Non-Native English speakers, what was the hardest part of

your spelling doesn't make sense and that's about it

i still fuck up the word necccceesssaarrryyy everytime

>>77980738
I think I saw one of those videos yesterday. I was looking up dragonfruit and one of the first results was dragonfruits up assholes.

>>77981324
It's true. It took me years to be able to spell maneuver correctly every time.

none
it just takes time

>>77980738
There was no hard part. English is super easy to learn.
It was much harder to learn German

Non-phonemic spelling system. I remember trying to verbally use new words I read in books and guessing their pronunciation.

Actually, I still do that.

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English is pretty easy, but I do dislike the phonetic inconsistencies. Oh, and I can't pronounce “world” for the life of me.

>>77981411
Subtle

>>77981551
me neither

Tenses. I still didn't using them correctly.

>>77981551
>>77981657
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ggH1qz0MhE

>>77980738
To accept the fact that I have to learn an imperialism language

There really wasn't any difficulty, for instance I'd consider French a tad harder but more rewarding

>>77980738
Vocabulary. I think I can manage to conjugate properly but most of the time my writing is very lame. I like to use various words in French so it annoys me

Pronounciation. Thankfully I can shitpost and could harass people in Runescape (classic) without having to say things out loud.
Never had to study english, learned all from Runescape and vidya; talked
with my english teachers so I was able to skip the lessons and only participate in tests during school.

>>77981551
Whir-ild

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>>77980738
>Pronounciation
/sfred

>>77980738
Your stupid ass vocals and spelling

>>77980738
I still can't make the th sound, mostly because my teeth are sort of fucked

Phrasal verb nonsense
Only like 1% of those make sense

>>77981463
This happens to people whose first language is easy.
Every so often I will come across a new word and try to read it phonetically and not be close.

>>77981916
>>77982040
I know how it sounds, that doesn't mean I can replicate it consistently, especially while conversating. I guess it's just practice, shame I don't have that very often.

The hardest part is clearly the pronounciation, especially the "TH" sound... And your R.
There is also the fact that a lot of your words are nearly or exactly the same as the french ones, but they are always pronounced differently, it's disturbing.

Why do so many of you have difficulty with pronunciation, don't you regularly consume English media

>>77983056
They have so many accents tho

>>77983082
Doesn't matter, I switch between American and English colliqualisms, idioms even accents easily depending on whom I am speaking to

idk, it's pretty easy overall. I don't know how to separate the syllables of the words though, it doesn't make any sense in my monkey head.

>>77983056
>don't you regularly consume English media
Yes, but we don't actually communicate

>>77983056
Hearing something =/= being able to replicate it

D-does English sounds gay to you guys?

>>77983572
Absolutely not, the emphasis on vowels creates a softness but it doesn't affect masculinity

>>77982825
>conversating
>Brazilian English

>>77980738
Nothing, English is literally the easiest language in the world.

Nothing

Easiest language, anyone that doesn't know it it's because he doesn't want to.

pronuncee A She On
vocabulary is generally hard. you learn fork, knife, spoon, but general kitchen stuff and items is a lot of words

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>>77982825
>conversating
I still love my country...

probably the spelling being an arbitrary rollercoaster
The rest is quite easy

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FUCKING PAST TENSES
ALL OF THOSE THINGS MEAN THE SAME FUCKING THING YA BASTARDS. IT MAKES NO SENSE.

>>77988527
cool
now say it in past tense

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>>77988527
>he doesn't have 4 different past tenses and a future past tense

>>77988642
>>77988697
But it makes no sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is the past, the present and the future. Even in English. Having more cases than 3 is borderline retarded.
You only need one for the past. One for present. One for the future. That's the way it's LOGICAL.

>>77980738

This is proof that Australia is 99.9% abbo

>>77988888
SIEG HEIL KAMERAD! \o

>>77988527
All of those mean completely different things, Ivan.

>>77988870
The different tenses have different contexts. See https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/200358/what-is-the-purpose-of-past-future-tense for a full explanation.

>>77988888
wew

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>>77981411

>>77988888
based and checked

>>77988697
*5 different past tenses
>>77988870
>not distinguishing between stuff that happened in the past for a continued period of time, stuff that happened once and whose consequences are no longer relevant, stuff that happened once and whose consequences persist, stuff that happened before other stuff that happened once and whose consequences are no longer relevant, stuff that happened before other stuff that happened once and whose persist, and stuff that will maybe happen in the future but before something else
How do you even manage to communicate with each other with such vague language?

English was pretty easy to learn 2bh.
But I always get all mixed up with words that have double 's' or double 'p' most of the time I don't know which one of them is double

I will never understand why so many people cant make the th sound correctly. I guess its different because im a native speaker but it doesnt seem difficult to just press your tongue against your top teeth and blow no matter how you look at it

>>77989177
Because the sound or phoneme isn't in their language.

>>77989177
arrogant burger prick.

>>77980738
video games taught me
it just stuck on me somehow

>>77989246
I even said that I guess its different for me because im a native speaker. what the fuck crawled up your ass?
>>77989228
I understand that but the actual mouth placement isnt very precise. It seems like something that would be easy to learn even if you hadnt done it from birth

>>77980738
English pronunciation is retarded.

>pear, bear,
>near, fear, tear

>poor, moon, root
>floor, blood, door

etc.
It's inconsistent and arbitrary as fuck.

>>77989177
>>77989228
>>77989246
"th" isn't that hard, but it's just unnatural for non-Anglos to make, so we'd just use a "d" if not paying attention specifically to pronouncing it right

>>77988888

check'd

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>>77989409
cough, tough, through, dough

nuthin personnel kid

>>77988982
>>77989105
>>77989011
Pointless! It's in the PAST. The events are finished, static, and unchanging. Those are just completely meaningless and frivolous details, one shouldn't concern himself with.
>How do you even manage to communicate with each other with such vague language?
It's not vague. You can express all of those things and more if you wish, and with less words than you. Ours is a very compact language, dense with important information.

Anyway, don't mind my autism, I'm just turbo butthurt about this.

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>>77981943
Japan dropping the deep hard truths as always.

>>77981989
As a native English speaker, I don't know if what I'm about to say is accurate for non-natives, but I feel like conjugation in English is one of the very few things that's actually easy. English has a lot of fucked up inconsistencies but there isn't much to our conjugation, is there? Am I overlooking something?

>>77982243
This happens to some people with fucked up teeth even in America. You kind of need them in order to do it right.

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>>77988527
>>77988697
>>77989689
>verb conjugations
You are like a little baby
Watch this

I never really know when to use "in, at, on", etc.

>>77989409
Question for native speakers and non-natives both. What would you think if there were some global effort to "reform" the English language in such a way as to fix inconsistencies like these? I mean I know all these words but that doesn't change the fact that it's objectively retarded.

>>77990041
English speakers often have similar difficulties with propositions in the romance languages.

>>77990047
Forced language reforms are always a stupid idea.

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I can't pronounce 'th'

>>77989847
We have some inconsistencies there. You say "I ran" rather than "I runned", which gives extra stuff to memorize.

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>>77989944
Spanish and Italian verbs have identical modes and tenses
>>77989689
For you these differences are not relevant because you have lived all your life without taking them into account, for romance language or German speakers they are important enough to warrant a whole tense

>>77990047
Stupid. The only good language reforms are the ones that come naturally. Simplyfing language so the non natvies have easier way of learning it is retarded.

>>77990047
It's too late now, you should have done it some 300 years ago when printing was somewhat limited and half of the documents of the world were not written in English

>>77990120
Yeah good point. I didn't think of that. It's the same across the board for most subjects though. I ran, you ran, they ran, etc. First person plural gets the -s at the end in the present tense but they're not all different like in many languages.

Question to native speakers, how do you know what kind of word is person saying if the pronunciation of few different words is the same?

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>english
>hard

>>77980738
For slavs it is articles.

>>77990120
Irregular verbs aren't hard because we only have to memorize the regular verb, past tense and participle
>eat ate eaten
>be was/were been
>ride rode ridden
etc.
Verb conjugation in English is stupidly easy.

>>77990251
It's all about context. Have you ever studied French? This is even more of a problem when learning that language because of all the silent letters.

English is an easy and primitive language.

>>77990280
I've noticed this from reading Slav posters here. Especially Russians. How does this work in your languages? Instead of "a dog" or "the dog" is it just "dog", or what?

I can not not roll my R's. I must be retarded.

>>77983020
>.. And your R
That's easy, just imagine big cock in your mouth and try to pronounse.

>>77990469
R is the hardest letter to get right across various languages, I think.

I sound like a retard when I pronounce "literature"

>lee-rah-lah-churr
Fuck I don't even know what sounds I make

>>77980738

in on and at

he is on the beach, he is at the beach, he is in the beach. Sometimes you dont know which one to use.

>always talked funny when id speak my mother tounge cause i couldnt pronounce a hard R
>perfect english pronounciation throughout school
hardest part was learning how not to sound like an eastern-european english-as-a-second-language piece of trash

>>77990678
In = inside
on = above someone
at = some distant place

I'm in the bathroom.
I'm on the roof.
I'm at the school.

But of course this is English and it has retarded things like
>I'm on a plane

>>77990678
on/at can be used interchangeably in that case. I dont think ive ever heard anyone say that they were in a beach

>>77990676
Vocaroo it for us?

>>77990739

I think on the moon and on the beach are the normal terms for being in those places.

>>77990678
>>77990791
In most cases something like this is not a major fuckup though. If you said you were "in the beach" it would be wrong and sound funny, but everyone would know exactly what you meant anyway.

>>77990427
>Instead of "a dog" or "the dog" is it just "dog", or what?
Yes, it's just "dog", but we have and use many different word endings which help us to distinguish context and meaning of the words in sentences. Russian has six grammatical cases, for example, which differ in endings (you have three cases: nominative, genitive and oblique). Ukrainian has seven cases.

>>77990823
Saying at is a general location, while in is more specific.
>I'm at the pool
You are in the place that people call the pool, not necessarily INSIDE the pool
>I'm in the pool
You are physically inside the body of water known as the pool.

>I'm at the library
You are at the library. Maybe outside, in front of, or whatever.
>I'm in the library
You are INSIDE the library

Pronunciation is completely unnatural for a russian.
Articles are pointless 99% of the time.
Only four tenses out of sixteen actually have a valuable purpose.

Also, English has no poetry to it. It sounds mechanic and it lacks depth.

>>77990954
I've never studied a Slavic language but I've read that all those cases are really hard for English speakers to master.

>>77990877
I was in one beach the other day but she was only a whore

>>77980738
The effects it had on my native language. I often try to squeeze english words in a german sentence or use english grammar. I basically treat a 2nd language like some extra words and not like a completely separate entity.

>>77991077
Example?

>>77981602
Queue

>>77980738
My accent, fucks up my pronounciation.

>>77990959
"I'm at the library" can mean "I'm in the library" as well.

>>77991036
>Articles are pointless 99% of the time.
I've seen Russians on /int/ say this and I don't understand. There's a difference between "a" and "the." Saying "I have a car" is completely different from "I have the car."

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I'm planning on taking Cambridge Proficiency because I'm just THAT confident in my English level.
I've read some sample tests and shit looks easy.
Is CPE really the best English certification out there?

>>77990954
Grammar cases have nothing to do with articles, they replace prepositions such as "at" or "of"

>>77980738
Difference between have/has and had in a sentence.
"I have gone home"
"I had gone home"
Kicked my ass for a long time until I found out most english speakers don't even bother with it when using past tense

something that is slightly difficult for me is to pronounce the consonant cluster THR as in Throw without rolling the R. the wind that blows out when the tongue is touching the front teeth for the TH rolls the R if I dont focus.

>>77991289
Yeah there's a difference between "a" and "the"
a something is just an normal object that you might not or know but when you say THE something you mean specific thing like when you say "a band" it can by any band on this planet but when you say "the band" you mean specific band.

>>77990047
There are two major problems with spelling reform.
One is that it makes everything written before it more difficult to read, and in the case of a clusterfuck like English, would make many words unrecognizable and the other is that there are many English dialects and how you'd spell them phonetically varies a lot.

>>77991056
Maybe. It's just other system of thinking (like your articles for us - we never met them before). And much more information to learn: now I'm learning German and it's much harder than English because it has 4 grammatical cases and very different grammatical articles. Slavic languages are still harder, because they have even more grammatical cases and many different endings (for verbs too, so you difference between "have" and "has" is just kid stuff).

>>77991408

whats your native language?

>>77991036
>It sounds mechanic and it lacks depth.
this is every language if you're not proficient in it

>>77991289
There is no reason to specify what car do you have exactly. If you mentioned it in a sentence once you don't have to keep referring to it with the definite article because it's already obvious what car are you talking about. So there is no need for "the".
If I'm asking someone for a pen I shouldn't be forced to specify what kind of a pen I want. Just pass me any pen you can that happened to be in your vicinity. That attribute of "unspecificity" has to be considired default. So there is no point in "a" too.

>>77991526
His flag makes it quite clear that he's Chinese.

>>77991647
lots of things are "pointless" in a language
Russian's endless cases and tenses and its strict gender system is entirely redundant as demonstrated by English
languages have many ways of conveying the same information and calling one aspect pointless or illogical is a futile task

>>77991528
I expected that kind of reply.
It's the problem of the english language because none of the other languages are that way. Polish literature sounds natural. German poetry sounds natural. Japanese language sounds natural. English poetry sounds like it was written by a dyslexic robot.

>>77991395
>Grammar cases
Grammar cases differ endings in words (in Slavic languages). Sometimes in very spontaneous way, so you must keep many separate cases in memory.

>>77991461
Thank you Sherlock.

>>77991782
>English poetry sounds like it was written by a dyslexic robot
Nah, mate. Try to read Archibald Lampman - very meditative and calm poetry about nature. I never met something like that in Russian or Ukrainian.

>>77991647

think of the bible

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

The difference between The beginning and A beginning would be huge.

>>77991782
you may feel that way but there's no objective reasoning behind this
native English speakers don't feel that way

>>77991802
>Grammar cases change/affect endings in words
fix

>>77991973
>The difference between The beginning and A beginning would be huge.
Mate, there are no articles in Slavic languages, we don't think by this category.

>>77990739
But it's also used to refer to more abstract locations/objects, as in:

I like to shitpost 'on' 4chan.
What's the best movie 'in' your opinion.
I can't go to the party, but please, don't cancel the party 'on' my account.
Can you deposit this money 'in' my account.

These ones can be tricky.

for me the pronunciation is very difficult
the grammar is simple and pretty similar to Icelandic but getting the vowels right, distinguishing v and w, s and z, hitting the English 'r', etc. is just very unnatural for an Icelandic speaker

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo is a grammatically correct sentence in American English.

Makes you think.

>>77992193
Literally what?

>>77992164
cutie

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>>77992307
"Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo" is a grammatically correct sentence in American English, often presented as an example of how homonyms and homophones can be used to create complicated linguistic constructs. It has been discussed in literature in various forms since 1967, when it appeared in Dmitri Borgmann's Beyond Language: Adventures in Word and Thought.

The sentence employs three distinct meanings of the word buffalo:

as a proper noun to refer to a specific place named Buffalo, the city of Buffalo, New York being the most notable;
as a verb (uncommon in regular usage) to buffalo, meaning "to bully, harass, or intimidate" or "to baffle"; and
as a noun to refer to the animal, bison (often called buffalo in North America). The plural is also buffalo.
More easily decoded, though semantically equivalent, would be: Buffalo from Buffalo whom other buffalo from Buffalo bully [themselves] bully buffalo from Buffalo.

>>77991973
>The difference between The beginning and A beginning would be huge.
Anyway if we want to stress some word (which has article "The" in English), we use words with meaning "this\that" or "those\these" (in plural).

>>77992352
My brain just melted.

The spilling.

>>77992457
In French we have : "si mon tonton tond ton tonton ton tonton tondu sera"

But the writing isn't the same so that sucks

>>77992491

C'est quoi un "tonton"? Merci en avance

As a native english speaker, I think the main problem for us is trying to learn other languages, basically because the grammar is so different compared to what we are used to. Alot of languages use the same words for several completely different things, which is odd. Or they will use a different word altogether that has the same meaning but they change it for that situation.

Also any language with a non-romanticized alphabet is even more difficult. Because you have to translate once to get the sound, and translate again once you put the sounds together. Learning a language like Chinese, Korean or Japanese is an extremely difficult thing for an American to do. If you can do it, you are one of the few smart people in this country.

>>77992634
Babyish version of "oncle", which means "uncle"

>>77992674
I think your main problem, especially for Americans, is that English seems very flexible, you can pretty much adapt the form of your sentences or the conjugation and it will still be somewhat correct. Other languages have stricter rules.

>>77992484
What does this mean?

>>77992674
Any of you ever try to translate from japanese to english, and the wording is so bizzare that its incohesive?

>>77992714

Merci a toi, anon! Prends un <toi>

>>77992335
swedish people always sound like they're singing and it's adorable

>>77992764
At a young age we are given either spanish, french, or italian to learn depending on the area we live in. At one point I got to level 2 spanish and was able to form entire paragraphs and say/read them perfectly, but I lost most of what I learned because I didn't have anyone to talk to on a daily basis.

To understand native speakers, because they don't pronounce half of the sounds in the word.

>>77992822
De rien
Et on dit plutôt "merci d'avance"

>>77981401
Me too. Still mix it with shit.

Are/is is still sometimes a bit vague for me. Maybe I should check the rules. Of course I won't make that mistake in obvious cases but sometimes I notice myself pondering which one it should be.

If I'm not careful I tend use excessive "woulds" in a sentence. Otherwise I don't remember any big issues.

For any of you struggling to learn english, using the "Hooked on Phonics" videos as a child helped me alot.

>>77992785
I think it's a joke with "spelling"

>"out" is pronounced literally "auto"
>"auto" is backwardly done

fuck

>>77993135
Am = Singular, referring to ones self
Are = plural
Is = singular but not referring to ones self

>>77993213
>"out" is pronounced literally "auto"
No it's not.

>>77993213
>>"out" is pronounced literally "auto"
No. it's "aut" without the o at the end.
You think it's auto because you're used to Japanese sounds and the sole "t" doesn't exist in Japanese because it's ト instead. You have to learn to omit that o.

>>77993214
I am
You are
He/she/it is
We are
You are
They are

>>77993213
Out = owwt
Auto = aww to

>>77993214
Yes, but I guess the problem is I'm not always sure what I'm referring to.

I struggled to understand the differences of conjugation between French and English at first, but now I think I improved

Like:
>I did not know that
Would be in French
>I didn't knew that

Or
>I made it myself
Would be
>I've made it myself

It's still understandable but I want to write better as I'm a grammar nazi for my native languages. Too bad there aren't enough anglophones grammar nazis, it could help even if many people find it annoying or are angry to be corrected

>>77993316
Very good

>>77993213
Auto = あと(phonetically)

>>77980738
Realizing it's superior to swedish. All young people here speak swenglish now, where we use english crutch-words because swedish alone is insufficient. It's even been suggested by some lefties to completely abandon swedish in favor of it.

>>77980738
Transforming the quick sounds you burgers make into sounds

How to pronounce "r". It is still difficult for me to do this without breaking my tongue. I also do not understand why native speakers can skip pronouns, auxiliary verbs, and articles without a reason. And yes, why do you use double negatives? Is this the type of fashion that niggers have launched, or do you really find it difficult to avoid them? Well, also, the British, change your gay and arrogant accent, I can not listen to it without disgust.

>>77993770
I'm thankful to Americans for making the English language listenable even though they had to niggerified it in the process.

You just have to hear some words being spoken because you can't find out the pronounciation by reading, eg. the word "recipe". It's annyoing.

>>77993854
Thanks for colonizing the niggers and giving them a foundation language to start with

>>77993893
Rehsippeee

>>77993693
> It's even been suggested by some lefties to completely abandon swedish in favor of it.
Swedish leftists belong in a noose
>Realizing it's superior to swedish
this includes you

>>77993770
>why do you use double negatives?
this is a dialectical feature that's ungrammatical in "standard" English but acceptable and common in black Enligsh
black English is not just a collection of grammatical errors like many people assume but an internally consistent dialect which differs from standard English in a few noticeable ways

>>77993980
Sweeden is a shithole of degeneracy

>>77993951
Yes, you should just write your words like this instead.

>>77993770
Most languages have double negatives including yours I think.
It's just that niggers are uneducated and dont use them correctly. Somehow that spread into some slang mainstream lingo.
Also I think some of the British accents sound cute on girls. There are many though and some just sound like trash to me

>>77993417
Being a grammar nazi is actively discouraged in America, I don't know about other countries.

>>77993980
>black Enligsh
Oh shit, if I used to listen much rap, am I gonna to sound like a hood retard? Because I I don't really know how to distinguish between black English and white English.

>>77994161
Here most people tend to butcher the languages especially the youths, but we still have the French Acadamy which enounces rules to use words or expressions properly, correct common mistakes, avoid new words taken from English or hazardous neologisms, etc.

>>77994193

>I don't really know how to distinguish between black English and white English.

Seriously? Yes you sound like a retard and I haven't even heard you speak yet

I wish we all spoke 1 language... I wish it was Japanese, I wish we were all Japanese...

>>77994193
if double negatives and habitual be (he be working) sound wrong to you you're not speaking nigger english

>>77993693
Sweden scares me

>>77981401
>>77981324

Buoyancy is the real killer

>>77994121
There are double negatives in Russian, but they are not considered to be a grammar mistake at all.
Yes, but not on men, they sound like narcissistic faggots.

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Why do so many people think English has a future tense?

There is no future tense in English, just words that modify present tense into future actions.

I go - Present tense
I went - Past tense
I will go - still Present tense, only with the word "will" which changes the event into a future event.

To have a future tense there would need to be a conjugation of the word "Go" which means "to go in the future".

lmao

>having to learn english

>>77993213
I noticed watching Gaki No Tsukai that every time the participants are called "out" the voice says "out-o" and couldn't figure out why.
>>77993893
You have the benefit of strict pronunciation rules but your use of comically long compound words isn't always easy to grasp for us.

>>77994504
Maybe because it calls "Future simple"?

>>77994504
standard English doesn't have a future tense but black English does
I'm-a go to the store

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>>77994504
wtf

>>77988888
damn son

>he can't pronounce either of the th sounds

>>77994958
>he doesn't have separate letters for the þ and ð sounds
are anglos even trying

Are those who try to speak without an accent sound silly?

>>77980738
Americans using your as you're

>>77994992
Don't have to when we won.

>>77995497
you used to have ðose letters ðough
it was only wiþ the advent of ðe advent of ðe printing press ðat ðey fell out of use in favor of ðe digraph since German imported printers didn't have the Old/Middle English letters on ðem

>>77990791
so what would be correct in this case?
>Im in the disco
>Im on the disco
>Im at the disco

>>77995574
DESU I think "ð" or "þ" could be useful, but I don't see the point in both of them since they do the same thing but are just at different ends of the word.

>>77995884
At the disco means you're either inside of the place with a disco or you are immediately outside of the building/room. In the disco means you're inside of the room with the disco. You would never say on the disco under any circumstance.

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>Chinese doesn't have ANY tenses

>>77996122
ðat's not true
ð is voiced as in ðough, ðis, ðat, ðy, baðe
þ is unvoiced as in þick, þink, þigh, baþ
same as the difference between z and s

ðe two sounds are pretty much allophones in English ðough, ðat's true but not completely as ðere is ðe contrast between ðy and þigh which are pronounced exactly ðe same otherwise

>I'm at the toilet
>I'm in the toilet
>I'm on the toilet

Two of these statements are correct!

>>77980738
Your stupid fucking orthography. Fuck, your spelling is retarded as fuck.

>>77996346
You could theoretically be inside of a large enough toilet.

>>77996319
Is Icelandic the only language that uses þ and ð? And Faroese, maybe?

>>77996422
only living language yes
Old English used both Gothic used þ and Faroese uses ð
Icelandic is the only living language with þ and I think only Faroese also uses ð
in Faroese ð doesn't correspond to any particular sound though and is mainly there for etymological reasons

>>77981401
>>77994432
I have no problem with these but I always have to ponder for quite some time whether or not jam an additional P or N (or both in worst cases) in "opinion"

>>77996521
I can see that. It must be tough, our spelling is total nonsense.

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>Learning how to spell

All browsers have in built spellcheckers

>>77980738
Fucking inconsistent pronunciation, I hate how tie and tier are pronounced completely different. Also have trouble with prepositions because the Portuguese counterparts to the English ones aren't always used in the same situations

>>77996508
Why did Sweden/Norway/Denmark get rid of those letters but Iceland kept them?

Spelling Schwarzenegger.

Learning English is one of the easiest things I've ever done.

>>77996508
I kind of dig the appearance of both of those characters, aesthetically. Especially ð and Ð.

>>77996710
I believe it's easy for Swedes. I don't know any Swedish but I've studied some Norwegian on Duolingo and I've been amazed at how much the languages have in common.

>>77996825
It's easy for them because they have lessons from childhood.

>>77983157
>I don't know how to separate the syllables of the words though
Just don't

>>77996692
the sound disappeared in those languages (and later reappeared in Danish but in different places)
Old Norse/Icelandic þar (there) -> S/D/N: der or similar
ON glaðr (glad/happy) -> SDN glad
etc. etc.

>>77996869
Yeah, that too.

>>77996825
>>77996869
Everyone else is quite bad at it though, at least from my perspective. "I saw an spider", stuff like that, since "en" is used more commonly in Swedish.

I remember bringing a few episodes of Blackadder and Fawtly Towers to school, only the teacher and I were laughing.

>>77996903
Why is there no vowel between the ð and the r in glaðr and how is that pronounced?

>>77996983
I believe it's a syllabic r as in most Americans' pronunciation of "butter", as there is no vowel between the tt (often realized as a glottal stop in some American dialects) and the r
in modern Icelandic it's glaður with a u inserted and this happens in every case where ON had a syllabic r

>>77996936
I think the rule for a vs. an is simple and good. It just helps the flow. French has some stuff like that but in their case it's just pronunciation, not different words/spellings.

>>77997134
Oh okay, yeah that's how I was pronouncing it in my head but I wasn't sure.

>>77981989
This honestly, although I can understand most English words I still can't properly use or remember them when I try to make a sentence.

>>77997295
That's just a matter of practice. There, you now have a valid reason to shitpost on /int/ all day. Not that you needed one.

>>77980738
Apparently when someone asks "mind if i ..." you reply "of course" when you mean "no, i don't mind"

>>78000087
Even native english speakers can get confused by this.
>do you mind if I ...
>no
>why not?
>I said you can go ahead

>>77996687
It's cute when foreigners make those mistakes. That's one of the things I like about listening to Korpiklaani.

I don't think English is as many make it out to be, it's just easy for native English speakers to understand less-than-perfect English very easily.

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>>78001886
To some extent, I do think it's easier than most languages. Verb conjugation, for the most part, is very simple, there's no adjective/article/noun declension, there's no grammatical gender, only 2 cases (or 3 if you count genitive) which only really apply to pronouns. That's not to say that English is completely easy, though.

>>77980738
Still can't get pronunciation right.

>>77981411
can confirm

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>>77982243
>Israel
>Teeth are fucked

Tenses, articles and conditionals.

>>77989177
I will never understand why so many people cant make the rr sound correctly. I guess its different because im a native speaker but it doesnt seem difficult to just press your tongue against your top palate and blow no matter how you look at it

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1XHJWB98fnI

How does a brainlet learn another language boys?

>>78003424

I don't think i could ever roll an r honestly.

>>78003424
You have to actually learn how to relax your tongue to be able to do it.

the hardest part of english it's mostly that it has a lot of words, more than any other language, and those words are also often have an arbitrary pronunciation. the grammar itself is simple even despite it has a more complicated system of tenses than most of the other languages (so russians tend to rarely use some obscure tenses mostly preferring past simple, present simple and future simple as the core). for russians it's also confusing not to omit "to be" in the present tense, which we tend to do automatically, and to use articles which the russian language lacks whatsoever (so a typical runglish it's something like "but you wrong i read book about it")

to learn the proper common phrases to avoid the funny looking blueprints from russian stuff like that from that russian joke "mgimo finished?" which was supposed to mean "graduated from mgimo?" as well as the proper prepositions (that's pretty hard), also to learn to understand the spoken language etc etc while it all is hard it isn't something specific to english

>>77981411
English is basically German without any rules, probably felt freeing

>>77990110
put your tongue between your front teeth and blow

>>78003777
I tried learning Russian, but it felt like I had to think backward and upside down and learning a new alphabet thats basically runes was too hard for me

>>78004170
Cyrylic is really easy to learn. I needed only 1 hour to be able to start reading russian.

Is the "sh" sound particularly difficult? Mexicans seem to pronounce it more like "ch"

>>77984114
I think certain accents like Welsh and Louisiana sound kinda effeminate, but I imagine that's got to be the case for at least one dialect of any language.
>>77984520
>conversating
It's a common lower-class term in the Midwest.

>>77980738
All vowels have, at least, 2 different sounds depending on the world.

And the most common vowel sound, Schwa, doesn't have a letter in the latin alphabet and it is not used in the written form of any word. (ə)

English is so diffrent from Japanese in every aspects(grammar and letters and pronunciation.....)
Why is this shit language the world coomon language?
Fuck English

>>78004170
Start off with another language in Latin script, like Slovene or Croatian. Then, go from there to Cyrillic. After you learn Cyrillic, Greek is a breeze.

>>78004170
Try harder bro, ive only quit on two languages in my life, Arabic and Japanese, Arabic because you have to learn two languages, Japanese because fuck learning 4 alphabets for weebshit

what's so special about learning an alphabet, like you have to learn a few thousand words to be able to have some grasp of the language, you also have to learn its grammar etc and you are scared to learn literally 30 symbols

I guess I had some troubles with conditional sentences, just because. But other than that, english is probably the easiest language that I have learned. Just the fact that you have so much information in english and so much english learners makes it super easy to learn. The hardest language that I have been learning, if you exclude lithuanian, latvian and russian is probably danish. It is quite similar to english, but the fact that there is almost no advanced learning courses on the internet, zero good movies and only shitty youtube channels makes it impossible to learn on your own. I have given up on it and started learning german, at least there are much more people using this language.

>>78004170
alphabet should be easy, you just need a little bit of time to get used to eat. the hardest park is probably grammar in russian. but if you learn grammar, it will be super easy to construct sentences in russian. But for english natives, russian is probably a bit too complicated. I would recommend you to start learning something different, if you want to see a faster progress