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Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

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Visual Novel translation status


Amagami - 1st day patch Released for PS2/PSP, "1587/2308 original edition scenario scripts translated (68.7%)"
>Angel Beats 1st Beat - 160445/434217 (36.95%) lines translated
>AstralAir - prologue patch released, 47203/64880 (72.75%) lines translated
Ayakashi Gohan - 49% complete
Black Wolves Saga: All scripts translated and edited 59/65 through TLC
Clover Day's - Common + 2 routes done, other routes + 348/711 KB, 92/764, and 74/722 KB translated
>Dracu-Riot - Patch released with all but half of one route
>HaraKano - patch with 3 routes released
Haruka Na Sora - Sora 11.29% translated, Kozue 23.73% translated
Harumade Kururu - 100% of the initial harem route translated
>Hoka no Onna - 78.15% translated
Irotoridori no Sekai - 3101/50663 (6%) lines translated
Ken ga Kimi: 116/122 scripts translated, 108/122 scripts edited
Kiminozo - Common route translation complete, Haruka route 1st pass complete
>Koiken Otome - 100% translated, 88.90% edited, 86.39% QC, prologue patch released
>Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 4% (1609/42627) lines translated
Kurukuru Fanatic - 87.5% translated
Lovely Cation- 31.6% of lines completed
Majikoi A-1 - 64%
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - Commie project actively in editing
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 2nd project with 2.2 scripts translated
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru - 3rd project released ch 1-5
Monster girl quest paradox - Being translated, another partial patch released
Muv Luv Total Eclipse - 25% translated
Nursery Rhyme - 12032/32977 lines translated
Oreimo Tsuzuku - All scripts translated, 202/268 through TLC+Editing, 136/268 scripts finalized
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - 100% translated and edited, 48% through TLC
>Sanarara - Project resuming
Sukimazakura to Uso no Machi - 8,448 / 30,513 Lines (27.7%) translated, partial patch released
Tokyo Necro - Project starting
Witch's Garden - 47555/67201 (70.77%) lines translated, 2496/67201 (3.71%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 100%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited
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Official work

MangaGamer
>Tokyo Babel - Released
OZMAFIA - 4/29 release
>House in Fata Morgana - 5/13
Higurashi Hou -Tatarigoroshi: 100% TL+ED
>Bokuten - 79% translated, 70% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 85% translated, 79.3% edited
>Myth - 100% translated, 81% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - In testing
>Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 40% TL 18.13% edited
Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Umineko - Picked up
>Negai no Kakera - 63.31% translated
Princess Evangile W Happiness - 32.58% translated, 10.6% edited
Imouto Paradise 2 - 36.59% translated, 10% edited


JAST
Seinarukana- Golden master
Flowers - demo released, delayed
Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder
Sonicomi - Summer release
Sweet Home - 66% translated
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 86%
Django - Waiting on translation.


Sekai/Denpa
>Root Double - Delayed, April release planned
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title 100% translated, in editing
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in TLC
WEE 3 - 40.36% translated
Nenokami - 45.48% translated
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 100% translated
Darekoi - 15.77% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Hoshizora no Memoria - picked up
Ley Line - picked up
Maitetsu - picked up



Other
>Magical Eyes - Released
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Extra release in March, Unlimited by early May
Schwarzesmarken - on Greenlight
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 6764/10293 (65.71%) lines translated
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter succeeded
Zero Time Dilemma - Jun 28th release
ChuSingura46+1 - Kickstarter Canceled
Sora wo Aogite Kumo Takaku - Through Greenlight
Corona Blossom - English release planned
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread
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It seems you forgot Bishoujo Mangekyou.
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>Dracu-Riot - Patch released with all but half of one route

this is an april fools joke and it's actually the full patch right?
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>>15018902
Of course not. How would that be funny?
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>>15018902
Some fuwalators are going to finish it, so rest assured.
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http://www.nitroplus.co.jp/news/2016/04/160402_4796.php

>ニトロプラス15周年記念作品、18禁PCゲーム『凍京NECRO<トウキョウ・ネクロ>』の一般対象版が発売決定!

To be used in a possible EOP release?
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>>15018902
>>15018964
>>15019041
https://miuquickscripts.wordpress.com/2015/03/02/mius-route-completed/

Got you guys covered. :)
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You know that Angel Beats line count is not the actual line count at all, right? He dumped the scripts and is counting literally every single line in them, including name tags and code. If you're making an actual comparison to what every other project in the world calls a line, it's less than 10% of that number.
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I just want to give them my money so they need to just get Umineko on steam already.
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I told you, niggers. I told you about Dracu-Riot. I kept telling you every week for 2 fucking years and you didn't believe me. ざまぁ見ろ
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>>15019587
What am I even reading.
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It's a dead man's party. Who could ask for more? Everybody's comin', leave your body at the door.
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>>15018668
Sumaga when?
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>>15020047
By the time it comes out, it won't be compatible with any version of current windows (probably like windows 15), and it will be stalled again for rescripting/recoding.
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>>15020047
>>15020054
Hasn't it been 10 years or so now? I still listen to the soundtrack.
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Were you looking forward to reliable tracking information for the next two months? Too bad, it's bundle time. There's no bundle counter either, so one can't even attempt to filter out the noise later.

Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/F879Z1KR
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/EKGVxesz
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/xJxKNfum

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so post order numbers if you've got em'.
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>>15020149
Before bundle:
Order Number - 170387
Order Date - 2016-04-01 19:46:19

One of the bundle orders:
Order Number - 180332
Order Date - 2016-04-03 05:15:03
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>Angel Beats 1st Beat - 160445/434217 (36.95%) lines translated
This doesn't seem to be listed on VNDB. Anybody have more information on this project?

>>15020118
Close to 8 years.
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>>15020362
its on reddit. There's a preview video. The english seems kinda bad but its a fan TL so whatever. It's a pretty big game and I don't know why that guy is wasting his time working on it for free. I also don't understand why westerners idolize Maeda/Key so much. Actually, It's probably because the only nakige they are exposed to is shit adapted into anime like Clannad and they seem to think nakige are kamige. Since Key seems open to the west, I hope that guy tries to get that shit officialized. People translating shit and buying shit officially shows Japanese devs that a market exists in the west.
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>>15020379
Here we go with the plebbitors.
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>>15020379
I went in with the lowest of the low expectations and came out pleasantly surprised. The phrase "it'll be fine after the editor does his job" seems like it might apply for once.
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>>15020379
Yeah, because if you translate something as a hobby you "must" to sell it to SP/VisualArts, if not is "shit" right?
And are you pretty sure that you know what is the definition of nakige and kamige? Because Clannad is none of these.
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>Koiseyo Imouto Banchou - 4% (1609/42627) lines translated

Is the translator any good? He has a thread on Fuwanovel so I assume he's shit.
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>>15020439
Not him, but "nakige" literally means "crying game," and Key also invented the formula for nakige when they were still Tactics and have released most of their games since using evolved forms of that basic formula.
There's hardly any argument that CLANNAD isn't a nakige.
Also,
>seem to think nakige are kamige.

You're arguing against his perception of other people's opinions in the first place.
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>>15020149

Order Number - 169985
Order Date - 2016-04-01 03:23:45
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>>15020523
>You're arguing against his perception of other people's opinions in the first place.
Not him but that stupid statment can be applied to anyone; no one has a identical perception and thats why we have our own opinion and argue against others.
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So Good_Haro mentioned that MangaGamer's got more BL and Otomege lined up and I was wondering, how viable is Nitro+Chiral?

The thought popped into my head when the email sent for MangaGamer's April Fools sales mentioned a Watanabe Studio, which made me think of Watanabe Kazuhiro, who composes songs for a good number of Nitro+ games, including Nitro+Chiral.
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>>15018668
>Da Capo 3 - 85% translated, 79.3% edited

Only 2 more years to go.
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>>15020742
Why is /jp/ SFW when nobody has a job?!
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>>15020721
I wouldn't expect anything from Nitro+ since it's associated with JAST. Also, most of their titles have been fantranslated, which lowers the chances of them being licensed by MG.
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>>15020721

Isn't mangagamer still pretty skittish about licensing titles with fan translations? With that in mind, I don't really think nitro+chiral is happening.

I'm kind of tempted to assume that the title is
>https://vndb.org/v7769
since it has all the right ingredients. VA is interested in the west, but not exclusive with anyone. All ages version. "HD". Haro played it if I recall. >and some double trouble. The only thing stopping me from being sure is that the fan translation project for it hasn't been shut down.
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>>15020747
I have a front office investment banking job

I love the sense of alpha superiority it brings. No one cares about your hobbies or your eccentricities when you have money
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>>15020777
>Isn't mangagamer still pretty skittish about licensing titles with fan translations?
If they can't go on Steam, then they're most likely not happening. ef's extremely poor sales basically killed the chances of existing fan TLs being licensed outside of Steam releases.
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>not advertising Gahkthun while there's still hype from the Tesla Model 3 announcement

Why is MG so bad at marketing?
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>>15020794
Maybe Gahkthun suck and is one of the worst Liar-soft games?
And the same I can say about Fata Morgana, maybe they want to releas it because is all-ages and they have hopes with Steam but... I don't think it will sell well.
But yeah MG marketing suck; the demo of TB announced in Steam can be downlad only from MG main site after creating an account and there are 0 coments from the staff in these forums.
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>>15020879
>the demo of TB announced in Steam can be downlad only from MG main site after creating an account

Incorrect.

http://mangagamer.org/tokyobabel/
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>>15020879
Steam is full of people who love horror vns, so Fata Morgana should do fine. Plus, it has decent art and a good soundtrack, which are major selling features.
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>>15020879
>Maybe Gahkthun suck and is one of the worst Liar-soft games?
Hahahahah, sounds like you don't know liar soft at all. They've released a lot worse games.
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How long is Fata Morgana roughly? If it's a full length vn, then it would appear that MG is experimenting with lowering their prices to increase sales numbers. On Steam, anything over $20 is a tough sell for a vn.
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All of that translated to "The Man".
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>>15020940
The first three kanji which no one cares about = the
の = space
男 = man
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>>15019587
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>>15020947
Doctor Cocktor
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>>15020895
I doon't think Fata Morgana has the same appeal as Higurashi and Umineko and the art isn't helping, the only goods thing about that VN are the atmosphere and music.
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>>15020979
I think the art looks good. And it might attract people who don't usually play vns.
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>>15020886
>Incorrect.
Here the link "announced in Steam News":
https://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=166
An average user will go there, after clicking in "Trial version download" will see the this message; "Please log in before proceeding" and dessist. This is a pretty crappy promotion and no many users will go in search for alternative links.
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Django - Waiting on translation.

I cry eveytiem.
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>>15021012
The file size of the demo is likely a major deterrent as well.
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>>15020047
At this point, you might as well read whatever nitroplus you want instead of waiting for jast/makoto.
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Damn, the last chapter is a tragedy unfolding before the player's eyes. And I feel worse is yet to come.
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>>15018667
>https://twitter.com/le_kaitsu/status/716675834816434176

Looks like 1 route of PE W Happiness has been fully edited.
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>>15021317
Hopefully he reads routes BEFORE editing them.
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>>15021340

I'm pretty sure kaitsu's a girl, unless ds55's secretly been gay this entire time.

Also not really sure difference it would make to edit it before/after since it's all in spreadsheet and if an add an edit change doesn't fit after you've read further you can just go back and change it.
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>>15019182
This is weird because it was only announced to be a pc version so far. Makes me think nitroplus is asking for a localization of this badly.
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>>15021492
Perhaps. I'd say it's something that would sell to EOPs.
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>>15021497
Yuri would definitely sell, but censored yuri?
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>>15021539
Flashy and edgy Nitroplus VN would sell.
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>>15021545
I wouldn't consider it edgy though.
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>>15021567
Why not?
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>>15021574
It's more of a flash VN with some disturbing elements, but nothing I would call total edge like some other things.

Also because at the very core it's all about a true love story
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>>15021624
flashy*
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>>15021624
Disturbing and edgy is close to being the same. Edgy just has a more critical tone.
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>>15020721

Oh, the Watanabe Studio thing was an inside joke about one of our Japanese staff members, that's all.
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>>15020362
>Close to 8 years.

Man, what in the fuck is Jast's problem? How has this company not fucking died?
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>>15021539
Hang on, son. Tokyo Necro is yuri? That is definitely right up my alley. Exactly how much yuri are we talking here?
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>>15021808
because jast is mostly subsidized by j-list, which makes lots of money marking up matcha pocky to weebs in middle america's suburbia, where there are no asian grocery stores to compete with.
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>>15021843
I think one of the protagonists is lesbian.
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>>15021870
Yeah, I do see as much.
https://vndb.org/v13666/chars

Can anyone tell me who she fucks? I hope the eyepatch girl.
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>>15021892
The guy.
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>>15021902
Don't be silly. Why would a lesbian fuck a guy?
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>>15021926
Indirect sex.
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>>15021926
Why would anybody fuck a guy?
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>>15021928
That doesn't even sound real.

>>15021933
A very good question.
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>>15021892
>I hope the eyepatch girl.
Unfortunately no, but she fucks a dark skinned girl and that blonde girl
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>>15021943
>That doesn't even sound real.
It is.
Girl A loves Girl B
Girl B loves Guy A
Guy A fucks Girl B
Girl A fucks Guy A because his dick touched Girl B.
Appears in more than one work.
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>>15022040
Stick sisters? Gross.
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>>15022184
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You know what's fucking stupid? Sekai Project.
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>>15022730
Has /jp/ gotten its apology from dovac and plebbit yet?
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>>15022747
>Dovac
>apologizing

LOL
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Where's my good man MILF autist? I found something he might like.
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>>15022830
He's shitposting on /vn/ with his brethren. Thank god he has fucked off.
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>>15022830
hi where can i get visual novels? i used to use fuwanovel but they stopped having torrents on their site?
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>>15023064
Sukebei
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Fuck. I hate seeing the visual novel ads on Nyaa. Why does JAST have preorders for so many fucking VNs that they DON'T HAVE DATES FOR? Fuck this shit, at least MangaGamer has a date ready when they put up preorders. And before you say anything, I usually block ads but I have the Nyaa ones unblocked because sometimes they're funny.
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Two new Tokyo Babel reviews:

"This visual novel is top notch with excellent writing, translation, and overall research of esotericism (theosophy and philosophy) within the Abrahamic relgions (particularly in Kabbalistic mysticism and much study of the Ethiopian Book of Enoch). Has surpassed all my expectations (especially being my first visual novel indulgence despite owning Steins' Gate). If you have any interest in the esoteric studies, this game is well worth your time and money. Highly, highly recommended."

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"There's action, romance, comedy, drama, horror, suspense and all of it is just so damned fun. That's Tokyo Babel in a nutshell.

The description on the store page pretty much perfectly sums up the story, and there's a free demo available at the mangagamer site, so I will instead go on about the things I like about this VN that makes me recommend it. Additionally I will remark that I at least enjoyed all the characters and found something to like in all of them, though given how that is somewhat subjective, I would refrain from adding that as a plus.

For a VN it takes up nearly nine gigabytes of space, and all of that space is spent on top quality effects, animations and CGs, all of which make the experience feel a lot less static than your typical VNs. If there's a ball of fire being described, you'll see a ball of fire. If there's a pillar of water, you'll see a geyser effect on your screen. A background will pan around a bit with bits of debris and smoke. The game makes sure the text is usually accompanied with some effect to further immerse you in the action going on. The character sprites bounce around, move from side to side, and are just expressive in general. I haven't seen this in a lot of VNs I played and is just really nice with how much effort they put into it.

The story is gripping, goes along at a good pace, and fills you in on the lore of the place the game is set while never seeming like an info dump. This game is a lot like Fate/Stay Night, taking inspiration from myth and legends and building up their characters from various figures from them. The use of the esoteric in this game is pretty well done, much like Umineko and their handling of the occult, with of course a flair that only the Japanese making a VN with moe characters and grand epic battles can pull off while mixing such things.

The voice acting comes from some of the industry's top talent. If you're halfway interested in anime, you'll hear someone you have heard before from a popular anime. The music is all well done, though personally a part of me feels as though there could have been just a little more variety, though that doesn't at all mean there's a dearth of tracks available. There are thirty unique pieces of music available (from the music selection menu), and they're all pretty darn good. Presentation wise, it's all top stuff.

The best part is that there's a lot of game to play through. VNDB lists about 30 to 50 hours, and I went through one of the three routes available in about 12 hours, so I would say depending on your reading speed, that is about right. This is a LARGE VN, and it's just great. I know I will find no fault with the other routes and will probably only have a better opinion of the game as the later routes. Many people will probably be scared off by the price, but I can say I do not regret paying full price for this VN."

Am I going to do this for every review, you ask? Yes.
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>>15023655
>Am I going to do this for every review, you ask? Yes.
Why exactly? There are better places to shill.
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>>15023668
Because I can, and it's free.
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>>15023690
Well if you want to post stuff that most people are just going skip reading knock yourself out I suppose.
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>>15023655
>This visual novel is top notch with excellent writing, translation

How does he know about the writing or translation if it's his first VN and in English?

Fucking EOPs, I swear.
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>>15023815
I suppose he means that it was edited well.

When we have text-switching options you'll see more informed comments on translation quality
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>>15023655
Are there any reviews from known quantities like blue and green here? https://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/august-2012-eroge-releases/

Preferably from people who actually enjoy the genre.
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>>15023877
>known quantities like blue and green

I hope you're joking. Micchi only cares about muh imoutos and kouhais and Zen hates pretty much everything automatically.
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>>15023882
I mean that I know who they are, they aren't just some randos on steam. Like I know who conjueror is, but obviously he has a conflict of interest when it comes to reviewing tokyo babel
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>>15023888
>I know who conjueror

Come absolutely random guy that only writes super short reviews about everything. What makes his opinions worth listening to in any way? Might as well listed to fucking Clephas or MDZ.
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>>15023888
>obviously he has a conflict of interest when it comes to reviewing tokyo babel
Didn't stop him tho

http://vnrw.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/vn-tokyo-babel/
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>>15023888
>>15023904
>>15023930

The only only opinion we need is Moogy's.

>SubaHibi - Official release planned, more news in 2016
>news in 2016
>april 2016
>no news yet
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Moogy-hecka-dunno.
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>>15024019
If you say his name three times, he will appear!

mugi-kun, mugi-kun, mugi-kuuuuuuun~
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>>15024034
No, I like to call him muugi muugi
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>>15020979
I thought the art was one it's selling points.
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https://youtu.be/3I3Mx9hhQgA

How did the devs even know about this band?
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>>15024019
Christmas Eve 2016.......

Jokes aside, its all up to KeroQMakura now. They're not really telling him anything and its all in their hands now on when they want to do shit. For all we know, they could be just working on it hella slow.
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>>15024019
>>15024180
It'll be out on the 20th of July.
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>>15020940
貿易商 means a trader. Why do even bother to read this shit if you cannot into Japanese?
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>>15024180
>KeroQMakura
What is the difference between KeroQ and Makura anyway?
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>>15025057
Just different brands. Most eroge companies own 2-5 brands for different game genre/theme/series.
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>>15023930
I'd hold back on the spoilers a bit if I was him.
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>>15025024
Because when I tried to put the opening into Google Translate, it didn't work.
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>>15024147
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_One_%28band%29

Wiki says one of their albums was released in Japan and they're under the EMI Japan record label. Still really strange that some random Canadian Christian band made it into an otome game.
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Wow, HunieCam Studio is even cheaper than Huniepop. That is going to outsell Tokyo Babel something fierce.
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Speaking of which, new review:

"Finished the game:
- Heroines fights are short and mostly disappointing compared to most of the fights, but the last Samael fight is top notch for me.
- Chuuni fights all over the place and no single character that has 'simple' power. Raison d'etre stuffs really helps making the fight more grand and develops characters at the same time.
- Didn't expect the slice of life scenes to be not so out of place. Can't explain it really well but it really fits the main character groups pretty well.. some of you might not like it though.
- Character endings are satisfying all around instead of just focusing on true end. I didn't expect that considering my previous experience with Higashide is Ayakashibito.
- Some characters feels like they're under developed but at least each of them has their own ending, making them not forgotten to the readers.

it's pretty okay"
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>>15026384
Seems it's still selling though.
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>>15026415
Unfortunately it fell off the popular new releases in my region (if that is indeed how it works) but let's hope it's still doing well.
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>>15026415
>Memes
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>>15026427
What's really weird is that MGR actually ISN'T tagged as memes.
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>>15026447
You can tag every modern game as Memes, honestly.
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>>15026458
http://store.steampowered.com/tag/en/Memes

And so it has been done.
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So whatever happened to Chrono clock? Has there been any news since it was announced?
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>>15026672
None. Same with Tenshin and Wagamama. For whatever reason Sekai gives absolutely no status updates on their bigger games.
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>>15026756
Sekai staus updates are usually: "The devs fucked us over so the game is going to be delayed."
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>>15026756
>For whatever reason Sekai gives absolutely no status updates on their bigger games
Probably because they are doing fuck all or having more licensing problems and over promised on something they can't deliver again.
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>>15026756
We've been over this, dovac already said on twitter that he doesn't understand why people want status updates on their projects.
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>>15026447

I guess you could say their meme tagging ended there.
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>>15027701

Speaking of tokyobabel, steamspy has finally managed to pick it up http://steamspy.com/app/443380

Still too early for any information(margin of error is higher than total sales), but the fact it actually got picked up is a good sign(if it didn't it would mean that so few people owned that their crawler never came across one.)
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>>15027740
> less than 1000 sales on steam
MG's inability to promote their games is astounding.

Search for news sites reporting releases gave me 2 results: hardcoregamer and n4g, both of which niche and irrelevant as fuck. Even ANN didn't report on launch despite reporting on licensing. Did they expect that people would see random completely unknown game for $35 with no boob bait on front screens and buy it up casually?
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>>15027839

Do you really think MG can control what news sites decide to post?
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>>15027839
steamspy does a rolling sample of all Steam's users. It takes about a week for it to even start being accurate.
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>>15027839
>(margin of error is higher than total sales)
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>>15027701
Do these sorts of things fall under fair use, or is it infringement?
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>>15027839
Not really sure. Personally I wasn't hyped up about this release
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>>15027850
MG can actually build up relationships with people in popular media instead just spamming press releases and hoping it would miraculously work out itself.
Just compare it to how media reports on every little game dovac releases.
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>>15027911
For better or worse, raymond goes after the high profile titles. Those market themselves.
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>>15027901
A key factor for considering fair use is the amount of content taken from the original work. Just being transformative by adding commentary doesn't make something fair use. That said, it hasn't been tested in courts so no one really knows.

Also, you could argue that it impacts the market of the original work.

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/overview/fair-use/four-factors/#the_amount_and_substantiality_of_the_portion_taken
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>>15027901
>Do these sorts of things fall under fair use

The internet doesn't really understand it, but fair use isn't a law, it's a defense.

That's like asking "will I get away with this murder if plead insanity?"
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>>15027922
Yeah I can see these youtube longplays being subtitutes for buying, but it's no different from "normal" piracy. And this is an issue for all kinds of games, so its not like MG is solely affected.

For me, I like having these longplays around as a sort of scene replay.
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>>15027922
>Just being transformative by adding commentary doesn't make something fair use. That said, it hasn't been tested in courts
Actually, taking someone's work, adding commentary and publishing it was tested in court and it was judged as copyright violation.
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>>15027701
And what stops MG not being spineless slimes and click that "report copyright violation" button on every video? 20 parts would earn that fucker insta-permaban.
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>>15027962
the last time they took a no tolerance stand they made a mortal enemy of sanahtlig, a very loud person
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>>15027962
Probably not wanting to be a dick. DMCA claims for gaming and LPs has been a pretty sore subject lately... even if they would be justified in doing it.
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>>15027970

sup sanahtlig
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>>15027973
Sony takes shit down when people have like 30 seconds of one of their songs in a video. MG has every right to take that entire channel down. Its like posting an entire movie that came out a week ago on youtube.
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>>15028014
Yeah, people totally expect it for music and movies. But the gaming community tends to get upset about LPs getting taken down. The Youtubers feel entitled to profit off LPs.

Nintendo's already doing it on all of their games though, unless you sign up to profit share with them, seems like people have accepted that.
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>>15028014

Sony's got access to content ID to get that shit killed quick.

All mangagamer can do is file a claim the old fashioned way. If they can be bothered.
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>>15027962

I can count 20 games (several story-driven, such as LISA, The Walking Dead) in my Steam library that I bought expressly because I watched a LP of them. And conversely, I can think of at least 5 I skipped completely because I watched a LP and saw how awful the game was.

If it's really worth the money, then videos like LP will be positive marketing for MG (assuming they don't start being dicks about it, which -always- backfires). If it's not, then LPs and such help expose that. This is especially true for a company that barely advertises.
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>>15028104
The videos mentioned by doddler arent LPs. They're 0 commentary, autoread videos for the entire game. Acceptable would be like, beginning/prologue and maybe like fight sequences, comedy sequences. But this is the entire thing, chronological from start to finish without any intent of showcasing anything. It exists only for views/money/channel popularity.
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>>15028104
Gameplay and book are different things.
There's literally zero point in "playing" VN after you watched "LP" of entire game.

Didn't MG have "only part of game" policy for LP? It was very sensible idea and this "streamer" is clearly violating it.
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>>15028104
But you didn't watch the entire game on LP right? You saw a representative sample and made a decision?
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>>15028266

No, I watched the whole thing on nearly every single one (though for some like Slime Rancher it didn't really matter). I explicitly called out the earlier games because there's effectively no replay value to them (Into The Gloom and IMSCARED are other great examples).

I bought them because I saw that they were indeed worth the money. There will always be people who just 'watch & leave', but the converse is also true. Porn is still being made, despite mass pirating. Movies and TV shows are downloaded en-mass from file-sharing sites, and the movie industry still makes billions of dollars. The music industry didn't implode when Napster and Limewire happened. That whole U2 fiasco with iTunes? Suddenly U2 sales went up. Windows is one of the most heavily pirated pieces of software around, and that's before they started giving it out for free. I'm not saying there're no limits, but it is very much in MG's favor to be lenient about them, especially when they have so little presence.
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>>15028324
At the very least there has to be a stand against monetization
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>>15028347

I personally don't even have a problem with that; not only does MG now not have to pay them to advertise their product, but it gives the channel owner an incentive to try to get as many people to watch the video as possible (and, by extension, make that many more people even aware it exists). I'd have a problem with channel owners trying to use Youtube's fucked-up takedown system against MG, and I'd be okay with MG claiming part of the Ad revenue on a video, but I don't think it's a problem in-and-of itself.

Hell, I would not even know who MG was if I hadn't pirated Shuffle (which I now own through them). I've found so many games and songs that I would've never even known I liked had I not seen LPs or stumbled upon some random pirated upload on Youtube. Discovery's critically important, and videos area a great way to reach people who don't even know they like your stuff yet (and YT will even foot the bill!).
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Fata Morgana demo is out.
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Tokyo Babel seems more charming than its perception as a generic chuuni VN. I'm liking the comedy and the flashy presentation which isn't exactly common in translated VNs.

I chuckle that the Japanese have to set a fantastical post-apocalyptic story involving angels and demons in high school though.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/441230/

Tokyo Babel looks a bit different from how I remember it...
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>>15026808
Did he really say this? MangaGamer has no problem giving status updates, what the fuck is his deal?

He obviously has no progress to speak of. That's Sekai's thing, they SUPPOSEDLY acquire high profile games but only ever actually release low quality garbage. The licenses are only to get them more attention and they have no intention of actually translatng any of those games.
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>>15029129
He posted once a screen with one english line inserted in cronoclock, so apparently there was some progress on it.
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>>15029154
I mean, I could post a screen of one English line inserted in Albatross. Doesn't mean I'm making progress. It might mean even less because I could just use Photoshop to make it.
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>>15029161
One translated line is still progress.
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So what's with all the hype for Evolimit? Why is that the Propeller VN that people talk the most about instead of Ayakashibito or Bullet Butlers or Tokyo Babel?
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>>15029161
There's even video, https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/706646215761358849
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>>15029167
That depends. How do we know it's translated? Maybe they just completely made up a line.
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>>15029170
I could make that in Renpy in five minutes tops.
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Speaking of copyright infringement, why not just report the video yourself? Any chump can send a copyright claim saying they're MangaGamer, doesn't have to be MangaGamer themselves.
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>>15029172
I've played it and prologue had something like picrelated, so its definitely not "completely" made up.

I guess I can do quick TLC on that video since I'm bored atm anyway.
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>>15029178

If you're not willing to believe that, why would you believe any progress report? It could all be lies.
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>>15029201
For one thing, MangaGamer actually goes on to release their games.
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>>15029209

Well you're consistent, but I'm more talking about that guy who was asking for a progress report. Why ask if you're not going to believe one?

Sometimes I think /jp/ goes a little bit off the deep end in their dovac hate.
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>>15029195>>15029170
Okay, I checked lines in video, and while there's no factual mistakes this time, this shit is still hilarious.
Original lines for comparison:
puu dot sh/o6KLO/72206b1faf.png Instead of throwing away details, SP now decided to make up new details
puu dot sh/o6KNv/331b2d7d7d.png nitpicking, but I hate how they handled "、か"
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puu dot sh/o6KTi/1f0a9df970.png this one is best. How the fuck you turn such simple and short phrase into picrelated monstrosity?
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>>15029228
A progress report would be the first step towards showing they can actually be believed.
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>>15029261
Why does this game have such a garbage interface? As if the standard ADV format of barely showing any text on screen wasn't bad enough, this game only shows one at a time. What the fuck? Just use NVL. Fucking hate visual novels.
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>>15029278
>As if the standard ADV format of barely showing any text on screen wasn't bad enough, this game only shows one at a time
What does this even mean? What are other options than showing "one text at a time" are there?
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>>15029288
Like this.
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>>15029295
There's still only one text displayed.
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>>15029300
It's a big paragraph instead of a single sentence.
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>>15029261
>puu dot sh/o6KTi/1f0a9df970.png this one is best. How the fuck you turn such simple and short phrase into picrelated monstrosity?

Overtranslating えーと.
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>>15029301
On >>15029261 there two sentences at once.
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>>15029301
Why would I want to read the tl;dr version instead of having ADV where I can see the characters change their expressions?
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>>15029305
Two wimpy lines of dialogue. That isn't a fucking book. This is a fucking book.
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>>15029313
It's called using your imagination instead of having every little thing spoonfed to you like the children that Chrono Clock is targeted at.
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>>15029323
Just read a real book then.
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>>15029325
A visual novel should be treated as a real book if not for the fact that most writers are incompetent. None of them attempt to emulate the good writers. Ittetsu, Higashide, Nasu.
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>>15029330
It's called a VISUAL novel for a reason.
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>>15029330
>Nasu
>good

:-)
He emulated Takahashi Tatsuya very well though, I give you that.
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>>15029336
Why won't anybody translate Kizuato?
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>>15029341
Cause EOPs don't care for it?
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>>15029228
I don't think /jp/ goes off the deep end enough.
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How long is Fata Morgana demo?
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>>15029666

Assuming chapters are of roughly equal length, about a quarter the length of the game.
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Reminder!
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>>15029190
Better idea, say you're Propeller
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If MG staff is here, you might want to lock the Shin Megami Tenshi comparison thread in the Tokyo Babel forum, it's starting to get ugly.
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>>15030102
I did the others, but you will never make me read Umineko. I don't read all-ages shit. Ever.
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>>15030222
Tensei.
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>>15030304
Dammit, I always mistype that.
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>>15030222
Not even MG staff cares about it.
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>>15030252
Same here, all ages shit are a drag unless there's doujins on sadpanda, don't like to get teased.
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>>15030222
>If MG staff is here, you might want to lock the Shin Megami Tenshi comparison thread in the Tokyo Babel forum, it's starting to get entertaining.
FTFY
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>>15030403
They need to lock the new one the guy just created as well. Now the guy is really starting to seem like a troll. He just keeps saying "Shin Megami Tensei clone, dn't buy."
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>>15030403
>The main male character of Tokyo Babel is a grown up version of the Main character from Persona 3 down to the hair color and hair style to his clothing style.
>And that's just where the similarities begin.
>I should have gone into copyright law so I could sue the thieving, unoriginal TB devs for plagarism.
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>>15030683
Ironically, Tokyo Babel has pretty much nothing to do with SMT. Someone should put that rabid retard out of his misery already.
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>>15030736
He's already banned.
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>>15030665
>Shin Megami Tensei clone
That doesn't even sound like a bad thing.
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>>15030755
He never even played Tokyo Babel, so him saying it's a clone isn't even accurate.
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All this stupid VR shit cluttering up the store page and Sekai Project tries to sneak in a ten dollar "Nekopara theme song" after most of it's out so that people still remember they exist.
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>>15030745
I still don't understand why MangaGamer doesn't post in these forums if they're around to ban people. Obviously not in threads like that, but they could at least answer questions and dismiss fears and such.

>>15030902
Based on his posts he's also barely played SMT despite claiming to be a "huge fan." False flagging, the most annoying form of trolling.
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>>15030252
>>15030384
First off, Umineko isn't all ages, it's 17+. Second, if you don't read it you have no right to give your opinion on it, so kindly fuck right off.
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Tokyo Babel isn't as bad as I thought it was going to be so far
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>>15031258
Not sure what point is being made here, but Lewdgamer is pretty garbage, almost as bad as Siliconera. Nichegamer and Gematsu are the only good ones.
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>>15031275
Why did you think it was going to be bad? It's Higashide. That's like going into a Scorsese movie expecting it to suck.
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Fata Morgana is in both Japanese and English? Nice.
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>>15031296
Looked like generic chuunige, the opening in general just seemed really lame with the shitty rock music.
I'm only a couple hours into it but it seems decent enough.
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>>15031289
The point is that literally everything in the world exists solely as an attack on Dovac. Get into his mindspace.
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>>15031342
I do think it's pretty dumb that he always talks vaguely about stuff like this without actually linking the article in question, because context would make him look like an asshole. Just so he can get some easy dick sucking from his twitter sycophants.
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Is Dovac's avatar from Aokana? Told you the anime was good.
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>>15031351
>looks like i was doxxed and harassed because people cant stand how great i am
>everyone look at how much i suffer because haters are trying to keep me down
>the internet's always harassing me like this because i'm so great
>oops, my number was just on a robocaller list

Why hasn't he abandoned Twitter again yet?
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So, how hard did Tokyo Babel bomb?
It's a god damn shame most people are only willing to throw their money to moege and nukige.
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>>15031382
Because he's too much of an attention whore and will always come back.
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>>15031406
It's actually doing a lot better than expected for a $35 plotge. If this keeps up I imagine it will do well enough to justify Bullet Butlers.
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If I were to give a reasonable estimate, I could see Tokyo Babel breaking 30,000 in the long run.
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>>15031593
>If I were to give a reasonable estimate, I could see Tokyo Babel breaking 3000 in the long run.
FTFY
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>>15031593
Is this the power of Steam?
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>>15031593
Emphasis on long run. Babel seems like one of those slow sellers that will spread with word of mouth, rather than a super hyped thing that will go big on launch.
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>>15031593
Maybe in 10 years after it's been sold for $5.
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>>15031747
Well it'll probably be featured in many sales over the years and the production values are quite high so I wouldn't say it's an entirely unreasonable estimate.
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>>15031226
Let me rephrase, I don't read shit without sexual content. Better?
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Why is MangaGamer releasing Higurashi chapters 6 months apart?
How can they keep audience interest like this?
Why would anyone wait so long to play anything that is out there for free already?

I just know they are going to do the same thing with Umineko. I'm so god damn mad right now.
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>>15030102

Yume Misu Kusuri is kind of irrelevant now, it was overhyped back in the day when there wasn't much translated content out there.
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>>15031312
I think Raziel's route was the weakest. Sorami's and Lilith's were much more interesting to me.
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>>15031540
I wonder about that, due to Steam possibly increasing its expected sales numbers and the voice cast likely being quite expensive. I really want Bullet Butlers and Evolimit.
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>>15031872
That's how it often goes for VNs with heavily suggested or enforced reading order. You gotta keep raising the stakes.
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>>15031817
It's like Undertale. Wasn't selling much at first but then people found out about it and "HOLY SHIT!" - Joseph Joestar
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>>15031836
If by "better" you mean "makes you sound like a retard who should just be watching actual porn instead of looking for it in a fucking book." Sex obsession defeats the whole purpose of a visual NOVEL.
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>>15031593

I doubt it sold 30,000 in Japan, let alone the west.
In fact I'm not sure any PC VN has been read by 30,000 in English. Tsukihime/FSN maybe, Umineko maybe but not Tokyo Babel.
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>>15031872
I read Sorami first and was let down by Raziel's.

Lilith's route was pretty balls-to-the-wall awesome, mostly because it focused on best girl (Samael) arguably more than Lilith. Still wish that when they fused, she'd be able to talk as a seperate personality in his head, but I guess that'd be too creepy. Still a great route, even if Metatron gets rekt without doing anything.
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>>15031216
>>I still don't understand why MangaGamer doesn't post in these forums if they're around to ban people. Obviously not in threads like that, but they could at least answer questions and dismiss fears and such.
steamworks developer guidelines says that the developer isn't supposed to be there to answer all the discussions. Let the customers talk to each other and only step in for specific things
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>>15031593
I doubt it'll break 2000 within a week or two. Doesn't seem to have much momentum.

>>15031312
Yeah it was pleasantly surprising for me too. >>15029023
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>>15032136
http://steamspy.com/app/333600

There are most definitely a few that have broken 30k.
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>>15032224
SP has Clannad at around 10k at $40 - $50 and Grisaia at around 18k at $20-$40

They probably have the highest selling full-price VNs.
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>>15032182
Didn't know about that, so that partly forgives it. But they're not there AT ALL. I've seen plenty of devs be a lot more active and it's gone well for them, so I think MangaGamer could stand to do more.
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>>15032254
MG occasionally replies. They just did to the topic asking about 18+.
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>>15031406
It's currently the the number 1 seller on MG's site if you ignore the bundle games and steam probably gave it at least 1000 sales? So between 1,000 and 2,000 so better then Gahkthun but so far its their worst steam release to date.
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>>15032254
The Ozmafia thread actually has a topic by MG staff while Tokyo Babel doesn't. The favoritsm is strong.
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>>15031593
Page 25 of top sellers now, no new reviews since yesterday and still at 10, community page is dead too.
Doesn't look like it sold even 1000 and it not going to, unless MG puts it on huge discount.
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>>15032282
There's just not much hype for the game in general. I think it's perceived as a generic chuuni VN so people aren't that interested.

On reddit the release announcement and other news didn't go above 50 upvotes while something like Nekopara vol 2 got 130. Other stuff like random news about Grisaia or Clannad would get 50+
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>>15032278
You'd think someone would have done a Tokyo Babel FAQ too. It's almost like they want it to fail. Conjueror translated the damn game, where is he in all this?
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>>15032332
Out shopping.
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>>15032302
This is like the second chuuni game to ever even be translated. I don't understand the lack of interest, for once we finally get something different from the hordes of moege that are always translated (even OELVNs are moege), so how the heck is it perceived as generic? FSN is the only remotely comparable VN anyone would have seen, and it's not similar at all.
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It's funny though, because Magical Eyes is doing way better and nobody's talking about that one here.
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>>15032358
Huh, never heard of it.

I really doubt it's doing "way better" though.
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>>15032369
It's, uh, in the OP image? How had you not heard of it?
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>>15032384
Because as bad as the people here describe MG's marketing, whatever there was for Magical Eyes can only be described as "non-existent"
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>>15032391
Well, its crowdfunding campaign did pretty well.
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>Tokyo Babel not doing well

lrn2advertise
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>>15032409
>that edgy religious font on the right

Is that in the original version?
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>>15032423
Shame on you for not recognizing the font.
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>>15032442
I'm sorry, I don't make a habit of learning fonts that are on the cover of fucking Eoin Colfer books.

The only important fonts are Comic Sans and Papyrus anyway.
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>>15032654
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>>15032667
That explains a lot. I mean, I've seen Diablo before but I never liked that font.
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>>15032172
Those were my sentiments about Lilith's route back when I first played it, but you're missing a lot of spoiler tags there.
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>>15032402
It didn't have one.
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>>15032358
It's likely selling worse than Tokyo Babel despite being half the price, I'm not sure why you think it's doing way better.
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>>15030403
Damn, why did MG delete both SMT threads? CENSORSHIP

I really wanted to show someone it
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願いの欠片と白銀の契約者

Translated, this says "Wishes of pieces and silver subscribers."
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>>15033094
I'm glad they actually deleted them rather than leaving them up and locked. Some idiot might have happened across those threads and gotten the wrong idea. Best to avoid any potential issue.
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Time to quote review comments.

"Nice review. This actually made me want to buy the game! It sounds like this VN is going to be awesome :sunglasses:"
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Is this okay /jp/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E65ILcALcQE
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>>15033184
I listened to that while paying this. Thanks for ruining the mood, faggot.
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>>15032355
People look at it and assume it's a clone of other existing works, like Shin Megami Tensei.
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>>15032355
Most EOPs don't actually follow eroge enough to care. Probably just you EOPs here on /jp/ do. Begs the question why don't you learn Japanese so you can stop relying on uninterested people to buy random VNs so you an get a vague promise more VNs will be translated.
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>>15032172
Lilith was great and the best heroine but Sammy was the best.

Also Leviathan.
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>>15033251
Because Japanese is a really boring language and being translated into English is what makes the VNs interesting.
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>>15033417
:-)
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Sekai Project is a lot like Funimation. Complete shit, but most people don't even realize they're ruining everything and thank them for all the "great work" they do.
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>>15031838
real answer is because they need to be re-translated. the answer arcs have a higher quality translation, so it might not take as long, but they'll need to be touched up for consistency sake (I.E., uncle mion, rika's "fighto nanodesu")

Still of the opinion that MG fucked up on the release of this one. Higurashi was the first JP VN to get greenlit, and they slept on it. Shoulda caught the boat before VNs became a dime a dozen on steam.
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>>15033662
Weren't Higurashi and Umineko released in one episode per six months pace in Japan originally?
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>>15033711
Yes, once per Comiket.
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>>15033662
Hell, Higurashi was sitting on Greenlight for years before it finally made it through. They could have been working on it for a long time. No excuse for slowness on one of the most beloved VN series of all time.
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>>15033711
>>15033792
This is technically wrong. It alternated between a short and long wait.

Onikakushi: August 10, 2002
Watanagashi: December 29, 2002
Tatarigoroshi: August 15, 2003
Himatsubushi: August 13, 2004
Meakashi: December 30, 2004
Tsumihoroboshi: August 14, 2005
Minagoroshi: December 30, 2005
Matsuribayashi: August 13, 2006

Legend - August 17, 2007
Turn - December 31, 2007
Banquet - August 16, 2008
Alliance - December 29, 2008
End - August 15, 2009
Dawn - December 30, 2009
Requiem - August 14, 2010
Twilight - December 31, 2010
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>>15033819
Only time when that happened is
>Tatarigoroshi: August 15, 2003
>Himatsubushi: August 13, 2004
according to your list.
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>>15033830
What?
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>>15032332

Probably region locked out of it.
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>>15033830
I presume he's pointing out that it's technically 5.5 months against 6.5 months because he suffers from extreme autism.
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>>15034177
Fucking Canadians.
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>>15034192
How is August to December 5 months?
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>>15034232
From the 1st of August to the 31st of December is precisely 5 months.
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>>15033711

Yeah but the difference is the Japanese had no choice but to wait 6 months. Higurashi/Umineko have English versions available out there.

MangaGamer would be making a real mistake releasing Umineko 6 months apart. Let's say they release the first part on steam this year, many players that play it and enjoy it will say "I'm not waiting 3 years for the rest of these chapters" and just go download the Witch Hunt version.
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>>15033196
How is it?
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>>15033809
They kept having issues with translators and had to scrap the former work. The new guy seems to be doing a much better job.
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>>15034981

I'm pretty sure there's no one consistently working on higurashi and the episodes are being assigned to the more transient people coming to them looking for work(of course that's not to say they're not actively pimping it with "hey, we've got this and we can pay $x000 if you're interested").

Basically just because it looks 3 is going to be done in fairly timely manner doesn't mean you can't get more delays in the future.

Also while I don't think it really matters how long mangagamer takes to release each episode now(there might have been a bit of hype they could have cashed in on releasing them closer together in the beginning, but it's long gone now), I do kind of wonder why they aren't trying to work on the titles in parallel(it's already been three different translators, so that argument is kind of out the door).

Overall though I can't really say I care about higurashi all that much so whatever they do doesn't bother me.
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>>15032355
It's too long and expensive for most people. People who buy VNs on Steam don't care about plot, most of the popular expensive and longer games have anime adaptations, so anime fans buy the VN then never read it. I mean, these are also the morons who buy censored games that have already been translated for years.
Tokyo Babel had no advertising that I could see, if it wasn't for me checking VNTS once a month I probably wouldn't have known it even came out. It's not the type of product that is easily salable to casuals, although given the length of the trial you'd think MG would have been able to get more interest in the game. The first prologue bit seems like it'd do well to attract people who like chuu2 anime, what with the nonsense names, angels, demons, and special effects, but I don't believe anyone even knows this game exists.

In any case, it's likely that the price tag coupled with it being different and having little info available is turning people off. I rarely read VNs in English anymore nowadays but I still buy most titles I have some interest in to see other things get translated for other people, but even this title i had my brother play the trial over the weekend and tell me his opinion before I decided to buy it myself.
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>>15034791
I'm only about 2 hours in.

Maid = good
Nellie and her sibling banter = shitsux
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>>15035181
I can't get the Steam overlay or screenshot function to work, which sucks since there were so many screenshot worthy moments.
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>>15035859
Same.
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>>15035859
print screen and ctrl-v
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>>15035985
Thank you. Now if only that were mentioned in a frequently asked questions section somewhere, since I was far from the only one having that issue.
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>>15036088
But that's just basic computer shit that's been in use for at least 20 years.
Do you need to consult the alphabet each time you type something?
Because that's the equivalent of having prt scr ctrl-v in a FAQ.
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Doesn't Steam only let you post screenshots that were taken in Steam with the F12 key?
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>>15036198
Not a Japanese translation. Doesn't matter.
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>>15036198
They're fine for fan tls but if official releases have them it means the translation isn't of a professional quality expected of official releases.
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>>15031593
I agree. It's a lot better than Fate so far for me and the occult/biblical references are pretty well researched. They took some liberties but I really appreciate that they didn't just slap names onto random characters. Dantalion was the character that impressed me the most so far in terms of faithfulness.


I believe it will sell more once some autists start reviewing it.
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>>15036268
SP gets a decent amount of coverage in terms of reviews and news articles releases. When I ask why MG doesn't get any coverage, people say it's because most sites don't cover 18+ content. Okay, pretty understandable. Now that they released a Steam game though, there still doesn't seem to be much coverage.

Are any sites going to review Tokyo Babel? SP has a much better handle of all the PR stuff.
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>>15036198
>shitposting, yay or nay?

I don't care either way.
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>>15036285
SP can probably afford marketing because they don't pay dick all for translations and other people take the financial risk for them. Their affiliate program sucks balls too
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>>15036312
Manga gamer's affiliate program*

Not sure if SP has one
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>>15036312
Sekai Project barely markets anything. Their releases that don't have an anime adaptation or a Kickstarter don't get much attention.
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>>15036493
Search Sound of Drop. That got a decent amount.
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How to download ?
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Supposedly XSEED has registered

http://www.fateextella.com/
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Does anyone else like to replace their h-scene music with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg ?
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>>15020149
Order Number - 186988
Order Date - 2016-04-07 08:32:00
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>>15020149
You know, wouldn't it be a lot easier if MangaGamer gave us specific sales numbers? Why don't they just do that?
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>>15037545
Most small game companies never reveal sales numbers.
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>>15037545
That would expose how poorly their games sell and make it harder to get licenses.
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>>15037545
Why should they? Nobody else ever releases specific sales numbers, unless its something very good for marketing, like "we sold XXXX millions copies!".

>>15037558
You are retarded. They provide sales data and sales expectations when negotiating.
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>>15037558
You guys keep saying this but they wouldn't keep translating and selling them if they weren't making money.

Stop being such negative morons
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>>15037573
Making money isn't the same as selling well.
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>>15037576
K
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https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/717552896926048256
While MG keeps removing DRM from their games, dovac decides to add it.
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>>15037619
Does anyone seriously think weakass DRM will prevent piracy in this day? I thought MG only adds DRM at the insistence of the original license holders demand. If someone cares enough about the VN it'll get cracked within a day, just like how every single Japanese VN has a crack.
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>>15037026
Click download.
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>>15037631
It's to prevent normies from sharing with their friends.
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>>15037619
> Implying I'll ever give SP money.

Shitty, hilariously mismanaged company filled with kikes who Kickstarts everything and neglects uncensored releases. Can't justify spending a single dollar on them, even if I like some of the games they license.

That said, I've bought quite a few MG titles, mostly only stuff I enjoyed after pirating. Yurirei, Tokyo Babel, KnS (1/2), Evangile, etc.
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https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/717831774672269312

If you guys hate SP so much, why not license your own top tier games?
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>>15037731
Does he include the bribes using kickstarter money?
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>>15037731
Its amusing how dovac simply doesn't have any ability to learn at all.
"Getting license" is not endgoal, "releasing high quality product and making profit from it" is. You can never reach it if you license on shit terms and hire incompetent undergrads to "translate" it.
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>>15037759
Him getting high profile licenses is exactly what allows him to keep getting more though.

And not everyone cares that much about quality.
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>>15037759
Quite simply, nobody who knows Japanese will tell the Japanese devs that SP's releases are shitty.
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>>15037564
>They provide sales data and sales expectations when negotiating.

So what do you think they said for Tokyo Babel? Did they predict too high and Propeller is gonna be pissed?
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>>15037619
That is such an awful use of the Hamlet quote. I bet he feels like he's so clever, even though he still types in an autistic and hurried way when he's quoting something else.

DRM is such a non-issue that it's laughable that these companies still insist on using it.
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The japanese are too bad at English to know what good English is so SP will always be able to release garbage TLs and continue to get sales and licenses.

Even when people know that the translation is bad, they will still read/buy it since most people have the ideology of "It's better to have it bad than to not have it at all" for these types of things. People are too being desperate for fansubs and now people are desperate for official licenses.
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>>15037773
Someone needs to rise up and tell them. Just look at chuablesoft siding with MangaGamer instead of sekai after Twitter users educated him.
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>>15037815
What happened to that anyway? Has he talked about his games getting translated recently?
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>>15037792
I dunno, do the licenses have royalties as a large part? Typically they just pay a large fee upfront. That's how it worked for anime licenses 10+ years ago at least.
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>>15037814
Honestly all SP needs is one fucking failed project. One project that isn't funded because people say enough is enough. They would at least try to improve their quality if they get fucked. But no, it won't happen because 95% of VN readers are autistic as hell and can't tell when they're being taken advantage of.
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>>15037792
Maybe they used Cho Dengeki Stryker as an example, if so, then I doubt their expectations were too high.
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>>15037815
They just said they'd look into other options, not that they weren't still planning on going with Sekai Project.
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>>15037545

Man there's been some dumb shit said in this thread this week, but this sure takes the cake.
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>>15037829
In past interviews, MG says they try not to pay much upfront since they can't afford to, and instead split the costs and profits with the developers.
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>>15036211
yes its japanese chinese eng translation but that doesnt mean tl notes arent needed
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>>15037767
Bitch, please. Sekai Project had one high profile license: Clannad. And Visual Arts has now broken off to do their own thing because they realized SP is unnecessary. Sekai Project doesn't have the money to get anything big. It's OELVNs and indie trash.
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>>15037773
but on the other hand, people who know japanese aren't going to need localization anyway
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>>15037872
Clannad
Grisaia
G-Senjou?
Maitetsu?
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>>15037851
Which other posts do you have in mind? I'm wondering how many of them are mine.
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>>15037888
Lmao did they even release the second grisaia game yet?
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Grisaia and G-Senjou were both the last hurrahs of dying companies. Their only worthwhile titles, and only able to be released so easily because of existing fan translations. Guess when we're going to see Meikyuu and Rakuen? Never.

Maitetsu is not high profile and you know it. Were you just desperate to name something?
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>>15037898
Does it mater for the argument? They can go to Japanese devs with names like Clannad and Grisaia on their belt, and they'd think "oh yeah they know what they're doing" and keep scoring more good stuff.

The Japanese companies aren't going to check reddit or fuwanovel or /jp/ to see people complaining about SP. They'll just see their Steam releases which did decently.
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>>15037902
Those two names can only last so long. Eventually they'll be asked "So what else have you done?" And Dovac will only be able to stutter something unintelligible before leaping out the window to his death.
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>>15037902
I don't care about the argument
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>>15037913
Well, we're talking about SP's ability to get licenses. Your perception of SP doesn't matter for that process. I'm talking about how Japanese companies would perceive SP.
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>>15037921
Stop arguing with that idiot. Your true enemy is right here in front of you. It's been too long, my old friend...
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>>15037921
I was just asking if it was released sperg
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>>15037927
My bad.
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Fuck this current discussion. Did you guys see that the Wagahigh anime is a 5 minute short? What the fuck are they thinking? How will they possibly be able to adapt a visual novel into that kind of anime? What the heck kind of show are they intending to make it? I don't get it.

And the reason I ask here is, do you think Sekai Project had anything to do with it?
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>>15037944
It's an advertisement
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>>15037944
Sekai Project may have heard about an anime and decided to license the vn, but I wonder if they would've known that it was only a short. That likely won't attract much hype.
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>>15037890

Your current runner up right now is >>15027839 considering the post it's replying to specifically states the information isn't accurate yet, and as expected the numbers have been climbing since(infact, it's very nearing 1k coincidentally).

But overall I feel like this weeks vntls has just had dumber arguments usual. Like the current one going on about dovac. Do we really need to stalk his twitter 24/7 just to get angry at the newest tweets?

Well, threads autosaging so whatever I guess.
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>>15037976
Tokyo Babel might hit 1k within a week, but I wouldn't say it's doing all that well.

Looking at concurrent players, it's just 30 people max which is extremely little for a long game. Something like Grisaia was at 50 - 130 for months.

http://steamcharts.com/app/443380
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>>15037992
It will be a slow burn release imo
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>>15038003
Most likely another Cho Dengeki Stryker scenario where it doesn't start selling well until it's 50% off.
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>>15037992

It's concurrent players mirrors CDS's pretty well(slightly better actually) so I expect it sell around that level, which was about 1.4k or so before it got a million sales if I recall. That's not blowing the doors down anything but it's respectable enough. Mangagamer's probably made money on it. Whether willplus is happy could be a different story.
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>>15038013
>Tokyo Babel 977 ±779

>Cho Dengeki Stryker 5,050 ±1,772
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>>15038026

Anonymous, use your head for a second. A game that's been out for a year and a half vs a game that's been out for less than a week.

This is what I was talking about with the dumb shit in this thread this week.
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>>15038051
I didn't say anything. Just posting to show that your claim of a million sales was way off.
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>>15038056

Million sales as in going on sales a million times.

Are you mentally challenged?
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>>15038063
A million sales makes it sound like it sold a million copies.
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>>15038063
>before it got a million sales
Should be before it was in a million sales, or was on sale a million times.
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>>15038069

Literally a comment above mine talks about CDS going on sale.

Maybe if english isn't your first language, or you've got a brain tumor that makes it difficult to follow a conversation
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>>15038083
Their phrasing of that sentence was awkward regardless of what some other anon posted before them.
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>>15038086

Brain tumor, gotcha.
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>>15038083
I'm the guy you replied to and I thought you meant it had a shitload of sales, as in copies sold. Calm down and just realize it's ambiguous.
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>>15037976
On the bright side, none of them were my posts. I do agree that the Twitter stalking is dumb and it's presumably just some idiot trying to piss people off, not unlike the "lol guys look at Insem's tweets I'm such a troll" idiot. Quite possibly the very same person.
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Why is some guy who came to these threads last week telling us we can't shit talk dovac?
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>>15038129
That is dovac.
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>>15038133
Anyway, pretty funny he's making fun of people's English when "being on sale a million times" is clearer and more normally said.
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Is there an easy way to extract the tokyo babel japanese script? I'd like to compare with the translation side by side.
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>>15038228
Google "Script Extractor Plus".
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Fata Morgana FAQ
http://steamcommunity.com/app/303310/discussions/0/371918937280443046/

The main page still isn't tagged for trading cards btw, so most people will just take a cursory look and assume it doesn't have them. So, they might want to correct that.
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>>15038490
Kaitsu's pretty good, about damn time someone from MangaGamer actually does some PR. Also knows who best girl is based on that avatar.
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>>15037992
It will hit 1,000 or so on steam before its release sale goes away, plus some 500~ or so copies from MG's site. Unlike Chou, all the Babel sales are actual sales so it's probably done a little better then Chou when that came out.

Tokyo Babel is probably a success for MG(it still did better then Gahkthun after all), but just like Haruka the main question is did it do well enough for the parent company to be satisfied?
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>>15037921
>SP's ability to get licenses
This "license fetish" dovac and community has is weird.
There's no magical "license getting ability" of SP, its just they agree to terms which other companies see unacceptable, like short timeframe for release, creative control, cost & royalties, license period and many more.
When MG thinks they cannot properly translate game or get enough profit under terms jp side suggests, they bargain and eventually refuse if jp side doesn't back down.
When dovac negotiates, he agrees on everything jp side asks, even if its outright impossible, like "translate and release this 3mb game in several months time" or nor beneficial for his company, like frontwing's "we get all the money from KS and all the money from steam sales while retaining all control and rights".
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>>15038565
Plus I can't imagine the companies are very happy about Dovac constantly breaking promises and delaying work and so on. I heard Frontwing was pretty fucking mad when they found out SP claimed to have rights to the Grisaia soundtrack. And this is on top of Herkz shit talking the company. Frontwing must have been really happy to drop SP.
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>>15038529
Word has it that Liar-soft was still satisfied with Gahkthun's sales so it seems to me that most of these companies have really low sales expectations, all things considered. Hell, not like they do very well in Japan to begin with.
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>>15038683
>I heard Frontwing was pretty fucking mad

Were they? I mean I wouldn't be surprised but weren't they the ones who tried to sell the OST on Steam first? I recall SP being mad but didn't read anything about Frontwing.
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>>15038700
Well, they did that because they had no deal with SP for the soundtrack and wanted to make some more money off Grisaia. I don't know why SP'd be mad, they're the ones who lied. Mad that the truth came out, maybe?
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>>15038529
>>15038695
Propeller isn't Alicesoft anyway
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>>15038750
I think it's kind of funny that Alicesoft has the highest expectations for sales when nukige is such garbage that only dick-for-brains idiots care about. Maybe it's not so unusual, though. Of course the people who write thoughtful stories would be more reasonable than this "HURR DURR RAPE" company.
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>>15038791
Nukige is what sells though. Euphoria seems to be MG's most successful release in a while.
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>>15038791
Nukige is what sells best for Mangagamer though.
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>>15038796
Then by that logic, shouldn't Haruka have sold enough to satisfy Alicesoft and lead to Rance?
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I'm reading Conjueror's ask.fm because he seems like a cooler person to obnoxiously parrot the opinions of than Moogy, and he said that Dies Irae is boring. What's up with that?
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>>15038791
>otome reader shitting on other people's hobbies
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>>15038830
You got a beef with otome, buddy? Otome games are for the truly intellectual readers. No fanservice, no bullshit, just good plot, strong female protagonists and men getting shit done.
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>>15038822
I think you need to reading comprehension more good
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>>15038837
>strong female protagonists
>otome

If you're going to troll, at least get your facts straight
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>>15038839
I think you're the one who needs reading comprehension.
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>>15038841
In most otome games you can literally kill one or more of the male protagonists. Bet you didn't know that, because you haven't played any.
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>>15038822
Can we make him the new moogy?
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>>15038849
We should. Unlike Moogy, he has actually done something for this community and has translated multiple lengthy games.
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>>15038844

Hahaha, good one.
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>>15038864
No, he hasn't.
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>>15038930
>NO U

Care to provide some evidence for your claim, mate? Or are you just shitposting?
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>>15038935
He's HELPED translate one medium length game, you dumb shitstain.
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>>15038942
He's translated TWO games and is working on a third, you fucking cockgobbler.
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>>15038822
Dies Irae's main theme is that everything is known and follows the same path (that is the main reason why the villains want to destroy the world) and its plot reiterates the idea (Mercurius keeps blabbing how the plot "of their opera" is the height of cliche) which results in delivering a damn strong message, but doesn't make for a particularly riveting story (it is deliberately predictable).

Dies Irae is more about the theatrics and details that surround its story than the story itself, which on its own is just a simple "guy gets super powers and fights it out with the strongest beings in the universe while reciting poetry" ride. Most of the fun of Dies lies in "why" or "how" rather than in "what" is happening.
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>>15038942
Who's working on Himawari?
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>>15038970
If he's not working on Himawari, and you're not working on Himawari, then who's driving this car?
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>>15038529
Considering that propeller is pretty much dead after their latest game bombed really hard (and it had quite big production values) I think that making at least some money back is a great prospect for them.
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>>15038986
Wasn't that the game with like 8 different writers? How could it actually have turned out that horribly though?
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>>15038963
>ignore statement
>double down on being an idiot
>everything not released counts

Well, shit then. I've translated 50 lengthy VNs.
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>>15038966
That honestly sounds pretty great to me. A perfect example of something where the experience itself is the vital part, and how reading a plot summary on the internet can't begin to capture its essence (rather, it sounds like even if you spoil the plot that doesn't really spoil the experience). Even if I learn Japanese before it happens, I hope it gets an English release just to increase the number of people who will read it.
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>>15038991
You don't work for an established company that would shit fury down your throat if you lied about your progress. What you say is not verifiable, but what Conjueror says is. And Tokyo Babel is long.
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>>15039002
TB is less than 2mb, its "medium" at maximum, closer to "short" side. Long VNs are those which are at least 3mb.
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Conjueror.

The same asshole who keeps saying that Fuwanovel machine translations look great.

The same Conjueror who looked at a Fuwanovel fuckup of Baldr Sky's first chapter that got every single cyberpunk term wrong as well as didn't even recognize the Russian and German in it, and said it looked really good.

You want to call that guy some kind of translation authority?
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>>15039009
TIL 50 hours is short.
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>>15039011
Please, tell me what makes Moogy such a translation authority.
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You're trying too hard again, Ti9.
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>>15039023
Whoops, missed the post.

>>15039011
You're trying too hard again, Ti9.
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>>15039013
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>>15039039
Can't read that shit.
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>>15038987
It was written by a company that provided this team of writers... and it looks like their other works also aren't doing that well (Alpha Ride).
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>>15038817
Alicesoft are a much bigger company than MGers other partners plus there was the whole shit with the credit cards and the game getting out on rutracker before people could even buy the game via creditcard

It probably did do well enough to get another Alicesoft nukige
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>>15039039
So the same length as Grisaia, then?
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Hey, so what the fuck happened with Himawari anyway? Wasn't the translation announced as FINISHED like a year ago? What's the holdup? Editing can't possibly take that long, so there's gotta be another reason.
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>>15039055
Damn Grisaia was long as fuck. 30 hr would be a pretty fast read of it.
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>>15039055
Isn't Grisaia widely hailed as one of the longest VNs ever written? Mediumfag got BTFO.
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>>15039056
Frontwing is still trying to make it work on english windows without crashing.
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>>15039060
>Isn't Grisaia widely hailed as one of the longest VNs ever written?
No.
Its not even near truly long stuff, France Shojo is almost 2x longer.
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>>15039055
How does it compare to F/SN? That shit was long as hell to read.
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>>15039062
Is that really the reason? How is Frontwing having trouble with something that most fan translation projects breeze through? Shit, fan TLs fix bugs that were in the original game.
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>>15039070
Just look at how long frontwing stalled Grisaia release.
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>>15039048
>空蝉座のシナリオならCtrl押して読んでも大丈夫だろう
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>>15039002
http://tlwiki.org/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Script_sizes
Tokyo Babel 1.82mb
For comparison:
Grisaia no Kajitsu 3.73mb
France Shoujo ~Une fille blanche~ 5.51mb
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>>15039069
F/SN is 54 hours on that side. You English plebs shouldn't try to compare yourselves to Japanese speed readers.
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>>15039054
Cool. So we're getting Rance?
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>>15039091
>speed reading a VN

That's why EGS is full of shit. They aren't reading for comprehension, they're reading to brag about how fast they can click their mouse.
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>>15039090
F/SN 3.85 seemed a lot longer to me (~100 hrs) than Grisaia 3.73. I don't even know what to think anymore.
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>>15039120
> clicking with mouse instead Ctrl押して読んで
That's why you plebs will never get to patricians level.
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>>15039070
Fan translations generally don't attempt to work in an English locale, instead they just tell everyone to switch to a Japanese locale. This is not really an option for official releases.
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>>15039135
The mouse is why it takes them 50 hours. Duh?
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>>15038695
Where did you hear that Liar Soft were okay with Gahkthun's sales? I know they're happy with Yurirei but I haven't seen anything about them being happy about Gahkthun.
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>>15039182
He pulled it out of his own ass. There's no way anyone sane would have been happy with Gahkthun's sales.
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>>15039134
FSN had shit pacing
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>>15039185
Do you know how much Gahkthun sold? No? Then shut your fucking mouth.
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A certain Japanese visual novel with "Notes" in the title received a surprise English translation.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/435360/
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>>15039202

Gahkthun bombed. Fucking deal with it.
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>>15039227
> doujin shit nobody ever heard about
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>>15039090
OreTsuba from MG when?
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>>15039259
And yet it will sell far more than that game you want to do well.
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>>15039351
> 4 reviews
> page 8 "top selles" less than 24 hours after release
It already bombed.
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>>15039250
Considering website sales are never on the level of Steam sales, it would take some retardedly huge leaps in logic to justify the claim that Gahkthun "bombed."
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>>15039371
So it didn't bomb because... it sold worse?
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>>15039367
Tell that to Tokyo School Life, cocksucker.
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>>15039376
...

I don't think you understand a thing about sales.
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>>15039381
> Tokyo School Life > 19710 units sold at $14.99
> eden* > 60000 units sold at $20

> The Men of Yoshiwara: Kikuya > 4724 units sold at $30
> Kindred Spirits on the Roof > 6000 units sold at $35

> Campus Notes > less than 100 units sold at $10
> Tokyo Babel > 1000 units sold at $35

Yep, typical no-name doujin shit that doesn't sell anywhere near as proper company. And seems they are hiring deficient, 3rd-rate shills for "promotion", just like their deficient writers and artists.
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>>15039404
>And seems they are hiring deficient, 3rd-rate shills for "promotion", just like their deficient writers and artists.

What the fuck are you talking about, and why are you so salty?
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>>15039404
Eden has been in a bundle for about $2 so you cannot reasonably use its numbers for anything. TSL has seen no bundles and still managed respectable numbers.
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https://ask.fm/Conjueror/answers/135470766299
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>>15031226
>>15032134
Holy shit this retarded R07fag fired up as shit lmao.

Umineko sucks. It has an awful reputation and killed R07's career for a reason.
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>>15039660
Wow, people aren't interested in trashy, bottom of the barrel chuunige with no porn. Who woulda thunk?
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>>15039952
Why would you need porn in chuunige?
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I don't think anyone particularly cares WHAT Dovac says, but it's pretty annoying that he says everything like it's some sort of groundbreaking revelation. Especially since most of the time it's still flat out wrong. He just wants his Twitter followers to tell him he's so right and so handsome to stroke his fragile ego.
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>>15039952
TM, nitro+, light, and propeller are the four biggest chuunige makers in the industry. If propeller is bottom of the barrel for you, then there's pretty much nothing but Dies Irae left.
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>>15039660
Fug. Titles I actually buy always fucking bomb. Gahkthun bombed. TB bombed. I'm pretty fucking sure Bokuten will bomb.
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>>15040508
Everything bombs it seems.

Meanwhile we all hate SP but at least their stuff like Grisaia and Clannad sells 10k+ on Steam at $30.
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>>15040509
>their stuff
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>>15040509
That was before Steam was flooded with shitty VNs. Now most VNs on Steam are shit or censored and people jut got tired of it.
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>>15039339
If their partnership with Navel is truly over, then never.
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>>15040508
Don't worry, Bokuten's getting an all-ages release on Steam, so it should sell okay.
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>>15039660
>Buy Tokyo Babel and Gahkthun to get Dies Irae.
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>>15039952
Tokyo Babel's a decent vn even without porn, plus if it sells bad, then Bullet Butlers and Evolimit won't likely ever be translated.
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>>15040692
And Kouryuu is likely writing a press release filled with all the correct buzzwords bragging about everything they get away with in the Steam release to take care of coverage.
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>>15040706
It worked for Kindred Spirits.

They should've done on for Tokyo Babel and how heretical it is.
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>>15039660
Dies Irae will likely get license by someone to take advantage of the anime next year. Good luck for other lower profile titles though.
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>>15040719
Tokyo Babel should play up its waifus more. There's plenty of fanservice to be had. Maid cafe, carrying the girls princess style, etc. The endings are usually pretty romantic too.
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>>15040737
You're hired as head of marketing for MG. When can you start?
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>>15040742
Saturday. I also require to be paid at least $10 an hour, otherwise I'd be better off getting a job at Walmart.
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>>15040742
In Tokyo Babel you can choose to date one of three apocalyptic beauties.

Will you lead the airheaded and innocent angel, Raziel, to the answers she seeks?

Will you protect the energetic and carefree human girl, Sorami, for as long as she needs you?

Will you follow the seductive demoness, Lilith, through unknown trials to prove your devotion?

It's a love apocalypse! And it's now available on Steam!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/443380
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Sekai adding meme's to their "translations" https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/717924557986725888
Top quality product
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>>15040838
Fight alongside your love in battle against: angels, demons, super humans, otherworldly beasts.

Are you willing to slay even God to stay by your beloved's side?

No force in the universe can possibly keep the two of you apart.
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>>15040844
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>>15040889
Not just memes but old as fuck memes that stopped being funny ages ago, eh?
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>>15040844
>>15040894

He posted the original line was 肘に矢を受けてしまってな……
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>>15040838
I'd rather have Samael. Her parts in the last route were the best.
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>>15039903
>Umineko sucks. It has an awful reputation and killed R07's career

How can you be this delusional?
Whether you like it or not, it has a great reputation and helped R07's career a lot.
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>>15041009
And it has a loli. Tokyo Babel is truly a romantic adventure story for the ages.
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>>15040920
That says elbow not knee. Nice translation.
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>>15039903
Way to just completely make shit up. Fuck you, idiot. Umineko is far above any of the other games in that list and avoiding it just because it's "all ages" (HURR DURR) shows how fucking stupid you are. Just because they don't have out of place sex scenes doesn't mean they're holding back on the rest of the content.
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>>15039660
>Guess Dies Irae will forever remain but a dream. xD

Note the xD. He's joking about this because he's already working on it.

Really, everyone knows that TB's sales have nothing to do with Dies Irae. Licensing Dies Irae would be like licensing Fate/stay night or Steins;Gate. Its name is enough to carry its sales, because it's one of the most hyped VNs for western players. The trouble isn't getting it to sell, but getting the license.
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>>15041767
The trouble is the actually the translation difficulty as well as the length.
Which is why nobody has ever tried to translate before compared to other highly regarded works
Baldr: C&D
Muramasa: Peter Payned
Subahibi: done
WA2: BakaTsuki machine TL
C+C and MLA : ixrec'd
Umineko: done
Eustia: group died
Dies Irae: Aside from fight scenes for practice by conj/gare, no actual project attempt
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>>15041549
To be entirely fair, elbows are basically knees but on the arm.
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>>15041805
>Baldr: C&D
source?
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>>15041805
Someone like Conjueror would have no trouble translating Dies Irae if he had the go-ahead to do so. Which he most likely does, but hasn't revealed yet. You can feel his excitement about it.

>Subahibi: done

I doubt it.
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>>15041883
Just some bullshit Futsuu made up to justify being a lazy asshole, it's not true. In actuality Futsuu was too intimidated by the size of the game (confirmed by Moogy in a reddit comment) because it would have required him to actually do work instead of stealing CR/Funi translations and calling it a day.
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>>15041868
Nope. Other than being hinge joints there are some differences. Also the knee joint is designed to be weight bearing compared to the elbow joint so is larger, plus also has a cap over the top of it.
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>>15041805
>Baldr: C&D
We still might get Force some day with Aroduc.
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>>15041938
Aro "I hate this game and that's why I'm totally maybe going to translate it" Duc? Probably not.
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>>15041962
That was Sky. He said he kinda liked Force.
http://tenka.seiha.org/2015/08/that-other-completely-broken-giga-game-that-i-sort-of-like/
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>>15041979
"Kinda liked," what a great guarantee of translation. I'm sure we can count on Aroduc!

Force doesn't even look very good. If we don't get Sky I don't give a fuck.
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>>15041227
>Whether you like it or not, it has a great reputation and helped R07's career a lot.
How can you be this delusional? Nobody in Japan reads anything he does anymore. Rose Gun Days, Higanbana and Iwahime all sold poorly and they have hardly any reviews on EGS.
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>>15041889
You're underestimating the difficulty of translation and overestimating his skills. "his excitement" could be for any large game. You're just reading it into being Dies even though theres no evidence specifically pointing to it. You can put all your faith in it but its not going to turn into Dies.

>>15041938
He wanted to do force but it wouldn't run on his computer. Its very unlikely he's going to downgrade windows any time ever. Its also very likely everybody is using W7+ now so even if it were done, barely anybody could play it. Until Giga does a restoration, it's dead forever.
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>>15042040
>everybody is using W7+ now so even if it were done, barely anybody could play it
I know it is possible to run Duel Savior in windows 10 if you use wine Libraries for graphics so I don't see why it would be impossible to get Force running as well.
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>>15042040
Dude, he translated Tokyo Babel and it was awesome. Pretty confident about his skills.

>You're just reading it into being Dies even though theres no evidence specifically pointing to it.

He keeps talking about Dies specifically.
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>>15042040
>>15042096
Aroduc should just do Atlach Nacha instead. Are you listening, Aroduc? Do Atlach Nacha.
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>>15042161
>He keeps talking about Dies specifically.
He's been talking about Dies for years because he really likes it, newfag.
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HEY PUNKS! Who's the translator for Fata Morgana?
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>>15042214
Black Dragon Hunt. He did the fan TL for Danganronpa.
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>>15042203
And that's why he's translating it.

>newfag

Are you fucking 12 years old?
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>>15042220
Oh good, I really liked DR's fan translation.
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>>15041991
He "kinda liked" force. He "really liked" how much translating Force would piss off Sky fans.
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>>15042437
Translating a game to piss people off! Such great motivation! A project like that will certainly get done. (It won't.)
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>>15041991
That is actually a form of high praise from him considering he hates nearly everything.
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>>15042161
He's been talking about it because blindl belief holding people like you keep asking him questions about it and talking to him about it.
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>>15042642
He should translate WA2.
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>>15042173
Atlach Nacha and Daiakuji are too old to be localised so the dream died last July
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http://tenka.seiha.org/2016/03/a-collection-of-random-translation-notes-from-seinarukana/#comment-112946

Don't support translations that don't show respect for chuuni culture.
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>>15043165
>complaining about honorifics being removed
Yeah, opinion disregarded.
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>>15043165
Seeing that Jast released the prequel already, and that Aroduc only worked on this project for Jast instead of as a fanTL, it would be strange if Jast just let Aroduc do whatever he wanted instead of trying to maintain some consistency when warranted. Although this probably become more relevant after Aroduc was done with the scripts with Jast having a short release gap between the two on Steam
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Frontwing is doing an English Kickstarter for Sharin no Kuni,

>Frontwing will begin gathering funds for an official “Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shojo” localization project on Kickstarter in June 2016.

>Bishojo game developers Frontwing and AKABEi SOFT2 have collaborated to bring the project to life. Project management and reward fulfillment will be handled by Tokyo Otaku Mode.
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>>15043392
What a joke.
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>>15043392
This can't be real right?
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>>15043392
Wow wee, a big company need money from poor plebs.
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>>15043392
Wasn't the Sharin no Kuni translation pretty mediocre?

I can't imagine that many people being interested in paying for another translation though.
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>>15043392
Dovac picked the wrong series to do a Kickstarter for, created himself stiff future competition.
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>>15043407
I think a KS for niche products makes a lot of sense because it's also an indicator of interest. If fans can't promise with their wallets that they'd be interested in something, it's likely that a normal release would have flopped anyway.
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This news is from the FrontwingINT's FB.
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>>15043392
Oh god, they are replicating. Next thing we know, Key/VA is going to launch KS for F/SN.
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>>15043414
In addition, a KS is a self-hyping machine that continually makes news that draws people's interest over the course of months.

Compare a KS marketing campaign to something like Mangagamer's releases with Kara no Shoujo 2 or Tokyo Babel. People completely forget about MG's releases because no one talks about them other than the announcement or release. Meanwhile, a KS campaign might make the news on a weekly basis.

Sure, it might be a shitty business model for the consumer, and you might expect a publisher to upfront the cost of producing the game... but the difference in marketing for these niche games is really big.
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>>15043392
So not only Frontwing told sekai to fuck off, but they also cucked sekai's partners?
This shit is hilarious, dovac literally created monster that will kill him.
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Wait, that Ti9 shitpost about expertly interpreting machine translations was an actual copypasta from sanahtlig?
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https://forums.sekaiproject.com/forum/community/news-and-announcements/362-april-2016-q-a-livestream

Submit your questions for SP's Q&A
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>>15043466
Yes. There's also tyr, prominent vndb and fuwa member, who reached expert MTL interpreter levels.
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>>15043466
>Just because the translation is wrong, doesn't mean...that the reader will get the wrong idea.

┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌
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>>15043466
This make my brain bleed.
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https://twitter.com/sfgp0408

Official Sharin no Kuni localization twitter

herkz thinks they're going to use the fan TL
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>>15043601
One of fantl team members confirmed that they will use fantl, frontwing contacted them months ago.
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>>15043618
Kickstarting using an existing fantl. Man, they really are another SP.
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>>15043601
Of course they are going to use the fanTL, redoing the translation would not be in line with a fast cash grab
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>>15043447
Probably works out worse in general though, Sekai Project at least does have bare minimum quality control and will entertain feedback, Frontwing won't give a fuck. Look back at what happened with Idol Mahou Shoujo Chiruchiru Michiru
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>>15043466
Sanahtlig is a stupid motherfucker. He is the enemy of visual novel translations. Never forget sanahtlig.
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>>15043674
>Sekai Project at least does have bare minimum quality control and will entertain feedback
Since when?
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>>15043684
Even people on reddit hate him.
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>>15043685
Good question. It's exceedingly clear that they do absolutely no editing. OriginalRen even said as much about Astro, did you know that? So it's been confirmed.
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>>15043685
By entertain he means that they'll ignore any feedback or criticism until it boils over and then blame one of their partners.
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>>15043688
Redditors HATE him! Learn how to read machine translations with this weird trick!
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>>15043685
They are retranslating Hoshizora no Memoria, I doubt Frontwing would have gave a fuck.
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>>15043704
>They are retranslating Hoshizora no Memoria

...No, they actually are not. Where the fuck did you hear that?
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>>15043711
He means they're rewriting every line of the fan translation like they did for Clannad.
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>>15043714
Yeah, that is true.
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>>15043711
Well, insem didn't know about SP's plans so they didn't contact him. And I highly doubt they'd just use a fan TL without asking for it.

https://twitter.com/StaircaseSubs/status/698787634735218688
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>>15043721
>And I highly doubt they'd just use a fan TL without asking for it.

Haha, where did you get so much blind faith in SP? What reason have they given you to trust them? Insem can do literally nothing if they use his translation, which they will.
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>>15043721
They legally can't use it without acquiring the rights to it.
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>>15043724
SP might be shitty but they're not that shitty.

>>15043730
Well, it's a gray area since the fan TL was copyright infringement in the first place.
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>>15043721>>15043730
Same original material implies that every translation would be very similar in the first place, you just need to apply some "editing" to fantl and nobody could prove you used it.
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>>15043734
>SP might be shitty but they're not that shitty.

You think so? They've done it before.

>Well, it's a gray area since the fan TL was copyright infringement in the first place.

And this. What's Insem gonna do, sue them? LOL
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>>15043744
NISA actually did this to the translation of Danganronpa 1. It was word for word the same as the fan TL in a couple places but nobody noticed because they came up with kooky shit like "Genocide Jill" and "THE BLACKENED."
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>>15043745
It'd just be bad practice in general. SP hasn't gone that far. Point out any situation where they stole someone else's work like that.
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>>15043755
Clannad.
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>>15043685
Compared to what other Japanese companies have released on their own. Sekai Project has done a rather poor job on a lot of things, however they wouldn't have put out If My Heart Had Wings or the crap Debonosu Works is pulling. And despite how much Dovac complains about it, Denpasoft is still a thing.

It's not so much recognition of Sekai Project as a good company, but expecting Frontwing to be worse.
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>>15043757
What, you're saying it was a re-edit of the original fan TL?

People already posted several lines showing it's not a paraphrase.
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>>15043711
https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/700463236534013952

Dovac explicitly said they aren't using the fanTL for Hoshizora no Memoria shortly after picking up the title.
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>>15043766
>And despite how much Dovac complains about it, Denpasoft is still a thing.

Where the fuck does he get off complaining about it, anyway? "Oh no, I can actually make some more money by selling 18+ games. Woe is me!"
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>>15043766
>however they wouldn't have put out If My Heart Had Wings or the crap Debonosu Works is pulling
Except for all those times they did.
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>>15043781
Wow, good thing Dovac has never lied!
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>>15043721
BTW, does anyone else find it funny that Insem calls it a "waste of resources"? As if his patch is worth reading. The game has essentially not been translated, how the fuck would a new translation be a waste? Similarly, I don't think anyone would complain if someone did a new translation for Sharnoth, or Cross Channel. Yeah, there are plenty of untranslated gems. Including some that have English patches already.
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>>15043868
What a huge exaggeration. Just because it wasn't a direct Japanese to English translation doesn't mean it had "essentially not been translated" into English. I certainly think his patch was worth reading and Hoshimemo is fairly often recommended for English readers.

A few lines might have been poorly done or unintelligible, but that doesn't make the whole thing worthless. People don't say to avoid Hoshimemo due to its translation unlike for Cross Channel or something like If My Heart Had Wings.
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>>15043889
>People don't say to avoid Hoshimemo due to its translation unlike for Cross Channel or something like If My Heart Had Wings.

That's because barely anyone has actually read Hoshimemo. Nothing to do with the quality of its TL.
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>>15043904
>That's because barely anyone has actually read Hoshimemo. Nothing to do with the quality of its TL.
That's just false. Hoshizora is #20 on vndb popularity, which is a good indicator for English popularity.

It has almost 3000 votes which is pretty similar to most translated VNs.

Compare it to another 2012 translation I randomly picked, Period, which has popularity ranked #160 and only 400 votes. That's definitely a VN that wasn't very popular since it's rarely discussed.
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>>15043924
Did Period have a good translation?
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>>15043937
Yes.
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>>15043945
So there you have it.
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>>15043734
>Well, it's a gray area since the fan TL was copyright infringement in the first place.

When will the gray area meme die? If you create a translation you have ownership of it. Just because you're committing copyright infringement doesn't mean that your rights to your work are magically transferred to someone else or are annulled, it just means you can be subject to punishment depending on what you do with it.
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Some Steam pleb put a Propeller vn on Greenlight. The guy has multiple VAC bans. MG already knows and they're looking into it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660956381
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>>15044139
This happens with a lot of stuff for some reason. There was this one time when someone put a Total War Hyrule mod onto Greenlight even though it's free. That one was pretty embarrassing, it seemed like a young kid. This one was at least made to look a bit official.
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>>15044157
I remember when some Russians took a A Kiss for the Petals vn, painted over their faces, and put it on Greenlight. It amazed me how few people recognized where the art came from.
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>>15043466
Things like this make me happy to have started learning jp.
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>>15043466
Wait a minute, I just noticed the person he's quoting is Clephas, legendary machine translator. Yet, Clephas is actually making a good point. Is this like that phrase about a broken clock?
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美雲さまの脇をなめりたい!

Can someone translate this? I want to make sure I read it right.
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>>15044213
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. >>15044220
I want to lick Mikumo-sama's armpits.

Nice kamige.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=659729842
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>>15044411
I'm really interested to see what they're going to do with this. It sounds like it will have much more of a plot than the original release, which I see as a good thing. Tomoyo is too good to be used as a mere sex toy.
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Nitroplus masterpiece SoniComi will get official dub by famous western seiyuu and cosplayer jnigs!
https://twitter.com/jastusa/status/718347525535703040

Are you excited for first dubbed VN, jaypee?
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>>15044502
>famous western seiyuu

Nigri isn't a voice actor. She's a cosplayer that got handed the role through nepotism. She did a very "okay" job in the anime. I imagine it was very inexpensive to get her to do this compared to a legitimate voice actor. That said, an English voice option actually is a pretty cool thing. It makes up for JAST taking forever, a little bit.
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>>15043466
Omg the whole "interpreting MTL puzzle" thing almost made me throw up....
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>>15044639
Why? He's not wrong.
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>>15044502
>Are you excited for first dubbed VN, jaypee?

Virtue's Last Reward came out years ago.
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>>15044881
Does https://vndb.org/v115 count?
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>>15044896
This was dubbed? It's weird how the portraits had messed up eyes and way uglier art. It's like they had two different people draw it.
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=591400242

They're doing point and click now?
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>>15044518
Hey Peter Payne, trying to get back at BDH for ripping apart the Flowers demo translation?
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I liked my dubbed Knights of Xentar.
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>>15042026

He worked on Rewrite after Umineko, I know Rewrite wasn't as great as everyone hoped but Umineko took him from Doujin to professional games.

If you want something to blame for his career flagging blame Rose Gun Days and Higanbana being bad, you can't blame Umineko which was super sucessful.
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>>15045600
I've never played Rose Gun Days or Higanbana, were they really that bad?

I know Rose Gun Days wasn't a horror/mystery story like people usually expected from R07.
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>>15045642
Higanbana is way better than Umineko (but worse than Higurashi)
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Rewrite +.
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Dies Irae translation when?
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>>15046065
Sekai or Frontwing will time the Kickstarter with the anime.
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>>15044533
>She's a cosplayer that got handed the role through nepotism
Does the meaning of nepotism now include fucking all the way to the top?
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>>15045211
Looks like it has the old adventure game problem of having puzzles for puzzles' sake, and not trying to tie the puzzle into the narrative.
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>>15046216
This reminds me of a puzzle!

How many breads have I eaten in my lifetime?
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>>15046401
Exactly like reiton. At least Zero Escape has a narrative-grounded reason why you have to solve tower of hanoi and rubiks cubes
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>>15045642

They are not terrible, just not up to the high level set by Umineko and Higurashi and went some way to killing R07's hype when he was a rising star in the eroge industry and getting work on commercial studio games.
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