I'm scared for my cunt, /int/ Communism, hating white people,

>>78613757
wh*Te subhuman

you dont have communism, you have retarded liberism and racism, both idiotic and hopefully will lead to the downfall of your non nation

communism would be the redemption of the us

>>78613824
no shit we dont have communism, its literally illegal here. im saying that being a commie is socially acceptable despite that

im scared for americas future

>>78613757
Why do people in america rape their freedom rights to death all of a sudden??
I could understand people using it to shoot intruders or normal free speech, art and such things but now it just seems like it's being used for pointless violence, to sue everything that lives and walks, degeneracy and to complain about meaningless or unchangable stuff.

Is it because the world is bored?

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>>78613757
America was a shitty identity to begin with. Founded on idealistic enlightenment free masons who thought the experiment had failed by the end of their lives, driven mad by consumerism and the pursuit of profit. Espouses freedom and liberty while it genocided a whole people, says it loves peace when it's only been at peace for 17 years of it's existence. Some brown people moving in doesn't make this already worthless country and identity worth anymore. It was worth spit before and it's worth spit now.

Openly bashing the president should be acceptable though

Or should we live in a commie hell hole where you get sent to a gulag for insulting emperor Trump?

>>78613757
>Braindead amerishart sees a few hipsters with Ché shirts in Starbucks™ playing with their Iphone™
>Thinks his country is becoming communist
How fucking retarded are you? Your disgusting country is the epitome of capitalism and imperialism

>>78614130
I don't even like Trump, but you are confusing openly bashing with criticizing. Screaming and hurting everyone who supports him and justifying it because they are 'fascist' is retarded

I just want a national identity I can be proud of.
I just want to go outside, wear something like a MAGA hat without getting attacked by antifa, and smile at my neighbors and say "I'm proud to be an American!" without anyone else trying to chime in and tell me why I shouldn't. I don't want to go abroad, and tell people I'm American without them getting the impression that I'm stupid or have someone want to bomb me for my nation's actions.

Is this so much to ask? Other countries have this. America doesn't.

>>78614398
And you're confusing me shit talking trump and actual violence against other people. I do not agree with physical violence and threats against others because they disagree with you at all. But I should be able to freely shit talk Trump how ever much I want. And you should be able to freely wear whatever MAGA shit you want without fear of being attacked.

>>78613757
>openly bashing the president is socially acceptable now.
It always was
>Not only that, stupid people who think the constitution is worth more than the whole country's identity have guns and military training while calling themselves oath keepers.
Oath Keepers? The Constitution and guns have always been an important part of American identity.

>>78614697
>civic nationalist cucks that are braindead is okay if they call themselves constitutional
they attack people like everyone else.

>>78614398
>Doesn't like Trump
>wants to wear a MAGA head
lol

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>>78613757
>Communism
Not a problem you should worry about mate. The lack thereof, on the other hand is probably the thing that's most disgusting about your cunt.

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Sad

>>78614899
t. mehmet

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>>78613824
>>78613854
>>78614158
>>78614899
Good lads.

>>78614847
you missed the point hombre
theres no comradery

>>78614766
>they attack people like everyone else.
I'm saying what they support has always been a part of American society unlike say Antifa. And don't confuse second amendment people with neo-nazis. It's like calling a normal Democrat a Communist when they aren't even a socialist.

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>Openly degrading your political leaders is a bad thing

>>78614989
To be fair how can you expect camaraderie with Trump? He's probably the most controversial and least liked president we will have. And I say that was someone who voted for him

>>78615118
Who is that supposed to be a caricature of? Is it some Australian pm who I've not heard of, or like FDR or something?

>>78613757
>am*Rican subhuman problems

>>78614989
>hombre
Fucking kill yourself, white cunt.

>>78613757
Welp you also have cars of free speech now. People can't make ends meet, people work hard and get paid shit, people are unemployed or part timers, students graduate with massive denbt, people get angry, people have guns, people sometimes tend to look for scapegoats. But you can never know beforehand what will go down. Civil war? Plausible?

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>>78613757
>bashing the president is socially acceptable now
How rude... People were so much friendlier in earlier times.

>>78614089
Will this rich, self-hating New England Bernout fuck off already.

>>78615176
>He's probably the most controversial and least liked president we will have

According to whom? CNN?

>>78616247
the jews killed jfk

>>78613757
Hating white people is edgy bullshit, but having a political environment in which it's acceptable to criticize the political and economic institutions that rule you is a very good thong

>>78616333
>>78616333
Gallup polls

Since 1973 he's had the lowest approval rating of any president, and with the 5th highest disapproval rating so far

>>78616501
Can't you see it's rigged?! Fool, is what you are. Cucked into believing whatever lies (semen) that big media pours into your gaping face every time you turn on the tv!!

>>78616576
Wait, weren't those the same polls that gave Hillary a 95% chance of winning?

>>78616652
to >>78616576

>>78616656
I think that was the Huffington Post

You know what's super funny, is that's largely white people doing all of this shit to themselves

What's up with that ?

A hundred years ago cartoonists drew politicians including presidents literally eating shit in newspapers.

The worst thing about Conservatives is this faux-notion of nostalgia. The golden age you are presumably 'missing' has never existed.

>>78616290
Will this autist who's paranoid of someone who probably doesn't exist just fuck off and stop stalking me already?

>>78616656
>>78616576
The media, they're having the chimpout to end all chimpouts not so much because of Trump, but because the hard left SJWs had unlimited, total control from 2009 to 16 and now that that's been taken away from them...it's like a child when you take his toy away.

>>78616797
this.

>>78616762
Marxist brainwashing has purposely targeted white people to fill us with guilt to the point we hate our own race enough to actively fight to destroy it

>>78616840
>the hard left SJWs had unlimited, total control from 2009 to 16
Lol.

>>78616840
>total control from 2009 to 16

Do you really believe this?

>>78613757
>openly bashing the president is socially acceptable now.
How old are you?
Were you not around to see people and media shitting on Bush 24/7?

>>78616797
>The worst thing about Conservatives is this faux-notion of nostalgia. The golden age you are presumably 'missing' has never existed

Nobody is saying it did.

>>78616797
some drawings don't compare to real people doing real things to the point where the drawings don't exaggerate it well enough
your perspective is just from online exclusively though i dont blame you for thinking that
>>78616912
22. i remember when people were shitting on bush all the time too. he and the clintons pretty much set this trend up

>>78614398
You have to be proud of yourself, making others achievement you own is nothing other than laziness. The same goes for white supremacist or any other kinds.

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>>78616840

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>Communism
>anything new
We had Communist aligned labor unions having battles with cops back in the 30s. What we have today doesn't even come close to comparing to some of the problems back then.

Imagine blaming a bunch of powerless prostesters with signs for the woes of your nation while your political faction has been controlling all three branches of government.

I can't even.

Congrats you feel for some cheap diversion tactics of thos in power.

>>78616907
I don't remember George Bush putting gay pride colors on the White House, do you? I also don't remember so many vicious extreme feminists back then or weekly race riots when he was president.

>>78617036
>We had Communist aligned labor unions having battles with cops back in the 30s
Yeah, back then they fought for improved working conditions. Today they fight for the right to surgically mutilate your penis.

>>78617036
People dressed better back than.

>>78617082
So those things equal unlimited control

It was worse in the 19th century. Newspaper cartoons would show politicians eating shit, being buttfucked, hanged from a tree, etc. Presidents received death threats in the mail. You'd go to jail for that today.

>>78617082
I've always been of the opinion that a country takes on its leader's personality.

Why do people want a race war when it's literally whites enabling all of this shit to happen

Imagine having such a pampered and comfortable life that you seriously think the president putting up some colorful lights presents an important national issue.

>>78617300
That's a very stupid belief. If anything the causation is the other way around. And even that's too simplistic.

>>78617356
>Imagine having such a pampered and comfortable life that you seriously think the president putting up some colorful lights presents an important national issue.

If they put up a swastika symbol on the Bundestag, that would just be some silly colorful lights and nobody would have an issue with it, right?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WHO IS THE "NAZI" NOW, AMIS???!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHOULDN'T HAVE FOUGHT US!

THE USA DESERVES THIS DYSTOPIA!
HAVE A TASTE OF THE POISON, WHICH WAS MADE ALL BY YOURSELF JUST TO DESTROY THE GERMAN PEOPLE!
EMBRACE COLLECTIVE GUILT, FORCED SHAME AND ETHNOMASOCHISM!!! ENJOY IT!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>78617412
Do you think gay rights occupies a similar role in your country's modern history that nazism does for Germany's?

>>78617441
kek

>>78617412
So the swastika is the same as the faggot flag huh

>>78617412
If you think that the gay rights movement plans to hunt down all straight people with the goal of committing mass murder and genocide then it's time to take that risperidone, bro.

american political discourse is so retarded. Rediculous levels of polarization, strawhattery and ignorance.

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>>78616840
>the hard left SJWs had unlimited, total control from 2009 to 16

>>78617503
You didn't know that the SA were all gay and they were led by a guy Ernest Rohm who loved BDSM and burly men.

Gay activists like ACT UP, these guys are basically modern day equivalents of the SA used by the American left.

>>78617612
>You didn't know that the SA were all gay
Shut up an go help your countrymen tearing down monuments of your national heroes.
The SA was not gay.

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I was on /int/ the day this happened. It wasn't good. There was nothing but 50 threads ridiculing America.

This thread taught me that giving gay couples some tax breaks and hospital visit rights will lead to the extermination of all straight Americans.

>>78617412
>If they put up a swastika symbol on the Bundestag
Even better, an Islamic crescent. :^)

>>78617612
I can't tell if this is sarcastic or an insane person,
>>78617697
No, but Röhm was though.

>>78617706
>>78617466
ITT: We learn that Sweden Yes and Germany Yes aren't memes, they're real things

>>78617799
But you're not even replying to the actual arguments. Why is the gay flag and the Nazi flag somehow equivalent?

>>78617799
t. yrone Juarez

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>>78617799
I think this thread speaks more about the US than it does any other nation.

>>78617503
I think the Germ missed the point. He says a couple of colorful lights on a building can't possibly harm anything, so I proffered him the example of what if a public building in Germany had a swastika symbol put up on it. Surely it's just colorful lights, right? Then he turned around and admitted it actually wasn't.

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Just a reminder that:
A. The average person doesn't actually care about human rights or freedom. They might care about being nice and reasonable, and being able to live a good life, and those might manifest in caring about human rights and freedom, but these concepts are not guaranteed to have massive support.
B. Most people can absolutely be chanced and molded into something different, and even the most docile people can be pushed into committing human rights violations.
C. Also the average person probably doesn't even have the brain power, or more likely knowledge and time to navigate our media and form informed and nuanced opinions. Everyone falls for some brand of bias, I certainly do.
D. Even if literacy rates are high on the West, high comprehension of what is being read and actual reading is probably not as much.
E. The average person doesn't care about facts when forming their opinions. They make nearly all decisions based on feelings and then only bring in facts to justify their believes afterwards. I think everyone does this at least a little though, I certainly do.
F. The good don't always win, and the best ideas don't always rise to the top. If you think propaganda has a lot of power, chances are it still has even more power than you think it does.
G. There are no easy solutions to the problems that the West has.
H. Totalitarianism can creep its head anywhere.

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>it's a mainstream media culturally appropriating /tv/ memes episode
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450621/steve-bannon-ousted-politics-gossip-reality-tv

>>78617783
>No, but Röhm was though.
So what? He tried to hide it and in the end he was killed anyway.

>>78617826
Because there once was a gay Nazis, thus all gays just as bad as Nazis.

That's literally how 6 year olds argue.

>>78617894
>Most people can absolutely be chanced and molded into something different, and even the most docile people can be pushed into committing human rights violations
Sadly, I agree. Most people are cattle with minimal critical thinking skills.

>>78617886
Good point

>>78617961
>Sadly, I agree. Most people are cattle with minimal critical thinking skills.

13 year old who just finished fight club

>>78617914
virtue signalling is what 10 year olds do

>>78617886
An embarrassingly crude comparison is not an actual argument, sorry.

>>78613757
>>78613757
Jes Crist,would you live in Ukraine.

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Good, very good.

>>78618013
I agree with this assessment of OP and his thread.

>>78617705
>>78617612
I thought of something more along the lines of deconstructivism, which is a form of Marxist class warfare where you break down a culture by making a mockery of its symbols. This can take on many forms like a plastic crucifix in a jar of urine or putting gay pride colors on the White House.

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Soviet subversion was successfully after all it seems

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>>78617879
>lose argument
>spam Reddit memes
:^)

>>78618178
Replacing a Robert E. Lee statue with a statue of a pregnant black woman. That's also deconstructivism at work.

>>78618215
>emoticons
underage alright.

>>78618178
This wouldn't by chance be some form of cultural marxism, would it?

Returning to the original argument, actually the gay marriage push is mostly the work of these politically aligned professional activist groups like ACT UP, which are funded by George Soros. I don't even think the average gay dude is even the one pushing for this.

All politicians that allowed the erection of statues honoring the confederacy should be removed from office.

As a civil servant of any kind from the policeman to the public school teacher you are required to swear an oath to the American Constitution. Honoring the traitors to it violates this oath in the most extreme way.

>>78618321
And Obama, he gave power to and enabled all of these groups. Black militants, feminist militants, gay militants. All of them. And now that they don't have a hotline to the White House anymore, they're mad. Very, very mad.

>>78618321
I'm pretty sure most gay people support having spousal hospital visitor rights.

>>78618391
I'll give you a little tip: Romanticization of the South and the Lost Cause myth originated mostly in the early 20th century by writers like Thomas Dixon who were part of the generation that came up after the Civil War and didn't remember it themselves (Dixon was an infant when Lee surrendered at Appomattox).

During the 30 years after the war, when it was still fresh in memory, there was no such romanticization of the Southern cause, most Americans just saw them as slaveowners and traitors to the government. By the time Thomas Dixon was writing, the war generation were getting old and starting to die off and their kids, who didn't actually live through it, had this candy-coated idea of the Southern cause.

>>78613757
In the Netherlands the alt right was defeated according to the media.. as 2/3th of the country voted.... right wing.

>>78618413
>Obama enabled black militants, feminist militants, gay militants
Jesus christ. Seriously?

>>78618476
Our 4 biggest parties are all right wing. It's going perfectly fine here.

But for some reason they still cant come to an agreement on how to form a government.

>>78618468
Literally my first post in this thread

>The worst thing about Conservatives is this faux-notion of nostalgia. The golden age you are presumably 'missing' has never existed.

>>78618413
Why do you call them militants?

>>78618505
You hadn't heard of Van Jones? You hadn't heard of the New Black Panthers intimidating voters? You hadn't heard how Obama sat in a church for 20 years listening to a minister rage against white people every Sunday? Oh no of course not, your problem glasses feminist professor didn't tell you that while you were having Hug A Refugee Day on campus.

Imagine taking an oath to protect your nation and its republlican and constitutional order and then turning around erecting monuments to those people that wanted to destroy these things.

I'm surprised there hasn't been a huge precedence concerning this matter.

>>78618100
I have been to Kiev and Mariupol, I prefer both to many parts of the USA. Having said that, I prefer other parts of the USA to anywhere except Eastern Canada.

>>78618655
It's not a matter of whether those statues should or shouldn't be there, but it should be for the local residents of those towns to decide on, not bused-in Soros anarchist mobs.

>>78618655
History has more than one side.

>>78618617
He probably wouldn't have heard of those things in Sweden in general because the media in Europe are all far left and ball polish any Democrat president we have.

>>78618708
Breaking an oath of office is a federal crime. The local politicians allowing these monuments should rot in a prison cell. Why is American law enforcement so weak when it comes to enforcing its laws in order to protect its republlican order?

>>78618205
Whose statue is that?

>>78618781
>Americans think democrats are left wing
Wasn't that just a meme?

>>78618807
>>78618655
Andrew Johnson issued pardons for ex-Confederate leaders restoring their citizenship and absolving them of treason charges if they took the oath of loyalty to the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardons_for_ex-Confederates

Originally, there were a huge number of people who didn't qualify for pardons, but Johnson unconditionally pardoned everyone on Christmas Day, 1868. Some Confederates never accepted the restoration of their US citizenship, for example Jefferson Davis did not and he thus died a man without a country.

>>78618952
The Democrats are literal communists

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>>78613757
Hope I wil see the fall of the USA during my lifetime.

Death to America!

>>78618952
Are you going to tell me the media over there _didn't_ have Obama's balls in their mouth every day from 2008 onward? Are you going to tell me they don't think Trump is the Antichrist?

>>78618996
Some might be.

>>78619048
this

AL MAWT LI AMERIKA

>>78613757
We'll get through it. This shit's prwtty normal actually. I mean hell even Euro bris have had this type of shit happen to them. An example is Italy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Years_of_Lead_(Italy)

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>>78618972
They just removed this plaque from the Hudson Bay Company store in Montréal a few days ago. In English it says:
>"In memory of Jefferson Davis, President of the CSA, who stayed, in 1867, at the home of John Lovell, at this location." (Plaque erected in 1957 by the daughters of the Confederacy)

>>78613757
>gommunism
ftfy

>>78618972
>Some Confederates never accepted the restoration of their US citizenship

A bunch even left the country entirely and moved to Europe or Latin America.

>>78618941
Child soldiers that fought for the Confederacy

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>>78619260
Fitting then that it was children who tore it down

>>78619260
They were _strapped_ for manpower by 1864, even boys and old men were being conscripted.

>>78619377
>The Confederacy was visibly failing, in manpower, in rations, in equipment. A Union man in Fort Hell, peering through the wintry air, saw a stooped and ragged Confederate detail marching to relieve the picket line and wrote that "I could not but help compare them with so many women with cloaks, shawls, double-bustles, and hoops as they had thrown over their shoulders blankets and tents which flapped in the wind. An officer of the day on the VI Corps recorded that 40 deserters had come into his lines in 48 hours, and that was about average. "If we stay here, the Johnnies will all come over before the 4th of July. To another Union officer, the "starved and wan appearance" of the deserters proved that the Confederacy was on its last legs.

>>78613824
>racism is idiotic
>your country has barely any foreigners

be thankful that your country hasn't been invaded yet you ungrateful faggot

>>78613757
>openly bashing a president is a bad thing
I thought you were in a free country...

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>>78613757
Just be the American that you'd like everyone else to be. The spirit of the American experiment is something that we all have to carry inside of ourselves on our own. Its like the memory of a dead friend who will always be watching over you. So don't be sad, your ideal America exists, it's just inside you, and its your job to make some small part of it a reality and show the rest of us. There's always time to work towards something better. I'm looking forward to seeing your America, anon, and I hope you'll enjoy mine as well.

>>78613757
>stupid people who think the constitution is worth more than the whole country's identity
kill yourself commie

>>78617705
>There was nothing but 50 threads ridiculing America

>being upset that an anymous person talks shit about your country on an anime imageboard
>not even ridiculing you, but your country
cry me a river faggot

Wait, why is this /pol/ garbage thread been bumped from page 10?

>>78623088
What's /pol/ about this thread?

>>78623088
Actually I'd like it if posting Sad Frog or Feel Guy as the OP pic of a thread resulted in an auto ban.