General Nutaku and DMM Thread 90

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>・魔水晶との交換を開始
>▼200個
>『妖精女王シーディス』
>...
>▼70個
>『白き魔女クロリス』　
Cloris in TP. What.
I guess I gonna blow tons of SC on crystal daily now.

that 2sta map is pretty annoying
I am also yet to get a single Momiji despite 3-staring all other maps

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Why there are nude men in my cute girls game?

>>14929682
that game is homoge

>>14928746

Yeah, once I realised the reward was too far away it drained motivation to keep tapping at guild war. Rather, SenPro in general wasn't giving me anything once I finished story - farming youkai girls and doing all that clicking to feed existing units didn't feel rewarding. Especially when Valkyrie Crusade (>>14871534) threw us a busy event.

>>14929108
For gacha units, I'd say Estelle, Sybilla, Berna, Alice, Esta, Towa until she gets awakening, and possibly some of the other melee ones.

>>14929781
On second thought, Estelle is probably pretty good, I'm just struggling to think of a weakest ranged black. Basically all the ranged gacha blacks are amazing.

>>14929446
I doubt she's a particularly good unit, but at least Momiji is a good-looking bitch

Not a good start, 4 Momijis combined and still -1CR 2/10

>>14929936
At least you had 4 momijis drop.

>>14929936
still better than not getting any momjis T_T

>>14929963
>>14929965
i've been farming the 50/5 map only
i do it for the valks but she has been dropping surprisingly good too
i'm still at 1 valk

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>>14930316
forgot image

>>14930318
I would expect the 5 stam map to be about 30% drop for Momiji so that's pretty damn great actually. I assume silvers are the usual ~10%

>>14930329
yeah if i had to throw a number i would say she drops 50% which would be top map's drop rate, but there will always be RNG so i have good drops on a lesser map and some dont have any in the best one

15th run
Still 0 archers
Kill me already...

>>14929750
>Estelle
>Alice
Yeah, no.

>>14929781
>Sybilla
>weak

what

>>14930450
ikr
i was there thinking the same thing
i have mine 80 5/5 and she never sees the battlefield, but when i need her, man she wrecks faces

There sure are loads of Loris on nutaku.
YOU23EMXTPXF
YOU2C3YKHAGC
YOU25A3AFVU5

>just rolled chizuru, who i've wanted since she released
>during momiji's event

Isn't Chizuru actually better, due to her dodge skill and Momiji getting shitty-ass power attack, or do stats make up for it? What's Chizuru's awakening skill?

>check old thread before posting in new thread
>post in old thread because brain problems

>>14929781
I'd say nanaly would be a weak range black. The plat archers are free and she doesn't do anything much better than them.

Aigis
There was a following failure from March 15th (Tue) after maintenance,
till March 16th, (Wed) 04:55 (EST) .
We have updated the data to fix this failure.

- Failure that the Unit which was not yet officially implemented,
appeared in Premium Summons.


It is now been fixed so that it will not occur.
As for the [Unit without [Unit Name], [-] face icon],
there will not be a failure incurred by possessing such Unit.
However, we advise you to not to use it and wait until
the official implementation.

So those who got the black summoner get to keep her, nice.

Aisha is being swapped out and I still don't have her.

>>14930656
Funny thing is that obviously basically nutaku version already has all classes implemented, with sprites, skills, abilities and so on, just with japanese text.
There goes shill's theory that they manually re-code stuff for nutaku instead just copypasting it.

>>14930603
>Sybilla weak
>Nanaly weak

some good weed going 'round here

>>14930675
You're wrong there, since she had a partial translation and no name, with her skill translated.
Whether they do copypaste is anyones guess, but she had work put into her on Nutaku version atleast.

>>14930711
Oh, right, it was ability they left in japanese.
Well, yeah, since affection blurb was translated, seems like she was work-in-progress unit who slipped in production version.

Any news for android version of their games?

>>14930603
>Nanaly
>doesn't do anything much better than a plat archer

I... what?

>>14930701
prob some new

Is it worth getting another Fallen Angel for cr before trading post change?

>>14930774
I can't remember the last time I used nanaly over Spica.

>>14930802
Spica is way more useful than Nanaly but less powerful, still after the awaken Spica's passive is simple wonderful.
Still Nanaly is surely better than Bashira, sadly.

>>14930802
Most aegis vets are way overpowered for 99% of the maps in the game so you can basically use whatever cute AW units you want.

Spica is good, but she's not able to trivialize maps like Nanaly and other broken blacks can.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26820650

Tried not using Aisha. This game is significantly more difficult.

>>14930867
What map is that?

>>14931018
It was the first god map during the dark priest event.

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I'm a filthy casual that just started playing. By some small stroke of luck I got a copy of Momiji in the second event mission. Should I continue to grind on the event for the duration, or go back to the story?

Soma is cute, CUTE!

>>14931067
Better get ready to next events. Your current goal should be to 3* Oasis story map.

>>14931067
I suggest you start over on the right version while you still have the chance after you get comfortable with the menus.

Does anyone else play on two accounts at once? It's not autistic if I do right?

>>14931096
If at least one of them is DMM, you're fine.

>>14931096
one on butaku
one on dmm

>>14931110
I use to do that but now they're both on dmm.

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I just noticed you can click on her boobs. Yay !

>>14931224
nice find, just spend a good minute clicking on them

>>14931224
Yesterday didn't worked, nice find.

>>14931224
>>14931240
There's a minigame about it on the DMM version.

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Nazuna clicker where you can buy Dendrobiums and Alstroemerias to poke her tits in your stead.

>>14931224
Just wait until the game comes out. Bounce her boobs enough and she'll react in one of three different ways.

>>14929781
I'd say aisha would be a weak range black. The sapphire swordsmasters are free and she doesn't do anything much better than them.

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>>14931287

>>14931286
Now i understand why this game is popular !

>>14931297
Likes every top DMM games. You don't need gameplay, only need fap bait

Hey, just watched the trailer for FKG, there are no typos! Incredible...

>>14931314
FKG devs best devs. I can't believe I'm hyped for a Nutaku game.

>>14931325
On DMM?
No.

>>14931331
Who do they have for competition? X-OverD?

>>14931334
Tea team.

>>14931313
Aigis has great gameplay.

Is Rion any good? Her -1 cost only applies if she's deployed right?

>>14931637
She is god tier.

>>14930701
It's not that she's weak, it's that there are stronger blacks. She's not the weakest black though.

I met the head of business development for Nutaku at an event in San Francisco yesterday, ask me anything.

>>14931976
How does he look?
Did you tell him to move the business out of Canada?

>>14931943
What about her makes her good?

>>14931637
No, just needs to be in your team. After awakening it's -2. She's like a melee slot Nanaly but her skill awakening is oriented to higher burst with its 7x shot and higher attack stat to go with it.

>>14931996
Oh that does sound pretty good. Thanks.

>>14931976
Is it true that he must answer everything truthfully if you show him a silver ring and never allow him to leave his magic circle?

Also, does he really turn into a giant centipede when angered?

Dang, that was a fun book. Aigis should have a Majin Screwtape event.

>>14931988
Where did this meme that Canada doesn't allow lolis even start? No one is going to go after you unless you also have real CP.

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>>14931988
He looks like Shaggy.
I'm serious. He wasn't a "suit" at all.

>>14932005
I was wearing a silver ring and he seemed pretty open and honest with me, so like, that kind of counts.
Can't speak to the centipede part unfortunately, but I don't doubt it.

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I might meet him again today as we're both going to be at the same event.

Got anything you guys want me to ask him?

I'm actually bizdev with a game publishing company and he wants to do work with us and feature some of our games.

>>14932058
Bashira is so cute it's unfortunate she's a lesbian.

Can you ask him if the rumours about the dev team trying to force them to shut down aigis is true?

>>14932058
What games would those be senpai

>>14932015
Pretty sure this guy that worsk for MG didn't have any real CP and had to deal with a bunch of shit I certainly wouldn't want to deal with.

https://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answers/131656071921

>>14932015
The RCMP can't tell loli from real CP. Hell, I hear someone was arrested for writing loli erotica.

>>14932072
Pretty sure that's shitposting.
I did tell him how much I adored Aigis and he was pretty proud of how well it was doing.
No hint about any closure or anything.
I'll ask him if I see him again though, thanks!

>>14932076
Well... We don't publish mobile or browser games.
We focus on Steam/Consoles.
Supposedly the CEO or Founder or something wants to get /any/ type of game on Nutaku, but Tom (the bizdev guy) wants to stick to Japanese games.
So expect to see more stuff like Big Bang and that superhero game, alongside potential downloadable titles in the future.

We did get to talk to multiple Japanese, Thai, and Korean companies about publishing their mobile/browser games.
If we partner with Nutaku then we have a viable way to publish for our new potential international clients.

>>14932058
Congratulate him on getting off to a good start with FKG, ask whether the first event will be Lavender or if they will have another order (this will be much more telling than just asking whether the game will be censored).

Ask about the situation with Aigis and whether it's possible for them to get the missing characters added back into the game, since Dev Tea evidently won't do it unless they get asked first.

Mention the bad response to their EN-exclusive characters (which is entirely justified, the scoliosis elf is bad art but I can at least acknowledge that her artist tried, but Silly Girl is utterly inexcusable and was almost certainly a "we'll put your shitty OC in our game if you shill for us" kind of deal) and ask about the possibility of releasing EN-first characters/events, which would be drawn by JP artists and released to the JP version later on. Deine more or less ended up this way in EN Aigis and nobody complained about her, so I think this is the best way to make EN-exclusive content.

Information about any of these three points would be very welcome, though I'm mostly interested in FKG. Thanks for dropping by, I'm looking forward to hearing what news we'll get.

>>14932015
canada is one of the few countries in the world that deemed loli illegal.

having your headquarter in canada for a japanese imported eroge-games business is like to try to became an artistic gymnastics star while being a paraplegic

>>14932058
I want a Bashira business card.

>>14928112

Thanks for the heads up. Sent the (typo fixed) message via the Inquiry form.

>>14932238
Damn, 6 combinations and she refuses to go from -1CR 2/10. I may as well say forget about it and use her as exp fodder.

>>14932323
oops, didn't meant to quote there.

>>14932058
It's sorta silly. I had a ton of things I wanted to ask Nutaku about how they do their business, how adamant they are to get the best each game has to offer as quickly as possible, or how they feel about Dev Tea going dark not mentioning about the new characters or how the events are sparse for now specific reason.

But now given the chance, I don't even know where to begin. Just report back to us with what you learned. I'd like to hear what this guy has to say.
I also want a Bashira business card.

>>14932058
>having that neck on your business card

>>14932058
The simplest question to ask is when and how they plan on making improvements to Aigis. And I must emphasize "improvements" being "things that the community actually wants", like:
-missing units that have been supposedly greenlit for ages
-"fixing" Liana
-updating the trading post
-a consistent event schedule
-revivals
-actually having seasonal rewards outside of Black Friday

And so on.

Might also want to mention serial codes as a way of compensating us for the shit we put up with in the first year.

>>14932058
Ask him how much tea would Dev tea tea if Dev tea could tea tea.

>>14932058
Ask him to quickly draw on paper how does a moser with a demomgun look.

>>14932094
>So expect to see more stuff like Big Bang and that superhero game
Oh god, no.

>We focus on Steam/Consoles.
Now i'm curious, can you tell me at least one of your games?

>>14930598
Chizuru's awakening skill has her attract projectiles and gives an 80% chance to dodge them for 30 seconds and decreases her block by 1.
When I decided to level a Samurai on DMM, I went with Chizuru because Momiji was a unit I got from a gold rush, so she was at her initial cost. It really wasn't worth it to level her at the time. Right now, I would still lean toward Chizuru, but it would be a harder choice
At max Chizuru has more at HP(+288), Attack(+36, and thanks to Momiji's awaken ability, her attack speed drops), and a lower Min cost(-3)
The only thing Momiji has over Chizuru is Defense(205). Which makes sense in a way. Since Chizuru pretty much needs her skill to survive. Arrows will tear her apart otherwise, even with her high HP.
Lastly, Momiji can boost her attack to over 2700 with her AW skill, but frankly, the side effects when it stop is a bit of a demerit. Definitely for fitting a mid boss or something.

>>14932072
Bashira's Bi. Thetis is the lesbian.

Generally speaking, how tough are second week maps for star trials, compared to the first?

Thanks to Elune and Metus I finally got past the 50/5 bottleneck, and the kami level shouldn't be too hard to 2* with the same strategy, so I'll have 13 stars for this first week. How easy will getting to 22 for mincost Sukuha be?

>>14932834
They tend to be harder on average, but that's also because they skip on the beginner/intermediate tier maps usually on the second week. So don't count on too many easy-mode stars.

The best way to tell the difficulty though is usually by looking at Stamina costs. The current God-Tier is only 6 stamina and was easier than usual, especially considering that this is a Trial Event which are normally harder than usual maps.

Long story short, be prepared for 2 maps harder than the current God-Tier. Getting 22 stars will probably be hard for you if you got bottlenecked on 50/5.

>>14932834
You'll probably be able to get her to mincost, but just barely. Depends on how well you can deal with what the 2nd half maps actually contain, which only the devs know so far.

>>14932058
>Got anything you guys want me to ask him?
Ask him why the fuck porn publisher censors fucking cleavage in fucking porn game.
Also, ask him what the fuck is wrong with having swords and why would they feel need to censor only hilt part of it.

>>14932879
>>14932887
Right, thank you.

I can save up some SCs for goddess buffs, if worse comes to worst, but I'll see what the new maps have to offer first. I might be able to 3* either 50/5 or 70/6 if I rethink my strategy, too, since I only leaked 3 enemies in the former and the tigers are slow and continue spinning for some 8 minutes in the latter.

Business anon here again.
Thanks for your questions, I will do my best to get the answers!

One hour left in the event, still no Tom.
Nutaku doesn't have a booth here so I have to hope I run into him.
However, I have a feeling Nutaku might have a presence at GDC, which is going on until the end of the week.
Most people at this event have abandoned it for GDC today.
There is still to find him!

Still kinda weird. I would think that with how much money I expect them to have they would have more of a presence here.
Booths are expensive but plenty of small indie devs are here are able to afford it.

>>14932675
I assume it's for balancing purposes but I find it funny that Chizuru has the highest HP and base attack over all the samurais. I know all of the plat samurais have some form of increasing DPS in skill AW but it's just kinda funny.

Those abs aren't just for show

>>14932983
I find weird that Kojiro is among the good tanks of this game, being a samurai and that, but his def pasive and AW skill, makes him a very good sponge.

>>14932966
Ganbatte, bizanon!

Oh god, free dancer on DMM. Fucking finally, I thought I would be dancerless forever.

Its so scary how generous is DMM aigis lately. Can't help but thinking that they are up to no good.

>>14931096
I have three on Nutaku and one on DMM
the second Nutaku one has best units

>>14933623
It's clearly to give people a good challenge with the majin maps, which get too hard no matter how good you are if you don't buy goddess buffs.

Dear /jp/ guild of SenPro, especially ネイト, could you please log into game and remove low-power/useless (consisting of tanuki/foxes) squads from dispatched to union forces?
They don't help and just let other unions to steal our points for free.

having Marr means not having to give a fuck about enemy cannoneers

wew lads
got my first better-than-silver from 2k summon
it's just barblestroke but damn

>>14933882
Congrats

Next on the list is to get Cyrus as your next gold from the 2k summon

>>14933889
yeah that would suck because I bought him from TP ages ago

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>>14929936
>>14929963
I've had 2 drop, but I haven't beaten the last of the maps she shows up on, yet.

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Reminder that the current FKG event is ending early (on Friday), so better go and take down these last few raid bosses today.

Also, the character book is out in little more than a week.

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Heh.

>>14934136
Yeah, doing it with my DMM AW team just after Nutaku is fun.

>>14934136
seen any gatling-fish?

>>14933993
damn, thats a delicious brown girl

I like Cloris and plan to max her
Should I bother CCIng the fodder or get the skill-ups elsewhere? Like from the silver dragon or rainbow fairies

>>14934347
I'd recommend CC the fodder Cloris and saving the dragons for plat units since they'll require 3 silvers to CC their fodder. And that rainbow fairies should be saved for blacks/rare skills etc

Still up to you really, maybe you're drowning in dragons

besides the spirit upgrade, is there any advantage of AW cellia instead of waiting for princess AW and do it for sherry?

>>14934368
I mean the spirit drop rate upgrade for those confused.

>>14933807

While it doesn't matter much what squads you have unless they're all powerhouses, it does matter for calling reinforcements. I hate getting a tanuki as my 'reinforcement' when someone dies.

Guild wars easily boil down to "which 5/6* AoE spam team moves first?"

>>14934378
It does matter because when we are attacked by other union, they get to fight bunch of crappy 3* unit squads, and guaranteed to win w/out trying much.
With our 15+ <15000 total power squads, other unions basically have 13 free shots at us, and able to steal all points before they reach tough defense squads.

>>14934385

That's a point, if a high level guild wants to knock us out they can easily do so regardless of the number of chaff we have. Since I've lost motivation to do much attacking in guild wars, I don't care if we can't attack for the remainder of the day due to wiping.

>>14934368
Do you have any better physical duelists then Cellia, if not then do it. You will need more than just one duelist, sometimes 2 physical attack duelists, sometimes 2 magic attack duelists

>>14934368
She gets crapton more HP and anti-armor bonus.

>>14934341
I was hoping we would get a delicious chocolate-brown onee-san because they like adding season-appropriate flowers (Fir/Mistletoe/Saintpaulia/Christmas Rose for Christmas, Nandina and Pine for New Year's and so on) and it doesn't get any more appropriate than cacao for Valentine's, but Sinclairiana looks amazing too.

Also, she comes out maxed when you enter her serial code, so you no longer need to buy multiples of a book to raise her skill and slots.

>>14934498
Is there spruce in FKG?

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>>14934516
No, the conifers we have are Pine, Fir and Hinoki (a cypress, and the sole conifer we had for the first ten months of the game), and there's also a Ginkgo in the non-angiosperm department. Here's a rather old chart for the distribution of flowers in the game, if you're interested (and I now realize that Eucalyptus is upside-down, sorry about that).

That said, FKG devs take care to even out their plant representation, so we'll most probably get one sooner or later. Their sole limitation is that they only include plants that have flower meanings (so Rafflesia is unlikely despite being a fan favorite, since it has no traditional flower meaning, though I think the first LN had a pitcher plant on the enemy side so they might go that route as well), but there's one for spruce ("hope in adversity") so you're on the safe side here.

I'm personally waiting for another bug-using flower like Fig (wasps), Yucca (moths) or the aforementioned Cacao (flies), since we're told that not all bugs went insane and some are still retained in nature preserves. Though well, bug rabies is apparently contagious too, so there's probably good sense in not using them in the war effort (Oncidium should take care where she's swinging that poor Maidoari).

>>14934574
>Oncidium
>taking care
Right.

>>14934574
You guys are getting quite the botanical knowledge from this game.

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Gotten from Petite as usual.

>>14934625
Sailor Elite Skill AW:

Marie (マリエ):
Shooting Position (射撃体勢): (45s; block: 0; range [200] physical [AW: AoE] attack; AS: 38; WT: 16.7; CT: 25)
High Power Shot (ハイパワーショット): (25s; attack 2.2x; block: 0; range shortened AoE attack; AS: ; WT: 20; CT: 30)

Reanbell (リーンベル):
Sword Pistol (ソードピストル): (40s; attack 1.3x; block: 0; range [200] physical [AW: AoE] attack; AS: 38; WT: 12.5; CT: 25)
Burst Pistol (バーストピストル): (30s; block: 0; 6 consecutive ranged AoE attacks; intervals between attacks lengthened; AS: ; WT: 15; CT: 30)

Viera (ビエラ):
Shooting Position (射撃体勢): (45s; block: 0; range [200] physical [AW: AoE] attack; AS: 34; WT: 12.5; CT: 25)
Suppressive Rounds (鎮圧用散弾): (50s; attack 1.3x; block: 0; ranged AoE attack; won't halt enemies; AS: ; WT: 10; CT: 20)

What the heck, fishes on this DMM revival shoot slower than they did at Nutaku.
So that wasn't even DMM buff, that was Nutaku-specifc buff?

>>14934658
They sure love screwing Nutaku.

>>14934632
Viera AW skill is not "won't halt enemies", it's "won't land the finishing blow to enemies". Basically becomes unusable.

>>14934668
Basically post-AW Has been nerfed and Reanbell buffed.
I wish to have more infoes about Marie skill tho.

>>14934625
Sisters channeling their inner gainax pose

Fitting since Deine is pretty much a gundam

>>14934658
Cut units, cut events, give enemies buffs instead

That's the dev tea way

>>14934716
I'm actually thankful to Nutaku for bringing the game over, the EN Aigis drama theater is an endless source of high-quality entertainment.

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>>14934730
In the meantime there's people that still believes that Nutaku is actually developing anything at all.

>>14934658
I think this is just dev tea incompetence over intentionally trying to fuck over eng players

For example, the fish appear in Claudia's event

Debut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsI7nq0pvg

Revival
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgo1-xMTErw

And they clearly are the fast shooting ones in the revival. I guess when porting the eng version the devs copy pasted all the latest enemy stats over (which will explain the why we got the revival red dragon as well) without bothering to balance anything, so eng version ends up getting the revival strength enemies instead of the event debut ones.

As for dmm pirates revival, I guess they still had their old event data lying around (which includes unit data) and simply just copy pasted it into the revival event section so they ended up getting the original version of the event again.

>got a platinum kimono fairy from Beatrice revival
So I know the white-haired fairy with the stars and swimsuit is Happy (the max exp fairy); what do the kimono fairy and the glasses fairy in the leotard do?

>>14934803
Kimono fairy may raise revival unit's skill (in this case Marie - and Viera who has the same skill).
Glasses fairy raises any skill to max level.

>>14934803
megane maxes the skill for any unit in one go, and the kimono may skill-up the revival character

ONI raid G is pretty fucking hard, I keep leaking stuff or get my ranged units oneshot by the ghost onis

>>14934773
They probably noticed how ridicolous these mashinegun-fishes were in the revival and rolled the basic event to not hurt the DMM players.

>>14934837
Damn, those fairies sound so sweet, revivals never

>>14934872
Stop being toxic, tea works day and night to bring best and most balanced experience to western audience. Panel of smartest game design experts decided that revivals are detrimental to Aigis and The Best Aigis Version doesn't need them.

wow, the kitty rush in 100/2 map on dmm is painful
I put my best melee units with two healers, but still leaked too many cats. Plus, no unit slots for archers to kill the flying cat

>>14934885
Yeah, 22-medalling this seems to be impossible on my end. The first god map is tougher than I expected too, I can probably do it if I tried but I'd rather spend my stamina to max out Hana and get revival crystals.

Pity, Sukuha will be my first princess and I hear that it's important to have them mincosted.

>>14935081
More when that said princess can stop all youkai in the map for a while.

>>14934844
i start with Jerome and Katie blocking the first wave, then gold+ healer, prince in the backline, then two witches or plat+ archers to help the soldiers out, a second healer, then i place a Heavy next to prince in backline, then i replace the soldiers with ollivie and sybilla and withdraw the range units if neccessary, replacing them with mages.

Its pretty whalish but maybe it works with cheaper units too.

>>14935129
>2 blacks
>whale

Bizanon here again. About to head out to GDC but I figured I'd drop off some of the promotional info and metrics I was given.

>>14935190
Appreciate it anon. It's always interesting to see stuff from the other side.

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>>14935190

>>14934844
I dunno how things were getting oneshot there, they only took 40% health of off my Fedora and Bashira, I really thought they were gonna be strong and then they did puny damage.

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>>14935181
I also used Despara and Deine. Can i be a whale now?

>>14935274
That age breakdown... I smell shenanigans.

Dark blue represent

>>14935284
They have the "kids with too much money" crowd down alright, now if only they had the integrity to release their games unaltered rather than butchering them to publish them with minimal effort.

In any case, thank you for this info.

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Estimating that over half of their playerbase are premium, which implies they spent at least one dollar- Nutaku has made at least a solid million in a year.
More considering whales.

This is a large number, at least for a new company, but a small number compared to many established distributors/platforms.
All in all a great start though.

>>14935284
>around a third of their playerbase are men over 35
How does this make you feel /jp/?

>>14935284
what is wrong with that?

>>14935300
>How does this make you feel /jp/?
No wonder why Cyrus and Barbastroff get so much love, everybody self-inserts into them.

Too bad Solar's old man is dead in FKG, or they could draw that sweet ojii-san audience by releasing the LN overseas.

>>14935300
many studies have shown that major part of high ranking office workers are closet perverts

>>14935329
What do you think I am, anon?

Kidding aside, I'm actually pretty young though.
Not higher than dark blue I can say at least.

>>14935334
well you probably ain't closet perv ;)

>>14935300
I lied on my profile, i'm not 45. I know i shouldn't lie on the internet, i'm sorry ;..;

>>14935345

no we are all pure little girls in here

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Maybe Nutaku will have a presence here!

>>14929936
i've had 0 drops :(

is the exchange plat healer ジーティスgood? i already have ユーノ and イーリス

nutaku drop rate is fucked up
did two crystal keeper H's with 1 drop each, when i do it on DMM i always get like 5

>>14935486
I got 2 three drops.

>>14935486
I've gotten 4, 5, even 6 drops on Nutaku
with and without Monica
sometimes it's nutaku and sometimes it's rngsus

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GOOD NEWS.

Met Tom again and now David, the Product Manager for Nutaku at GDC.

1. Aigis isn't shutting down soon. He looked stunned that I would even imply it would and asked me where I heard that.

He went on to go to address Aigis' event schedule. Supposedly Nutaku has no input. They only act as a portal/distributor.
The devs are the ones that make all the decisions.
Hate eng Dev Tea, not Nutaku.

2. I asked about FKG event schedule. He said most devs follow the DMM schedule as closely as possible unless there are "specific reasons" like weak events.
Once again though, they leave it up to the developer.

>>14932084
>https://ask.fm/The_Doddler/answers/131656071921
damn dude... glad i am not canadian

>>14935501
> Aigis isn't shutting down soon
We shall see.

>Nutaku has no input
>The devs are the ones that make all the decisions
>Hate eng Dev Tea, not Nutaku
I hate both, Tea for being a bunch of jerks and Nutaku to let them do wathever they want with the game and shitting on the players.

>FKG
> they leave it up to the developer.

I don't know if i have to be worried or happy now...

>>14935501
>Hate eng Dev Tea

been on it for a while
ごくろうさまでした

>>14935486
>Two runs
Come back if you do another two hundred runs on each site and have the same results.

>>14933807
oh yeah, sorry

>>14935501
>>14935514
Yeah, the whole reason we're pissed is that Nutaku isn't pressuring the devs that are clearly not listening to us.

There was a time when NutakuDev lobbied for us to have autocomplete. Why can't he or anyone else at Nutaku do the same for the missing units, trading post, consistent events, etc.?

>>14935539
They probably gaved up, most of the community don't even care or don't know anything about the game, even more are these guys that thanks for all these breaks.
In the end the community is bad and Nutaku/Tea Team is just what they deserve, sadly there's still decent players that get the crap because of them though.

>>14935501
>most devs follow the DMM schedule as closely as possible unless there are "specific reasons" like weak events.
Well, Lavender is about the best event character there is (alongside Edelweiss, Hypericum and Oxydendron) so let's hope that they'll stay true to their word and not let censors get in their way. If they have to skip events, they'll probably skip Lechenaultia and Rainlily because these two came with popularity contests that resulted in the addition of new versions for some characters (Oncidium/Cactus/Camellia for the first and Lycoris/Anemone/Nadeshiko for the upcoming second). Or maybe we'll have actual English versions of these events, complete with new character additions, if FKG gets popular enough in the West. Who knows?

Still, it's great to hear that FKG devs have near-full control of the game, since they're known to be an excellent team over the DMM side (and rightfully so, this is the team who dismantled an entire event mechanic in a few hours just because their players didn't like it).

>>14935564
That doesn't make sense. Yeah, there are idiots that constantly clamor for more breaks, but we only strawman them for encouraging the devs' laziness/incompetence. That doesn't address the root problem of how Nutaku can and should put their foot down on the lack of content, even if they only care from a business perspective.

>>14935570
>team who dismantled an entire event mechanic in a few hours just because their players didn't like it
just out of curiosity, what was this?

>>14935575
At this point i don't even know if Nutaku really cares about Aigis, there's words about them trying to get full control of it, wonder of is going.
I'm just worried about FKG right now, i don't want to see an Aigis 2.0

>>14935579
During Calla's event, about half a year into the game. In that event, there were two sets of maps (Wind Valley and Deep Forest) and the event gimmick was a Kancolle-style locking mechanic where the girls you sent into one would be unavailable for the other. This was back when most people were just finishing up their main squad, so a lot of players thought this was too much at the time (especially since it was a medal collection event, so you had to take down all maps instead of just farming one). About half a day after the event was released, FKG had an emergency maintenance in response to player outcry, and the locks were removed.

This was not the first time they had responded immediately to player feedback, they had another emergency maintenance after the second event (for Edelweiss) because the last map had swarms of three beetles that absolutely demolished the low-level teams most everyone had at the time (these were brought down to one beetle per node). They also did a lot of additional user comfort updates, like the ability to autosort teams by attack/defense/speed etc., changing the overworld character manually (it used to default to your team 1 leader), turning sprites/pausing sprite animations in the garden, fast-forwarding raid boss fights, preventing girls from attacking already dead enemies (and preventing solar drive from going off when all enemies died), auto-solar drive in special raid boss battles, adding equipment locks, buffing up a bunch of awfully weak single-target skills, allowing you to get raid boss recruitments by clicking the home button (you previously had to feed characters/affection items one by one to do that) and so on.

I've been singing hosannas of FKG devs in these threads, but they really do deserve their reputation.

>>14935486
DMM just had its drop rates boosted.

>>14935570
>(alongside Edelweiss, Hypericum and Oxydendron
Can I please see their pictures? Since I guess they're not written exactly like that in kana.

FKG gave 10 flowers

>>14935564
>>14935539
>>14935514
BizAnon again.
Eating lunch so I have a chance to reply quickly, but I'll speak more in depth at the hotel hopefully.

Speaking as a publisher- you are limited by contracts.
For instance, I do design consultation work for my company as well.
I.E. I play our games and work with our developers to assure that the games are actually good.
If not then I work with the developers to change the game and make sure they are fun and also contain great retention mechanics.

However- we can't force them to make changes.
If we signed a contract with a developer and they turn out to be a massive douche, we can't force them to change their games as per our contract, we can just make recommendations.
In theory we can speak with them about dropping their contract, but that is a whole other beast.

Does Nutaku care? Have they been trying?
I have no doubt. Tom and David seemed very enthused.
However, business is a battlefield.
Office politics are intense, especially between two companies.

I mean, you guys also might be right, but if they've lobbied for autocomplete who knows what else they might be doing in the background.

If we start working with them I'll know better.

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Have an event photo.

>>14935769
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/index.php?%E3%82%A8%E3%83%BC%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB%E3%83%AF%E3%82%A4%E3%82%B9
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/index.php?%E3%82%AA%E3%83%88%E3%82%AE%E3%83%AA%E3%82%BD%E3%82%A6
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/index.php?%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BA%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%8E%E3%82%AD

Here you go. In general, characters with multi-target skills and the skill chance x1.2 ability are great, since you'll need AoE skills for ultimate maps and these are the only part of the game that is difficult.

>>14935501
>Supposedly Nutaku has no input.
That's great that they have no power or input for Aigis, but can't they still argue:
"Hey Dev Tea, we just had to delete 20 more angry Facebook and Tweets today. Are you guys going to get around to enhancing the game experience for our players yet?"

>>14935887
Next week: Dev Tea releases Anna revival, Kerry map goblins spell "FUCK NUTAKU" instead of "FUCK YOU".

>>14935927
>Next week

Impossible, we have a break next week.

>>14935846
I understand that much, which is why I've cut them some slack lately, given their recent "all girls are totally 18+" and gradual improvement in some of their other games (namely Saga and Kanpani). It's still frustrating to not see them take any (observable) action though.

I'm sure they have their hands full, but there have been long periods of time where their social pages have been barren of information, and they have built a reputation of deleting/ignoring comments, so it's tough as a consumer to trust them. If you think they're working to improve the Aigis situation, then I'll be cautiously optimistic, but there's only so long we can say "fuck Aigis dev tea" before Nutaku has another "six week break" fiasco.

>>14935442
Eh, its down to 7 combinations and still the same.

>>14935992
Also, FKG seems to have revived some trust in Nutaku, but part of that is due to the devs' good rep and word-of-mouth. And the pre-reg page looking surprisingly well-made. But that still leaves Aigis' future in the air.

>>14935982
>More Phalanx 2 and Fiery Oasis
I can hardly wait.

>>14936015
>Fiery Oasis
FO is better than BS2?
I tought BS2 was the best option.

>>14936025
maybe his team isn't good enough to beat Base Scramble II

I know it took me a couple tries to 3* it

>>14936025
Yes, Fiery oasis is the best, for a very long time until the jungle maps come.

>>14936025
Best for what? Maps have unit exp efficiency, rank exp efficiency, gold efficiency...

>>14936025
The only time when BS2 is better, is when there is a *2 or *1.5 drops event...but this is nutaku, so don't expect to farm there in the future.

>>14936108
You got a point.

just got Shaman(?) Eva(?) from SP summon

so she curses passively and buffs with skill or what? not knowledgeable of this class

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>>14936108
There's no data mined drop rated for desert maps and on, but I've seen this chart floated around a few times.

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>>14929936
She's not dropping a lot for me
Which disappoints me, cause she's cute and I'd like to min-max her. But doesn't looks like that'll be happening.

>>14936197
This is the same chart that takes into account 100% drop in each map, seeing as that the 30 cost map better drop rate than the 40 cost one, it makes sense what this guy >>14936108 said, and the 40 one is better when there is a drop event ongoing.

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>>14936197
Can we get a translation/explaination for us plebians who cannot into moonrunes?

>>14936305
The numbers make me think maybe experience per charisma for each profession assuming full drops?

>>14936286
Assuming 100% drop rate oasis would be 28 exp/chr and BS2 only 24.75 exp/chr so that's not true.

If I want to play FKG should I wait for nutaku or just start on dmm?

>>14936375
FKG's initial popularity on Nutaku might motivate the team behind it.
I say start up on Nutaku for the purpose of being a number, but have a DMM account ready for when things go sour.

In other words, do both, using the English UI to help you along if you can't read runes like >>14936305

>>14936189
Basically they realized enchanters were shit against golems, so they made a real anti-golem class. Enemies within range lose 10% attack, enemies within range at 5% hp or less can be killed in one hit. Skill multiplies those numbers. Niche as it is, Eva is he strongest one of her class, congrats.

I'm trying to see the positive out of me splurging 50 SC after seeing everyone get blacks left and right and failing as expected. Is Marnie considerably better than say, upcoming event dancers? I only got her and a ton of Garrets.

>>14936438
>rolling with this shitty lineup

>>14936375
Start on DMM to see how things are, and if you want you can switch and try for a rainbow when it comes out on Nutaku (hopefully EN FKG will start with the beginner campaign that gives the 7.5% rainbow chance gold ticket at the end).

>>14936451
Line-ups evade me anyway.

>>14936438
She's in a bit of an odd place, but she's much stronger than Hana unless you really need that party wide healing skill awakening. She tries to make up for her difficulty to cost reduce with her awakening ability. Waltz is harder to compare.

>>14936416
Eva came before enchanters were added though.

And Necromancers are the real anti golem class anyway. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28297682

>>14936456
But you just got Marnie.

>>14936511
Oh, I must have forgotten since Eva wasn't actually a viable option back then because nobody had her and she was the only one of her class.

>>14936531
She isn't on spotlight? Sakuya and Thetis are. Oh!, she actually is on DMM.

>>14936542
What, you actually spent money on Nutaku?

>>14936580
Crystals I didn't spent on Claudia.

So, how fun is FKG?

For reference, I play Aigis and sometimes, PeroPero Saimin.

>>14935647
Hasn't Calla been the absolute last medal trial they've had since? It's all been collect and distribute later, collect from maps or raids to exchange, or collect to roll event gacha.

>>14936438
A considerable amount of Marnie's stats come from her affection bonuses (atk/def), which Hana's don't help as much (HP/range). I don't regularly use dancers but I don't think I've seen a ranged spot that was 12 range away from someone else that would require Hana, versus just picking a closer spot for her and letting whichever displaced ranged unit deal with it.

>>14936511
>Necromancers are the real anti golem class

Not true, the strategy this guy uses is with Metus, which is actually a broken unit against golems, go try to replace Metus with another Memento or Agnes and you will be nowhere near to do it.

I always feel like I'm getting cucked when I see someone else roll the one black unit I have.

>>14935570
>FKG Devs are excellent
That's only toward their DMM fanbase.

They might give even less of a fuck towards filthy gaijins like us than Dev Tea. The language and culture barrier is still a thing.

All nutaku has to say is "Most gaijins hate loli because lolculture, so lets censor your loli."

And all FKG has to think is "Okay sure we don't care about the localized version anyways."

>>14936695
Obviously that strategy wouldn't work without Metus, but that's like you can't replace Rikka with the puppet user.

The point was necromancers make it so you never need to actually tank the strong golems and negating the usefulness of curse users quite a bit.

>>14936709
Which one?

>>14936714
Nutaku don't consider "redrawing" loli to be censorship either. So even if FKG wants to implement all their loli characters, nothing is stopping nutaku from randomly redrawing characters and turning the into shitty fanart.

>>14936676

How much fun do you get out of waifu appreciation? Don't expect much tactical thinking, do expect to be enchanted by waifu sprites (once you get event units with tailor-made custom animations). More so if you can understand their voiced lines.

Even the H scenes reinforce this philosophy: you read them for their personality, not for the fap material.

>>14936685
Yeah, that's about when they decided that FKG should be less about harvesting player despair through ridiculous RNG grinders (see: Kancolle) and more about playing with cute girls. It's been working great for them.

>>14936714
Their JP fanbase is the only fanbase they had so far, and they've repeatedly went out of their way to cater to them. We have no reason to assume that they'll decide to screw over the EN version out of nowhere, and the fact the FKG has an early video and a preregistration page shows that they do care about their foreign audience (possibly to a greater extent than other games, since FKG is apparently the first Nutaku game to have a preview page and bonuses).

You have to keep in mind that Dev Tea is the outlier here, other teams are perfectly fine with having regularly scheduled events in their games and Kanpani devs even made EN-exclusive dungeons to get people started. It's true, however, that Nutaku has ruined some of its games with its own meddling, which is why I'm more worried about censorship than the lack of dev attention for FKG.

>>14936721
>can't replace Rikka with the puppet user
What?

As for the necro tokens, if you don't have good burst, it will be useless; If you don't have a good burst, you'll need a good sponge. So if you already have a good burst, it will make necromancers easily replaceable. Anyway there a tons of ways to finish those maps already, but you are wrong in saying that the necromancers are the definite counter to the golems....remember that AW enchanters have access to one of the best tanks in the game too.

>>14936727
Despara.

>>14936933
What? Awoken enchanter tokens are shit since they can't be healed.

>>14936982
The irony.


What was the avg gold to get a black again? 20 mil?

>>14936305
Stage name / Charisma cost per run / Expected EXP per charisma point for generic class / for archer / for samurai / for soldier / for pirate / for bandit / for HA / for "me" (mage?) / for ninja / if every class matched

First six stages are desert maps in same order you see them in game, and yes, this chart claims BS2 is most efficient in terms exp per charisma.

>>14936838
That sounds nice; I like it. But, is it as slow as Kanpani? I hate games that takes long to load.

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>>14936982
Here's mine.

>>14936933
Necromancer tokens are completely superior to the enchanter token for taking golems.

>>14935501
>Aigis isn't shutting down soon. He looked stunned that I would even imply it would and asked me where I heard that
>The devs are the ones that make all the decisions.
This doesn't compute. If tea makes all decisions, how nutaku knows "aigis is not shutting down soon"? Tea could pull the plug any time and nutaku could do nothing about it.

>>14936992
What part of it is ironic?

>>14937010
They could have some sort of contract implying such.

>>14937024
Tea team just leaves 6 weeks break for small bug like last time

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>>14935270
> highest quality games

>>14936714
>All nutaku has to say is "Most gaijins hate loli because lolculture, so lets censor your loli."
If they actually bothered to check their playerbase they'd find out that isn't true in the least.

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>>14937050
6 weeks was retarded, but they did fuck up pretty big.

>>14936999
It's quite fast to load, in my experience.

Combat is decently fast too (zoom out a bit if it slows down for you), and there are several options to make it faster (a toggle for fast attacking in maps and a button for fast-forwarding raid boss combat). You also don't necessarily need to take an active part in it, so you can easily clear maps by keeping them in the background and advancing once in a while.

>>14937083
DMM side only need few days to fixed it.

>>14937099
And they got 60 SCs compensation for it.

Meanwhile Nutaku gets nothing.

>>14937106
That's because Nutaku Aigis isn't a game.

It's a social experiment designed to discover the limits of human endurance.

>>14937083
Did people get to keep them?

>>14937130
60 SC in return.

>>14937099
From what I remember the nutaku side was fixed pretty quickly too.

What they were doing that justified a 6 week break I doubt anyone knows, but it doesn't seem to matter. They still have a solid base of whales that apparently spend money no matter how little content they provide.

>>14937130
No, they got banned.

A few people who didn't cheat also got banned.

>>14937130
Devs got pissed and went on major banning spree. Some later bugs also had excess overreaction from devs because of that (accidently used more than 2 units for skill level bug? All affected units deleted from your account forever)

>>14937185
>>14937136
Wouldn't that have upset the japanese a lot? How did they let that happen? I've never heard of a game like this banning people.

>>14937196
No, Jap whales were actually demanding to publish nicknames of cheaters and launch lawsuit against them and then were nagging devs for months to report how exactly cheaters were punished.
Kinda obvious, because when you spend 100000 yen to get something, you don't want someone else get it all and even more for free.

What does bonbori do?

>>14937097
Noice.

>>14937260

>>14934837

>momiji at -3

almost usable

Man, with skill awoken Jerome, I can't even remember the last time I actually felt like I was short on cost.

>>14937372
OH RUB IN THE SALT ON THOSE WHO DONT HAVE JEROME WHY DONT YOU!?!?


I will never roll a zenobia or jerome why live.

>>14937576
You think that's bad, my girlfriend has Gellius and rubs it in every day

>>14937648
You Jellius?

>>14937648
ur left or right one?

>>14937648
Plz you have free and other premium alternative atleast for gellius.

But jerome or zenobia? Bitch plz....

>>14937683
You know there's a Plat Event Soldier right?

>>14937576
I have Altera too.

>>14936999
The first time it will take ages, after it has downloaded its assets, it will be fast as kanpani (yes Kanpani load fast after it has cached everything) so I think the slow load is on your side, use a dedicated recomended browser for plating it and give it the 1gb cache.

>>14937216
Actually the problem in first point wasn't the cheating, it's been there from day one. The problem was that the cheaters where selling these accounts and one of the guys didn't like that and spreaded the method, everyone started to cheat and that became a big snowball, so big that they had to move everything server side.
On a side note, doing that puts a lot of strain in your CPU and gives you a lot of lag, that problem has been addressed but what do you expect from Dev Tea? to fix it?

>>14937683
I have a Bernice at -1 cost
so I can live

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>>14937061
Oh, you mean the playerbase of wallet warriors that continue to throw money at Nutaku as they support bad business decisions, and openly state that the censorship "could be worse, it's not even that bad of a redraw!"

Sure, the general nutaku fanbase might not mind loli, but if nutaku censors shit, they don't care either. They just wanna throw money at their game and don't even bother to check the difference between the Nutaku and DMM version.

The people who are rightfully pissed about censorship are a minority. The rest silently throw money at Nutaku, either ignorant of the censorship/changes from the DMM games, or don't care.

Every nutaku game thus far has had some form of censorship, or redrawn characters.
Kanpani is the only exception simply because it is not an R-18 game. I guarantee you if it had hentai CG, it would suffer the same fate.

FKG is fucked, 100%, and the FKG devs won't have any choice cause they have to abide by western laws, as Nutaku would say.

>>14937880
I want an uncropped version of both of those pics, something's fishy

>>14937861
I have a mincost Bernice, I never use her since I have Gellius, Deine, and Jessica.

>>14937913
how is Deine? I always imagined her as Garrett on steroids

>>14937880
Can we save this negativity for AFTER FKG comes out?

Using Hitsuji is a terrible example since their devs clearly don't care and the game is about to go under in DMM anyway.

Osawari, for all the shit it gets about being the most edited, while it may be too little too late at this point, at the very least, they reverted a lot of their earlier edits, including (FINALLY) Hametena.

While Angelic Saga's audience may not be growing, its devs are doing what they can to improve the game's events and making it more F2P-friendly. There haven't been any noticeable art edits recently, so all seems to be fine there too.

I don't know how the other games are going (some anon here mentioned how certain cards are missing from DTM, I think, but I'm not even sure that was specifically loli-related), but the point is, it's too early to say FKG is dead in the water just because the other games had their shitty launches and edits. The loli situation has been changing and dev teams have been responding differently.

Don't discourage the potential playerbase any more than it needs to without reason. Be more like this guy >>14936866, please.

>>14937926
Her skill awakening makes her much better because she attacks AoE, and still does really good damage. 1k defense is nice too.

>>14937926
Her def is same as Bernice when skill activating

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>>14937907
I still got this screencap that I showed probably a week ago of this that shows that they either fixed the censorship of that character or there was none in the first place.

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>>14937907
Sure. Guess which one is the shitty redraw? It's not hard.

You know what's really fucking stupid? The DMM original CG is still in the game and shows up after the screen flashes white when the "Cumming" happens. That's how the redraw is obvious, aside from the lopsided breasts.
They can't even do their fucking censorship right.

Some other recent Nutaku quality control:
-"Duel Squad" (called Crime Busters in the JPN version, quality translations as usual) just skipped over 3 events that introduced loli cards, despite following the same event schedule up till now.

-Dragon providence is completely replacing the art of younger looking girls with completely different voluptuous women

More at 11

>>14937951
The redraw shows up for awhile when the CG zooms to full body view, then after the white screen flashing, returns to normal.

It's still the case for me. I even clear my cache regularly. So I assumed Nutaku just failed to completely replace the CG.

I mean sure, yes, technically the original CG is there so I shouldn't be complaining. That doesn't change the fact that they attempted to redraw this shit and implement it.

>>14937971
>-"Duel Squad" (called Crime Busters in the JPN version, quality translations as usual)

Crime Busters is probably copyrighted or something. It sounds like something that'd already be taken. I doubt it's a translation issue.

Can't really comment on the rest.

>>14937971
My pic here >>14937951 was taken right after the transition from the zoomed in parts and I had no editing at all as shown in yours.

>>14937986
Are you certain it wasn't already like that in JP version ?

>>14938013
What? Are you by chance fucking retarded?

Yes, it was in the original JP version. Even on DMM they intentionally had the artist draw two versions of the same girl, one with tiny eyes and derp faces, then had the derp version randomly replace the regular CG during sex scenes. You know, just because they thought it was funny.

>>14937971
>Dragon providence is completely replacing the art of younger looking girls with completely different voluptuous women

Where the proof of this? last I saw they only removed them not swapped the art.

>>14938107
there is no way you forgot to close your sarcasm tag, this is definitely a serious post

>>14938113
Oh sorry here's your /s

>>14938107
So you are saying you have no idea ?

>>14938144
>>14938155
with all these doubles I don't know whom to believe

>>14938144
>>14938155
>>14938177
Oh baby a triple!

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>>14938110
"never forget"

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>>14938144
>>14938155
>>14938177
>>14938217
The fuck is going on here

>>14937932
Negativity? No, that's just some well-justified worry. You'll see negativity if FKG turns out to be censored on release.

That said, I may praise FKG devs, but I still wouldn't trust Nutaku as far as I can throw it. While the preview page and video are certainly good news, Nutaku does have a track record of ruining things at the last minute, and the fact that they have issued no statements about censorship is suspicious (if they were sure to release everything uncensored, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops now).

>>14938279
>if they were sure to release everything uncensored, they'd be shouting it from the rooftops now
Didn't you see how NutakuDev rushed to forums pleading people to not mention peropero lolis? They are scared as fuck that someone could find out about possibly-dangerous content.

>>14938279
Most issues will be prevalent come launch or the first event. I don't have high hopes either, but there's no point in jumping the gun until then.

And they most certainly wouldn't be shouting about the lack of censorship from the rooftops. Just because they may or may not have gotten more leverage and leeway with their payment processors doesn't mean they no longer have to maintain a low profile.

>>14938294
>>14938300
Well, it's both hilarious and sad that people, including Nutaku staff themselves, are talking about censorship like it's something that ought to happen and is now being bypassed in secrecy. There is no legal grounds for the censorship that Nutaku performs. The way they're bending over backwards for their payment agency is pathetic, and the fact that they do it to their users' detriment is disgusting.

I acknowledge that they may be stuck in a shitty contract, or they may just not want the hassle of changing payment systems for questionable returns. Either way, the fact of the matter remains that the censorship is entirely their fault, and they don't deserve an ounce of trust until they fix it for good.

And shout it from rooftops, preferably. A bit of good PR would do them no harm.

>>14938352
>There is no legal grounds for the censorship that Nutaku performs.

Depends entirely on what country's laws you're referring to, but that's not a conversation I'm willing to run into the ground yet again.

The rest of your post just sounds like blind idealism. If we lived in a world where people didn't give a fuck about the morals of virtual porn, we'd all be in a better fucking place. Until then, money talks louder than trust. Good PR means nothing if they lose the means to stay afloat.

This doesn't mean that we have to be complacent with Nutaku or Dev Tea or whoever else fucking us over, but we can't just tell Nutaku to say "fuck censorship" and have that be their company slogan from here on out, as nice as that would be.

>>14938387
Is there a law anywhere against depicting drawings of sword blades?

>>14938422
They censored hilt but left the blade there.

>>14938387
>Depends entirely on what country's laws you're referring to
For some censors, perhaps, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a country that deems sword hilts illegal. And note that DMM itself is doing pretty well despite having all this uncensored content, and as a whole bunch of overseas Kancolle players will attest, it's not that hard to pay under its system. So there's at least one country they can use to accept payment with no problems at all.

I guess my advice boils down to "if FKG turns out to be censored, keep playing on DMM and call Nutaku out on its bullshit until it fixes its censors". All in all, not a bad plan.

>money talks louder than trust
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Nutaku doesn't care about censorship because it doesn't have to care about censorship. People will throw money at it either way, there's little financial gain in endeavoring to get rid of censors.

If players pressured Nutaku by not paying until censors were removed, then they would be removed in a jiffy, make no mistake about that. But your average player doesn't give a shit if they butcher half the game as long as he sees some cute girls, so that ain't going to happen.

Is this the swordgirls thread?

>>14938453
no it's the swordboys thread

>>14938453
>swordgirls
I wish Nutaku's censors were at least as good as Kata Flina.

Her replacement image was Deviantart-tier but she was still high art compared to the dog-faced horror that is Silly Girl.

Is Nutaku for originally English games, or are they Japanese natively?

is this plat dancer good? will she dance for me?~

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New girls on FKG.

Broom girl (?) with a broom, Vine girl with wine. Will Plane have an actual plane?

I wouldn't mind getting raped by Rape.

>>14938387
>Depends entirely on what country's laws you're referring to
what country is "the internet" in?

>>14938435
>DMM itself is doing pretty well despite having all this uncensored content
What, on DMM, is uncensored?

>>14938662
It looks like the artist ran out of time for the broom after evolution.

>>14938666
You cannot incorporate in "internet".

>>14938699
there's always Tonga

>>14938655
good question
I know nothing of dancers

>>14938655>>14938708
Hana isn't the best dancer around, but having one is immensely better than not having any.
Dancers give 100% of her stats to all allies in the range when skill is active, and that's HUGE buff for all AoE/multiple-shot/multiple-target units.

>>14938719
what do dancers do when skill is not active?

>>14938719
so it's extra good if I use her with my fox girl Inari or mage armour Jessica?

Just as example:
AW90 Pipin with Prince heals 384 * 3 hp per cast.
If you have AW90 Hana activated, it becomes 724 * 3, or 1020 more total hp healed per cast, almost doubling Pipin efficiency.

>>14938734
Same as active, but only 10% of stats.

>>14938666
All of them, that's the problem.

>>14938453
I miss that game

>>14938752
Such a shame that the EN version went down the way it did. Cinia, Rosa and Linia deserved a better fate.

Incestuous lesbian ojou-sama is best ojou-sama.

>>14938662
Well, wrong on both accounts: The girls are Heather, Hop, Apricot, Mugwort and Rowan. The last two are available in the event as gold/silver characters.

The trend of introducing new silvers seems to continue and is pretty nice. Cute girls are the main draw of this game, rather than stats, and silvers can hold their own pretty well when maxed anyway.

>>14938662
I cannot understand how they manage to always make pre-evolution art so much better than post-evolution.

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Weird, I just Commissioned 2 sorties in a row for Dragon Hunting. I've come out empty-handed from sorties before, but never twice in a row.
Anyone else ever had this?

>>14938830
Such is the will of Aigis

It's still RNG, as long as it's not 100% drop, anything is possible. Even something like 3 no drops in a row or 3 gacha black in a row

>>14937971
Let me point out that it was Dragon Tactics that switched art, switching a pair of twins for a naked busty redhead cuz no incest.

Dragon Providence has only not implemented some characters as shown here: >>14938240

>>14938662
Really like the current event girl's art. This artist draws some good girls.

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Tiny clockwork Nazuna on map... I need to throw more money at FKG.

>>14938906
They also act like the small horsefly pests do, slightly damaging the enemy node they hit.

Now they just need to add some towers and we can play Defense of the World Flower.

>>14938906
I kinda feel bad for her role here even if that's just a doll.

>>14938917
Shepherd's purse is a plant that grows by drowning insects in slime and absorbing their remains, I'm going to believe these mini-Nazuna burst into a ball of slime and rise back again from the carcasses of the pests they killed.

It is said that if one manages to destroy 1000 pests, it will develop into a full-grown Nazuna. This has only happened three times in history, resulting in [REDACTED] and the deaths of [FURTHER RECORDS EXPUNGED BY REQUEST OF BLOSSOM HILL QUEEN]

I'm relatively new to FKG, can somebody please explain why did the previous event girl and her slot/skill items cost less event points to obtain than the current one?

>>14938915
I sense a new minigame

>>14938944
Because cost is balanced against gain speed. You get more points, girls cost more.

>>14938944
Her event and this event are of different types. The previous girl had a raid boss event, this one has an item collection event.

All events can be finished through natural stamina regeneration, so this is not a cause for concern. You'll need to farm the event maps for this one instead of just poking raid bosses, though.

I wonder, has anyone of you used any of the chocolate by 3 of your best girls from last month's Valentine event? I still kept them.

In FKG you can now roll 100 girls at a time on the Normal summon instead of 10.

My laziness in not using 1000 seeds at a time have finally paid off. Blew through a few hundred thousand seeds. In a few minutes.

>>14939132
That seems to be a huge amount of girls you rolled there. I take it you cannot get the best out of it? And how do dupes work on FKG?

>>14939144
There's 0 point in rolling normal summon for me anymore. All 2* and 3*, and even almost all of the 4* girls are fully skill maxed and slot maxed.

The only point to roll now is to sell them for gold.

>>14938422
Please don't base your entire argument on that. That was obviously not a censorship issue, that was a full retard issue.

>>14938435
I don't want to give my money to DMM, and almost certainly not Dev Tea. I wasn't playing any of these games on DMM prior, and I don't see why I have to now. I would rather not play at all if it came down to it.

And we're obviously past the point of boycotting Nutaku. There's no point of discussion there.

>>14938666
And this is the stupidest post of the thread, well done.

Nice triples though, faggot.

>>14939132
Aww, but I was 130k from a million! Maybe I'll wait until 1000x normal summon...

>>14939144
>And how do dupes work on FKG?
Feed dupes give the girl extra skill level and equipment slot.
For high rarity ones like rainbows or non event golds you can buy the skill flower items in shop to increase their skill level, but for equipment slots you will have to whale for dupes.