should I vote to let the queers marry? how has it turned out

I'm voting no sick of such a small minority whinging and sick of their degenerate bull crap.

>>79115445
yes
>>79115488
kys you sad cunt

>>79115488
>degenerate bull crap.
Its honestly one of the more compelling arguments FOR gay marriage actually. Literally the opposite of degenerate behaviour and you want to stop it?

>>79117489
>>79117612
Gas yourselves

I don't care if people are gay I just wish it was thought of more as a disorder or problem.

I will be voting yes.

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>>79117628
They just like a bit of cheeky cock mate.

Chicks seem pretty into it so what's the problem if some fella feels like a go?

>>79115445
the fuck is even the point, pollies will make their own decision regardless

>>79115445
The survey is being challenged in the High Court, there's still a chance that the High Court will strike it down on the grounds that the Government doesn't have the power for this.

>>79117658
True.

>>79115445
hell no

>>79117658
>>79117729
and that, boys and girls, is how the gay marriage debate in Australia ended

>>79115445
It doesn't affect anything because people can still do whatever they want to, but it might be useful to let the fag brigades know they are not getting any free political power

>>79115445
I'm voting no. I don't particularly like gays but they've got SSM virtually everywhere else now and if it ends up being yes I wont be too peeved. Despite having legitimate reasons to vote "no" I mostly just want to see a political upset and have a laugh at how upset everyone else gets.

>>79118068
>Despite having legitimate reasons to vote "no"
Care to explain that to me please? Interested in what the arguments are

>>79118166
No him but I want not having gay couples in your country to be a human right

>>79118202
kek on what fucking basis?

How does it affect you at all?

It changed absolutely nothing. Gays will still protest over something no matter how miniscule.

No, you should look out for the well being of gays that are being nagged into marriage. They don't even know how good they have it.

>>79118166
Gays ultimately are a genetic dead end, they don't actually benefit the community they're a part of because they can't reproduce. I'm willing to tolerate them but in no way do I want to incentivise or promote their behaviour.

>>79118220
How does causal racism and sexism effect anyone? Still minorities and women complain about it and try to push censorship laws to stamp it out.
Homosexual couples make me physically ill. Their existence compromises my quality of life.

>>79118247
>incentivise gays
>less dudes fucking your womens
they are fucking based

>>79118247
Well they can raise kids actually. Look at Penny Wong's family

>>79118266
Why do you think about it at all?

Changed nothing. It's not that gays stop existing if you don't have gay marriage, and suddenly all men turn gay as soon as it's legal. Thank god the gay people I've known here aren't full blown faggots organizing huge parades around their faggotry.
The church still opposed it, the people that opposed it before it was legal oppose it now, etc. etc.
if you're a non degenerate country, this law changes nothing

>>79118266
Back to /pol/ you fucking retard.

>>79118279
Hmm because when I turn on the television this propaganda is spewed.
When I leave the house to go to uni and work I see posters promoting gay marriage.
I am constantly reminded that my opinion on gay couples could get me beaten to death in some places.

Gays are good.

= less people breeding
=more children adopted

>>79118304
Back to Twitter you liberal turd

>>79118312
>my opinion on gay couples could get me beaten to death in some places.
>opinion getting you beaten to death


I guess you now know how gays used to feel.

>>79118247
>Have no kids
>Get no benefits for kids
>Still pay taxes
>That go to benefit straight couples with kids

>>79118336
How does that help anything man. I asked him what his opinion was in good faith. He might be playing a bit loose with a bit of it but it doesn't really help to shout him down.

>>79118367
Gay couples can adopt already. Its actually a little fuzzy for me about what marriage would actually mean really

Vote yes and quit being a faggot. It has no impact on your life. This wouldn't be a problem if autistic judges recognized pension and heritage rights to gays instead of making a huge deal about muh marriage. I hope they also approve of adoption rights.

>>79118336
Gave me a chuckle haha
Giving a tiny group (homosexuals) right to express themselves without fear of repercussion by enforcing repercussions on a significantly larger group (those against gay marriage) ?
That's just a net loss + propagation of sexually transmitted disease.

>>79118304
Just no argument

>>79118279
I don't think things should be done just because they can. Same sex couples raising children is not the same as a mother and father and certainly isn't ideal. I'd say that a single mother is better for a child than two gay parents.

>>79118409
>I'd say that a single mother is better for a child than two gay parents.
Based on what? Why would having one mum be better than having 2 mums?

Looking back on it I'd say that its very intense only having 2 people in a family unit. Might have helped out a lot if there were more people

t. only child of a single mother

>>79118509
It's less socially isolating than having two gay parents for the kid. If you're the kid with two dads you're going to have a rough time growing up. You're much less likely to be harassed for having a single mother. Not just that but if you're a single parent the choice to remarry is there, it's a situation that's more easily fixed and is a much more natural environment for a child.

>>79118599
False equivalency straight off the bat. You used two dads to be evocative even though I mentioned single mums.
But if you say two mum's rather than one mum?
Two dad's rather than one dad?

How is it socially isolating in a community that is actually accepting? What you're saying is that the intolerance will make it hard so lets be intolerant.

Who knows man.

>2017
>his country still doesn't let homos get married

>>79118388
Still, they don't increase the amount of child benefits being paid because they don't create new kids.

>>79118398
What reprucussions?

>>79117814
Mmm. The sexuality and affairs of individuals' is different to the culture and political influence of groups that have a association or basis in sexuality.

>>79117767
Reddit

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Voting no. I'm not even religious, but gays just make me sick for some reason. Also, voting yes to shut them up isn't going to work, they'll come back with more demands. I guarantee it.

>>79118648
The point still stands. Regardless of whether it's two dads or two mums, that child will be isolated. A single parent is better for the child rather than two gay ones. If you're up for adoption in the first place it's because you're in a situation worse than a child of a single parent, because you've got none. Adopted children, even with an adoptive mother and father, face difficulties in not actually knowing who they are or where they're from, why would you worsen that by allowing a same sex couple to adopt them?

>How is it socially isolating in a community that is actually accepting?
It's not, in a community that is accepting. How you'll create a community that is entirely accepting I'd like to hear.

>What you're saying is that the intolerance will make it hard so lets be intolerant
It's not because it's hard to implement it's because I see it as immoral and unnatural.

>>79118398
You're allowed to express hatred for gays and we are allowed to express hatred for people who hate gays.

Gay migrant who can't vote here. Not sure what the civil partnership laws are like here but if it's equal rights like my old cunt then this vote doesn't really matter.

>>79118409
You don't know my mother obviously.

>>79118768
cute trap

>>79118599
Gay people usually don't live around bogans.

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>>79118852
Not really a fan of mine either mate, I don't envy adopted kids with gay parents though.
>>79118862
Must be in the water then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecr27Q_L9l8

>>79115445
It went shit here. Gays run everything now and get access to easy mode difficulty if they survive early years bullying. Vote no op, save yourself.

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>>79118993

How exactly is gay marriage any different from a civil partnership? It's not recognised by the Church so in essence it's not really a marriage

>>79119082
it literally isn't, the entire debate is just a way for both sides to be retarded at once

people in favour of it get to make a big deal out of how much we need to bring in this thing we've had for years, and people against it get to make a big deal out of how this thing we've had for years is going to lead to the end of the world

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>>79119152
Why are functional members of the community marginalised though? There are a couple of gay couples in my extended family and they're super functional members of society with jobs and whatnot.

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>>79115445
Don't be a cunt and do it. What have you got to loose?

>>79119197
I'm in favour, but only because it changes literally nothing

>>79115445
No it's a slippery slope to dog fucking

t. had to fuck a dog to get my driver's license

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>>79115445
Voting no, fuck the left

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>>79119303
Coherently explain to me what the left and the right in Australian politics means at the moments and point out 5 main policy differences please

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>>79119349
>Coherently explain to me what the left and the right in Australian politics means at the moments and point out 5 main policy differences please

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>>79119349
Hey man, can you like not be a retard and listen to your very smart countryman? Thanks.

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>>79119386
Interesting answer and all but I'd be surprised if you could actually answer the question.

Unfreezing the medicare rebate is the only thing I can think of that's a real issue with different policy being put forwards

>>79119349
Apart from blithely picking up political memes from the yanks without any attempt at relating it to the actual realities of our own society, Australian politics is more explicitly set up around the divide between organised labour and those political forces that would frustrate the power of organised labour. Our Labor Party is still based around the unions and the internal conversation in the union movement about issues is still the main determinant of Labor policy. So if I were to point out 5 main policy differences between the Government and the Opposition they would all be over industrial relations, e.g. penalties for black bans, right to site access for union representatives, the Building & Construction Commission, fairness tests for awards, minimum wage levels.

>>79119521
Good answer.

Now why do people like this>>79119303 who are putting forwards the image of the working class say """fuck the left""" like its America?

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>>79119349
No but I'll tell you something actually relevant to my statement. The reason I'm voting no besides it being a literal meme issue is because it will clearly show the nations stance on politically correct rubbish like this and convey that we, the majority of the citizens are sick and tired of being persecuted for not being overly PC. People who are against gay marriage for example are marginalised and demonised for expressing a conservative opinion and it was the same if you are a Trump or One Nation supporter. Gay marriage is not the equivalent of racial segregation or persecution, gay people will get along all the same in life with or without it and frankly if it's that big of issue then leave. If gay marriage succeeds it will only be another politically correct meme issue next. Just fucking stop.

>>79119566
See first sentence. The reason why we're having a fucking survey is because a significant number of the Libs and Nats are pro poofter marriage, because there's nothing particularly left wing about it, but they're frightened enough of the social conservatives that they'll let them play silly buggers delaying tactics with the process before they actually vote with Labor to put it into law.

>>79119603
Yeah I actually agree with that one a certain level. But I think perhaps on issues of civil rights it comes back to an actual issue.

But yeah I mean if you look at something like the American election where the media is very much selling a viewpoint and then when it comes to the vote and its shown that actually the majority of citizens hold a different view there's months of show's that are basically "Let me tell you why you're wrong"

It IS very annoying actually.

>>79119702
God Australian politics is a shitshow. Isn't John Howard still the last Aussie PM to serve a full term in office?

>>79119744
Yeah, went from longest serving PM to over decade of backstabbing

>>79115445
Melbourne uni lecturer made petition to get the chinese doctor in the ad de-regestered.
Thankfully we're not America-tier yet and the petition got deleted.
I heard it on the news on Triple Gay though so I assume they were trying to get people outraged that the petition got deleted or something
http://archive.is/T1rjk

>>79119797
To be fair that's not unprecedented. That's effectively what happened after Menzies too

if I vote yes will I never have to hear about this shit again?

>>79119838
Maybe?

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>>79119797
Its very disenfranchising I feel.

idk I just vote Wilke actually. Seems like a nice fella.

>>79119819
Which ad? But that's exactly the sort of thing that will really turn out badly.

Who's going to win? is it going to be a close vote?

>>79119866
Ad in OP
what will turn out badly?

>>79119838
You'll have some referendum on Transgender pronouns in a decade

>>79115445
vote no for the banter

>>79119879
Depends man. Could well be a silent majority situation.

Honestly? I'll vote yes but I'm still annoyed that I have to vote. What do we have a parliment for if when its something like this >>79119702 so an internal party power struggle means that we as a nation spends over 100 million for a plebisite?

>>79119901
That sort of SJW bullying and intimidation.

>>79119879
Could end up like Trump or Brexit and be surprise no vote majority

>>79119929
>That sort of SJW bullying and intimidation.
Seems to work in the US we just haven't reached the point quite yet

>>79119942
It's very possiible. Pro sodomy talking heads are certainly trying to remind people that it's a strong possibility so they're not tempted to abstain.

>>79119979
Doubt we want it here man.

See here >>79118910 being homophobic isn't a sin and shouldn't be. The fucking cheek to turn around to say that she shouldn't be able to be a doctor because she's not in favour of gay marriage? Fuck RIGHT off with that shit.
=

>>79119979
Quite possibly, you'd be forgiven for thinking almost everyone will vote yes but the ironic thing is all those people saying "nah don't do a vote all these people will say disgusting hurtful things about the fags and their feelings will get hurt", but all I've seen is the opposite, and I see it whenever I see a post from a friend on facebook contrary to the yes lobby with them in the comments frothing at the mouth in anger and calling them names.

>>79120023
meant for >>79119942

>>79119879
A lot of people didn't want it to be put to a vote because of the real fear it'll be voted against lmao

>>79118599
Don't tell me you're the sort of person who worries on what other people think about you.

>>79120063
I mean the reality is that its probably an inevitability man

>>79119838
No, there is no end to any of the "progressive" left's issues because they want power not equality.
They move on to extortion, censorship and making any dissenting views a "hate crime".
Same route they have gone with other groups who achieved legal equality decades ago like women and blacks.
"Progressives" are the mirror image type of cancer to the left that politicized Christianity has been to the right.

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>No, there is no end to any of the "progressive" left's issues because they want power not equality.
>They move on to extortion, censorship and making any dissenting views a "hate crime".
>Same route they have gone with other groups who achieved legal equality decades ago like women and blacks.
>"Progressives" are the mirror image type of cancer to the left that politicized Christianity has been to the right.

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>>79120197
Should he be beaten up for taking his pillow?

Should it be illegal for him to take his pillow?

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gay and will be voting no.

I am voting yes simply because this shouldnt be a religious thing.

they act like it isnt, but marriage and religion are intertwined, and i think we need to separate them in order to function without any dissent

>>79120263
kek. Go on then mate tell me a story

>>79120293
Once, there was an ugly barnacle. He was so ugly that everyone died. The end

>>79117680
you guys are so cute with your "ies" at the end of everything eh? :3

>>79120311
I meant "tell me the story of why you are gay but will vote no"

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>>79115445

hell yeah more traps on 4chan

>>79120346
there is no story, i just dont believe in marriage altogether, i dont even like it when straights do it

>>79120426
But surely you see some other gay people would like the option of being able to?

Might be nice to have the option one day yourself hey

>>79120197
The older left wing people weren't like this.

It went alright over here. Nobody seems to really care except for the muslims and bible belt Christians. Even most Christians that I've met are totally okay with it too so it's mostly the muslims, you don't want to be like a muslim by voting no, do you?

lol damn I had no idea so many Australians here were cousinfucking bogans

>>79119744
>majority of citizens
Hillary won the popular vote

>>79120448
i dont see myself doing that ťbh and i dont care if other poofs want to, im still voting no as im allowed to. why all of a sudden do we want to be like straight people..

>>79120523
ok cuck

>>79120541
How's having two headed siblings going for you, you fucking mutant?

>>79120523
You only just realised this?

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>>79120535
Name one country where there is direct democracy and the end amount of votes decides the election

>>79120558
I knew it about Americans but I thought Australians were only pretending to be retarded

>>79120570
Switzerland

>>79120592
Still uses a representative model with the cantons in place of electorates.

They do tend to hold a lot of referendums however so they are probably the closest thing to direct democracy in the world yeah

>>79120576
marriage is irrelevant because civil unions also
>le everyone who isn't the exact same as me is bad

>>79120653
Yeah if you're against the same rights for somebody because of which consenting adults they have sex with you deserve to have your fucking skull caved in

Would bully the absolute shit out of you irl

Why is this even a vote? just let people marry for crying out loud, its hardly a big deal.

>>79120686
Lmao ok cuck

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>lmao ok cuck

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Will be voting 'no', sorry faggots.

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>>79120744

>>79115445
>Voting at all

Real shame it's a plebiscite and not a referendum, so the government is wasting essentially $122 million on a poll they can in the end, just throw into the trash without a second thought.

Vote no Aussies, tell the politicians and PC leftist fags to fuck off
Will the expansion in influence of lebs/chinks/Muslims etc mean that gay marriage might not fly in 20 years time when they run the place or are they getting pozzed too?

>>79115445
It's possible for gay people to marry since 2001... haven't had any significant problems as far as i know. Not every one agrees with same sex marriage of course.

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>Vote no Aussies, tell the politicians and PC leftist fags to fuck off

Can the 122 million be spent on the original Labor FTTP NBN instead?

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tfw no bf

>>79120686
Marriage is inherently religious, civil unions are secular and available to all. Bully the absolute shit out of yourself because you're promoting infringement of rights in favour of rights of a smaller minority.

I don't care about marriage, I'm not going to vote on the government's shitty fucking survey that they will just ignore anyway, the notion possibly legally dismissed too. I don't mind if same-sex marriage is legal and practiced, or if it isn't, doesn't matter to me. Marriage is for retards in general. I am also bisexual.

My fleeting issue upon reading your reply is that you're a hypocrite and pretend that your political posturing and insults are anything other than pure selfishness. You bring false justification and lie to yourself of your desires. Rights are spooks, you're anti-egalitarian pretending to be egalitarian, egalitarianism is a spook, please kill yourself and get the fuck out of our thread. 4chan would be decent if NA was range banned.

>>79121216
Marriage has existed before religion you fucking retarded ape

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>>79121216
>Rights are spooks

>>79121216
>>79121235
Also stop pretending you know fuck all about stirner based on memes you've read, you can nullify literally any argument as almost anything can be called a "spook" and gays getting married doesn't infringe on your rights

I'd tell you to blow your fucking brains out but your government took your guns lmao

>>79121216
wrong

>>79121235
the problem of this is that marriage has become synonymous with religion. i want the two to be separate

>>79121216
just because you dont want to get married nobody else wants marriage?

it's more than a term though, it brings legitimacy to a partnership for many people

I agree the government is retarded and will ignore any criticism and I very much agree they will just disregard the ruling if there is a majority yes. they are absolutely deaf to the NBN being a fat crock of shit, so just think about what they will say to dismiss this once the vote is over.

>>79121333
I don't think religion should exist anyway.

>>79121333
Who gives a fuck about what you want, marriage has existed before religion and that's a fact. Fuck your cousinfucking mutant opinions, aren't they spooks though bro??

>>79121375
I kind of hope religion fades out eventually. theres always going to be religious people, but come on its been like thousands of years and we still believe in this shit. got nothing against religious people, but I have no plans on becoming religious

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>they vote to normalize mentally ills instead of investing in research to find a cure

The absolute state of the dying anglosphere.

>>79121333
>>79121394
>illiterate american

why am i not suprised?
did you even read the post?

> "the problem of this is that marriage has become synonymous with religion. i want the two to be separate"

as in

I DONT want religion to be associated with marriage

dumbfuck

>>79115445
I'm voting no

>>79121439
It's 4:30am here sorry can't read

The concept of marriage embodies the continuation of the human race and also pays homage to the 'family', which is the basic unit of society. By trying to redefine marriage which has traditionally been the celebratory union of a male and female to spend life together and continue the human race, we are essentially turning it into a worthless joke.

>>79121269
Anything CAN be a spook. It depends on the affect it has on you. It doesn't nullify shit. I wasn't talking about my "rights", I was talking about religious people, I'm not religious. I was speaking in the terms that you laid out. I don't care about marriage, I could vote yes or no, or not at all. I don't mind. I was briefly irritated that you, in your terms of reasoning, were hypocritical.

Also, you know nothing of our laws. At least I don't have to worry about getting my fucking brains blown out by sperg like you while I'm in a public place.

>>79121319
>>79121333
Read again, as I've said, I don't really care what happens with the marriage thing. Just this poster lying to themselves and being inconsistent within their own defined logic is irritating.

>>79121510
You are wrong though.

Marriage was originally about spreading material wealth by joining families and not religion.

>>79121510
Here's the logic I'm using: people don't deserve to be denied rights because they have sex with the wrong consenting adults

If you disagree you deserve to be choked to death

>>79119879
Not compulsory just a mail in response so we have all the older generations and those that feel passionately against it with a few gays voting yes.

I also have everyone I know voting No, and once we do get the public no they can stop bringing this shit up.

Tears all round hopefully.

>>79121542
Having an opinion on what rights are constitutional that doesn't confirm my views mean that you don't have a right to life

Well done mate. Top stuff

>>79121584
>his opinions align with those of demented geriatrics
>doesn't see a problem with this

>>79121533
You can't pretend that marriage isn't a central institution in abrahamic religions though. Old Testament God is obsessed enough with unprotected sex in the missionary position for the purposes of reproduction that he strikes Onan down dead for having too good a pullout game

>>79121598
Correct, not giving the same rights to someone for such a stupid reason means you deserve death, and that your death would be a net positive to the world

I hope you demonstrate in public and somebody decides to cave your skull in with a bat, everybody would be happier

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>>79121510
I never samefag. I'm the real deal, baby.

>>79121634
I pro gay marriage and in favour of true social equality, so yeah well done man. Truly me pointing out that your position is fucking retarded warrants death

Besides gay blokes can get married. They just have to find the right woman

Why do people pretend gay marriage has anything to do with equal rights though?

If straight people change their mind about being straight they aren't allowed to have marriage with someone of the same sex.

If a gay person changes their mind and decides to be straight they can get married.

How is that unequal?

Everyone has the same right to marry the opposite sex.

I say this as someone who is voting yes btw.

>>79121723
If being gay is so hard then why don't all gay people just CHOOSE to be straight? Wouldn't that make everything easier??? Whoa...

>>79121723
what did he mean by this?

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>>79119349

>>79122002
>image.jpg

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>>79122002

>>79121608
Just because your country fell to PC bullshit don't hate on those still holding out.

>>79122263
>giving the same rights to people who do nothing wrong
>PC bullshit

>>>/pol/
>>>/r/incels

>>79121745
I believe that some people are born gay.

I believe that not every gay person was born that way.

>>79122263
It's funny because in the 70's the people who oppose gay marriage would be the ones getting called politically correct.

>>79122263
fuck are you on about mate

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