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>Dad is being an islamic extremist at dinner again >He

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>Dad is being an islamic extremist at dinner again
>He called music "the sound of the devil" and said westerners are going to hell
>Also made a joke about Jews being cowards
>Had to pretend to laugh so he wouldn't be upset with me
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>>78729940
give me one (1) reason for why morocco shouldn't be used as nuclear weapon testing site
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>>78729940
so then, don't you think your religion which tells none Muslims go to hell, is cancerous? I equally hate Christianity, Islam, and Judaism by this reason.
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>>78729989
France used Algeria, not Morocco
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>>78729989
Finland exists.
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>>78729940
clean your room
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>>78730193
Delet this Finland seems nice
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>>78729940
Hello lamuy, nice thread.
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>>78729940
(You)
You happy now lamuy? piece of shit
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>>78730245
Fuck off reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>78729940
>religion of peace
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>>78729940
I know that feel, have some Reddit gold OP
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>>78729940
>religion of peace
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>>78730295
D E L E T E
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>>78730340
>>78730357
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>>78729940
wtfff i thought moroccans were more secular
>be me in 16 yr old
>have one moroccan in high school
>dad is an imam at the mosque
>all his son does is drink and smoke
?><>?<>?
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>>78729940
>haha lamuy iktf bro
>haha
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>>78730460
>>78730475
niggers lol
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>>78729940
>He called music "the sound of the devil
I don't understand this, there's plenty of islamic music, ancient and new.
Why
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Why are islamic countries so depressing?
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>>78730504
Maybe OP meant Western music
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>>78730091
Some muslims do go to hell but only for a set period of time. The same concept used to exist in Christianity but they decided to get rid of hell as a concept all together

Also some non muslims achieve heaven according to Islamic belief
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>>78729940
BEHEAD HIM FOR YOUR WESTERN MASTERS
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>>78730504
>>78730626
Islamism is not the same as Islamic tradition

In fact islamists oppose Islamic traditionalism as they think it to be decadent and tainted
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>>78729940
Iktf bro
>be me
>be living in Morocco
>everyone is an extremist
>have uncle who lives in europe
>whenever he and his kids visits he tells us stories about how kaffirs live without religion and are all going to hell
>everyone thinks the west is going to hell
>have to laugh at their jokes all day everyday so I don't get lynched
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>>78730751
Is Morocco pretty radical? Their govnerment is supposed to be moderate, even though the idea of moderate governments is only about power.
>>78730720
Did you study Islam in college or something? Pretty knowledgeable desu
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>>78729940
Send him to Sweden or Germany
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>>78729940
>Dad is being an islamic extremist at dinner again

ugh DAAAD, you're, like, embarrassing me in front of my kuffar boyfriend, gawd
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I lyk morocco
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>>78729940
tell your dad that he's a nobhead
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>>78730820
No but I do live in Germany
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>>78730091
what about Shinto? it's even worse in this regard, isn't it?
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>>78731007
wew
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I hate moccros.
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>>78729940
>dad tries to educate you about how entertainment is jewish propaganda and how the masons plan to devaluate family and honor

this country is third world
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>>78729940
how is life treating you in Morocco nowadays anon?
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>>78731085
Did someone say something?
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what is a lamuy

an alien in arabic?
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>>78730720
So ANY kind of music is bad?
What about general arts? Why ban fun things.
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>>78731152
America is a cultureless shitehole and definitely more of a non-country. Barely better than Morroco.
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>dad is being pro-Putin and Russia again
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>>78731249
Thank you for the (You) thats all I needed. Have a nice day
Also you aren't wrong
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Spanish morocco when?
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>>78729940
your father is right, you should listen to him more
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>>78731393
There are Spanish enclaves in Morocco
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>>78730245
typical saudicuck
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>>78731393
moroccan spain when?
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>>78731225
Yes any kind of music is considered bad because it induces an ecstatic state that makes the human prone to sinning and distracts him from serving God

They use the same arguments Islamic tradition uses on alcohol on music

Note that ISIS produces nasheeds and that they are surprisingly catchy
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>>78731117
>be me
>out on a stroll with the lads
>They're all normies but I'm an autist and they're the only ones willing to befriend me
>we get to the park and find a couple sitting on one of the park benches taking pics together
>my friends all agree they'll kick the dude's ass for bringing his girlfriend and doin haram stuff with her to "our" park
>I can't back down or else I'll look like a pussy so I go with them
>we beat the shit out of the poor kid while two dudes grab his girlfriend and pin her to the ground and you can imagine the rest
Fuck
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>>78731536
topkek
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test for a mitch.
>>78731470
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>>78731536
well shit dude, I'm moroccan aswell and I would probably be in your same situation if I lived there
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>>78729940
>He called music "the sound of the devil" and said westerners are going to hell
Wait, isn't Morocco geographically to the west of most of Europe?
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>>78731695
I don't know if you speak arabic or not but
Rah ghi kdoub dakchi ghi dahek osafi
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>>78729989
not enough deserts, try Algeria instead
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>>78731777
oh I undestand now, got my sister to translate it

well played
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>>78731536
does this unironically happen

the morrocans here tell me morroco is a beacon of civilization
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>>78731536
I hope this isn't true, but it probably is/was/will be.
I thought morocco wanted to be first world not fourth.
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>>78731117
He'll Immigrate to Italy soon
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>>78731961
morocco doesn't wanna be part of any world
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First country in the world to recognize the independence of the United States in 1783.
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>>78731536
Lol pussy, id rather be alone than turning into an asshole to please to my friends
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>>78731536
Holy shit thank God there's no morrocans in USA
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>>78729940
Don't come here pls
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>>78731995
it's not like life is any better here
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>>78732086
are u from sicily or the north ?
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Today a major TV channel did an interview in a muslim majority neighbourhood in Melilla, some guy appeared with a mob backing him up saying that they are fed up with christians making their lifes impossible, and that anyday he could go on and start running over people with a van. All of this while on spanish clay
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>>78730720
>In fact islamists oppose Islamic traditionalism as they think it to be decadent and tainted
sounds like protestantism.
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>>78732108
I'm from Lombardy so north
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>>78732123
>spanish clay
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>>78732086
Women can go topless on the beach without being stoned. That's a definite plus.
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>>78731536
WHAT THE FUCK I THOUGHT MAGRHRIBIS WERE MODERATE
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>>78729940
But he's right, westerners are subhumans and jews can't take a friendly banter joke

Grow up kiddo
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>>78732157
In Morocco if a women wears anything other than a bukini to the beach she'll get lynched
and unmarried women are not allowed unless they're with a brother or close relative
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>>78732157
but is it really? We allow women to be sluts all they want without any drawback

this kind of mindset is ruining western civilization
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>>78731651
unmitch.
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>>78732156
Since 1497, we've gotten USA'd pretty hard and I'm sure the 56% meme percentage has been exceeded a long time ago, what bothers me is that there is an gigantic obvious difference in the quality of life yet we are making their lifes impossibe somehow.
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>>78731930
Nice, was about to look up a translation to italian
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>>78731695
You have to go...back...my dude
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>>78731481
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>>78732280
But look what happens in Islamic countries. Young men become so angry from being sex-starved that they end up joining ISIS.
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>>78732356
How can I go back to a place that I've never been to
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http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/british-women-burkinis-portugal-swimming-pool-order-leave-culture-muslim-europe-holiday-a7870526.html
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>>78732412
I'd rather wait for marriage and have constant sex with my wife rather than fuck some random roastie once in a while
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>>78732552
Only a virgin or an autist would say that
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>>78732236
Its all fake my friend
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>>78732688
well idk maybe I'm too oldschool for you guys
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>>78732552
>marriage
>constant sex
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

prep yourself for "not now I have a headache" and "not tonight, I don't feel pretty, don't look at me"
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>>78732803
Nah, you're just stupid.
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>>78732439
Because you would feel at home in marrakesh between camels and mecca praying, I think. No?
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sahara occidental when?
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>>78732937
If she tried this in Morocco she'll get lynched and raped then thrown in the village dumpster
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>https://archive.whatisthisimnotgoodwithcomputers.com/int/search/text/Had%20to%20pretend%20to%20laugh%20so%20he%20wouldn%27t%20be%20upset%20with%20me/

This thread has too many (you)'s, buncha newfags.
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>>78732863
Men's need for sex is much much greater than women's because men are constantly making sperm that has to be disposed of.
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>>78733022
>men are constantly making sperm that has to be disposed of.
Not really true, it has more to do with testosterone than with production of sperm itself.
You aren't horny because you are producing sperm.
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>>78733022

Facu, saca la pava de la estufa que si hierve me quemas el mate.
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>>78733014
Killjoy
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>>78729940
Ikr. Day to lynch the kafirs when?
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>>78730934
but morocco is garbage
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>>78733203
100 replies is enough, if you want 500 replies post the exact same thing on /pol/ with a flashy OP.
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>>78733246
Malaysians love the BWC anon.
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>>78732863
Oh, and "I ran out of birth control pills, anon. I don't want to get preggers you'll have to wait until I pick up some more at the pharmacy."
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The Islamic religion needs to be wiped from the Earth.
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>>78732863
>marriage
>constant sex
That's only the first week after your wedding.
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>>78732863
Or complaining that it hurts.
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Women supposedly become more horny when they're ovulating but idk.
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>>78733144
All the same, the more sperm you have accumulated, the quicker you get an erection and climax. Orgasms are also stronger.
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>>78733719
>idk
It shows.
Women become horny because, when they are ovulating, they are producing more testosterone than in any other moment of their cycle. That's why women become more aggressive and have PMS.
Testosterone is the key.
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>>78731092
>tfw I was so mad at my uncle saying shit like that at the table I almost punched him
how can a person be this retarded... and he even graduated uni...
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When you see something sexually stimulating, you also produce a surge of testosterone. Teenagers are more horny than anyone else because of the massive hormonal surge they experience, which levels off by 20.
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>>78733874
Unused sperm is recicled by the body.
What you are referring is more a release of pent up sexual frustration.
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>>78729940
>Jews
>Cowards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ammunition_Hill
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>>78732412
The Islamic world is miserably repressive, there's no outlet for young people to vent their energy. You can't party, you can't have sex unless you're married, you can't go to concerts.
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>>78734120
newsflash
not all of m*na is saudi arabia and the OP is just a joke
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>>78734197
But really, what religion bans music? Or art?
Baffling.
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>>78733921
>>78733921
iktf mates
t. turk (greek)
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>>78734091
Pottery
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>>78734269
What religion also requires women to walk around in a garbage bag?
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>>78734269
music because once one of the main homies of the prophet told someone not to play some instrument (in the house of the prophet)

art because some dudes at the time believed that drawing stuff would make humans worship it. there are durkas out there who will tell their kids not to draw living things lest they start worshipping their kiddie drawings (or make others worship them)

the funny thing with regressiveness and idiocy in the islamic community is that you can always find something new to surprize people who were never exposed to it
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>>78734269
It doesnt ban religion, it says music distracts people from doing religion and should be used moderately, however some salafi cosplaying as rashidun just took the interpretation too far

>>78734462
Islam requires women to veil, not to wear burqa, burqa is actually a greek tradition, even some jews do it
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>>78732863

That's only for beta husbands that married an ex slag. I would just say if you're not sexually satisfying me, then I'll fucking find a woman that will even if I have to pay. So you can start packing your shit right now if you're not going to fuck.
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>>78734462
none actually. the ninja costume is a relatively new phenomenon in islam
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>>78734529
It doesn't ban music*
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Jordan is supposed to be "moderate" as well but their posters have said on /int/ that girls taking selfies would also end poorly.
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>>78734521
>drawing stuff would make humans worship it.
>Draw a tree
>This is now my new god!
Kek.
So much bullshit.
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>>78734579
You should put things in their context, byzantines were in their inconophilia period and it was common to worship pictures in mena
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>>78734529
Islam is very constricting in terms of human development, all revolves around god.
Islam needs an Illustration movement.
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>>78734558
>Jordan is supposed to be "moderate"
They are only considered moderate because they are Pro-USA and Israel tbqh.
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>>78734639
Through its commandments, Islam pushes people to excellence, from education to adulthood. That's how there was so much arab/persian scientist and that's where turks or Indonesians took their success
It doesnt mean art is forbidden, just look at arab litterature or turkish architecture
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>>78734579
meh, most if not all the retarded shit is from hadeeth (narrations from the prophet and his companions)

basically a 1400 year telephone-game where narrations were passed on orally for the first couple of centuries before they were written down. Such a foolproof method, right?

Actually there was so much cancerous bullshit that religious scholars of the 11th and 12th century had to sit down and sip through it to make just a little sense. Something like 100,000 hadeeth were discarded, and the ones that were deemed "true" were compiled in a series of books.

The catch is that the narrations in those books contain retarded shit too

Every.single.thing that ISIS has been doing can be found in those books. Burning alive, torture, rape, executing teenagers, etc.

The wahabbi money machine (Saudis mostly) are spreading a their doctrine, where denying any single of these barbaric narrations are considered heresy. And as the same narrations also give them the power to toss people out of the religion based on heresy, and while also calling for the death of the apostate, they basically take on the role as judge jury and executioner to anyone who disagrees. It's really good shit.
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>>78734715
Contemporary islamic thought frowns at people using logic. Art is forbidden in those circles if it doesn't involve something Islamic. All instruments except a specific drum is deemed forbidden. Stop sugarcoating this shit for the typical ignorant Westerner, we're backwards as fuck only topped by literal nigger warlords in Africa.
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>>78734715
Yes, Cordoba and Granada are also teatimony of how well cultured they were. What the fuck happened.
There hasn't been any cultural progress since then, and don't say because muh intervention, since the middle ages and the fall of the ottomans islam sucks culturally.

>>78734722
What woukd the Saudis gain from this? Aren't they like the most far appart from "proper" islam, with their elites way of life.
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>>78734715
Yep, there was a time when islamic art and science flourished. That was like 800 years ago though.
And today?
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>be lazy dudeweed secular muslim shitposter
>family is all muslim brotherhood on both sides
>mb are the jews of islam (insular, secretive, ambitious etc.)
>parents want to marry me off to a qt rich hijabi doctorfu
>she'll actually go along with it because muh ikhwan

This...is actually good
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>>78734803
The royal house of Su'ud =! The Wahabbi religious authority of KSA running their religious affairs

And the typical Saudi citizen is very conservative, though often hypocritical. They often travel to Jordan or other Gulf nations where they practice sodomy, sex with prostitutes, drink, etc.

The religious authorities and the wahabbi lobbies are spreading their ideology worldwide because it gives them political influence wherever it takes hold. Bosnia, Malaysia, Indonesia are all suffering a surge of wahabbi-salafi fundamentalism that the Saudis sponsor. European mosques are sponsored too if they help spread the ideology.

They want Wahabbism to become the mainstream Islamic "sect". They're sort of like the Jews of the Islamic world. They used to be persecuted and slaughtered (for their idiotic beliefs, I mean they killed people for eating with forks and spoons in the 17th century), but now they have power through petrol dollars and they're putting it to good use in order to ensure their own survival.

They claim to be Sunni in order to be part of the mainstream that they are infecting.

Much more can be said on this, Wahabbism/salafism is basically an ideological catastrophe for Islam and the Middle-East
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>>78734783
Ike, today's islam has nothing to do with medieval Islam, mainly because of wahhabis who meticulously tries to erase any part of the old Islam they consider degenerate. But even the prophet warned against extremists and ali had to deal with the same power thirsty and backward kharijis we are facing today
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>>78734947
On that we agree
>>78734889
>ikhwan
i feel kind of sorry for you having to live a double life like that, but the ikhwanjis I knew were actually pretty pro-democracy at least in speech, so maybe secularism isn't as troubling to them?
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>>78734803
Well the fall of baghdad was for something, every turk and sectarian destroyed the original model of caliphates, the Ottoman Empire was somehow successful but his vassals (Maghreb etc) were too weak against europeans who had now discovered america and were forced to isolate and defend instead of controlling mediteranean trade routes like they used to do.
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>>78734945
>>78734947
>>78735062
What a fucking pity.
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>>78735062
The Ottomans didn't value litterature or art. Not because they were durka Wahabbis, quite the contrary, the Sultans were often very liberal themselves. Religion was mostly a tool to control the masses.

The reason they didn't value art or litterature was due to the fact that the Ottoman Empire was nothing but a huge military machinery. Nothing mattered more than the military and the soldier, everything else came second. There were of course still prominent writers and artists but nothing compared to what it could've been if it had been institutionalized more.
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>it's a "Father is calling the FDP a Judenpartei and calling all Western Leaders zionist pigs again episode"
Getting kinda bored tobeaych
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>>78729940
Kill
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>>78735148
>The reason they didn't value art or litterature was due to the fact that the Ottoman Empire was nothing but a huge military machinery. Nothing mattered more than the military and the soldier, everything else came second.

Once the great era of expansion and conquest ended in the 17th century, the empire started to stagnate.
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>>78734945
>They want Wahabbism to become the mainstream Islamic "sect". They're sort of like the Jews of the Islamic world. They used to be persecuted and slaughtered (for their idiotic beliefs, I mean they killed people for eating with forks and spoons in the 17th century), but now they have power through petrol dollars and they're putting it to good use in order to ensure their own survival.

They're locked in a rivalry with Iran for domination, and both cunts promote extremist brands of Islam.
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>>78735509
More can be said on this. Among the reasons were
>inflation due to silver imports from the new world
>Yeni ceri hegemony
>corruption
>decentralization due to mentioned corruption
and, of course, incompetence within the Sublime Porte.

But yes, a lot of the income was made through conquest, the transition era from conqueror to a more classic empire was halted by mentioned obstacles but also Western powers seeking to disembowel the Empire.
>>78735531
True, the Wahabbis did not have nearly as much influence in Saudi society before the 79 coup, where the mentioned competition began.
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>>78735608
Almost all the current problems with Islamic extremism began with the Iranian Revolution, the Islamic world before that time was comparatively secular.
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>>78735531
What sect does Iran promote? What are its basic precepts?
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>>78735661
Shiism is a very extreme form of Islam, the guy who first introduced it to Iran killed over a million people.
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>>78735760
I though Shia were more moderate or peaceful, at least more than Sunni.
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>>78735608
Adding to that, for example, I am convinced that had the West opened its arms to the Empire in the late 17th century when diplomacy had become more common within the Sublime Porte, the Empire would've most likely modernized and kept up with the West throughout the 19th century. The Tanzimat came in too late in other words. That said, the decentralized state of the Empire in the 18th century and the yeni ceri (janissary) issue also blocked any attempts at modernizing the Empire.

The Tanzimat culminated with Abdulhamid II, and the putschists who ousted him were also very secular (and atheist) in nature who were educated in military academies that created people like Mustafa Kemal.

Perhaps the three pashas had no choice but to join the Germans in ww1, although history tells us they were eager to do so. Whether or not it was unavoidable, it remains without a doubt that joining the Central Powers served to end the Empire's existence.

Again, the Ottomans in the 18th and 19th century had attempted approaching the French and British in order to create economic ties, but they were met with resistance and enmity in both cases. Ottoman officials were still educated in France, and the Tanzimat owes a lot to French assistance on the matter, but in matters of alliance or economical ties they were discriminated openly. The Germans and Prussians however saw more of an opportunity in good ties with the Ottomans, which is also one of the reasons for the good ties leading up to WW1. In short, the Brits and French mostly wanted to "use" the Empire for its own gains, offering ridiculous propositions that would only harm the Ottoman economy, whereas the Germans were more fair in that regard. Turko-German relations has a very, very long history and is definitely an interesting read.
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>>78735806
Compare religious freedoms in Iran to any sunni country outside of the gulf
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>>78735646
That's a simplifcation, I'd go as far back as the founding of the Saudi Kingdom and how it came to existence and with the assistance of whom.
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Excellent pasta makes all of the retarded kuffar mad lmao
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>>78731225
>>78731520
fuck off retarded Wahabist

Music is NOT haram nor bad, music is only bad when it encourages bad behaviour like most of the american rap songs
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>>78732412
No. They just end up fucking shotas and goats.
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>>78729989
this tbqh
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>>78731536
>anon and his friends beat a young man and rape his girlfriend
>instead of there being a village rapis in marocco the whole village does the raping
What wonderful people. Please send more moroccans to turku.
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>>78732863
>islam
>the woman saying no
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
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>>78731945
ask them what they are doing in Greece then, komşu
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>>78735843
Unrelated but @the morticians in the tread, I visited Fes for a month earlier this summer and loved it but everyone was on edge during Ramadan.

I really enjoyed it and everyone was really kind and welcoming but also really tried to sell me hash for high prices basically everywhere. Story time now

>be me
>Asian looking amreeki exchange student in Fes
>living in the old city, beautiful with souqs and riads
>walking down the street minding my business with my Vietnamese friend
>kids look at us
>smirk and say "ni hao" every time we walk past
>reply and they ask for change
>I reply in semi-coherent Japanese
>everyone laughs

Lol the fucking magrebi kids would savage... they literally hustle you all the time.

Didn't know about the rape desu
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>>78735806
>I though Shia were more moderate or peaceful

You done goofed.
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>>78736720
I've read this story before
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The Iranian Revolution threw everyone for a loop; most people in the US State Department at the time assumed that if anything overthrew the Shah, it would be a Soviet-backed Marxist movement. Anyone who knew enough about Iran could have seen it coming, but such people were few.
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>>78736834
I used to shitpost in /MeNa/ but still

The grills and the guys are fucking weebs in your country, all excited to talk to me and tell me they are learning Japanese. Fuckin lol

How did you find this website?
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>>78731536
fake but nice bait, look at the butthurt replies
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>>78736892
Heard about it on the internet back in '09
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>>78729940
move out of home
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>tfw my black dad is being a black nationalist at dinner again
>I point out that he married a white woman
>I point out that he benefited from black scholarships
>I point out that his half-black children are far smarter than the black national average
>I point out that he lives in a white neighborhood
>I point out that the American obesity rate would drop by 20% and the murder rate would drop by 30% if all blacks just left
>He calls me an uncle tom

fuck's sake, when did we stop denying reality.
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A lot of the problems in the Middle East can be blamed on Perfidious Albion for enabling Arab nationalism and by extension Wahabism in WWI, which the Ottoman Empire had long suppressed.

As for the Mossadeq coup in 1953, that was partially related to Britain completely monopolizing Iran's oil wells and keeping all profits for themselves, Iranians were not even allowed to look at company books. On the other hand, the US had arranged a 50/50 share of oil profits with Saudi Arabia, an arrangement that has worked out to this day. The US State Department primarily wanted to restore the Shah to power for fear of Iran becoming a Soviet satellite, Britain however wanted to protect their (greedy) oil monopoly.
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>>78737389
Of course it didn't get better afterwards, the Shah spent oil profits and foreign aid bucks on palaces and expensive wine while 90% of Iranians continued to live in quasi-medieval poverty. By the 70s, he was demanding more and more US weaponry in case Moscow tried anything funny (during that time, we operated radar stations in Iran right near the Soviet border). Not everyone in Washington liked the idea, in particular selling Iran F-14 fighters might compromise sensitive technologies.

Bizarrely, a State Department report from the summer of 1978 said that the Shah's hold on power was "extremely stable" for at least the next decade.
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>>78730513

The religion peaked with its golden age too early in time for it to also learn about moderation and religion as part of life rather than all of life and law, unlike others.
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Tbqh Islam has been on a steady decline since Genghis kahn sacked bagdad
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>>78732123
LOL just kill the fuckers
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