Visual Novel translation status Amagami - 1st day patch Released

Oreimo Tsuzuku - 259/268 scripts translated, 192/268 through TLC+Editing, 92/268 scripts finalized
PersonA - 44% translated
Rewrite Harvest Festa - 22583/30040 (75.18%) lines translated
SakuSaku - Common route + Konami route fully translated, 47963/49257 (97%) lines translated, 31858/49257 (65%) lines finalized, Konami + Mio route released
>Starry Sky In Summer - All scripts translated, 165/177 scripts edited
SubaHibi - 100% translated, 2nd editing pass and QC remain
Tasogaredoki no Kyoukaisen - 100% translated and edited, QC and technical work remains
Tsujidou-san no Jun'ai Road - 12/323 scripts translated
Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete - 4282/35056 (15.7%) lines translated
>White Album 2 - 10226/35275 (28.98%) lines of closing chapter translated
Witch's Garden - 38311/67201 (57.01%) lines translated, 2221/67201 (3.31%) edited, prologue patch released
Yosuga no Sora - Translation status is Common route 100%, Sora route 100%, Nao 78.42%, Kazuha 100%, Akira 89.73%, Motoka 32.17%, Common and Kazuha fully edited


Official work

MangaGamer
Kara no Shoujo 2 - 10/30 release
Euphoria - In beta
Free Friends 2 - 100% translated and edited
Higurashi Hou -Onikakushi released, Watanagashi in scripting
Bokuten - 66.5% translated, 30.05% edited
>Da Capo 3 - 60.0% translated, 15.5% edited
>Gahkthun - 100% translated, 76.67% edited
>OZMAFIA - 84.5% translated
>House in Fata Morgana - 82.6% translated
>Myth - 45.36% translated, 37% edited
My Boss Wife is My Ex - 100% translated and edited
Kuroinu - Being released as 3 seperate chapters, 18.13% TL 18.13% edited
>Supipara - Ch 1 100% translated, 89.42% edited
>Yurirei - 63% translated, 55% edited
Himawari - TL and editing finished
>Beat Blades Haruka - 62.8% Translated
Umineko - Picked up
>Tokyo Babel - 43% translated
Negai no Kakera - Picked up
Princess Evangile W Happiness - Picked up

JAST
Sonicomi - Fully translated, in editing
Sumaga- Fully translated, in editing
Trample on Schatten- main scenerio 100% translated and edited, extra content 33% done
Flowers - Fall release planned, 100% translated, preparing to port
Seinarukana- Translation and coding finished, waiting on LE materials.
Django - 1st half of 2016
Sweet Home - 10% translated
Sumeragi Ryoko - 100% translated, in editing and testing


Sekai/Denpa
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
>Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title in TL through end of Nov
>Clannad - 2 of 3 QC passes done, 4Q 2015 release
WAS - Kickstarter finished, delayed
Atom Grrrl - 100% translated
>Narcissu 3rd - 25.50% translated
>Narcissu 0 - 3.80% translated
WEE 3 - 7.39% translated
>Nenokami - 32.17% translated
Kokonoe Kokoro - picked up
Shizuku no Oto - picked up
Sacrament Sheep - In Beta
Memory's Dogma - Kickstarter reached goal
>G-Senjou - Q4 release
Chrono Clock - Picked up
Root Double - Picked up
Tenshin Ranman - Picked up
Witch Boy - Kickstarter started
Darekoi - Picked up
Wagamama High Spec - 2016 release
Mayoi Hitsuji no Kajuen - Picked up


Other
Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter Started
Harmonia - Steam release planned
Eiyuu Senki - Delayed a few months from Summer
Lucky Dog - Possible iOS released based on the ongoing text only fanTL
Work being done on a fanTL of Shin Koihime with hopes of getting it licensed
Wish Tale of the Sixteenth Night - 1522/10288 (15.09%) lines translated
Harvest December - 3DS ports being released
Norn9 - November 11th release
Code Realize - November 24th release
Kyuuketsu Hime no Libra - English released planned
Magical Eyes - Winter release planned

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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Eat a dick Dan88.

Has Himekishi Lilia been translated? If not... how? That game looks awesome.

>>14206841
>has shitty 12 year old rape nukige been translated
>HOW COULD SHITTY 12 YEAR OLD NUKIGE NOT BE TRANSLATED!?!?!?!?

GOOD!

Also, did this VN ever show up in this thread? It's Japanese but I don't remember seeing it here at all.

http://www.rpgdl.org/rsl/en.html

Any news on full uncensor patch for Shiny Days yet?

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Bundle redemption appears to have finally ceased.

In other news, if you were of the few people pining for that ef hardcopy, it appears to finally gone out of stock. Either that, or they got packed up to go to comic con.

As usual, post order numbers if you got em'

Epic drama unfolding, famous VN activist-cum-journalist sanahtlig is being oppressed by evil corporations, http://forums.mangagamer.org/viewtopic.php?p=16665#p16665
Swift retaliation expected, Crusade Against MG Censorship Soon™

>>14207354
>I've decided not to promote this title since my promotion of Oyako Rankan resulted in a 5-day account suspension. As such the OP has been removed. I've also decided to no longer purchase or promote other MangaGamer releases.

Oh no, how the hell will mangagamer recover without all that free advertising on fuwanovel and his blog?

>>14207354
Heh heh, cum journalist.

Has anyone else noticed that video game journalists tend to be some of the most easily butthurt people on the internet? Let's find out if it lets me post that word.

They've got such massive egos too, even if they haven't actually provided much of worth. I think an indie dev put it well when he pointed out that the industry could live without journalists, but journalists can't live without the industry.

>>14207393

Phil Fish.

>>14207354
Good_Haro laying the smackdown on him in that thread. I'm not sure what he expects, linking to fan patches of games from mangagamer partners on their own forums.

It's hardly ``epic drama'' when it's just one guy who isn't remotely important, famous, or even female (I explicitly mention female because for some reason, drama around females tends to create much bigger waves).

>>14207540
He should claim he's female inside and MG is transphobic.

>>14207393
My assumption is that they like getting butthurt because the holier-than-thou garbage they write afterwards gets them more views. I don't see why people follow the "drama" they try to create.

>>14207581
I do understand why people would follow it, actually. Because above all else, people are the hungriest for drama. They don't care about positive things, they want a show. And that's what they get with drama. This is why sites like Kotaku and Polygon are so popular despite being horrible - they go for drama first and foremost.

>Muv Luv Trilogy - Kickstarter Started
The goal's been reached (along with the Android + PSV releases stretch). I'm looking forward to a MLA reread on my phone.

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Asteriskfags on suicide watch.

>>14207778
As usual I'm not gonna open that image but it's annoying how people keep comparing Asterisk to Chivalry of a Failed Knight. The latter is way better, and honestly you can make anything sound similar if you get vague enough with your comparisons. Baldr Sky is basically the exact same thing as a Sakura game.

>>14207817
How's the former? I liked the latter's LN but the comments about the anime makes me think that either it's trying to be too clever or missing the point entirely.

>>14207818
The former is honestly not bad either (some pretty nice animation at times too), it's just that neither them are particularly groundbreaking in terms of their premise. My point is basically just that similarities to bad things don't automatically make something bad. Asterisk has already been confirmed for split cour too so that's gonna be around for a while.

What is it you've heard about the Rakudai anime? Incidentally that show also has the best OP of the season.

>>14207824
I heard that it plays the generic harem bits a lot more straight than the LNs themselves, doing the standard tsundere shtick even when the characters aren't actually like so. And reducing cool moments that displays the protagonist's skills.

I understand what you mean about premise as before reading Rakudai, I thought it had one of the most painfully generic premise too, but actually reading it turned out to be a fun, full of great action and sweet romance that you wouldn't realize from the surface layer.

>>14207174
So let me get this straight, since it seems to be flying under the radar entirely again (as expected of JAST): JAST promised to release an 'unofficial' uncensor patch to remove the censorship for Shiny Days, which totally made the censorship okay, then just didn't release the uncensor patch?

>>14207824
rakudai anime is so much better than asterisk

>>14207817
I'm enjoying both, but, you know, gotta work for the replies.

>>14206784

> >Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title in TL through end of Nov

Holy Shit
Release when?

>>14207845
The initial release seems pretty buggy, it's probably best they wait 3-4 weeks before releasing the uncensor patch.

That said, hurry the fuck up JAST. I'll gladly pick it up as soon as the patch is out.

>>14206791
> Grisaia trilogy - 2nd title in TL through end of Nov
What the fuck they have been doing all this fucking year? TL already translated first game or what? Fucking SP I hate them.

>>14207932
>TL already translated first game or what?
I'm probably missing some kind of "irony" here, but first game was translated long before sekai project even thought about licensing it.

>>14207841
Interesting, I didn't get the impression that it was playing it straight, which is one reason why I'm enjoying it so much. And the protagonist has been quite cool. Sounds like people are just being stupid, as usual.

>>14207958
Based on his broken English I think it's a fair bet that he's just an idiot. These ESL kids learn to swear before they learn the language.

>>14206789
>Da Capo 3 - 60.0% translated, 15.5% edited

Only 2 more years to go.

>Princess Maker is kill
Time to learn Japanese!

>>14208072
Why do you even care about this shitty all-ages raising sim?
Play Custom Reido series instead, they know how to make proper raising sims.

>>14207240
>Bundle redemption appears to have finally ceased.
I don't know about that, Demon Master Chris, We Love Master, and Ecchi Mery among others are currently among MG's best selling titles at the moment.

>>14208187
Demon Master Chris is a masterpiece, though.

>>14207354
He did violate the rules, but couldn't they have just removed the link from the post and had a little description saying why it was removed? Doing that and letting him off with a warning the first time probably would have gone over better.

>>14208200
Couldn't he just have read the rules?

>>14208200
I suppose MG staff want to make their position clear. No kinds of links to fan-translation patches and promotion of such patches are allowed.
This is also a good blow to that guy that is letting his ego grow bigger and bigger.

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Is Doddler going to switch to Ren'py?

>>14208302
I don't think he's familiar with Ren'py. BlackDragonHunt is the one who does Ren'py ports.

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>>14207817
>but it's annoying how people keep comparing Asterisk to Chivalry of a Failed Knight.
Can you really blame people when the first episodes were nearly identical.

>>14208375
A. The second episodes of both were shit.
B. Take it to /a/, fuckwads.

Current MG top sellers of the week:
>The Menagerie
>Divine Slice of Life
>Beach Bounce

I wasn't expecting to see something like this

You know, I have completely forgotten that Subahibi is supposed to come out at this point. There are so many games coming out constantly now, who even has time for the work of some neckbeard like Herkz? Summer might have been a good time to do it since there's always a drought, but that opportunity has long passed. You fucked up. May as well not even bother releasing it, because nobody's going to play it.

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>>14208426
> There are so many games coming out constantly now

>>14208397
Really? You weren't expecting the games that are most like Sakura Spirit to sell the best? This is what appeals to people. Low-priced fanservice VNs. There's quite an appeal to MangaGamer too since they can skip the translating part. Honestly, it's not a bad idea at all. There are tons of VNs like this in Japanese that are not worth translating, better to just have some folks whip up English equivalents and focus on translating the real deal games.

>>14208397
It's not surprising given MG's recent releases.
-October 2, The Menagerie
-September 25, A Kiss for the Petals RHWM - All-ages game that's a fandisc to an untranslated game, that can also be bought on Steam.
-August 28, Warrior Princess Asuka: The Final Chapter
-August 14, Beach Bounce
-July 31, Sweet Sweat in Summer
-June 26, Free Friends
-May 29, Forbidden Love with My Wife's Sister
-May 15, Higurashi When They Cry Hou - Ch.1 Onikakushi retranslation
- May 8, Ecchi Mery
-April 17, Amber Breaker

>>14208437
Wow. It could take you up to five hours to play everything new on there.

>>14208437
Games, retard. Not VNs. Actual high quality video games with gameplay. Get out of your box.

That said, if you were hoping to show a lack of quality with that image, you didn't do well, considering we've gotten some big VNs over the past few months too. The rate at which VNs are being translated is impressive, when you think back to the years when we were lucky to get two patches in an entire year.

>>14208453
>Games, retard. Not VNs
>>>/vg/

>>14208448
You don't actually read visual novels, do you?

>>14208458
Fuck off.

>>14208453
>we've gotten some big VNs over the past few months too
No.

>>14208453
None of VNs first time released in past half year could be called "big".

>>14208463
No, you. Vidiya is offtopic for both this thread and this board. Go fap to your favorite FPS among retards like you.

>>14208443
Not so much like Sakura, but they are the newest releases. And who do not expect newest games to sell more than old games?

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>>14208375
A few similar aspects does not mean they are identical. Oh man, Sword Art Online and Kikokugai both have a sword wielder that wears a black longcoat, guess they're the same thing.

>>14208392
I'm probably not going to bother with Asterisk to find out its quality until it's over, but I thought Cavalry's second episode was pretty good. Don't see what there is to hate about it.

>>14208481
Pity that Kiss didn't do well.

>>14208485
Take it to /a/, you tasteless shitbag.

>>14208477
What an embarrassing post. And you're surprised when people look down on you.

>>14208495
Stop projecting and fuck off to your home board.

>>14208487

It probably sold more on Steam. There's no porn so what's the motivation to buy directly from MG?

>>14208474
What's with this specification about "first time releases"? You realize most people here aren't able to play these games in Japanese, right? This is the first time some people have ever been able to play Lamento. You cannot deny that is a big deal.

>>14208507
'Home board'? Are you trying to suggest you actually live on this site? Wooooow.

>>14208509
> What's with this specification about "first time releases"?
It means re-releasing Grisaia for shekels doesn't count.
> This is the first time some people have ever been able to play Lamento. You cannot deny that is a big deal.
Sorry, but niche BL game cannot be called big deal.
データ数 23 — even doujin crap gets more votes than this.

>>14208509
>This is the first time some people have ever been able to play Lamento. You cannot deny that is a big deal.
Random fringe yaoi crap badly machine translated by a group that shits out 4-5 'translations' a year?

I think it's pretty easy to deny that's a big deal.

>>14208487
I don't think an all-ages game has ever done very well for MG. Go Go Nippon was basically a flop before it got on Steam. Now look at it getting DLC.

>>14208523
>>14208525
>Lamento
>niche and "fringe"

There is naught but to lol at this. What do you guys do with your lives besides sitting around listening to Moogy-sama and wishing you could understand Japanese?

>>14208481
One of these games is on pre-order. It's a real shame to not see KnS 2 on the top sales.

>>14208529
So what the fuck, are we saying it didn't do well based on site sales? Shouldn't it be obvious that Steam sales are what's actually important? And we can check those easily.

>>14208532
Big thing:
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=21076

Your bl shit:
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=7083

Numbers don't lie.

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>>14208532
Just because it has a middling reputation, poor sales, and nobody played it doesn't mean it's not niche and fringe!

What the shit is going on with MG's weekly ranking? It's changing back and forth right now. Currently Imopara is top ranked.

>>14208543
http://steamspy.com/app/397270
>Owners: 3,358 ± 1431

>>14208548
>>14208549
>using EGS as a source

What can I even say to this retardation? Come back when you've actually learned Japanese.

>>14208523

Shocking the userbase of EGS doesn't really play BL or otome games!

>>14208553
You're seeing the hard-copies section.

>>14208554
That's pretty damn good for a VN that just came out.

>>14208567
I'm actually on the front page. Also, I wasn't aware they separated them now. I remember the rankings used to be mixed.

So really all I'm seeing as the argument against "Tons of games are coming out" is "Nuh uh nothing's coming out because I say so!!"

>>14208579
A better way to phrase it would be nothing they're interested in is coming out.

>>14208579
>>14208437 is more than enough to disprove your shit. If you think your bl crap is "big" you are free to "play" it all you want.

>>14208549
I think the extra space in "didn't" bothers me more.

>>14208571
That's not really impressive for an under $10 vn on Steam. Indie OELVNs on Steam make those numbers, or even surpass them.

>>14208554
3000 copies of a yuri VN without porn at full price? Seems good enough. If they get a 50% steam sale some day it will probably double.

>>14208571
Sakura spirit and nekopara had 10 times more sales in same period. Not really impressive number for steam.

>>14208608
It's full price is only $7.95 and it had a launch discount of 10% off. And when you take into account Steam's 30% cut, it's sales might as well be around 2,000. Plus, Steamspy includes steam keys activated by purchasing from MG.

>>14208615
Hard to compete with catgirl VNs.

>>14208494
I will stay here as long as I feel like and will probably both argue with you and agree with you about various things in the future without either of us realizing.

>>14206784
>VNs in English

Will you please fuck off and die, cunt?

>>14208564
But it's real popular because... SHUT UP IT IS, OKAY!?

>>14208665

UtaPri, a game that's sold well over 300k copies has two data points on EGS. What does that tell you about the kind of people who use EGS?

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RIP eroge.

>>14208690
Thankfully we have enough untranslated games to last us for the rest of time.

>>14208690
Mugi doesn't even play actual eroge. He's not looking for good ero or good characters, he's looking for hipster/progressive writing with crazy stories. That kind of stuff is in decline, but ero itself is doing well. We will see less titles released in next years, but it would still be more than one could read, if one can enjoy ero/moe stuff.

>>14208722
Is there any way to find how eroge sells in Jap nowday?

>>14208739
There are no actual numbers for professional stuff published. But number of titles per year is nice ballpark estimate, companies cannot operate in red for too long.

>>14208690
He's just joking guys. Eroge is still alive and well..

>>14208690
Maybe he would be writing more VNs if he didn't screw over his staff.

>>14208690
Moogy's also declared that there will be only three more high profile eroge, ever. He's already named which three they are. None of them have been released.

Because a couple of his favorite pretentious authors are writing LNs. LNs that aren't even particularly popular at that.

>>14208302
That happened because of the last update to unity that fixed something full-screen related.

Moogy-hecka-dunno

>>14208867
I don't even know what the fuck his definition of a high profile eroge is, because by every metric I've seen, the Rance series sure as fuck hasn't been since Quest.

I feel sorry for all those poor bastards buying the Menagerie, I pirated it and I still feel ripped off.
Barely any porn, terrible writing and scenes appearing out of order and in the middle of other scenes.

I would say 'I don't know why Mangagamer puts this shit on their site' but I suppose it's for the cash money

>>14209030
MG kind of wants to be the go-to place for anime porn games. Not a bad plan, but there's a lot of shitty games coming out, and the site is bad.

>>14208690
What's so good about looseboy? I hated GSnM

>>14209103
SnK is cool, tbh.

>>14209030
I started playing it but after having to deal with no sounds and coding errors that the developer said he's going to fix next week, I have the game on hold.

I'm not expecting decent writing. It's too soon to expect that from OELVNs.

>>14209030
There's apparently a patch that's supposed to be coming out for that, since the programming is a mess at the moment. They also said they'd try to explain some of the plot points better. I thought they beta tested it, which was why they delayed it for 2 weeks.

>>14208577

Rankings were never mixed, it just defaulted to downloads

Now it picks hardcopies/downloads at random

>>14209142
>I'm not expecting decent writing. It's too soon to expect that from OELVNs.
I personally thought Human Reignition Project had pretty decent writing. Though it's almost all just slice-of-life stuff in the demo, so I don't know if they're also good at writing more serious stuff.

Summer House also had good writing, but that project was never finished.

>>14208508

According to Steamspy 3,000 copies give or take a thousand. It didn't sell well, but that's to be expected given it's a direct sequel to stuff they hadn't yet released. One of the more stupid decisions by MG in recent times.

>>14209544
Its not sequel, its prequel. It explains things before original game.

>>14209544

3000 copies is probably about within mangagamer's expectations, to be honest. It's a short game, so it would have turned a profit with half that. I doubt they're particularly disappointed.

KnS2 though, now that's shaping up to be a big disappointment .

>>14209681
KnS 2 looks great. I wonder why it's doing so badly. Maybe they should get more YT fags to do a let's play.

KnS 2 is obviously a sequel. They need to hype up the previous games to build demand. I wouldn't ever start with part 2.

>>14209845
You don't need to play the original at all though, so it's not that much of a sequel.

>>14209869
That convinces nobody.

>>14209589
It's both actually. The characters post-Snow White's Knight are remembering events from before Maidens of Michael (the first game they appeared in).

>>14209728
Story games have always run the risk of loss for MG, which is why they do so many nukige. Steam is what makes story vns more viable, but the KnS series doesn't have all-ages versions.

>>14209845
>They need to hype up the previous games to build demand.

That's not exactly something that can be done.

Still I can't help but feel that it might have been smarter to colon the game into something Kara no Shoujo: Girl of the Void or something instead of labeling it "the second episode".

>>14209982
> Story games
> KnS series
Nice meme) Story in this shit is worse than in Sakura games.

>>14210023
Watching Mouryou no Hako right after playing KnS... man what a disappointment I felt. Literally lifted entire plot devices

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>>14209869
Tokisaka is still chasing after Touko and the events are linked with the characters of the first episode and what happend in Cartagra.

Sure you can read it as a stand-alone like a moron but you will not fully enjoy it if you didn't read KnS and Cartagra before. InnoGrey made a whole universe here and it's dumb to start by the end.
I can't wait to see Touji again. People who will start with KnS2 will never know how important she was before.

I can't blame MG for saying that you can read it as a stand-alone because they really need money but it's some hypocritical bullshit here.

>>14210363
>InnoGrey made a whole universe here
by shamelessly ripping off Japanese mystery authors, lol

>>14210384
I heard about that. What's the name of the mystery novel ?

>>14210384
>>14210337
>Mouryou no Hako

Just google both titles together if you don't have time to read/watch through. They lifted so much that they've spoiled the original

Is it just me or are the VA samples on the MG blog doesn't work? I can't hear shit, yo!

Apparently Aroduc's translating nothing.

>>14208690

Who cares. Looseboy is overrated.

>>14208668
I like how he had absolutely no response to that. Fucking retards in this thread.

>>14208690
"Even Looseboy", like Looseboy is some high standard for VN writing. I cannot believe that this man is actually taken seriously and respected.

>>14208881
He really doesn't.

Are there really idiots here trying to say that Lamento didn't sell well?

>>14211829
Well, Looseboy is one of the most respected visual novel writers in Japan, so I'm not quite sure what are you trying to say.

>>14211867
...No, he isn't. Is Moogy spreading that bullshit too?

I really suspect Moogy does not know Japanese and just regurgitates what he hears from people who allegedly do know the language.

>>14211915
Then we might be living in different Japans.

The VN authors that I hear treated with respect around here are mainly 田中ロミオ, 丸戸史明, 王雀孫, るーすぼーい, 奈須きのこ, and, unfortunately, 麻枝准 and タカヒロ. Other names that I sometimes see come up are 虚淵玄, 正田崇, 瀬戸口廉也, 東出祐一郎, and maybe 日野亘. That's about it.

Then you have people like 健速 and 菅野ひろゆき that used to be highly respected but now are either dead or producing shit.

I see very few other authors ever mentioned by name, instead being called smth like Muv-Luv guy or Muramasa guy (you have to be both good AND prolific for ppl to remember you).

Incidentally, a lot of ppl treat Sharin no Kuni as the best visual novel ever written around here, and almost anybody into VNs knows the name Looseboy.

So, yeah, I have no idea where you're coming from saying that he's not "respected". I can only think of Romeo as a more influential writer in the whole industry.

>>14211867
> most respected
> juukishi scandal
> bokusen failure
Where do you even get this shit? Noone takes that hack seriously anymore and nobody in VN industry is willing to employ him, that's why he's running away to LNs.

>>14211976
>unfortunately, タカヒロ

Eh? Why would that be unfortunate? Dude does good work. Just makes Aroduc look like more of an idiot too, which is always nice.

>>14211976
Takahiro is much better writer than scamboi, stop doing drugs.

>>14212012
Looseboy isn't a good writer, but Takahiro is truly awful.

>>14212018
Then why is he respected? QED, bitches.

>>14212008
I highly doubt writing one vn that's not even exactly bad, just kind of meh, is quite enough to make ppl forget he gave birth to two of the most influential vns ever. Not to mention, regardless of critical reception, it's among the best selling eroge of the year.

Just having Looseboy's name in the credits boosts sales, so you'd have to be quite a retarded businessman not to want it.

You seem to be trying to bend reality just because you don't like Looseboy. How many of the other 100+ writers that released their eroge this year you can name?

>>14212019
Nerds are just trying to act hipster by disliking Looseboy, Takahiro and Kinoko Nasu because they're popular.

>>14212028
Go read /hgame/ or japanese eroge blogs. He is only mentioned in regards to whole juukishi fiasco, nobody ever remembers stuff he did in the past. Bokusen was forgotten next week after release.

> he gave birth to two of the most influential vns ever
EOP, pls. Nothing he wrote ever "influenced" anything, he's not Urobuchi or even Nasu.

>>14212035
> Go read /hgame/ or japanese eroge blogs.
Isn't whose full of moefags? Such type can't possibly appreciate plot centered vn. At least Sharin no Kuni is definitely very good vn and those are rare. "EOP" excuse is not applying here.

>>14212058
So you are not familiar with japanese eroge readers yet dare to make statements about what popular among them and who they respect?
EOPs never cease to amuse me.

>>14212035
You'd sound more convincing if Bokusen wasn't the second most voted eroge on egs this year, and Sharin no Kuni wasn't #1 of all time (even above FSN).

I don't even like Looseboy that much, and I can still tell you're full of shit. Or is google translate you use to read those blogs giving you a skewed picture of things?

>>14212064
This is not an answer. Why are you referring to my post and writing unrelated nonsense? Btw, not him.

>>14212083
You claimed that Masada, Alicesoft, Eushully and so on fans are "moefags" who cannot comprehend "plot vns".
>>14212074
> You'd sound more convincing if Bokusen wasn't the second most voted eroge on egs this year
With #59 spot of yearly rating, worse than things like 種付け牧場学園 ～学園丸ごとご主人様の家畜ブヒ. Truly highly-respected author, huh.

>>14212028
What exactly did G-Senjou influence? Every time it gets brought up in this thread people just kind of look down on it.

>>14208898
Rance X will be high profile.

Alicesoft have finally stopped making shit and more importantly it's the series finale and Demons are what everyone loved about Kichikuou Rance anyway

>>14212035
The fuck did Nasu actually influence?

Fate Stay Night was an incredibly popular and high profile VN. But it sure as hell wasn't influential

>>14212191
Dies Irae? And almost every chu2 vn that came after it?

You know that people who write vns also tend to read vns, especially those that are popular? And that's how influence usually works even if it's not always explicit?

>>14212232
I'd argue the influence of Nasu's works is pretty explicit. I think that guy is just high. I could go for some right now so I wish he'd share.

>>14212480
Oh look, it's the fucking ripoff sham game.

>>14212484
i no, rite?

Once again the English release ends up superior to the Japanese one.

>It's weird encountering lines in games that, due to scripting mistakes, never actually showed in the original.
>There's a few lines that never displayed in Gahkthun, and in KnS2 the very last line of the game got skipped due to a typo.
>mostly just random narration in a couple places. It seems unintentional though, so we're putting them back.

Source: Doddler's twitter

>>14212496
EXCLUSIVE CONTENT AVAILABLE ONLY IN ENGLISH VERSION

>>14212511
They really should advertise it like that.

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>>14212511
>>14212515
You just had the same idea as Herkz. How do you feel about that?

>>14212484
I don't know if KnS2 is a ripoff of some mystery novel, but I wouldn't be surprised given what I know about Cartagra and KnS.

Of course that doesn't mean it can't be a good story. Hopefully InnoGrey ripped off something really epic

>>14212530
What did Cartagra rip off?

KnS2 just finished its beta test.
https://twitter.com/tulipgoddess/status/653402851448778752

>>14212525
Great non-Japanese reading minds think alike.

>>14212011
>Just makes Aroduc look like more of an idiot too, which is always nice.
What does Aroduc have to do with Takahiro?

>>14212991
Tsuyokiss, Majikoi, and Akame ga Kill.

Reddit vn popularity poll results:

Favourite developer
Pos Entry Instances
1 Key 51
2 Type-Moon 45
3 07th Expansion 27
4 Nitroplus 25
5 Age 15
6 Overdrive 12
7 Innocent Grey 7
8 Akabei Soft2 6
9 Liar-soft 5
10 Favorite 5

Best translation
Pos Entry Instances
1 Grisaia no Kajitsu 100
2 Steins;Gate 17
3 Umineko no Naku Koro ni 11
4 Rewrite 7
5 Muv-Luv Alternative 5
6 Saya no Uta 5
7 Phoenix Wright 5
8 Fate/stay night 3
9 Hanachirasu 3
10 Phoenix Wright 3 3

Favourite Western publisher
Pos Entry Weighted score
Most fav Sekai Project 749
2nd MangaGamer 719
3rd Jast USA 562

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3ogp56/rvisualnovels_census_results/

>>14213152
If I knew reddit was doing that I'd actually participate in it

>>14213152
> Pos Entry Instances
> 4 Rewrite 7
> 5 Muv-Luv Alternative 5
Ixrec haters BTFO

>>14213251
Over 100 people answered that and only 5 and 7 people thought they were the best. Those aren't impressive numbers, despite their ranking.

>>14213152
>Favourite Western publisher
>Most fav Sekai Project 749

Did you link this so we can make fun of these dumb fuckers?

It's funny because you can't have an actual image of most of the companies' works unless you know japanese, so you could just swap type-moon with F/SN, age with MLA, and so on.

>>14213290
reddit is a great platform for brainwashing people to spread your stema for you

it probably got most of those votes because of muv luv anyway

>>14213357
That's probably true, which makes it even sadder because SP doesn't even have anything to do with Muv-Luv.

>>14213290
It gave me a good laugh.

I'm not sure if this game (in greenlight) is a japanese VN or a western one but the art seems nice and learning a little japanese while playing isn't a bad idea.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=530071666

>>14213601
Made by Westerners in Japan using art from https://vndb.org/v10417

>>14213412
Their last kickstarter update they shilled the fuck out of
1) Sekai Project
2) Sekai Project's failing kickstarter
3) 2 other Sekai Project games

It's like age licensed it to a company known in Japan that just dumped half the work off on someone else anyways.

>>14212530
I don't think Cartagra or KnS2 ripped off anything, at least no one has brought it up.

>>14213601

It's being made by a french guy and a dutch guy, so far as I can tell. It also looks pretty basic, so you won't really learn anything of value

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Pissed off at fuwanovel for deleting one of his threads, pissed off at mangagamer for banning him, pissed off at reddit for being pissed off about his blog shilling, pissed off at jast for the shitty shiny days launch....

>>14213728
Wait. Why did fuwa delete his thread? They tend to accept everybody.

What on earth is holding subahibi up?. Was estimated to be out in a month in july right?.

>>14213742

It was a thread about that dlsite park loli molesting adv. Apparently it was too loli for fuwa.

Kinda strange though, since they've got an immoral little translation project going on now.

>>14213744

The entertainment Herkz is receiving from the situation.

>>14213412
>SP doesn't even have anything to do with Muv-Luv.
Everyone confirmed as working on it other than Ixrec is from SP.

>>14213728
that sanahtlig guy is autistic even for the Western eroge fanbase.

Why don't people realize that erogedownload's admin isn't a translator?

>Dear Admin-chan,can you please upload Dracu-Riot next?I’ve been waiting for a fully translated version for a long time but it never came out.I’m counting for you to take up from where Insem left off..

The official releases even have the company logos come up on them, why do people think that the admin is the one doing the translations?

>>14214513
they're stupid or just don't ready anything, because even in the page said that.

>>14213003
Mainly Akame ga Kill, of course. SUCK IT, ARODUC.

>>14214566
Yeah, that's why he's well regarded. Akame ga Kill.

>>14214513
Man, it doesn't surprise me that people are dumb enough to assume he's the translator, but this person even names Insem. So he knows names of actual translators (I'm using this term loosely but you know what I mean) but somehow is still this stupid.

>>14214573
He's well regarded for all of his works, Akame ga Kill included. So yeah, Akame ga Kill is popular because it's good.

>>14214616
>He's well regarded for all of his works
Yeah, who can forget his timeless classics, 姉、ちゃんとしようよっ！and 悪戯4.

>>14214645
I can't, as they were all very good.

Remember when Jast said Seinarukana would be out in the fall?

After they said it would be out in the summer?

After they said it'd be out 3 years ago?

>>14214910
Remember the last time someone cared about JAST? Me neither.

>>14214959
They released a game literally a week ago, edgelord.

>>14214960
And look at all the people who care.

>>14214960
Censored trash doesn't count.

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There's been way, way too much noise with two OELVNs, two games, and bundles happening to make anywhere near an accurate prediction, but if I were to take a guess I'd say probably about 200-300.

kns3 confirmed for never, guess maria'll be translating alicesoft from here on.

>>14215048
Well, can't blame MG if they don't licence 18+ plot games any more after it. Nukiges and steam games seems what market actually wants.

>>14215065
It's a sequel to two games that didn't sell well. I don't think it can be seen as representative for all 18+ plot games.

I'll be buying Gahkthun, but I never finished Kara no Shoujo 1; why would I buy its sequel?

>>14214965
I've heard it's actually doing very well so, uh, way to kill your own point?

Seriously, in what world is the School Days series not a big deal? This is literally one of the most high budget VNs out there.

>>14214910
Remember when Moogy intentionally sabotaged JAST to try and make them look like a bad company when really it was completely his own fault? Good times, almost as good as when I got Herkz's ass fired. Not even the first time I've fucked him, either.

>>14215239
All SD spinoffs are poorly animated nukiges. They are as "big deal" as your average hentai ova.

>>14215048
Assuming they get more Alicesoft rights

>>14215120
Gahkthun will do find, as they'll be able to put that on Steam (they might even be able to get away with that being uncensored on Steam, considering that Yurirei is making it uncut).

>>14215243
Have you not played Shiny Days? It has significantly better animation than the original.

>>14215048
Maybe if you FUCKING MAKE A STEAM VERSION, you can get more people to buy the game! Jesus Christ, you retards. Have you learned nothing from the fact that your games on Steam ACTUALLY SELL? How fucking hard can it be to turn Kara no Shoujo into a game that can be put on Steam, the sex scenes are absolutely meaningless.

>>14215048
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/653807207365001216
>The unfortunate truth is Cartagra hasn't sold enough. The minimum HC print quantity exceeds it's total sales...
This is a very interesting piece of information.
We can already guess that when MG prints hard-copies, they print several hundred units.

>>14215556
>hurr durr this game without a steam version isn't selling well

Classic Doddler.

>>14215530

It's not like MG can just do that. They'd have to get IG to agree and it could end up costing a lot of extra money if the new steam version is considered a "new game"

>>14215530
>>14215558
From what I can tell, not many western fans (read: those that buy games) are fond of games such as KnS. Hence the reason why Cartagra didn't sell well and KnS 2 following the same path (not to mention it's a sequel). KnS actually sold reasonably well (after the LE sold out, MG printed a regular version) because it was reviewed on Kotaku and a youtuber was playing it. If KnS also gets a review on Kotaku and a youtuber gets on it, it's reasonable to expect its sales to grow much more. Anyway, the game is only on pre-order which means that people who know about it are those that have some knowledge of commercial releases of VNs. Time will tell if this release eventually become a success.

On another note, I fear the same will happen with Bokuten because it isn't a happy game.

>>14215120
18+ plot games still run the risk of loss, so it having an all-ages version they can license (OreTsuba never), being able to easily create one (Cho Dengeki Stryker), or it being non-explicit enough to put on Steam (Gahkthun and Yurirei) will make those licenses more appealing to go after.

>>14215556

I personally believe cartagra's sold about 800 copies, so that's interesting information indeed. That would mean the minimum order PCR will take from mangagamer is probably a thousand copy print run.

>>14215649
>Gahkthun
Please note that Gahkthun isn't confirmed for Steam yet. Also, since the game has big boobs you can certainly expect people making an even bigger uproar than they did with Yurirei. I know it seems I am joking but I'm saying this quite seriously.

>>14215048
Good. Happy that this trash is failed.

>>14215649
People keep talking about Gahkthun on Steam, but that still may not be possible. While it's true that Gahkthun doesn't show dicks or vag, from what I understand Yurirei is still a good bit less explicit. Steam is inconsistent as hell so who knows, but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

>>14215569
>From what I can tell, not many western fans (read: those that buy games) are fond of games such as KnS.
Really? I thought the western fanbase loved mystery stories, since they seem so fond of Umineko. Kara no Shoujo is a much darker story though.

>KnS actually sold reasonably well (after the LE sold out, MG printed a regular version)
I remember MG staff mentioning that they shilled the KnS hard copies pretty hard during conventions to sell them, so that probably drove the hard copy sales up.

Given that Kara no Shoujo is MG's 5th best selling game ever as of January of this year, it's a bit surprising its sequel is doing so poorly at the moment. It could just mean that many people never finished the first game, but a worse take away could be that many people didn't end up liking it, so they don't want to purchase its sequel. My theory is that there are a good number of people waiting on a hard copy of it to come out, but since it needs a certain number of digital sales first, they may cause a hard copy of it to not happen.

>>14215676
> read: those that buy games

>>14215676
> Kara no Shoujo is a much darker story though
Yes, as dark as B-movie horror films for 13 years old kids with poor gore.

>>14215569
They really need to start shilling the KnS series as the perfect vns to play for Halloween.

>I fear the same will happen with Bokuten because it isn't a happy game.
That game almost killed OVERDRIVE, so there are many people hesitant to play it due to them assuming it's going to be shit. MG has also given me the impression that it's not one of their priority projects, since it's been sitting unworked on for a long time now, them having prioritized eden* and Supipara over it.

>>14215676
>Kara no Shoujo is a much darker story though.
I believe he meant that all these games have the Utsuge tag and not many of those that usually buy VNs like it.

>>14215530
Fuck off Steam retard.

>>14215676
Umineko had the anime which granted wasn't liked by VN readers but that helped its popularity.

>>14215760
Reminder that Kara no Shoujo also had an anime.

>>14215764
I don't think its anime was shown on TV. :^)

>>14215764
lol if you're referring to http://myanimelist.net/anime/4879/Mouryou_no_Hako

>>14215809
Likely referring to http://myanimelist.net/anime/7265/Kara_no_Shoujo, which was shit compared to the game.

>>14215818
Wow, I didn't even realize they did an anime. Poor KnS, only getting some dumb porn anime when it's got a legitimate plot they could have covered.

>>14215827
Cartagra has one too. http://myanimelist.net/anime/6422/Cartagra:_Tsuki_Gurui_no_Yamai

>>14215695
I really can't imagine there are "many" people in the English fanbase who keep up with how a Japanese company performed as a result of a VN that hasn't even been translated yet. People mainly just judge based on how the game itself looks. So if they're interested or uninterested, it's because of Bokuten, nothing else. Besides, that only happened because Japanese people hate when a company they're loyal to betrays their expectations so they got really mad that they did something that wasn't a moege. Nothing to do with the quality of the game itself.

>>14215752
No, YOU fuck off. You legitimately want MangaGamer to die if you don't think Steam can only benefit them. You are the one who is killing the industry in the west.

>>14215695
>They really need to start shilling the KnS series as the perfect vns to play for Halloween.

On that note, are they actually? It looks like Subahibi is never going to come out so I might start a new VN soon. and I like when it's somewhat appropriate for the season.

Ah, but I haven't read Cartagra either so maybe that first. I'm not sure if you include that as part of the KnS series or not.

>>14215048
Is it suppose to be surprising ? There is literally no advertising at all for KnS 2 and it's a sequel, even if you lied about it and say that it can be read as a stand-alone, people will not buy the third installment of a serie without reading the others.
This is no wonder because the western fanbase is mostly made of garbage who want to show off their moege at their friends on Steam or want to read crappy nukige made by second class eroge company unknown in Japan.

Serious story-driven visual novel are doomed.
I pre-ordered KnS2 because i'm a big fan of IG and I want to reward the work of Maria and the others people who worked on it.
And i'll not blame MG when they will do only moege, second-class nukige, crappy title only made for steam, OELVN and maybe kickstarter. Because at least they tried.

>>14215843
You won't get the whole experience because you won't get nostalgic over old characters but honestly, they summarize who's who in the beginning and then the storyline goes its own way. It's up to you, really.

>>14215851
Yeah, I think I'm definitely just going to go with Cartagra first anyway, so no problem there. But I am curious, is the KnS series at all fitting for Halloween?

Speaking of Halloween, they should start putting up KnS 2 theme on their website if they want advertise it better. That banner they have currently doesn't really do much. It's quite plain. I almost skipped it.

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>>14215843
Wait for the snow, pal.
I did that for Cartagra and KnS and it was worth the wait. These titles have a strong atmosphere, especially Cartagra and reading them when you are fully immersed is awesome.

>>14215843
Characters from Cartagra make a come-back in KnS and KnS 2, as a side-characters but still they played their part in the story. There is a bad end from KnS which is linked to Cartagra too.
But the most important thing is that what happened in KnS 2 is directly linked to the events of Cartagra.

>>14215862
I live in a desert so I don't think snow is all that likely, but once it gets cold here I'll go for it. That tends to be enough for me to appreciate the immersion, anyway. Shame it's fucking hot here most of the time.

>>14215865
It's funny because i had the same conversation a few months ago, maybe it was with you anon.

>>14215846
I will still pray for Pianissimo and Caucasus. If I believe, they will happen.

>>14215869
Probably not me, unless I completely forgot it (which is also possible). But I'm sure there are others here who hate living in the desert so it could go either way. Someday I'll move to Iceland or something.

>>14215846
I want to know how their action titles, Tokyo Babel and Gahkthun, are going to perform.

>>14215855
It's a murder mystery series, so I think the tone is good for the holiday. You get to see some mutilated corpses, so I think it's quite fitting.

>>14215846
> Serious story-driven visual novel
> KnS
Except this is not a story-driven visual novel but a cheep rip-off with shitty porn in between. I am really glad that MG customers are not stupid enough to pay for this crap.

>>14215889
Agreed. I wonder who it is that actually played KnS and thought that was good writing or good design.

One of the many reasons why Moogy feels really fake to me is that he only started using the term "chuuni" after the big KyoAni show aired even though it was a very well known concept in Japan long before that. He just seems like your average western anime fan who only follows what's popular but pretends to be knowledgeable despite that.

>>14215870
It depends on how bad sales actually are. They're bad enough to not get hard copies, but as long as they break even and make some profit they would still be viable. Of course, there's the possibility that with how Cartagra sold and how Kara no Shoujo 2 seems to be going, that Innocent Grey might not want to license out any more of their story titles to them. If that happens they might try partnering with JAST, but right now it seems really up in the air.

>>14215889
Fuck off with the rip-off thing.
If you spit on all the works that are inspired by something else, not a lot of things to read or watch will remain.
It's inspired by a popular mystery novel. So what ? It's still a very good title, the characters are interesting, Sugina Miki art is gorgeous and the investigation is well done for a visual novel.

>>14215899
I was under the impression that KnS is considered a kamige in Japan.

>>14215901
Or maybe because he can't speak a word of japanese, just like his buddy herkz.

>>14215906
I suspect people are only saying that because that fucking chump Moogy did. The man is poison to the scene.

>>14215913
I don't think I said he could? In fact, my post was heavily implying that he couldn't, because he only copies what becomes popular in the west. And it's a well known fact that he wasn't even the translator for DraKoi, which is literally his only "claim to fame."

>>14215909
85/100 and 401 people voted on EGS for KnS2.
81/100 with 854 people for KnS and 80/100 with 1049 people for Cartagra.

Innocent Grey seems to have a strong fan-base in Japan. Not kamige-tier but still really popular.

>>14215920
I thought he translated (badly) SnK?

>>14215906
>Fuck off with the rip-off thing.
I challenge you to watch Mouryou no Hako yourself and see just how much is lifted. Entire characters and whole plot devices. It's not just "inspired". It's straight up plagiarism

>>14215920
He said that he translated Sharin no Kuni too but he's too ashamed to be credited because it was when his level of japanese was poor.
Truth is that he never translated a single thing of SnK and The n00b avenger was the real translator.

>>14215928
The plot is similar except that MnH looks like a fucking boys-love.

>>14215935
>The plot is similar
Similar? It's identical. You MG fanboys are deluding yourselves defending InnoGrey's bullshit.

>>14215935
Man, you are in for a surprise when you watch the first episode then. To be fair I wasn't expecting it either.

Please stop giving fuji_fruit attention

>>14215901
*facepalms*

Chuuni, as a word to denote a genre, is almost a completely western concept. The expression 中二病 was in Japan forever, but it was used as a word to make fun of people with overactive imaginations. It was unavoidable that someone would use it jokingly when talking about stuff like Dies Irae, but you'd probably only get confused looks from most ppl if you asked them what belongs to 中二ゲー genre. Some might mention a few games they thought were chuuni (had overactive imaginations) but they'd still be curious why you think an adjective (like "awesome", or "weird") is a genre. ><

I've been living in Japan for almost a decade now, and it's these boards that I've heard this term used to actually denote a genre for the first time. Even as an adjective, the expression is not used that much in visual novel discussions, except in the context of Dies Irae and other Masada's games.

I don't know much about your Moogy, but if anything, your statement makes me think he was following Japanese media instead of English weeabos that ended up adapting chuuni to their own language in a perverted form.

>>14215951
Fuji, did you finally stop being homeless manslut? You know, Cafe is getting his monies from MG, should be a bit more respectful toward those who saved you.

>>14215931
TNA is a pretty good translator anyway. I think he's working for JAST right now? And what's Moogy working for? Nothing. He's already killed any potential credibility he might have had by failing with Trample on Schatten. Probably because he didn't expect to land the job and realized his only friend Google-san wasn't going to cut it. I doubt anyone in the industry will ever hire him again.

>>14215958
I remember when somebody in these threads said LoTR was chuuni. I thought it just meant some little shit acting like know-it-alls not that if a story had something exciting going on that it was chuuni.

>>14215954
What ? The boys-love part ?

>>14215922
Well, Dies Irae is 85/100 on egs, too.

>>14215958
While its not that common, you can find "chuunige" used as both insult and ironically on pink and matome blogs, so you should familiarize yourself with eroge otaku culture first, before trying to teach others.
Of course, they use different kanji for "chuu". Leaving it as homework to you to find out which one.

>>14215961
I don't know why Moogy shit on SnK translation because i thought it was quite good. Not the best but still it was nicely done.
TNA seems to know japanese at least, unlike Moogy the fatty.

>>14215964
中二病 literally means that you have an imagination of a 2nd grade middle school student. I sometimes still have trouble to understanding what westerners mean by the expression as it seems they throw it at everything that has action or fantasy elements in it.

It's also very rarely used in positive light in Japan; it basically means that the thing is so over the top it's dumb, and I wouldn't say that LoTR is that.

>>14215976
Maybe he got in a fight with TNA and that was his attempt to "win" it, by pretending it was a bad translation (as if he'd even know). Lots of pointless drama on the scene, it'd make sense. He's just like Herkz, he goes out there and stirs up shit because he has literally nothing better to do in his life.

Herz, moogy, dovac. Who else doesn't know Japanese but pretends to?

>>14215965
No, I mean the fact that despite looking like BL it's actually yuri. Didn't see it coming.

>>14215993
Aroduc.

>>14215993
Fuwanovel translators from Malaysia ?

>>14215969
I guess we don't need Dies Irae then, we've got KnS2. Props to MangaGamer for translating the kamige.

>>14216003
Just keep hoping for Albratross Sky Butlers.

>>14215972
Well, blimey, it seems people did start using 厨二ゲー somewhat recently (though Dies Irae stuff still comes up on the top). Maybe I'm too old to keep with the fads of the young'uns, but I'm pretty sure the term is still way more "mainstream" in the west than in Japan. At least, I don't think I've ever seen anyone use it in pre-Dies Irae days when I still used to actively check the JP boards.

>>14216023
Cor blimey, that was a smashing manoeuvre! Good show, chaps!

Sick list, fam. Did you copy it from Fuwanovel? Shame on you. They did all the work, and here you are posting it.

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>>14207361
bahahhahaaha
sanahtlig is one of the biggest fucking retards on Fuwanovel, mang. He genuinely believes he has made a difference in the VN community and acts snyde and arrogant about it. His delusion is delicious.

>>14215987
>It's also very rarely used in positive light in Japan; it basically means that the thing is so over the top it's dumb
Is it not used exactly the same way here?

I would have thought the IG titles would be right up the "the medium can be so much more" faggots alley. Maybe they really do just want all ages titles with happy endings. And for what it's worth Doddler, I usually buy the last week of preorder. Hopefully others are similar!

>>14216141
>fam

Oh boy, this shit is leaking onto this board too?

>>14216217
>"the medium can be so much more" faggots

You realize that considering the fact that Sakura and Nekopara are the things that actually do well, the people you use as a boogeyman are a minority anyway. The majority want nukige and all ages titles that pose as nukige. Which is depressing because real deal games are what I want, but apparently I'm a faggot for liking Innocent Grey, so fuck you.

>>14216226
smh tbh-desu

>>14216247
Fucking piece of shit.

>>14216251
What's wrong, fam-kun?

>>14216251
Agreed. I'm gonna have to start wordfiltering those, which is annoying because I liked to use tbh for convenience every so often and then somehow it became a meme.

So it turns out that one of the Muv Luv kickstarter stretch rewards was to port it to the Vita, with the caveat that it might not be able to be the English version.

Age just announced that they're releasing Muv Luv on the Vita.

So... uh... they're asking for money to do something that's already been done, by someone else, which they're going to resell.

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There we go.

>>14216217
Based on responses to Doddler's twitter comments, it looks like people were just holding out for a hard copy. Now that Cartagra is confirmed for NOT getting one, maybe sales for it will pick up.

MG might want to reconsider their hardcopy policy, since this problem could keep happening. People want a hard copy and don't want to buy the game twice, so they hold off for a hard copy, but due to them holding off, it doesn't sell enough to get a hardcopy. Of course, if a game needs people to double dip to be successful, then that's another issue entirely. Hardcopy-only buyers are really getting shafted though.

>>14216268
The whole Kickstarter is a fucking sham that's only happened because Sekai Project told them they could get away with it and is even getting a piece of the action. What the fuck did you expect?

The problem is we can't seem to get these retards to stop throwing money at these pointless Kickstarters. That's the only way their bullshit will stop, but until then they're going to keep milking it.

>>14216257
>I liked to use tbh for convenience every so often and then somehow it became a meme.
I don't get why people are butthurt over the use of tbh. It's beyond retarded to act like it's a meme when it's a contraction of a phrase that's used on a regular basis in actual conversation.

>>14216276
I thought they said physical editions of their games are only a low percentage of their overall sales. At this point, the're only doing it as a courtesy for their fans.

>>14216276
I'm not really sure they can reconsider it.. they either have the numbers they need for hard copies to sell or they lose money on unsold copies. They've quite a lot of experience by now so I doubt the people who only buy hard copies aren't factored into the numbers.

>>14216287
Because people HAVE started using it as a meme on this site. They keep pushing this "smh tbh fam" because they don't have an original thought in their heads. On its own tbh is still fine I guess but with the posts it's attached to on 4chan you really get the impression they're just using it for "teh epik troles." Only 4chan would manage to ruin a convenient abbreviation because only they know how to beat a dead horse until it becomes mush, like how you now have people unironically using "lel" because Reddit used it for a couple months.

>>14216292
They can sell 1,000-several thousand hard copies depending on the title in question. Wholesale and conventions can move alot of hard copies. Boob Wars was one game that sold similarly for both its digital and hard copy version.

>>14216298
I wonder if it's possible for them to work with a company that would be willing to have smaller print runs of certain titles. Even some of the OELVNs on kickstarter offer physical copies as a reward, so it's not impossible.

>>14216314
That's quite possible but it depends on exactly how much of the total cost the printers make up. I assume there a quite a few extra costs for physical . You'd need to design the case art at a minimum, it'll probably have a manual (I guess you might be able to reuse a digital one if it exists), might have art on the disk itself, you'll probably need some QA for sample disks after they come back to make sure the printers haven't fucked up. LE packages must be a nightmare with having to design/source all the extras. Could be they'd need to design a lot of the packaging too?

Assuming the printers do package everything up for you, you're still got distribution and storage. At MG's scale I'd assume every hardcopy is sent out manually. Perhaps someone here has some experience making with physical edition or something who can do more than guess like me.

>>14216302
Profit margin on each hc is significantly lower than on dc, so even 2000-3000 of hard copy sales are making them less money than 1000 digital sales.

>>14216314
Those OELVNs don't have H-scenes so it's probably easier to find somebody to do a print run. I think MG uses JAST.

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Looks like /jp/ isn't the only place trying to convince MG to create Steam versions of the KnS games. That, or Herkz has been reading the thread.

>>14216367
Of course he has. Remember that time /jp/ made fun of him and he ranted on twitter?

>>14216268
>just
You mean like 6 hours after the kickstarter passed 600k a week and a half ago? I'm pretty sure there was a lot of Japanese putting in money for the Vita version and their main programmer was doing some work on it before it made the goal.

I'm surprised how fast it's coming out but ultimately porting a game that was designed to run on a PII with 256MB of RAM from PS3 to Vita is pretty trivial. Plus it's age so it will be delayed at least two months.

Yeah, it's a brillant idea to puting a game in Steam where a minor had a relationship with an a adult, get kidnaped, butchered, appear pregnant in the sequel (raped or by the protagonist) and found dead in the end. Cutting the sex scenes can't salvage this.

>>14216556
Butchering and death are no problems for Steam.

>>14216565
But a emancipated minor pregnant from a relationship with the protagonist or raped by the abductor yes. This is to risky for Steam and they can't rewrite this without changing the plot.

>>14216645
The sequel is probably a better fit for steam, but it would probably be awkward to put it up without the original?

>>14215676

KnS got reviewed by kotaku and recommended which brought in enough traffic to take down mangagamer's site

Cartagra got reviewed by no one.
KnS2 will get reviewed by no one.

That's the difference.

>>14216565
> Butchering and death are no problems for Steam.
> sex scenes are problem for Steam.
I realy love US.

I wouldn't care if mangagamer made changes to get their story games onto steam as long as they released a free patch that reverted the changes. Jast had a pretty good idea there.

>>14216899
By not doing that?

Personally I find 18+ story VNs to be terrible. You lose track of the story when you start fapping, and if you are not fapping the sex in the story is meaningless.

As I see it there are 3 good ways to make a VN.
- Just porn, and very short sections between. (18+)
- No porn, and an interesting story. (all ages)
- Massive nudity and a story. (14+)

It is the bottom one I wish the 18+ story VNs had gone for instead. Enjoyable nude scenes sprinkled over a story without distracting you from reading.

>>14216899
>they released a free patch that reverted the changes
Please stop trying to promote this line of reasoning. As already explained in previous threads, that line of thought shows that you lack understanding of how the current market is.

>>14217203
>the sex in the story is meaningless
Not true for all games. Subahibi being an obvious example, but there are also plenty of games where sex plays a role in character development, like Maruto's works or Sakurai's.

There are also other things besides sex that can bump a game into 18+ territory. Violence, drugs, etc. See Chaos;Head/Child which are 18+ with no sex scenes. But if you're releasing an 18+ game on PC anyway, you might as well just have porn and get the extra sales.

>>14217203
Uhh, there's lots and lots of story VNs that only have 1-3 H scenes per route and often at the end. And when you're talking a 20-50 hour story VN, the idea that a few sex scenes make you unable to follow the plot seems absurd. You can also, you know, not fap.

Personally I like stuff being 18+ by default since it means there's very very few topics that are taboo enough not to touch. The real world is 18+, no reason for adult media not to be either.

>>14216298
if MG needs a guaranteed minimum to do hard copies, then why not just put it up on kickstarter or indiegogo? isnt that the whole purpose?

>>14217247
what's wrong with this? isnt that basically why people are buying shiny days?

>>14216899

Steam told MG they're not allowed to do that.

>>14217457
The Japanese companies tend to view all-ages and adult versions as separate products, so getting them to give the adult version for free when it's usually considered the premium version might not be possible in all cases. Right now with MG you buy the premium adult version and they give you a free Stream key for the all-ages version.

>>14217443
MG's higher ups think that established companies shouldn't use crowdfunding.

>>14217482
What is up with their Steam rep? He seems to give them the worst advice and not inform them of sales they may be eligible for. Then again, Steam being inconsistent Is nothing new.

>>14217503
That seems inflexible. It's just a way for people to preorder hardcopies in a quantity that suits MG.

>>14217503

I think the real reason is that it'd make the numbers public and the number of people who actually buy hardcopies (not at conventions) is really pathetic.

>>14217716
if they were really concerned about this then they should probably hash their order numbers

>>14216367
Herkz reads and posts here all the time, he can't resist when this place shit talks him so hard.

What I don't get is why Doddler is acting like it's a novel concept. Really, fucker, you haven't thought of this before? Obviously you should be doing it for the first game too. You had no problem releasing all those other all ages versions, why would making one for KnS be any different?

>>14216824
Question. Why DID KnS get reviewed by Kotaku? How exactly did it get attention? And why are they unable to get the same attention for KnS2? I mean, it's still a good, serious game, isn't it?

>>14218486
Good Haro and Maria aren't willing to suck dick.

>>14218489
That makes sense since they are apparently lesbians. With each other, possibly?

>>14218473
>You had no problem releasing all those other all ages versions, why would making one for KnS be any different?

So far Cho Dengeki Stryker has been the only game that has gotten an all-ages version created just for Steam. It had very few sex scenes to begin with, which felt tacked to boot, so it was likely very simple to create an all-ages version and not effect the story at all.

All of the other games already had existing all-ages versions, so MG didn't have to do anything, and it's not them "censoring" the game if that version already exists in Japan. Though honestly, as long as the 18+ version is still available I don't see a problem creating ero free versions of games that could work without it.

>>14218504
They aren't willing to suck each other's dicks either.

>>14218473
Kara no Shoujo would take a bit of effort to work it for a steam release. Some option paths, such as whether or not to have a sexual relationship with Toko is central to the outcome of the story, and you would have to make a bunch of modifications to CG. You'd also probably need to make additional script changes beyond simple fade to black or cutting ero scenes.

>>14218523
Lesbians don't have dicks most of the time.

>>14218582
Don't project your values on them.

>>14218489

Ah, the lengths that kouryuu went to to turn mangagamer around.

>>14218589
I'll project my fluids on them, if that's okay.

>>14218665
Shame he stopped caring about that because he got sucked into the hell that is translating Da Capo 3. So now the company is falling apart and he can't do anything about it because he needs to translate DC3.

>>14218798

That would get probably get you arrested anonymous.

>>14218811
> now the company is falling apart
> more sales in last 3 months than in previous 3 years combined

>>14218817
Will it? If you bring your sperm in a can and throw at them, you will be just kicked out of con by security. I don't think it could be turned into felony even if some batshit insane feminazis jump on case.

>>14218827

That would be assault anonymous.

Man these threads get really fucking weird once they're autosaging and pass page 5 lately.

>>14218827
>I don't think I would be arrested for throwing my semen at people

How fucking clueless are you people?

>>14218849
He just has the wrong idea about how to go about it. You've got to be very careful about it and set things up so that you can pin the blame on someone else. Very discreetly spray your semen on Good Haro and Maria.

>>14218849
I've checked various state criminal codes, as I thought, if no injury happened and no contact with sexual organs, it will be simple battery in worst case, and its minor misdemeanor, with punishments like 1000$ fine.

>>14218926

Throwing a can at someone is intending harm, it would be attempted assault, and a felony.

>>14218949
I didn't mean throwing can itself, just splashing stuff inside. No reason to be mean to them after all.

>>14218847
Ironically getting weird is what makes them actually fit in with /jp/. When this thread is not weird it looks kind of out of place since /jp/ is always about talking about absolutely disgusting stuff.

>>14218953
You idiot, all you have to do is trip with the can of semen and "accidentally" spill it on them. Then be like "Oh shit, sorry I spilled my drink, I'm such a klutz."

>>14218913
>>14218953
>>14218958

If you've gotten to the point where you're storing jizz and spilling it on "people" accidentally, isn't that kind of missing the entire point of saying something like
>>14218798

At this point it's like the hover-hand of sexual assault

>>14218983
Sexual assault means at very least touching genitalia. Throwing semen is not sexaul assault.