Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

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MangaGamer
>Beat Blades Haruka - temporarily delayed
Higurashi Hou -Watanagashi released
Bokuten - 79% translated, 50% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 78.5% translated, 77.2% edited
>OZMAFIA - 100% translated, 80% edited
>House in Fata Morgana - 100% translated, 70% edited
Myth - 94% translated, 81% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - In testing
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 22.5% TL 18.13% edited
>Supipara - Ch 1 in testing
Himawari - TL and editing finished, in scripting
Umineko - Picked up
>Tokyo Babel - in testing
>Negai no Kakera - 32.6% translated
>Princess Evangile W Happiness - 25.36% translated, 10.6% edited


JAST
>Sumeragi Ryoko - Beta, in preorder
Sonicomi - Summer release
>Seinarukana- in preorder, in beta
>Flowers - 100% translated, 60% edited
>Sweet Home - 66% translated
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- Translation 83%
Django - Waiting on translation.


Sekai/Denpa
>Nekopara 2 - released
Root Double - Kickstarter succeeded, planned March release
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title 75% translated
Atom Grrrl - Q1 release
Narcissu 3rd - TL+Editing done
Narcissu 0 - in TLC
>WEE 3 - 22.96% translated
>Nenokami - 41.27% translated
>Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - 95.29% translated
>Darekoi - 9.65% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter failed
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Hoshizora no Memoria - picked up



Other
Magical Eyes - Feb 29th release
Harmonia - Through Steam GL
Little Busters - Picked up
Tomoyo After - Picked up
Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter succeeded
SubaHibi - Official release planned
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
>Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 5754/10293 (55.9%) lines translated
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - Kickstarter succeeded
Zero Time Dilemma - 2016 release
Moujuutsukai to Ouji-sama - Kickstarter started
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

>>14805214
>Da Capo 3 - 78.5% translated, 77.2% edited

Only 2 more years to go.

>>14805214
>Nekopara 2 - released
I know it's a shitty game, but I'm pirating it nevertheless. Don't judge me too harshly.

Apparently Aroduc is translating Baldr Heart

>>14806164

Nah. There actually is the real possibility of seeing a release towards the end of the year.

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Judging by their tweets, It would appear that Mangagamer's payment processor has dropped them completely. In spite of that though, it looks like there's still bundles out there(and a few paypal orders, I suppose), as orders are still happening and there's a top 5 for digital titles. Hardcopies, as one would expect, are completely blank.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Tokyo Babel if this continues to persist, as Haruka is likely to be delayed and mangagamer generally puts one game up for preorder as another launches. Will it wait until Haruka launches proper? Or will it just be put up for preorder on steam around when Haruka was supposed to have launched?

Top 5 Ranking: http://pastebin.com/uF32HfPm
Popularity Sort: http://pastebin.com/LJvSTMVW
Full Data Point List: http://pastebin.com/mB6aTc55

As always, this tracker is powered by anonymous like you, so if you somehow manage to order from mangagamer while their payment processor is nonexistent, post em'

Does anyone have a magnet for Nekopara vol.2 18+ version?
Nyaa is down and i'm retarded so i don't know where to find it.

>>14806222
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:J723JOQQKEHNSMQIXV6TQRHR437Q5PRE&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fopen.nyaatorrents.info%3A6544&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80

>>14807045
That was meant for >>14807026

>>14807049
>>14807045
thank you, youve really helped me out.

>>14806594
>Or will it just be put up for preorder on steam around when Haruka was supposed to have launched?
Is it even possible to pre-order from Steam without early access?

Man, MG took such a heavy blow with this payment processor shit. They're only making money from Steam for a week now and some retards are bound to take MG actions in bad faith and use that to spread bullshit.

Is it possible that the Steam keys fraud affected Kindred Spirits as well? I remember that MG unlocked the Steam keys on their site by the time they released the game but even so I suppose it's possible that the fraud affected this release as well.

https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/700570196851843073
>It seems like all the games I've tled so far have a scene with heroine puking on the MC; I never suspected that was such a popular fad.
What is he translating guys?

>>14807026
>>14807088
Fucking newfag, next time just go to A-S or Miko and grab it yourself.

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>>14807279

One of these, apparently.

>>14807279
Chaos;Child

>>14807263
>Is it possible that the Steam keys fraud affected Kindred Spirits as well?
I can't say for sure, but I haven't seen any super-low-priced Kindred Spirits keys on reseller sites so far, so I'd assume it wasn't a target (or if it was, not a major one).

We're not going to be putting anything up for preorder until the pay processor is sorted out.

I just hope the people who preordered Haruka aren't too upset. They didn't do anything wrong, but it'd be suicide to release the game to pre-order customers without a way for other people to buy it and Haruka's too important of a release to chance it.

Maybe we used up all our bad luck for the year this month... Haha...

>>14807366
I for one am okay with the delay because I really want Haruka to do well. It helps that I have a few other things to focus on.
So is it coming out like a day or two after the processor comes up, or on the same day?

>>14807366
Don't really mind the delay since it's really out of your hands. Still hoping it comes out within the month, as it is two big MG releases in a single month.

>Haruka's too important of a release to chance it.
I feel sorry for people who would give you money for that trash, and I feel sorry for the person in your company who decided it would be a good idea to translate shit like BBH in hopes of roping in Rance fans.

>>14807628
>that trash

I'm probably the most bitter person on the Rance general on /vg/ (which says a lot) and even I recognise that Haruka has merit on it's own.

I'm pirating it as soon as it's out on nyaa

>>14807628
dumb ranceposter

>>14807675
dumb or not the whole "buy haruka to get the game you actually want" was stupid

>>14807714
That is how Japanese localization works my friend. Just be glad Haruka is actually decent and will most likely sell well because gaijin are all perverts.

>>14807554
>So is it coming out like a day or two after the processor comes up, or on the same day?

Kind of curious about this too. If it's a couple days after would there still be a preorder discount window?

I mean I'm sympathetic that you probably had all the money from february seized on you, but I am also a cheapass.

>>14807743
>>14807554

Not sure yet, but I think we'll try to get it up asap once we can take payments again.

>>14807726
Yeah, right. Did you ever walk into a store, and to get that cool-looking shirt, the owner tells you: "Sorry kid, gotta buy this pink, homo looking shirt first. It's just as good as any other shirt, except it's pink! Only if enough people buy this, we'll be able to sell you what you actually want!"?

Of course it doesn't fucking happen, because the majority of people aren't dumb retards. Apparently that is not the case with MG apologists.

>>14807823
dumb ranceposter

>>14806222
If I realized earlier that the game would be full of needless drama and not feature the earlier cat girls as main characters, I wouldn't have pirat-- uh, bought the game. Damn regrets.

>>14807648
>it's
its

>>14807823
This is how typically goes with Japanese companies who want to test the waters first. They'll offer something, but typically not the titles that most people want from them. However, if that title doesn't do well, it likely means that they won't bother licensing anything else. So, while not ideal, buying Haruka will increase the chances of Alicesoft licensing the Rance series.

>>14807800
Can people currently do paypal orders?

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39 days left.

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I gotta admit, I'm kind of impressed that this is almost keeping pace with how root double was doing at the time despite the fact that the tiers are fucked and there's a non-native english speaker managing it.

Dovac should clearly be looking to break into/exploit the female audience.

Still would put money on it failing though. Though I'm probably the only one following this drama.

Dovac, please reply to me.

>>14808010
I will spit in all of the Root Double mugs. dovac out.

>>14808016
So dovac has some impossible-to-wash-out spit? Always knew he was alien monster.

>>14807908
Don't care. MG never should have to try to pull that card out themselves. Fortunately Arunaru is against pulling that card.

Is Gahkthun worth the $45? Is it a kamige?

>>14808169
It's a really fun read but $45 is a lot of money.

Would be worth $35 easily. $45 depends on your cash flow situation

>>14808169
>Is Gahkthun worth the $45? Is it a kamige?
Yes, no.

>>14808169
It's worth clicking the torrent button.

>>14807628
>>14807823
And of course, people working on MG have no fucking idea that there are a ton of Rance autists like you who would bitch like fuck because they didn't get their free translation.

I feel really sorry for the idiots that think this way and are actually insisting on saying that MG didn't even try to pursue a series that is known by a lot of people.

>>14808240
You fight that straw man. You can take him!

>>14808240
I'm not sure what you're even saying - I couldn't give less of a fuck about Rance. All I'm saying is that Haruka is even worse, and that MG is failing at even the simplest business logic, and will hopefully eventually be crushed by their competition, who seem to have a better instinct where money is to be made (by scamming the shit out of idiots, that is).

>>14807301
he seeded baldr sky, muramasa, dies irae and wa2... feels like these are not comparable in quality

>>14808272
>and that MG is failing at even the simplest business logic
Hasn't it been established that it was Alicesoft who wanted Haruka to go first, not MG?

>>14808182
This is why we can't have nice things.

>>14808272
>All I'm saying is that Haruka is even worse
Are you saying that one of the best nukige in Japan is a bad choice? If you really think so, you don't know who MG main audience is. It's not for nothing that nukige completely outsells story VNs.

>>14808272
>hopefully eventually be crushed by their competition
I hope you enjoy your badly edited machine-translated cat porn, because that's all you will get for eternity without MG on market.

>>14808272
This is just a rephrasing of the copypasta from earlier threads.

>will hopefully eventually be crushed by their competition
Have fun with all-ages, Steam, and JAST taking years on everything.

>>14808292
Rance autists believe that misunderstood statement that Arunaru later clarified, because he didn't actually know what went on in the negotiations.

>>14808272
I don't really know why you're so set on blaming MG when it was obviously Alice Soft's doing.

>>14808334
Nah. Going solely off on direct statements from Maria that she later backtracked on.

>>14808292
>>14808240
What Rance game did they want first though?

>>14808358
Source?

>>14808367
Fireden appears to be down at the moment.

Maria went ahead and pulled the Buy Haruka to get Rance card the moment Haruka was announced though.

Which she shouldn't have. Haruka can be sold on it's own merits and should be marketed on it's own merits and doing otherwise just pisses people off.

It doesn't hope that in the same thread she also told everyone that she never had any intention of releasing the fantranslations she'd spent a year hyping up.

Call people autistic if they want but bad public relations leads to bad PR results.

Also on a second point I still doubt that MG will try and go for Rance VI over the vastly inferior but shinier Rance 01 and Rance Quest

I'll sure be glad when haruka is out so /haniho/ stops shitting in these threads.

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>>14808395
These threads have been shit for years anyway.

If you read anything beyond the first couple of posts you know what you're in for

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20.000 people were watching Nekopara on Twitch yesterday.

>>14808414
Why ? What's the appeal of Nekopara ? I don't understand, i'm not really fan of nekomimi.

>>14808429
It's a meme game for popular streamers.

Good for them though, it's obvious this exposure has boosted sales tremendously.

>>14808385
Given how MG's sales usually go, I'm sure alot more people would buy Alicesoft's new titles over older games like Rance VI. MG fans love ero scenes, and the dated artstyle of VI would likely keep a big portion of their buyers from purchasing it. Plus, most people in the west played Sengoku, and would want to play Quest next.

>>14808457
Exactly.

>>14808395
/haniho/ is too dead to be shitposting anywhere, those posters are part of your regulars

>>14808457
>>14808486
>and would want to play Quest next.
We know how that'll turn out with Quest's game play and how it's basically a game made for people who have played most/all the previous entries in the series.

>>14808514
And the fact that Magnum will be sold separately

>>14808519
They'll have to bundle them together, selling just the base game by itself would beyond stupid as it's a incomplete in multiple areas

>>14808498

Last year /vnts/ averaged 60 posters in a week, these days there's 80-100 at the end of the week.

>>14808526
Alicesoft still sell them separately

>>14808514
Gameplay helps with sales even if it's shit. Boob Wars and Bukakke Ranch sold well if that tells you anything.

>>14808385
>it's own merits
I already corrected you once. The word is its. Don't fuck with me.

>>14808514
They could include an encyclopedia to help people who haven't played the previous games.

>>14808579
...
There's already one, with short backstory for every heroine, and then there are scenes with introduction of heroine when you meet them first time in RQ.

>>14808579
There's a in game one and it spoils the previous games. Not to mention reading a summary is nothing compared to playing the actual game and getting attached to them.

>>14808579
That isn't the issue. Rance Quest already does that.

Vanilla Rance Quest is almost like a fandisc sort of thing where half the fun is recruiting all the characters from the previous games.

If you never played those games then you don't care for obvious reasons

So this line showed up in nekopara "I want Master to completely fill up my baby bakery with his man batter" killed my boner thanks sekai

>>14808745
There is nothing wrong with that line, unless you imagined eating his man batter.

Dharker studio did well in kickstarter. 1100% funded out of £3000. But the change from 1 game to 5 games promised probably is part of the success.

Clearly the demand for eroge is out there. It should just preferably be in the 10 dollar/euro/pound range per title. Sekai seem to try and abuse this with multiple 10 dollar charges for game + ero.

Hopefully MangaGamer can enter this lucrative market as well with some well chosen titles.

>>14808769
Would most titles that would fall in that price range be doujins?

>>14808787
The idea is shorter and voiced games, which would sell better than EOP on account of English VNs often lacking voices.

If it is doujin or plain small scale games from a smaller company doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure there are some companies who produce dozens of short eroge.

>>14808845
Not so much, companies take usually at least one year

>>14808745
The original Japanese line was pretty much "cum in me"

Not sure if this was a good choice in using bakery terms for the English version, feels immersion breaking.

>>14808871
Kinda surprised that the original line wasn't as pun-filled. Seeing how they love to use "baby milk" and "bun in the oven" a lot too in H-scenes.

>>14808745
But that's funny as fuck.

mfw when the winner of conjueror's large tournament bracket is the same winner as the winner of his mini poll before.

mfw when he reveals the winner is actually his secret project and hes been planning and rigging votes the entire time

>>14809669
What

What is your face

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>>14805214
>Beat Blades Haruka - temporarily delayed

>>14810757
>temporarily delayed

It's not ever going to stop being delayed. It's permanently delayed.

>>14810766
I want it to be released so I can pirate it already.

hahaha if only they got hit for more so that they get bankrupt. https://denpasoft.com/news/complementary-steam-keys-removed-from-titles/

Is there a download for Yurirei yet?

>>14811504
nop

>>14811387
>30k worth of Steam keys stolen from them
>They'll disable all of these keys

>>14807301
do any of those games have girls throwing up?

gotta have a game where the girls drink, put more than 2 beers in a girl and they usually throw up. unless they're slavic.

Hey, MG staff, did this guy guess right?

http://vnsnow.com/jp3s-soapbox-winged-cloud-and-reading-comprehension/

I feel bad for MG. Why doesn't this shit happen to Sekai/Denpa instead of the only decent company in eroge?

>>14812015
It literally just happened with sekai too.

>>14812035
Good. I hope they lose alot more money than MG.

>>14812061
The money, whatever. I hope they lose trust from the people they keep duping or bribing into partnering with them and even more of their deals fall through.

Has Herkz EVER made a joke? I've noticed the man has absolutely no sense of humor.

>>14811727
Ha, that's pretty funny. MangaGamer hated Winged Cloud's work so much that they couldn't stand to release it even though it was profitable. It's amusing that they were happy to partnership with Sekai Project again considering the circumstances under which they left, but I guess they had literally nothing else. No big loss for MG, but a bit of a shame since Sakura Santa's editing was actually good. They were the only thing that could have made those games redeemable.

Meanwhile Sekai Project's going through their own shit so I can laugh at them too.

>>14812453

It seems as though WC just up and left MG. I doubt it had anything to do with some fictitious set of standards MG has, considering they were more than happy to release all things Tilley.

>>14812926

The best part about that is the agreements that MG place on a developer fucks them over hard if they walk up and leave like WC did. At least for the /evn/ people, MG is a horrible choice.

>>14812426
SJWs don't have a sense of humor.

>>14812926
Sakura Dungeon has gameplay, so it could be a broken mess.

>>14813242
Really? And hi dovac.

>>14807959
pls exploit me dovac-sama

>>14813242
>the agreements that MG place on a developer fucks them over hard if they walk up and leave like WC did

source

>>14813242

Business contracts generally are worded to discourage one side or another from just dropping the other like a deadbeat boy/girlfriend without consequence, otherwise there'd be no point to signing one in the first place. The idea behind signing a contract to form a relationship between studio and publisher means staying within the bounds of that relationship, and if one side wants to get the fuck out of that relationship without the consent of the other, there's going to be consequences.

And even then, if you voluntarily sign a contract that "fucks you over hard if you walk up and leave", you have only yourself to blame for getting fucked over hard if you decide to, well, walk up and leave, and only yourself to blame for agreeing to it in the first place and not trying to negotiate something more transient and less consequential in the long run.

In other words, hi Dovac. Stop trying to spin things your competitor does and you fail to because they're a better company than you as something stupid.

Oh, weren't you also having trouble with credit card fraud recently? I seem to remember you having some choice words about what MG "could have been doing" about it. Makes people wonder how the exact same thing could have happened to you a heartbeat later, oh expert of business practices.

>>14814082
I've heard from various people in the evn scene that dovac doesn't have written contracts with developers, which is retarded from a business standpoint. No wonder Winged Cloud was able to just walk off and take the entire Sakura series catalog with them.

>>14811727
Sounds like the person was writing with heavily tinted glasses. First of all, all assumptions are based on the fact that MG wouldn't want to release something of low technical standard.

This simply is not true for ANY game publisher in the modern world. As long as there is a profit to be made, ANY game will be released, no matter what.

With that in mind, the conclusions being drawn just sound like something a dedicated fanboy would say.

>>14814291
>As long as there is a profit to be made, ANY game will be released, no matter what.
And herein lies why people like MG but hate SP...

>>14814298
As if MG didn't release their fair share of shit games. Just browse their catalog for a few minutes, half of it is outright trash. There is no justification other than "we release what makes money".

>>14814291
The dude who wrote that article hates porn and ecchi.

>>14814311
Those games at least work. I'm betting that anything made by Winged Cloud that has gameplay is going to be a buggy mess that will be lucky to run.

>>14814311
Softhouseseal and Morningstar games are professional, commercial-grade nukige which do exactly what is required from them. Writing in SHS games is even fun to read, and definitely does not feel to be amateur.
On other hand, in WC games only art is on acceptable level. Writing there is horrible even by fanfic standards, these "original english novels" are full of "japanese" (author does not know Japanese, so its just typical anime lexicon) words and very bad English.
If you don't feel urge to murder writer when you see something like "Ara-ara~~, such kawaii girl~~" in 10$ "English novel", there's something very wrong with you.

>>14814311
Having standards and releasing games that you don't like are two different topics, try to keep up.

>>14814311
There's a very big difference between some high budget, well translated porn about fucking your sister and some three hour steam shovelware OELVN filled with typos and shitty art.

NISA is localizing that Psycho-Pass VN for PS4/Vita/Steam

>>14814782
Not sure if I have any trust left for American localization. They listen too much to SJW.

>>14814392
Only one of them has pretentious Korean and Chinese Americans gushing over how important and magical they are?

>>14814931
It's NISA. I have no idea how they'll translate something as complex as PP, considering they struggle to actually translate Nepu Nepu.

>>14814782
It's NISA, they aren't going to translate it. Just rewrite to get just the plot points right and throw in some memes and game breaking bugs that weren't there before.

This isn't even "People don't care about translation quality" anymore, look at the new Fire Emblem and the number of people defending it. People straight up don't mind companies rewriting stuff.

>>14815129
Unless it's a fan translation

>>14814782
that may be the worst news I've heard all year. does anyone really think NISA will be true to the urobutcher?

i just hope 5pb uses the steam port for japan as well so there's ITH

>>14815202
>true to the urobutcher

He didn't write it, so there's nothing to be true to.

>>14814782
I don't understand. 5pb. is the main reason why Steins;Gate isn't on Steam and also is the reason why we still don't have a Oretsuba announcement. Why are they even partnered with NISA?

>>14814392

They're perfectly fine with releasing Tilley.

>>14815871
Steins:Gate is going onto Steam, 5pb just wanted to self publish it and cut JAST out.

>>14815907

Seeing how long JAST takes to do anything, I fullyheartedly support 5pb's decision.

flowers when

>>14816488
Soon

>>14806594

Order Number - 164980
Order Date - 2016-02-23 09:08:30

So is Nekopara actually good or is it bottom of the barrel kusoge?

>>14817012
It's mediocre.

>>14817012
It's not that bad. The hate for it is mostly because of how successful it is for SP. If it were some MangaGamer release selling a few hundred copies it would be much better liked.

>>14817012
It's awful.

>>14817012
SHS-tier cat-fucking nukige with terrible machine-grade "translation".
Only good thing about it is Sayori art, but it works much better in manga form.

>>14815129
You better appreciate they're rewriting Fire Emblem because the original script is garbage. You're getting the superior version, dumbbell.

>>14817140

I didn't mind the changed Soleil support, but otherwise I haven't seen anything to make such a statement correct.

>>14817239
Well, I haven't really played the new game, but the original writing was incredibly boring and stale in the Awakening, while in the English version the cast had character and their conversations were actually entertaining (it was one of the few cases where I felt like I missed out by playing the game in JP, as with Vagrant Story and FFXII).

Anyway, I assumed the same people were involved this time, and it'd be pretty hard to make the writing more stale than whatever those hacks on the JP end turn out.

>>14817374
Personally, I don't generally mind that too much, as Japanese writing is typically pretty bland, but I think Nintendo's Fire Emblem team and Square's localization team usually take things way too far, the same as NISA with its memes and cutesy nonsense in Neptunia. It's obnoxious and reeks of try-hard bullshit.

>>14817140
>You're getting the superior version, dumbbell.

Disagree. Replacing an actual conversation with ellipses and blushing does not strike me as any kind of improvement.

>Beat Blades Haruka’s release date for February 29th, 2016. Also, due to these unforeseen issues, we will be extending the discounted pre-order price through the end of its release week!

http://blog.mangagamer.org/2016/02/22/beat-blades-haruka-release-date-change/

>>14818114
It was nice of them to extend the discount for another week.

>>14811387
Just how much damage can one monkey inflict to the whole western eroge industry?

>there are people on /jp/ that support Treehouse's shit

Jesus, you EOPs.

>>14818674
What industry?

MG should just ban eastern european IPs, then there wouldn't even be a problem

>>14819253
It was south america scum.

>>14819253

From what I understand they were using proxies too, so it probably wouldn't have been very effective.

>>14819253
>ban eastern european IPs
;_;

>>14818114
What time does Mangagamer usually release their games again? I'm not sure if it's consistent, but Yurirei was 12 February 1200 JST wasn't it?

>>14819322

We almost always release at midnight EST and if it's a Steam release, around 4pm PST after that (we pushed Yurirei early on Steam because of the pay processor shutdown though).

>>14819358
Thanks for the info. Just hoped that it will actually hit the presumed date. Two weeks without a payment processor got to be rough.

>>14819283
>>14819253
Lmao. They have to use a VPN that is local to where the card is from. Also russians are more likely to sell credit cards to english speakers than cash them out.

You can't beat a 250 billion dollar fraud industry with your ideas bud.

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>>14812426
Is that a joke I can't tell

>>14819599
I wasn't aware Islam was a race.

Fuck SJWs are crazy though.
>respect women
>except this culture that punishes women for showing their skin, that's fine

>>14815129
>get just the plot points right
Wow, sounds like they've improved since I last looked at their translations, then. The NISA I know couldn't translate their way out of a children's picture book.

>>14805214
Update Schatten next time it's 86% translated

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/muvluv/muv-luv-a-pretty-sweet-visual-novel-series/posts/1499145

>Gabgrave: Project Lead
>Evan: Lead Editor
>Koestl: Editor and Translation Checker
> Cy: Translator
>Hachimitsu Lemon: Translator
>Sachibelle: Translator and Editor


Can someone explain why they have 3 editors and 3 translators working on this? And since when has koestl been involved?

>>14820686
It's a simple calculation: Three times the manpower equals three times the speed. Just take a woman, for example: If one woman needs nine months to give birth, nine women will reduce the needed time to just one month.

>>14820686
Probably for the same reason the original Japanese game has 3 writers.

>>14820700
>>14820686
Nein. The solution is obviously nine children in nine months.

So we'll get three translated visual novel by the end. Sweet. What are the other two?

>>14820686
Can someone explain why they're doing Muv-Luv?

>>14820686
>Gabgrave:
Oh good, the guy who keeps getting caught copying out of Google Translate.

>>14820686
Koestl said he'd be the translation checker last year.

>>14820802
They want an easy paycheck
It will be nice to at least have them on Vita

>>14820686
What about Grisaia? Not a lot of updates on the kickstarter recently did he get fed up of sekai bull shit finally?

>>14820686
They have a bunch of different sub-projects involved with the Kickstarter to translate or TLC, so it's not really that strange.

>>14820808
>>14820805
>Just to be clear, "Project Lead" means Gabriel is primarily responsible for coordinating the (fairly large) team.

Koestl on damage control already. Don't worry about how our translation lead doesn't know Japanese, we're paying him to do absolutely nothing.

>>14821104
I'd love to have a paying job that involves me doing nothing.

In fact, my piano teacher has that kind of job: She sits next to me for half an hour, lets me play whatever the fuck I want, throws in some random ass comments every know and then, and makes a lot of money off of it, too. Why wasn't I that smart as kid when I still had a chance?

Both Dovac and Doddler bitching about how persecuted they are for their bullshit without actually acknowledging that they did anything scummy.

Keep it up, guys.

>>14821173
If this is about being upset with them for licensing games with ongoing fan translations, you should probably check that entitlement in at the door.

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>>14821228
yfw

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>>14818704

Not I.

>>14821228
In the case of Alicesoft, the main issue was their messaging. Seriously, telling people the fan TL you got them hyped for was never intended to be released as a fanTL was an annoying thing to do. Add in the delays of those projects and I can see why the Rance fans would be pissed. Of course, it's also true that the fan translators were never under any obligation to release those translations.

The issue with buying translations is that they would exist without the work of the localization company. People would rather they translate something from scratch than release something that was going to be released anyway.

>>14821381
>they would exist without the work of the localization company
They already did exist. SP's only contribution towards most is slapping a price tag on them, patting themselves on the back, and then whining about how everyone keeps picking on them.

>>14821395
Don't forget that they bring all those VNs to Vita!

>>14821238
Fuck off back to >>>/v/ .

https://youtu.be/1wjaX0orUSM

You call this a translation?

>>14820686
wtf happened to ixrec

>>14821578
wat
>>14821580
he sudoku

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I havent checked out VNTL threads in a long while. Is there an archive of released works?

>>14822080
vndb

Nekohen now bitching to VNDB mods and getting their machine translations marked as real translations.

Sasuga VNDB.

>>14822516
https://silentsummertl.wordpress.com/about/

>Reach the point of reading with dictionary assistance
>decide to start translating

I can read with a dictionary (rikaisama). Should I start translating too?

>>14822568
Sounds great, you could do Flyable Heart.

>>14822568
I can kind of understand how someone might think this is a good idea. At low levels of reading comprehension, you're constantly translating to english in your head instead of grokking in jp. But most people at that point realize their translations aren't very good.

>>14822645
And they don't realize that coming to some random answer doesn't mean that you've come to the right one. They think that because they can guess at the meaning from a cluster of nouns/verbs, they always get to something that's close enough, which is straight bullshit.

>>14822645
I only translated and thought in english for the first 4 days of reading in JP with dictionary assistance.
after that, I just understood it as I read it in Japanese. At this point, I do feel like I could translate and have things mostly correct, but I know that it'd be stupid to do so, since there's still obviously a lot of knowledge and understanding still missing.

So who else here has stopped going to /vn/ over the past six months?

I wish /jp/ had it's own VN discussion thread for translated stuff.

http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/13265-special-announcement/

>>14822852
I went to /vn/ for the first time today and it was fucking horrible like all of /vg/

>>14822859
One of Fuwanovel's premiere machine translators has a special announcement? Oh boy.

>>14822859
I hope it will be live stream of him killing himself.

>>14822872
>>14822852
Yeah, he's one of the people who was part of this disaster.
http://hastebin.com/raw/lemiguruye

>>14822883
Machine translators can self-terminate?

>>14822887
I've only been reading in JP with dictionary assistance for less than 2 weeks and I can even understand these lines.

fuwanovel plz

>>14822915
>>14822887
Fuwanovel's defense, as usual, was
>That was just part of the let's play he helped with and recorded at the start, and not the final lines. Everything was fixed later.

Nothing was fixed.

>>14822859
So will it be him destroying sekai's NDA with a public fuck you to them?

Fuwa is live with some tube

>>14822852
Last time I visited /vn/ was a year ago. All the other 2 times before that I felt like my IQ halved after reading half the thread. I have no idea how Ti9 seemed to be having fun in that zoo.

>>14822859
Did they finally revive Her Majesty Aaeru The Queen of Google Translate?

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>>14820686
so how much should I be regretting giving them money to do this? have all the fuwatards responsible for the "translations" of other games been excised or are they still there?

>>14824387
>have all the fuwatards responsible for the "translations" of other games been excised or are they still there?
Look upon your translation lead and despair.
http://forums.fuwanovel.net/topic/1012-muv-luv-alternative-tda-00-and-chronicles-translation-help/
>I don't mind joining the translator team, but I use a machine tool to check the meaning for some parts before i put the sentence together.

>>14824811
I enjoy most the damage control.
>Oh, don't worry. His job is to coordinate the good translators, not to translate himself. That's why he's in charge of translation.

>>14820686
>>14824387

Wait what's the problem? I normally don't follow English shit, but I want to laugh at EOPs, so tell me details.

>>14824825
I'll tell if after you kill yourself. Deal?

>Koiken Otome - 98.15% translated, 88.90% edited, prologue patch released

Aaaaany day now

>>14822852
>it's
Fuck you.

>>14824387
>how much should I be regretting giving them money to do this?

A lot, considering that not only is it Muv-Luv, but you're also paying for machine translations you could just do yourself as you read.

>>14820686
To be fair though, did anyone actually expect them to do any work? I thought we'd just get Ixrec's already butchered crap. Can't be worse than that I guess.

>>14825978
Yup. I might as well start "translating" then, get that sweet patreon money

>>14825987
For what it's worth the Ixrec's translation was pretty fine (regardles Moogy whinnying), but now if the new translators are from AlternativeProject (aka FN) then I can except a machine translations (x3) polished by Koest or a Flyable Heart 2.0

>>14820686
as long as the person who can veto translation and make them redo shit is good, and koestl is, I don't think you need to worry too much about the quality of the final product

Jast claims the first volume of flowers will be out next month. Kind of unusual for them to put something up for preorder so close to the "release date". I wonder what's up with that?

>>14826408
>60% edited
>due out next month

Ok jast

>>14826408
Sumaga any time soon.

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>>14826453
>>14826420
>>14826408
Clearly JAST is going to release everything they have soon, and everybody will live happily ever after.

https://twitter.com/tyabann_da/status/702539414677929985
MG employees are usually cool guys, so what's up with this dude being such a shit lately.

>>14826599
he's with MG? SHUT IT ALL DOWN THE CALL CAME FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE

>>14826599
literally who

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/47cuez/eroge_with_a_censored_official_english_release_a/d0c32bh
>It does suck that a decent chunk of games now are charging a premium for adult content. It is like me ripping the last 50 pages out of a book you are really into and demanding money so you can finish it.
But of course, if I deliberately buy a incomplete book I should just get the rest for free!

>>14826599

it's just kaisos being kaisos

>>14826599
What's wrong with being against Nintendo US censorship? Are you some die hard fan of N of FireEmblem games? Anyone can complain about censorship, no one is imposing his opinion on you.

>>14826633
Sekai is screwing up though. If they cut out the voices (10 dollar patch), music (10 dollar patch), opening movie (10 dollar patch), and just sold the incomplete game for 10 dollars, they'd make a fortune.

Oh oh oh. And they could have the edited script be sold for 10 dollars and the cheapo 10 dollar basic version only has machine translation.

Man, they are on to something great, and yet they are screwing up so big.

>>14826679
If you read his feed I'd say he's more in favor of the censorship.

>>14826679
He's actually in favour of it, and keeps going on about people complain about it. Which doesn't make us much better, talking about person who supports it.

>>14826633
You'd think that google would want a share of the money since their translations are being used.

>>14826696
>>14826714
Sorry, I have misread his feeds as some kind of sarcasm, but if he's bashing people that complain in his TW then let it be, it's better to ignore him.

>>14826599

Twitter-stalking people like that is bad for your health. If you really have to, you should stick to people that actually matter. Or comfy people that just tweet about their cats.

>>14826727
Literally cracked up at this, golden comment m8.

When will Akame ga Kill guy ever come back?

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Kinda disappointed in this line-up.
Three clones, four if you count Komi. Not enough classic characters either, the roster seems very focused on new blood.

>>14827572

Who is Master Hand? Moogy?

>>14827572
Moogy is Jigglypuff and he keeps falling asleep and not doing shit until he gets fired.

>>14826167
>the Ixrec's translation was pretty fine
No, it was not.
Ixwreck's muvluv is literally slightly edited mtl, he used exactly same methodology as Garb but was worse at it.

>>14826696
Not surprising if he's in the same crowd as Xythar and herkz, of which there's plenty of VN translators

>>14828259
Kusos is not translator, he doesn't know Japanese (just like herkz) and actually ragequited #tlwiki because people were making fun of his inability to learn Japanese in several years (just like herkz), so he pretends to be "editor" (just like herkz).

http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440
It's here.

>>14828408
Gay.

>>14828408
How did MG get cucked on this?

>>14828427
Now we can see how much better MG did on their games, even though JAST is going to sell way more because of steam.

>>14828435
> going to sell
> free demo
What.

Sumaga when?

>>14828444
The full version. Companies often release a demo before the actual release.
>>14826599
Where the fuck do these people come from?

>>14828481
This is JAST, they don't do this "actual releases" thing.

This demo is terrible.

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What are you doing JAST

>>14828501
Didn't JAST say Steam was just a dumb bubble that was about to burst during the Shiny Days debacle?
I look forward to playing flowers on December 25th.

>>14828512
Of course, it makes sense to use the Japanese name of the English novel in an English translated game.

>>14828512
Why couldn't JAST hire the doddler? I guess it's too expensive?

>>14828523
How much do I need to pay to make him change his avatar? It bothers me that he's had it for at a least 10 years, since the iRO wiki days. Talk about appropiating art.

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>>14828512

>>14828666
Very meta

>>14828512>>14828666
JAST is now hiring from fuwanovel too?

>>14828512
That font annoys me.

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Why

>>14828710
WTF.

>>14828464
Any time now, anon.

>>14828710
dovac can be proud, he managed to kill VN scene.

>>14828785
What, did he assasinate all the good translators?

>>14828512
My mind is soo full of fuck right now.

>>14828837
>good translators
>working on visual novels

Like?

>>14828837
He made them redundant. Why pay to good translator, editor and QC team if you can just hire fuwatard armed with google and steam crowd wouldn't even notice the difference?

>>14828846
>steam crowd wouldn't even notice the difference?

I blame this.

Don't worry guys. It is a demo, it is in no way representative of what you are going to buy later.

>>14828857
haha

>>14828857
I thought the proper business decision was to put the most effort into the demo and make it look better than everything else, kind of like movie trailers. They sure are shaking up the translation scene with their bold new strategy.

>>14828710
I see Innocent-Grey picked a winner.

>all these MG shills here

>>14828880

They're just copying Sekai

> pointing out blatant mistranslations is now shilling

>>14828895
>counter-shilling

>>14828854
I'm sure even Steam crowd will be able to notice errors in Flowers, if demo is any indication.

>>14828916
You mean the same people buying WC games? I doubt they care about quality in the first place.

>>14828931
I doubt they even read shit.

I thought Makoto was supposed to read (not necessarily edit) every VN from JAST? Why is the quality going down?

>>14828989

he's only doing nitro stuff now

>>14828989
He has much more important job to do: Sonicomi.

>>14829018
Is that STILL not out?

>>14829042
You can preorder it from its official website!

>>14828916
Who even cares about errors in translation?

We all saw how well Fire Emblem Fates sold, and how most people defend rewrites in localization

>>14829119
Might as well replace all the dialogue with ellipses, I'm sure they'd eat it right up.

>>14824387
koestl:
>The primary translators are flagging problematic, awkward, or inaccurate lines and re-translating them. (There's also new content in the all-ages versions of the games + bonus material that needed to be translated.) Editors make their own passes for style and readability. After that, I'm doing a review with an eye both for translation accuracy and flow / personality.

I think it'll be ok

>>14826599
over 100k tweets and less than 1000 followers means the guy is completely irrelevant.

>>14829183
How bout this?

https://twitter.com/Conjueror/status/702658908490330112

I can agree with the localization being high-quality most of the time though. Just some parts are shit.

>>14828512
why couldn't they just write wuthering heights? who translated this

>>14828710
I would've gone with "what is the meaning of this?"

>>14829192
fuck this guy.

>>14829209
Uhh, its not the first line that makes everyone freak out, its 3rd one.

>>14829199
someone who has never heard of Wuthering Heights... or books in general

Woah guys, It clearly says flowers is 40% edited.
And we all know that editors like to work backward. Of course the demo wouldn't have the last 40% of the VN.
What you're seeing is just the pre-edited version.
Also the pre TL-Checked version.
Also the pre TL'd version that just got run through google.

I could literally translate it better with a dictionary parser and my current experience/ grammar knowledge.

#Free Makoto

Imagine the shit he'd be able to do if he didn't work at JAST.
JAST was so bad, moogy turned into a neet after working with them. PTSD I heard.

so how long have they been working on Flowers

https://twitter.com/KurosakaRyuuko

Dayum.

>>14829438
Yeah this really isn't looking good...

>>14829438
damn nigga goin in

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What the heck

So not only did they steal this from MG, they fucked it up beyond recognition. I'm actually kinda pissed right now.

I'm sure Jast will find a way. Right?

>>14829574
Yes, they'll delay it. They're good at that.

>>14829576
They better. Anything is better than what they have right now.

>>14829452
This is pretty great, a machine translated line edited to improve flow and throw accuracy clean out the window.

Well atleast now we know how they got it done so quickly

>>14829645

Also I get the feeling this is a sign of things to come. They've been trying(and failing) to replace Makoto for more than a year now while he's busy trying to slowly fade out of the company. When he finally manages to get out completely, JAST'll basically be screwed.

>>14829720
What does he have to show for staying with them so long? All those Nitro+ releases?

I see the news of Flowers' translation being total crap reached even here.

Who's to blame?

>>14829763
Peter for allowing that kind of bullshit in all recent Jast's VN. Starless, Shiny Days and now Flowers.
And MG because they had to discuss with InnoGrey and make clear that they wanted to translate Flowers instead of taking it for granted. Someone failed to contain them and they went with their rival.

Yurirei has sold over 4k copies according to Steamspy. I wonder if this is the most any MG game has sold for "full price", or over 30 bucks anyway.

>>14829918

Cho Dengeki, Evangile, then Kindred Spirits according to SteamSpy. But it should be noted that Kindred Spirits has, of course, been out for nowhere near as long.

>>14829953
Cho Dengeki Stryker has been 50-60% off for several big sales now. I don't think it sold anywhere as many copies at full price.

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Reminder.

>>14829892
>taking it for granted
What happened was very unusual behavior for a Japanese company. Everyone was shocked by the announcement. I still think it was a fluke more than anything else. And MG was already working on several IG/Noesis titles at the time, so they wanted to wait until those were out of the way before licensing Flowers.

>>14829918
Steamspy numbers for any game with under 10k sales are very suspect. And you also have to consider the +/- factor.

A few days ago Princess Evangile was reading in the 3000s range, so obviously Steamspy is faulty.

>>14829438
Wow. And you guys shit on Aroduc for finding like 10 errors in an entire game.

>>14829544
You're spinning this the wrong way. What they're actually doing is creating an incentive to learn Japanese, so that you can read and enjoy Japanese media in ``unaltered'' form.

Is there no Kindred Spirits torrent?

>>14830928
There is, in the right places of the interbutt.

>>14830644
Make that 30k. But yeah, the least the more inaccurate.
>>14829192
MangaGamer why?

>>14830946
probably because it reads better in English than in Japanese

>>14830981
That's an opinion, alright. I just think it's a dangerous one for a translator/editor to have.
I'd hate to see heavily edited VNs become the norm as it has become with Nintendo games, even if some with mediocre dialogue were better by it.

>>14830994
>I just think it's a dangerous one for a translator/editor to have.
Well, if they get the approval to take such liberties with the script like those at Nintendo, what's the issue?

>>14829763
Heard it was outsourced to sekai, would explain all the problems

>>14829763
>even here

You mean the thread that's known for shitting on translations?

>>14831089

That's a deep rabbit hole to go down. It was only twenty years ago where it was not unusual for companies to approve entire games to be reskinned into completely different products under the guise of localization.

>>14831125
#TranslatorsLivesMatter

flyingpantsu.net/hey-flyingpantsu-is-that-a-100-i-see/

>>14831287
yup. there's a reason why "robotech" no longer exists

>>14831764
>robotech
And still fucking up any potential western releases of Macross to this day.

>>14831563
>Any screenshots posted are WIP and may not reflect the final patch quality.

True Fuwanovel excuses.

>>14831764
And yet, Power Rangers does.

>>14831948

I like how people don't even know the original was from Japan. Now that's what I call localization!

>>14831945
>expecting anything from fan translations

are you new here?

>>14831948
The difference is it's being marketed towards kids I imagine, it means your shows can be a lot worse yet still be popular and sell.

>>14832133
Hate to break it to you, kid, but Robotech was marketed to kids too. There is no difference.

>>14831287
I kind of liked probotector. But it was a rather meaningless censorship / localization change.

Still no update for grisaia from sekai what the fuck are they doing

Everything is falling apart :(

>>14832202
Baldr Sky's not.

>>14826633
>Providing the "extra" adult content actually doesn't cost anyone any money; the content is already developed. The costs have been sunk. There's no reason to charge different prices other than to try and establish artificial product differentiation and thus make a little more money.
>doesn't cost anyone any money

Can someone just fix JAST already ?

>>14832530
How do they stay alive? They advertise on places where you pirate their shit, which they hardly manage to release.

>>14832570
J List is the money maker supposedly

JAST can't seriously be planing on releasing Flowers in the state that it is can they? I'm sure they've had many many people bring to their attention how bad it is, right?

>>14832745

How did this "translator" get hired in the first place? Don't you actually have to know Japanese? Looks like they neither know Japanese nor English.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/445440

The reviews are in.

>>14832806
Would JAST really release the game in this state?

>>14832827

No, it'll be edited for readability but not mistranslations. :^)

>>14832806
It's weird that they have such a fit over translation accuracy of this, but not for SP's atrocious translations or Kagura Douchuuki.

>>14832846
Well, SP is shit so when you buy from shit, you expect shit. People have a higher opinion of JAST's translation quality based on their previous VNs.

>>14832573
how much they mark up pocky, its no surprise

https://storify.com/KurosakaRyuuko/flowers-demo-translation

>>14832918

oh my god

>>14832918
So why did no one bother doing this for clannad or nekopara? Seems like a great way to force sekai to come clean with copying fan translations.

>>14833078
Because this is easily 100x worse than anything before.

So what happened to JAST, their translations are usually fine ?

>>14832745
Considering nobody is willing to defend this shit translation I think so. It's not a matter of censorship or anything, the translation is just shit.
It'll be delayed. It has to be.

>>14832779
Do we know who's on the translation/editing team? If there's even an editor

>>14833098
It's clearly a challenge from JAST to Sekai Project, daring them to be even more shit. The ultimate goal is to see how bad things can get before people stop buying.

Remember all those times people complained about JAST being slow? Turns out they were slow because they QCing the damn things. No QC means you get your games even faster.

>>14833078
This was bad enough it reached the "average reader cares" threshold, which is when it begins to negatively impact sales and company image.

>>14832846
nobody really cares about the script for Nekopara

>>14833173
The only people who care about Flowers are the salty fucks at MG about it getting cucked from them.

>>14833265
And all 10 people on b/u/tch.

JAST should start from scratch with "Flowers".