually had interest in and then clicked random numbers for everything else.

>What is your primary daily function?
Doesn't even have a NEET option. They clearly don't want accurate results.
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https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/740026401357582340
Is Steam dying so bad that Sekai is about to jump ship?
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>>15359573
Really strange leap of logic. Steam hasn't been dying for their titles and there are plenty of reasons to want to have your own online store.
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>>15359573
I'd think it's more to have a place to sell physical stuff, and developing a storefront helps keep Japanese developers from going off to do their own thing because you offer more than just putting a title on Steam
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>>15358908
That was a wonderful survey. I got to totally diss Nutaku as the trash it is, and point out that sekai is barely better.

Now if they follow my 3 steps to improvement, I would say Sekai is the best. Will be fun since the most important point was uncensored maitetsu.
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They updated Corona Blossom with an FAQ, a couple things from it.

>Patch distribution:
>The 18+ patch will be downloadable directly from Frontwing.
>It may also be available through other channels.


So they are going to have their own distribution platform/store front for 18+ releases/patches (in addition to anywhere else they end up including)

>About DRM:
>The digital version of Corona Blossom Vol.1 will be delivered through Steam, and all limitations of that platform apply.
>Furthermore, the physical package, as well as the retail version which will be sold in Japan, have a form of DRM included.

Good luck crowdfunding with that. Honestly though, the demand isn't there for Corona Blossom in general to get them to reverse that, but it's probably quite relevant if they plan to do the same for Sharin no Kuni.
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>>15360341
Sharin no Kuni's an old title though, so they might not feel as inclined with the DRM.
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XSeed picked up Fate/Extella
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>>15360476
Though likely an issue for when they get around to doing an Island kickstarter.
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>>15346638
Why would anyone even want to read VNs translated to English, or even worse, translated by fans who aren't remotely proficient enough in either English or Japanese to produce anything that isn't an insult to the original work?

By the way, drop the trip you insufferable faggot.
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>>15360537
Is Shirou in it ? I really hope not, I hate Shirou so much that I couldn't even finish Fate/stay night because of it.
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>>15350042
Translator or "translator"?
Does he translate for publishers and companies who demand a consistently reliable translation, does he "translate" for video game companies, which have next to no quality control or does he become a maverick with Google translate and break out fan translations?
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>>15360341
>Hard copy drm
But why?
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>>15359573
It will be a success like that time they tried to crowd fund on their own.
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>>15360632
Archer is in it, since it's based of of Extra Shirou probably won't be in it it but we might have one of those servants from Grand/Order that are basically Shirou but not quite Archer.
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>>15360751
I'd assume that the Steam + patch version will be pirated before anyone even receives their hard copy.
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Remember when a bunch of cocksucking assholes did a countdown and then canceled it because they can't even get that right?
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>>15355163
I wouldn't be surprised if he announced the LevoL title, or another Go Go Nippon type cash in for Steam. I doubt he needed much motivation to come over though, he always seemed to love AX.
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>>15360537

CCC translation where?
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>>15355163
He's still one of MG bosses, so it doesn't have to be new license. Maybe he just wanted to hang out with EN staff.
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>>15363348
Even without anything to announce, he can always talk about Bokuten since that release is upcoming, and if negotiations are done, how much they got away with for the Steam release of it.
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Sekai Project is Sakura Dungeon's publisher? I thought that they had parted ways with Sekai Project.
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>>15363874
Sekai workers said Winged Cloud's VNs were shit (truer words have never been said) which hurt Winged Cloud's dev's feeling so he jumped to MG. Afterwards MG, out of the good of their hearts, tried to fix the shitty as fuck grammar that is in the Sakura series. This also hurt said faggot's feelings. With nowhere else to go but back to Sekai (Peter Payne, like /jp/, is a weeb and wholly uninterested in OELVN trash), Winged Cloud decided to go back to the original publisher so they can both be shitty together.
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>>15348115
it's ok they have good nukige now so I don't care about all ages shit on steam
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>>15348115
With regards to story titles, while there surely has been some decline on Steam, I think a large part is the specific titles they started releasing. Liarsoft, Propeller, and Novectacle don't have nearly the appeal that moege, their yuri titles and Higurashi do. That said, they have Umineko coming up which should do very well for them on Steam, and Supipara not too far away to reverse the tide.

As to the Japanese companies cutting them out, that was likely as soon as the Western market showed signs of life. Going forward though, they should still thrive in their niche of nukige and other 18+ only releases as that is much harder to replace for the companies that release titles that can't readily have a Steam version made. They also should still be able to get moege and other titles which can have a Steam/18+ release for a while, as most companies are not doing their own thing yet, any many trying to do their own thing won't be able make that strategy successful, with results like Japan Contents. Mangagamer is also in a good position to make deals to distribute the 18+ version of titles that Japanese companies are putting onto Steam themselves, though Nutaku might end up stealing a lot of that market if their store is successful.
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>>15364872
It's a mixed feeling really, seeing Moonstone break off to do their own thing and more VN companies coming forward to handle it themselves instead of relying on a third-party like JAST and MangaGamer is great for getting even more VNs out faster, but the lack of quality assurance means that every release could be a poorly translated cash-grab like Debonosu.

At least with current MangaGamer (and JAST barring Flower), if they release something, I can rest easy knowing that it wouldn't be KonoSora-tier.
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>>15364872
Higurashi and Umineko are some of the few famous VNs that MG has licensed, so of course they'd sell well.

Your average story title isn't going to be a hit on Steam. Moege will sell very well, but Steam has also softened recently, and any title that comes after likely won't reach Princess Evangile numbers. If publishers start pumping out countless moege that will also saturate the market, which is what the Japanese devs will probably end up doing.

I'm not convinced that Supipara will be a success. It's all-ages only, episodic, and currently incomplete even in Japan. Why would people buy into a series that might take years to be finished?
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>>15364202
If Peter Payne is a weeb, then where are my fucking honorifics?
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>>15365352
Yeah, if every Japanese company wanting to get involved with the market was on par with the effort Frontwing is putting forth, everything would be great. But we are far more likely to get projects like KonoSora, early MG, and current Debonosu Works fror any given project.
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>>15364872
The decline on Steam is because of the exact same reason as the decline of anime on TV in the 90s.

Oversaturation of crap (with inflated reviews/advertisement/etc.), reducing interest because it creates the perception that it's all crap to people just trying out the medium. SP flooding Steam with OELVNs have literally been murdering everything for short-term profits.

It will never recover, just like anime never became super-popular again.
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>>15366142
I don't trust FW all that much either. Some random guy tells them he translated the Michiru fandisc and they just buy his translation, no questions asked.
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Reminder that Sekai ruined VNs in the west with Winged Cloud and Sakura.
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>>15366174
>It will never recover, just like anime never became super-popular again.
>>15366196
>Reminder that Sekai ruined VNs in the west with Winged Cloud and Sakura.

Only EOPs care.
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>>15366201
No shit. This is the English VN translation thread.
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>>15366191
Yuukan was done well. But that's a 30 minute game. I suppose we'll see with Corona Blossom if their internal translations are good.
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>>15366191
I trust Frontwing to not put out Debonosu Works level crap, I wouldn't expect them to regularly be on MG's level though.
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>>15366174
It's far more than just SP, but yeah, the flood of OELVNs is doing no favors for the potential market.
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>>15366291

Beyond that, the sheer amount of shit of all varieties on Steam is doing no one any favors
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>it's an aesthetically appalling fuwanovel copy/paste without any of the sorting features
Is there a point to this thread at all in 2016?
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>>15366640
No, and that's why you should leave. Bye-bi~
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>>15366640
Eww fuwatards are creeping in
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Can you guys open Gahkthun Steam store?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/458380/

I've been unable to ever since about 8 hours ago.
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>>15366917
Same for me
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>>15366174
I'd say it is the opposite. SPs low priced VNs have shown that you can make a killing selling things cheap. Leave it to Japan to still believe it needs to be high priced to make up for the low sales numbers.

As far as I know the low sale count of story VNs is all because of price. Most are just waiting for summer sale, which all Japanese companies will ignore because they want full price. Maybe some people will give up on discounts and buy them around September.
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>>15360341
They added another page of FAQ, they don't plan to crowdfund 2+3 though they would look to sell similar merchandise depending on how well this does. Considering how it is doing fairly meh now, that probably means hard English copies only for volume 1 of the 3.
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>>15366917
Same problem with Kindred Spirits.
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This is what quality is like. https://twitter.com/Stuart444/status/740531921772511233
https://twitter.com/Stuart444/status/740532393115832320
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Have people given up on Kudo Wafter?
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>>15366917
Steam redirected me too many times according to the error message.
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>>15366929
Even some of Sekai's cheap doujins haven't sold more than a few hundred copies.
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>>15366917

We're looking into it. It seems like a bug relating to the age gate.
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>>15366859
There is literally nothing wrong with Fuwanovel.
Please read my blog.

Clephas.
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>>15367246
We got ourselves a infestation, guys bring out the napalm.
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>>15367263
Haha, lol. Upvoted.

Shame there's a limit to how many times I can upvote daily, because that is hilarious.
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there's enough genuine stupidity in these threads without people deliberately acting stupid on top of that

please stop
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Sekai seems to be playing up some announcement for their E3 stream this weekend.
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>>15367353
Fate Stay Night confirmed :)))))))
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Ready for that MangaGamer Nitroplus partnership announcement? Nitroplus is done with JAST exclusivity.
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>>15367353
If they have made progress with Sony for console releases of their titles, they'll probably announce that considering it's E3. Good chance they announce some title(s) as well, but they also need to save stuff for AX/Otakon.
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>>15367364
They would get Hello, World, and then be shocked when it doesn't sell because the West isn't interested.
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>>15367364
Somehow I doubt that
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>>15367453
It wouldn't be that surprising to see JAST's exclusivity end, but I doubt MangaGamer would be the publisher they'd turn to.
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>>15366984
>I'll not write this message

(´・ω・`)
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>>15367486
If Jast didn't want it, or couldn't start it before the decade is over, perhaps something like Tokyo Necro would make sense going through MG if only because others aren't viable. But I would agree, it seems unlikely Nitroplus would decide to go with MG even if they drop exclusivity.
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>>15367636
Nitroplus never had an exclusive partnership with JAST. Console releases aside, I know of two PC Nitroplus titles in the works with other publishers that would put me in some shit if revealed.
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>>15367684
Muramasa?
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>>15367684
Are you including 5pb works?
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>>15367684
In the past it had seemed like those involved talked that way, for example Moogy, when he was involved with the Nitro+ stuff for Jast, said that Jast "has exclusive access to N+ titles and can release any of them at any time."

I'm hopeful though that they are in fact branching out to allow others to license their titles. Jast has done a good job with the Nitroplus titles they have released, but they picked up the partnership at AX 7 years ago, and during that time have only released Demonbane, Saya no Uta, Steins;Gate, and Hanachirasu.
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>>15367684
>Nitroplus never had an exclusive partnership with JAST

yes they absolutely did.
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>>15367445
I would absolutely love to see Hello, world.
If I ever become good enough at Japanese I am jumping straight to that one.
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>>15366917
>>15366954
They fixed whatever the problem was, as it's working again.
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>>15369105
More like Hello, boredom.

It's about twice as long as it needs to be. That kinda kills it. I believe it would be legit classic if the writer knew how to hold back.

And the language in it isn't even hard, you're probably just lazy and don't care enough about learning Japanese.
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are there any translated ntr games that are worth playing?
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Is there any chance of a release of Killer Queen, now that Lemnisca is done translating Root Double?

Lemnisca previously translated the first title, and Flat doesn't seem entirely against dealing with the west, if only having concerns with legality due to the loli content in Killer Queen?
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>>15347469
Death, presumably
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Any comedy VNs like Snow Sakura coming out?

I really like the format of 5-6 girls and a funny common route that isn't the type of lame moege we see today
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>>15370078
I'm just going to add that I am not suffering from nostalgia goggles as I just finished Snow Sakura this week
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>>15369868
>>15369868
I heard that Hello,World have the same problem as MuvLuv, where boring parts were dragged for too long, is this true? And girls routes were too similar to each other or something.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/485040/

How does this make you feel, /jp/?
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>>15370356
>Degica

Could be worse
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>>15370078
Have you tried My girlfriend is the president?
Other VNs with decent comedy are Hoshimeno and Ikikoi. The type of comedy you're looking for is usually on moeges
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>>15370356
>>15370365

Nevermind, I actually looked at the screenshots.

>That font
>Asky
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>>15369903
The only translated ntr games are super short nukige from MG. Some of them are okay, like My Boss' Wife Is My Ex, but none of them are standout.
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>>15369903
Wait for Bokuten
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>>15370279
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/povlist_game.php?pov_id=4&game=2267#pov_infomation
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I didn't have time to download Sakura Dungeon torrent a few days ago when it was uploaded to Nyaa and now it's deleted:
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2036341

I don't even care for the game, but I'm not going to tolerate this shit. I'll seed the hell out of it.
Fuck you dovac.

https://torcache.net/torrent/8B465969D371E99DD6838215A16AB63E9EE86C1D.torrent

In case Nyaa admin bent over completely, check other torrent sites in the future too. kat.cr works fine for countries which don't ban/block it.
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>>15370670
Or you can just get it from erogedownload.
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>>15370078
I thought Da Capo's common route was pretty funny. But the type of VN you mentioned is most likely to be a moege.
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>>15369984
I doubt loli content is an issue in any title that isn't all loli. If nothing else you can just JAST it and make a black screen and an offsite patch.

Almost all VNs are illegal anyway if they contain school girls. It is just that nobody cares to report them.
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>>15370373
Someone asked them about the screen shots on twitter, their response

>That was a very early translation used for the screenshots. We have done a lot of editing since then.
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>>15371155
> demo is not demonstrative of actual translation quality, we stealthily redid everything!
Every fucking time.
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>>15370365
>>15370373
Being a tri-languaged release (JP/CH/EN) , I would guess it was translated by the Japanese company into both on a tight time table, and Degica is just publishing it.
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>>15371402
IF degica is only hitting Steam's launch button and doing a poor job of promotion, then the devs don't need them.
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>>15371141
Actually there are different laws for different age ranges. For example in New Jersey as long as the girls are 16 or older it's fine to depict them in sexual situations, which is the minimum age for most eroge anyway.
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>>15371665
Real or cartoon? In Sweden it is illegal for real girls to be in porn unless they are 18. Cartoons on the other hand is legal for all ages.

I think there is a reason they write 18 or older and not 16 and older on packages, so most likely enough places have those teens as illegal.

Though to be fair, it is almost only Canada and Australia that bothers with cartoon laws. Every other place is maybe one case in 10 years. Which is very little considering how many people have loli.
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>>15371725
Cartoon, not real of course. That shit is always 18 or older everywhere.
I mean yeah, most devs will just leave the ages out or say every character is 18 or older, but the lolicon and underaged laws are pretty arbitrary. I just know that there are some places with separate laws for characters being prepubescent and characters being just under "adult" age.

Most cases that try loli have to do with real CP as well. I think there was only one case ever where somebody got charged just for cartoon porn in the US, at least. Canada and Aus are hell.
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>>15371741
Not to mention most cases the people got told to confess that it was a crime, instead of actually letting a person who knows law determine it in a court. I'd be surprised if anyone actually went to court and got sentenced.
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>>15371725
>>15371741
Australia here, please don't lump us in with Canada, we're nowhere near that bad.
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>>15371725
When you say cartoons you are probably right. I guess you are referring to the case with the mango translator. Keep in mind that one of his pictures was ruled illegal, and he only got away with it because of his expert status.

If your drawings are too realistic you can get in trouble in Sweden.
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>>15371829
Not to mention the only reason it got to court was because his wife tried to get custody of their child and figured reporting those images would help her.

So unless you got realistic cartoon drawings and a wife that hates you, you are pretty safe in Sweden.
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>>15370356
>Kogado Studio
While it is probably too old to matter, I'm guessing with the music Symphonic Rain would be a rights nightmare if anyone wanted to pick up Phar's translation for an official release?
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>Albatross will never be translated
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>>15372401
Who said so
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>>15372401
>implying albatross sky butlers isn't happening this year
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>>15372457
Me. It's literally impossible to translate.
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>>15372477
moogy pls.
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>tfw in med school
>tfw 148 iq
>tfw not intelligent enough to understand subahibi on anything but a surface level

Sure, Einstein was a cool lad, but he didn't know Japanese. He didn't have the mental capacity for it. I am the best.
- Moogy

Is there a bigger twat in the VN community?
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>>15372471
Never ever.
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>>15372643
they're all dickheads but who else will bring VNs to us lowly EOPs?
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>>15372643
I like how you used quote function for all the line except for the one which was actually quoting someone.
I also appreciate the surprise box.
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So I heard this is the thread to come YMK?
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>>15372643
This is the "get cancer and die" statement of this medium. It'll come back to bite him in the ass as the official release of SubaHibi draws near.

>>15372654
>they're all dickheads
In my experience, most of the people affiliated with localization and translation are nice.

>>15372695
You must be new to greentext. Have you ever visited a board on 4chan that isn't /jp/?
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>>15372719
Are you referring to TotalBiscuit when he said that to someone on twitter?
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>>15372654

Has Moogy actually had an important role with localizing any title since his translation work on the short Dra KoI?
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>>15372742
No
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>>15372742
Wasn't he supposed to translate Schatten until they fired him when they noticed he wasn't actually doing anything?
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>>15372742
The only thing notable about him is that he's the founder of TLWiki. He's the Hideo Kojima of VN localization, doing little work and taking all the glory. He unironically views himself this way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_sFafClcUk
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>>15372754
Yes
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>>15372776
>If I was born in 1453, Leonardo Da Vinci would be jealous of me
Sounds like Moogy.
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>>15372719
>You must be new to greentext. Have you ever visited a board on 4chan that isn't /jp/?
Did you notice that this IS /jp/? When in Rome, do as romans do.
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>>15370670
What the fuck are you talking about?
http://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2041891
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>>15372742
If I were Moogy I would revel in the fact that /jp/ still manages to talk about me at every possible opportunity, despite the fact that I haven't done anything in years and they pretend not to care who I am.
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>>15372823
He's a pseudo e-celeb who's objectively superior to them. It's jealousy. If you take a peek over in /vn/, you'll see Moogy having a meltdown.
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>>15372927
how many people in the west even read VNs? How many of that number give a shit about who translates them?
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>>15373119
Just count the unique IPs in this thread, that should be about all of them.
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>>15371818

Forgetting the Simpsons case, mate?
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>>15347209
wow, those egs scores...
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>>15369984
KQ was terrible, why would anyone want it?
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sekai added bunch of extra info on their projects

like hoshimemo is only 10% and that they're still not done with wagamama demo

They're as slow as jast

https://sekaiproject.com/progress/
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>>15373890
Remember when they said Hoshimemo would be out 2016?
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>>15373890
Their last Q&A was 4/19, which had progress for a couple titles
Chrono Clock went from 10% -> 17.11%
Tenshin Ranman went from 16% -> 25.38%
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>>15374015
Such progress in a mere two months. At this rate, they'll be done in a mere 22 months and 16 months!
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>>15373890
Maitetsu actually went backwards a few percent this week, so they either lost progress or they needed to revise their estimated script count upwards, changing the percent.
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>>15373622
Literally 8 years ago, also he was only fined. If he was in Canada they probably would've shot him on sight.
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>>15373890
>PacaPlus is in hiatus

>November Boy is in hiatus

>Koenchu is in hiatus
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>>15374457
More SP success stories.
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>>15374457
Django being in hiatus for Jast is much more painful than any of those.
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>>15374521
I bet JAST paid a translator, didn't check his quality (as usual), and now they're stuck with garbage. Will JAST ever find somebody competent?
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A fanTL group just released a full translation patch for Taimanin Yukikaze. Have to wonder if that MG/Black Lilith partnership is fully dead.
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>>15372816
Thanks for reminding that it was reuploaded 3 days after I had posted the initial torrent file.
Let's see how long it lasts this time.

I emphasized the relevant parts, feel free to ask if you still don't get what I'm talking about. The left window is from Opera's cache by the way.
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>>15375247
>1mb larger
Something's fucky here...
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>>15370670
>Getting mad because a copyright owner potentialy made a strike about a game you don't even care
No need to be so mad. Legitimate strikes exist everywhere and even so, the same product gets re-uploaded.

I don't even like SP given their scummy way of doing things but your attitude is full of a pirate entitlement which is not welcome in this industry (by people who actually buy VNs).
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>>15348860
You weren't kidding.

https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/ajtilley/created

He sure fooled a lot of dumb faggots.
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>Thinking Nyaa accepts takedowns

Where do you newfags even come from?
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>>15370366
I didn't really like Hoshizora I'll try ikikoi. Played the president one which was pretty good.
>>15371095
De capo also looks good.


I dunno maybe I do like moeges...
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>>15375324
Isn't nyaa just like piratebay as in they don't host anything
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>>15375286
Stop abusing quotation markers, dovac. Also fuck off, your kin does not belong in /jp/.
Thanks for the joke though, I chuckled a bit there:
>pirate entitlement which is not welcome in this industry
The implication of the VN industry existence in the west outside of torrent trackers and other file sharing services is a very funny one, I'll give you that.

>>15375324
>>15375351
Yes they do remove C&D'd torrents. For example, Steins;Gate was removed by staff several times in a row there, my dear newfags.
They also blacklist trackers they don't like (AniRena for example) in the torrent files (presenting the infamous teapot error), but it's another story.

>>15375260
The executable was changed (probably updated to v1.02). Look forward to v1.03 btw.

>>15375173
>Curent version of the patch is 1.0
>Translating, scripting, tumblring
>Social Media Consultant (Specializing in Dank Memes)
Looks very promising. Fortunately, I'm not interested in stuff like
>There's only one way to stay alive: become a submissive enslaved prostitute!
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>>15375397
>The implication of the VN industry existence in the west outside of torrent trackers and other file sharing services is a very funny one, I'll give you that.
Sure man, you know, companies like MG and Jast don't exist since... never!
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>>15375436
To be fair Jast at this point is a "Literally Who?"
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>>15375436
There's a wide gap between 'existing' and being an 'industry'. Just saying.
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>>15375455
Both apply in this case. Have you not been keeping up with how MG has grown?
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>>15375397
>They also blacklist trackers they don't like (AniRena for example)

fags btfo
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>>15375481
Not him but the company growing doesn't mean much when they don't release anything decent
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>>15375481
>Both apply in this case.
'Existing' and 'being an industry' are like mutually exclusive polar opposites, if you don't mind a little hyperbole. Having 1000% growth rate means little if the turnover of the whole so-called 'industry' is comparable to a budget of a single mid-tier western AAA game.
I understand the desire to respect oneself, but we don't live in an isolated world.
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>>15375397
> thinks filthy basement-dwelling criminals are "industry"
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>>15375519
If you think Higurashi, ef, eden KnS and a few others aren't anything decent I have to question what you're looking for in localized VNs. Also, obviously, different strokes for different folks I guess.

The other anon is saying that a VN industry outside of piracy doesn't exist, which is ridiculous. Years ago MG was struggling, it's true, but for a long time already they've been self sufficient, which means there is a industry. Now there are VN developers not even going through publishers to localize their stuff. Don't you think this means something?
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>>15375571
>I have to question what you're looking for in localized VNs
Nothing anymore Thank God, I just took a look at the list of titles MG has TL'd in the past couple of years and don't see anything noticeable. If I'm generous there's a decent nukige title or two

There's some potential with some of the recent partners but I highly doubt they'll end up getting many if any good titles.
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>>15375611
>I just took a look at the list of titles MG has TL'd in the past couple of years and don't see anything noticeable
>being pissed off for Sakura Dungeon C&D
What are you even doing on /jp/ and how did you find this place?
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>>15375710
>being pissed off for Sakura Dungeon C&D
That's clearly not the same person.
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>>15375571
>MG was struggling, it's true, but for a long time already they've been self sufficient, which means there is a industry
MG please. If I'm the only one in my city making paper cranes and selling them for the price of a colored paper they're made of, does that make my city have a paper crane industry as well?
Industry (that's worth talking about) is defined by numbers. All 2.5 VN companies on the market nowadays owe their very existence to the piracy first and foremost. So if not the money (which VN awareness translated into), piracy has its... mass effect I'd say, which can't be easily dismissed. On another hand we have poverty-stricken dovac (despite selling trash by thousands on Steam) and MG whose commercial success is basically a rounding error for any relatively well-known western video game publisher.
VN companies do exist (all 2.5 of them), VN industry does not. The west only has room for expansion for now; whether it will be used to create an industry worth talking about remains to be seen. I hope it will at least.

>>15375710
>>15375561
/vn/ please go and stay go
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>>15375710
>Sakura Dungeon C&D
>>15375519
>Not him

>What are you even doing on /jp/ and how did you find this place?
Other threads on the board obviously and I'm here because I was going to ask if Mangagamer is seriously going to release a game named "Funbag Fantasy" but I don't need to ask that anymore now do I?
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>>15375756
>going to release a game
Pardon me, Seriously use that as a translated title*
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>>15375752
Your perception of industry seems unrealistic for VNs. It's undeniable that awareness of VNs has been growing either through piracy or other legitimate method, and will continue to grown. But to reach numbers worth talking about it'll still be a long time. Many things need to change for that.
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>>15375827
Your perception of industry seems unrealistic for businesses which happen to coexist with us in the real world.

>Many things need to change for that.
MG should either stop using "VN industry" unironically (it reminds me of "delusions of grandeur" every time I see it) or register it as a trademark and all will be well.
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https://www.indiegala.com/animeangels
The bundle will be up for about 4 more days.

Base $1 tier:
Sword of Asumi, Go! Go! Nippon!, Last Days of Spring

$5 tier adds:
Sakura Spirit+Angels+Beach 1+2, Aozora Meikyuu, Cyber City 2157, Serafina's Crown, Impulse

Keep in mind that Steam Summer Sale is scheduled for the end of June, so if you have a regional discount on Steam (such as Russian/Indian/Chinese etc account), you might get a better deal then.
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>>15375752
degica is a VN publisher now too. And an increasing number of Vita VNs are being ported to PC, because they see a market for them on Steam. Japanese devs self publishing alot more nowadays, which means they see a serious market in the west.
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>>15376463
If anyone actually consideres spending money on the trash listed there, please also consider removing yourself from the gene pool permanently.
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>>15376030
>MG should either stop using "VN industry" unironically (it reminds me of "delusions of grandeur" every time I see it) or register it as a trademark and all will be well.
I see, you're autistic, that explains everything.
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>>15376030
>Your perception of industry seems unrealistic for businesses which happen to coexist with us in the real world.
This statement alone demonstrates you have no knowledge of the VN market. Comparing a niche product to a mainstream one is one of the dumbest things I read só far on /jp/
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>>15376835
In what time period? The last three minutes? Ten minutes? It can't be much longer than that, because there are a TON of dumb posts on /jp/, including this one, yours, and every other post in this thread.
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>>15374039
>or they needed to revise their estimated script count upwards
They must have added the adult scripts!!
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Dharker studio is pushing Nutaku limited exclusiveness something fierce. I guess Nutaku got so much cash they can easily pay publishers to give them special treatment.

If only they made a loli game to test Nutaku's honesty on censorship.
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>>15377342
Not necessarily. Remember when Da Capo 3 progress dropped because Doddler missed some of the existing scripts, because they were coded a bit differently?
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>>15377364
If Nutaku is a US based company, then their limitations on what the payment processors allow still applies. I don't see any extreme titles on the platform, and it might stay that way if they can't release them uncensored.
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>>15377453
Last I heard they were Canadian. But I do hope they didn't decide to run this kind of business in the dumbest country in the world.
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>>15377500
>Canadian
No loli games confirmed.
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>>15377500
They can still run an eroge store, they just can't allow things like Starless, euphoria, or Maitetsu on it. It will only be "clean" eroge.
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>>15377500
Nutaku being based in Canada is based on this page: http://www.nutaku.net/notice/
The page is basically a statement of compliance with the US Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act, which requires companies to maintain records of identification and records of age for all persons involved in sexually explicit content. Since Nutaku has some browser games that use real adult actors that's not too strange. The address given isn't actually Nutaku's though, but simply that of where their records are stored. Either way, the address the records are kept and where the business actually runs may not necessarily be the same location.

Their actual business appears to be split into two companies, MG Billing US Corp, which is referred to as “Nutaku” in their disclaimer and incorporated in the US, and MG Billing Ireland Ltd, which probably exists for tax reasons. As such, I think it's a mistake to call it a Canadian business.
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>>15377522
It barely counts as an eroge store when you are stuck with adults in missionary positions only.
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>>15377766

>Nutaku is legally based in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg. We are not bound by Canadian content restrictions.

From a letter that Nutaku sent last month to correct a blog post sanahtlig did
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>>15378015
They do follow those Canadian rules though. I've never seen more safe selections in games.
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>>15377766
>>15378015

They're owned by PornHub. It's a big multinational company they're probably incorporated wherever they'd get the best tax incentive (Just look at their footer––see that Irish address? It's a corporate tax haven.)

Content-wise they're more beholden to their payment processors than anything else, what's legal and what payment processors find acceptable are two entirely different things.
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>>15378032
They obviously have been improving with what they allow on the site, looking at what the CG set from their release of Flower Knight Girl looks like, but yeah they still have some restrictions, and their downloadable store is about as safe as it can be.
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>>15378048
I doubt a payment processor actually cares about details. The very idea that payment processors would willingly take on the role of ESRB and rate all the games their customers sell is crazy.

Imagine Steam having to send every single detail about every single game in their store to their payment processors for approval. And imagine some games blocked because the payment processor didn't like the religion in them, or the sexism, or the font.

No, I think the payment processors just say "Don't sell anything illegal". I.e. until the day the payment processor gets reports that say "Hey, this company sells CP, you better block them", they can sell anything they want.
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>>15378075
There is strong evidence that payment processors are a problem right now for non-Japanese based companies. Nutaku aside, Denpasoft has also had a number of payment processor issues in recent months, and the Nekopara physical release is currently not for sale because of it.
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>>15378075
>I doubt a payment processor actually cares about details.

Oh if only. They care a great deal when it comes to adult content. Just look at the shit Sekai's been going through. The latest processor they found considers Nekopara beastiality.

Steam doesn't sell anything it considers adult content and they're on a whole different level to begin with.
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>>15378075
If only your fantasy world was reality
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>>15378064
Just need to hope they keep dropping restrictions. Digital currency is an abomination, but if all these Japanese companies are self-publishing, having a large, 3rd party, distribution platform for uncut titles gives them reason to include an uncut release instead of just Steam.
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>>15378105
In my fantasy world there exists at least one country with at least one bank that aren't idiots. Of course, you can pick banks freely, regardless of where you live.

I'd hate it reality is that you must have a local payment processor from your own country, and every country is inhabited by people who think maids are slave women.
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>>15378097
If I was working for a major payment processor, I'd fuck with Sekai too if I got the chance. It's the price for making enemies all around.
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>>15378096
According to their statements, their payment processor won't allow nekopara because they consider it as containing bestiality...
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>>15378156
Most people, even those with an interest in VNs, have no clue who Dovac is. Of those who do, and have a problem with his rants, most wouldn't make it harder to release uncut titles here in the West.
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Predictions?
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>>15378433
New thing from an existing company is probably either Maggot Baits, or a minori title, considering their guests.
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>>15378433
BL, Yuri, Horror, Rape.
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>>15378482
Why is that the clock-up title expected? I liked euphoria a lot but I don't think I'd get much from maggot baits.
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>>15378482
Why does everyone seem to forget or exclude Ero Manga! for some reason... As far as I see it, it would be the next title MG would be looking at.
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>>15378660
>>15378689
Maggot Baits is much more well known of the two, and it seems like they would want to follow on the success of euphoria. They actually were selling Maggot Baits stuff at their convention last month.
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>>15378689
>Why does everyone seem to forget

That is one reason for them to go with Maggot Baits over Ero Manga.
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>>15378689
>>15378709
I would assume it is whatever game the translator liked the most. Looking at what they translate, it seems like most of them are suckers for horror genre.

Ironically it doesn't seem to be the best selling genre and every launch is filled with whining about poor sales.
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>>15378433
WA2, Oiran Rouge, New shit from Bamboo, OELVN crap
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>>15378709
>They actually were selling Maggot Baits stuff at their convention last month.

I wouldn't read too much into that. They always sell random shit at cons. They had a pile of UtaPri stuff at AX last year.
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>>15378773
Unless you count Go Go Nippon as an OELVN, they haven't included OELVN stuff in their announcements slots before.
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>>15378119
MG kind of fills that role already, but some people don't like their ghetto site.
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>>15378810
There is certainly room for improvement. Like when I want to complain on how many rape games they have, the word rape isn't actually a category you can sort by. (Most likely to protect themselves from SJWs)

Overall the tag system is pretty silly at MG. Like they spent time adding the tag "mansion", like it would be a vital search criteria for a game. I certainly have never felt an urge to play a mansion game.
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>>15378709
I see. Well I'd give the demo a try at least.
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>>15378841
They have too many tags and should simplify them. They're used somewhat inconsistently too.
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>>15378841
They don't have a rape tag, but anything will more extreme sexual content is under hardore. But even fetish games like EROGE are under that tag too.

As for you thinking they license to many rape vns, they haven't done too many recently. And if they keep licensing them it must mean that they sell well.
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>>15378934

The problem with a rape tag is it'd apply to just about any 18+ VN so it wouldn't really be very informative.
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>>15378689
>>15378709
I personally love the idea of both. Actually, I like Clock Up a lot, so I hope that they're localizations stay profitable for both MangaGamer and Clock Up so that we can eventually get their entire catalogue.
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>>15378761
Euphoria was well known even before it was picked up, and Maggot Baits is well known now


As to their other stuff, I don't think it's as much translator choice as it is the result of a mindset "what is the best story title we can get with limited resources", and that ends up being genres by companies who aren't in line with what usually sells the best in Japan, and since the markets are similar that also leads to not the best sales here.
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Was fraternite received poorly in Japan?
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>>15379384

Not particularly. It sold well enough for ClockUp to hire more staff.
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>>15378709
Great, I really want it be Maggot Baits now
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moogy doesn't know Japanese.
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https://vndb.org/v2626
When?
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>>15379716

Buy more KnS2
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>>15379744
already did
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>>15379813

Buy it again
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>>15373839
Because Secret Game is great.
They said so themselves, Killer Queen was an establishing title as a doujinshi group before they became official, and Secret Game is a counter to the original game.
The only problem is that Lemnisca went legit and can't do freelance translations like this
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Absolutely nothing from Japan Contents about ChuSinGura 46+1 failing this week, they probably killed the Japan Contents brand just after their May 8th update. Hopefully it helps deters them and others from thinking they can do a no effort kickstarter for easy money.
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>>15379716
After KnS3
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>>15378433
Hopefully nothing that matters, I don't want you EOPs getting anything revelant.
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>>15380225
Be it from MG or others, I think you are in for a lot of future disappointment these next couple years as the Japanese market tries to cash in on the West.
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>>15379895
uh... Secret Game is the better version of KQ... but you still want KQ... because its already been translated?
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>>15380225
I have a feeling you are the same person that keeps posting this.
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>>15366027
He buys the licenses for games but he's too busy shitposting on twitter to translate.
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>>15380397
I think it's kind of funny
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>>15379412
Sales and reception are completely different things. 95% sales of any big eroge are preorders and day 1 sales at retails, when there's no information on actual game quality yet. As result its not uncommon to game sell well but receive very poor ratings and enrage fans.
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>>15380397
Well, it is the kind of opinion one stays consistent in.
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>>15378934
They are also cheap, so it is very hard to say it sold on content or on price. Unless you want to claim OELVN is better than rape VN and what MG should focus on.
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>>15379112
I have like 15 Clock up pirated games, and only about 2 of them are visibly in the "extreme abuse and disgusting" genre. (Would be 3 with maggot baits but that is newer than my piracy period).

There is more than enough great moege to pick from to sell and make a fortune if they ever decided they wanted to sell things to normal people and not to the few who buy story titles.
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>>15381242

>There is more than enough great moege to pick from to sell and make a fortune if they ever decided they wanted to sell things to normal people and not to the few who buy story titles.

Princess Evangile was only released in March 2015, and while it was a big success, before then they had lackluster sales with titles like Harukoi Otome. They had no reason to think Princess Evangile was going to be a success, in fact Doddler was saying stuff like "I really hope this does well, for the future of moege from MG." I'd expect them to grab more moege going forward, but it's no surprise they haven't before now.

Their big failure of a title picked up after Steam took off for them appears to be the Propeller deal (Gahkthun and Fata morgana predate Steam success, other than GGN). It's hard to fault them for those, 2 good all ages titles that could easily be put on Steam probably looked very appealing after their big hits on Steam. Just turns out the West isn't interested in Propeller titles (or at least Tokyo Babel). Himawari is still coming as well, but I could see that going either way.
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>>15379716
This. It's the only non-translated title from IG i'm interested in and now that KnS2 have a hard-copy i hope they plan to do Caucasus too.
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>>15379384
Euphoria : 80/100 with 920 votes on EGS.
Fraternite : 75/100 with 203 votes.
Maggot Baits : 82/100 with 157 votes.

I don't think it was received poorly and Clock-up is one of those studio with a lot of diedhard fans. Usually, their titles sold well.
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>>15381400
I think we are on to Doddler saying everything sells poorly.

And the Steam thing is just natural. Anyone expecting selling outside of sales is delusional. Heck I am even waiting for Doom 4 to be discounted before buying. Not even legendary titles can squeeze out 60 dollars for a game all the time.

I'm still kind of impressed that I've bought more than 50 VNs last year. And it was all votes with my wallet against DRM (by buying physical), in favor of discounts (by buying at every sale), in favor of lower prices (by buying almost every bundle), in favor of loli (which was just one game), in favor of steam + patch solution.
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>>15381242
You know, if you used all the time through this year you kept bitching about MG not licensing games specifically for you on learning Japanese instead, you could already reach the point of reading moege w/out support tools.
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>>15381723
My total bitching time is probably a week. If I could learn Japanese that fast I'd be all for it.

Now if I used my youtube, twitch and MMO daily quest time... then we'd have multiple years worth of time.
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test
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https://twitter.com/Good_Haro/status/741370783407214592
>tfw you realize you could have had a title that abbreviates to FML if you’d thought about it earlier
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>>15381223
Most standard nukige are short and cheap, yet MG still does a decent number of rape nukige. It made sense in MG's early years, since some of their original partners made those types of vns. Now it seems like they're solid performers. And games like euphoria show a demand for extreme content.
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>>15381561
>I think we are on to Doddler saying everything sells poorly.

Even so, they had reason to expect poor sales from Princess Evangile. It was in a genre that had sold comparatively bad for them compared to other genres, and had high localization costs because of its length.


>And the Steam thing is just natural. Anyone expecting selling outside of sales is delusional.

Pretty much every big VN title has had the same 10-15% discount for launch week, and similar pricing. Some titles, like Princess Evangile sold well from launch, others, like Tokyo Babel didn't. But their success and failure has little to do with what kind of sales were offered because a significant amount of their sales come from week one with similar week 1 discounts on most titles. Even with absolute pricing, Fata morgana was cheaper than the rest of their big VNs, but sold worse than any of them.
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I wonder how many it sold. Number 1 for this week.
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>>15382026
Fata Morgana Lesbians, eh?
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>>15382570
It will probably sell roughly the same as KnS 1 hard copy. I mean, unless you bought it and hated it, you probably want a matching sequel.

>>15382479
The thing is that Steam always has a summer sale so everyone who has owned steam for over a year is probably waiting to see if VNs will be discounted during it. It has nothing to do with what their prices were at launch or a week after. It is just people holding off on their purchase for a bit.
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>>15382610
I know alot of people have no interest in Tokyo Babel, because it's all ages and chuuni. Some people played it, didn't care for it, and started calling it a kusoge, which discouraged other people from playing it.
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>>15382479
Fata Morgana was worth the price. It was a longer read and better than I expected.
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>>15382570

Hardcopy sales aren't really noteworthy at all, even on a good week there's like 30 hardcopies sold total. It's easy to observe this when stock starts running low and you see the number 1 title in a week sell all of five copies.
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>>15382626
This. Hardcopy when?
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>>15383076
Never. Many people saw the art and concluded that it was shit before they even read it.
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>>15382610
>The thing is that Steam always has a summer sale so everyone who has owned steam for over a year is probably waiting to see if VNs will be discounted during it. It has nothing to do with what their prices were at launch or a week after. It is just people holding off on their purchase for a bit.

I am not denying there are people holding off on their purchase, only denying that it isn't going to be enough to significantly alter the relative lifetime sales of their titles. Even if it got a good Sale, Tokyo Babel isn't going to suddenly become a strong seller for MG, that has only failed thus far because there were thousands of people interested in it but wanted to save $5-$10. Especially if you are just looking at relative sales, a title like Princess Evangile flat out draws more interest and would do better with a similar sale then Tokyo Babel.

>>15382626
I thought so as well, but its sales still suck because others just looked at it and went to play something else.
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>>15382895
This is probably the one and only time period that hard copies ranking are somewhat relevant, because they have 4 titles over 6 releases in preorder and the weekly ranking will show how they are doing relative to each other.
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>>15382610
Probably this mixed with staggered releases and backlogs. I bought Tokyo Babel but I've barely read it since then, by the time I get to it the summer will probably be over. There's not much incentive to purchase something you won't get to right away and you know you can get cheaper down the line. I just cancelled my preorder of Grand Kingdom, actually, since the release got delayed a week and now it's releasing alongside Zero Time Dilemma and SO5. There's no way I'll be able to juggle those 3 games so I'll just pick it up in a few months when it's cheaper. VNs are no different in this regard, I imagine others feel the same.
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>https://twitter.com/jlist/status/741823198061170689
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>>15385200
Cross Days
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>>15385208
We might get another Empress title. Probably Lewdness.
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>>15385200
What is Makoto doing these days?
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>>15385325
He's translating Muramasa.
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>>15385325
Get rid of honorifics.
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>>15385200
what if muramasa gets translated and everyone hates it
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>>15385501
Then we'll blame the translation.
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>>15385542
perfect
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>>15385501
It certainly will be hated.
Significant part of readers will drop it during first chapter, because bunch of kids doing kid shit with male school kid protagonist (I personally know several jp-reading pals who dropped it for this reason, even though several others of us explained them that there's more to it and they just need to finish that chapter).
Then plenty more readers will drop it when they get tired of very long and (to many) very boring battle sequences.
From my jp-reading circle, about half of those who started muramasa, didn't finish it.
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>>15385642
To be fair "It get better later on" isn't generally good enough of a reason to continue something that has so far hasn't been interesting.
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>>15385642
That's retarded. Even if I did find the start shit I'd still finish it because of its reputation alone.
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>>15385813
When you have literally thousands of titles to choose from, there's very little incentive to keep reading something you didn't like from the start.
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>>15386004
That was my reaction to reading the first two Muv-Luv VNs because damn, were they boring.
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>>15385675
Chaos;Gate was like that for me. Everything except the last chapter was bad. It is a shame when the cooking sessions of Fate/Stay Night feels better paced and written.
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>>15386508
You actually liked that retarded shit with the swords?
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>>15386530
Infinitely more than the "Look I'm a NEET because I'm afraid of people, talk to dolls and have a whiny voice". Which was 90% of the game.
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>>15386508
Been multiple years since I read the title but weren't the cooking scenes mostly used as a break in between the action or as a background for plot dumps?
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