If we were so bad against the finns. Then how come they rarely

because there was 15k finns and 200k swedes at the time of "crusades"

finnish identity and language was made up by drunk russian officials to solidify their grip on Österland

And they still willingly learn your language.

>>78561258

Because West Finns are to Finns what Dogs are to Wolves. The last real Finns are Karelian.

That doesn't however mean that animal abuse is okay just because it's done to an obedient dog.

The Vikings wrote about fierce resistance in their times. Do you think that ended? No, the Swedes had just developed their methods and crushed opposition on horseback.

>>78561325
it's the other way around lmao quit daydreaming, eastern finns work as farmers and manual laborers

>>78561357

Savonians were just some hicks living deep in the woods who didn't even know Sweden existed

Karelians are a warrior race

>>78561382
Same inbreds, different surname.

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>>78561357
>eastern finns work as farmers and manual laborers
Supposing so, and? Are you refuting his point?

>>78561399

t. Turku

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They tried once or twice. They were punished pretty hard and seemed to learn their lesson.

>>78561258
When will Finland uncuck itself from Swedish yoke, removing Mandatory Swedish and changing its official English name to Suomi?

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>>78561357
kys cuck

>Russian name Cyмь, 'Sum', appearing in Novgorodian chronicles, is believed to refer to Finns proper. "Sums" are mentioned as allies of Swedes at the Battle of Neva at 1240.[3]

>>78561426
Follow the money.

>>78561325
Ottaako vinosilmä-Igoria päähän kun länsisuomalaisilla on kaikki paremmin kun itäroskalla? :^)

>>78561483
>It has also been suggested that the suspicious information on Norwegians', Finns' and Tavastians' participation was made up in the 14th century, the time of writing of the First Novgorod Chronicle, when Sweden was in control of Norway, Finland and Tavastia.
and they got paid for fighting russians, so?

>>78561483

Tavastians didn't even live in Uusimaa because they were afraid of Vikings so much. Meanwhile Karelians proudly lived by the coast of Kannas and Kyme.

>>78561535

Suomea ei edes olisi ilman karjalaisia sotiemme sankareita.

>>78561540
Finns proper submitted to Swedes voluntarily, they're the cuckiest tribe.

>>78561593
Again, the Vikings originally recorded fierce resistance. It didn't suddenly end, it was simply crushed by knights on horseback: more modern battle techniques.

>>78561535
Western Finns have Sami blood, especially visible in Pohjanmaa.

>>78561583
Mitä oikein selität? Koko Suomesta sinne lähdettiin sotimaan ihan yhtälailla.

>>78561614

Why were they hiding inland instead of living at the coast like real men?

>>78561728
There are no hills to put fortresses on at the beach, but nevertheless the Vikings have recorded such interactions as well where crazed fucks came running out the woods and witches running towards them with weapons and curses.

>>78561707

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannerheim-risti

>Eniten ritareita oli kotoisin Karjalasta (49), toiseksi eniten Pohjanmaalta (34) ja kolmanneksi eniten Savosta (30). Neljä ritaria oli syntynyt ulkomailla.

Karjalaiset tekivät eniten urotöitä.

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>>78561475
Do you even know what that painting is about?

It's about the russian aggression and occupation during the great northern war. Where practically third of our population was killed and most farmland salted&burned.

>>78562174
Well I found it on the Swedish wiki page for the Codgel war.

>>78561258
Finns don't like to get close to each other. Trying to fight in regiments or close quarters was fundamentally unfair to their autistic selves.

The true triumph of the Finn was when they could be snipers/sabateurs and live alone in the woods for weeks on end.

>>78562251

Upvotes for you sir

>>78562251
? What was a hakkapeliitta?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakkapeliitta

>>78562528

A cuck that should not be celebrated

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>>78562589
Aha

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I love finns and Finland, is that bad?

>>78562589
This, anybody who takes pride in anything to have taken place under Swedish rule is a cuck

>>78562621
Your extinction is nigh

>>78562238
That's just a dumb editor, the painting is done by a Finnish painter , it's called the burnt village and it's definitely about Russia burning a Finnish village

>>78562608

Why the fuck should we celebrate people who worked to advance the cause of the Swedes?

If the Swedish empire was defeated by it's opponents at least it would have been advantageous for Finns in the long term.

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>>78562685
Why so rude?

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>>78562705
O K

>>78562741

Svecomania really is a mental disorder get it checked

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>>78561258
get fucked sven

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>>78563274
Aasia kunnossa.

>>78563398
He was a brit though. He's more likely to be your ancestor than mine

>>78561766
Source?

1809 was one of the most important years in Finnish history, it was then that we got free from Swedish yoke.

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helo i luv finlan