Why is holding your arm up at an angle considered an arrestable

>go to g*rmany
>begin stretching my arm forward and up to pull sleeve down and scratch my head
>police sees me and arrests me because my arm is at a slight angle upwards.

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>go to g*rmany
>stretch my arm in angular fashion so the bus stops
>get sent to jail

Because when America wrote our constitution they put limits on freedom of speech that allowed bans on anti-constitutional speech in form of symbols, gestures, assemblies and organisations

>hail a taxi in germany
>get shot

Germans are such a neurotic people.

>>78029970
Unironically this. Those Chinese men had it coming tho

>>78029970

What's stopping Germany from changing that today?

>>78030259
They're the most effeminate dronelike people in Europe

>>78030259
What's stopping America from changing its constitution?

More seriously: The concept of the so-called 'Wehrhafte Demokratie'(literally defensive/protective democracy) is a corner stone of contemporary German political order.

Basically it means that those that aim to overthrow the free, republican and democratic order are bound to those freedoms that come with it.

So if you abuse freedom of speech with the end goal to abolish it then you will lose it yourself.

>>78030430
bound to lose*

>>78030259
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalisation_(sociology)

>>78029657
Because in the end Hitler led to the destruction of Germany.

>>78030430
>So if you abuse freedom of speech with the end goal to abolish it then you will lose it yourself.

the whole point of free speech is to protect ALL speech, otherwise it isn't free speech. The fact that the government limits what can be said literally means they are guilty of trying to abolish free speech themselves.

Who ever said Germany has free speech

>>78030638
Take it as you will but it's a built-in self-defense mechanism. Murder is legal the moment someone is trying to murder you.

>>78030819
No one. You guys made sure that we won't ever have it.

>one less edgelord numoney chink on the streets

wtf I love germany now!

>>78029657

>tfw the Chinese tourists return to China and feel they're back in a country that respects freedom

>>78030638
There is no freedom of speech in Germany and only an idiot would claim otherwise

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksverhetzung

Also only an idiot would keep asking these most obvious questions. Germany was defeated and occupied by the US, the former regime was declared the most evil in history, the US wrote a new constitution based on that and started a reeducation campaign. America and Germany are still tied closely together economically and politically and Germany generally follows American thought and ideology very closely. Nazi Germany is ever present in Germany.

Why do Mexicans wear suits with ties which thy do not have any historical relationship to and not jaguar furs and eagle feathers and why do they pray to Jesus and don't sacrifice people to the old gods anymore? Because they have been colonized. Are they still a colony? No. But did their colonizers leave them to their own devices after telling them about Jesus because they knew they would of course instantly accept these new beliefs and abandon their own? Neither, they kept hem under control until they had internalized the new faith. And they made laws and made sure to enforce them.

The governments of the world, not even of the US, aren't made up by /pol/ posters; they will not cheer and applaud when Germany enacts policies or laws that seem to be in conflict with the post-nazi order enforced by the US. Quite the contrary.

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>>78029918
>>78029991
Shit I never thought about that.

How do Germans do these things?

>>78030911
this

>>78030638
Btw, pretty funny assertion from someone that lives in a country were fundamental rights are routinely bent due to the fact that they aren't written down in a unified constitution and whose MPs have to swear an oath on the monarchy before they can accept their mandate.

>>78030911
This, worst tourists in the world bar none

>>78030259
you/jews

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>>78029657
"democracy"

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>a hand gesture is now tantamount to a hate crime

Cringy chinese yet again

>>78029657
>Germany arrests LARPing /pol/tard faggots at first sight
I fail to see the negative here.

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>>78031216

>>78032742
>Chink white-knighting for other chinks
Quelle surprise

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>>78029970
lmao swadtikas, siege heils, and Nazi rallies are all legal here. You cocked yourselves.

Europe has become a laughing stock.

>>78031216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed4nvS2yGws
I love any excuse to watch this lol.

>>78032859
Just like invading other countries, bombing cities and killing civilians are not illegal when Americans do it

>>78032936
I'm not British idiot

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>be in g*rmany
>put up my right hand
>all government employees within my vicinity are signaled to forcefully lower my hand and detain me
wtf

>>78032859
It might be shocking to you bit the US has overthrown elected democracies in favor of military dictatorships in the past.

Today I went to an anime convention and when a rammstein song was played everyone started doing that salute and screamed some Hitler shit, it was very funny

>>78033157
>Today I went to an anime convention

Faggot.

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New theory: all the strong red-blooded patriots who didn't die in WWI died in WWII and now all that's left are squeamish traitors and cowards.

>>78033481
>red-blooded patriots
patriots are always cowards and traitors

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>>78033576
Ummm, try again sweetie

>>78031038
I don't see why anyone would bitch and moan about you trying to modify your constitution to allow actual free speech.
I'll believe you when you actually try it and it backfires.

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>>78030638
How do we save european freedoms?

>>78033481
I believe this.

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>>78033157
>Today I went to an anime convention

>>78034246
We don't, anon. It's too late for us. It's too late for all of us. Europe is fucked. America is also similarly fucked (see: corruption, civil forfeiture, etc)

>>78030430
we change our constitution pretty consistently, they are called amendments. Its not a small feat but it has happened 17 times past the original 10.

we haven't really done it since the 90s though.

>>78035264

> America is also similarly fucked (see: corruption, civil forfeiture, etc)

What corruption? I've never paid a bribe. I've never even heard of someone having to pay a bribe. We have free and open elections where every vote is counted and the people in power change hands all the time in a peaceful process.

>>78031038
In Mexico a lot of native beliefs were synchronized in the new religion. That is usually what happens. To paint these things as black and white is incorrect.

>>78035300
Recently, the person who stopped WannaCry by activating the kill switch was arrested by the FBI (see the el reg article for more).

Russia gave Trump a hand with the election.

Gerrymandering is still a thing.

Civil forfeiture means that an officer could take everything you own without reason.

Police get to murder people and get a paid holiday.

...

Europe has it shit (censorship etc), but you also have your own problems.

>>78031038
I love it how you alwasy blame USA 100% for your problems. As if France and United Kingdom were guiltless and Germany didn't have native liberals separate from the USA. For the record USA was a much different place in the late 1940s and alot of our guys we sent over to rebuild Germany would be considered nazis themselves today. For example many Southern Segregationist.

>>78035387
>In Mexico a lot of native beliefs were synchronized in the new religion

Bad meme

>>78035410
The other horrible stuff is true but this is debateable
>Recently, the person who stopped WannaCry by activating the kill switch was arrested by the FBI (see the el reg article for more).
Doing one good thing does not mean a person won't do other bad, illegal things
>Russia gave Trump a hand with the election.
For all that people go on about that there's yet to be evidence of that. The closest thing to it is his son meeting with som russians.

>>78035555
Nice get, but you can't deny the other issues. Some of they could be wrong, but they could also be right.

Also, the WannaCry guy asked for a copy of the Kronos banking virus. You don't ask for a copy of something you are accused of creating.

>>78030430
>What's stopping America from changing its constitution?
300 million angry gun-owning Americans.

>>78035580
I don't deny the other issues, I deny the ones I wrote about.

>>78035608
Very well. You can read more about the WannaCry guy here: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/04/marcus_hutchins_wannacry_kronos_court_bail/

Also, another one: Your prisons are run for profit.

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Had they something of similar nature in their homeland, they'd be fucking dead now.

>>78035482
What do you mean?

>>78029918
>>78031046
>>78029991
>>78033116

Ever heard of intention you retards?
The Hitler salute is only punishable if you do it intentionally. Yes i support this law, /pol/ cancer retards should stay on /pol/ and not fucking annoy us in public, too.

>>78035841
There's no way to reliably know intention, you retard. Besides, many examples of prosecution based on this seem to have a lack of intent.

>>78035445
>Germany didn't have native liberals separate from the USA.
we did, yeah, in concentration camps

and the question wasn't why germany isn't right wing but why nazi symbols are prohibited.

>>78035841
how do you prove intention tho

>>78035829
He means he's an illiterate leaf who's opinions should be disregarded.

>>78035841
Why is burning a Bible OK but giving the Roman salute evil?

>>78035864
>>78035891
LOL

Common law - Not even once

>>78035580
>You don't ask for a copy of something you are accused of creating
...unless you are trying to cover your tracks

You have to think beyond the first step you know. That's a skill that extends past arguing about nothing on the internet.

>>78031038
Wait, so we don't have any historical relationship to one of our two mother cultures and half of our ancestors?

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>>78035841
>I want to arrest people because they annoy me
What a bootlicking faggot.

Sieg fucking heil
Yes I said it and I'm not afraid of Merkel

>>78036018
you cant read for shit ameribaby, go eat a burger

>>78035841
What if i do it and yell AVE CAESAR?

>>78036043
More like you can't understand the implications of phrases beyond their literal meaning.
Read a book, nigger.

>>78036018
Personally I'm for getting rid of all annoying people but I see why you'd be strongly opposed to that.

>>78036062
*picture of Mussolini's hanged corpse being beaten*

>>78031038
Volksverhetzung ist auch eine Straftat du verfickter Vollidiot.

>>78036072
Make sure you don't annoy your bull tonight in bed then.

>>78035410
>Recently, the person who stopped WannaCry by activating the kill switch was arrested by the FBI (see the el reg article for more).

Yeah he broke the law.

>Russia gave Trump a hand with the election.

True but that's not corruption, that's foreign meddling. Corruption is internal by definition.

>Gerrymandering is still a thing.

That's not corruption. Your vote is still counted. Districts have always been gerrymandered from the very beginning, even before the constitution, it's not corruption.

>Civil forfeiture means that an officer could take everything you own without reason.

That's not what it means.

>Police get to murder people and get a paid holiday.

No, police involved with a shooting are suspended while the details are sorted out. Hardly corruption.

I could tell you things that do border on corruption but your examples suck.

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>>78033481
>>78035841
Exhibit A

>>78036095
It's 2:30 AM. That's, like, 5 school shootings from now where you're at.

>>78036092
Heil Hitler

>>78036067
i did, you cant however, disgusting brown midget from pol
die

>>78036138
I'd take every dead child in the world before giving up personal liberty, you would give yours away to keep up that joke of a social contract you have going on.

>>78036144
Der ist schon lange tot, den kann niemand mehr heilen.

>>78029657
Will they gibe me citizenship when they arrest me?

>>78036144
And there's your reason these things are prohibited.

>>78036202
>>78036209
SIEG

>>78035912
Because nobody gives a fuck about the bible but the Holocaust is the basis of our government and civil religion.

>>78036195
You've given up many things, yet you're no more free than anyone else ITT. The brainwashing has been a great success, just say "freedom" and the American barks and shits himself.

>>78036195
Same here. People always ask "how many more will need to die" and I answer "every last one". I will never surrender my personal liberties because someone else fucked up.

>>78035931
>Common law - Not even once
>Fuck being judged by my peers, I love being a slave to the state!
How does Napoleon's cock taste faggot?

>>78036225
kek, such a big boy, do you also pee standing up?

>>78036253
>swede has so much cock on his mind that he forgets what this thread is about

>>78035745
Except Nazism isn't illegal in China let alone hand gestures, you stupid snownigger

>>78030859

>burn all of europe and kill the most white people ever in a horrific murder-suicide
>have to be stopped

>OMGGGG ITS AMERICAS FAULT!!!!!

fucking retard

>>78036459
>make Nazism illegal
>OMGGGGG WHY IS NAZISM ILLEGAL?????

American

>>78030430
>What's stopping America from changing its constitution?
if it aint broke dont fix it

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>>78029860
>>78029918

>>78035410
>le civil forfeiture maymay
it's a tiny loophole that occasionally rears its head. it's by no means tearing the country apart

>>78036226
>the Holocaust is the basis of our government
this could be taken a few ways

>>78036195

There's no point talking about something like personal liberty or freedom of speech to a Swede or a German. They will never understand, it's just not in their nature.

What's sad is how Britain is taking a shit all over itself though. They invented these ideas, and here they are.

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>>78036486
>proud of having literal thought crimes.

>>78036486
oh yeah i remember that time i banned nazism

>>78036655
oh yeah i remember that time i arrested someone for doing the hitler salute
>>78036615
>proud of being gay
here, same type of "argument"

>>78036732

You can go out into the middle of DC wearing a full Waffen SS uniform, Toptenkopf cap and all, flying the flag of Nazi Germany and do a nazi salute. Nothing will happen you legally.

Meanwhile, IN GERMANY, the origin country of Nazism, you can't even remotely put your arm in a direction that could be misconstrued as a nazi salute for fear of being jailed.

What the fuck is wrong with your country?

>>78036809
Germans.

>>78030638
>don't have the freedom to advocate the death of others

wtf... germany nazi state now...

>>78030259
You and your jew overlords turned this country into a leftist dictatorship after the war. That's why. The left controlls everything here.

>>78036809
>>78033481

>>78036809
I can also go to the middle of Berlin wearing full Soviet uniform, NKVD cap and all, flying the flag of the Soviet Union and do sing the International. Nothing will happen to me.

Meanwhile in Hungary, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania and the Czech Republic, among others, I would get put into prison.

The fuck is wrong with them?

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>>78035841
It's idiotic. You guys should just allow people to say all that crazy shit and let them deal with the social consequences instead of getting the law involve. Same reason the KKK is allowed to march but majority of time they get overwhelmed by counter protests.

>>78036958
The same thing that's wrong with you.

Americans made National Socialism illegal, vilified it, propagated the singularity of the Holocaust and collective debt to enslave Germany for all time and 70 years later their kids complain about it on 4chan. Can't make this shit up.

But it's not really that weird when you think about. During WW2 Roosevelt for example genuinely thought Stalin was a swell guy and communism not bad. When Kohl tried to get support for German reunification, all the European leaders panicked but the elder Bush supported him cause he and Kohl were friends was genuinely too dumb to understand European geopolitics and history to have actual thoughts about it. So it turned out well for us. But they are mentally like children in that regard. They have their constitution and world history and all culture starts and ends with that.

>>78037096
why is always our fault

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>>78036958
the fuck is wrong with you?

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>>78036062
The Romans never actually used that salute, there is no evidence it even existed. The only reason it is called that is because it originated from a painting of Roman soldiers in 1784.

>>78037721
why guy on left is amused/smug when no one else is

>>78034246
>a leddit post
>wtf europe is literally a caliphate!!!
Please hang yourself you inbred retard.

>>78037764
he's got werid fetish

>>78037688
>our
America doesn't belong to you, stop LARPing already.
You own America like slaves owned the cotton farms that enslaved them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg7EF90Aaw8

>>78037772
Dont be so butthurt, princess.

>>78037721
>>78038030
Good argument.

>>78035931
On the off-chance you're not posting this ironically, I really can't understand your mentality.

Do you really trust parliamentarians that much?

>>78036122
>bastardizing our democracy is not corruption
>stealing from civilians is not corruption
>police not getting indicted after blatant misconduct is not corruption

eat a dick faggot

>>78036809
>What the fuck is wrong with your country?
they have common decency and learned from past mistakes

>>78036809
I encourage you to walk up to some policemen and shout Allahu Akbar. Tell me how it went, okay?

>>78038722
>they have common decency

"Common decency" isn't something you need to enforce with state violence.

And the problem with state enforced "decency" is it's never applied to everyone equally due to political goals usurping actual justice.
Today they have huge Muslim protests marching through the streets screaming "death to the Jews" and all kind of shit, and they aren't silenced, while anyone else just questioning the out of control immigration of uneducated young men from shithole backwards countries are cut down.

>>78037096
This. Americans should be gassed together with their beloved kikes.

>>78029657
>hurr why is setting a piece of cloth on fire considered an arrestable offense in America

It's called context, retard

>>78029657
>>78035841
How do you discern the depth of intention and if there was any intention to begin with? What if an Asian man knows surface history and thinks it's a meme in Germany so does it when he arrives. The intention is there but he doesn't know of what it implies in regards to the law. He just thinks that Germans did it in the past when they had fashionable uniforms n shit. So he thinks it'd be cool to do, he knows of death and destruction caused by the users but plenty of nations have done the same and he draws no conclusion that it is a negative thing, just the impartial past that no one cares about anymore. Plenty of symbols and hand signs remain in use from very genocidal regimes. A sane individual would not put weight on it, would assume it be a harmless piece of the past.

Why is Europe such an authoritarian shithole. Australia is going a similar path these days but in terms of expressing your beliefs and views there is effectively no restriction. There is technically, but it's not really enforced.

Because the Germans are Nazis even when they're trying their hardest not to be Nazis, they end up being Nazi about not being Nazi

It's like it's in their blood

"You want to say bad things about Merkel on the internet? Well I'm sorry to say that you might be about to get a midnight visit by state security and a trip to a local conc- I mean, detention centre for racist criminals! That will teach you to try and be a flaw in our perfect anti-racist society Hans!"

>>78040676

Flag burning is not an arrestable offense in the United States, it's perfectly legal and protected free speech.

See: Texas v. Johnson (U.S. Supreme Court; 1989)

>>78040941
If he made this case in court, he would likely receive a lighter sentence. But ignorance is not a viable defense in general, it is your responsibility to be aware of what the laws are wherever you happen to be.

>>78040649
why are germans so mean to americans after all america has done for germany

>>78030259
What the fuck is stopping Americans from getting rid of that ridiculous second amendment?

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>>78036138

>>78037688
Your country, since it's very establishment, has been at perpetual war. For generations now your government has been overthrowing other governments, starting wars, bombing nations, ruining economies, etc., all of which was completely unwarranted and action taken against other nations on their soil. It is the fault of your nation for their own actions and it will continue to be "your" fault until America as a nation either gets nuked to a reset point or magically learns how to stop behaving like a schoolyard bully. America essentially functions like Islam: a military, expansionist empire, spreading its tendrils around the world via the war machine. Look at the sheer amount of US military bases around the world. That's not normal. That's an angry rash upon the face of the planet.

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>>78041599
>America as a nation either gets nuked to a reset point or magically learns how to stop behaving like a schoolyard bully. America essentially functions like Islam: a military, expansionist empire, spreading its tendrils around the world via the war machine. Look at the sheer amount of US military bases around the world. That's not normal. That's an angry rash upon the face of the planet.

>implying America isn't a nice world policeman

Should have just defiled the brandenburg gate by engraving graffiti into it like normal chinks do.

>>78030742
holy shit that bowl cut

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>>78041599
Someone's got to police the world.

>>78030430
häng dich

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>>78041672
if you faggots think yous r """policing the world""" then I've got some bad news for you officer.

>>78041688
/NSDAP/ hier?

>>78036406
you are the stupid one for failing at reading comprehension

>>78029657
>go to g*rmany
>raise my arm in greeting as friend approaches
>get sent to jail

>>78040976
underrated post

Chinese are so boss

>>78038328
They must.

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>>78033132
Not shocking at all. Almost all of Central America was/still is CIA puppet states. Lookup Panama and Noreaga.

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>>78030742
What would happen here. Do they just take the guy with them to the station. Or do you legit get at least a warning.

True story: when I was younger some German got into a road rage incident with my dad in the autobahn. Pollezi pulled us both over and gave the guy a ticket for not less than 500 marks for flicking us the bird.

this thread gave me autism
god americans are so fucking retarded never cease to amaze me

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>>78035841

/thread

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>be in g*rmany
>try to perform classic british comedy
>get arrested

>>78031907

I hate Germans. He do you be so cucked yet so proud and arrogant simultaneously?

>>78035891
It's not that hard. When it becomes necessary for human discernment to enter the question, it can through one of the legal means we have: a judge or a jury. Intention to signal support for Nazism is as easy to prove as any other crime, because ever action is only proved "reasonably" in a court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp2cgH0U0Pc&ytbChannel=MrBotty1975

>>78043568
Most of us (german flags) on 4chan are actually russian-germans. Proud full blood germans don't exist.