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Is there any country capable of doing a Singapore and going from

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Is there any country capable of doing a Singapore and going from third world to first world in just three decades?
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>>77963080
The Philippines
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Rwanda's a good bet
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Taiwan, S Korea, and Ireland did that
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>>77963235
>Taiwan, S Korea
But that was thanks to Japan.
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>>77963235
That's true but it wasn't quite as dramatic a shift

>>77963209
I don't see how
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>>77963080
1975 Spain to now
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>>77963263
>because of the Philippines

ROK is only an independent country because of Philippines' involvement in the Korean war, whereas without any Filipino workers, Taiwan (and Hong Kong's) economy would collapse overnight.

>>77963276
I have spoken. End of discussion
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Iran if
stop brain drain
form secular way of government
martin luther reminiscient reform
their history in 70s suggest that they were once down this path (i must claim to have biases, i have made very good friends with two iranian engineers in the university and were polite)

Russia if
more investment into infastructure
removal of current parliment and restore democracy

Poland
suggests that they are somehow doing better than russia now hopefully cultivates

iono senpai there are many countrys (outside of the continent africa) that can develop nicely if right people are put in place!
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>>77963080
we could, but its not going to be anywhere similar
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>>77963376
>Russia

Nope. It's too big, there is no democracy to restore and if Russians started doing good, they might be prone to demanding reforms which would endanger Putin's standing. Plus Russians are bred to be respondent to authority and it's far easier to get out of Russia than trying to reform it.
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>>77963080
Some place in Africa.
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>>77963080
Yemen after they annex Saudi Arabia.
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>>77963363
>without any Filipino workers, Taiwan (and Hong Kong's) economy would collapse overnight.
>ROK is only an independent country because of Philippines' involvement in the Korean war

this is just pathetic and you know it
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>>77963566
t. chang
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>>77963209
only with duterte as supreme dictator
else its going to continue being a shitohle no jk
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>>77963465
>>77963220

It's just not possible.

t. race realist
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>>77963080
We're a fucking joke. It was just a dream that's now crashing and the only guy that knows how to fix it is dead.
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>>77963591

im not chinese and i dont give a shit about your chink city state.
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>>77963080
>British colonial legacy
>Rely on third world slave labor
WOWWWW economic miracle!
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>>77963713
t. Zhang
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>>77963698
uh, are you guys in recession? your GDP is taking a dive, what gives?
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>>77963235
First two were propped up by American CIA niggers and ROK was a literal fascist dictatorship. In many ways the country still is.
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Lots are, but not under democratic rule. General Park did it for Korea too. The Japanese did it during Meiji rule. Singapore was just following the same playbook.
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>>77963376
>outside of the continent africa
Why are Japanese so racist?
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>>77963727
>Mongolian warmongering shithole
>gets cucked by America into adopting """"""democracy""""""
>economy's a joke
>negative interest rates
You're not that better off either
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>>77963698
er, okay. don't break any laws and try to be nice. good luck and welcome.
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>>77963080
singapore is just a chink city state/colony you dumb gook.
vancouver could become a chink city state if they break 50%. unfortunatelly for chinks they dont breed like muslims or groids.
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>>77963833
Nah, I got a job in Canada, planning to move there this fall. Gotta leave this fuckin shithole before it sinks.
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>>77963776
He's right though. There are measurable differences between them and the rest of the world. They are simply never going to be as successful, though they might eventually be propped up by outside forces enough to be considered "developed"
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>>77963684
Chinese going there are not for nothing.
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>>77963777
Japan is the one country not conquered by mongols, idiot
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>>77963856
Why doesn't singapore just bring in a wealthy fuerdai mainlander investor immigrant program? Ride that Chinese capital wave but watch out for your real estate prices.
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>>77963777
mongolian? are you stupid!

and no we are far better off
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>>77963900
>Ride that Chinese capital wave
Did you miss the PRC capital control recently?
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>>77963376
Iran won't because they don't want to be 1st world (western American slaves)

also your friends are not your typical iranian, most are religious nutjobs who want to make the country medieval again

the country that could pull it off next is Cuba
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>>77963080
Singapore is basically a city state though
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>>77963452
>Russians are bred to be respondent to authority
What the fuck are you on about faggot?
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>>77963929
I have a minor in economics, and I am qualified to tell you that Japan's economy is literally out of this world. Interest rates are negative, Inflation is negative and your productivity is shrinking. I really don't know how you guys are gonna pull yourself out of this, because right now the only logical course of action is immigrants, and that's not even a solution, that just reduces the problem. You guys are gonna grow yourself to death at some point. Many economist professors I know project you to destabilise in 100 years at least, if this keeps up.
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>>77963978
will invade malaysia and get clay soon
will grow larger than swiss tho
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>>77964003
every weeb is going to say....

fucking robots.
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>>77964003
Japan will collapse economically but they will be no worse off than in 1923 or 1945. Singapoor will cease to exist as a cultural and possibly physical entity
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>>77964033
FUCKING NANO MACHINES
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Nigeria
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>>77964026
I don't think Singapore has an army...
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>>77963978
t. jewing bank state

>>77963963
>the country that could pull it off next is Cuba
lmao
t. cuban chicano
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>>77964046
>not emigrating
What's wrong with you? Australia's literally open to us at least right now. Turnbull literally just gave us exclusive visas to take on professional jobs there.
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>>77963978
So? What difference does it make?
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why to be first world?
why to copy the most savage race on earth (whites)?
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>>77964071

There is going to be a native Australian uprising against immigration soon, I rather not be killed
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>>77964026
That will burn their american protection which is just stupid.
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>>77964003
>immigrants are a solution
(((who))) wrote your textbook?
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>>77964057
They do and they even have mandatory military service so the population is pretty prepared
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>>77963945
>implying the PRC can actually control its outflows

I hadn't noticed any greater restrictions, over here in Vancouver. The number of Rolls Royces around only seems to be growing.
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>>77964108
Fucking hell, I specifically knew this shit's gonna happen. I said THAT'S NOT EVEN A SOLUTION, can you READ?
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>>77964071
I don't mind that. Singaporeans are generally the best Asians in my experience
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>>77964108

are we talking about the jews or the lizard people?
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>>77964104
We are too easily distracted, it'll just be against muzzies
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>>77964104
Then move to Australia then move to New Zealand, at least you're out of the blast radius of nuclear bombs.
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>>77964126
>there is a difference
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>>77964124
WHAT THE FUCK. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SAY WE'RE FULL, FUCK OFF.
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>>77964162
singaporean birthrate in australia is less than 1. theyre not a threat.
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>>77964193
Yo do I need to know some French when I move to Canada? I know some cities like Toronto has a large population of French-Canadians.
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>>77964124
australia will become a chink colony in 100 years
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>>77963777
>third world country education
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>>77964057
They do. All boys have to do compulsory service for two years after they finish school.
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>>77964260
Meanwhile Panama still won't be 1st world despite the massive advantage you have over your neighbouring countries. You know why not?
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>>77964273
Not like you're any different from mongols anyways.
>>77964274
How does India's military service work?
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>>77964072
it's relatively easy to develop a relatively small island that had already been established as an international trade port that is located on a chokepoint of one of the world's most valuable maritime trade routes. there are reasons why japan and britain fought over that in ww2.
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>>77963746
>American CIA niggers
Is that you, based computer god man?
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Is singapore rich due all the money laundered by chinese elites from countries like thailand, indonesia, the phillipines, etc?
I have read a book that says 500 billion from indonesia corruption are hidden in singapore
also being in the middle of an super important maritime strait helps singapore
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>>77964120
The news around seems to indicate that its working for them
http://www.businessinsider.com/capital-controls-stop-mainland-chinese-real-estate-buyers-2017-05/?IR=T
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>>77964238
No unless you want a certain government position. Ive lived in the gta for 25 years and never used french outise of french class.
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>>77964162
We're full of love and appreciation for our Singaporean brothers
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>>77964312
Eh there's a lot of reasons why they're rich and mostly it's due to clever things that they've done. It's not as simple as that
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>>77964336
and lived paycheck to paycheck the entire 25 years

>Not being a member of the designated federal ethnic masterrace
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>>77964294
lol
ok go ahead tell me about my country
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>>77964058
unlike you, Cuba is highly educated and only needs foreign investment to become 1st world
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>>77964402
I was wondering if you even knew.
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>>77964299
>t.economy joke country
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>>77964413
why can't they do it without investment?
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>>77964437
know what? lol i thought you were going to say something. afaik we-re doing fine ty

>>77964413
like those cuban medics that practice witchcraft.... wtf lmao. cuba is a meme
ya te vi colombiANO izquierdista
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>>77964440
Stay mad dumb gook.
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>>77963080
Easy to do it if you jut sap all business from the surrounding areas.
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>>77963993
>Stalin
>Putin
>those around here vote for Babiš

They can't seem to accept good countries are made not because of their leaders but because of the laws and hard work of their inhabitants.
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>>77964511
>why can't they do it without investment?

Can't make money out of nothing!
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>>77964587
>because of the laws and hard work of their inhabitants.

completely all for nothing if a leader can't make good use of that.
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>>77964511
It will still happen, but will take a lot longer
investment is like steroids, it makes 100 years of development happen in 20

Look at China they only grew as fast as they did because of investment from the USA and Europe without it they would still be a 3rd world shithole not much better than Africa
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>>77964609
>can't make money out of nothing
Not with that attitude
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From a geographic standpoint, Djibouti has a fair bit in common with Singapore: both are small countries located very conveniently on major trade routes. China just built their first ever international military base there. Keep an eye on it.
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>>77964666
They don't speak English or any sort of useful language though.
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>>77964624
>if a leader can't make good use of that

How? To wage war, build monuments to himself or any other vanity project? People can make good use of hard work and good laws themselves, as long as the Great Leader doesn't get in their way.
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>>77964666
> ethiopia is landlocked because of 2 little shitholes
unacceptable
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>>77964666
Djibouti is 33 times bigger the Singapore land wise and 6 times bigger population and muhc more educated.
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>>77964714
>People can make good use of hard work and good laws themselves,

You need a good head of state an government to channel that to something useful
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>>77964666
>hdi - low 172nd
>sorrunded by erithrea, ethiopia, yemen
I can see they become some kind of safe place of the region but nothing more.
Its a muslim country full of niggers.
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>>77963080

Cuba and Haiti
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>>77964743
>much more educated
I can argue against that.
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>>77964800
>cheating gooks
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>>77964795
For some reason God seems to loath Haiti. Not going to happen.
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>>77964795
Haiti is still in ruins after the earthquake 7years ago.
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>>77964800
I made a mistake I mean Singapore is much more educated.
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>>77964755
No, you don't. The best thing the government can do is nothing. Nothing leads to stability and stability leads to progress. Once an okay legislature is passed and enforced, the ebst thing the government can do is nothing.
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>>77964809

>For some reason God seems to loath Haiti

For some reason? Pirate island of Tortuga is in Haiti's borders, there is a definite reason why the christian god almighty disdains them
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>>77964866
>be Czech
>whole economy is dependent on the porn industry
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>>77964901
They also killed and harassed out white people
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>>77964905

>be han chinese
>flag has a literal muslim crescent on it
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>>77964905
>mad because his government bans everything fun
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>>77963363
>ROK is only an independent country because of Philippines' involvement in the Korean war, whereas without any Filipino workers, Taiwan (and Hong Kong's) economy would collapse overnight.
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>>77964995

>be meme island
>not even a real country, just a region of PRC
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>>77964941
It was the French actually.
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>>77964026
>invade Malaysia
>implying
Fyi they still under a forever land leash
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>>77965022

What are you implying? Quebec is best part of Canada
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>>77964301
>ang mo kio
Kek
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Why doesn't Malaysia just mimic Singapore?
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But Singapore isn't first world. Singapore is a shit place, very third world.
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>>77963080
Hold my beer
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>>77965052
Full of muslims
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>>77965064

Implied in the crescent, Li Xiao Mohammad.
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>>77965052
Haram here, haram there.
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>>77965052
Because we are not them nor we wish to be like them, next question.
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>>77965018
t. english teacher
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Anyone who doesn't want to emigrate is insane.
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>>77965078
Not really. Muslims on the west side, christian on the east side.
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>>77965101
Didn't you get some sort of security app too recently?
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>>77965114
>60% of inhabitants are muslims
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>>77965101
Based
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>>77963080
we did

1945-1975
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>>77963263
Singapore too.
Besides Japanese ODA, role model that Lee Kuan Yew learned, and investments in the 70-90's, it wouldn't have existed as an independent country in the first place had it not been for Japanese liberation.
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>>77963080
All developed asian countries have been sustaining by Japanese money and its technology.
Do not forget it, you vitiligo.
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>>77965154
>Italy
>First world
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>>77965185
we were considered 1st world before the 2000s
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>>77965161
>rly make me think
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>>77965161
>American money and Western technology.
Fixed.
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>>77965095
>nor we wish to be like them
Why not? From what I see they are better than you in every measurable way. Even as strict as they are it's still better than living among Muslims. Their strictness at least almost always has some functional value, not like yours
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>>77965210
>t. pedo vitiligo in Singapore
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>>77965215
What with the "It'zmuzzylimbs" schtick you are pulling?
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>>77965195
ah taiwan, the famous japanese territory.
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>>77965215
Because Malaysia is about giving privileges to the Malays to keep the Chinese at bay. It's more important to study the Quran all day because this world is temporary and Allah will reward the pious in the afterlife.
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>>77965234
You can't make a case when there's no case. Japan's really shit and America's your crutch to staying alive and you know it. We're shit too but you have no case against us seeing how fucked your country has become.

You never felt what's it like to have actual paid leave, health benefits and a 9 to 5 job.
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>>77965161
>>77965234
>vitiligo
Why do you keep using this? Do you think it means halfblood or something?
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>>77965210
and japan's the biggest sponsor of america anyways
not only historically but also economically you are literally standing on the shoulder of the taitan called japan ;^)
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>>77965332
are these the shoulders you are talking about?
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>>77965332
To be honest, I really don't give a shit whether Japan supports US or what. You're all living a nightmare, all wage slaves that don't know the meaning of having a work-life balance. People there are super materialistic, no wonder suicide rates and prostitution, running away from home has been a bigger problem there than other developed countries.
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>>77965215
Nah I prefer my conservative society as it is with some gradual changes and some more discipline, don't care much for the rest.
They have their path and we have ours.
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>>77965377

Atleast you and Singapore can agree that killing pot smokers is necessary to maintaining public order. The absolute state of SEA wtf guys do you even want to be first world
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>>77965412
So we can check our privileges.
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>>77965290
I never knew murica built social infrastructure such as universities, hospitals and so on like Japan.
If so, how come middle east are still fucked up?
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Finland did pretty well 1991-2017 after Russians stopped robbing us.
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>>77965433
RIP. Sorry about your jews
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>>77965439
At least middle easterners have regular jobs with 9 to 5 work and health benefits, did I not mention they have a 6 day work week?
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>>77963080
Panama and Uruguay are arguably in the process of doing just that in the Americas. You've gotta compare like for like, Singapore is basically a city-state ffs, it's unique circumstances do not aply to larger nations and you can only compare to very small countries capable of leveraging unique circumstances.

Island nations in the Caribbean or the South Pacific are the ones who should be studying Singapore closely. Aren't the most developed nations in Africa very small islands?
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>>77965330
I do not like you savage pigs who fucked up asia, oceania, north and south america and africa.
Give the land back to aborigine.
And get out of asia.
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>>77965508
Fuck off, nip scum. Australia did nothing wrong. Maybe America needs to nuke
you again to let you know your place.
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>>77965412
>killing pot smokers
They don't do that anymore unless you get caught with cocaine labs or something with tens of millions dollars worth of drug. Most of the death sentence end up delayed permanently or given forgiveness by the king because MUH HUUUMON RIGHTS.
Now drug gangs are rampant since they knew they are highly unlikely to end up dead or shot by the cops and occasionally truck the police since the cops can't shoot them unless fired upon.
Its pretty funny when you go the Friday prayers sermon and the imam goes 'We need leaders like Duterte to clean the streets'.
>you will never get to shoot up druggies in Project double barrel reloaded jihad edition
Why even live?
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>>77965353
nope, those are cowardice of amerifats manifested in two clouds, who shitted their pants out of fear of fighting japanese soldiers on the mainland
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>>77965365
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>>77965575
Sure, when the emperor literally shit his pants when the slavs started rushing in from manchuria into Japan.
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>>77965528
>Australia did nothing wrong.
Hilarious
It seems the festival in Nanking was not enough, you chink who sucks white's ass.
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>>77965433
What is the racial privilege like there anyway? Non-memeingly
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>>77965528
that's not a very proper attitude toward your liberator, eh? ;^)
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>>77965607
>you chink who suck white ass
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>>77965619
See: >>77965353
At least we didn't get nuked kek. Oh yea and that further shows that nips are savages.
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>>77965632
:-DDDD
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>>77965616
Malays/Muslims are rejected from the Air Force and Navy except for a few token individuals.
Some employers use the "Mandarin speaking only" requirement to filter out non-Chinese even if the job doesn't actually require that language.
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>>77965616
Chinese top Malays bottom.
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>>77963080
Yeah if your country lays on the crossroad of half of world sea trade routes.
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>>77965500
>Island nations in the Caribbean or the South Pacific are the ones who should be studying Singapore closely.

Wouldn't apply there at all Cortex.
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>>77965678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-nYlG7_Aw
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>>77964866
The problem of this region is that without a """strong tyranic leader""" it automatically turns into endless war of everyone vs everyone.
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>>77965678
Obama was a traitor currently hiding in a non-extradition island.
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>>77965678
Are we posting historic photos now?
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>>77963363
t. Jose Luis Bangalay
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Singapore is a small China. extremely, that's probable if there's a country similar to China
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>>77965764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0DZUI2JOc
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>>77965687
>>77965689
what about wh*te people
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>>77965764
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSxIJDT76I8
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>>77965764
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South Africa
they used to be first world back in Apartheid times.
might bounce back.
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Why are Chinks always defeated and colonized by Japanese in the history?
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>>77965687
yeah, japan is the only nation in history that required the entire world force and nukes to be stopped, which shows us to be the masterrace and is why we were able to liberate asia despite incredibly great odds

>>77965712
you can't indeed.
rather, what makes you think a meme city state can follow literally one of the most powerful great powers in the first place?

>>77965752
>>77965759

>g-guys w-we defeated japan (with british empire, soviet union, china, and dozens of other allies)
top kekky
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>>77965790
>wh*te
>people
>>>/x/
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>>77965914
You're really really deluded, I hope you know that.

And you do know that US is the one that's 80% of the coalition in the pacific war.

Never thought I would see this level of autism.
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>>77965914
Whatever nip, but don't get surprised when no one wants you to purify their water.
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>>77965721
That's because your cops and judges are not capable of enforcing the rule of law
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>>77963993
I confirm this. Russian were bred to be prone to dictatorship and totalitarian ideology like kommunism. If you are skptical about it, you can read russian philosopher - Berdyaev (Бepдяeв), who provides a lot of poofs and links for that. And I have been grown in Russia, trust me, casual russian are different in mentality than westerner. We are like exactly in between the West and The East.
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>>77966235
That does make sense, I do not feel like every day's a living nightmare, although my country's particular strict with things. Although many Americans wouldn't really like it here.
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>>77963080
Bravo, Singapore
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>>77966235
We are hybrid county aand nation, we are the most effective to survive.
Our life style is not comfortable for individual, but is good for nation as a whole. Think about evolutanary concepts. The West and the East are too much specialized, which is bad for the species.
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you fucking retards need to learn what first and third world means
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>>77965849
>they used to be first world back in Apartheid times.

They never were lol.
ONly the whites had developed conditions. the rest was complete poverty undeveloped shit.
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>>77966663
>He hasn't realised /int/ has an average intelligence level about on par with a teaspoonful of cum
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>>77966708
You give /int/ too much credit. At least that teaspoonful of cum has the chance of producing a a wonderful human being.
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>>77966404
Amos Yee looks like he is living a nightmare.
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>>77966931
He leaves court with a victory sign and a half eaten banana smiling.
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>>77966960
Would you vote him if he runs for president?
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>>77966404
I know a lot of Americans who like it.
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>>77963263
Not in the 1960s
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>>77963452
This. Culture and mentality needs to change in Russia, otherwise it will go no where.
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>>77963080
singa is like a moderate muslim country. its moderate but still religiously(morally) strict and you easily get jailed by authorities like in a shithole when expressing opposition to its regime

i mean , no thanks. fuck that chinky commie regime. taiwan is far better
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>>77965974
>third gooks country education
Where china?
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>jap vs swisschina

A wonderful thread
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>>77967057
Voting for him, is like voting for Trump because I want to have something to watch on the news.
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>>77965156
>Japanese liberation
Go fuck yourself honestly,war crimes denier
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>>77965156
Pay for war crimes please
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>>77964003
>have a minor in economics, and I am qualified
Fucking aye lad, a few hours worth of course credits at a uni doesn't make you qualified to lecture on a topic. You stupid manchild.
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>>77964104
>native Australian uprising
Aboriginals are of the smallest ethnic demographic in the country. We likely have more of you SEA monkeys here than natives.
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Finland did it

Thank you our based dictator Kekkonen
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>>77965194
Italy isn't, though. It's a smelly shithole full of Arab and other North African rape babies.
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>>77964312
yes, singapore is a tax haven for the rich in asia.
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>>77970982
Stay mad third country gook
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>tfw you actually want latam countries to succeed
Will they someday make it, or are they all doomed to middle income limbo?
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>>77971247
Abos aren't Australians. I was referring to Australian natives, aka whites
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>>77963080
The Soviet Union did that in two decades, while fighting a massive war.
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>>77963263
1949 SK was poorer than subsaharan africa
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>>77964312
No, its never that simple. Because if it where, Tax Havens or Ireland would be rich nations.
Rich people fleeing is just a bonus.
You still need to acquire that currency,
and spend it on something that reinforces the nation.
And deal with internal corruption that will arise from expansion, before it hurts your growth.

Getting a economy is actually balls hard, and often efforts to improve the economy stops at surface level, because investors/politicians already gotten benefits. Its also the same reason why building Railways/infrastructure is rare, but always see massive benefits once they are built out.

>>77964511
>>77964609
Its one thing to slowly use your natural resources to build a economy. Its another to use them, and some foreign aid/investments, and make it go faster
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>>77964312
Lmao the majority of the money in Singapore is from non-Chinese

Believe it or not, but no one likes paying massive taxes.
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>>77965914
>japan is the only nation in history that required the entire world force and nukes to be stopped

So this is the IRL equivalent of "wooow it took 3 of you to kill me" huh. Also nukes were hardly "required", by the time Truman made the decision to drop the nukes Japan's defeat was already inevitable, but a land invasion would incur some American losses to so why bother when we could limit the casualties to only nipmonkeys.
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>>77977610
Ah hah! America finally admits it, the nukes weren't necessary at all. So sick of your people pretending it was the kind and humane thing to do, it was done almost entirely out of hatred and wanting to project power in the new world order
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Brazil could do it in 10, but our government is too corrupt to do anything in favor of its people.
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>>77977549
Why such a straw Austrian debate position? Are you scared that public mobility might be worth it, if the nation isn't a shithole?
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>>77977795
I think you're forgetting that Brazil is full of Brazilians
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>>77963839
Get cucked Anglcuck
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>>77963698
I wouldnt worry about it
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>singapore collapsing
can we finally build that canal now UK?
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>>77979357
> tiny country cockblocking your progress
pathetic
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>>77963080
they just dead inside. the intellectual will move away from there
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>>77980104
>panama
>US builds your canal for you
>cucks you for half a century by occupying that canal
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>>77977721
"necessary" only in the strictest sense that they were not the only possible method of achieving the surrender of Japan. A land invasion would indeed have inflicted more deaths on both sides so yeah, it was in fact the more humane option regardless if Truman actually made the decision with that in mind. You don't have to hate japs to see it was the most logical action from the US side.
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>>77980215
> panama conquers american territory with diplomacy
> 6 years later doubles canal capacity by building a new set of locks
you have it wrong m8
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>>77980279
Actually there were other plans asides from a Land invasion by the military.
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