i'm a tatar muslim, i don't want to be friends with

>>78556855
Just pretend you are Russian like every ethnic minority from Russia does.

>>78556855
Are Tatars white?

>>78556867
yeah, with a name like miniahmed gabdulhakimov thats the best thing i could do
>>78556881
no, but sometimes we are

>>78556881
also, i am considered shitskin as well, so there is no reason for me to not be a muslim. i also believe in higher forces, could be god could be cosmic power, so even more reason to remain being muslim or at least calling yourself such

You aren't a special snowflake either way

>>78556891
>yeah, with a name like miniahmed gabdulhakimov thats the best thing i could do

Don't worry, Westerners don't know about these things.

There are two famous models: Artur Kulkov and Alim Khokonov, both from are kebab from Caucasus and everyone thinks they're ethnic Russian.

In the last decade Hollywood has been portraying Russians as Arabic looking, the era of Ivan Drago is over, so no one thinks Russians are white anymore. But everyone knows Russians are Christian, which is why i'm recommending you to be Russian.

>>78556867
>like every ethnic minority from Russia does

They never do that. These faggots rather claim to be tatars/bashkirs/erzya/mordvins/chuvashes/udmurts/selkups/ukr*inians/germans/etc. even if they have 1/256 of their heritage, don't know a single word of their language and lived the entire life in Moscow.

>>78557032
ive had problems with that in europe though, where people where clearly worried when i was saying my name and were saying if im muslim or smth like that. i want to study in europe, maybe czech republic for a master degree, thats why that kinda worries me.
>>78557049
they always do, vanya, i always used to say im russian, cause no one even knows who tatars are. if im in post soviet countries, then of course i rather say that im a tatar.

you should not decide your spirituality by other people

>>78557113
well, as i said i believe in some sort of god, as superstitious as i am, whether its allah, god, or tengri, but people woulnt really care about that. some barbaric polack would probably break my head with some beer bottle or something, if i would visit pooland

>>78557098
>where people where clearly worried when i was saying my name and were saying if im muslim or smth like that.
bullshit. you just made that up

>>78557162
why would i? i already travelled by erasmus to czech republic to brno, thats where i encountered, why the fuck would i make it up?

>>78556891
Don't you have some traditional non Muslim names? I have many southeast Asian Muslims who have Thai/Chinese sounding name, to the point no one knows they're Muslim unless you ask, maybe you should find one as well

>>78557203
we have names like timur, but thats the most used up name ever lol. others are mostly arabic, if not really "islamic". also im too used to my name. i guess im just ranting after all, lol

>>78557032
>In the last decade Hollywood has been portraying Russians as Arabic looking, the era of Ivan Drago is over

Murricunts were always portraying us as mongoloid shitskins in their propaganda.

>>78557098
>i always used to say im russian

Why did you lie to the people? Now they'll be thinking that Muslim Salavatovich Muhamaddinov is a normal russian name.

>>78557237
>Why did you lie to the people? Now they'll be thinking that Muslim Salavatovich Muhamaddinov is a normal russian name.
i did not though, dumb vanya, russian is both an ethnicity and nationality in english, as you know.

>>78557237
also, tatars are almost never have names as muhammad, magomet, muslim or islam. thats just a straight mark of shitness

>>78556881

No.

>>78557262

It shouldn't be like that, mehmet, why can't these savages introduce a new term like "Ruslander" (for example) to separate the actual Russians from the minorities?

i type like shit today lel
>>78557407
thats your problem, jan, you should have just given back our lands or something or at least leave our pre soviet surnames

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>>78557049
The bodybuilders from pic related are all Kavkaz and they all live in Moscow and claim to be 100% Russian. I can easily tell these guys aren't Russian because i'm Russian ethnic autism pro, but the average person doesn't and thinks these are just swarthy Russian. It's hilarious but at the same time disgusting. Kinda like that Pavel Petel fag who is some Tatar mongrel from Ukraine and goes around claiming to be Russian.

>>78557490
>Pavel Petel
>Tatar
good joke. i like him though, hes quite funny.
>from Ukraine
he does look like a hohol

>>78557147
Then you don't really care, you are more worried about possible violence than any notion of god

>>78556855
he looks like wh*Te subhuman wtf

>>78557576
i dont really care about violence, more just about simple inconvinience. also, its almost impossible to remain devout at this day and age, if you are raised in a civilized society (russia is almost one)

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>>78556881

>>78557236
timur is a turkic name, it means iron in uzbek or whatever

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>>78557454
>you should have just given back our lands

How do you imagine it? An independent Tatar emirate in the middle of Russia?

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>>78556881

Whiter than Russians xDD

>>78557598
what did you expect?
>>78557632
its you who were whining, boguslav, not me, im just giving you options. also, you are probably a kind of ruskie who would call tatars "churka", so you can go sit on a bottle or something
>>78557630
it wasnt as popular before though. it has some hidden soviet thing hidden in the named, like some anagram or something

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>>78557724
>you are probably a kind of ruskie who would call tatars "churka"

Yeah, sure, tatars aren't churkas at all, but 1488% aryan and white.

>>78557858
we arent white, but considering how well we live with russians without calling them bad names and them not calling us churkas, it is very hypocritical of some moskvabad dweller to call as such. gotta love the russians

>>78556855
Take a Persian,Turkish,Albanian or Bosnian name then? I guess that is inbetween

>>78557916
why though? what sense does that make? they are just as islamic or arabic influenced as our names.

>>78557951
Im talking about traditional names. I mean you could have a name from a friendly islamic country without it sounding too arabic or too russian I guess. Like "Darius","Arslan" or "Endrit". These names are 100% non-Islamic. Darius is even used by some Europeans

>>78556855
then be christian, what's even the problem

>>78556855
do what we did and cross the Danube
just drop your russian subhuman mentality on your way here

>>78557203
The Italian names are quite common among tatars. Like Renat (Renato), Arthur (that's not partiality Italian, but very common), Mars, Vener itc. I was named after my dad's friend Rafael.

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>>78559440
forgot the pic

>>78558547
His religion is part of his identity I guess

>>78556855
he looks like a gandalf

Why not just convert to Christianity and Christianize yourself?

>>78562597
why do that? ill lose all respect i could have had with tatars and other turkic nationalities. thats what i called by being a "cuck"

>>78556855
Tatars are the only good muslims out there/ Thank you guys for staying white and sane.
sandniggers can`t even compete

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tfw no tatar gf

>>78562811
the only good muslims are dead muslims, stop pretending to be russian, mehmet

>>78563392
chill, i'm a (((jew))) and that means i hate muslims passionately, but tatars are ok

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>>78563392
>>78562811
Tatarstan has the 3rd highest standard of living in Russia (only Moscow and Saint Petersburg are higher)
Tatar girls are hot
Tatar Muslims are very secular
They don't have tribal mentality like for example North Caucasian Muslims (1/3 of all marriages in Kazan are between Tatars and Russians)

>>78563679
>They don't have tribal mentality like for example North Caucasian Muslims (1/3 of all marriages in Kazan are between Tatars and Russians)
that's not a good thing lol.

>>78564045
no, it is lol.

>>78564336
why? i thought you dont want any shitskin blood in your "aryan" blood, ivan. thats what gonna happen though: our nation is gonna be assimilated into oblivion, and everyone would be called russian. and shitskin tatars would get beaten up by their own relatives, but they wont know it.

>>78556855
Change your name into something turkic like gengiz, easy fix.

>>78565152
im actually thinking of renaming myself into timerkhan. sounds pretty cool

>>78565245
The khan is going to make it obvious you're muslim though

>>78565340
lol, gengiz wont though kek

>>78565414
Yea they would think you're some we wuz mongols russian

>>78565551
Chingiz is a common Central Asian name too also how does having Khan make it obvious you're Muslim

>>78556891
whoever told you that's an Arabic name was lying

>>78565797
Because all khans are muslim

>>78565909
It is arab, its just their version of it
Same as Mohammad => Mhend here in Morocco

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>>78563569
>i'm a (((jew)))

Oh, shalom xDDD

>>78565961
not really, that's just a name a made up, lol. though its similar to a real name.

>>78565931
Didn't know Genghis Khan was Muslim

>>78566044
Didn't he or his son convert?
Anyway from what I know in India/Pakistan if you have khan in your last name it means you're muslim so I assumed its the same for the rest of asia

>>78566111
That's because they were cucked by us and a couple of his grandsons converted but not all ozbeg Khan and chagatai khan

>>78563679
>(1/3 of all marriages in Kazan are between Tatars and Russians)
lmao this is why I don't take the whole russia is 80% ethnic russian meme seriously, it's probably less

>>78566111
>Didn't he or his son convert?
No, both Genghis and Ögedei were Tengrists.

Genghis especially was a very devout Tengrist.

Keep in mind that Tatars are definetely smartest Turkic nation, and arguably the smartest among Muslims

Our ancesters went through rough opression of pidarashkas and we still managed to survive and eventually became one of the richest region of r*ssia.

Don't fall for "russian=civilized" meme,


Also, I strongly advise you to read these article in order to understand who were your grandparents and to be more proud of your nation

http://xn--80ad7bbk5c.xn--p1ai/ru/content/kazanskie-tatary

Кcтaти, eвpoпeйки, никoгдa нe accoцииpoвaли мeня здecь c бeжeнцaми или кaкими-либo фaнaтикaми, дaжe кoгдa я пpeдcтaвлялcя кaк мycyльмaнин.

Taк чтo нe пapьcя в этoм плaнe, мaлaй.

Embrace your islam and eliminate kafir harbi

>>78556855
>cause tatars were using arabic names and arabic alphabet for a long time
so what? just change it

>>78556855
Nah life is going to be way worse for you of you change it. If you're just Tatar muslim nobody really cares but if you went to the length to change your name people will discriminate way more strongly.

>>78567492
>Our ancesters went through rough opression
Good. Mudslime scum deserve it.
>Кcтaти, eвpoпeйки, никoгдa нe accoцииpoвaли мeня здecь c бeжeнцaми или кaкими-либo фaнaтикaми, дaжe кoгдa я пpeдcтaвлялcя кaк мycyльмaнин.
Eщe кaк accoцииpoвaли. Пpocтo нe гoвopили в лицo.

>>78567692
>Eщe кaк accoцииpoвaли. Пpocтo нe гoвopили в лицo.

noice projection

Taк или инaчe, вpяд ли бы oни co мнoй жили, ecли бы дyмaли пoдoбным oбpaзoм.

>>78567692
>Good. Mudslime scum deserve it.
и пoчeмy пocлe пoдoбнoгo y нac к pycнe дoлжнo быть хopoшee oтнoшeниe? cyкa, кaк жe я нeнaвижy вac

>Muh special snowflake.

I have news for you. You are not a muslim. Read Muhammad's farewell sermon.

>>78568053
get out of this thread, turd. i dont need a roach telling me if im muslim or not

>>78556867
>>78556881
>>78557026
>>78557598
Its a pasta

inb4 mama mia

>>78568015
Tatars are like turkic jews, they deserved everything that happened to them.
t. Bashkir

>>78568108
im 1/4 bashkir as well, fuck off, быcpaк мaлaй. also, bashkirs are doomed even more, so you should shut the fuck up and focus on the same enemy. i mean, at least in tatarstan they still teach tatar, while in our school bashkir is basically non-existent. and that's just cause the majority of the republic - russians, dont want to learn bashkir. i dont have anything against bashkir, same people basically, same language, so

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>>78568015
marat got baited

;d ;d ;d ;d ;d ;d

how dare you defy aLLax you wh*Te subhuamn

>>78568226
This.

Yesterday I've met group of people from Ufa - who were chiefly Tatars and russians, and few Bashkirs

russians were mocking bashkort dude for him speaking his OWN language over the phone, and he was smiling as a dumb and APOLOGIZING in reply

FFS

>>78568226
Would you support Ottoman Empire's Don-Volga canal project?
Ottomans tried to colonize Tatar states in Russia. As a result we have lots of Nogais and Crimean Tatars in Turkey.

>>78568226
In Ufa and we had mandatory Bashkir lessons for entire duration of school. I just don't see the Russians as enemies, it's a meaningless grudge that stands in the way of progress and prosperity. The most damaging thing (((Russian government))) did to us in recent times is the "purchase" of Bashneft, but the people who bought it are just as hated by normal Russians as they are hated by us. It's a fight against oligarchy, not against normal Russians.
Would you prefer being like fucking Turkey?

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>>78568649
>colonize Tatar states in Russia.

Ottomans wanted to vassalize Kazan Khanate in 16 century, but no way it could be called "colonization"

>>78568649
>As a result we have lots of Nogais and Crimean Tatars in Turkey.
yeah, cause nogais and qirims were living near turkey and became your vassals afterwards. ottomans tried to "colonize" other khanates, but were unsucceful, from what ive gathered. qirims and kazan tatars had their history though, which dissappeared after the taking the kazan.
also, there is no ottoman empire nowadays, so i wouldnt prefer it

>>78568796
>Ottomans wanted to vassalize Kazan Khanate in 16 century, but no way it could be called "colonization"
by colonizing i meant that.
>>78568826
>yeah, cause nogais and qirims were living near turkey and became your vassals afterwards. ottomans tried to "colonize" other khanates, but were unsucceful, from what ive gathered. qirims and kazan tatars had their history though, which dissappeared after the taking the kazan.
well imo your language wouldn't disappear if Ottomans managed to vassalize/annex tatar states.
though Crimean Tatar language practically does not exist (it is more Oghuz than Kypchak), everyone could speak their own language in Ottoman Empire.

>>78568759
>grudge that stands in the way of progress and prosperity

>prosperity
>minimum wage in russia is 100 euro
>intentional homicide rate is 10.5 per 100k

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>>78568759
>Some churka from a frozen shithole actually talk shit about Turkey.

>>78556855
Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior = problems solved bucko

>>78568759
>I just don't see the Russians as enemies
that's cause russians don't like chinks that much,
sorry salavat.
>we had mandatory
we had it cancelled for some time and later it got returned but only in 5-7 classes or something. also, when youll get called churchbek by some ruskies outside of bashkiria, i hope you remain being the same cuck
>like fucking Turkey?
and what's with turkey?
>>78568892
im not saying it would dissappear, im saying that ottoman empire is non-existent. turkey is not as cool as ottoman empire. except azeris and crimeans, i dont think you have much countries nowadays that would support "neo ottoman empire" or something

>>78567937
>вpяд ли бы oни co мнoй жили, ecли бы дyмaли пoдoбным oбpaзoм.
>флaг
Кeк. Гeйpoпeйцы тepпят нeдoлюдeй и дaжe любят их

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>>78569074

aгa

тeбя жe тepпят

>>78569074
pycoблядь чтo-тo зaливaeт пpo нeдoлюдeй

кeк

>>78568893
Still better than many of the post soviet alternatives. And unlike them we have potential to become so much better.
Also we thank the west every day for introducing us to glorious shock capitalism in the 90s and destroying our economy, army and thousands of lives.

>>78568964
Go pray to your sultan while Ataturk spins in his grave. Your existence is another proof that things could have been much worse for us.

>>78556855
OP do you like this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c
I have to know.

>>78569167
yeah, why not

>>78556855
This is Rubin Kazan area?

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When will we deport r*ssians from bashkiria and tatarstan lads?

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>>78569153
>And unlike them we have potential to become so much better.
Absolutely,
And independence of Tatarstan is the most effective way to achieve it, unless you were brainwashed by russians that Tatars and Bashkirs are Tajik-tier.

Even average rural Tatar has a bigger entrepreneurial drive than an average russian from """""city""""

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>>78569167
Excellent! This is good.

>>78569608

Fuck, this was for >>78569222

>>78556881
Nonironically do that, always introduce myself as tatar even though only grandpa on my mothers side was one.

>>78569501
Nah, there's plenty of Asian post soviet countries that got their glorious independence, yet half of their economy depends on their labourers working in awful conditions in Russia and sending money back home. Romantic nationalism can go suck a dick.

>>78569711
kazakhstan is pretty good, turkmenistan is pretty cool, if you have a thing for pseudo-dictatorships, kyrgyzia and uzbekistan are shit cause of sovok
also, im amazed by this mankurt, do you even know baskhir lol

>>78569711
wew, lad

You were brainwashed really hard.

>>78569895
yeah, hes probably just finished the school that was built by khamitov or something lol

>>78556855
Tatars are dirty churkas and have nothing to do with white people, you have to understand that in the first place.

>>78570615
>wh*Te """"""people"""""""
lol

>>78570696
Sand*igger please

>>78570615
i didnt even say anything about being white, you dumb govnoslav

>>78556855
You are muslim. That automatically makes you trash.

>>78572306
you have more than thousand tatars living in finland, pekka, say that to them pliz

>>78557032
what ethnicities are arthur kulkov and alim khokonov?

>>78572630
>alim khokonov
khotchik

>>78572757
i'm not a russianboo, what does this mean?

>>78565961
And what is the Arabic root of "mini"?
>>78565909
The surname is authentic though.
Gabdulhakimov < Gabdulhakim < 3abdu l-hakim
In Tatar Arabic ع is pronounced as g. So "Arab" became "garap".

>>78556855
no matter how much you deny who you are they won't forget
embrace it, use it as a shield to protect you

>>78572630
Both are Circassian.