Is America really the "Rome of 21st century"? Is the

>Is America really the "Rome of 21st century"?
No

>Is the relative power of America similar to relative power of Rome?
Nowhere near Rome.

>>79516486
>>Rome of 21st centur
>>Israel.
OK?

>>79516486
Yes
yes

it's at the same time Rome and Greece, as they are the most powerful and influential and their culture spreads all over the world

>>79516486
No, you Dumby.

>>79516486
Vietnam killed 90% of American Army.

>>79517115
Airforce werent safe in nam neither tanks.

>>79517115
USA had 58,000 deaths
South Vietnam had 1 million deaths

>>79517115
pathetic political war

>>79516486
no

don't compare our ancestors to such uncultured scum, it's kind of offensive

Not even close.

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>>79520785
t. North African

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>>79516486
No
We're more like british empire 2.0 really

>>79516486
Yes, but American culture is more pervasive than Roman culture; while Rome had a more solid expansion (territorial).

>>79516917
We are Greece m8, American ideas are European ideas on steroids

No.

The United States is not an empire, nor is it Roman, nor endemically Holy, however, it is certainly blessed by God Himself.

>>79520785

>my ancestor

this has to be bait my gothic friend

>>79524274
Romans are unironically his ancestors though

babylon
mesopotomia
egypt
greece
rome
Britian
USA

who is next?

>every powerful republic must be rome

>>79524336
Israel will be the final destination desu

>>79524336
Canada obviously
Global warming will open up all of our landmass and make it usable, then when water becomes the new oil we will be the wealthiest country on earth since we have all of the water.

>>79524365
>China is the new Rome

no, USA is babbie tier historical length with about 300 years. it needs postponing with 1700 years to be called rome.

>>79524063
Did you do genocide irish too?

>>79524523
Usa only been world power for around 50 years.

>>79524534

no, the closest you could say is that they were used like Ukrainians on the eastern front in our civil war

>>79524570

you know nothing, unsurprising really, you are American after all

contemporary Americans are too ill informed about their own history, and perspective in general,.it's maddening

>>79524336
China, then full world communism so no countries or states, China will be the last one desu

>>79524649
So USA isnt brit empaire 2/0.

>>79524534
We disliked the irish and considerd them inferior to blacks at one point. we did genocide a lot of natives though.

>>79524746

of course not, we're not organized as a myriad swarm of overseas dependencies and colonies

>>79524822

there was no genocide of natives

>>79524869
There was definitely genocide of natives

Are North America and Europe the Rome and Byzantium of the current century? Think about it.

>>79524891

no

>>79524907

yes

>>79525026

absolutely not

>>79524896
The EU as a new Byzance is funny, but I think Islam won't need 1,000 years to take over the capital this time.

>>79525064

I was thinking the same! :D

The US is probably stronger than Rome was, relatively, the US military is on another level.

>>79525099

you mean comparatively of course

and sure, that's without saying

>>79525124

I think relatively works there, too. But if not, yes, comparatively, thanks.

>>79521334
>UUR DUUR ITALIANS CAN'T BE ROMAN DESCENDANTS BECAUSE IT OFFEND MY ANGLO FEFES OF HAVING SUBHUMAN SNOWNIGGER ANCESTORS LIVING ON HUT.
well tell me, where romans disappeared suddently?

Rome controlled Judea.
Israel controls America.

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>>79525059
Don't be like the filthy german and shy away from your ancestor's past mistakes, my ameribrother

>>79525248
Gauls were more advanced than your pigskins from the snow.
but seriously what the fuck is that meme about italians not being descendants of romans?
your only arguments are "MUH BLONDE" about some emperors from some obscure sources and also pretending the villainous "arabs" or "moors" breed with everyones, some of you even believe Moors were black mans and take seriously that moment from that Tarantino movie.

No, Muslims invaded only some parts of the Iberian Peninsula and some Mediterranean Islands (including Sicily concerning Italy) but they were defeated, deported and the invaded peoples who assimilated to them was more religious than genetic.
Continental Italy was never invaded by any moors or berbers.

But you are huge cheaters so you will try everything, like rapes by turkish people on the 1600th or some christian refugees of levantines types from the crusades.

well we could tell you everything, you are exactly the same than those niggers who want to appropriate Egypt, just because you can't accept Civilization could have golden age and after it falls, and their descendants beings of the same race could become shit tier, and savages could become more advanced, and after it will be the turn of others.

>>79525566
idk man he posted an image called hat and you wrote an essay on genetics; I think he won

>>79525365

it simply isn't at all the case though

Look at it people >>79525720
another exemple of arrogance from the industrial revolution, they believe that shit was always like that and will be eternal.

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>>79516486
That would make us the Germanics of the 21st century

>>79525758
But what about all those times Americans and their Indian allies tried to wipe out other tribes (nations).

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>>79525879

Indians sure were cruel in their dealings with rivals, it's true, the only interest of the settlers was establishing farms out of the wastes, and fearing no more raids and attacks from the savage

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>>79525566
>He writes an entire Quran all because of one picture
>Every few seconds while writing this he had to quickly look around to ensure that there were no speeding trucks headed in his direction

What country would be Persia? China?

>>79520647
South Vietnam was your ally

>>79525980
That's ignoring a lot of history. Americans or proto-Americans killed a lot of women and children, made a lot if first strikes, burned non-combatants, poisoned peaceful Indians, etc.
It certainly looks a lot like a genocide

>>79525889
If only it were that simple irl

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>>79525838

>>79521334
A north african was caeser

>>79524336
India

>>79524336
LOS

>>79526272
ESTADOS

>>79526272
>>79526315
>*Los Unidos Estados

>>79526451
really? well ok then

>>79520750
It was a proxy war in the context of the Cold War.

Why would you even compare Rome to anything these days? Times are changing, I mean it really is fun to compare things but why Rome? Is Russia the new Byzantium? Is Turkmenistan the new Persia?

>>79516486
We're definitely the most powerful nation on the planet right now with China being our only real rival, which is somewhat similar to Rome.

But compared to our neighbors? Clearly we have the most powerful military and our culture is the most dominant on the planet, but at the end of the day we're no Rome because we aren't lightyears ahead of literally everyone else. If everyone else was just barely becoming industrialized right now, then yeah, we would be the modern Rome, but the sheer scale of how much more advanced and important we are compared to everyone else isn't so totally out of whack that the comparison is legit.

We are however the closest analogue to Rome in the modern age, no question about it.

>>79526722
>why Rome
Because it was hegemonic on a large part of the world lol

>>79516486
No of course not. Now invade America. They are weak.

>>79526934
>Rome
>lightyears ahead of literally everyone else

Lol

>our culture is the most dominant on the planet
It may have been 50 years ago. Nowadays it's shades of grey.

>>79527088
Invade America Poland. You can easily take them.

>>79527110
>culture
>military
Yep, that's the same thing

>>79527139
I never said anything about culture. I just want you to invade America.

>>79526989
Where were your roads, plumbing, organized infrastructure, and coins back then, you gaul fuck?

They didn't exist. Typical arrogant Frenchman projecting his need for stature on all of history to make up for his lack of modern significance.

>>79527110
Mexico is already performing that job desu

>>79527201
>he unironically thinks there were no coins and no roads in Gaul before Roman invasion
>he thinks Rome, not Greece, was the most advanced civilisation around (not even talking about Eastern civilisations)

Embarrassing lol

>>79527168
Can I invite my old sorta-friend Russia?

>>79525566
hello bilal

>>79526129

that's a lot of bunk

Rome was a bumfuck degenerate rabble of savage shitalians. USA otoh is indisputable the pinnacle of human achievement

>>79524336
China

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>>79528027
Daily reminder that an italian literally named and discovered your shithole country and without italy most of the shit you use everyday wouldn't exist. Show some respect faggot.

>>79529608
Hit a nerve, eh Lorenzo? Stay brown, Greek wannabe

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>>79529725
Italians and even sicilians are whiter than americunts like you will ever be. My name's tim by the way. You're going to get fucking exposed on youtube.

>>79529779
Posting a fake name won't make your skin any lighter, """tim"""

>>79526085
top kek

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>>79529837
It's actually not a fake name, nigger cuck. Have fun getting exposed <3

Originally the hegemon country in ancient times is China

>>79516486
Rome was powerful yes, but the US is in a different tier. Geography separates the US's power from Romes power, or even current day China and Russias power.

North American, most particularly the US mainland is blessed with unique geographical features that make it basically invulnerable to conventional attack.

why does no one consider russia as "the "Rome of 21st century""? we are pretty powerful and influential too

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>>79530190
My state has more money than your country, faggot. Sit down.

>>79530251
>muh gdp
kys

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>>79530190
>we are pretty powerful and influential too

No. the comparison is completely invalid. The US has levels of global power the Romans could never dream of, but when it comes to politics, culture, and society, the US couldn't be more different than Rome. The sole exceptions to this rule are our Founders' fetish for latin and Roman architecture, which I think is what causes the mistaken US=Rome comparisons.

>>79530190
Rome was a center of culture and art for he whole world

Russia is the center of cat torture videos and computer viruses

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>>79530282
New york's gdp is higher than russhits. In what way are you better?

>>79530311
>Russia has the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the world. It has the second largest fleet of ballistic missile submarines and is the only country apart from the United States with a modern strategic bomber force.[35][148] Russia's tank force is the largest in the world, its surface navy and air force are among the largest ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Military

>>79530317
>politics, culture, and society, the US couldn't be more different than Rome.

Come on. Our politics is copypasted from ghe roman playbook. Most if not all government arcitecture is Roman in design. We use Latin legal and medical terms. Our senate is...well, a senate. Read more.

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>>79530351
>tfw when the russhit subhuman thinks he's anything more than a violent ape

Is that all your country has to be proud of? Stockpiling weapons that can end the entire world if used? It's akin to a nigger bragging about his dick length. You shouldn't be proud of it.

>>79516486
No

It is an unfair comparison to both sides either way as the concept of a superpower was not possible in the time of Rome. But still, technically yes.

>>79530375
>Our politics is copypasted from ghe roman playbook.
No it isn't. The names are obviously lifted from the roman playbook, but the functions are not and never have been. Like I said, our Founders had a fetish for the idea of Rome, but in reality based the new government on British and French political ideology.

>Most if not all government arcitecture is Roman in design. We use Latin legal and medical terms. Our senate is...well, a senate. Read more.
Again, names and architecture. Not the way things actually work. And you've got the gall to tell me to read more, you retarded faggot.

>>79530351
The problem goes to geography. Russia has strategic depth, area to fall back on, but since the fall of the Soviet Union, has no real defence for the Russian heartland of Moscow. Russia is located on the great European plain, which since the creation of Russia, on average gets attacked on or from every 33 years. You lack open ocean access warm water ports for a truly effective and power projecting navy. And to keep your energy supplies going, you need to venture further and further out into Siberia, which in turn makes energy generation more expensive to both gather and transport, this coupled with the fact that the Russian government spends a fortune on transporting supplies to the far Eastern towns, costs the government a fortune and it will only go up.

>>79526955
Yes what will amerifats do to invaders

>>79530317
>The US has levels of global power the Romans could never dream of
Like getting kicked out of Vietnam by barefoot peasants? Get real. Rome did colonize dozens of different countries (and not easy ones) through hard power. America cannot do that. You could colonize Canada at best. Even Mexico would be problematic.

>>79524336
China, who else.
party's over for degenerate westerners

>>79516486
Romans when they were trying to spread 'democracy and freedom' to the Middle East had Jews as their enemies, which is the opposite of the US.

Modern day SJWs are carriers of the Roman aegis in modern times, they were Nazis of the past century who decided it would be a good idea to rebrand themselves as Jews, hence places like Silicon Valley

>>79532095
You're either retarded or baiting. The US can send its forces to any place on the planet within two days. It can destroy any nation on earth within 45 minutes. Rome could never dream of that kind of power.

Unfortunately yes. Hopefully we won't fall like Rome, but more like the father who doesn't love us.

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>>79530190
>why does no one consider russia as "the "Rome of 21st century""?
Some do.

>>79524336
>Babylon before Mesopotamia
>no Assyria
>no Persia before (Macedonia/)Greece
>no France before Britain
Shit list.

>who is next?
China, probably.

>>79524822
How come we don't moan about that all the time

>>79516486
Yes and Mexicans are the Germanic barbarians

These
>>79516917
>>79524222

>>79526500
Of which the Romans had none?
Just wait till we get to the Punic part.

>>79532095
Yet here we are, instantly communicating across the world in its universal language. N'est-ce pas?