So why did the portuguese colony in Latin America stay as one

>>78323020
That's a pretty good question now that you mention it.

>>78323020
they kept monarchy after independence

We wanted to embarass the Spaniards by displaying our impressive length.

muh autonomous regions

>>78323020
Ask the viceroyalty of Peru, we had territory in Asia at that time

>tfw relevant
>tfw surrounded by irrelevancy
>tfw even your former colonizer is irrelevant

Portugal is a real nation state while Spain is more like an union of very different people. It was only logical for our colonies to inherit our regional autism.

because we killed alot of people for it

>>78323264
Pss this.

Brazil is the most important country in Latin America.

>>78323400
*South America

I wish Brazil bordered America

>>78323542
It soon will

>>78323542
Mexico exists.

>>78323580
Profound

>>78323264
>I don't have any idea so I will say illogical dumb shit which it's false by the way

>>78323020
Independence in the viceroyalties was planned, promoted and supported by the Eternal Anglo, the idea was not only separate Spain from Spanish America but divide the viceroyalties themselves, which were large territories with all kinds of resources, to make them weaker and smaller states with lack of some kind of resources.

>>78323020
>So why did the portuguese colony in Latin America stay as one big country
bloody tyranny ruling with an iron hand
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rebellions_and_revolutions_in_Brazil

>>78323663
>which is false
lmao sure

>>78323020
Because it was one big Kingdom and the others were separated Kingdoms. Also none where colonies but proper kingdoms within their empires.

and may i remind you OP and >>78323058
that your country is run by a federalist dictatorship as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
"FREEDUM" my ass, you guys don't even have direct vote

>>78323700
Are you still triggered over the war with Pedro II?

>>78323724
>lmao xd hurr durr

An union of very different people? Don't make me laugh regionalist scum, we are a more homogeneous country than France or Italy for example, but that you know, you only know of memes and faps

Basques colonized the americas for castile PFFFT AHAHAHAHAHAHAH BASKEKS

>>78323842
>"FREEDUM" my ass, you guys don't even have direct vote
Because the Founding Fathers didn't want Tyranny of the Majority AKA "Democracy".

they wanna be european soooo bad

>>78323542
Same

>>78323914
>Italy
Unified 200 years ago.
>France
Nopes. They literally destroyed all their regional cultures.

Also you can accept we are an union of different people without following a separatist movement or crying about the evil central gov, lumbreras.

>>78323264
Yeah, completely different people

>>78324154
Well for starters we have three nonmeme, perfectly alive regional languages and a pretty strong north/south and east/west division. Spain itself was born out of the union of different kingdoms on somewhat equal terms a la UK.

Our regions are not like different countries, that would be ridiculous, but Portugal is just a lot more homogeneus.

>>78323873
not at all
it's hard to remember the past when they keep doing so much shit currently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ6T7wDCnjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gojYOvGalK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQS6jNT2D7E

>>78324106
Que no tío, que he estado en Francia, y las diferencias étnicas entre Bretaña, Córcega, Languedoc, Alsacia y París son insalvables, putos abismos comparado a España. A ti te han lavado la puta cabeza con la mierda que somos un país de países y el hecho de que las comunidades tienen una gran autonomía y somos uno de los países más descentralizados del mundo, a diferencia de Francia que está fuertemente descentralizado, pero somos más, no, mucho más homogéneos que Francia.

>>78323020
>irrelevant
Mexico is as famous as USA. Literally all the world knows about this country.

anyways, OP is answered already
Portugal reigned supreme over their side of the border while the spanish "creoles" bickered and divided our side of the border. and we're happier that way while brazilians (as you can see on the catalog) aren't happy at all, locked into one single shitclusterfuck they want to but can't escape from. God save the Federations

>>78324154
Spain is an union of multiple kingdoms since 1492, which was centuries after Portugal was formed as a single nation (we have been this rectangle since 1249, with minor tweaks from the 1297 treaty).

>>78324351
Las diferencias culturales de turista nunca las vas a saber apreciar bien, y de etnias nadie ha dicho nada. De país de países tampoco, un país no tiene por qué ser un estado nación para funcionar. Te has marcadl muchos hombres de paja seguidos.

>>78323020
We have this thread every day. Either here or on /his/

>>78324351
a diferencia de Francia que está fuertemente centralizado*; y añado que aquí la gran excusa para los regionalismos es la lengua, basada en la retrógrada doctrina del siglo XIX de nación=lengua, además de que en Francia se suprimen las demás lenguas por todos los medios y aquí tenemos casos absurdos con el estado policial de la Generalitat en cuanto al uso del castellano

Our independence was planed by people with a nation project. The big territory still united because our nation fathers planed it. Brazil could be the biggest county in the world whit all the plan were followed.Exemple: The slavery could have finished in 1822 because D.Pedro I was an abolitionist, but he depended on the strength of the slaveholders to maintain the union. The fact we was a empire and not a kingdom too.

>>78323503
KEK! You are something, Mexico, but not enough to be more than the USA chair.

Because the Portuguese suck at colonization, while Spaniards, even though they also suck, they still don't suck as much as the Portuguese. Spanish America still has some good countries like Chile, Argentina and Uruguay. Brazil is just a giant nigger infested shithole.

I hate this thread why did I make it

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>>78324579
Let's see, the world's only low cost high tech manufacturer outside of East Asia vs soybeans, sopa de macaco and bananas

>>78324579
Your D. Pedro I, our D. Pedro IV, was a traitor. Brazil could've achieved a better and more prosperous independence if it weren't for that greedy bastard.

>>78324658
maybe you were genuinely curious
and we answered the curiosity already. the rest is shitposting and butthurt-posting

>>78324576
Se ve que sí, solo entiendes de memes y pajas

>>78324680
The freemasons here wanted Brasil to revert to a colony, retard.

>>78324624
>Brazil is just a giant nigger infested shithole.
That is not our problem and you have had 195 years to solve it.

>>78324662
Are you kidding, right?! It's can't be serious.

Forocochero que no soy indepe, coño ya, deja de inventarte cosas.

>>78324737
When was that and how are our Freemasons relevant for that time period (1820s)?

>>78324662
Brazil has its own tech. They don't need to be the sweatshop of nobody

>>78324737
>>78324823
They aren't too influent in Portugal, but they are the head of Brazil independence. José Do Patrocínio was a Carbonarian and introduced the Carbonaria here.
And decades after the freemasonry and the church kills the monarch and start a republic of mistakes.

>>78323020
The real answer is that Brazil population was concentrated nicely around the coast, and then they just expanded inland. The spanish colonies had too many geographical barriers that would have prevented them turning into a single country without being a geographical nightmare. This is why they were split into different colonies to start with

>>78324766
>>78324827
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/06/06/world-bank-brazil-is-the-worst-economy-in-latin-america/#6256e32029f0

>>78324827
Brazil could be better, but our politicians are totally aligned with external powers and don't give a shit to the country. Defense and technology don't give votes, so...

>>78324764
>be Portuguese
>created a nigger infested low IQ shithole because you're too stupid to manage a real colony like the British did
>nigger infested low IQ shithole gets stupider each year because the niggers you brought breed like maggots
>"huehuehuehuehue you had 195 years to solve it"

>>78325036
>Brazilians stop consuming and buy less of our proucts
>but don't stop producing and devaluating, flooding our market
selective free trade was a mistake

>>78325192
"State free market". Yes, like capitalist communism.

>>78325192
It's alright friend, welcome back to free trade and capitalism

>>78325187
>created a nigger infested low IQ shithole because you're too stupid to manage a real colony like the British did
Using the eternal Anglo as an example doesn't do you any favors.

And yes, it's your fault. You gained independence and wanted to wear the pants like a man, now bear the responsibility.

>>78323020
We had a emperor here at the time.Didn't help the fact that he obliterated any province that wanted to still be part of Portugal during the independence
There's also the reason that Portugal's always been more centralized as a government than Spain's. Up to this day people still think that a strong central government is what gives stability

>>78323542
>tfw chicanos would speak portuglish
>tfw there is a timeline where this abomination exists

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>>78324823
>Freemasons relevant for that time period (1820s)
>fucking liberal revolution and the Cortes and their shitty decisions taking down previously earned by brasilians brasil

History 6th grade 8th grade and portuguese 12th felizmente ha luar about freemasons like gomes de freire that to liberal revolution

>>78323824
We had two big provinces desu. Province of Brazil at south and province of grão-pará at north. Pedro simple fought or bought their loyalty to his government

>>78325385
Oh, forgot about that.

>>78325036
Are you retard? Of course Brazil will show bad indicators, we are in the worst economical crisis in our history, but even with all the problems like no decent infrastructure ans bureaucracy we was the biggest economy of Latin America. And our potential are Underappreciated.


>>78325192
It's don't made sense. Don't forget when argentina just closed alfandega and block Brazilian products.

>>78324463
You do realize 4chan isn't an accurate depiction of the real life or have you forgot again?

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>>78324766
He is honestly right, your economy depends on soybeans and shit like that. Whereas, well, pic.

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>>78325567
ahahaha você ainda tem cara pra defender o seu país?
lavagem cerebral é 100% eficaz

>>78323503
Brazil is more important to all South Americans than Mexico.

Aside from Guatemala and probably Honduras Brazil is a closer commercial partner to pretty much every Spanish speaker country than Mexico.

>>78325735
>implicando que não é um não sejas um brasileiro
Cala a boca, porra! Pior são os paraguaios chorando a guerra até hoje pois acreditam que o Brasil foi mal e quis acabar com o Paraguai. Deveria era agradecer pois se dependesse dos argentinos não existiria mais paraguai!

>>78325735
> you're either a blind nationalist or an irredeemable self-hater
You have to be more than 18 to post here

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>>78326025
Paraguay is our nigga, leave them alone.

>>78325946
True enough, we are talking global, not regional when we discuss relevance tho, Mexico didn't feel a thing when South America had their economic crisis, you were all affected however the last time we had one.

And anyway geopolitically speaking you do use Mexico to oppose Brazil as in the UN security council or through alternate integration mechanisms like Pacific alliance. It is in your best interest that we succeed because unlike Brazil we won't dominate you economically nor leverage that into politics.

Just nuke this shithole and bring REAL colonizers, not Spanish or Portuguese subhumans please

>>78326587
>>78326587
Shut up, underdog!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion
the britbongs. Portugal ally, Spain rival.

>>78324154
Rage pas sale français du nord avec ta gueule de Belge :)

feels good knowing your only colony in southern america is also the greatest country there
>inb4 argenegros