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Do female expats have a harder time living abroad than male

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Do female expats have a harder time living abroad than male expats?

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36014901

>When Sheila Taylor moved from the UK to Brazil for work in 2014, she says that in terms of women's equality she often felt as if she had gone back in time to the 1950s.
>Ms Taylor, a writer and photographer who swapped London for Rio de Janeiro for two years, says she was forced to confront male chauvinism that the UK had given up decades ago.

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>After the tech bubble burst in Israel in 2002, Lisa Goldman was broke and desperate for work when an acquaintance approached her about a job with the Japanese branch of a global finance business.
>In regard to building a personal life in the Japanese capital, she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women.
>Ms Goldman, now in her 40s, says: "The few single Western women I know in Tokyo seemed to have resigned themselves to being single forever.
>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.

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>Allison, a 36-year-old Canadian, has lived in Switzerland for 11 years as a communications consultant.
>Allison says she has encountered several sexist situations, such as preparing reports that had to be presented by male colleagues "just so that the client would listen", and being mistaken for a personal assistant.
>She adds that she has found it to be normal in job interviews in Switzerland for women to be asked about personal details of their lives, including their relationship status, and any plans to start a family.
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>Ashley moved from Toronto in Canada to the Saudi capital Riyadh for several months in 2015 to open a research unit at a medical school.
>She found that she and her male colleague, who had also been sent from Canada, were not permitted to work in the same office.
>But what she found hardest to cope with was the fact that as a woman she couldn't move around unencumbered, both in reference to access to transport and what she could wear.

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>In the country of Georgia, in the Caucasus region on the edge of Europe and Asia, US expat Caroline Sutcliffe says she gets "a lot of unwanted attention, simply because I'm a foreigner and female".
>She adds: "There is a significant lack of respect from men towards my skills, my values, and my vision."
>However, Ms Sutcliffe is actually working hard to improve matters, as she runs a non-government organisation which promotes women's rights in Georgia and neighbouring Armenia and Azerbaijan.
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Reading this makes me want every single one of these women to die.
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What goes through the minds of these people?
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>>78515826
>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains
Audibly laughed.
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>>78515826
Generally yes, obviously.
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Why is it that I've never come across a decent blog post or article from an expat? It's always whiny nonsense with no level of cultural insight. Depressing that these people get to live abroad and you don't.
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>>She adds that she has found it to be normal in job interviews in Switzerland for women to be asked about personal details of their lives, including their relationship status, and any plans to start a family.

Yea because workers love it when they hire a female and then she decides to have a baby and get 9 months off while still getting payed.
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dumb bitch, sad she didn't got raped and murdered
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>>78516054
>It's always whiny nonsense with no level of cultural insight.
Home is where the heart is. These people go places and are unhappy things are different from what they are accustomed to. What did they expect?
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>move to a third world country
>they don't have first world philosophies

wow wtf
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>>78516198
Japan and Switzerland aren't 3rd world.
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>>78516214
I reckon they are yeah
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>>78516181
I don't know. True cultural exchange is such a fascinating topic - to go to another country where people see things differently and grasp how their society works, and how they think. Instead, people only seem to care about fucking, or using surface-level observations to justify their political beliefs.
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>>78515826
Why do these uppity first worlds come to third wolrd countries with high expectations? Pls stay in your """perfect""" countries and leave us the fuck alone. We don't want our cultures infested with your sjw mindset
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>>78515826
I had no idea women's lives were so difficult
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They are feminist slutwhores. Of course they have a hard time. Foreign women are always better than that trash.
>sexism
top lel
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> Caroline Sutcliffe
>called an expat but runs an NGO to cuck the Caucasus region. Probably works for the CIA
>She adds: "There is a significant lack of respect from men towards my skills, my values, and my vision."
>MY SKILLS, MY VALUES, MY VISION.
What an unbearable cunt.
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>>78515826
>she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women.
Can't blame them.
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>>78515826
>she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women.
>Ms Goldman, now in her 40s
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>>78515826
>people that don't want to marry me are sexist
top kek
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>Ashley moved from Toronto in Canada to the Saudi capital Riyadh for several months in 2015 to open a research unit at a medical school.
>is shocked that women have fewer rights in Saudi Arabia

The only ignorant person in this situation is her.
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>>78516521
> moving to a new country without researching its culture an try to understand it first
Some people are fucking mental
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>>78515826
40s Japanese women can't get husband/bf in western countries too.
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>>78516288
it's not just SJWs it's cucksertitives coming to Colombia and Brazil and complaining about Bunda and too much sex-culture
"hurr durr i hate Carnival"
"WAHH The local women are whores except my local wife of course"
*refuses to learn spanish/Portuguese
*Whines about not getting American products for cheap
*Crys about gays
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>>78516592
Old Asian women are flocking to Black american men
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>>78516617
I've been here for a month and i have never heard any western guy complain about bunda or too much sex culture lmao
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>>78516693
it's married men and single women
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>Leave Angloland expecting equality
>Realize the rest of the world is a bit more traditional
Happens every time. Women in anglo countries have absolutely no idea how lucky they are
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why don't they just FUCK OFF?
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>>78516054
Because all sexpats are LOSERS
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>>78516789
Kinda sad that he sees her as nothing more than a stereotype desu.
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>>78516693
complaining about sex culture is for literal asexual low test cucks. Btw, where are you from?
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>>78516646
I've never seen any one irl.
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>>78516262
Well said anon.
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>>78515829
>>Ashley moved from Toronto in Canada to the Saudi capital Riyadh for several months in 2015 to open a research unit at a medical school.
>>She found that she and her male colleague, who had also been sent from Canada, were not permitted to work in the same office.
>But what she found hardest to cope with was the fact that as a woman she couldn't move around unencumbered, both in reference to access to transport and what she could wear.

honestly, what the fuck did she expect?
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>>78515826
>personal details of their lives, including their relationship status, and any plans to start a family.
I know you're not supposed to engage in this, but concerning smaller companies at the very least, can't people understand that they don't want to pay you for pregnancy leave the minute you're hired?

You could almost bankrupt yourself over that shit.
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>>78516871
to be fare it's mostly Chinese but Koreans and Japanese too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc4g65VdaOY
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>>78515829
>However, Ms Sutcliffe is actually working hard to improve matters, as she runs a non-government organisation which promotes women's rights in Georgia and neighbouring Armenia and Azerbaijan
This actually makes me mad, leave other countries alone and stay in the west if you want to live like the west
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>>78516919
Islam is feminist
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>>78516835
France and I love Colombia so far, I'm in Cartagena atm
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>>78515826
>she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women
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>Post-wall roastie rage
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>>78515826
>be born a woman in a first world country
>complain about men being men in an effort to gain social capital from their "victimhood"

this meme needed to die years ago but people let is persist
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>bongs pay the government to write feminist propaganda
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>>78515826
All non-white countries, should make it as difficult as possible for white women expats. This includes sexual assault, like they do in India.

They are responsible for the destruction of the West by importing non-whites, and they should be repaid at every turn.
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>>78515826
>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.

What's even wrong with this?

What emotion(s) are wrapped up in her desire to scream?
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>>78518386
my sister unironically cancelled her trip to india because of that reputation, she ended up going to japan and hong kong
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>>78518396
The fact she wasn't the centre of male attention and couldn't get what she wanted by whining about feminism like back home.

Here's a sampling of the mindset.
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>>78518459
That's way better
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>she often felt as if she had gone back in time to the 1950s.
oh
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>>78515826
>she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women.
>Ms Goldman, now in her 40s
old shekike can't comprehend why men don't want to date aging feminist hags... shaking my head to be honest family
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>>78518463
>these men wouldn't have been to nab a date back home if they'd been a calendar
What a judgmental cunt. Like I get where she's coming from, but when she drowns out her ideas in this drivel, it's hard for me not to think of her as fucking jealous.
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>>78518510
>UK
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>>78515826

i see random youtube expats in japan talk about/date jap guys often.

literally the only secret is to be good-looking and youthful, which is what 95% of guys want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPiWu4Y2nCc
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>>78518535
White women love interracial relationships when they benefit them, they chimp out at yellow fever with extreme jealousy. The Western woman has unparalleled entitlement.
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>>78515826
This is what stopped me from being an expat, they all seem really ignorant and unhappy and have a horrible reputation.
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>>78518363
PAY THE LICENSE
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This is good, all women should go to the third world and see how women are actually oppressed for real in those countries.

Might give them a newfound respect for how they're treated in the west.
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>>78518565
>White women love interracial relationship
They really don't.
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>>78518463
>>78518565

i'm pretty sure she's in her 30s which is hard as fuck for women unless they retain their youthfulness.
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> REEEEEE WHY WON'T THE WORLD ADAPT TO ME
The first rule of being abroad is that YOU should adapt to the local culture.
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>>78518588
I see why western female complain about their men though. I will date with strong black men if I was surrounded by sissy whiny faggots like you.
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brazilians are uncivilized amazon barbarian. Don't come to Japan. Brazilians in Japan already are criminals
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>>78516789
Winston is based tho
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>>78518688
They complain about those too, it's also a bit of catch-22 because masculinity can be a bit of a dirty word and gender roles etc but then they don't like 2
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>>78518710
I hope this guy is taking the piss, that's kind of defeats the point of being Neo-Nazi
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>Do female expats have a harder time living abroad than male expats?

>Is this a question anyone ever gave a fuck about?

>No!

>So next time, joins us as we forget our idiotic questions and just play indiana jones movies!
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>>78518607
It's even lower in Europe... at least for whites
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160107132103/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171776_369571.pdf
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>>78518666
Satan knows
women are a meme
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>>78516054
there's this French (or Quebecois maybe?) cartoonist who did a few good comics about working in various asian countries.
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>>78515826
>Go to another country
>Get surprised that they have other cultural values and expect different things from women
>Complain about it like a little bitch

So much for tolerance and multiculturalism.
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>>78518463

That was a satisfying read.

desu it's not only in Japan. Pretty much every non-western country is like this. Western guys outside of the western world are valued for their warmth and niceness, even with middle eastern or indian women.

Only in the western world is warmth and being nice taken for granted and a turn off.
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>>78516092
This
Also as a man i also get asked those questions so go fuck yourself lol, the fucking SWITZERLAND is a backwards country now ? It's 1000 times less backwards than USA those people are fucking retarded, of course employers need to know this
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>>78519834
>in non-western countries everyone assumes you're going to be an out-going romantic chad because you are a White Western person
>not outgoing or a chad
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>>78520055

It's easy to be a chad when the women are receptive from the get go.
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>>78515826
Yes. I see a foreign man and I assume, unless he's a nigger or a spic, that he's a kindly tourist taking in the best attractions of my country. I see a foreign woman and assume she's some dumb cunt that's lost her husband.
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these sort of things make me have less sympathy and instead an increased dislike of them. they're upper middle-class 'expats' whose job prospects take them around the world and they still whine about muh sexism

the commies are right about 'liberal feminism'
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>>78516262
Good post
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So.. this mean christmas cake women can get a bf and not treat like trash?

hoooray,I'm going to Europe in next year.
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>>78518463
>those levels of insecurity
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>>78515826
>Reading Comic LO on the subway

Based!
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>>78518463
That's weird to read, in high school most of my male asian friends had a thing for me
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I remember a while ago someone posted an article written by a british woman about her trip to Spain. She complained the whole time about shops closing during siesta and how people there don't go out of their way to suck off every tourist they see. What is wrong with anglo women?
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>>78515829
>Ashley moved from Toronto in Canada to the Saudi capital Riyadh
Tip top fucking kek
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>>78520552
eternal anglo goes anywhere, thinks they own the place
what else is new?
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>>78515829
Great. So the cunt left the west to go ruin other countries. Guarantee she's a kike. Hope the Slavs rape her to death.
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>>78515826
>In regard to building a personal life in the Japanese capital, she found that neither Japanese men or male Western expats were interested in dating Western women.
>Ms Goldman, now in her 40s, says: "The few single Western women I know in Tokyo seemed to have resigned themselves to being single forever.
Wow, those Japs are neglect rapists!
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>>78520164
What if men can fuck around without a care they should too.
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>>78521372
t. virgin manbaby
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>>78521397
you're probably sarcastic but I agree, and mostly they actually can. they're making more money than 95% of people out there with their overeducation, global job prospects and interconnectedness

restrictive cultural norms often don't even apply to well-off expats as much as to natives

this shit only makes other upper middle class white women and their beta cuck upper middle class orbiter nerds whine about how bad upper middle class white women have it
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>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.
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>>78522026
>3d girls are now actively jealous of 2d

great timeline
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>>78515826
>go abroad
>"people have different cultures, REEEEEEE"
I want these people to die so badly
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>>78516198
>cuckold philoshophies
Fixed for you.
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>>78520552
Pampered womans by the cuckolds.
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>>78516054
Anyone who naturalizes only talks to natives, really. The ones who write a lot to back home haven't really melted in yet and maybe never will. If I were to move somewhere I'd learn the language ASAP.
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>>78520164
The more I see and hear from women in tech the more I realize they bitch about the slightest of things and most importantly imagine a lot of the shit. It's like a mental illness, a paranoia that the society supports. Like I doubt presentations in Switzerland had to be presented by a man unless they had ME customers.
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FUCK THAT DYKE, people are getting stabbed in droves by favelados, getting their shit stolen left and right, you can't have a decent time on the streets and enjoy the public spaces because Brazil has more homicides a year than Syria has war victims.

And then this stuck up GRANNY comes to Brazil, FUCKING BRAZIL, to bitch about sexism? Is that really a priority issue? What does she know about the country and why doesn't she simply go away if that's a deal breaker? Hope she gets the next stab instead of an innocent and unretarded Brazilian passerby.
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>>78515826
Gee, every other country isn't a copy of the west. WHO WOULD HAVE FUCKING THOUGHT.

It's so amazing sometimes, how detached people are.
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>I suffer from being female
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>>78523270
If you want to know how those women operate, read this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160903012325/http://degree180.com/8686-2/

Long but worthwhile.
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>>78515826
Why is whatever she endured something specific to expats? It sounds like she encountered local culture and found that it was not like back home?
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>>78523093
Cala a boca, otário, chorão de merda.
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>>78518653
>western women
>youthfulness

There is no way they can compete with asian neoteny.
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Anglo women are fucked in the head. Seriously, feminism is already bad here but in your countries it has become some sort of quasireligious cult.
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>>78515826
>>78515829

these pampered whores deserve the mudslime plague that will ravage the western world soon. they are the biggest enablers, they are the first ones who will suffer. they have lost their self-preservation instincts entirely.
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>>78518463
wasn't her a fat cunt?
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>>78523378
I had a suspicion it'd be an article about that whole operation before I clicked. It's quite eye opening.
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>>78523378
what horrendous beasts
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>>78522971
women are more sensitive in the first place and these are well-educated, relatively rich white women i.e. the most pampered demographic. makes sense they lose their shit even though they live better than 99% of humanity
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>>78523860
really? is bad in Austria ?
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>>78515826
>all women are sjw and feminazi

why so hate against women in this thread. do you autist virgins really think that it was women who created all this bullshit? and that they benefit from it?
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>>78515826
>>78515829
>go to different country
>the culture is different there
really makes you think.

>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.
kek
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>>78524210
Of course.
For all government jobs there is a women quota, there a ton of bonuses for women in everything. The government pays you for going to technical university, but only when you are female of course.

Shit like that.
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>>78524279
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>>78524279
Yes, it was Western men that enabled them, but the West has gone so far that it's liberalness that it's divorced from it's roots. What, do you expect a massive male awakening any time soon?
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>>78515826
But that's what happens when you move to "traditional"-type countries. Why on earth would you go to a latino area and not expect male chauvinism? Machismo is like 99% of our culture.
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>>78515826
>she often felt as if she had gone back in time to the 1950s.
Has she ever been in 1950s?
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>>78518463
And people say that fembots incels don't exist
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Lol womyn
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This is a fundamental difference between men and women - western men go abroad more for a sense of adventure than for the economic benefits while western women go abroad to find better economic opportunities.

Obviously the former are more open to stepping outside of their comfort zone.
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>>78527771
>western men go abroad more for a sense of adventure than for the economic benefits
[Citation needed]
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>>78523535
Belos argumentos, trombadinha malcheiroso.
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Ok, the one in Switzerland is being a bitch, it's not that bad. Come on.

Also,

>travel the world alone as a female
>expect every civilization to be feminist

I really, really hate dumb people. Before going you should study about the cunt or at least ask for someone who lives there.

>Brazil

You deserve it. What a stupid fucking idea.
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>>78527771
>tfw going abroad for better economic opportunities
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>>78515826
>BBC
>April 2016
Go away.
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I have only read a part. Expats are elitist faggots. They should all fuck off back to their home countries.
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>>78529037
this. leaving your country should be a crime.
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>>78522026
based japan
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>>78515826
>brazil
>sexism
are you serious? she should thank god she is still alive
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxJ9TBMoAL4

>Guys... China was NOT what I expected!!
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>>78518864
>laughter in china
that is an interesting observation.
i have a chinese colleague who laughs a lot for no apparent reason.
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>>78515826
>>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.
God bless Japan.
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>>78515826
Women were a mistake
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>Go to non-western countries
>Go to fucking SAUDI ARABIA
>Why don't they behave like westerners?

Was it autism?
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>However, what she says made her "want to scream" was that she would see men openly reading pornographic comic books on underground trains.
I'm so sorry desu
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>>78530499
enjoy アク禁
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>>78518835
That paper was only about Britain. And the percentage isnt even lower
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>>78523535
Cala a boca, seu corno.
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>>78530160
What's wrong with this video? She seems pretty cool. She travels with her bf, so not a lonely cat lady sexpat like in the articles above. Also, she comes to the conclusion that China is great and it is much better than what she expected it to be. They're fit, outdoorsy people, that seem like they'd be fun to hang out with.

What exactly is your problem then?
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>>78530850
Her voice, for starters.
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>>78524592
>The government pays you for going to technical university, but only when you are female of course.
This isn't "gender equality." How the hell did feminist manage to convince the public to go along with this?
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>>78526455
RARE
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>>78530883
She sounds normal. What, do you have a bias against this way of speaking because of all the "dumb slutty valley girl" hollywood memes?

Concentrate on the content of her words.
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>>78518463
This reads like like a hilarious parody.
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>>78531055
Not him but valley girl accents are disgusting. They sound like they are perpetual brats.
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>>78531055
It's annoying.
"You're supposed to, like, shower over the toilet?! Disgusting!"
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>>78518463
>But in Asia, dating rules defy all logic or evolutionary law.
progressivism is the ideologically root of such a an attitude. Feminism and progressivism are intimately tied btw.
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>>78531185
Tbh it is pretty disgusting. What was she supposed to say? Fawn over how "great" the bathrooms in the hostels were? The point of her vlog is to let people how traveling is, and the restrooms they're likely gonna have to use are very important for this.
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>>78530343
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>>78531263
They're shitty, but she comes across as stuck-up, as if the entire world must be designed perfectly for her. Instead, she could've just noted it as something curious or funny, and the video would've been the better for it. See link below for a good example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPne-q4ynts
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>>78518463
>Be huge judgmental cunt with a permanent imaginary cross to bear and over the age of 30.
>Why won't the native Japanese men who hate forward women and think over 25 is too old date me?
>Why do the western men who clearly only went to Japan for their yellow fever and to date a non bitch.
How can these people be so dense?
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>>78515826
>be feminist dike
>move to third world country
>complain aobut 'opression'

Western women, everyone
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>>78516573
They obviously don't care about gaining any kind of cultural understanding. They just wanna live abroad somewhere (anywhere) so they can brag about it to their hipster friends and gain hipster cred.
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>>78531409
Lol no. If something's gross there's nothing wrong with saying so. There's a reason people here laugh at designated shitting streets, cause they're disgusting. Stop pretending you're somehow this really humble, considerate, thoughtful person. You're an american, nobody's gonna believe you.
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>>78532307
It's not being considerate, it's just not giving a fuck. Why go to China and expect anything but the utter worst in sanitation? Might as well laugh at it instead of getting mad, I barely shower anyway.
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>>78530160
To be honest, family, this is a better example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uX6ItrqsIw
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>>78533438
Irish cunt?
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>>78533452
Yes.
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>>78515826
>this article is business related topic
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>male chauvinism
You mean men behaving like men? It's 2017, why is this even allowed?

It's time for America to come and rain 1000000tons of gender equality to end this menace once and for all!
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>>78522971
>>78524132
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>>78538769
Context?
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>>78539098
She worked in the tech industry as a social media marketing whatever the fuck. At a conference, she overheard two guys having a private conversation, making silly sex jokes about forking and dongles. She took a photo of them and whined about it on Twitter for their sexual joke, and eventually got one of them (or maybe both?) fired. Drama ensued, and then I guess the negative attention she was getting compelled her employer (SendGrid) to fire her.
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>>78518510
Japanese education
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>>78518835
>It's even lower in Europe... at least for whites
It's going to be lower for the largest group. Do you even math?
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