Swedes were both vikings and a great power. All other countries

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umm think agen sweedy

Because nobody have any kind of interest in that frozen shithole

>>78608032
>swedes
>v*kings

>>78608110
>>78608147
So are you saying that vikings are literally niggers

>>78608094
>Cotrolled some irrelevant frozen islands and mountains
>Great power
>>78608148
Yes. We actually fought against eastern european tribes instead of just discovering shitty islands like you did

>>78608255
I prefer 'snow niggers', it makes me feel like a special snow flake.

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>>78608148
We were literally all the way down in Baghdad and Afghanistan while you simply raided some neighboring monks lmao. Also we've always been the strongest nation of the Nordic countries.

>>78608255
Yes.

Also, they're creators of Kievian Rus

>>78608357

>Vikings
>SW Finland

Nice autism fiction

>>78608345

>strongest Nation

In wich way?

>>78608290
settling and surviving on frozen islands is no easy feat. But you also seem to ignore three things:
1) The Norwegian Realm controlled land in was is now modern day Sweden (for example Gothenburg and upwards)
2) The british isles were not unpopulated when we arrived
3) We were and always have been better sailors than you

>>78608357
>muh middle east
harald hardråde made shitaly and northern africa his bitch
the norwegian crusade is unironically the most successful crusade in history as well

>>78608462
And how does any of these things prove that you were a great power?

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>>78608398
Even the Finnish version shows the same

>>78608603
>harald hardråde made shitaly and northern africa his bitch
It was swedes that made up the bulk of his army

>>78608616
The Great Norwegian Empire will not be denied.

>>78608617

>Intressialueet

That means the Vikings, generally from the island of Gotland which had favorable relations with Finnish tribes came there to trade.

The idea of Viking colonies comparable to Aldjuborg etc in Finland is science fiction.

>>78608603
>>78608677
You know that Scandinavians were basicaly the same people back then? Spoke the same language and everything. Arguing about who raided what is pointless.

>>78608032
>were

Rurik was a fennoswede.

>>78608975
Thanks, added to my collection

>>78608032
Swedes weren't vikings and being proud of swedish """"empire"""" is being cucked by bloodthirsty tyrants and nobility that bled the peasantry dry in retarded wars.

>>78608032
The direct descendants of the Vikings are Danish

>>78608939
>>78608975

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jomsvikings

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Rurik was a swede

And then got beaten up by Russians
Great northern war was a stupid war.

>>78608975
The difference is that Vikings looted foreign lands. Niggers loot from their own neighbourhood stores.

>>78609206
Rurik was N1c Finnish.

>>78608357
>we
mfw the only varangian to ever matter was harald "the bulgar-burner" sigurdsson. and no, denmark was the head honcho for a while (see: canute the great, sweyn forkbeard, kalmar union)

>>78609259

Uralic men have been migrating to Sweden to have intercourse with Germanic women for thousands of years. N1c can be just as Swedish as any other haplogroup because it went through Germanic vaginas.

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nice "empire" you had there

>>78609259
>Rurik was N1c Finnish.

Cool Finnish name.

Helgi, Helga, Ingwar, Ragnheiðr, Olav, Astrid, Sveneld, Ásmundr cool Finnish names too.

>>78609460

See >>78609314

Uralic sperm goes in the Swedish vagina. Out comes a new and improved Swede.

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>>78609314
>>78609501
this

Finns are subhumans and should not even be in this thread, they have no history and deserve to live in Greenland with their Eskimo relatives.

>>78610144

Eskimos have different haplogroups except the ones from Chukotka.

>>78610226
Yeah I know, it was an insult, you are Chinese

>>78609224
Shit skins will never comprehend the skill behind successfully launching those raids. They think that boarding a charter plane and stealing pocket change from the people that gave them asylum is the same as masterfully building a wooden motherfucking boat far ahead of its time, navigating across rough seas with viking age navigation and then having the logistics mind to keep your men fed and supplied even during the winter months in a foreign land, when most armies of the times were inactive during winter because it's really that hard to fight wars during winter.

>>78610363

Mongolian.
Chinese are a weak race from the southside of the Yangtze river.

>>78610515
No, I know a Mongolian guy and he looks nothing like Finns, all Chinese people look exactly like the Finnish phenotype.

>>78610144
Why don't you go and listen to Sabaton and Carolus Cuck while wanking your micrepeen to BBC's taking your women

>>78610684
>Sabaton
I know a very good track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65mswPJN80

>>78609259
N1c isn't exclusive to Finland. Sweden isn't only populated by Germanic people, you know?

>>78610684
Why are swedes the only ones going "muh empire" You never see danes doing that

>>78611314
Because Danes were always crushed and submitted to the Swede.

>>78611441
Denmark has never been a part of Sweden, yet Sweden has been a part of Denmark. Checkmate Swedocentrists

>>78611441
Well they have oversea colonies and Sweden got cucked by Russia. So Danes kinda won.

>>78611522
>Sweden got cucked by Russia.
I don't see Finland as Sweden, so no. Losing a colony doesn't mean much.

>>78611609
Swedish empire should've been the whole area controlling the baltic sea. And you lost it.
It's not an empire if it's just present day Sweden

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>>78611688
I'm not OP and I couldn't care less of those shitholes.

>>78611804
Then why are some swedes
>muh empire
>lol i don't care about those areas

>>78611609
Åland

>>78608617
theres literally 0 viking archeological findings in that area lol. vikings never set foot on finnic lands because they fear the shaman. only afters converting to christianity swedes could muster the courage to come here

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>>78611609
>losing half of the country doesn't mean much

>>78611971
More like there wasn't any point of settling. They would rather trade.
Just look at the map. There wasn't point making settlements here. In Ladoga and nevariver and rivers to Russia and Byzantium

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>>78612027
If I had it I'd give it away just to segregate the mongoloids.

>>78612145
Then it's not much of a empire. Finnish military is much larger. How did it work out?

>>78612109
>More like there wasn't any point of settling.
Wrong!

>Among the Finns' western neighbours, the Norse of Scandinavia, it was a common belief that the Finns were wizards. In the Norse sagas, inclusion of a Finnish element almost always signifies a supernatural aspect to the story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_paganism#Shamanism

>>78612279
Oh but they settled on other Finnic lands in Ladoga area and Estonia?
Seems like no shamans and wizards there even if same people.

>>78612409

They were welcomed there by the Novgorod Slavs.

>>78612491
There weren't any slavs in Estonia.
And Saaremaa had a viking settlement and Saaremaa is closer to Sweden than Finland.
Estonia was Christianized later than Finland. And there wasnt slavs in Ladoga area back in the viking time.

>>78612491
Novgorod was like 300 years after the viking age

>>78611609
dds bög

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>>78612893
t. Finnish diaspora

>WE WUZ VIKANGZ N SHIEET

>>78612664

Your entire understanding of the subject is pretty much Viking WEWUZ. You must be a Finland-Swede.

Vikings didn't settle Saaremaa.

Ladoga had Slavic influence from the 7th century onwards. The lake Ilmajärvi Slavs supplied their Viking friends with everything they needed including military assistance.

>>78612109
Shut up Fennosw*de dog

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_Empire

Think again, Håkan.
Add to the fact that Sweden has been under Danish rule, but Denmark has NEVER been under Swedish rule.

>>78612977
Inget fel med att älska östsvenskar

>>78613017
Ei vaan viikininkejä ei kiinnostanu juurikaan Suomen alue, koska Laatokalta pääsi bysantille. Suomen alue oli vaan pelkkää metsää josta sai turkiksia paikallisislta.

Jos viikingit oli niin peloissaan suomalaisa shamaaneja, miksei ne olleet peloissaan virolaisia ja karjalaisia? Laatokan alueellahan ne karjalaiset
Virolaiset ja liiviläiset baltian rannoilla.

>>78613196
>>78613017
Ja täähän pitäs olla we wuz karjalaisia ja virolaisia eikä hurreja. Ku ruotsalaiset ei tehny mitään Suomelle vaan karjalaan ja viroon

Sulla on vähän toi historia hakusessa ja maantiede

>>78613196

Oli miten oli, slaavilainen torakkalauma ilmajärvellä oli valmiina kuolemaan viikinkiensä puolesta.

Laatokan viikingit olisivat olleet helposti teurastettavissa jos olisi ollut vastarintaa kuten Saarenmaalla.

>>78613133
The north sea empire wasn't a great power though

>>78613320
Niin no pointti oli ettei viikingit koskaan yrittäneet tänne mitään perustaa ku siinä ei ollut mitään järkeä. Puhe jostain noidista on vaan pelottelua. Samaa kulttuuriperintöä virolaiset ja karjalaiset, vepsäläiset ja muut itämerensuomalaiset on. Miksei ne niitä pelännyt?

Kun katsoo vähän sitä karttaa niin tajuaa.

>>78613272
>>78613484

Juuh yritä nyt vittu tajuta että viikingit perustivat siirtokuntia sinne missä ei ollut vastarintaa koska olivat sotureina melko heikkoja. Noituuteen tuskin vakasti uskoivat.

Eipä sillä erityisesti väliä ole vaikka eivät olisi edes halunneet Suomeen mutta jos vastarintaa ei olisi ollut niin toki täällä olisi sentään muutama siirtokunta ollut.

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>>78613133
Because of geography, if Denmark would be attached to Scandinavia it would have become Swedish territory just like all the other land you lost. Btw isn't the land you lost in Sweden bigger than the actual Denmark of today?

>>78613582
It is. And we still manage to be better off economically than the entirety of Sweden today.

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greetings my fellow boat people

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>>78613628
Yeah it's like when comparing a city to the countryside, the city always does better economically, and since Denmark is just one big city...

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>Scandis fighting each other
embarrassing

>>78613569
Ja tänne ei ollut mitään järkeä perustaa siirtokuntia kun katsoo vähän sitä karttaa. Sinne Nevajoensuistoon oli vähän järkevämpään kun sieltä pääsee suoraan keski-venäjälle ja kreikkaan. Mihin nää Suomen joet menee? Helpompi mennä suoraan merestä Nevalle ja Laatokkaan
Ja yhtälailla ne oli kaikki itämerensuomalaisia jotka siellä oli. Kun ei suomalaisia nykyisessä muodossa ollut

>>78613954
Please, we've been fighting for longer than America has existed.

>>78614001
even we had to make peace with the britbitch limeys

>>78611609
>implygning we didn't get absolutely blown the fuck out
It was a good run, sure, but some countries aren't meant to be great powers.

>>78613957

Kerroppa miksi Gröönlannissa oli siirtokunta mutta Suomessa ei. Ei taida liittyä kauppareitteihin se.

Ja yritä nyt tajuta että Slaavit olivat mukana toiminnassa Laatokalla.

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>>78613954
We just have some business to sort out, we'll be done as soon as Denmark stops being uppity.

>>78614228
>Kerroppa miksi Gröönlannissa oli siirtokunta mutta Suomessa ei.
Koska siellä ei juuri ollut vastarintaa? Viikingit ja niitä sitä ennen olleet kulttuurit olivat jo kauan aikaa tehneet kauppaa suomalaisten kanssa, jotka asuivat rannikolla, mutta koita ymmärtää ettei suomen alueiden valtaaminen ollut millään tapaa hyödyllistä.
Gröönlannista sai kuka tahansa lääniä itselleen.
>Ja yritä nyt tajuta että Slaavit olivat mukana toiminnassa Laatokalla.
Slaavit tuli laatokan alueelle vasti Novgorodin aikana paljon viikinkiajan jälkeen.

>>78614354

Ehei, viikingit ja niiden ryssät elivät samoissa kaupungeissa. Et näytä tajuavan paskaakaan siitä kuinka Venäjä sai alkunsa. Ryssät alistuivat ei niitä valloitettu.

>>78608357
>Also we've always been the strongest nation of the Nordic countries.
>Swedes have always fought to the last Finn

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>>78608357
>literally been in relations with arabs for over 1000 years

Cant make this shit up

>>78614718
the last swede too
everybody who went to war in my fathers village died on more than one occasion

>>78614916

When was that? The 15th century?

>>78614949
idk
15/1600s probably

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>>78614844
Yeah watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaXy5o1WFxs

>>78614997
probably not 15
but i don't remember
there was a sign i read it on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aEgqgZ3l0E

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>>78608032
Only Danes can claim both of those things.

>>78616335
>Vikings
Yes
>Great power
No

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_F%C3%BDrisvellir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hj%C3%B6rungav%C3%A1gr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Svolder

>>78608290
>We
And the most famous eastern "Viking" Rurikid was N1c which is not Swedish.

>implying Sweden isn't just a rebelious danish territory and therefore legit danemark clay

>>78609460
Finnish persons have translated Swedish names in old norse/Swedish/etc. sources.

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>>78617476
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dansk-svenska_krig

>>78610144
We are honorable folks. Swedes are the one who betrayed us in 1808 after we paid 700 years taxes to Stockholm. Not a single rebellion and then we get dropped like a used cum sock in 1808.

>>78617420
>>78617638

ME OLTIIN RUUUUUURIIIIIIIK JA SHIIIIIIIIIT

Juuh elikkä ruotsalaiset ovat ihan totta saaneet uralilaista kyrpää niin kauan ja pitkään että joillain alueilla N1c on reilusti yli 10%.
En yllättyisi ollekaan jos se oli vielä Rurikin aikana enemmistö Roslagenissa eli Tukholman.

>>78617709
And you got a self-sustaining country for it, otherwise you'd be poor like Eastern European Slavic countries.

>>78613133
At least we BTFO'd Danes from Skåne. Good times.

>>78617694
I don't speak gay danish

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>>78617913
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=sv&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fsv.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDansk-svenska_krig

>>78617318
>hjorungavåg and svolder
why tho, one was a norwegian victory and one was not

>>78617811
We are poor because our investment to Stockholm in return to security was wasted.

This is a funny remark btw since if you ask any normie Swede which is poorer Finland or Poland they'd say "no difference". Swedes ahve no idea about Finland.

>>78617420
He was a swede. He was born in Sweden and spoke old norse. All finns are swedes

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>>78617420

Runestone made by Rörik (Rurik) in Sweden, it says it's dedicated to his two sons Frode och Asbjörn.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96sterg%C3%B6tlands_runinskrifter_153

https://kulturbilder.wordpress.com/2013/07/25/runstenar-ostergotland-og-153/

>tfw Sweden used to have epic Northern wars with Russia
>tfw they would probably lose within days in a one-on-one war with Russia today

>>78608032
>Sweden
>Great power
Sure they were strong but they weren't superpower tier

>>78619325
> Probably
> Finns could take em out in 48hours

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>>78619380
>Sweden and Denmark has been fighting forever where Sweden came out victorious
>>78617984
>Only one time going to Finland and won it over the first try
Hmm

>>78619367
>Sure they were strong but they weren't superpower tier
I never claimed it was a superpower. I claimed it was a great power, which it was

>>78608032
Italians were: THE ETRUSCANS THE ROMAN EMPIRE THE RENAISSANCE THE FASCISM

>>78619546
But now you dont have us to fight ur wars.
Instead your best warriors would be against you.
150Finns could easily kill 2 000 swedecucks

>>78617709
>Not a single rebellion
Lad...

>>78619546
>won it over the first try
Lad...

>>78608355
Curious that now it's Baghdad and Afghanistan that's all the way in you(r women)

>>78619836
Don't know what happened, was quoting this guy
>>78608357

>>78608357
Did they fear the Sardinian warrior?

>>78608357
Imagine being an Italian thinking: >Yes, finally we have repelled the swarthy Arab hoards of pirates

And suddenly hoards of snow niggers arrive at your shores all of a sudden from God knows where

>>78608370
>they're creators of Kievian Rus
that Soviets denied this due to autism doesn't mean that it shouldn't be denied anyway

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>didn't completely conquer Denmark
You had one job Sweden.