Why should we use English?It is not fair,isn't it? Because

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>>77973909

Or we could all turn back time, speak french a bit, everywhere, you know
le bon vieux temps

>>77974041
french is much more difficult than english
so you would need to invest much more money and time to teach the world how to speak french.
thus, english is better as global language

>>77974041
fuck off frenchie

let's all learn Icelandic. It's the superior language

>>77974041
But french is so diffrent from Japanese.
What about Esperanto?

>>77974092
þetta

>>77974121
>Esperanto
Isn't the vocabulary of Esperanto mainly based off Romance languages? It will still be quite different from non-Euro languages desu.

>>77974121
>Esperanto
fucking gay
don't talk to me ever again you nipger

Esperanto a shit
Interlingua is the future
>>77974121
every european language is so different from japanese.

>>77974329
Really?So uhhh what about Chinese?
>>77974514
I get it.I'm so sad that Europe and America dominate the world.

>>77974682
Learning a language for a japonese is going to be really hard regardless of the language because You guys speak an isolated language which does not have anything or not much in common with other languages.

>Japan is more responsible than any other nation for the total dominance of the Anglophone world
>worse at English than Third World elementary school dropouts

>>77974817
>japanese
>isolated language

>>77974682
>So uhhh what about Chinese?
不可能。
你会了解中文吗?
And well, in the end the only non-Euro international languages that have somewhat influence are Arabic because of religion or Chinese or "Hindustani" because of sheer numbers of speakers around the world, but then again, the majority of those are Nativespeakers.

>>77974817
But Korean language is like Japanese so we can speak and use fluently if we learn Korean like English

>>77974925
>The Japonic language family includes the Japanese language spoken on the main islands of Japan as well as the Ryukyuan languages spoken in the Ryukyu Islands. The family is widely accepted by linguists, and the term "Japonic languages" was coined by Leon Serafim.[2] The common ancestral language is known as Proto-Japonic.

That is not isolated(sarcasm)

>>77974925
Out of curiosity tell me where esle japanese spoken outside of Japan?

>>77974986
thats not true.

>>77974817
They also have a ridiculously limited phonetic system

>>77973909
I've seen an article written by a Japanese traveler
He claimed that Japanese and Mongolian are very similar grammatically ("it is enough to substitute words and you get the same meaning")

>>77974986
Both languages may have come from a same common language

>>77975026
Officially: Angaur, Palau.
>According to the state constitution of 1982, Angaur's official languages are Palauan, English and Japanese. It is the only place in the world where Japanese is an official language, as it is not the official but rather the de facto national language of Japan. However, results of the latest census show that in April 2005, there were neither usual nor legal residents of Angaur aged 5 years or older who spoke Japanese at home at all. No person reported or was reported to be of Japanese ethnic origin for Angaur. One person born (but apparently not residing) on Angaur reported to speak Japanese and Palauan equally often at home.

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>>77974939
It isn't fair I'm so sad.
>>77975026
Korea and Taiwan and Indonesia before 1945(The era of Empire of Japan).
>>77975028
何で?

>>77975114
Unironically their phonetic system is somehow similar to the Spanish one.

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>>77973909
Speak better Merican, ya dumb nip

>>77975135
no. the fact is, koreans have a lot of japanese words and expressions cause of the muh colonial period, whereas japanese doesnt have korean words at all except for their nouns like food names. a bunch of chinese are common in ea though

>>77975118
The Japanese article

http://www.smhric.org/jap_165.htm

>>77975147
>Angaur, Palau.
That's strange somehow

>>77974041
Why are you guys so salty about your language no longer being the lingua franca? Why do you hate English so much?

>>77975135
Yeah.from Chinese
So Korean and Japanese has same word(not same pronunciation) and grammars are so like each other.
But now Chinese is so diffrent from Japanese in grammar so it's difficult

>>77975155
Don't worry.
Soon everyone will speak chinese as second language.
At least I assume it will be somehow easier for japanese to learn it since you both have Onyomi and kunyomi pronunciations

>>77975155
simply you cant be fluent at it so easily. its not the same as europeans or those hispanics to learn and speak english. guess it takes you the same time as learning chinese or english.

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>>77975240
>>77975311
I am kinda confused. Who is saying the truth?

>>77973909
english is stupid easy, what you talkin bout

>>77975457
They do not speak an indo-european language. Indeed for Eurofags like us is not that hard.

>>77973909
tojo it's not our fault you and your nation are retaded

>>77975441
As long as I remember, there are litte words in Japanese which deprives from Korean language,
while we have a lot of Chinese words and proverbs.

>>77975492
i know but still
plus it's everywhere with movies and whatnot

>>77975135
wrong. korean is an insular language not derived from chinese.

>>77975549
And koreans have some japanese words and expressions when Japan colonyed Korea.
So Japan and Korea have same words and expressions because of both reasons.

>>77975441
both grammars are "similar" but thats all. academically, nothing in common has still been proven. the origins of words i mentioned are true.

learning korean is hard for japanese anyway. people just assume it would be easy because of the above. but in reality, its as hard as learning other languages. same would go for koreans learning japanese.

>>77975457
>Bulgaria flag
>Europe flag
>English is Europen language

Let's start a movement and only speak Latin on this board.

>>77975709
Puellas pulchras amo :-DD

It's us in east asia's fault for not able to develop modern civilization. China is too easy to unify and east asia is to secluded geographically. So the entire history of east asia we have an thought oppressing chinese empire with its even worse tribunal states, and a few babarian hordes up north. Without competition there's no progression, and now everything is too late

>>77975707
>poor nip
>with superiority complex
>soooo smart
>can't into english
>drink radio active water
>tiny dick
:^)

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>>77975135
The "Altaic languages"-theory is still unproven tho.
>>77975709
Coles :DDD

>>77975701
But many of south Korean speak Japanese flunetly?
My South Korean friends speak Japanese fluently.
So I don't understood he is south Korean untill he said he is south Korean.

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>>77975811

>>77974092
Just unfucking your own language should be enough.

>>77975707
and yes bulgaria was and still is in europe and was yuuuge at some points AND had sewers at a time when your implied europeans were throwing their shit from their windows on the street

>>77975811
P.S. my dick is big.

Also I do believe Shang Dynasty actually did the most cultural exportation of the entire east asian history. Not only in Central america but also some siberian and pacific tribes did archeologists find cultures that use similar artstyle/writing system and religious rituals. But i think a culture that heavily uses human sacrifice is better dead than spread

英語ない界語
英語は界数二語
いつ私になる界皇 "ロイバン" 界語

>>77975802
Good post. It also explains the rate of progress for the US in the 19th and 20th centuries.
>take aforementioned competing yuros
>throw them together in a place with a common language, virtually unlimited resources, and minimal regulations

>>77975981
Xi...

>>77973909
If you have a better idea for a global language, I'd like to hear it

>>77975968
Yukio please

>>77973909
speak Anglish eh!?

>>77975842
its just those korean weebs actually dedicated themselves to learning japanese. we dont even know learning finn or korean, which is easier for japanese. anyway what i wanna say is this matter is different from the matter of those euros speaking english. learning korean is not like that for japanese.

LEARN JAPANESE
We could compromise on Kanji like we do for many Gaijin here

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>>77976235
I think so,too.
Use Japanese,you guys

>>77976293
>>77976235

I just finished my first lesson of Minna no Nihongo

はじみまして。私はアノンです。学生です。よろしくおねがいします。

Aaaaand that's it folks.
lol

>>77976045
angrish

>>77976383
アノンちゃん可愛いね 愛してるよ俺の愛しい恋人よ

>>77976383
ご専門は?

>>77976235
漢字だけじゃなくて尊敬語等も難しいからな~

>>77976508
>アノンちゃん可愛いね 愛してるよ俺の愛しい恋人よ
Google translate says that it's pretty gay.


>>77976579
医学生

Next year I will finish Med Uni and go to Germany to study in another discipline

>>77973909
Because the English-speaking (((people))) control the banks

>>77973909
Right everyone must learn Russian instead, 4chan is russian speaking board.

>>77976602
まあその辺は大目に見てやるよ
上から目線だけど(笑)
>>77976761
You are so hot.I love you(^ε^)-Chu!!

>>77973909
You should be glad that English is international language, it's quite easy to learn, much easier than French I'd say. Yes, English men have advantage over foreigners in terms of speaking English, but, when you learn English you have advatage over them because you know 1 more language than they do on average as they do not have need to learn foreign language. Be proud that you're not from US or Bongland.

>>77976761
That's cool
Good luck then!

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Japan, the answer is simple. Just kill everyone who doesn't speak your language.

It worked for the English.

>>77973909
Even for a Spaniard like me that English is painful to read
Go get some lessons Murakami

Spanish should be lingua franca desu

>>77977340
It would be, if only Hispanophone countries were more successful.

>>77977340
Spanish is a very beatiful language.
I don't know it but certanly wouldn't mind it to be Lingua Franca.

>>77977340
Written form maybe.
Not in speech though.
Ala, Latin should be.

>>77973909
that's cause Japan & a lot of countries where English is taught as a completely foreign language make it hard for the language to be taught properly, they really fuck it up for you

>>77974041
French is much more difficult than English

>>77973909
why does my country have to learn english bawww
it's not fair bawwww
everyone should learn japanese bawwww

>>>/allnationz/

>>77977838
>try to learn French
>is that t/s silent in this word?
>ask French person for clarification
>get beaten up for not knowing perfect French
They don't make it easy to learn. It's very difficult to pass as a native English speaker, but it's a very easy language to learn basic phrases. We're far less protective of our language, seeing as it's already a mutt tongue.

>>77976235
It's too hard and I wouldn't gain much from it. Japanese are notoriously insular and xenophobic people.

>>77974041
Turn it back further and speak Latin
I wish I wasn't a brainlet and could speak Latin

I don't hope Japanese is spoken as a common language like English because it is unacceptable for me that Japanese gets raped by foreigners;
foreigner's Japanese is so awkward and incomprehensible that I feel even great sorriness for my ancestor having developed Japanese language.

>>77978042
Aren't Polish schools basically Catholic schools? That's how I picked up the little bit of Latin I know.

>>77977444
>if only Hispanophone countries were more successful.
how could the USA possibly be more successful?

わかり手

English is superior in theory.
>like the way you pronounce words and letters, English sounds "cool" or at least, (Ecclesiastical Latin also has this characteristic, when not sung that is, and it's always fucking sung.) When men speak french they sound like total faggots, Spanish, Italian and Greek sounds awful; SLOW THE DUCK DOWN. Most languages have this ugly sounding aspect to them, which English does not.

Just have to change some spelling inconsistencies, a certain spelling should always be pronounced the same every time, and things that are pronounced the same should be spelled the same.
There are other examples I've noticed but forgotten to write down, and can't remember right now. Like vague linguistic "rules".

>>77978430
More people here speak English than Spanish here. I'm surprised you didn't know that.

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>>77978496
Standardizing English might make it easier to learn, but it would ultimately be bad for advanced understanding. There's almost always an etymological reason for why a word is spelled a certain way, which helps to more clearly define some of our technical, philosophical, etc. words. There's also muh history and culture.
>>77978501
>More people here speak English than Spanish here.
And here I showed my command of the English language here.
>mfw

CATALONIA IS BETTER LANGUAGE THAT SPANISH

>>77978744
Sure.
Big words should be left alone, but big words often are all from Latin or Greek, and are spelled as they are supposed to sound.
The problem is with Norse, old English and Saxon/Anglo words getting mixed up.
Tear and tear. English needs to get back Æ for the ''Ä'' sound in Tear. So Lisa is tæring Tommy apart.
English just needs umlauts and diæreses.

>If you did this to English, it would become very similar to Swedish, in its written form.

>>77979147
>English needs to get back Æ for the ''Ä'' sound in Tear. So Lisa is tæring Tommy apart.
Yeah, I could go for that.
>English just needs umlauts and diæreses.
No umlauts.

>>77974121
Actually Esperanto would be a good compromise for a united european language. Not sure it will help you with non-Japanese languages, tho.

>>77978775
Do you got proofs?

>>77973909
>So English troubles us who speak languages which are one of the most diffrent from English Because of that.

So write in a language that's closely related to yours, such as Turkish

>yaniyooooooom

>>77973909
This is SJW-like-logic.
We speak it because it evolved like that.

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>>77979485
>be me
>lazy and retarded
I tried learning Slovene cuz muh heritage, but I gave up after about 10 minutes. At least I can kinda pronounce things now, and it was great seeing my grandma's face light up when I said Slovenian words like her parents would have said them.

>>77979497
>SJW-like-logic
>SJW
>logic
Isn't that an oxymoron?

>>77978501
but spanish is the most spoken 2nd language, and is shared by all your neighbors except the north
if USA were to switch to any language it would be Spanish

>>77979362
interlingua is better in every way and can be understood by most romance speakers without any previous knowledge

>>77979980
>spanish is the most spoken 2nd language, and is shared by all your neighbors except the north
All of our neighbors? You mean the one to the south and one the territory we possess? If we're counting islands as neighbors, then why not include Greenland?
It's about influence, which they don't have to the degree that Anglophone countries do, especially in terms of economics.
>if USA were to switch to any language it would be Spanish
They said that about German a century ago. Then it was Irish, Yiddish, Italian, Polish, and so on. Spanish has a longer history than English in the southwestern US, so it's only natural that it's so noticeable there. It's really not that common in the rest of the country. In communities outside of the southwest, Mexicans are assimilating in the same way and at the same pace as previous immigrant groups.
Ultimately, we have no official language, and I like it that way.
>in case I was replying to a post that was just haha meriga is spics memeing
If you want to discuss this in a way that's based on memes, I'm not interested.

>>77978095
You're raping English right now.

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>>77973909
Finnish is very different from English and yet Finns have a very high literacy-rate in English.

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>>77980787
>feel even great sorriness

>>77980980
>finn being smug

whoa.....

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Persian should be lingua international to be desu

The EU should return to using French as its lingua Franca, now that Britain is leaving the EU and the alignment between America and Europe got weakened. Virtually all European institutions are in French cities anyway, so are the orignal treaties.

In a multipolar world Europe needs a distinctive lingua franca from the US.

>>77980980
English and Japanese are far from being the most dissimilar languages but there's no country that speaks English as badly as Japan. Probably because they spend all their English-learning budget importing Deibiddo-kuns instead of real teachers

>>77981255
koreans and chinese are the same

though i know you wont believe it

>>77981144
>In a multipolar world Europe needs a distinctive lingua franca from the US.
Oh, man. That's just kinda sad, buddy.

>>77981534
Chinks are way better at English than you guys, though. Never been to SK so I can't say about them

>>77981744
nah. you probably only see what you want like those exchange students in america. mainlanders dont only consist of them.

>>77981886
>you probably only see what you want like those exchange students in america
Not him
It's not really do much what we want to see so much as what we just happen to see. Chinks in the US have accents, but they generally don't seem to have the level of difficulty with it that japs seem to have.

>>77981886
I'm sure peasants in Anhui have Jap-level English, true. But the tier-one mainland cities, some tier-two ones, and also HK, Singapore, and Taiwan all have better English speakers than anywhere I've been in Japan

>>77982074
Obviously the ones who come here learn some English you moron. Chinese people *in Asia* are also better than the Japanese at learning English

Maybe you shouldn't have lost WW2 then.

>>77982149
>you moron
Rude.
My whole point was that, even if we're only talking about east Asians living in the US, Japanese still seem to have a harder time with English than the Chinese do. I was softly refuting his point and effectively buttressing yours, you silly cunt.

>>77982074
almost all of those people living in east asia do NOT use english in daily life. your brain doesnt work well like you suddenly recall everything you learned once you read a manual in english for instance. to be good at a language you must keep using it everyday. otherwise you forget shit. and more than 99% of east asians end up in it.

>>77982491
See above >>77982329

I'm not the poster you were talking to; I just jumped in. I was referring only to your statement about our experiences with Asians in the US.

>>77982491
Ime the difference between Japanese and Chinese high schoolers, both learning English in class, is huge. A large proportion of the Chinese ones are reasonably fluent while the Japanese ones are just not

>>77981255
japanese has difficulty and/or lack of interest learning a second language just like USA.
difference being that Japan has a working public education system

>>77973909
dum jap poster

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>>77973909
yes

>>77973909
Hey Dan hope you're well, how's the English teaching going?

>>77982564
>>77982700
cause those chinese literally want to live there or get such a job.

the object itself is different. most japanese exchange students go there to experiment something different from what they know. also most aint rich. koreans are like, they just want some good-looking academic background to get a high-paying job at a big company in sk so they get there.

yall sound like some bigots talking about eugenics, and its ridiculous. asians here in ea wouldnt be competitive such a way coz they know they all are equally shitty at speaking english. ive actually never heard that shit from chinese or average koreans except for those retarded patriotic koreans saying that shit despite not speaking english at all.

>>77983319
gotta love nips

>>77977340
Maybe one day

>>77983397
>yall sound like some bigots talking about eugenics, and its ridiculous.
That's unfounded and unfair. I can only speak for myself, but my assumption would be that it has nothing to do with genetics. It's likely due to a combination of social factors, including the ones you listed. That said, I stand by my observation that the Chinese in the US speak better English than the Japanese in the US, and that's all I'm asserting.
And the few Koreans I've met spoke without a Korean accent, but spoke something between standard NAE and AAVE. It wasn't proper English, but, by the way they spoke, I assumed they were natives until they told me they grew up in SK.

>>77973909
we are not from an english speaking country though

>>77974041
French is dead, as much as German, Japanese or Polish, just accept it

>>77983776
man, like i said, that chinese DO NOT represent average mainlanders. what i was talking about is just that. for the limited situation in the us, you might be right. they probably are experts in english as native east asians cause they would study it hard such an elitist way. but i thought we were arguing over each average east asians comprehension of english and i just told you the fact that any of them aint so different.

>>77984327
You're responding to more than one person. In my experience Asians in Asia are worse at English than people in other parts of the world, and among Asians Japanese are the worst. Best at most other things, but not speaking English

>>77984327
I'm only talking about Asians in the USA. The other American poster is making the claims about Asians in Asia.

>>77976966
>You are so hot.I love you(^ε^)-Chu!!

oh I want japanese girl to say this to me

>>77974817
>is so diffrent from Japanese
This is fucking bullshit.

Isn't Finnish so different from everything else too yet Finns are really good at English?

>>77983247
Actually, the education system is the problem. AFAIK japanese english classes are basically "ERREYONE REPEET AFTER ME: 'OR-AN-GEH'" "NO NO NO, TAICHI-KUN! IT IS OR-AN-GEH, NOT ORANJE! PLEASE COME IN FRONT OF CLASS AND SAY IT PROPER!"
They are taught english wrong, that's why they won't learn it. That is also why "going to japan and becoming an english teacher" is so popular and still pretty easy, even though nowadays you need to be a native speaker of english in order to get to teach it without a degree. I think I'm pretty fluent but would be unable to get a job teaching english in japan because of my nationality. At least I think so, on the other hand we have a reputation of good senpais, so..

>>77973909

we chinese now

从现在开始说中文

My wife is Japanese and she speaks it well enough. Only with texting does she fuck it up very often.

>>77986268
You can't get in without a degree unless you're married to a Jap. The companies dgaf but it's hard to get a visa otherwise

>>77984327

nope. chinks are waaaay better at english than you. you know it, we know it, everyone knows it

>>77975274
We don't hate english, and most of the french people have no idea that french was the lingua franca long ago, they don't even know the term lingua franca either. Most of the french people have no idea what influence had our country in history.
But those who know a bit about the history we aren't told, the great history of France that the anglo-saxons like to hide with lies, they are a bit sad, obviously.

How many of you fags need google translate to read our posts?

Russian is the answer!

>>77987726
me :<

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>>77986963
>start reading this post
>bretty gud
>mfw end gets all dramatic
You French are always one wrong word away from a spree of decapitations. How long has it been since you last saw a group of people marching through your neighborhood, standing up for their "right" to another 12 weeks per year of employer-paid vacation?

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>>77987726
I only use google translate when i want to write long texts. My grammar is somewhat shit
my reading is perfect

>>77978042
/thread

>>77974041
I see no problem with French as global language, although I don't like France and I don't want to share my global language with niggers. German is a lot more dominant in Europe than France could even wish for. It's a lingua Franca (no, not French) for central and eastern Europeans. But I think German is too dificult for most people of the world, so French would be better for them.

>>77973909
>So English troubles us who speak languages which are one of the most diffrent from English Because of that.

this, we are treated like the stupid with language disorder.

>>77990694
Finns, Hungarians, Argentines, Filipinos, Malaysians, Indians, even Indonesians can speak better English than Japanese, and half of those countries are Third World dung heaps. No excuse

>>77978095
>it is unacceptable for me that Japanese gets raped by foreigners
Funny, this is how I feel when I hear japs try to speak english
People having funny accents because they're from eastern europe or south asia or whatever isn't so bad, but when you guys do it it's literally unbearable to hear

>>77973909
Because the anglosphere won world war 2. Now everyone needs to use their language and watch neo-liberal propaganda in cinema, on TV. That's not to say that German or Japanese shit smells any better.

>>77992874
Ireland is more neoliberal than any real Anglo country though

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Submit your ideas of a language to replace English as the global lingua franca. And list your reasons.

I've sampled other languages, they either have retarded concepts like grammatical classes. genders, speech levels or they speak in riddles like Chinese and Japanese.

Arabic is the next english

الله أكبر

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中国征服美国以后。 你们就会说汉语

>>77974092
B A S E D
A
S
E
D

we can even go back to Old Norse pronunciation since it makes slightly more sense with the spelling than modern Icelandic

>>77980980
Because finnish is an irrelevant language in global scale

>>77986963
Why would we try to hide your accomplishments? Flattering your rival is flattering yourself: we uplift you as a profound nation so we look all the greater when we win.

It's Yanks who do it. And Yanks, as we all know, are essentially German. You have been subjected to the pervese whims of the eternal hans yet again, my froggy friend.

The Japanese have convinced themselves that learning English is impossible for most of them because they are wired differently or different from other humans.