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Why are white people so upset at the term People of Color (PoC)?

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Why are white people so upset at the term People of Color (PoC)? And specially so when non-whites use it to refer to themselves? I don't get it
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>>78584290
>mexico
>nonwhite
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>call someone a "coloured person"
>get called a racist
>call someone a "person of colour"
>be politically correct

Really fires up the ol' noggin.
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>>78584399
>Really fires up the ol' noggin.
Not really
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>>78584290
I don't know any white people who are upset about the term 'people of color.' They're the ones who seem to use it the most.
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Because it literally frames the whole thing into Whitey vs everyone else.
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>>78584384
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>>78584509
Kek
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>whites are the only race that can have different color hair and eyes than other races
>non-whites are "people of color"
Thinking.jpg
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>>78584506
Doesn't non-white do the same? What's the difference? Does that mean you're afraid of a hypothetical situation in which non-whites become a united bloc and start plotting against you?
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White people have color too. The term is just meaningless.
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>>78586022
>white people have color too
>they are called white
>white is the absence of color
hmmmmm
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>>78584290
I'm half-white and the term always sounded cringy as fuck to me.
>>78584399
Exactly. SJW doublethink always astounds me.
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>>78586492
Colored is not used because of its racist connotations, why is that so hard to comprehend?
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>>78586462
>white is the absence of color
That would be black.
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>>78587222
>that would be black
That would be the absence of light.
White is all the colours combined
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>>78584586
>tfw I brought this up at my dad's church's "diversity conference"
>tfw I got accused of "internalized racism" because I'm only half-black

Fuck's sake. These white people claim to love diversity, but when I claim that a dozen of them are more diverse than my dad's entire home country that's racist. I think they just hate whites.
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>>78586462
But White people aren't really White.
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>>78589184
Well you are pink people from now on.
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>White(and its different tones) is not "colored"

>"White" people have tremendous variance in look, culture, religious beliefs, ethnic origins/history, etc
>Diversity always refers to nonwhites
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>>78588778
color is on the light spectrum
>canadian education
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>>78588952
>it's a house nig-nog episode
Booooring
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>non-whites
>people
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I dunno about other white people, but "people of color" just doesn't mean anything. There's no such thing. There are no people of color. It's a racial engineering scam to try to lump black and Injuns in with foreign invaders, so they can be switched out one for the other. Black people from here have the right to be here. Foreigners don't. Black Americans are entitled to work here.

Instead, our manipulocracy is trying to replace them with Mexicans and Salvadorans who will work for pennies.

Same reason they invented "African American" as a term for black people who are not from Africa: It paints the picture that they might as well leave because, well, they're from Africa.

And when you call them on it, they call you Hitler.
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>>78584619
>a hypothetical situation in which non-whites become a united bloc
Hopefully not a hypothetical for too long.
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>>78593025
stop posting this
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>>78584290
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People of color includes every non White right?
What about Shitskin?
Does it include Latinos and Asians too?
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>>78593070
Blacks aren't the only ones under the PoC and yes seeing as they have far more different eyes shapes than you, they are indeed more diverse.
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>>78593070
>>78593070
ironically black people are more genetically diverse than white people. probably more culturally diverse if you look at how many different langauges and tribes there are in africa (small countries like sierra leone can have as many different languages as western europe as a whole)

phenotypically there is also some divergence though i guess not in eye colour.

all in all your picture is a lazy one.
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>>78593282
they are ugly and disgusting

i have met many of them
if they had the chance to look white
every single one of them would use it

>>78593347
who cares
they are ugly
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>>78593383
>literally not an argument
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>>78593070
Light eyes and hair aren't exclusive to Europeans or even Caucasians. They just have higher rates of it through selection pressures.
>>78584290
I think people just got pissed that POC is a unifying term in the US and West and they feel excluded even though they are the ones that called themselves white or at the very least called others brown and black.
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>>78593383
Nope.
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>>78593421
Where is that woman from?
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>>78593458
Cambodia. The native children at times get very blonde hair but as they age it gets brown or brassy.

It's not European genes, in fact you see this coloration amongst upland Papua New Guinea (not the black yet blond Solomon islanders)
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>>78593501
Here's an example dude on the left while tanned has a pinkish under tone lighter hair and similar eye color compared to the right.
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>>78593501
>>78593528
Cool. I've read that the genes responsible for blonde hair among Melanesians are different from Whites'.
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>>78593404
nobody cares if blacks arent the only "people" of "color"
they are all ugly and disgusting

>>78593421
light eyes and hair are european
you can cherry pick some freaks out of a huge population
but light eyes and hair are still european

>>78593443
what nope
they are ugly
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>>78593572
Germans are ugly desu
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>>78586462
dark brown to pale blonde to bright red hair
pale white to olive skin
all eye colours

meanwhile, non-whites are just different shades of brown
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>>78593572
Nope not European. In fact light skin and hair derive from Neolithic middle eastern farmers migrating to Europe.
>>78593562
There are many different genes for color variation in humans and no doubt more are formed daily in people. All it takes are the selective pressure to make them more common in a given population
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>>78593643
>different shades of brown
melaninated*
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>>78593643
Skin color variation is highest in sub-saharan Africa.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11126724

Looking at Igbo from bright yellow cream colored to red and various brown to black.
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>>78593597
yes but dark people are uglier

>>78593660
who cares
europeans have now light skin
european feature
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>>78593740
No it just shows that a middle eastern variation is common in middle eastern-european hybrids. But ultimately just because something is common doesn't mean that it can be claimed by a people.

It's just a genetic bottleneck. Mutations that become prominent through close marriages over the generations. Nothing wrong with that, it's human history.
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>>78593775
i dont care
europeans have light skin
others dont
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>>78593714
yes but what of hair and eyes?
subsaharan africa is really genetically diverse, I just mean the term is retarded and brings a pretense of world solidarity against those deemed "white". I bet more so-called "white" people use it than so called "PoC".
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>>78593853
So is >>78584619 right? You're afraid?
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>>78593791
This is false.

Others do in fact have lighter skin, it's all a matter of mutations and recessive carriers reproducing to make it common.

If light child child grew up and had kids with others who had the genes their children would likely end up also having said genes and phenotype.

That's it, your genes are magically owned. They are just human variation.
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>>78593853
Don't act like white people didn't call them selves white and others black/brown/tawny


Those variations exist as well, it's not common but it happens.

Hair texture varies from course to straight, hair color varies from blondish to red to black.

All the color variation Europeans have Africans do as well. It's just a matter of proportion.
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>>78593917
only europeans have light skin
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>>78594020
Nope.

Igbo, Khoisan, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc... Can and often do have light skin.
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>>78594020
Caucasians, Central Asians, East Asians, and many Mestizos and MENA people do as well.
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>>78594037
because their population is very huge
their ideal is light skin
thats why you see so many of them in the internet
but look at youtube video of japan
they are all darker than turks

>>78594066
Georgians are Europeans
turkic subhumans mixed with light skinned people
half of kazakh population is russian
many mongrels there

east asians read above

americans were raped by spaniards and other european subhumans

arabs look white because of ancient/medieval Greeks and turks

1/4 of algerians have turkish ancestry
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>>78594133
Light skin is the standard and what darkens them is tanning. This is common with all people including pale Europeans who tan and get darker.
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This 100% igbo child with a pigment mutation no different than pigmentation mutations found else where in the world is the same coloration as Europeans.

The color genes of Europeans are not uniquely anyone's, it's human variation.
>>78594133
Light skin does not arise from Europe, so how can you say those people are mongrels when in fact Europeans are also mongrels who got their color from middle easterners?
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>>78594180
they are not tanned
their countries are more cloudy because east asia is humid (shit)

just look at asian immigrants then

they are darker than turks
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>>78594299
light skin is european feature
all others are dark
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>>78594299
boy in your picture looks slavic
it is weird that many finn mongrels/russians look like albino africans
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>>78586462
Mexican education, everyone
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>>78584290
I hate sjw that's actually appropriating the term non-whites as their own. Kill all sjws. We're not that weak that needs your sympathies. Please. SJW. kill yourselves.
t. Nusantara
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>>78594306
All of Japan fits in the sun patterns of France, skin color itself is not always effected by weather especially given the fact the people in the northern hemisphere have been wearing clothes since the time of agriculture.

So no.
>>78594331
False. There are light skin people globally, Europeans have bottle necks and those mutations became more common but not unique in Europe
>>78594356
Except he is not and his colors are common throughout Europe.
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>>78584290
Me neither i'm a fucking mongol but they keep calling me aryan, i hate it.
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>colored people is racist
>people of color is not
>''aren't these just the same thing?''
>''no because the other puts the word people before the word color so it doesn't dehumanize poc''
>people think this somehow makes sense
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>>78594420
>>78586608
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>>78594420
Coloured is an anachronism. It in American English referred specifically to Black Americans.

People of Color is for all non-white people.
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>>78594405
japanese are darker than turks

light skin is european
you are jealous of europeans
because they have light skin

slavs are white niggers
some black albinos look russian
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>>78594524
wrong
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>>78594574
what is wrong?
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>>78594478
What always blows my mind is how in the supposed Mecca of free speech that the United States is, there is so much shit like this. You probably have more ordinary terms that you consider racist than we have saunas.
Colored is anachronism? Both things mean non-white anyway. You're literally just saying the same things and talking about the same things people have always talked about, but then you just change the terms from term to another over time so that people don't get their feelings hurt.
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>>78594677
How do I put this.

Coloured is like saying negro, both terms were utilized by white people and institutions to demonstrate superiority.

They are exonyms who's main purpose was to convey contempt and inferiority.

Black was a very radical term to say, it used to be an insult. In fact talk to old black people (like 65+) they told me growing up for one black person to call another black person black was the worst thing you could say. People would fight because it was used to mean inferiority.

Well the 1960's rolls around and black youth decided they were going to make Black good, "black is beautiful". It was a very radical thing to do.

Maybe you don't understand it because in your language. But that's not the same here. Then like Coloured and Baster are not insults in Afrikaans people call themselves that proudly..

It's just historical context.
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>>78594677
Also freedom of speech is the government not censoring not people telling others to be respectful.
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>>78594806
I'm not trying to be an edgelord, but let's put it this way.
I understand, but I just don't care about your historical context, at all. Not as far as the terms people can use is concerned.
>>78594824
Yeah I know, but it's still surprising.
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>>78594956
It's called common decency and courtesy. The Finnish community sued the US to not be called Mongols and Mongrels and won. People deserve to be called what they call themselves and that changes with time.

Freedom of speech while very vast also common with a social obligation to be respectful in return if that's what's given to you or you give out.
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>>78595878
>The Finnish community couldn't handle the banter
Man, US diasporas really are always worse than their native counterparts.
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>>78596041
They were first gen and fresh off the boat.

They demanded respect to give their children better futures.

No need to be edgy.
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>>78584290
>People of Color
>Color
More like shades of brown
>people
Debatable
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>>78593660
>In fact light skin and hair derive from Neolithic middle eastern farmers migrating to Europe.
Wrong, the pale rosy skin people commonly refer to as white was brought by Indo-Europeans. Neolithic farmers looked more like Sardinians.
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>>78594037
They don't fit this type, however >>78596297
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>be systematically oppressed due to your race for decades
>finally achieve equality under the law
>community is still in shambles and needs a lot of work to fix
>focus on semantics
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.
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>>78596297
False

>Their findings show Sardinia as an outlier in the general European genetic landscape. Almost 80 percent of modern Sardinian mitogenomes belong to branches that cannot be found anywhere else outside the island

https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-02-sardinian-dna-genetic-clues-islandand.amp
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>>78593421
>Light eyes and hair aren't exclusive to Europeans
It practically is, also both originated in Europe.
>>78593660
>originated in Europe
>found in Europeans
>not European
I know it must suck to be a shitskin, but try to contain your butthurt.
>>78594405
>There are light skin people globally
See >>78596297 and >>78596340
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>>78596474
50% of black people are middle class and quite frankly my family is wealthier than most Americans and most of the world so yes I can care about how I wish to be called.

You are an edgelord and a boring one at that
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>>78586608
reclaim the word, then. isn't that what marginalized groups are so fond of?
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>>78596823
Farmer admixture peaks in Sardinians, the very same admixture you claim gave Europeans their white skin. Neolithic farmers weren't white but had olive skin.
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>>78584290
It is a shitty, vague term. Same goes for colored person.

Ironically, we could say that both have some racist connotations, as they basically throw every single non-white race under the same umbrella.
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>>78596856
They've decided to use POC, you're just assblasted about reality
>>78596914
Old study, clearly with the new data Sardinians are not in fact representative of Neolithic agriculturalists.
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>>78596932
It's not racist in it's broad categorization, it's maintaining that historically and contemporarily non-white people have and do face racial biases and discrimination.

Their unifing characteristic being non-whiteness that causes racial disparity
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>>78596941
Indo-European steppe pastoralists gave Europeans their rosy white skin, so unsurprisingly steppe admix peaks in the whitest looking populations. It is common knowledge. Obviously Sardinians aren't identical to Neolithic farmers, but they're closest you'll get to them in terms of skin color and overall phenotype.
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>>78596852
how did you know they originated (solely) in Europe? there were anatolian farmers with light eyes and Siberian ANE had derived alleles for blond hair

it probably took a combination of population to give us really blond and really light eyes
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>>78597066
Sardinians have extra WHG ancestry that might have darkened them too. the southern european neolithic populations were on average darker-skinned (allele-wise at least) than the anatolian ones because they had extra WHG admixture
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>>78596967
I'm not saying it's racist, but it seems like a term that mainly white people who desperately want to come across as PC would use. I would much rather get called Hispanic, or heck, even a spic (as long as it's not being used in a derogatory way, obviously). But I do find it sort of... condescending, I guess? To me, the term feels like a "well, there's us (whites) and then there's them (non-whites)" thing.

Aside from that, it's also inconvenient in everyday usage. When you say that someone is a PoC, you're hardly describing them in a clear manner. They could be black, Hispanic, etc.

But then again, I'm not a fan of the whole "we the opressed" thing. I'm a spic, not a "PoC".
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>>78596855
Except that I'm not an edgelord. I just fail to see how a community that has supposedly been through so many hard times and grew up around racism and whatnot manages to be the biggest bunch of touchy little victim mentality having whiners out there, and how apparently fucking words and terms are some of the most pressing issues you have.
If I had to choose what terms to use I would be respectful out of common decency and not wanting to cause a scene, however that's not what this is about.
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>>78597092
They might've been lighter, but they certainly didn't look like Northern Europeans who have mostly steppe blood.
>>78597078
>how did you know they originated (solely) in Europe
Probably not, but Europeans are their sole inheritors.
>Siberian ANE had derived alleles for blond hair
ANE weren't Mongoloid, it just happens to peak in populations who nowadays are.
>there were anatolian farmers with light eyes
Foreign influence.
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>>78597066
Steppe pastoralists came after about 4k years looking at the recent figures of lactose persistence where as the skin colouration is older.

So no.
>>78597157
Hispanic isn't a race. It's taken decades but Americans on the coast lines West and East are finally understanding it's socio-cultural meaning doesn't equal racial meaning.

Be white if you want, I'm not stopping you.

So for example people now get Carmen Diaz is not POC she is just a White Latino and so on.
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>>78597189
You are being edgy because clearly the leaps black Americans I've made in less than 70 years is above that of most nations on this planet.

Black Americans have influenced resistance around the world from the Civil Rights movements to the Black Panthers and beyond.

Go ahead, call black Americans whiny. You're the one whining that black people are choosing for themselves what is and isn't appropriate. Your the one who cannot handle (or in your words "care") about the reality of the cultural landscape.

Deal or don't. it is what it is and you aren't gonna change that.
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>>78597189
This, Finland went from an agrarian shithole to a first world country in less than a century with sheer force of will, after having suffered centuries of imperialism and racial discrimination home and abroad. Amerilard minorities have no excuse.
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>>78597197
>Probably not, but Europeans are their sole inheritors

those phenotypes exist throughout Western Eurasia, just in different frequencies due to lower/higher population replacement. so I wouldn't say sole, just more important

>ANE weren't Mongoloid, it just happens to peak in populations who nowadays are.

Mongoloid vs Caucasoid for very ancient populations that contributed to both is a bit of a non-issue these days I think, considering we know all major races seem to have had admixture from various sources. either way they were a genetically very outlying population that contributed to both Europeans and Amerindians (and maybe even East Asians) and didn't live in Europe. so you can't call them 'European'

>Foreign influence

not really, since anatolian farmers can be modelled as a mix of other groups you can argue they got their lighter eyes from their WHG-like component but that would still not make their light eyes 'European' - it would mean that light eyes arose outside of Europe too/first

what's clear is that the lightest ancient groups sampled so far (aside from some fringe ones like the SHG) that resemble northern european pigmentation were the Bronze Age steppe ones that were a mix of steppe and native european eef/whg. the sampled yamnaya that had lower eef/whg admixture was less fair but that might just be a coincidence, you'd need more samples
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>>78597228
I'm not white and neither do I want to be white. But I can see how term could be useful now. Cheers.
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>>78597228
Sure the white rosy skin predates Indo-Europeans, but with them it became widespread; all modern Europeans who have such skin are of primarily Indo-European descent.
>came after about 4k years
Farmers came very late too, yet you're very quick to associate white skin in Europeans with them.
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>>78597292
Leaps my ass. Large parts of your communities are still stricken by poverty and crime, more than most of the Western world. Read >>78597308
If you want to be called whatever, I'll call you whatever out of decency. However that doesn't mean that I should care about how your history affected the terminology you use or not criticize you for being whiny. Whiny is precisely the correct term to describe someone who gets offended over words that people use and change the appropriate words to use once every year.
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>>78597308
Yes because they had the agency and ability to work as a nation to do so after civil war. Not as a minority with little ability to truly govern themselves.


It's a false equivalency.
>>78597403
Steppe nomads brought lactose persistence, I do European middle eastern farmers brought pigmentation changes. The genetics of Sardinia are unique to the island and they themselves have a long and isolated history steering their phenotypical variation.

They are not an accurate portrayal of Indo European middle eastern farmers.

Regardless the fact remains that the pigmentation shifts we see in Europe as a whole is not indigenous to the continent, it's merely bottle necked recessive genes.

Which brings me back to my original point light skin and eyes and hair is not uniquely European, it's proportionality is but the genes and expression of those genes aren't
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>>78597349
>those phenotypes exist throughout Western Eurasia, just in different frequencies due to lower/higher population replacement. so I wouldn't say sole, just more important
They're mostly of Indo-European descent, as they spread those genes around primarily, and modern Europeans are their closest descendants.
>Mongoloid vs Caucasoid for very ancient populations that contributed to both is a bit of a non-issue these days I think, considering we know all major races seem to have had admixture from various sources. either way they were a genetically very outlying population that contributed to both Europeans and Amerindians (and maybe even East Asians) and didn't live in Europe. so you can't call them 'European'
I'd call them a Proto-Eurasian population of sorts, but definitely not Mongoloid.
>not really, since anatolian farmers can be modelled as a mix of other groups you can argue they got their lighter eyes from their WHG-like component but that would still not make their light eyes 'European' - it would mean that light eyes arose outside of Europe too/first
Not arose outside of Europe, probably migrated outside of it.
>what's clear is that the lightest ancient groups sampled so far (aside from some fringe ones like the SHG) that resemble northern european pigmentation were the Bronze Age steppe ones that were a mix of steppe and native european eef/whg. the sampled yamnaya that had lower eef/whg admixture was less fair but that might just be a coincidence, you'd need more samples
It is probably a coincidence, especially given how all the samples from the swarthier subset seem to be R1b.
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>>78597536
the anatolian farmers brought relative skin and hair depigmentation, compared to the native hunter-gatherers (for most of Europe at least). some farmer/hunter mixtures later on actually appear quite fair

but he's right that the steppe peoples were the fairest population in our record so far, skin-wise at least. and those guys make up 20-50% of modern European ancestry outside of Sardinia. the question for me is whether the general depigmentation of later steppe groups is due to greater admixture from farmer/hunter european sources or just due to our sampling being sparse

but you're right that we shouldn't project modern phenotypes completely onto the past even if the populations are similar. for example Sardinians have extra hunter admixture that might have made their skin darker and farmers in southern europe seem to have selected for lower height while farmers in northern europe for greater
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>>78584290
It's a retard term. There's no such thing as "colorless people". It carries as much meaning as "genderfluid" or "moderate muslim".
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>>78597465
I do read and quite often on the topic but if you look at the poverty of black Americans you notice

http://www.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2014/01/05/poverty-map/

The rural South is mostly poor regardless of color and the urban north with it's waning manufacturing that was the sole reason why blacks were brought up is also quite poor.


The position of black Americans is directly related to their parents and grandparents positions, generations unable to gain from the fruits of desegregation and the GI bill in a post WWII landscape. The reality is the poorest of blacks in this generation have always been poor because they've never had access nor have they until recently ever been courted with a real means to succeed. They were a labour class for cheap labour markets who were worked more for less than immigrants from Europe. Then became refuse with the shift of manufacturing from Urban cores to suburbs.

Still the middle class is strong and growing and again my family for the better part of two centuries has lived above that of most Americans regardless of color.
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>>78597709
It's called White and Europeans called themselves that
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>>78584619
im honestly afraid of it. i wasnt born into colonial luxuries or privilege yet you people of color are ready to burn me on a stake just because of my skin color. you niggas are mentally ill.
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>>78597669
well, yeah, I didn't call them Mongoloid either, just used them to show that blond hair might not have strictly speaking solely or only 'European', in either genetic or geographic sense, origins

and why are you so sure about blue eyes arising in Europe? Villabruna is our oldest sample with likely blue eyes as far as I remember and he has affinities that seem to point to him being a migration from the Balkan-Anatolian area or at least receiving admixture from that area. maybe the Anatolian farmers got their sometimes lighter eyes from local admixture, not something that backmigrated from Europe to Anatolia
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>>78597689
It's a complicated history but I just stated my rebuttal to counter this notion of lightness as being intrinsically European since time immemorial from the German poster.

Anyways it's late and I gotta go to bed :-P

Have a good night!
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>>78597536
>Steppe nomads brought lactose persistence, I do European middle eastern farmers brought pigmentation changes.
Wrong, they also brought rosy skin. Farmers brought pigmentation changes sure, but they were only lighter than the swarthy huntergatherers.
>Indo-European middle eastern farmers
Early European farmers had nothing to do with Indo-Europeans, in fact Indo-Europeans killed them off wherever they went (excluding their women, of course).
>Regardless the fact remains that the pigmentation shifts we see in Europe as a whole is not indigenous to the continent
Depends on your definition of indigenous, seeing as Indo-Europeans wiped out most their rivals. Also whatever bottleneck you are talking about never took place.
>Which brings me back to my original point light skin and eyes and hair is not uniquely European, it's proportionality is but the genes and expression of those genes aren't
No they aren't, just like epicanthic folds for instance aren't unique to Asians, but both correlate with influence from areas where said traits are dominant.
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>>78597984
K so I'mma respond to you one last time and I'm really going to sleep.

>Not denying steppe pigmentation influence, I'm starting their entry into European populations aligns with lactose persistence
>Indo European farmer ≠ equal European farmer however Indo European farmers are behind pigment shift initially. Bottlenecks can arise from selective pressures including the kinds of women picked/intermarried or the degree with which lightest skin was beneficial for long and short term health further north.
>That's my point the epicanthic fold is found on every habitable continent on Earth, it's not uniquely asian it just dominates there. The fold itself arose out of mutations and stabilized.

That was the point. The pressures themselves can exist anywhere there is nothing magical about Europe that created the degree of depigmentation. The conditions of Rosy skin can be replicated anywhere, the question is will it last?

In Papua highlands "red skins" with blondish hair and blueish/hazel eyes can survive given the cloud cover and temperature not being too extreme.

In Nigeria depigmentation has occurred based on breeding pressure alone given just how closely related they are to Yoruba.

The combination of factors that normalized pigmentation across the board is uniquely European, not Europeans themselves.

Goodnight/day
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>>78598244
I get your overall point but there's a lot of confusion in your post too
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>>78594299
That kid is an albino. Which is very different from having light pigmentation like white people. Albinos have many other problems attached to their condition, like poor eyesight. That's no the case with Europeans.
So stop this "Europeans are just albinos" nonsense.

>>78594356
That kid does not look neither slavic nor finnish you retard. He looks like an albino nigger, which is what he is.
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>>78598244 #
>That was the point. The pressures themselves can exist anywhere there is nothing magical about Europe that created the degree of depigmentation
Rosy skin is ideal for Europe and therefore it prevailed here but not in Asia for instance, if the pressure for those traits could exist anywhere they would've prevailed outside of Europe.
>The combination of factors that normalized pigmentation across the board is uniquely European, not Europeans themselves.
But it does make us unique, anybody who didn't look like us died off because of their disadvantageous traits. The way you put it makes it sound like a non-white could go live in the European wild and turn white overnight, instead of dying due to inability to adapt.
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>>78599426
no need to overstate the case either though. in Europe, as far north as Latvia relatively pigmented populations could live without just dying off apparently (I'm sure the fishing helped)
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>>78599745
But they all died out because they were at a disadvantage. Inuits too would've died off by now, if it wasn't for their diet and lack of competition.
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>>78584290
lets see, because white is also a color
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