/lang/ - Language Learning

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>Language learning resources:
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

http://www.duolingo.com/
>Duolingo is a free language-learning platform that includes a language-learning website and app, as well as a digital language proficiency assessment exam. Duolingo offers all its language courses free of charge.

>>>/t/746368
>Torrents with more resources than you'll ever need for 30+ languages.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk#
>Google Drive folder with books for all kinds of languages.

https://fsi-languages.yojik.eu/languages/oldfsi/index.html
>Drill based courses with text and audio.The Foreign Service Institute (FSI) is the United States federal government's primary training institution for employees of the U.S. foreign affairs community.These courses are all in public domain and free to download.Site may go down sometimes but you can search for fsi on google and easily find a mirror.

https://www.memrise.com/
>Free resource to learn vocabulary, nice flash cards.

https://lingvist.com/
>It's kinda like Clozemaster in the sense that you get a sentence and have to fill in the missing word, also has nice statistics about your progress, grammar tips and more information about a word (noun gender, verb aspects for Russian, etc.)

ankisrs.net/
>A flash card program

https://www.clozemaster.com/languages
>Clozemaster is language learning gamification through mass exposure to vocabulary in context.Can be a great supplementary tool, not recommended for absolute beginners.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/
>Tatoeba is a collection of sentences and translations with over 300 hundred languages to chose from.

radio.garden/
>Listen to radio all around the world through an interactive globe

https://forvo.com
>Has pronunciation for lots of words in lots of languages

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http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-difficulty
>Check out information about languages and their difficulties

http://lexicity.com/
>An invaluable resource for comparative language study as well as those interested in ancient languages

http://cosmogyros.tumblr.com/post/108962232110/huge-new-language-learning-collection
>A very extensive language learning collection for 90+ languages.

http://www.dliflc.edu/resources/products/
>Similar to FSI, drill-based courses with text and audio issued by the US government.These courses were made for millitary personel in mind unlike FSI.

http://en.childrenslibrary.org
>Lots of childrens books in various languages, categories 3-5yo, 6-9yo, 10-13yo.

https://www.hellotalk.com/#en
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.

https://www.italki.com/
https://www.mylanguageexchange.com/
https://www.interpals.net/
http://www.gospeaky.net/
https://www.speaky.com/
https://polyglotclub.com/
http://lang-8.com/
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:

http://www.goethe-verlag.com/
>A mostly free site which offers audio and drill like exercises for 40+ languages.

http://www.languagetransfer.org/
>A free resource with recordings to learn a language.

https://babadum.com
>Flash card game with a focus on vocabulary.

http://context.reverso.net/translation/
>A website like Tatoeba (also has a Firefox extension!)

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>>77882953
Learning German, always looking for people to practice with.
Please do not use Google as your dictionary though, I use dict.cc and recommend it if it has your language

>>77883026
i enjoy wiktionary

>>77883026
I use dict.cc as german-english, even though I'm not a native english speaker.

English and german are so similar it makes more sense than trying to translate straight to finnish.

>>77882641
It's the case for the ones I mentioned too. I learn English by reading Wikipedia and learning to program, not by listening to gangsta rap. Two birds, one stone, etc
my life is the very definition of fun btw

>>77883166
I don't know about Finnish, but the English-German on there is really good I think, so if you are good with German I can understand trying it. It does fairly well pointing out the different context for different words/phrases
>t. Apparently now a dict.cc shill

>>77883212
btw what's the french opinion of romanians? gypsies?

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>>77883248
No I'm good with English, just starting out with German.

Started making this pic. I don't think one exists yet? I don't really know what else to put in it, I'm not that far into this.

What is everyone's reason for learning a language?

I am a boring horrible prick who's suicidal and I want to learn Mandarin so I can teach Chinese abroad and maybe delay my suicide.

>>77883443
Sorry, I misunderstood. Has anyone actually tried that Rise language learning program? I agree with the thing that Duolingo is really more a vocab supplement than anything, but I take classes at Uni so I don't know of any free resources to learn grammar and stuff. I wonder if there is a free uni course material available online; I know I see tidbits when I search some grammar online from universities

Also put that when learning vocab you learn the gender with it, and to make an adjective ending chart for the different cases

>>77883574
im going to brussels in a month so i have to learn french in order to not feel like a dipshit dipped in shit dip

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>>77883574
No real reason, self improvement I guess.

>>77883646
get michel thomas on that list

>>77883363
They hate the parasites, but are actually OK with Romanians who either stay in their country and work, or come here, learn the language and contribute to society. But the ones who beg for money to the point it's become organized criminal networks are hated. We're aware not every Romanian is like this though; I even know of some guys who went to Romania because med school is easier there or something.
Another thing I've noticed is that Gypsies (the gangs who roam the land not even speaking the language, stealing anything they can for quick bucks and even pimp their girls) are often romanticized in movies, songs and novels; no idea why. Lefties love them and jerk off to the dramatic side of it; while alt-righters are disgusted by it.

>>77883574
>Engish
to get into programming + there are more info written in English as a general rule
>Arabic
because religion
>Norwegian
was learning this when I was still planning to live in Norway, changed my mind since so gave up on it

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>>77883621
I managed to get myself on an online course from a local school. (So it was in Finnish.) Can't say it was terribly useful, I think I would have made just as much progress with youtube and duolingo.

>>77883678
Added, couldn't think of anything useful to say about it. I haven't listened through it yet myself.

>>77883574
>What is everyone's reason for learning a language?
it's interesting and fun

Is it weird case for colonial language to not stick out, like Indochina?

>>77883574
Started learning Turkish for my wife, but the relationship fell apart so now I'm trying to keep at it to repair what I can.

>>77883798
>Is it weird case for colonial language to not stick out, like Indochina?
I'm not sure I follow your question

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>>77882953
>learning Portuguese for a year
>can type with ease and understand stuff much better
>"wow your Portuguese is so good!"
>try to communicate verbally
>autism explosion and shut down

>>77883921
>autism explosion and shut down
It's called "being nervous". Just keep doing it.

>>77883893
I mean that nobody here knows the colonial language (i.e. French).

>>77884179
If South Vietnam had won the war chances are Vietnam would have French as an official language still. The communists were very anti-France.

>>77884179
good question, now that you mention it's true that your region is an exception in this regard. Maybe you simply have a stronger culture/history/identity compared to Africa and the Americas?

>>77883732
>was learning this when I was still planning to live in Norway, changed my mind since so gave up on it
Why?

>>77883921
iktf. I'm shy and anxious in general, so attempting to speak in another language is always a challenge. We'll get better, hang in there.

>>77882953
Teach me English and Japanese

>>77883574
Been studying Japanese for quite some time to read compelling content, but now I'm at a point in my life where I want more than just Manga and hentai.

>>77884443
You already apparently speak some English. :o)

>>77884443
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahA9S-f2Vlg

>>77884426
red pill + religion + met my family who're still "back home" and decided to live with them instead
working on it right now

>>77882953
>Studied Spanish for 7 years (10 if you count compulsory classes at school) and lived in Spain for 2 years
>Able to read and write perfectly fine
>TFW still sound like a fucking weirdo when I speak, I get so fucking embarrassed sometimes

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>>77883732
>musulman
>en France
>a eu des plans de s'émigrer à Scandinavie
>codesinge
Est-ce qu'on peut-être plus stéréotypique que ça?

>>77882521
Korean:

Dictionary
http://dic.daum.net/index.do?dic=eng https://zkorean.com/dictionary/search

Translator
https://href.li/?http://translate.naver.com/#/ko/en

https://www.reddit.com/r/Korean/comments/rq3th/the_ultimate_beginners_resource_thread/
http://domandhyo.com/ (Korean with comics and shiet)
https://www.naver.com/ (News site and search engine)

>>77884467
excellent video friendo

give me French stuff to listen to. If this was Spanish I would listen to several hours worth of reggae ton but frenchies apparently are above it

>>77885093
Full of french media recs here, lad.
http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/French
I recommend Joe Dassin and Yamasuki (not in French but made by French japanophiles)

>>77883921
i used to start shaking whenever i spoke spanish or german to customers at work, now my heart just beats a little bit faster. keep speaking

>be american
>try to understand foreign languages
>result: https://my.mixtape.moe/pkukrh.webm

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>>77884882
>codesinge
Pas tant que ça, non. Mais bon, ici les gens cherchent le maymay épique comme Mme Michu cherche le clash en zappant sur sa télé, donc forcément on le voit partout.
Si pour toi un musulman qui étudie pour avoir un travail honnête et apprend la langue ainsi que les coutumes d'un pays où il souhaite émigrer, non pas pour les aides sociales mais pour les opportunités d'emploi, est un stéréotype; on vit carrément pas dans le même monde. Même des globalistes comme BHL ou Attali auraient la décence d'admettre que ce profil est assez atypique parmi les immigrés.

>>77885093
What kind ?

>>77883921
Try over voice chats, it'll help.

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>>77885475
I don't know how you missed the first two, those were easy

>>77883574

I guess self improvement
to experience a different culture and for "fun"

>>77884463
>>77884467
I cannot speak and understand English. Teach me English.

And,

日本語を教えてよ!

>>77883574
My synagogue organizes projects to go subvert other cultures in different nations around the world, and we get to pick where we go from a list as long as we learn the language enough to be successful in our endeavor over the course of 2-3 years.

>>77886815
Fuck off Trudeau

>>77886770
Opinion of Jim Watkins?

>>77886770
英語より日本語のほうがならいやすいかもね、韓国人の場合は

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>"good" in Mongolian
caйн (sajn)

>"good" in Mari
caй (saj)

KHAN'D

>>77883811
Well we have a saying for relationships

Seveni sikerler, sikeni severler.

Maybe it'll help, probably not.

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>>77884882
>tfw i got the gist of what you were saying without relying on romanian
FEEL THE PROGRESS BABY

>>77886998
the hungarian relation is showing

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Can anyone help me out and tell me what's a forking "lidded crook"?
It's appeared in several Kanji already, and I still have no clue on what that might mean.

>>77889229
>crook
Whoops, it's crock.

>not including my Turkish chart

>>77889229
it's like a pot
look it up on google images

Is memrise just a meme? It's basically Rosetta Stone.

>>77891217
It can be useful, but you need more than just memrise.

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Hey, so I worked on this.
The people from /djt/ have mixed feelings about Heisig but other than that they don't have any problems with it.

>>77891606
There's a lot of /djt/-specific memes in there, pal. You sure that's not too much for outsiders?

Also I don't think going straight from learning the kana for a day or two into reading is the best method.

In terms of RTK, I think it's more important to tell people what they're getting into rather than whether or not they should use it. I was a big supporter of it but after a while I realized it was a huge waste of time.

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I started learning Spanish a month ago, and around Christmas have an opportunity to go to Spain for a week. I'm studying on average two hours per day, do you think I'll be able to understand anything by then? Maybe be able to get around a bit? Or will it be too soon? I'd be about 5-6 months into my study by then.

>>77891673
memes?
There's only dekinai-chan and that's as a joke. So people know when they see her.

The rest are what i used and I found out on my own from sites, youtube and different people though maybe some came from /djt/.

I guess it might not be best, but you learn as you read. Spending a week or so learning the alphabet or hangul or any language is pretty bad. Since you see them in action when reading you are better adapted compared to somebody who just spent ages looking at the same characters for a week.

RTK I agree it's not for everybody but I learnt 2000 kanji in 3 months and wwas hopelessly lost without it. I struggled for ages drilling kanji for months to no avail. It really helped me out, sure there are other methods but that worked a lot for me, it's a mixed bag really, and optional.

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>It seems that everyone here can speak 2-3 languages
>When you're 24 years old and only A2 EngRish """""speaker"""""

>>77891782
Well "here" is a pretty special place and you could quite easily still change that. I'm 25 and I just started learning german this year.

>>77891840
How to fight jealous?

>>77891606
Looking good!

I know nothing about studying Japanese, but is there any Duolingo or maybe listen and repeat type stuff for it like Pimsleur?

>>77891877
There is Pimsleur and it's pretty good.

Don't waste your time on the Michel Thomas, though. Unless you wanna learn that "ice cream" in Japanese is just butchered English.

>>77891782
I'm 31 and only speak English, just starting to learn Spanish. It's great that this thread has multilingual people rather than all neophytes since they have experience to share with us.

Life tip as a 30+ year old: Try not to compare yourself to others. Instead just know where you are at, and set achievable goals within your own bounds of what you are capable of, and keep improving constantly in life. Every year pick something to really work on for self-improvement. Language, health, family, whatever.

>>77891911
Interesting. I've been finding Michel Thomas is pretty good for Spanish. It's not an end all, but a reasonably good tool to have combined with everything else.

>>77891873
Just don't give a fuck? There will always be people that are better than you. There will also be people that are worse than you. Just deal with it and move on.
>>77891991
Also this.

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>>77889274
Updated and final version. Next time the new OP better post this.

>>77891991
Yeah the Japanese one was done after he died. It's not him in the audio. It has some British chick that repeatedly pronounces "manga" the way you say "mango."

And yeah the life tip is good. I wish I was 24 just learning a language again. After years of Japanese I had to admit to myself I'll probably never go to Japan or have a conversation with a qt3.14 Japanese girl so now I'm learning Spanish.

>>77885093
https://youtu.be/5RQ-UcKtgVQ

a classic song

>>77891606
What about Tae Kims book? Everywhere else it's the recommended book for Japanese.

(not used myself)

Another important thing.

I know many of (including myself) were grasped at some point by more than one languages.
"Oh this Russian movie is cool I really should learn it" "I like kpop better start Korean together with my three other languages I like" "Why not Chinese?"

Just stick to one, don't let the fad of the week mix up your progress.

>>77892616
yeah this is hard. I want to learn Latin, Spanish, and Mandarin for different reasons. I see Latin as a gateway to all European languages, I need to self-teach myself Spanish to test out of a class for college, and I want to learn Mandarin because I want to to teach English in China.

I really have had to shelve Latin because it's just not important enough at the moment

>>77892504
I already put it.
It's a free website, the book costs money.

>>77892504
Tae Kim's guide is definitely a great resource, especially since it's free and on your mobile device so you can look things up on the go (even without internet).

>>77892616
There are some hardcore polyglots out there that learn 2-3 at a time. I envy them.

>>77892924
I envy anyone who can speak multiple languages. I try to talk to spanish speakers on /int/ and I am looking up every other word even after years of on-and-off attempts at learning it

>>77883574
PseudoNEET, a way to spend time. Also saving up to go on a trip to Iran next year, so knowing some of the language seems useful.

>>77893071
Paying homage before we glassify it and divvy it up between India, Iraq, and China?

>>77893095
REEEEEEEE, IRAN DID NOTHING WRONG
>Iraq
This is no longer Saddam's Iraq, they would fight with Iran

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>>77892992
>after years of on-and-off attempts at learning it
That's my Japanese in a nutshell.

It really does suck. I can see myself getting better at it, but I just lack the drive to keep learning. Then I forget a bunch.

>10 years of learning Japanese
>I'm at the level of someone dedicated spending 12-15 months

I've discovered this show recently, it's cringy a little bit, but damn Lola is hot despite being a bitch
https://youtu.be/Dfb9-ZTCA-E
https://youtu.be/a339H_aqXx0

>not watching girls undress for that immersion

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1djGXLykZOdGZ

>>77893538
>https://www.pscp.tv/w/1djGXLykZOdGZ
Broadcast not found…
What's happening now?

>>77893630
you missed everything

>>77893642
; ~ ;

https://incubator.duolingo.com/courses/cs/en/status

For that one anon waiting for Czech on Duolingo

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>>77893538
I never get that lucky.

>>77896350
http://www.liveomg.com/?filter=periscope.tv

Just wait

>>77896798
I follow a few Spanish speaking ones to listen to at night, just haven't found the right ones yet that get lewd.

>>77886815
Kek. A JDIleaF

>>77891766
With dedicarion you will be more than ok.

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>>77891782
>tfw I know 14 languages and am fluent in 6 of them

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>>77897624
Thanks. Working on my adjectivos demonstrativos today.

Have some OC.

>>77888699
Thanks mate, I'm hoping I can work something out with her. I'm really worried about her, she's here in the states alone and has been pushing everyone away, even her family over seas.
I think she may have BPD and I'm hoping if I can talk with her in Turkish she'll be more willing to sit down with me again.

>>77898808
>I think she may have BPD
that's literally every broad. It's romantic/sweet you are learning her language just to talk to her though. no homo.

>>77892648
Does your college not offer Mandarin? If you're doing a traditional four year you'll end up having a few semesters where you need extra classes to fill in the minimum hour count, I'd say don't bother testing out of Spanish language and just take Mandarin. Unless you already have all your classes planned out and set in stone that is.

>>77892225
Thanks bro, those podcasts are helpful for me at work. I'm stuck in a greenhouse most of the day and can't really sit down with an app to study during the day.

Made some flashcards for my russian, took forever, but now I can learn some words I guess.

Now I just also need to not forget all the declensions and shit.

>>77899240
I use Quizlet a lot, but I also like making regular ol' flashcards.

What I do is put the ones I don't know in my left pocket, then pull a few out and learn them, then keep adding to the stack as I learn more. Once I know something extremely well, I put that in my right pocket, and so on until the end of the day - then I put them all back in one stack and go through again.

>>77891766
Considering that you have half a year and that you will be able to maintain that rhythm of study, I'd say you won't have much problem. ¡Suerte con tus estudios!

>>77900912
Gracias mi amigo!

Estudio dos o tres horas todos las días, pero estoy temo aprender muy despacio

>>77892648
>I see Latin as a gateway to all European languages
That's wrong, it would only help with romance languages.
If you are interested in Latin and Spanish (as well as the other romance languages) then this will surely interest you.

(he compares it to vulgar latin though, but it's still pretty interesting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6gEDVV1YYc&list=PL6D46FA0337CE3F3D

http://www.nativlang.com/romance-languages/

>>77901056
Corrección: ...pero temo aprender muy despacio

Ese tiempo es más que suficiente.
¿Hace cuánto empezaste?

>>77901192
Gracias.

Yo estudio sólo para un mes. (don't know the past tense yet to say "I have been studying for a month")

>>77882953
This doesn't work on language with crazy difference in difficulty between reading and speaking right? I probably have C1 in Japanese conversation but B2 in reading. And if it's some kind of crazy medicine textbook of course that goes down even more.

>>77892992
i wanna see it

>>77901321
It's the same as in English.
subject + verb "haber"(with its conjugation matching the subject) + estado + gerund of the verb

I have been studying.
Yo he estado estudiando.

Esto seguro será de gran ayuda.
http://www.spanishdict.com/conjugate/construir

>>77901321
>>77901656
Me olvidé de responderte.
Para un solo mes está bastante bien. Imagínate que te quedan seis todavía.

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So a "thematic dictionary" is a dictionary arranging words by subjects?

>>77901706
Muchos gracias!

Plan on learning latin since I will be doing law courses
Where do I start lads

>>77902072
We don't have a latin chart to my knowledge, but check out the posts following the OP and some of the other charts posted and you'll get a general idea.

>>77901530
veer que? mi espanol? es miserable.

>>77902072
Like always, it depends on your studying style.
The Great Courses Plus has a Latin course:
https://tpbclean.pro/torrent/9453509/TTC_Video_Latin_101_-_Learning_a_Classical_Language

There's also plenty of books, even one that has been mentioned in previous threads:
https://www.amazon.com/Lingua-Latina-Illustrata-Pars-Familia/dp/1585104205
http://www.cambridge.org/gb/academic/subjects/classical-studies/classical-languages/reading-latin-grammar-vocabulary-and-exercises?format=PB&isbn=9780521286220#7vTY8tFt1pTzTbGs.97

http://kickass.to/the-ultimate-latin-language-learning-pack-t6649208.html

>>77902564
I'm a newb so probably shouldn't be commenting on learning Spanish, but, from what I've read if you want to learn a new language density of study does matter. So if you spend 200 hours over five years, it's not as good as 200 hours in five months.

I suspect if you really said "fuck I'm going to learn this" and spent two hours every day for the rest of the year you'd be really good by 2018.

I'm wondering: would it be relevant for /lang/ to perhaps make a quick tl;dr comparison of the most common memorization tools (anki, memrise, quizlet, etc.), giving the pros and cons of each?

>>77902860
I think it varies from person to person. Anki looks great to me, but I couldn't get accents to work on a Mac, so I'm using Quizlet and enjoy it. I'm pay 20 bucks a year or some shit for the Long Term Learning feature but it's really good - I'm even using it for increasing my product knowledge at work.

Memrise isn't a flashcard app you can program, is it? I thought it was a defined program.

>>77902938
>Memrise isn't a flashcard app you can program, is it?
You can't customize courses which were made by others (probably the single biggest disadvantage of memrise), however you can create your own courses (and you don't even have to make them public). You can also add audio and images, but you can't add additional fields (probably the second biggest disadvantage).

The big advantage which memrise has imo is the fact that all answers have a timer.

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>>77891606
Oversimplified a little too much.

KKLC > Heisig
Tae Kim > Imabi (specially for beginners)
Don't go reading after learning kana, unless it's Yotsubato (comes with a reading pack);
Don't do Anki "before step 1", that will fuck you up.

Ideally you could finish Core2k and Tae Kim before reading on your own to ease the burden of looking everything up in a dictionary, could take around 2~3 months.

Speaking of which, you haven't mentioned Core and/or mining words.

>The people from /djt/ have mixed feelings about Heisig but other than that they don't have any problems with it.
Are you referring to the /jp/ DJT people? Becausa I haven't seen this posted on /int/. And I find it really questionable that /jp/ wouldn't have sperged out REALLY HARD about your guide, specially since you're recommending Heisig.

Is the paid ios Anki app any better than the knockoffs?
Irritates me that I can't update my deck without resetting my progress, but the pricetag on the real thing is a bit hefty.

>>77904227
A mobile won't ever be better than a desktop. But you can get it for free on Android. It is an unspoken rule that macfags should pay on everyone else's behalf.

>>77905084
Didn't want the iphone fampai, but it was offered to me for free, so couldn't really turn it down.
And I generally only really use flashcards on mobile, so perhaps it wouldn't be a terrible investment.

>>77905147
I used to have an iTouch I didn't pay for as well, so I can understand. But now that you have a device designed for money burners, you'll be expected to burn your money fo additionals, that's the sad reality.

And definitely, Anki costs less than a basic nippon grammar book and it will be useful for years to come. Everything else you can pirate over >>>/int/djt 's guide.

>>77903991
Maybe he's an older guy still leftover from /a/. Back then there were daily spergfests over RTK and Genki.

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Why does he look so pained?

>>77906502
constipated :o(

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>>77906595

>>Critiquer les roumains quand on est sois même un bougnoule, c'est un peu gonflé.

Duolingo mobile is really helpful for conversations. It has a bot feature now that lets you have simple convos with a few diff bots.

Need more German infographics

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Join the circlejerk Telegram chat.
Shitposting is frequent but whenever languages and its studies come up, it gets duly discussed.

https://t.me/joinchat/E5UFrEP62gd9b8OOIKUoRw

Also, help me sort the lang resources I've compiled and have been posting in these threads.

>>77907317
German:

Dictionary
http://de.pons.com/

Podcasts
http://slowgerman.com/inhaltsverzeichnis/

News, simplified
http://www.nachrichtenleicht.de/

Basic level
http://www.prsformusicfoundation.com/docs/408/Schenke%20-%20Seago%20-%20Basic%20German.pdf

Intermediary
http://www.mercaba.org/SANLUIS/IDIOMAS/Alem%C3%A1n/Intermediate%20german.pdf

https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5214393/Practice_Makes_Perfect_-_Learning_German

http://yourdailygerman.com/german-word-of-the-day/

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=extra+auf+deutsch&nohtml5=False

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5eXzRX4W43DNWM2NnFNR2ZKNHc (Aprenda Alem縊)
http://www.aprenderalemao.com/2010/03/como-eu-aprendi-alemao.html
https://www.thoughtco.com/german-4133073
https://www.youtube.com/user/DeutschFuerEuch
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/22160?msg=welcome_stranger

>>77907568
My fear with promoting chats and such is that then people post in the thread less, which means it dies more. If it's a very busy thread then maybe not an issue, but this one is always on the edge of 404.

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>>77907568
Ehhhhhh... is it worth going through all the trouble of doing this Telegram think to talk with a bunch of nerds in languages I can't speak yet...?

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>>77908456
I just checked it out now and doesn't seem very useful. It's a lot of shitposting. I think I'll just stick with the thread.

I fall for this shit every time.

>>77908456
It's LINE but for terrorists.

>>77907964
>>77908456
Don't worry, it will only absorb dumb phone posters and improve the thread's quality.

>>77908610
I'm the admin and that is legit true.

>>77907568
Didn't expect any results, thank you.

What are some good places to practice with native speakers?
>>77908456
Is that from Youkoso?

>>77909474
The native country.

>>77909474
/int/

>>77909474
Short of travelling there you could try some of these connection services like interpals or whatever. I haven't tried them but worth a shot.

Maybe even find someone on /int/ and convince them for some paypal money to talk with you. They might even do it for free.

>>77909474
https://www.hellotalk.com/#en
>The app is basically whatsapp, but only connects you with people who are native in the language you are trying to learn. It also has a facebook type section where you can share pics and stuff too.

https://www.italki.com/
https://www.mylanguageexchange.com/
https://www.interpals.net/
http://www.gospeaky.net/
https://www.speaky.com/
https://polyglotclub.com/
http://lang-8.com/
>Few more language exchange communities like Hellotalk:
Read the sticky.

>>77909474
>Is that from Youkoso?
No, Oregairu.

What's the difference betelween eё and нeё?
I think I might need something that educates more on structure than duolingo.

>>77912470
I was about to anwer, and then I remembered that I don't know. Kinda strange. Anyways, if you are going to learn Russian duolingo isn't enough, you'll have to learn its grammar.

Try this.
https://pushkininstitute.ru/

>>77912470
>>77913391
Heё is a variant of eё used mostly after prepositions governed by the genitive case.
http://new.gramota.ru/spravka/letters/65-n-mestoimenie
There are exceptions though.

Making own flashcards vs Using premade flashcards of common vocab.
Which is more effective?

>>77914353
Depends. For example, I found an anki flashcard list of the "1000 most common words", but a lot of the translations were wrong/really off/niche cases. Verbs were also awkwardly translated.

Is it possible to learn 2 languages at once? I'm considering learning French + Arabic/Japanese. 30 mins on each language per day.

>>77914353
In my experience, learning Japanese, the first 2k words or so was better learning from a pre-made deck.

After that, reading was the best for me. The context was far superior.

>>77915058
Yes, but not at 1h/day total.

New languages you spend 1h/day EACH. Intermediate languages you spend 2h/day. Advanced 3-4+/day.

So if you're just starting French and Japanese (I understand why you'd need to learn Arabic LOL), you should study 2h/day.

After 2-3 months though, that'll increase to 4-6h/day. If you can swing it, great. Polyglot you shall become. If not, just focus on one. (Japanese takes a LOOOOOONG time)

>>77914909
That's what polygots recommend really.

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>>77915442
Forgot your proxy, mate?

>>77912470
An example where the usage is contrastive:
Oкoлo нee = near her/it
Oкoлo ee (...) = near her/its ...

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>>77915561
Got'im. Typical Australifags.

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>>77915561
>>77916244
No I have to use a vpn to browse 4chan cause korea blocks me.
I forgot to turn it off.
I thought it was common knowledge?

does the chat already exist?
>colombanon

fuck it. I won't be able to see the answer.

>>77916675
Yes, you thought it was common knowledge.

>>77898736
top kek 10/10

So whats up with Duolingo and vocab? I swear I saw a tab on the website that said words but when I clicked it I got an error and never saw it again.

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>>77920801
I still have it.

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>>77920836
Color me jelly

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Have one year to learn as much swedish as possible. My goal: lose my virginity to a friend (girl) from sweden.

I already have prior knowledge of the Swedish Language. Just need to get to a b2-1 level.

Any tips boys? Any Swedes/Finns want to help me?

>>77921011
Do you have adblock? you could've blocked it by accident

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any farsi/arabic learners out there wanna rate my handwriting? This is just day 2 and I'm copying down stuff from google translate to practice.

>>77921316
Whitelisted Duolingo. Did some quick googling and it looks like maybe it's a beta feature only enabled on some accounts? Not sure though. It's late now so I'll check more in the morning.

>>77921357
I'd recommend you to search some videos on youtube explaining how to write in arabic since the handwriting and what you see on the screen can vary significantly.

>>77915355
Why keep study time lower at the beginning?

>>77921402
It's an old feature, I remember using it back in the day. They might be phasing it out rather than in. I didn't see it on my account either.

>>77921555
>>77921402
I've just checked and it's still there.

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>>77921775

>>77889229
It's like when you're cooking dinner, but instead you decide to get inside the oven and stay there because you're Jewish.

>>77907568
The Telegram should be deleted. Telegram is a great app and I've used it for years, but the /lang/ groupchat is godawful. I've joined multiple times over the last year under a few different names and each time it's complete and utter unfunny shit. Nothing to do with languages other than flag emojis. Ignore this at all costs.

>>77922123
It was already deleted once.

>>77922123
I don't get why people complain about this thread being slow, and then attempt to divide the community by pulling this shit. Same this with the Discord channel on DJT while the thread has trouble surviving. This new wave of redditors has been really cancer this summer.

>>77921455
In the beginning there's so much to learn 100% of your time is spent learning new things.

As you progress, you have to add more time since more of the material is already learned and the concepts get harder and therefore take longer to learn.

You certainly can spend 8 hours/day on day 1 if you want, but you're probably going to burn out pretty quickly unless it's your job or something.

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Is there any reason to learn Spanish, Italian, or Portuguese? I have been studying French because that was my first foreign language, and French people seem to be ever present on the internet and media, so I'm just wondering if there's much good media or reason to learn the other romance languages.

Japanese is of course alluring in that regard.

>>77924148
Reading philosophical text in the original language it was written is often quoted as a good reason to learn German, but it also goes for French for Descartes or Rousseau. Descartes wrote his texts both in French and Latin so that goes for Latin learners too.

>>77924148
If you live in America, Spanish is pretty obvious. Aside from that, there are a ton of interesting Spanish-speaking vacation destinations and if you like the women, there's that as well.

If you've already got a good grasp on French, Spanish wouldn't be that hard for you.

Italian and Portuguese are almost completely useless unless you like talking to the BR? BR? fags when you play online games or really like reading about supercars.

>>77924209
On this note, Spanish literature is said to be very good.

Italian seems almost useless compared to Latin.

>>77921402
Yes, you did some googling and it does look like maybe it's a beta feature only enabled on some accounts.

>>77921775
Only shows up in French for me, not there for the JP-EN course.

Is anyone else more easily emotionally moved while reading in their second language?

I remember I was reading an article in Japanese about how a father was chaperoning his son's field trip to the beach and the his son drowned, and it put a lump in my throat just reading it where as if I'd read it in English it wouldn't really have had an effect at all

And now of all things a Pokemon game is making me tear up

>>77923772
i think its a brilliant development. all the generalfolks oughta fuck off the site to literal circlejerk chatrooms instead of turning a board into a collection of such chatrooms

>>77924245
My largest criticism of /int/ has always been (due to human nature) grouping up into similar cultures and languages and sticking there, without venturing to other areas or even discussing with other people. There are many "memes" and other events on the board that I will never be aware of because I have no need to browse /luso/, /DJT/, etc.

>>77924240
Some people claim different languages make different personalities emerge in people. Some people will be more arrogant, extroverted or flirty in certain languages, for instance.

In your case, it might be the opposite: you are already sedimented and cynical in English towards the outside world, but having Japanese as a not-so-hardened language yet in your brain makes you focus on the ideas and on the emotion, instead of focusing on the writing style, the writer or underlying themes like "which agenda is this kike reporter is trying to push this time?!?!".

I for one have grown sick of people and don't socialize, but I'm sure if I went to Japan tomorrow I'd be the most extroverted, friend-making guy, because of this linguistic barrier that avoids me from having a too realistic perception of their culture/true personalities.
It's like detaching yourself from your language makes you idealize things more.

That doesn't happen to me in English, though, it's a language I've become desensitized about already. Whereas some really simple Nipponese lines can warm my heart here and there.

Anybody here ever created an account on VK?

I'm increasingly feeling as though I'll have to create one sooner or later (it's really hugely central in the Russian internet, it would seem), but I already despise having as much as a facebook account; having yet another (((social media))) account would simply make my stomach turn I think. Also, they give the option of logging in to VK via Facebook, but the possibility of it appearing on my news feed or something scares me way too much to risk it.

Learning German. Only a week into it but going to stick with it. It's funny when words and sentences look and sound almost identical to the English translation. Die/das/der is both intuitive and tricky at the same time. Sie meaning both "they" and "she" is annoying.

>>77925297
German is great but the grammar is tricky. French is even closer to English. It's like speaking in Shakespearean with a funny accent.

>>77924245
If you want that then go elsewhere than 4chan. Stop recruiting internet buddies here, reddit might be more your speed.

>>77923772
But if the Telegram group is as shitty as anon said, this is actually good for /lang/. We DON'T want this general to become as inane as /lat/.

>>77925131
VK is not as oppressive as Facebook, social media though it is. You can create any kind of fake account you want. Name yourself after an anime girl and put a drawing up for a picture and you'll still be fine.

Hi I'm learning Russian

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What do you guys think about Esperanto? I'm thinking about picking it up as my second language since it can apparently help you learn further languages, and I like the concept of a universal second language as well as the community.

>>77882953

Learning:
>Korean
I just find it very fun with a ton of media and resources.

Want to learn:
>Spanish
Recently I watched a documentary on Spain and it made me want to move there as I work remotely, so I might pick that back up again. A year ago I was at B2-ish level.

>Russian
Easy, sounds cool, want to read their books.

>Greek
I'm part Greek. No other reason to learn it, really.

>Persian, Arabic or Turkish
Want to learn a middle eastern language. Arabic seems to have the most resources, but sounds the worst.

>>77927403
>can apparently help you learn further languages
any language you learn will help you learn further languages

>I like the concept of a universal second language
no one speaks esperanto. mongolian is more of a universal second language than esperanto is.

>>77927646
Is it not easier to pick up than most languages, though? For a native English speaker, at least.

>>77927674
it takes you less time to learn a real language, than to learn esperanto + a real language. getting stuck in is the best way to learn, not delaying it

>>77927674
>>77927725
Also, esperanto is easy because it doesn't have as much grammar concepts. Guess what real languages have? Lots of different grammar concepts, which you're not gonna get practice with learning esperanto.

>>77921357
Do you write this from right to left

>>77927403
A stupid meme.
Useless.

Don't waste time learning a conlang so you can 'learn' how to learn.

Here, read this instead:

https://mega.nz/#!DNdBHBTZ!13InWwBlP54SckvXi08eIWm6Ua8HJuvZJ5CvG4LMcxg

>>77927403
learn volapük instead

>>77927752
Right to left, it's a slightly modified arabic script.

>>77927403
Fucking absolute meme and a waste of time. Anybody who says otherwise is a retard. Learn a real language instead.

>>77933233
People will always use the "There aren't many speakers, but you can find Esperanto speakers anywhere in the world!", but I believe that's just Esperanto speakers trying to cajole more people to their shitty language to justify them having spent time learning it.

Kinda like a pyramid scheme.

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Is Chinese the most uphill struggle of a language, and the language with the smallest short term returns?

I've been studying for 4 months and spoken Chinese might as well be fucking gibberish. If I had put 4 months into a language like French I'd probably be conversational by now.

Wife and I are looking for a relatively easy language we can learn to teach our children and be special snowflakes

>>77934182
Persian so they can get high-ranking government jobs ruling there once the US takes over Iran

>>77934087
welcome to any language unrelated to your native language

it takes about 6 months to feel "familiar" with such a foreign language. by familiar i don't mean getting good at it, i mean not feeling like you're completely and utterly lost.

i'm studying korean and although a year on i'm still only A1-A2, i'm becoming familiar with the concepts. i don't feel overwhelmed now.

>>77934182
Norwegian
Swedish
Afrikaans
Dutch
Frisian

>>77921191
Bump because I posted when at a bad time

>>77925297
First I was annoyed with sie/Sie, but I got over it. Now there is ihr/Ihr and that's really driving me nuts.

>>77934182
If you are a burger and don't start your kids with Spanish you are fucking morons.

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>>77934280
What do you use to talk to them? I've only found autists on hellotalk so far

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Ech studéiert der Lëtzebuerger Sprooch. Et ass ganz Schiermer. Ech mengen vläicht Ech hunn Autismus. Ech hoffen, datt ech geschwënn opzehalen gëtt.

>>77935126
This is like horrible German but understandable.

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If I want to say "I'm buying one?" in Spanish, is it:
Yo compro uno
Yo compro una

...if the thing I'm buying is a lamp. Does that mean I'd use una since it's a lámpara? or am I just saying the number so it's uno?

>>77934888
Tandem, dude. It's much better, lets you speak to as many people as you want with as many languages as you want. No paywall like hellotalk

Portuguese speakers, know any Youtubers that speak clearly enough to listen to?

>>77935892
alright I'll check it out

Any of (((you))) got some Hebrew advice? I'm just going through duolingo and it's associated memrise course rn.

>>77935649
For some reason "Yo compro una" sounds pretty unnatural to me, but I'm not a native speaker. I would say "Voy a comprar una"

>>77938125
I think "yo compro uno/a" is I buy one, versus "Voy a comprar una/o" is I'm going to buy one.

I guess where I'm lost is if it is uno or una? If it's a lamp I'm buying is it una? Then if it's a glass (vaso) I'm buying uno?

>>77938219
You're right about the gender stuff. When would you say I buy one though?

Anyone have the telegram of the Iranian who posted in the last thread?

>>77935649
this>>77938125
"yo compro una" is the literal translation, but remember that these are different languages and might use different structures and such, so "voy a comprar una" (I'm gonna buy one) is the correct one.

>>77938317
>>77938219
And yes, it could be uno or una depending on the gender of the object you are talking about

>>77938317
>>77938358
Thank you

>>77938257
Solid point. I guess in a circumstance like "How many apples do you buy at the store when you go?" "I buy one"

>>77927403
I'm not ideologically opposed to learning conlangs. I would never do it myself, but I can understand that some people would want to.

However, Esperantists are undoubtedly one of the worst linguistic communities in existence (if not the worst). Don't do that to yourself. Learn Volapük, Interlingua, High Valyrian, whatever else, but don't learn Esperanto.

>>77938967
How do you know they have a bad community?

>>77939151
because every single Esperantist I've ever interacted with has been an utter cunt

I want to learn German, and I know there are a lot of resources here, but I want to know if there's a specific course which you consider is the best one to get started.

I have been learning Brazilian Portuguese at my uni for 2 years now, but I've decided to study abroad in Lisbon, and I want to learn the European dialect. Does anyone know any resources for learning EP specifically?

>>77939813
how autistic are you?
duolingo is an ok normie course
find the german language pack for more textbooks than you'll ever give a shit about
lingvist is a good way to learn words and get used to sentence structure

>>77939993
I just wanted to know what people recommend.
And I am also looking for a course where grammar is taught, not just random words and phrases.

>>77939813
I'm a Spanish learner, but I recommend a combination of tools and then you can narrow down what you like. Lots of stuff is free, and what isn't free can often be torrented, so might as well try a bunch and see what you think will work best for you.

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>>77927591
>>Russian
>Easy

>>77941434
He's genuinely asking how autistic you are though, not being belligerent. He wants to know how much time you're willing to invest a day into language learning.
Basically though if you're just going to do like an hour a day Duolingo is a great place to start. Has the grammar stuff you'd be looking for. Just be sure to use the desktop version as the mobile version scraps the helpful grammar tips included in some lessons.

>>77942022
He's from England, so he already knows Polish.

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>Mari radio website still down
it's ogre, isn't it?

>>77942271
Out of curiosity which version of Mari are you learning?

>>77942271
This is it, mari clampdown now. TIme to move and join the Mari El Independent State Troops Engaging the Russian State, aka MEISTE(t)RS

>>77942271
RadioGarden doesn't have anything for you?

>>77942022
>>77942182
lel

I already speak a slav language that's why

Am I the only one learning Persian here?

>>77942568
What language? Was it hard learining that?

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>>77942394
Meadow

There's practically nothing available on the Hill version (IIRC it represents only 6% of all Mari speakers). For those interested in the history of the Volga region, here's a fun fact which I learned recently: the origin of the dialectal separation between Hill and Meadow Mari is that the Hill Maris were part of the Grand Duchy of Moscow whereas the Meadow Maris were in the territory of the Golden Horde.

>>77942413
>MEISTERS
lel, nice

MAPИЙ ЭЛ MEMHAH

>>77942418
pic related (though it always did that, even when the station's website was still online)

>>77935126
*studéiren
*Ech mengen dat Ech vläicht Autismus hunn.
*Ech hoffen, datt ech geschwënn ophalen ginn.
Not sure what you meant with the last sentence. "I hope that I will soon stop"?

Also here's some resources:
Luxembourgish:

Radio
http://www.eldo.lu/

http://learnluxembourgish.com/
http://www.librarything.com/work/557693
http://www.luxembourg.public.lu/en/etudier/apprendre-luxembourgeois/cours-langue-lux/index.html
https://www.duolingo.com/comment/19593559
http://ikindalikelanguages.com/labs/courses.php?id=80
https://portal.education.lu/schreiwen
http://lod.lu/ Dictionary
https://spellchecker.lu/
http://www.al.lu/index.php/departements/letzebuergesch/331-letzebuergesch-richteg
http://www.worldcat.org/title/roude-fuedem-richteg-letzebuergesch-schreiwen/oclc/436280123
https://www.omniglot.com/writing/luxembourgish.htm
http://www.transparent.com/learn-luxembourgish/
https://freelanguage.org/learn-luxembourgish
https://utalk.com/za/store/luxembourgish
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Luxembourgish_language
https://freelanguage.org/learn-luxembourgish/learn-luxembourgish-with-android-apps
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=CEFB2AC43F0000905B3BF85A9E90D33D
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=DF0B6C416BCFBAE1688AD17F542D94A3

>>77942708
Na, manam farsi yad migiram

>>77942855
I'm still on the alphabet right now, I don't know any of the actual language yet

>>77942808
Oh, and for those who enjoy Orthodox Chants, that city which is just southwest of Yoshkar-Ola (Cheboksary, Chuvashia) has a radio station which plays Orthodox Chants 24/7. It's pretty nice.

>>77942949
Ah, in that case, I'll do that sentence for you and fix a typo
>manam -> man ham
No, i too farsi learn (literal per word translation)

>>77883574
>be me
>don't work at school (pass the classes though)
>want to do something productive but not study
>learn languages

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They tell me pic related is a tremendous faggot who should be shot.

Teach me how to insult skeletons in several languages.

>>77943080
من حی فارس ید میگیرم
Is that correct?

>>77943164
/thinspo/ here, pls no bully.

>>77943164
To say "damn skeleton", I think it would be:
>кepeмeт aйдeмлyлeгe
>keremet ajdemlulege

"keremet" sounds like such a Turkic word, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a loanword.

>>77943290
Yes, except that it uses the other h (هم). That's just one of those things you have to learn. (I believe in general the ه one is used more often if you have to "gamble" on it)

>>77943482
There's Turk influences all through the Balkans and a lot of Slavland until you reach Poland. A lot of Turkish blood too, more than there should be.

>>77943565
>>77943290
What resources do you use learning Farsi?

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>>77943637
A few things from the googledrive/dropbox in the pic related.
>tinyurl com/persian011
>tinyurl com/persian012

>>77943803
In addition to this, I recently learned that Pimsleur has two sets for persian, so I'm looking into acquiring the other. (The first one is in the dropbox or drive, don't remember which one)

>>77942984
>Oh, and for those who enjoy Orthodox Chants, that city which is just southwest of Yoshkar-Ola (Cheboksary, Chuvashia) has a radio station which plays Orthodox Chants 24/7. It's pretty nice.
Is that an Internet radio for which there could be a link?

>>77943164
Squelette de tabarnac de viarge de saint sacrement d' Crisse de ciboire d'ostie d' câlisse
(= en español, esqueleto de tabernáculo de virgen de santo sacramento de Cristo de copón de hostia de cáliz)

In my variety of Spanish, I dunno. I can't match the Quebecois, but maybe something along the lines of:
Esqueleto culero hijuepú andate a la quinta mieeerrrda donde tu nana te parió, mono cerote. Pendejo.

>>77943878
I'll unironically use this. Thank you.

>>77943878
>Squelette de tabarnac de viarge de saint sacrement d' Crisse de ciboire d'ostie d' câlisse
Two improvements that I would suggest:

1) It's much more common to include the noun at the end of the string of profanity. Therefore,
>tabarnac de viarge de saint sacrement d' Crisse de ciboire d'ostie d' câlisse de squelette

2) If you insist on keeping the word at the beginning, then it's better to avoid ending with "câlisse" as the last profanity, seeing as it's much more common for it to accompany a noun. The most common way to end would probably be "de marde/merde", therefore:
>Squelette de tabarnac de viarge de saint sacrement d' Crisse de ciboire d'ostie d' câlisse de marde

>>77937351
You won't get much help, the point of the language is to be a secret language that keeps the goyim out, just like Yiddish was. Easier to subvert people when they can't hear/read what they're planning. It's against they're practice to teach the goyim anything written in the Talmud, you can probably guess why.

>>77944122
>the point of the language is to be a secret language that keeps the goyim out
then why the hell would they make a duolingo course for it?

>>77937351
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2xmsw6xw9au5pqo/AACFe6t_IBnX9h6HM6p7SyO6a?dl=0
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9QDHej9UGAdZ0dJX0NNTHR5UUE

>>77944213
American and European jews have the impetus to learn it, you can probably count on one hand the amount of goyim that use it.

>>77943878
>Is that an Internet radio for which there could be a link?
sorry, was so focused on the Québécois part of your post that I forget about this

Here you go:
http://orthodox-chants.ru/

>>77944213
>put some wrong things in it so you think you're speaking yiddish but true yiddish speaker know you're a mole and make you think they're good guy

>>77944311
This. There's a reason why Shibboleth is a Hebrew word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth

>>77943803
Txh, better delete this post with links, I already copied it.

BTW, is it true that the spoken and written forms are that distant? I bought one Polish textbook, but people on our local forum told me that it won't help in every day situations since it only teaches the formal register.

>>77944072
Thanks. By the way, does "marde" have the same vowel as the a in "la patte", or is it like the a "le dollar" and the o in "le porc"?

>>77944231
Safe la

>>77944321
http://www.persiandee.com/view/colloquial/currentLesson/0
tl;dr
>A crucial point to note here is that in learning Persian, learning the colloquial form is a necessity. If you want to communicate with ordinary people, you should learn the spoken form of the language. If you talk in formal and written language, everybody will understand you but it sounds more weird than what you probably think. Tehrani accent is fully understood and appreciated all over Iran, and it is not uncommon in Afghanistan either, thanks to Afghan returned refugees and Iranian cinema and TV productions.

>>77944489
Aha, thanks

>>77944527
One more note:
This doesn't mean that learning formal is useless. It's just that you probably should learn both, and generally just apply a slightly different set of "grammar" (technically not just grammar but also changes to spelling/pronunciation and dropping of some syllables)
For a clear example, the English wiktionary has the conjugation tables for many persian verbs, in both formal and colloquial form.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%AF_%DA%AF%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%86#Persian

>>77944441
>By the way, does "marde" have the same vowel as the a in "la patte"
yep

Also, in case you didn't know, there's also a third "a" vowel in QC French: the a in "pas".

>>77944628
>This doesn't mean that learning formal is useless.
Yes, I know. Actually I'm more interested in reading books, newspapers etc. It's just that this diglossy is quite intimidating at the beginning, like the concept itself. Some other aspects too, like the ortography, for example, ie. reading is relatively easy, but writing is very difficult.

>>77944938
A way that helps me cope with the concept is that the official language rules were just put down ages ago, and nobody bothered to update them. (Initially because formal was just the language, then because it was the language of courts and diplomats, and eventually it would mean favouring one dialect over another into "official status")

Consider it like what if polish kept it's written/formal language like it was anywhere between 200-600 years ago, but the spoken language evolved as it did anyway. (I have no clue how much polish changed in the past centuries, hence the wide gap)

>>77941434
schaum's outline, anything published by routledge, langenscheidt are supposedly great

>>77942709
i think he's the bulgarian in uk

>>77945063
>Consider it like what if polish kept it's written/formal language like it was anywhere between 200-600 years ago, but the spoken language evolved as it did anyway. (I have no clue how much polish changed in the past centuries, hence the wide gap)
That's my point, here the sociolinguistic situation is totally different because we are descendants of a republic dominated by aristocrats who then became disowned by various occupants and mixed with lower classes so today even former peasants role-play as nobles, we speak literary Polish, we usually have aristocratic-like surnames with the "-ski" or "-cki" endings (it's something like the German "von" or the French "de"). We also don't have distinct regional vernaculars due to other historical reasons. In Persio-sphere it's the other way round - there are various sociolinguistic "strata" (vertically), plus there are various regional dialects (horizontally).

Anyway, thanks for all answers and one more time - you should block access to this webdisc (if it's yours), I don't know how it works in your country, but here there are those firms that look for people sharing materials and then harass them using various legal procedures. I know that it's also a big problem in Germany.

>>77945852
They're not my materials, they're just part of the resources this thread has gathered over time

I don't think I appreciated how close Vancouver English is to the standard language until I started learning Quebec French...
People here often pronounce "egg" and "bag" in a funny way, sometimes conjugate "take" as "take took tooken", and sometimes say "me too" when they should say "me neither". There's also a few lexical items that rarely get written in formal contexts like "attaboy!" and "iunno". However, such things are few and far between.
I don't know if it's because native speakers here just happen to speak in a very standard way, or because standard English has been brought down to be much closer to spoken English. Maybe the latter.
Some school teachers insist you should always write "is not" and "do not" instead of the contracted forms "isn't" and "don't", but anybody who's ever had a look at a newspaper or at academic writing knows it isn't true. Contracted forms are well accepted in writing...

>>77946096
ok, thanks again, cheers!

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how do i start learning hungarian?

>>77946096
It kind of weirds me out how I keep on seeing fragments of The Grammar Pile 3.0, like your first link. I mean, I used to talk to the guy who went to great lengths to collect these grammars from languages all around the world, and it was literally just him alone doing this. He eventually collected grammars for almost 1500 languages, outdoing many universities' collections... Individuals can sometimes change the world, I guess.

>>77947118
Pimsleur.

>>77947251
A passion can truly push man to great ends.

>>77947309
is it any good?
i've heard that it's kinda hit or miss with them

>>77947414
more like autism desu

>>77947417
Well it's not comprehensive or anything like that, but generally they are a good starting point for whatever language you had in mind, if there isn't a set starting point you want to follow that is.

>>77947458
Passion and autism can look very similar, agreed. But autism can push man to great ends too. Emphasis on can.

>>77947626
oh, ok
i think i'll try to get a colloquial hungarian textbook if it exists and start duo and pimpsleur
>>77947638
amen to that 5% euthanasia bro

>>77947118
Duolingo

>>77921191
Bump again

>>77947830
>>77947118
The Duolingo Hungarian course is ok, but it's also a little bit too hard, you can't have the same "flow" as with other courses. Still, it's probably the best place to start. Also use Memrise to build your vocabulary.

From books I would recommend:

Colloquial Hungarian: The Complete Course by Carol Rounds, Erika Solyom

Also for lulz set this game as your home page, so you will always learn a word or two starting the browser:
https://babadum.com/play/?lang=23&game=1

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>>77947874
Check out the resources in pic related if you haven't already.

>>77948276
>use Memrise to build your vocabulary.
i heard that the app has gone to shit
telling you to make 4 hour pauses every now and then
has the site changed?
is it like duo now where you learn much more with the site than the app?

>>77947874
>>77921191
>>77934363
kek

but seriously, there are many possibilities:

https://en.duolingo.com/course/sv/en/Learn-Swedish-Online

https://www.memrise.com/course/1179762/swedish-1/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179763/swedish-2/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179764/swedish-3/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179765/swedish-4/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179766/swedish-5/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179767/swedish-6/
https://www.memrise.com/course/1179768/swedish-7/

https://babadum.com/play/?lang=10&game=1

>>77948276
btw if you speak hungarian can you check the pronounciation here?
glossika is kinda hit or miss
https://soundcloud.com/glossika/glossika-hungarian-spaced-repetition-training-day-15

>>77921357
It's awful.