>This is considered as a sharp, intellectual and based individual

what a waste of time
maybe if you were working instead of going around expensive furniture stores you'd actually be able to afford it

I don't really care if some people can't afford a doctor.

wealth care

it's called budgeting, people just don't know how to save anymore

to think that even our country has public welfare but the USA doesnt really makes you think how much of a shithole country it is

If your name ends with a vowel, youre not American

>>77796451
you can not budget for unpredictable events efficiently

This is why car insurances are mandatory.

some americans will unironically defend this, primitive retards

>tummy tells me to go to a grocery store and i cant afford anything.

>>77796500
What the fuck are you talking about, we have welfare. We even have international welfare when we give billions of dollars in aid to loser countries like yours

>>77796451
you have 300,000$ planned in for health care in your budget?

>caring about the american health care debate

Its just a bunch of dead yanks, who cares?

>>77796535
fuck off Keynes

>>77796578
Perhaps you should stop giving 6 gorillion $ to Israel, Turkey and other shitskin hellholes and instead start providing healthcare for your population.

We've all seen those $15000 hospital bills for a broken toe.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13580817

>>77796219
that's pretty fucked up. I mean, I can see why you'd oppose the way Democrats are going about implementing universal healthcare. but that dude is just straight up suggesting that poor people don't need to be able to afford healthcare. surely he wouldn't be saying this if was a poorfag
s m h 2bh lads

>>77796606
don't get sick then

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>>77796731
you can control if you get sick?

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>>77796829
S H I T H O L E

>all the ameritards gobbling up insurance company cock
Americans are so fucktarded and self defeating it's no wonder it's turning into a brown third world shithole.

>>77796829
hence insurance

the price of care is the problem but insurance isn't

>>77796940
well all the other countries posting in this thread are also already or becoming one too

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Why should lazy niggers and degenerates get the same Healthcare as an upstanding, hard working white citizen?

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>>77796829
>+$70k for semi private room
What in the actual fuck??? For that amount of money for a room, nurses better be dressed like this

>>77796940
Many Americans are just really fucking stupid. They literally are in love with the large jewish corporation cock

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Is this an >America hate thread?

>>77797355
its more like
>we feel sorry for America -thread

>>77797387
Don't feel bad for us. This is what millions of Americans want, to be fucked in the ass by big business.

>>77797432
I just wish I could help Americans somehow.
Germany owes so much to USA, it makes me sad to see your people suffer

>>77797471
I mean the fact the people agree with Ben Shapiro's statement should be reason enough to think we're all fucking stupid

>>77797471
You can't help them. It's sad, though.

>>77797561
But why do so many working class americans support people who act against their best interest?

>>77797609
ideology

>>77797471
You can take the niggers and brownies so america could be over 80% white again.

>>77797609
I'm not really not sure.. if I had to guess it's because many republicans (I don't like democrats either) have this air around them that they're all safe made, and hard working family people with traditional values. So they like them and support them.

>>77796940
the legal fees rise the health prices that high because if theres malpractice the guy can sue the hospital for millions thanks to muh freedom.

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>>77796219
Ben Shapiro is 5'4

>>77797471

gib RUF Yellowbird

>>77797756
Why do people lie about it though?

If you just own up to it no one really cares, but if you like that's embarrassing as fuck

>>77797471
Give us your Linke voters to improve our politics

>>77797756
No way ted Cruz is 5"8

>>77797387
I'm so sorry for >americans because they are FAT AND DUMB xDxD

>>77796660
40% of the population is already covered by some sort of taxpayer-funded health care program, and public health expenditures are higher per capita than in any other developed country.

I think you underestimate just how goddamn expensive American health care is.

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>>77797877
you can have them

>>77797926
We would be better off trying to get kids to not become so fucking fat and unhealthy by teaching them the basics of nutrition and diet

>>77796882
Shit man, things like this are fucked up

>>77796829
>no gratuity charge

>>77797770
no give be RUF Yellowbird not American

>>77797970
That's not even remotely the biggest problem. The boomers are retiring en masse, and they've either got retirement plans that'll cover their healthcare or have voted themselves government-funded health coverage. Their demand is driving prices way the fuck up, which is why healthcare seems so unafforable to us now whereas it was a relatively minor expense only 20 years ago.

>inb4 americans claims they are efficient
http://topforeignstocks.com/2016/10/12/do-americans-get-their-moneys-worth-in-health-care/

now watch as they will keep on defending it

>>77797877
Germany is the only one who would benefit from such an arrangement.

>>77798117
Not to mention wages stagnating despite productivity being higher than ever. Millenials in the US are fucked.

>>77798117
>mfw paying for social security I may not ever be able to use

>>77796500
Not teaching evolution is very American though

Do foreigners think people in the US who get sick are thrown out on the streets to die or something?

They ultimately treated regardless if they have money or not. It's people who actually have jobs and insurance who end up paying for their healthcare in the form of huge premiums that cover the losses medical services will inevitably recievers treating these people pro-bono.

Why exactly do you dildos think healthcare is so expensive here?

>>77796219
>anyone respecting that kike
???

>>77798202
Unfortunately a lot of people love him

>>77798117
man, sounds like baby-boomers really suck in America
I am glad that our older generations werent so selfish

>>77798191
>They ultimately treated regardless if they have money or not.
If everybody gets treated either way, why not just establish universal healthcare?

>>77798153
Wages stagnated because the boomers flooded the labor market and perpetually kept every other group on the verge of crippling unemployment. Ever wonder why Generation X were stereotyped as slackers? Because they literally could not find sustainable employment with boomers choking the labor market.

Things will ultimately get better though. The boomers will die off and (demographically speaking) things will return to somewhat normal in about 10-15 years.

I feel bad for anyone living in a 'developing' country though. All that capital the boomers invested (mind you, the boomers weren't just an American phenomenon but a global one) is going to disappear seemingly overnight, and there goes foreign investment for like 90% of those countries. The days of cheap, easy credit are unfortunately over :(

>dude just pay for insurance
>fuck those who cant afford it, they deserve to die in the streets
>i dont want my money to go to leechers and freeriders even if it means spending twice as much on healthcare
every thread

>>77796219
Who cares about Sanders anymore?

>>77798285
They're the reason america is a >56% shithole on the path to becoming Brazil 2.0.

>>77798191
Talking about medication.. not if you're homeless and go to the ER, obviously they're not gonna turn you away.

But if you're just a working dude and your doctor prescribes you some medication and your insurance of lack of insurance won't get you it.. then yes you will have no medication.

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>>77796219

HOLY SHIT THIS IS HOW AMERICANS ACTUALLY THINK

>>77796962
Its both dumb dumb. Hospitals charge that because they can get it from insurance.

>>77798340
They technically won't die in the streets. But a bunch of spics and niggers suddenly dropping dead wouldn't exactly be the worst thing to happen to burgerland.

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PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE

>>77798191
Emergency Rooms will treat you if you're hit by a car or become so sick that you're literally about to die.

They won't pay for shit if you have a treatable condition until it nearly kills you and usually when they find out you have no insurance they try and remove you from the hospital as soon as you're stable

>>77798387
it's not numbnuts

they charge it because it is what it cost from the makers of american medicaments or what not, they charge outrageous price to the american market because they can

so say you have a drug you can make for $1 because x company owns the patent they can charge whatever they want as long as the government grants them the patent, so there is no negotiation with the price

this is also why canada can keep their cost so low and affordable

idiot

>>77798285
Boomers are unironically the scum of society. They're the same kind of people that spent the last seven years waving around signs like "KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY MEDICARE" and bitch about the welfare state while at the same time cashing in their social security checks with a smile on their faces. They spent their entire fucking lives suckling from the teat of big government and yet vote to deny those same benefits to everyone younger than them. I honestly wished that the Republicans would just repeal Obamacare and cut Medicare, because that would hasten the death of more boomers.

About 68 million of them are still alive, we can only hope that they hurry up and start dying off in droves over the next decade so we can finally get our shit together in this country.

>>77798319
I didn't say everyone gets treated the same way, I said everyone gets treated. Somebody with good insurance is still going to have a wider range of doctors to choose from, get faster better care, etc...

Much of the exorbitant rates they pay to recieve the best healthcare ends up paying for not just their own care, but the people who can't afford as well.

>>77798429
kek

>>77798285
Guy you responded to here. Germany (and the rest of Europe) also had a post-war population boom. I'm no sociologist, but I think the main reason your boomers didn't turn out so toxic was because they were raised in a culture of post-war austerity (which is why they're so ready to push it now when economic crises hit the eurozone).

>>77798603
How comes they turned out so entitled? Don't they care about the wellbeeing of their children and grandchildren?

>>77798731
Yeah, that could be true. Although I must add that austerity is popular with pretty much all population in Germany. I guess its a cultural thing

>>77799007
>How comes they turned out so entitled? Don't they care about the wellbeeing of their children and grandchildren?
Boomers, as a general rule, thrive entirely on cognitive dissonance.

>>77799007
They were raised in the most prosperous era of American history and became spoiled. Then they ruined it with their hippy bullshit and yuppie entitlement.

Anyone who defends private healthcare is a subhuman

>>77796219
manlets when will they learn?

>getting healed is fancy

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>>77796219
>be world power Nr. 1
>don't have universal healthcare

(((1st world country)))

>>77798191
So what you're saying is that you have single payer but in a less efficient and more retarded way ?

>>77799448
It's freedom to have a choice. Have a healthcare or not. Eurocommies will never understand

>>77799538
Sounds like a poor Finncuck is mad that he can't afford his transition.

>>77796219
(((Shapiro)))

Americans spend billions fighting for Israeli interests but won't spend a nickel trying to help its own citizens.

>>77796451
For the poor saving for healthcare basically means saving every penny you have living like a slave because you can't spend for shit on the market for anything you want. If you want to take the free market to its logical conclusion anyone stuck with this shitty healthcare system forced to scrounge like that would be better off moving to a different country and not living as a complete cuck here.

>>77799693
because our citizens are lazy fucks

>see this dirty kike walk on the podium with a fucking keppel
i closed that video so hard. im not wasting my time watching kike argue with a roach

>>77799887
Maybe if you read the rest of the thread, you'd realize this isn't true. American workers are actually some of the most productive in the developed world.

Oh wait, you're not interested in that. You're interested in negging the American worker because you're a businesscuck.

>>77799976
the actual workers aren't the ones fighting for free healthcare, its the welfare and college fags

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>>77796513
>General Lee was a mistake

>>77799091
>>77799192
I think one big difference between Germany and America in that regard is that students dont have to pay for higher education here.
Which I am glad about, otherwise I couldn't afford to go to university

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>>77799976
Yes goyim keep working hard for corporate master, he is so grateful you are so patriotic despite your conditions.

>>77800005
Except it's literally not. Welfare recipients generally already have health care through medicaid or one of its state-run subsidiaries, and college fags have it through their parents or even through a university plan.

Take your republicuck memes elsewhere. This is fash country.

>>77800066
Where did you get the idea that I'm some sort of corporatist shill from that post? I was advocating that the American worker get more since he's, on average, more productive than workers in most other countries who get all kinds of dank benefits.

'Americans are lazy' is a common meme among businesscucks that they use to convince us that we should be grateful for the shit pay we get despite our productivity. Basically negging but for labor.

>>77797969
>Linke supporters
>Pro Israel

What the fuck

>>77799804
>For the poor

You mean for the "middle class".
The actual poor already have an array of social systems to help them and have for a long time.
The people in the worst shape is the entire lower half of the middle class, they make too much for any sort of assistance (or Obamacare) but can't afford $500+ a month worth of insurance for their family of 3.

>>77800224
>Welfare recipients generally already have health care through medicaid or one of its state-run subsidiaries
It's the same shit here. You're unemployed leech everything is given to you. If you're working you have to pay for everything. It sucks for middle class

If you're a poor fag or rich shit's great. Middle class is getting fucked over

>>77796731
>this is your brain on jewish mind control
Non-universal healthcare wouldn't be such a big deal if healthcare itself in the US wasnt a synagogue of this degree

>>77800283
this is antifa
they want to trigger neonazis by beeing as edgy as possible

>>77800498
In America our Neonazis are Zionists lmao

>>77800765
here we have the classical neonazis who hate jews(in decline), and the new-right which is rather pro-israel

>>77796513
Is it true that americans believe Y is a consonant?

>>77800968
The saying is "A,E,I,O,U,and sometimes Y"
Other than certain cases Y is a consonant.

Only liberal cucks hate based shapiro.

>>77796500
this

>>77800367
it seems you cannot taste irony

>>77801400
Just wanted to point that out

I was aware you weren't serious

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>>77796829
>have inscurance
>still have to pay 120k
God bless

>>77796219
We mostly laugh at the kind of people that would take this idiot seriously.

>>77796829
You know at this point you might as well grab the nearest flight to Latin America and wear a fake beard

>>77796682
>but that dude is just straight up suggesting that poor people don't need to be able to afford healthcare

Suggesting otherwise is a controversial stance in this shithole.

>>77797609
One theory is that its primarily a culture war. These idiots are so terrified of PC culture, trannies in their bathrooms, atheism etc. that they lump in with the conservatives even though its counter-intuitive to their economic prosperity.

The two-party system makes ideology a package deal.

here comes the socialist americans
opinion discarted

>>77801913
self-realization is a good thing faggot

>>77801989
yeah not like america became the greatest nation on this planet and helped europe become what it is today because they were socialists

>mfw living in a third world country yet we have universal healthcare
Burgers on suicide watch

>>77796219

going on vacations to Argentina and getting everything for free is cheaper, even if you have to wait and queue and pay for a hotel and someone to translate.
we practically pay for the healthcare of Paraguay and Bolivia.

>it's a burgers coping about their shitty welfare system episode
Feels good not being able to die even when you refuse to work.

People here are ideological because they have nothing else to latch onto. Turns them into shills for something they doesn't even affect them. Like calling yourself a socialist or libertarian actually improves your life.
Friends tell me they would never visit some place because it's too liberal/conservative and they can't understand how the other side thinks. We won't improve anything until people can start looking each other in the eyes
It's deeper than just healthcare

>>77802775
>Friends tell me they would never visit some place because it's too liberal/conservative

This is absolutely retarded. It's not like you're forced to where a sticker advertising your political views

>>77802999
It's how a lot of people think though. Most people don't like to be wrong

I don't know, it's retarded to justify not having proper healthcare in USA and at same time, not having problems with trillions spent on pointless wars. For fucks sake, USA spends more only on air conditioning in Iraq than whole NASA budget, imagine that

And i know, if you are employed you basically don't have problems with healthcare but still, even people with no jobs aka no money should be able to go to the doctor without ending with 100k bills

If you want the whole world to follow your way of life at least fix it. Until then, i am in the "death to US imperialism" team

>>77803170
This

>>77796451
Exactly if America actually made a budget that put the American people first than you wouldnt have to worry about getting shot and not being able to pay 300,000 to get the bullet taken out

>>77803170
than why are you serbs paising trump like a God

>>77796882
looked it up and in virgina it really is statutory rape to have sex with a 17 year old as an 18 year old. insane

>>77798117
You're average age is lower than europeans countries anyways.

>>77803532
Because Clintons bombed us

We all know Trump is a joke but we wanted to see Shillary suffer. But in the end, it's the same shit

And what your question has to do with my post, it doesn't make any sense

>>77796219
Shapiro has a point. There are free clinics out there, don't go to the Mayo Clinic if you can't pay for Mayo prices.
It's like people complaining about not getting free education when they apply to fucking Harvard, and have the same education available with state scholarships in regular college.

>>77803626
>There are free clinics out there

Are there? In USA? I didn't know that

>>77803266
>coming from Germany
how fucking hypocritical and ungrateful could one possibly be?

This is what astounds me about German anti-Americanism. It really just reeks of hypocrisy, entitlement and being completely ungrateful. It was America which, after WW1, pushed for the resulting peace to be as accomodating to Germany as was realistically possible (against the wishes of Britain and France). It was America which, after WW2, again pushed for the resulting peace to be as accomodating to Germany as was realistically possible (against the wishes of Britain and France). It was America which invested insane amounts of money into rebuilding Germany. It was America which went directly against the USSR's wishes and actually made sure that West Berlin was provided for. It was America which pressured the USSR into tearing down the Berlin wall. It was America which pushed for German reunification (against the wishes of Britain and France).

And yet, how do Germans repay Americans for all of that? Hatred, bitterness, passive-aggressive bullshit, masked chauvinism, the list goes on. What's worse is that nowadays the German people practically suck France's dick, and spit on Americans. It's a level of hypocrisy which simply boggles the mind.

>>77803656
yeah, they gotta do the welfare health care somewhere.
and House MD was set in a free clinic, and everyone acted like it was normal.

i don't know who shapiro is, but why hasn't sanders retired yet?

losing to fucking hillary? come on

>>77803720
Dude, Germans are the biggest US dickriders in EU

>>77803745
He's practically making free money and receiving endless praise, i.e. the real-life version of (You)s. Why would he stop?

It's not like what he's currently doing requires much effort. All he needs to do is write a couple of facebook posts every now and then, and people will continue praising him and his brand.

>>77803885
Objectively false according to polls

Out of all EU and NATO countries except for Turkey, Germany is the country with the highest anti-American sentiment.

>>77803912
*have his unpaid interns write...
Bernie is too shaky to use a touch screen or keyboard

>>77803912
??? he's still a senator

>>77796731
Can't believe this is the same nation which has provided so many novelties in physics, chemistry, biology etc... Maybe the wealth inequality gap is as big as the intelligence one.

>>77804045
True, but that only requires him showing up and listening for a bit, then voting, as well as him reading some pre-written speeches about "the people". Not exactly labor-intensive work.

>>77804100
if your healthcare system was a greedy multitrillion dollar private business, you'd be just as afraid of giving them 300 million open checks.

>>77796219
>bitch and moan about muh pro-life
>cut people's healthcare, and let people die
conservaturds, ladies and gentlemen

>>77804455
they are the same people who will limit immigration so business doesnt have to pay taxes for illegal workers

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>>77799887
>our citizens are lazy fucks
The average American works more hours per year than the fucking Japs, and the only reason our population isn't collapsing like theirs and western Europe's is because we're sucking up immigrants like Sasha Grey in a gangbang shoot.
Want the punchline to this whole joke?
Medicare costs 1.2 trillion dollars every year.
Universal Healthcare would cost 1.1 trillion dollars every year.
We're paying fucking more for an inferior system just so the insurance shitstains can make money. This isn't even a political issue, citizens in Nigeria have better access to treatment than citizens in the US. Our military sets up and pays for hospitals in Iraq and Afghanistan but our own citizens struggle with it. Its a bad joke.

>>77798153
Not to mention the shitty job market. STEM majors working in customer service earning $12 an hour. It's sad really.

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>>77797471
If you wanted to help us, you would make it extremely easy for skilled American workers to get visas so that we could all leave this sinking ship. Our systemic issues with education, worker's rights, etc. make it certain that things are going to get much, much worse within the next few decades. Take us, pretty please!

>>77804534
>We're paying fucking more for an inferior system just so the insurance shitstains can make money
Why the fuck do we allow it though? The information is out there available to anyone.

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>>77803170
> For fucks sake, USA spends more only on air conditioning in Iraq than whole NASA budget, imagine that
A lot of us genuinely can't, that's the problem. We're so accustomed to not seeing the value of the nation's wealth put into action to help us at home that most citizens can't imagine the full extent of the USA's wealth and prosperity. Its the wealthiest nation on Earth living the lifestyle of a middle-of-the-road South American country.

>>77804706
Ideology. That's it. Ideology. Literally the only reason I could come up with. And a massive lobby from the insurance companies to produce propaganda and pay off politicians. I'm not even a socialist but healthcare is a lot like the food industry, it NEEDS a regulation in charge.

>>77797756
Does this explain why he got TURK'd?

>>77796219
There really isn't a response to this argument. I don't know how to convince someone that the lives of his fellow countrymen are valuable. Every argument based around politics or social issues operates under the assumption that a core set of common values are shared between the individual. How do you convince someone who is perfectly fine with letting the poor die in agony that healthcare is important? Its a losing battle. I can't teach morality. His parents already fucked that up.

>>77798429
To think he ACTUALLY browses /fit/

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>Still in medical debt from an accident almost three years ago

>>77796451
this tbqh

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>be American
>die because your fellow countrymen are greedy soulless savages
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>77802143

Same happens here for Americans sometimes but it's not as endemic a problem as yours.

Our healthcare won't cover anyone who comes here sick, but if you're in the country and become sick while here you won't be refused at a hospital. So all it takes is coming over the border for a 2 week "vacation" then pretending the symptoms suddenly cropped up during it.

Luckily that tends to mean only short term problems can be scammed because obviously they won't give you cancer treatment, and if it's a non-threatening issue they'll just tell you to return home for treatment, but it's enough of a problem that provincial healthcare budgets now all have to include non-citizen foreigner healthcare fund numbers for border hopping and tourists.

>Twitter
>literally twitter, the sea of meaninglessness
Thread not read, thread hidden

>>77807104
We bill them for treatment if they're not Canadian citizens. Even the provinces bill each other if you're say an Ontario resident but get sick in BC

Why would anyone want shitskins and gooks to get healthcare?

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>>77796513
Hmmmmmmmmm?

>>77796219
I completely agree with him

>>77796219
>life-saving healthcare being the same thing as a commodity like furniture
How fucking retarded can you be

>>77796451
Getting a small loan of 1 million dollars is a start.

>>77797471
let us get ass-raped by ourselves. we need to learn the hard-way.
>>77797609
do you really want to know? go to /pol/ or any local news website here and you'll find some kike or boomer screaming about there being a massive class of free-loaders and that any proposed public benefit would only go to them according to them. Case and point;
>You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”

-Lee Atwater, GOP chairman and chief strategist to George H.W. Bush.

>>77807611
Niggers are not human, they are dregs and I could care less if they die in the streets, I especially don't care if they don't have health care

>>77807611
>blacks get hurt worse than whites.
See, that's why you vote republican.

>>77796219
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>77807377
>>77807697
>>77807722

These fuckheads are mainly the reason the US will NEVER have decent healthcare. They will gladly make everything shit as long as 15 million niggers suffer for it too.

>>77797355
no that's two threads down

>>77803745
>why hasn't sanders retired yet?

He's the longest serving independent in US congress history, and you think he should retire because he lost an election in which he was always the underdog? He's also the most popular US politician now working.

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>be American
>have a headache
>go to the doctor
>get problem resolved in five minutes
>bill is 450,000 dollars
>get my and my aged parent's entire life savings to pay
>don't have anymore money to tip the doctor and the nurse who treated me
>won't let me leave until I give them their tip
>call security on me
>make me remove my clothes as they search for money I don't have
>once they're satisfied I don't have any more the security guards take me out back and beat the shit out of me
>doctor says I'm persona non grata in the hospital
>limp to the parking lot, can barely see because of swollen face
>call the police to report the beating
>officers arrive and I slowly walk toward them to explain the situation
>they start screaming in panic and shoot me
>God bless this country

>>77807755
Yes. Niggers and Mexicans aren't my countrymen

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>>77807831
Among People like this

>>77807971
No, he literally has a higher approval rating (57%) than any politician working.

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>>77808007
Whatever you say burn cück

>>77797471
Most Americans are just too far gone.

>>77808007
DOB DEN WAYS BERDIE GAN SDIL WIN :DDDDD
t. Busfood

>>77807861
>>have a headache
>>go to the doctor
Who does this?
Seriously the way people talk about this crap it's like they're constantly in and out of the hospital.

who here can't afford insurance??
i can. most people can. shitposting as usual

>>77808122
No all my family members literally died on the streets

>>77808091
That's what it's like in places with universal healthcare. They get boo-boos and they go wait in line for 5 months in the hospital.

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>>77808141
made me laugh 2bh

>>77808091
why do you bother replying to a retarded greentexting monkey? he will screencap it and show it to his mom.

>>77808141
that's what these retards actually believe

>>77796829
christ. is the tip included in this?

>>77807479
underrated

>>77808256
No. Neither is tax.

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>>77807479

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>>77807971
Among all Americans you dumbass

>>77807435
>car gets in a wreck
>get a new one
>body suffers a health crisis or is involved in an accident in which injury occurs
>die or become incapacitated and unable to work because of disability
These are the exact same thing and if you say otherwise you're a communist.

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>>77808429
Then why isn't he president?
>Inb4 he got robbed

>>77807435
neoliberals treat human life like a commodity.

Americans are the definition of "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" desu
Slave mentality

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>>77796882
you found this fake on pol, you actual columbian nigger? i remember it and someone google that and found a big fat nigger and this youngster was shopped in,
here is his pic, he looks just like you

>>77808593
Europeans are the definition of "retarded children who need to be protected from themselves"

>>77808510
Learn math. He is more popular than Hillary among all Americans but less popular than her among Democratic voters.

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>>77803560
We're not far behind tho

>>77798285
Oh please, they're the same in Europe. All of that generation went around smoking weed and demanding legalized abortion/end Vietnam naow/feminist bra burning etc.

>>77808693
Then why did he not win the primary? I think it's because he is a senile socalist and you are a Communist faggot

>>77796513
>seven signatories of the Declaration of Independence weren't American

>>77796451
Yeah, you totally have $100,000 saved up for an emergency operation

>n-n-no I have health insurance
Exactly, shut the fuck up. Budgeting won't mean anything if you find yourself out of a job when a car decides to hit you, or cancer decides to crop up.

Honestly, the callousness of this country towards their fellow citizens is pretty revolting. We're all in this together, a high tide lifts all boats.

People are more productive if they don't have to choose between their health and destitution. It works fantastically in literally every other country. Stop shilling for the Jew and help out your countrymen.

>>77808754
>Then why did he not win the primary?

Are you retarded? Would you like to try reading my post again?

>>77804534
>We're paying fucking more for an inferior system just so the insurance shitstains can make money

>Democrats go around saying the insurance industry is the incarnation of Lucifer
>go and pass a health care "bill" that requires you to buy insurance from them or else
...

>>77808785
Based Democratic voter's cockblocking insane Communist

>>77798329
>Wages stagnated because the boomers flooded the labor market and perpetually kept every other group on the verge of crippling unemployment. Ever wonder why Generation X were stereotyped as slackers? Because they literally could not find sustainable employment with boomers choking the labor market.
Ok yes, this is true. During the 80s-90s, boomers had every good job there was due to sheer weight of numbers and a young college grad couldn't find work.
>Things will ultimately get better though. The boomers will die off and (demographically speaking) things will return to somewhat normal in about 10-15 years.
They will. This is just a temporary problem we have to overcome. But actually, since about 2014 Millenials have outnumbered boomers.

>>77808754
you clearly don't know what a communist is you fucking retard

can't wait to finalize my move to Prague.

I lucked out, met a girl there years ago, we hit it off, dated for 2 years and now we are engaged, and I will become EU citizen in no time :^) all works out. better healthcare, better vacation here I come.

USA is a shithole. so happy I will leave it.

>>77808806
>implying single payer was possible against the Jews

Obama got our foot in the door by doing away with healthcare bullshit
>no preexisting conditions
>no lifetime caps
>more people on medicare

Once the bill gets reformed in a bipartisan way we can finally move towards first-world healthcare

>>77808903
>Czech Republic
>anywhere in Eastern Europe
The only pension you're going to get there is a coupon for a crust of stale bread.

>>77808903
Serious question: what about your family and friends?

When people move to a new country for good, I always wonder about that. Like, do you dislike America so much that you'd be willing to go so long without seeing your family?

>>77808897
Socialism is communism

>>77808780
It doesn't work "fantastically" anywhere. That's bullshit. If most people really wanted it here, they would make it happen. Stop blaming the jews.

>>77808958
spoken like a true American :) you know, part of the 90% that never traveled outside of US.

>>77808989
>giving the /pol/tard serious replies

>>77808968
obviously that's the bit that is the worst. I can make new friends but leaving my family sucks.

>>77804750
>Its the wealthiest nation on Earth living the lifestyle of a middle-of-the-road South American country.

Oh please, like you'd live better in Europe where the cost of living is triple what it is here and you have a nanny state with fewer personal freedoms.

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>>77808958
I wonder if he isn't the same guy who claimed he was going to move to Poland the other day.

>>77808958
that's bait, mate

>>77809098
Maybe not the same guy, but these bait posts appear from time to time. "Tired of this shithole moving to X <an actual shithole>". Collect (you)s.

>>77808958
enjoy listening to the lovely feminist/blm agenda for the rest of your life, only to be ended by a nigger nigging it up and once at the hospital you die because you can't afford it. :^)

All I'm saying is very few people want their tax money used to give health care to illegal immigrants and gender reassignment surgeries. Now I know in Germany that's not an issue and if you object to it, you're just a Nazi, but...

>>77803951
>Germany is the country with the highest anti-American sentiment
Nah they just butthurt because Trump is anti-globalist and they think putting one's own nation first is Nazishit.

>>77809327
kek, trump doesn't give a shit about his "nation". it is a shit show and you know that. are you a poltard?

>>77808162
Unless your name is Khalid or Ngu, in which case you go to the front of the line for health care because we don't want to be wacist.

>>77809402
The krauts don't know that. When drumpf says "america first", they believe he means it.

>>77809472
Neato, it's that Iranian diaspora who is upset that Trump still hasn't nuked all Arab cunts.

americans truly are barbarians

Universal health care seems like a great idea until you ask who's going to pay for it. And if you have it, how will you prevent abuse of the system? Anything that's free can and will be taken advantage of.

>>77809472
maybe they thought that when he was elected. but now? what kind of an idiot would take trump seriously now?? it is a fucking runaway train. not even funny anymore.

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>>77809529
Hmmmmmmmmm?

>>77809551
Those are good points. I've raised them before and asked Yuropoors how they would go about paying for said UHC and ensuring it doesn't go to niggers/trans/illegal immigrants. Most of them didn't have any answer except to spam >be American get shot memes and call it a day.

>>77809510
Explain

>>77796731
>don't get sick then
Insurance is for emergency situations like an accident. Generally if you take proper care of yourself, you won't need to worry about your health until you're old, in which case Medicare legally cannot refuse medical treatment for any reason.

>>77796606
>unironically being poorfag

What has the world come to

>>77809614
>expecting serious discussion from underage people whose first language isn't even English
Come on dude, most people on /int/ know nothing of other cunts except memes and they have very little interest in actual discussion.

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>>77809551
>Universal health care seems like a great idea until you ask who's going to pay for it

>>77809709
Yessum, you can see how well the NHS works when you wait in line for weeks behind a giant queue of immigrants to see a doctor and remember how Madonna wouldn't use an NHS hospital to give birth?

>>77809599
>not even funny anymore.
I never liked him, so it's just now getting funny for me.

>>77809671
Right. We have Medicare and Medicaid and emergency rooms can't refuse anyone. Don't see why anyone thinks they're denied health coverage in this country.

I'm glad I'm not a nigger or a spic, and can afford healthcare.

>>77809816
Me too

it took me a month to get a doctors appointment for some amphetamines

wtf

>>77809709
>The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money.
-Ronald Reagan
oh wait

>>77798155
Social Security is a stipend just designed to ensure you don't starve, it was never meant as your whole retirement. If you didn't save/plan for retirement properly, you will die poor regardless.

>be canadian
>have kidney stones
>need an ultrasound and morphine and Percocets
>they are all free and i only wait like a week for my ultrsound appointment
feels GOOD

>>77796829
that's a very generous discount the hopital is giving

>>77809884
>they are all free and i only wait like a week for my ultrsound appointment
Yeah maybe in the 70s. Nowadays enjoy waiting weeks behind all of the Wangs and Mehmeds at the doctor's office.

>>77809948
this literally happened to me

>>77796829
Is this real?

Give me 1 reason of why we shouldnt have universal quality healthcare funded on tax money (free)

I Dont get this thinking : if healthcare/educaction are public they must suck, I NEED to pay for a better thing, if poop people cant afford it then they are lazy scum

Literally third world

>>77809986
americans are very self centered and have some weird idea about not wanting to support lazy people not realizing that it helps them as well

>>77810027
Shouldn't you be prepping your wife for black bulls, Justin?

>>77809758
NHS is a fucking joke. You will fucking die waiting for your surgery because there will be thousands of unemployed alcoholics and bums ahead of you in line, and everyone is equal.

>>77810051
quality shitpost my friend

>>77809986
>I Dont get this thinking : if healthcare/educaction are public they must suck

I think the Veteran's Administration scandals showed how efficient government-run health care is.

>>77810051
Please dont reply with memes

>>77810027

I heard canadian healthcare is ok but it has the same problem as ours, you have wait lot of hours if you need a doctor and months for a surgery

>>77807939
you're the people that decided to bring them idiot

>>77799192
Agreed.

>>77810129
In Britain it was even worse because you didn't a war going on in the 60s or a civil rights movement. Harold MacMillan said that the postwar generation in the UK had never had it so good. They literally rebelled out of boredom.

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>>77810115
well yeah but i really dont see how long wait times is worse than being in crippling debt the rest of your life or just plain not getting the surgery. like are those two things even comparable
pic is BC medical premiums

>>77809948

>Let me tell you about your country

Every time. Did your insurance company tell you about those wait times?

>>77809816
>I'm so proud the hospital bill is excessively pricey to pay for my well being instead of just getting it for free, as it should be

lmao

>>77810115
>you have wait lot of hours if you need a doctor and months for a surgery
If you're white. If you're not white of course you go to the front of the line because we don't want to be wacist.

>>77810244
this is just bullshit where are you getting this lmao

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>>77810240
>I'm so proud the hospital bill is excessively pricey to pay for my well being instead of just getting it for free
>free

>>77810266
my medical premiums are zero because i fall in the first income bracket :^)

>>77810234
This entire thread is "let me tell you about your country".

>>77809919

That's not a discount, that's how much his insurance is paying.

Yes, he pays his health insurance cartel and still have to pay $121,000 out of pocket.

>>77810297
>my medical premiums are zero because i fall in the first income bracket
Shitskin immigrant?

>>77810266
>please sir, there must be some way you could charge me more for my well being. $20,000 just seems too cheap!

Now I will agree there are some things we could improve on in regards to health care in particular the blatantly ridiculous idea of how it's legal to advertise prescription drugs here. New Zealand is the only other country on the planet that allows that.

>>77810116
Don't remember voting to be flooded by Asian and Latin American immigrants

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>>77810348
You do know if you have socialized health care, that $20,000 still has to come from someone's pocket.

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>>77796882
>>77797201
>>77798015
>>77801602
>>77801648
>>77808256
>>77809965

Hey, American health care is FINE.

It's only $40 to hold your baby after it's born.

>>77809864
>The problem with government is eventually you run out of other people's money.
you see man? this is why we're all worried about you guys, you're so fucking dense you can't see for yourselves

>free
>you actually have to pay for it every year of your life
hmm

>>77797201
Would that nurses IRL looked like Tracey Lords and weren't hambeasts/niggers.

>>77810442

As opposed to the American way, where you pay for insurance every year of your life and still get billed $121k when you get hurt.

>>77796829

>>77797471
Please keep the West intact until Cheeto-in-Chief is out of office and we'll call it even.

>>77810442
See, in Europe this wasn't an issue 30 years ago. Paying for your countrymen's health care was a duty as a citizen and nobody had a problem doing it. Nowadays of course you're not paying for Sven or Gunter's health care, you're paying for Nbu and Khalid's health care, when they've never paid a cent into the system.

>>77810299
this. also somehow the majority of the "experts" on the US are edgy underage 3rd worlders.

>>77810540
Anyone remember that billboard in Africa urging people to move to Finland because "You can rape all you want. You will not be punished."

lyl

>>77810424

L M A O

Can't believe the so-called most powerful and richest country of all time can't figure out a way to use their enormous wealth to provide for their citizens. It's seriously insane, unitedstatesians should be swimming in healthcare and living in paradise.

What the fuck happened?

>inb4 /pol/ says minorities fucked it up

>>77810586

Yeah I'm sure the /pol/ user who made it has it.

>>77810595
Somehow Congolombia isn't the country that should be accusing others of low quality of life.

>>77810328
poor university student

>>77810585
Did I also mention the logical fallacy of "Access to health care=quality health care". I mean, Brazil has UHC but I doubt anyone would want to use a Brazilian hospital.

>>77810328
immigrants don't get free healthcare only citizens do

>>77810649
And? Shitty healthcare is something expected of us because this is not a wealthy nation, corruption etc etc. And yet, our system somehow manages to be more efficient than yours according to the WHO.

The US could have God-tier coverage for all, but the clowns you elect to public office seem bent on denying that.

>>77810595
we do live in paradise. stop being jealous, you literal congolombian nigger.

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>>77810757
>And yet, our system somehow manages to be more efficient than yours according to the WHO
>WHO

>>77810794
doctor who?

And if you didn't know, the WHO is a far left organization. Anything they say should not be taken seriously by anyone.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/whom-are-they-kidding

>>77810841
nice logical fallacy

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>>77796219

>>77810365
That was Bill Clinton's fine doing.

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>be european
>die of cancer

>>77810793
dog bless ameriga :DDD

>>77810794
>inb4 it's a conspiracy to make the US look bad

>>77810794

>Be shit at something
>Greentext the source because muh conspiracies

>>77810841

Back to your t_d hugbox, sweetie.

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Pay for my healthcare cuckies

>>77810841

>The WHO is wrong about calling America bad at something. Article written and published by: American

Wow, who would have thought. Next up, Mexican explaining why Cartels are not a problem.

>>77809965
of course not. do a reverse image search. people make up this shit for facebook/reddit/4chan (you)s. it should be obvious with the reddit filename

>>77810927

>Marginal increase for 10x the cost
>Still have a lower life expectancy than most on the list

So this is the power of American healthcare

>>77811043
>Still have a lower life expectancy than most on the list
Gas all niggers and that stat will climb in a hurry. :^)

>>77797756
Lyin ted is 5'10"

>>77810585
And this guy was right.

>>77810979
>>77810949
>>77810936

>>77811099
Also nobody has actually tried to refute the claims in the link >>77810841. They just spammed memes and ragequit.

>>77810260
/pol/ of course. They just feed sad miserable fucks like him with delusions for his victim complex

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>>77811000
I'm ok with this.

>>77802056
I don't think I want to use a Moroccan hospital. They probably make thread from banana peels to stitch you up after an operation with no anesthetic (can't afford that).

>>77810841
>Cato Institute
>Libertarian think tank

Definitely not a biased source. Can't wait to see their article about how roads are evil :DDD

>>77810585
>>>/bant/

I get free healthcare cause I'm poor

trumpfags btfo

>>77807435
just respawn and make better decisions in lfie :^)

>>77796219
is being a doctor lucrative in free healthcare nations?

>>77811010
at least read the article before spewing garbage. Their ranks are garbage because they fall for the same pitfall that IHDI does. This is a UN published document on how IHDI is calculated, near the bottom of page 2 and most of page 3 is where the relevant information is here. Its meant to provide a human development index which is adjusted for inequality which is all well and good but the problem here is that it only takes into account the differences between the highest and the lowest indexes while flat out ignoring the other 80% of people. Not to mention that it runs off of GNI which is is a plain awful metric to use when comparing the well being of countries

http://hdr.undp.org/sites/default/files/hdr_2013_en_technotes.pdf

For example if you have 10 citizens with their quality of life ranked from 1-10 and you have 2 countries with the following populations

Country A: 1, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7, 7, 9, 10
Country B: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8

Country B will rank higher on the IHDI scale than country A despite being far worse off. The WHO rankings are the same thing, they take inequality far too strongly into effect when making their rankings which makes them misleading.

>>77811321

>Practically, that means Canadian doctors have an average annual income (before taxes) of a little more than $225,000

I would genuinely, honestly not mind more publicly welfare if I knew it wasn't just going to be shoveling tax dollars into the money hole that is the black community.

Look at our comparatively small welfare system we have now, it's just led to generational welfare recipients.

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>>77811321

>Practically, that means Canadian doctors have an average annual income (before taxes) of a little more than $225,000.

>But, again, there is a range, from psychiatrists, the specialists who bill the least ($232,000 gross; $186,000 net), to ophthalmologists, who bill the most ($676,000 gross; $418,000 net).

>>77804021
>Bernie is too shaky to use a touch screen or keyboard
I didn't know he has a problem with hand tremors but I guess it's not unusual at his age.

>>77811565
Essential tremor is common in older people, it doesn't signify any particular underlying health condition.