Eastern Europe is catching up, slowly but surely. In our lifetimes,

nah we will just all move west

>Eastern Europe is catching up
>average wage in Slovenia is the same like in the previous year, while in Czechia it is even lower

There is a glass ceiling we will never break, as long as our economies are not innovative, but just sources of cheap workforce for western Europe. That's called the middle income trap.

>>78353230
>In our lifetimes, we might see them prosper and even become more powerful than the Western Europe.

All Eastern European countries are suffering severe brain drain and low birth rates.

Economy in western europe is grown just little slower than in the east and the west has a huge lead. Eastern europe won't be catching for many decades if trend keeps pretty much similar

>>78353378
We also suffer from 2 million Ukrainian immigrants who flooded our country.

>>78353422
Czech republic lost in 2015 114718805 billion euro in dividends.

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>>78353230
>that Slovakia
what the fuck? Why?

Btw, even if our wages are already as high as in the west, we won't be able to say that we have caught up with them, because we need to take into account the years when our wages were much lower, so we accumulated much less wealth than western Europeans did (and it was spent on infrastructure mostly).

That's the reason, why living standards in Greece or Portugal are still higher than in Eastern Europe, even though our salaries:prices/GDP per capita (especially PPP) are already higher than in these countries. But still, they managed to accumulate much more in infrastructure they built in the 80s/90s, when they were way ahead of us.

>>78353639
They have a lot of car factories. Automotive industry is a profitable business, wages are relatively high, even for the simple workers.

Also, Bratislava is basically a satellite town of Vienna, a lot of Slovaks work in Austria and live in Slovakia, so it raises their wages.

>>78353619
>114718805 billion
yea I went stupid there not billion

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>>78353639
we are supposed to be richest EE by 2025

>>78353719
But the average wage dropped very significantly between 2016 and 2017, which is why I'm surprised, especially that their gdp keeps growing.

>>78353758
I want to see pepik butthurt when it happens. Especially those pepiks, who advocated dissolution of Czechoslovakia because:

>hurr durr, we don't want to feed these poor Slovaks anymore!

>>78353789
It's fucking wikipedia, man, these average wage numbers can be edited by everyone, I know that Hungarians change numbers for Romania and Slovakia to lower (Poles do the same for Russia).

>>78353833
we may pay a price for it though, our PM keeps sucking EU dick, we accepted 40 refugees now

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>>78353789
>poortugal getting poorer
>>78353789
>>78353639
wage != gdp ppp
We have the 3rd highest wage in eastern Europe, but we have fairly high taxes and things cost more which means lower gdp ppp.
Also this >>78353889

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>>78353230
>tfw it was 1000 in 2013
thank you P*Tin

>>78353889
wikipedia autism battles, lmao it happens in lot of articles regarding kingdom of hungary, Slovaks changing names of cities to Slovak ones and Huns to Hungarian ones

>>78353639
I gues these GDP/capita gives some idea but not the whole story.
My gf is Latvian and she earned 1000€ working as a marketing and communications manager. And there it was a great wage
Here she earns like 5500€ + bonuses I'm not even sure how much. Ofc not the exact same job

>>78353952
Lol, it wasn't.

>>78353833
Well well we have little golden age here in 2015 we grew 4,3 but in reality we grew 5,3 same thing happened this year 2017 they predicted 2,7 in reality now it is 3,4.
Bonus our ministry planed in 2016 negative budget guess what at the end we had surplus of 2% of our GDP.
And our wages grew by 5% but because it is not enough for employees it did speed to 8 %.

>>78353971
With 2013 rate it actually was

>>78353918
wow, I thought V4 is adamant in this matter

I don't think the refugee question has anything to do with your growth, desu, you grew when you were against the quotas too.

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>>78353971
Actually it was around >30000 rubles with exchange rate 1$ - 32 rub

>>78354051
840 is still not 1000.

Russia was never richer than Poland. The world would collapse otherwise.

>>78354048
https://spectator.sme.sk/c/20616150/slovakia-pledges-to-host-60-more-relocated-refugees.html

>>78354073
>Russia was never richer than Poland
KEK'D

>>78354080

> that it is not a new commitment but a voluntarily adopted one from the past.

That's ok, I guess. I wish we had such a reasonable government like yours, not the bunch of populists we have now.

>>78353889
>I know that Hungarians change numbers for Romania and Slovakia to lower (Poles do the same for Russia)
source?

>>78354106
When was it richer then?

>>78354123
KC experiences.

>>78354009
>Bonus our ministry planed in 2016 negative budget guess what at the end we had surplus of 2% of our GDP.

That's not anything to be proud of. It means, that a road was not built or some buildings were not renovated, because your ministry couldn't plan your budget properly. Basically, it means, that the government took money from people in taxes, but wasn't competent enough to spend them.

Having an unplanned budget surplus is not good at all, in contrary to what people usually believe.

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>>78354165
throught it's history since muscovy to 1917 and from 1991 to 2008

>>78354264
our east is Ukraine tier but our west is really rich

>>78353968
Life in Finland is more expensive than in Latvia, though.

>>78354267
lol, we're talking about wealth per capita, not nominal wealth

Russians were always poorer than Poles. Especially in the 1990s, when Russia was stuck in a permanent depression, while Poland was growing rapidly.

>>78354264
what's that supposed to be?

Good for them.

Leadership by France, Germany etc only brought us refugees and """"banking""" crisis.

See this map for further details.

Light Blue -Neo EU
Dark Blue- Non EU countries who are still European
Red- Non-European countries who will be resettled by Southern Euros and Slavics.

>>78354267
>since muscovy to 1917
lol'd
>from 1991 to 2008
doubtful, source please

>>78354322
It's gross wages I guess.

Taxes in Poland are insanely high.

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>>78354348
Forgot pic.

>>78354309
>Ukraine tier

You don't seem to realize what "Ukraine tier" really means.

>>78354318
Not that much due to euro it used to be a lot cheaper.
Like grocery are almost the same. Alcohol is cheaper that's about it that comes to mind which is notably cheaper. Otherwise more or less the same price level.

>>78354348
Eastern Europeans in power will be even worse for Portugal.

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>>78354423
portugal is quite litteraly eastern europe tier
must run in the family

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>>78354419
>Like grocery are almost the same.

wow, Latvia must be expensive as fuck then

but I checked it and seems that you're right

>>78354222
Heh that happened because we grew more than we believed not a fault of ministry that economy is doing so good plus half of surplus was euro money actually but shh.
End of story is look at our GDP to debt and at Poland and Slovak ones your growth is fueled by debt above 50 % whilst we at 37% managed to decrease it from 44%.

>>78354509
I like how Germans always complain how little they earn comparing to other western countries, but they forget to mention how low their prices are, so their purchasing power is insanely high.

That's how they rule the EU.

>>78354539
Yeah they fell for the euro meme.

>>78354423
>>78354509

Any change in management is good.

Portugal sold EVERYTHING we had to the EU.

Fishing, farming, industry, you name it. Everything that made us autonomous, they killed.

We're a Service and tourism based country now.

>>78354509
I am Portuguese

>>78354652
>Portugal sold EVERYTHING we had to the EU.

That's what happened everywhere in Eastern Europe too. Just unlike in Portugal, Germans kept the production going on in EE countries (they're located closer to Germany than Portugal and people are more hard-working probably), but under German brands and the profits go straight to German pockets.

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>>78354652
there there anon
>>78354509
da
eu sunt italian

>>78354561
Your growth is fueled by sucking the German cock :^)

But beware, now Poland got the American cock to suck, we will see whose cock is stronger soon!

>>78354715
>>78354735

Plus they got us in the Euro. Prices DOUBLED here. Not even joking. Bread double. Coffee doubled. Ask any Portuguese.

I'd much rather be in a union with Easter Europe and send the rest of Western Europe to shit if we ACTUALLY cooperate which other, not how the EU is.

>>78354860
desu the idea of the euro isn't bad in itself but the economies are simply too different
too much too soon

>>78354860
>Ask any Portuguese.

protip: asking common people about economy doesn't give good results, they tend to exaggerate problems and forget about advantages

>>78354860
Eastern Europe can't give you anything, because we don't produce anything on our own. Everything here is owned by westerners.

Btw, the biggest supermarket chain in Poland is Portuguese-owned (Jeronimo Martins). But it's already deeply rooted in Polish culture and collective consciousness, so everyone think it's Polish (they operate under a Polish brand "Biedronka" here).

>>78354918
I know.

But it was great for France and Germany.

>>78354961

Tell me advantages of the Euro. Because it had a crisis if I remember.

If I tell you some things about Portugal, you wouldn't believe it.

>>78353230
Honestly, the best we can hope for is the West fucking up and stooping to our level, not the other way around.

>>78353230
>Lowest wage in Europe while having most fertile soil and somewhat decent industrial capacity
Slava ukraini!!!11

>>78355057
>Btw, the biggest supermarket chain in Poland is Portuguese-owned (Jeronimo Martins).

That dude doesn't even pay its taxes here. He moved it to the Netherlands. We see 0 (zero) of that.

>>78355198
what's the ukrainian football song they're like
>huilu putin
and some 90s eurodance background i've been trying to find it

>>78355198
Geroyam Slava!

>>78355161
>Tell me advantages of the Euro

1. You don't need to exchange your currency every time when going abroad (and lose a little money on the spread between buy/sell prices)
2. Your economy is more attractive for foreign investments (because the investors don't need to change their money and they don't have to deal with the floating exchange rate they have to take into account in their budgets in other countries)
3. You have lower interest rates (especially loans)
4. You don't have to deal with the rate going down every time your country is in a crisis (for instance, in 2007 1 EUR was worth about 3,5 PLN, now it's 4,2 PLN and in 2009 it was almost 5 PLN)
5. Your country is perceived as more stable, civilized and European
6. More tourists from the Eurozone countries want to come to your country

Don't care honestly, as I'll keep living off of social security for the rest of my life. Right now I'm planning on buying a new gaming computer, which will take me anywhere between 3 and 5 months to raise the money for. It still beats the 40 hour work week though.

>>78355198
ukraine started really good too
its economy was 3 times bigger than poland's at the beginning but now it's so behind it's not even funny
was it russiautism?

>>78355161
>If I tell you some things about Portugal, you wouldn't believe it.

What do you mean?

>>78355198
old rusty soviet industry is not important nowadays

>>78355264
they sell quite a lot of Portuguese food, though, it's imported from Portugal and Poles like it

>>78355433
>its economy was 3 times bigger than poland's at the beginning

lel it wasn't, Ukraine was slightly richer than Poland in 1990, but not that much

Portugal is slavic I tell you.

Just listen to this Slavic bros. What does it sound ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhv_VSJmOx4

>>78355507
Great Polish accent

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>>78355507
portuguese is slavic latin
romanian is latin slavic
da?
it does remind me of polish tho

>>78355423
AKA Euro masks how shit your country actually is and allows you to take irresponsible denbts

>>78355507
sounds like dutch and slav

>>78355507
sounds pshpshpsh, so pretty much like Polish

>>78355598
why are you so butthurt about Slovakia, are you one of these pepiks: >>78353833

>>78355423
>1. You don't need to exchange your currency every time when going abroad (and lose a little money on the spread between buy/sell prices)

That's great! Except nobody goes abroad here, it's to expensive. Unless you count Spain.

>2. Your economy is more attractive for foreign investments (because the investors don't need to change their money and they don't have to deal with the floating exchange rate they have to take into account in their budgets in other countries)


Doesn't mean anything. Portugal was being bought by the Chinese before the Euro and still is. Our power and water, it's no longer Portuguese.

>3. You have lower interest rates (especially loans)

Doesn't mean shit, we're shit status since 2008 and will forever remain so.

>4. You don't have to deal with the rate going down every time your country is in a crisis

What does that matter if the consequences are still felt anyways ?

>5. Your country is perceived as more stable, civilized and European


Norway and Switzerland are both out of the EU, and the Euro.

> Anonymous 08/15/17(Tue)20:51:47 No.78355423▶
>>78355161 (You)
>Tell me advantages of the Euro

1. You don't need to exchange your currency every time when going abroad (and lose a little money on the spread between buy/sell prices)
2. Your economy is more attractive for foreign investments (because the investors don't need to change their money and they don't have to deal with the floating exchange rate they have to take into account in their budgets in other countries)
3. You have lower interest rates (especially loans)
4. You don't have to deal with the rate going down every time your country is in a crisis (for instance, in 2007 1 EUR was worth about 3,5 PLN, now it's 4,2 PLN and in 2009 it was almost 5 PLN)
5. Your country is perceived as more stable, civilized and European
6. More tourists from the Eurozone countries want to come to your country

I'll give you this one.

>>78355507
true, when I heard Portuguese tourists on the train talking I thought they were Slavs first.

>>78355663
This has literally nothing to do with Slovakia. Euro is okay for Slovakia since their economy is reasonably similar to Germany for which Euro is tailored. It is still a potential deathtrap since you give up control of your currency and you can see how well that turned out for the Greeks. Also, if you are in the Euro club, it seems they can demand money from you to pay for other countries dailings like the aforementioned.

>>78355749
>hurr durr doesn't mean anything just because it's shit

That's not a real argument. Sure, euro has its flaws too, but we can't say that it doesn't have any advantages. A lot of countries are doing very well with the euro (like aforementioned Slovakia or Estonia).

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>>78355749

What the fuck happened with my post.

>>78355869
> Slovakia since their economy is reasonably similar to Germany

lol, was it supposed to be a sacrasm?

>>78355927
Autism

>>78355892
Prices have skyrocketed in Estonia since they joined euro, but wages have been stagnant. Purchasing power have lowered since the prices rise more than the wages

Euro is benefiting only Germany

>>78355939
Guess what Slovakia's number 1 export is, Wojciech

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>>78355564
>>78355590
>>78355608
>>78355613
>>78355814

>>78353719
>They have a lot of car factories. Automotive industry is a profitable business, wages are relatively high, even for the simple workers.
not for long
fuck cagers.

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>>78356119
>>78356010

>>78356039
is he flipping us off or giving a thumbs up?

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>>78356242
It's a mockery of our Royal Family, Duarte Pio.

The dude is kinda... special.

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>>78356242
>>78356382

>>78356382
>>78356419
habsburg spain special or just weird?

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>>78355198
>pic related was made by ukrainians during soviet time, it's the biggest airplane ever made

what went wrong ivan ?

>>78355423
ur dum

>>78356032
lol, what does it have to do? Slovakian economy is based on assembling cars for little money, German economy is based on INVENTING these cars for big money, that's a crucial difference.

>>78356010
>Prices have skyrocketed in Estonia since they joined euro,

They skyrocketed when you started to buy cheap booze in Estonia en masse. And you did, because you didn't have to change currency every time while coming to Estonia.

>>78356571
It's usefulness is greatly overshadowed by it's production, operational and maintenance costs.
If such fuckhuge planes were profitable/useful they would be made by others. But now it's just cheaper to rent the single one that exists the one time within a century you actually need one.

>>78356668
>And you did, because you didn't have to change currency every time while coming to Estonia
Are you still living in the 90s just pay with the card or go to ATM. Bank takes 1% exchange rate

We've bought booze from Estonia since soviet times. Now the alcohol prices are almost that high it's not really worth it going there
Everything was a lot cheaper when they used EEK

>>78356630
Germans own the cars made in Slovakia. So while Slovaks make comparably little for "just" assembling them, they are still based on the same industry.

They sure as fuck aren't a southern shithole whose MO was to borrow money and dissolve the interest through inflation.

>>78356668
So? The effect is the same.

>>78356845
you'r right but the point is they are capable of making these things, why can't they have a country that function properly and is not poor as hell.

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>>78353230
>Eastern Europe is catching up, slowly but surely

>Portuguese make half of what Spaniards make
Wtf did they mean by this

>>78356862
>So? The effect is the same.

But Estonian markets have a bigger income now, so they can pay more to the workers and wages in Estonia grow.

>>78356862
>They sure as fuck aren't a southern shithole whose MO was to borrow money and dissolve the interest through inflation.

Well, but export-based economies are believed to benefit from having a floating currency rate, that's why Czechia or Poland refuse to adopt euro. So why would Slovakia, which has exactly the same type of economy Poland or Czechia do, would benefit from the euro more?

>>78356956
Don't worry, Ukraine, you're Eastern Europe too.

Just stop believing in Russia fairy tales about independence and strong domestic industry and let your industry be bought out by Germans.

>"East" Europe
shiggy diggy

>>78356900
>you'r right but the point is they are capable of making these things
With enough money poured into anyone is capable of doing that, even fucking Africa.
You're obviously not familiar how economies in warsaw pact countries functioned. Some industries operated at a loss.

>why can't they have a country that function properly and is not poor as hell.
Corruption deeply rooted within the minds of everyone starting from the common folk ending at the people in power for the last 100 years.

The most ironic thing is that right after the fall of Soviet Union Ukraine was much better off than Poland. But corruption got the best of them.

>>78357019
>But Estonian markets have a bigger income now, so they can pay more to the workers and wages in Estonia grow.
No it's the opposite. The wages haven't risen but the prices are German level. And now their total currency policy is out of their control which they could in normal circumstances would fix domestically. Unemployment has risen and economic growth slowed
Germany cucks all the smaller economies to make the monetary policy to make it serve their economic interests

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>>78357162
and inb4 some ameriturd starts regurgitating bullshit about muh EU gibs.
Poland joined EU in 2004.

>>78357019
>would benefit from the euro more?

It doesn't, it's just not hampered by it.

>>78356571
>what went wrong ivan ?

1. No more Cold war = no more demand for giant arsenal of weapons (seriously, the arms industry in SU was huge)
2. Homo sovieticus in capitalism
3. Farthest from Western Europe
4. Rule of the law is weak as fuck
5. No resources of strategic importance in Ukraine

>>78353230

The Brain Drain problem needs to be solved before that.

Good luck with that.

>>78355423
good post

the only thing is those lower interest rates caused huge debts in south
apart from that euro is 5/5 bretty gud

>>78355423
All outweighed by a huge con:
You can't control your inflation, which means you cannot control your economy.

Oops.

anything east of the rhine must genocided and given the the countries west of the rhine to colonize and to exploit

>>78355507
Polish/10

>>78357162
>With enough money poured into anyone is capable of doing that, even fucking Africa.
no ; europe, american even the ussr spend billions and billions on them for what result ?


>Corruption deeply rooted within the minds of everyone starting from the common folk ending at the people in power for the last 100 years.
>The most ironic thing is that right after the fall of Soviet Union Ukraine was much better off than Poland. But corruption got the best of them.

corruption is everywhere even in france, i don't think it's explain everything

>>78357364
You got that backwards

>>78357407
Czech republic is western and germanic

>>78355423
These are those same meme arguments they said to us and were dumb enough to fall for them (well not really since we didn't have a chance to vote)
Pretty much every economist who isn't EU spokesperson says it was a bad deal joining euro.
Sweden is doing much better since they have control over their monetary policies

>>78357263
Gibs is a push and the one of the main reasons of Polish/Czech/etc success. I don't see nothing wrong with that.

>>78357263
what happened in 2011?

>earning that much
I WISH, only make 4k €

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>>78354509

greeks as poor as gypies feelsbadman

>>78357385
Do people in France kill each other/ have someone imprisoned over not paying bribe money? Because that's what was/is happening in Ukraine.

>>78357468
No. Gibs are ultimately detrimental as they skew the market.

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>>78357498
>i only make 4k

>>78357364
you just finish mein kampf kiddo ?

>>78357385
man, corruption here and in france like norwegian mafia and italian.

It's rotten to the core.

>>78353230
God I hope so. Western Europe is in tatters because of unrestricted liberalism. They could help bring the continent back. Plus Im 2nd gen polish/slovak, so the concept makes me giggle.

>>78354918

lol the Euro is only good for competitive countries

i.e. Germany reaps all the benefits of euro while sucking off the rest of europe

its no coincidence they have the worlds largest trade surplus

germania delenda est

>>78357573
>Norwegian mafia
Uhhhhhh

>>78357468
Not really, "gibs" are just a small percent of our GDP. The main reason is free trade and free movement of people, services, goods and capital between EU countries.

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>>78357364
well said my aryiya brother
zieck heil!111 14/88 praise odin

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>>78357521
we're skyrocketing
superpower by 2020
now to get people to stay in the country

>>78357875
>that pic

stay away from amphetamines kids

>>78357911
no, Romania can't surpass Croatia

it's impossible

>>78357735
Eu gibs is not direct transfers from brussels to warsaw. For example they are sponsoring building and repairing highways in Poland which is cost colossal money.

>>78358063
romania has surpassed croatia a while back actually at gdp ppp tho

>>78353758
And we were supposed to surpass France's GDP per capita by 2015

Forecasts are shit, don't trust them

>>78355507
sounds like hungarian mixed with czech

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>>78358293
you get a hug too pedro

>>78358063
Won't take long.
Romania has somewhat functioning economy, Croatia has just tourism.
A single massive happening will be enough to put them down.

>>78358181
>For example they are sponsoring building and repairing highways in Poland which is cost colossal money.

You don't have to explain me how these things work. But that's what I said - this money, this "sponsoring" isn't really big, comparing to our GDP. The biggest profit of being in the EU is being in the free trade zone, not the EU funds.

>>78358228
This is sad. I don't have anything against Romania, but I simply can't believe it, I have a cognitive dissonance when I think that Romania could be richer than Croatia.

>>78358403
Croatia should conquer Slovenia to take over their industry then.

>>78358423
>I have a cognitive dissonance when I think that Romania could be richer than Croatia
y tho
we're a really large state which allows us to weather the brain drain somewhat
kinda like poland
doesn't help that only 60-70% of the population contribute to the gdp tho

>>78358511
>doesn't help that only 60-70% of the population contribute to the gdp tho

You have 30-40% of gypsies?

>>78358511
I've heard a while back that Romania has plenty of gold mines, but they sold them to Canada I think back when you were communist.
Is that true? Are you somehow benefiting from that?

>>78358511
Btw, I think Romania could become quite a touristy place just like Croatia or Bulgaria, I don't understand why Bulgaria can have such a big sea-related tourist industry, while Romania cannot. You have the same sea, don't you?

>>78353312
They are Central Europe

>>78354073
Moscow and st. Petersburg are wealthy citys, but the rest of the country is piss poor and it will never change.
Kek. I would drink my self to death if i happened to born in rural russia

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>mfw holding largest copper mines on the planet
we're truly king gypsy.

>>78358671
Romania's coast is a disgusting swamp. it's not scenic beaches like Varna and Burgas lmoa

>>78358727
It's not like Bulgarian beaches are pretty. Even Bulgarians often prefer to just go to Greece.

>>78358592
hah, no
it's the equivalent of gopniggs
memes aside gyppos are a small percentage
there are countries with both higher percentages and higher raw numbers
still too high tho
>>78358634
i know we sold a lot of shit but i dunno about gold
>>78358671
shitty management and quality
we have a small strip of sea with 2 months of season
and we have to compete with greece with 6 months and much higher standards
castles and vampires should be our thing but our neocommies have choosen a sheep to better represent the populace
>>78358727
pretty much
should be a side income

btw bulgaria is the best balkan country for vacations

nice beaches, good summers while nowhere as expensive as p*g disgusting croatia with their german tourists.

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>>78358705
did someone say copper?

>>78358831
bulgaria is for poor europeans
croatia is for wealthy europeans
you are just jelly

>>78358293
Get rid of your russia tier corruption and pay your taxes and then you guys have nice cunt. Same goes for all mediterranean cunts.

>>78358831
> black sea
> good resorts

Wojak... I...

>>78358942
I love Croatia and I can admit that that Pole is stupid and full of shit.

>>78358968
tits or gtfo

>>78358968
Don't be butthurt about Crimea.

And yeah, Black Sea can be even better than Mediterreanean Sea, because it's not that fucking hot. I don't see anything great in getting burnt in 40+ C

>>78353230
We are getting better but we've got centuries of rape and pillage to make up for, so we won't be catching up any time soon.

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>>78358968
>spending the few weeks of your free time a year in a fucking resort
american tier stupid and lazy

>>78353918
>40 refugees now
Yup, you Slovaks are total limp-wristed cucks so your country will probably collapse within a matter of months now.

>>78359022
yeah it has 30+ instead + trashy beaches

>sea resorts holiday
you don't really do this, right?

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>>78359022
>Don't be butthurt about Crimea.
meh
Azov is my poorfag choice.

>>78359213
do you prefer nude bathing?

fuck off

>>78359213
>Azov is my poorfag choice.

said to be the birthplace of Odin, as a side-note

>>78355269
It's "Putin huilo"

>>78359447
Thanks this was in related. Catchy song since I like eurodance. I thought it was a dead genre :DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08P7pyHBlq0
5/5 video straight from the 90s

>>78359694
>upa flag
dont let poles see it

>>78359372
justz give me a you to still my lust for your aids ridden body

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>>78359769
>>78359694
KURWA UKIE HOHOL SUBHUMANS

>>78359769
you know shit senpai
https://youtu.be/JDLhc4TnO78

>>78359832
calm down, calm down it's just a trashy song

>>78354051
fake map

>>78359832
i am not a hohol
>>78359880
what am i watching there?

>>78359832
Why do you slavs hate each other so much?
>>78359900
>trashy
I'm gonna play this whole week

>>78359880
wtf

>>78359946
>do you slavs hate each other so much
Because some slavs once killed others slavs.

>>78359937
>>78359995
Upa disco, Stefan bandera
everything's burning, axe in someone's back
Undressing a corpse, gonna get laid
smile from ear to ear on my face

hey pollack - feel the disgust, ukraine represents
gonna cut off your heels, now run on the scattered salt
ua ua mass murder, i'm making a ball out of someone's head
ua ua i've got a riddle for you, who's gonna fuck your mother tonight?
Petr, Andrij or Vladimir, who will sweeten her time here?
everybody oranges, everybody rapes and i'm dancing

>>78359946
banderisti genocide against poles in volhynia was one of most brutal in human history. butthurt is justified

>>78360249
this is worse than anything the Serbs ever made

>>78360167
stalin starved the whole eastern ukraine and they are still waving russian/soviet/imperial flags

>>78360296
>blaming russia for your own failures
cccp doesnt exist anymore

>>78360249
>>78360294
who's not dancing is a faggot
hands up, hands up!

one step forward, then one back
I'm twisting necks with all my strength
From your veins - i'm gonna drink
Entire village, we're turning into ashes.Oh!
Gonna wipe my boots with your mug.
Who's not jumping - he's a deadman
Cut off ears, putting them in bags
Afro wearing negro girl roller dances

dance dance dance like someone fucked up
when we're nailing your child to the wall
upa upa disco!

>>78360516
>>78360249
lets see when hohols will chimp out in poland
then germans will laugh and on top forcing you to take muzzies

>>78360516
Jesus Christ, this is completely nigger-tier

>>78360516
>>78360249
I'd rather not know the lyrics. The tune is good and slav language
t. eurodance pro

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>>78360605
save for the negro girl riding on rollers it's pretty much documenting what happened.
ukrainians are niggers born with the wrong skin color.

>>78360167
>some slavs once killed others slavs
germanicucks*
killed A LOT of
Turkic people you call "Ukrainian"

>>78360738
And you suck Russian dick.

>>78360638
yeah they have good beats
https://youtu.be/cH_g_WxM3hg

this one has this cypress hill flavour to it.
extremely passionate about wifebeating

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>>78353230
>Ukraine

wow, that's genuinely sad. even their purchasing power is low asf

>>78360894
>literally lower than Belarus

lol, I don't hate Ukis anymore, just feel bad for them

>>78360738
Literally never happened.

>>78361159
kys

>>78361213
no u

I mean you still believe in them Russian fairy-tails

>>78360894
>lower than fucking moldova
pathetic

Great
Death to western imperialist pigs

>>78360954
It's lower than Moldova. You know the country where epic sax guy is from.
Do they even have internet there?
>>78361369
Why so low tho? Ukraine has the most fertile soil. Could outcompete every other european country easily.
Don't they have a lot of missle factories or something too. Ukraine would have a lot of potential. Why not using it?

Moldova has wine?

>>78361336
now that's some /pol/ tier genocide denial

or, after you mentioned them, russian tier genocide denial

>>78361507
>Ukraine has the most fertile soil
This is a myth, btw.

>>78361540
I believe some validation is in order.
I mean there really is nothing to deny here.

>>78361543
Still better for agriculture than most of europe I bet
Even we have profitable agriculture despite shittiest conditions

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>this year you made what an Albanian makes in 14 years

>>78361540
don't reply, he's just some shitposter.
He's currently in the progress of shitting up /int/.

>>78361507
>Could outcompete every other european country easily.
not really, not nowadays

>>78354715
>people are more hard-working probably
Oi. We're not Spaniards. We don't sit on our asses.

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>the backbone of ukrainian nationalism is genocide denial
woah.
Ukraine is even less of a country than I previously thought.

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>>78361642
>there are greeks and albanians who made more money than you in the last year
Having a job sure sounds good

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>>78361898

>>78361780
ukraine has no identity
no wonder they are literally called borderland

>>78361780
>his country didn't genocide people

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>>78353230
>tfw even below average income though I'm a native

>>78363100
well buhuu