Daily Japanese Thread - DJT # 1886

今日は出来そう

>>77727718
頑張れ、アイルランドちゃん!

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>>77727718
大丈夫、一緒にちゃんと見直そう!

>>77727718
何を出来る?

>雨の中をわざわざ出かけるなんて物好きだな

Is なんて just like って in a quoting kind of way?
I'm still not sure how I can use it in my own sentences.

>>77733039
It can also have a nuance of "isn't that ridiculous" or something like that. "Purposefully going out in the rain, that's crazy!"

If you use it like this 俺なんてできるわけないだろう, it has a similar nuance but more obviously negative. "Me, of all people? Of course I can't do it."

>>77733312
oh so its always that kind of nuance?
and this is completely different than なんと right?

>>77733574
I don't know about always, but when used in that way, it usually does.
>and this is completely different than なんと right?
That's right.

23分後にやっと帰られる (*´∀｀*)
今晩はどうそるかな
漫画を読むの方がいいでも…

Is JET only for native English speakers or can anyone with like, Cambridge Proficiency or similar high end certificates participate too?

>>77733039
FYI
https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/entries/644.htm
https://core6000.neocities.org/hjgp/entries/645.htm

where the hell on this internets i can get talks with japanese people? like not only boards

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Can anyone help me comprehend this? I must admit I'm pretty lost, even after looking up all the vocab. Dammit.

>>77735107
Are (you) thinking that building team spirit starts with eating from the same pot?

>>77735341
That makes so much sense. Thanks for enlightening me.

>>77726396
I've only been at this for a week. But does that say "today is the first day of the month so I will work extra hard" or something akin to that.

>>77736859

I... I don't think you are going to make it, anon...

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>>77736913
Thanks. I knew my hard work would pay off.

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>>77736859
>But does that say "today is the first day of the month
No one knows, anon. No one knows.

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>>77736913
>>77737020
What's a good way for not immediately forgetting everything you studied over.

>>77737230
Stop learning Japanese.

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>>77737246
I've been trying to put together words to see if I can do a sentence more good. Would 私は猫を鞄入れる translate into "I put cats into bags."?

>>77736859
That's entirely wrong but you're way better than I was after my first two months because I didn't know how to properly study Japanese.

close, 私は猫を鞄に入れる would be correct

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>>77737478
>I put cats into bags.
Monster. Stop learning Japanese!

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>>77737578
Thanks. The guide has been helpful despite my best efforts to fail.
>>77737626
We are the knights who say...に

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>>77737763
And now I'm off to watch Monty Python.

An entire night of anime and studying ruined. Fuck you anon.

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>>77738056
Just watch the 日本語 version.

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にゃんたることだ。

れぇえええええ

レロレロレロ

これは全て一本の線で繋がっている.
All of these are connected by a line
何としてもそのてふ子人形を一目確かめなければ
By all means, I have to make sure (and?) have to see the Tefuko-doll
Should i use and?

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>>77725692
after much deliberation (a couple of shitty review days) I decided to start individual kanji reading recall study alongside vocab revision


the deck I'm using has the kanji on the front and readings as well as a key word on the back. the deck has some errors so I'm checking each new card with a kanji dictionary online, only bothering with jouyou readings


can anyone else share their own experience doing individual kanji study alongside vocab?

>>77742172
Do report your gains. I've been studying names and, although it's not the same, you don't have much to work with since it's not vocabulary, only sounds. It's kinda helping me to pay more attention to kanji rather than just going for the meaning.
I'll start KKLC in January.

What does mean だったら in this sentence?
どうせもう面は割れてる正面から行ったつて門前払いサだったら裏から忍び込む
Conjuction or condition?

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>>77737020
Okay, I think I'll have you explain me the picture.
https://desuarchive.org/a/search/image/GX3mkK9jDcn-iOosm8-MJQ/

Even in its apparent origins there was no context, is it related to calling someone stupid a doorknob?

>>77744701
condition. close to それなら

>>77744616
>It's kinda helping me to pay more attention to kanji rather than just going for the meaning.
that's kinda the main reason why I've started. during reviews I kept making stupid errors where I knew what the word means but mixed up kanji readings, almost in a dyslexic manner at times
the hope is that by studying individual kanji on the side it will force my brain to be more 'kanji aware' and not make dumb mistakes during vocab reviews and while reading


>I'll start KKLC in January.

that's a long time time away but if I'm still doing individual kanji study alongside vocab then there will be a lot to report on

>>77744701
i think you forgot 。 or 、.
どうせもう面は割れてる、正面から行ったって門前払いさ。だったら裏から忍び込む。
だったら=then

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>>77744822
No. There was a point, back on /a/, where some anon was calling another anon a newb and said "you're reaching around in the dark, you're not even scratching the doorknob" or something along those lines.

A few of us thought it was funny but the "oh muh gerd ferced mimis" people came out and killed it.

>>77745493
She can ram her head into my knob any time.

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>>77745540
Did you just assume their gender?

>>77745493
B-but that doorknob looks very scratched, clearly someone's making their way through!

https://youtu.be/x_gj1c7AW88

>俺達に声をかけてきたのは、黒マントに黒いローブ、黒いブーツに杖を持ち、トンガリ帽子まで被った、典型的な魔法使いの少女だった。

I don't understand how the に work in this sentence...?
>黒マントに黒いローブ、黒いブーツに杖を持ち

Am I missing something?

>>77746873
Just linking things. It's translated as "and" or "with".

>>77746945
Ah I see. Thank you!

>>77746729
???

>>77746945
it is used often for things which are assumed to have a regularly occurring together relationship, like socks and shoes, salt and pepper, etc.
as well as listing items with orders and groups of people, which also carries the same sort of occurring together relationship

>>77747746
>>77747035
quoted the wrong person

>>77747777
Australia does it again.

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>retention rate has been slowly slipping
>hit 40%
>consider quitting
>decide I gave up last time, I won't do it this time
>turn off new cards
>go full review mode
>retention rate has been slowly going up
i'm glad I didn't give up, but doing this whole no-new-card thing won't end up biting me in the ass aside from being like a week behind where I was before, right?

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>>77750023

>>77748786
what?

>>77750023
>decide I gave up last time
Was there any doubt before?

>>77751593
not quite sure I understand, sorry

I have no idea, what does it mean?
先に奥の様子を見てくる

>>77742172
Just do KKLC. The mnemonics really help with memory, especially for similar looking kanji which used to be the bane of my existence.

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はいい。まい にっがす これはぼくの初めてにぽすと

>>77725692
Omaera anime de nihongo wo study suru ka ?

男冥利

I'm having trouble with the following sentence, maybe someone could tell me if my understand is correct:

明日行くのはお母さんのお母さんの方のおばあちゃんなわけよ

Tomorrow I'm going to my grandma, who is my mom's mom.

Does 方 in this case indicate the "side of the family"?

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>it's another day studying japanese universities instead of doing my math homework

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>77700393
Sorry for the late reply

At it's core, applying to a japanese university is not much difference from applying to an american university. However, if you don't already have a bachelor's degree, you may be forced to take the EJU (Entrance exam, the same exam the actual japanese take). However, if your college is english specific, they may not do this if your existing GPA is good enough.

The problem with attending japanese university is entirely a financial one. If you're reading this post, and wondering how to do this, chances are you won't qualify for the MEXT. It has an acceptance rate of about 10%

In order to pass the MEXT, you need to figure out a research project for yourself, then pass a 3-hour english exam followed by a 3-hour japanese exam whose difficulty is about N2-level. And you need high grades in those.

Then, you have an interview where you sit with a table of lawyers trying to find a way to deny you the scholarship. This is where you gloat about your career, maybe your affiliation with japanese organizations, and explain any connections to Japan that you might have.

The test is administered in Washington D.C so on top of Japanese lawyers you might have actual american lawyers interpreting your methods.

MEXT is an extremely grueling and extremely stressful process, so you probably want at least 2 years of research/practice for it, but being accepted in MEXT gets you into Japan for your master's degree.

To put this into perspective, MEXT accepts about 4,000 people from around the world each year. That means you're not competing with just americans, you're competing with the entire world. You gotta know your shit and you gotta be taking those JLPT's while also participating/helping with any japanese organizations you might have located near you.

But with enough determination, this is a gateway into Japan.

How would I express a number of consecutive days? As in something like "I have to go to work 10 days in a row"

>>77761051
fixed link
>>77700393

Would 美しい be a little strong when complimenting my acquaintances' music? Or should I stick with キレイ?

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>>77761401
>using either of those to describe music you don't love

what
just use suteki you fucking dweeb
unless the music belongs to a girl and you have a boner for said girl

>>77761401

Use 嫌い then act like you just realized you used the wrong word and make a joke out of it. You'll get laid for sure.

>>77761537
But I do love these songs. I just wasn't sure if those could come off as a little too strong or something.

>>77761629
Are you talking to a guy or a girl?

if it's a guy and you genuinely love the music, use sugoi or totemo kakkoi!

you don't call another man's music lovely or beautiful, like wtf.

>>77761709
Girl to girl pls no bully

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Someone please explain why a brothel is covering up as an archery range.

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>>77761864
>Girl to girl pls no bully

if it's girl to girl, why are you wondering if "lovely" or "beautiful" Is a good way to compliment their music?

of course it is. no matter what country they are form, girls still be girls.

>>77762154
That's true. Thank you.

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Heisig's RTK

Pros:
>Easy to begin and learn the first thousand kanji relatively quickly
>Learning meanings first will make it easier to learn vocabulary and readings later
>Logical ordering of kanji at least in terms of familiarity with radicals and retention

Cons:
>Not immediately useful if you wait to learn vocabulary
>Often mnemonics are a nuisance rather than helpful and lead to learning wrong meanings
>Meanings themselves aren't always the most common or the best approximation, since Heisig claims to base it on the character's 'primitive meaning'
>Often assigns a completely random meaning to a character to help with learning other kanji (does this a lot with radicals/primitives)
>Learning English translations for Japanese meanings means the nuance of a character is often lost

>>77760191
>Does 方 in this case indicate the "side of the family"?

Yes. But there's nothing specific about its usage to family. There are two grandmothers, the "one" she is going to is her mother's mother. You could just the same use 方 when picking a brand of ice cream or for any other kind of comparison.

Dear Japanese friends, what is Kanno Yoko-san's official site/page? I have an important question for her (hoping she responds)

>>77765790
http://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/seatbelts/

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>>77762070
They know how to work a shaft.

I've stopped learning Japanese since the use for it is very limited for me and the opportunity cost is too high

But it still haunts me every now and then

>>77767127
Arigatou gozaimasu senpai. Very sorry I can't speak a better Japanese but I will work on it

>>77762070
maybe to have an excuse why many men go there and a hiding place for the actual brothel at the "range"

>>77767507
How many hours did you put in it?

>>77765790
>>77768054
You should ask her how she feels about plagiarism

>>77752550
I'll go check (what's going on inside) first.

先に first (before others)
奥 further inside
様子 status, what's happening, what's going on
見てくる look (and come back)

>>77761401
きれい is much more natural. 美しい sounds like you're a professional music critic listening to classical or something.

>>77771601
Big thank, bro

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>>77737478
>>77736859
I'm back with more an sentence to do am better.
のみ雨水を飲むに体上げる
(I) only drink rain water to improve my health.

Also would it be fine if I just stop doing new cards on anki and just go full review until I really get my vocab down?

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I started talking to some girl in Japan and she says this.
I still don't understand what the deal is with 四季.
Maybe I'm just an uncultured American but I thought a lot of places had four seasons...

>>77773247
Maybe she means they're all noticeable unlike in places such as Florida

>>77773247
>I thought a lot of places had four seasons...
They do, but don't tell that to Japanese people. They'll have an embolism.
Seriously, it's a bragging point for many Japanese people that Japan has four distinct seasons. Just say America does, too, and ask her which she likes or something.

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Why isn't it "彼から” instead of "彼に”?

>>77735022
I've heard good things about iTalki if you're interested in speaking to people via video chat. It is paid, though. Most community tutors charge around $10/hr. for lessons but have trial lessons for cheap.

>>77773419
https://djtarchive.neocities.org/bunpou/full_day.html#に(3)
> に3 is typically used in passive, causative, もらう/てもらう constructions and with verbs such as 借りる 'borrow', 聞く 'hear', もらう 'receive', 習う 'learn', 教わる 'learn' which require a noun phrase representing the source of the direct object.
Dunno why exactly, just is though

>>77773419
>>77773459
Scratch that, I just forgot the reason
>The difference between に3 (of source) and から1 is that the former indicates the speaker's psychological closeness to a human source, whereas the latter doesn't. This difference explains why is ungrammatical if the source is an impersonal institution to which the speaker can hardly feel close, as shown in [1].

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>>77773247
>Maybe I'm just an uncultured American but I thought a lot of places had four seasons...

Japan has a philosophical understanding behind seasons, complete with seasonal mindsets.

America used to do this back in the day, leading to awesome poetry by the likes of Robert Frost, but this has declined over the years. America stopped giving a shit about the seasons other than the changes in weather, but this hasn't stopped in Japan

to this day, there is still extreme symbolism and attachment with the japanese mindset to the concept of seasons.

四季. is sort of a form of patriotism, like "HEY! WE GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SEASONS!"

nobody outside of japan actually cares though

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>>77773497
hm, I see. thanks

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>>77773533
>>77773360
>>77773329
Thanks, now I'm cultured

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>>77773533
What are you talking about? Americans love the changing of the seasons

>>77773857
>Americans love the changing of the seasons
a small subset of americans, not the majority, as you should know.

in japan, it's a large percentage of people who care

I'm making my way through Tae Kim's Grammar Guide. Is it worth my time to learn all the new vocab he uses? I'm not too thrilled about all the kanji he's throwing in. There's no rhyme or reason to it, really. Should I just start up the Core 6k deck instead of the awful vocab deck I'm making alongside Tae Kim's course?

>>77773857
Only white girls like that shit.

But I don't disagree. We have our symbolism as well, we just don't go HAM on it like Japan does. For example: barbecues, kids playing in the spray of an open fire hydrant, long days that never seem to end. Evoke anything? Could it be the middle of winter, perhaps?

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>>77773962
>could it be the middle of winter, perhaps?
how'd you know, anon?

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>>77774082
Because I watch Game of Thrones you fucking nerd.

>>77774134
not him but when i told my philosophy class japan had gender-seperate valentine's days people were so confused

>>77774184
>gender-separate valentine's days
explain

>>77774252
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Day

>>77774252
in japan, there's 2 valentine's days

1. Valentine's Day (for Men): Girl gives men chocolate
2. White Day (for Women): Boy gives woman chocolate

so on valentine's day, a man can feel loved, and on white day, a woman can feel loved

kind of neat when you think about it

>>77774281
>started by the National Confectionery Industry Association

even Japan is not free from (((them)))

>>77774373
wait until you find out the origin of the term 'Kamikaze' when used to define 'suicide soldier'

>>77774393
actually i'll elaborate

Small history listen

As you should know, Kamikaze means 'Divine winds', i mean, the name is literally kami kaze, or god wind, so it's pretty easy to see. The term was coined when the Mongols were destroyed by the winds twice, Japan thought the ancestors were protecting them from assault, and so Kamikaze was born

In the world wars, when japanese suicide pilots became popular, the Press, or ((them)) needed a way to coin these suicide pilots as BRAVE HEROES

thus, they directly compared the suicide pilots to the divine winds, saying "HEY! THESE GUYS ARE BRAVE HEROES PROTECTING US! THEY -ARE- THE KAMIKAZE!"

and so kamikaze started to mean 'suicide pilot' more than 'divine wind', because of ((them))

>>77773247
Tell her she's stupid and there are actually 5, she's forgetting 梅雨.

>>77773247
so when are you going to tell us how to meet qt3.14 japanese girls

>>77774587
this

>>77774587
>so when are you going to tell us how to meet qt3.14 japanese girls

(not him)
it's not really hard
they're wife material

>>77774648
Since whites are being pushed out of America, and the Japs can't breed, can we solve each others' problems by becoming a hybrid asian/white race that is accepted by both countries?

>>77774648
enlighten me

>>77774809
I met her at this site
http://www.atgames.jp/atgames/top.do

but the site has been neutered since then and the chatrooms i met her at have been removed.

you're just gonna have to find some of the places japanese girls congregate online, or throw a dart with lang8. really depends on what you're going for. lang8 for normies, online browser games for the more-internet-specific ones.

For the record, i'm pretty good at talking to girls regardless of culture, however, japanese girls are a bit different from western girls, you have to change your approaches slightly.

>>77774684
だ め よ

>>7777777 が迫っている
お楽しみに!

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チルノちゃん

>>77777777

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>>77777923
America wins again.

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>>77773247
Where can I go to talk to Japanese qt 3.14
>日本の女性を買う金がない

>>77778795
Well I have had a few girlfriends from playing online mmo games with them.
But it's hard to look for them, let alone get close to them in certain games. For that I suggest just playing casual until you find someone (on a japanese only game of course) but I think I just got lucky since I was just looking for friends in the first place. Twitter helped a bit with that too.

The girl from the picture I met on the iPhone app "HelloTalk." She randomly asked to use Line one day which is where the pic is from.

Not sure how good of advice this is but that wraps up my experience.

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After some more studying I now realize how shit this >>77772660 is. I think this is a little better.

>(I) only drink rain water to improve my health
私の体を改善するにのみ雨水を飲む

>>77778795
what is this series of reaction images of this chinese girl i keep seeing from

>>77779472
健康のためには雨水しか飲まない
雨水は健康のために飲んでいる
One of these depending on if you only drink rain water or if you drink rain water among other things

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>>77779561
jokanhiyou's the name. Happy scavenging.

>>77779847
thanks

>>77752782
isn't KKLC for kanji writing from memory?

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>>77779631
I'm trying to say I ONLY drink rain water to improve my health/body

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>>77779631
Wouldn't the -ない make it "to not drink"?

also here's better version of >>77779472
私の健康を改善するに雨水をしか飲む

>>77780144
Then it's the first one

>>77780590
I don't know the grammar rules so someone else will have to explain why it's not negative, has to do with the しか

>>77780590
しか ~ ない translates to "nothing but"
This grammar pattern requires the verb to be in negative form. You can still use ~ません to be polite and other negative endings.

When watching anime should i be repeating everything they say?

>>77781229
Only when watching hentai

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>>77781264
oh that makes sense!
This gives me a good reason to watch this I found earlier!

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>>77781329
LOL'd.

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>>77781329

>>77774911
What an absolutely homo game, are your correspondents all lolis by chance?
But yeah, now that I think about it, games like Neopets and dress-your-retarded-char are the best ones to find women, sounds like a good strategy.

take the 3DPD chat garbage to >>>/soc/

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>>77784914
Take your red frogs to >>>/jp/

Talking with humans is a valuable source of learning later in the game, and my history with trying to have language partners has proved time and time again having a person of the opposite sex works better. Might be due some underlying sexual tension, I don't know, but you can ignore it and reap the fruits of learning if you're genuinely interested, instead of just looking to fulfill your teenager fantasies. There is >>>int/cp/ for those shallow enough.

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Are you giving your all today, DJT?

>>77786713
not really

>>77780144
Rain water has no minerals in it. Water desperately wants to have minerals in it. You're leeching minerals out of your food and body to satisfy its besoin.

I'm shutting off my internet for 6 months to focus on jabadeeze. 600 words into core and barely cracked a grammar guide. How should I set my goals? Looking to do 3-4 hours a day once I start reading.

Got, like, a 100gb backlog of manga, a bunch of books from the cor, a kanji looker-upper, a bunch of dictionaries and grammar guides and all that shit. anki decks, rikaisama, etc. 600+ episodes of misc. animes and stuff too, as well as every djt thread that's linked on a few archive sites

>>77785039
this isn't /soc/
fuck off

>>77789600
>How should I set my goals?
set a minimum amount of new words a day to add to the review pile and spend as much time you can reading
you already have the grammar guides, anki deck, rikaisama, etc. so it should be obvious what you need to add to the study curriculum once you start really struggling in one area more than others

>>77789922
>浪人して書くことができます
reminder that the guy responsible for that shit is the same guy who now owns and runs 4chan
buy a pass, goy

>>77780076
RTK is more about writing than KKLC, the latter uses mnemonics and vocab to make it easier to hold onto the kanji.

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>>77779472
健康をよくするために、雨水だけを飲む
>>77780896
この場合は、「だけ」が使える
もちろん、「雨水だけしか飲まない」とも言える。
で「nothing but~」は、「~を除いてない」/「~以外ない」/「~他ない」なので、かなり意味が違う。

>>77773937
do the core deck and you will learn all the vocab in the guide with time

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>birds and rabbits have their own counter

o-oh no, what have i gotten myself into

>>77792994
Counters are fucking retarded

>>77792668
ありがとうございます

>>77791631
sounds unnecessary at least for my purposes, as I'm already going from kanji to readings, most of which are from words I know
it isn't that kanji are being confused with one another or anything

How do you guys study Tae Kim's grammar guide? I find I have poor retention for what he goes over in the book, the particles are easy enough but remembering all the different conjurations is difficult.

>>77793166
If you're having trouble with a section, read it over and over for a week or two until it's totally ingrained into your mind. That's what I ended up having to do with a couple of them.

>>77793166
Find more example sentences for that specific grammar and read them.

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>>77789691
>I'm learning the japanese language
>BUT I DONT WANT TO TALK TO JAPANESE GIRLS

you're on a losing argument, dude

How would I say "She is my date" in Japanese?
Do japanese have a word for date. Do they use Kana?
Would 彼女は俺のダイト be correct?

>>77793954
>normalfaggotry
>avatarfaggotry
>3DPD shit
you're on the wrong site, "dude"

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>>77780896
具体的に「しか~ない」が、nothing butと意味がずれる用例を挙げておく。
「成田の滑走路は2kmしかないため、大型機が着陸できなかった」
「梃子の原理により力は10分の1しかいらない」
このようにnot enoughとかless thanに近い。
方法等についてhave no choice but to doののような場合や「哀しい顔しか思い出せない」の場合にはnothing butが重なる。
>>77772660
>>77779472
>>77779631
>>77780590
>>77780896
>>77791802
I only drink rain water to improve my health
健康の改善に雨水だけ(/のみ)を飲む
I have no choice but to drink rain water to improve my health
健康の改善に雨水(だけ)しか飲ない

>>77794061
1. No, a "date" in japanese is the event
2. That says "daito," not "deito"

>>77794390
I was looking for a meaning of date as person who goes with me on the date.

>>77793954
>not learning japanese to communicate with your virtual waifu
You sound like a dekinai

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMbiL8D6qX0

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なぜ日本語を勉強するの

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>tfw to intelligent to understand this sentance

きょうとですんますい。
I live in Kyoto.

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This translator at ichi.moe seems to be good at recognizing colloquial compounds like one in image.
Do you know if there is a Dictionary File I could attach to to Yomichan or TA that would also recognize these kinds of complications?
(I still prefer to use Jisho for most of look ups, but in situations like this one it fails)

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Dafuq does it mean "it is not the original water"?!

>>77798631
Is that Shin Kanzen?

>>77798753
Haruo Shirane using some fucked up shit as an exaple.

>>77798631
もと here is 元, a の-adjective

>>77798827
>もと here is 元, a の-adjective
Oh that much I know

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>>77792994
Counter for dekinais: 儚

>>77798631
This is not a language issue, you just didn't get the picture.
The river stays the same, but the water flowing through it is always new.

>>77799092
>the water flowing through it is always new.
That's more like it.
He should have expressed it more clearly.

>>77793124
Oh I didn't realize you are studying the kanji for specific readings. I thought by reading you meant the overall "meaning" word assigned to it by various systems and dictionaries

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R8?

>>77803397
Clear those notifications and charge your phone/10 paisa

>>77803515
I mean the apps

>>77803397
Delete that crap and install Anki.

>>77803602
Aside from HelloTalk and Kanji Study I don't know the others. Kanji Study is really nice, did you get the full version?

>>77803630
Thre is a full version?
What are the pros of that?

>>77803621
I'm calling Bullshit and say that you haven't tried those apps

>>77803732
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mindtwisted.kanjistudy&hl=en
>The one-time upgrade unlocks the remaining kanji study groups and allows you to create your own custom sets.

>>77803824
Ah.
Nope.

Eggbun and Japanese dungeon seems to be my favorite so far

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>>77794336
wait so if I use だか that would mean "my only reason I drink rain water is to improve my health.
And if I use のみ that would be more like "I drink rain water to improve my health, and I drink nothing else."

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>>77795428
So I can move to Japan and help with their declining population problem, with my penis.

>>77803397
>dumbphone
>gimmicks instead of learning tools
You'd make better use of your time watching some manchild play Minecraft on YouTube.

Concerning おかず, is there a difference between 肉 and 肉系?

>>77805759
He's probably one of these millennials who drank too much fluoride water and has permanent ADHD, spending his evenings watching Youtube poop and other vapid videos.

>>77805759
But I learned english this way

>>77806003
You learned English by reading and listening to English like everyone else.

How long would it take starting from (near) zero to get to read something like Dragon Ball with a reasonable level of comprehension, assuming I can dedicate approximately 2-3 hours a day to study?

>>77806003
Spanish shares over 70% of its vocabulary roots with English and holds a "tier 1" difficulty in learning, because it's a rather close Indo-european Language. It requires 600 hours of study to acquire proficiency.

Japanese is a Tier 5 language, with a minimum of 2200 hours and its considered to be at a separate difficulty level compared to others (such as Chinese and Arabic).

Now multiply the time you took to learn English by 4 and that's how long it'll take you to get ok in Japanese at your leisure pace.

http://www.atlasandboots.com/foreign-service-institute-language-difficulty/

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>>77806532
Count the number of stars in the heavens and you wouldn't even come close to the number of years it will take.

私は日本語の勉強のこと刺激が居ないよ。 どうする?

Was that even close?

>>77806532
You can enjoy it and get the gist of everything armed with a dictionary after a few months. Without a dictionary, maybe 1.5 years for what I would consider "reasonable" comprehension, at 2-3 hours a day.

>>77806957
Thanks anon.

>>77806665
Ah.

What way of learning is the best you would say then hue anon?

What do you use?

>>77725692
What is he saying?

https://may.2chan.net/webm/src/1495458229179.webm

>>77807337
Reading and listening to native content supplemented by spaced repetition software (Anki) for learning vocabulary. Your Kanji Study app doesn't seem to use spaced repetition, so it's no good for long-term retention.

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>>77807902
Oh yeah, I emember now.
I used to watch big reviewers when I starated to learn English
Angry game nerd, nostalgia critic, pissed Alejandro, etc

Can you people recommend me a lot of youtube/niconico or wathever japanese channels?

Also could you link me that app or wathever

>>77808132
Read the guide

>>77807544
When I was still a student, I made Mako-sama my cellphone screensaver. It was truly a shock, but if she's going to be happy*, then it's ok.

I'm assuming he is talking about the news about she getting married or something.

>>77808467
Thank you, cara. I was curious cos he sounded very funny . Also, parece q ce manja mermo. Valew!

>>77808733
If it wasn't for the subs I'd be at a loss, though, males slur a lot.
He really speaks in a funny way, but I don't think it's an accent, just his way of expression.

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>>77808398
>>77805759
thanks!

How does it compare to the mondly japanese app anon?

I honestly believe that mondly and kanji study are very good apps but you say that the guide has better resources, but I wouldnt really know.
Have you used japanese resources in your phone anon?

>>77808132
nvm, found the exe in the guide, apparently the first app is the correct one

I would still appreciate if anons could give me alist of interesting video channels I can watch

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最高だね

>>77808936
Hue! We do slur a lot. I'm assuming you are a girl. Am I right? How did you learned Japanese? Are you half? To assumindo que ce é br, tbm.

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>>77808132
Duolingo is the best. After just one week of using duolingo I was already bragging to all my friends and family how much Japanese I have learned.

>>77809764
I'm a dude, I just mean understanding males in Japanese is twice as hard than understanding girls, since they use simples grammar and less convoluted contractions, since it's the cute thing to do.

y do u hav to rite lik dis when it coms 2 ur nativ lang tho

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your answer?

>>77810729Ah, ok. Hue! You just crushed my dreams and impulse to hit on a cute mestiça. That is ok, tho, your help on the translation of this funny guy was very appreciated, thank you.

>>77811261
3に違いない

>>77811261
Why is 花子 such a casual

>>77811398
This. Not because of the dude, but because of the glasses.

>>77811261
Physically looks like 3 but really is 2.

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日本の女を買う金がない
Do the Japanese really not have sex. How likely can I get laid if I were to go to Japan for a bit. Assuming I can speak a little.

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>>77812263
If you're so much better at having sex than a Japanese, why do you need to go there to get some, onii-chan?

should i wait until i finish reading a grammar guide until i do the dictionary of grammar anki deck?

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>>77812441
Because I have a fetish for long straight black hair.

>>77812713
Isn't the deck the grammar in itself?
I for one prefer to read it linearly, but having a deck to help remembering it can be a nice addition afterwards.

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>>77813255

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Ho-How acepting is japan of gay people?

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>>77813955
It's not Japan's approval you should be worrying about

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>>77813955
>Ho-How acepting is japan of gay people?

you already know the answer to that question, anon. you're just pretending you don't

>>77813955
Who cares? It's not like we're gay on DJT, right, guys?

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>>77814126
>It's not like we're gay on DJT
the /jp/ faggots would beg to differ

>>77814126
It's not gay if you like it.

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>>77814126

this is a little off-topic

but

on my way to work today, i was thinking about digimon, and now that i started learning japanese, i thought about it, and now i know what the "mon" after each digimon's name is supposed to mean

wow

>>77814126
Fernando I got some GREAT news for you.

>>77814502
His name is João

>>77814553
yes Fernando that's what I said
anyway
the news is nigga you fabulous

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>>77814443

>>77814571
Don't call me a nigger you fucking gyro

>>77814443
Monster.

>>77814591
I didn't call you a nigga cracka
>USA
>white
I called Fernando a nigga and IRONICALLY at that

>>77814593
yes, but it's being treated as an honorific

>君なら一瞬で分かってしまうだろう。
>You’d understand in an instant.
What's the purpose of しまう here?

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>>77814000
I'm atheist
>>77814079
I just dont want to lose a job or housing if I'm found out
>>77814126
I'm very gay

I just want my comfy translator job and cause no trouble.

Also, who in here has a job secured in japan or at least a good chance of moving there

>>77814717
If you obey "Don't ask, don't tell" you can get by in Japan

but if you're ever exposed as a gay foreigner in japan your social career is pretty much ruined

and believe me, you DON'T want to be alienated in japan

>>77814717
Just keep it private. Of course there is a gay culture in japan but it's kept under wraps even more than in most christian countries. I'm very much hoping I'll be able to get some boipussy on my next trip to japan if the girls aren't biting.

>>77814717
>lose a job if i'm found out
probably won't happen
>lose housing
will happen 100%

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>>77814796
>probably won't happen

Don't be so sure anon. Japan has NO discrimination laws against homosexuals. You can legally be fired for being homosexual with no legal consequence, although in practice it probably wouldn't be listed as the reason.

interesting read on this
http://www.japan-guide.com/forum/quereadisplay.html?0+84097

>>77814717
Is this Nadeshiko Shichihenge? I love these chibis but the show was insufferable to watch.

>the absolute state of this thread

>>77814687
てしまう is going to be either "(astonished) completely..." or "regretfully...". Most likely the former here.

>Yapan

>>77814717
I don't know if Japan is more open than Korea but here LGBT is genrally despised by people. Most of Korean think homosexuality is disgusting and unclean. Especially christian have extreme hate on homos as much as muslim does. People wouldn't publicly hate you but they would call you names behind you. This is at least recognition of Korean about homosexuality.

>>77816051
Homos are despised everywhere, even in the West. The prevalence of left-wing ideology gives the illusion of acceptance but behind closed doors, people still say the truth pretty much everywhere I've visited around the world. It's just sad that lgbts have this delusion that they are now accepted more in this great age of progress. Human nature and human instincts never change, and the majority of people recoil at such degeneracy. Incredible how our ancestors rightly banned it as it was a vector for disease, and all that is simply disregarded now.

>忘れかける
>to start forgetting
Is かける a common modifier? Are there other verbs that can be changed to "to start..." with かける?
Is it meant to be 駆ける I can't find other verbs that would fit?

>>77816885
Yes, かける attached to a -masu stem basically means that something as started, but not finished. やりかける, 話しかける, 食べかける, etc. It can also be in a noun form = -かけの.

>今後は無粋なツッコミはやめなさい
What's the meaning of 無粋なツッコミ here? Is it just talking about being a judgemental person?

>>77817361
First time I see kakeru used in this way. Is there a difference between 行ったところ and 行きかける. Intuitively I would say that tokoro focuses on the time and kakeru on the verb itself.

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>>77813255
my darkest nigga

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Doing some grammar exercises. Can't understand the issue with this question. Red is what I thought was right. Green is the correct solution.

Link songs with simple japanese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggLqHfrp20s&list=RDMMggLqHfrp20s

>>77821493
with いちどだけ it's "only/just one time" which gives you the "once" as a translation

いちどまえ would sound strange like "I came here one time before"

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>>77822268
thanks, I've got autism now

99.9% Japanese people cannot hear song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEQtkLNTmRs

>>77815275
Kimi ni Todoke

>>77725692
is there anywhere I can find a list of english affixes and their jp coutnerparts, e.g. -的~like, -さ~ness/nounifying adj. -未~un-

I need to know stuff like auto- or self- etc. I have a hunch what some of them are but googling 'english affixes japanese' just gives me honourifics

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がんばってください皆さん!

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What is this guy saying? I got that he wants to investigate how many of the people who use Twitter do sonething, but I'm not quite sure what it is.

>>77826436
I think he wants to know how much people use twitter in situation where they shouldn't.

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そんな悪徳貴族の家に、五歳になるわがままで横暴な嫡男である『ルーデル・アルセス』は空を見上げてその瞳を見開いていたのだ。

>>77826283
you should probably stop trying to mash the languages together like this in a shortcut-ish way

in general english takes in tons of other languages and sort of makes it work following the original rules, but laziness wins over time

japanese when it does the same thing tends to break every rule of the original language to suit it's own needs

just learn shit and then observe patterns for yourself instead of trying to fit square peg into round hole

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How do you get a cute japanese boy

Do I have to dress like his waifu?

>>77816204
Meany

>>77828715
I know japanese and english are different but there are still quite a lot of verbs which become affixes that I haven't seen gathered together. e.g. 化ける (becoming)->-化 (-ification). I'm not looking for a 1-1 correlation to justify my assumption, rather the reverse, I am looking to "learn the shit"; that being- which verb kanji are used as affixes. I just realised my best bet is searching (suf) and (pref) on JMDict

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今日は8日連続で仕事がある…
行きたくねぇよぉ

>>77810556
That's called being on top of Mount Stupid, anon.

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>>77831161
He was being sarcastic. (Pretend this is the "you don't even know English" one)

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>>77831266

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Thanks to the Anon that recommended Kinokuniya a while back

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>>77832298
Sweet. Still waiting on mine but should arrive sat the latest

>>77818923
行ったところ would mean the point right after the action/movement of 行く・行う was completed. Now if いっているところ could express something like "the point of going (to)", I don't know honestly. It might even mean more along the lines of "the point of having gone (to) (and remaining in that state)". 行きかける isn't extremely prevalent, judging from a quick search on google. It seems like it's used most in the forms of うまくいきかける or the auxiliary ていきかける. However in noun form 行き掛け is used to mean as you would expect, "on the way.."

>>77822268

Lord have mercy, just listen to the Peanuts original.

>>77833772
何を買ったの?

>>77822703
>thanks, I've got autism now
Let me fix your autism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIiB1RJfsaM

>>77830641
Your best bet is reading a lot and absorbing them all as you read

今日も中国語頑張るぞい

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>post your face when you are not anglo so you know 2 Langs plus in your way of knowing japanese

Stoopid anglos haha laugh at them haha

>>77835202
>plus in your way of knowing japanese
you_don't_even_know_english.tga

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>>77833891

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>>77835310
No your dum

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Rip

To be fair, I have only started 3 days ago.

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>>77810556
>tfw when I just found out jap is on duolingo
>only tested at level 7
Ayy carumba Dios mio

>>77836250
>わたくしの行ったのはまだ灯の点か点かない暮れ方であった
>灯の点くか点かない暮れ方
I'm confused by の点くか
not yet lamps lighting(verb?) (?か?) wasn't lighted time of evening?

I don't understand why 行く becomes an exception in the past tense. What's wrong with 行いた? Doesn't it just create more confusion since now both 行った and 言った are pronounced the same?

>ダメ is translated as "No!" instead of "No good!"
>何? is translated as "What the hell?" instead of "What?"
Why do translators have to put their own spin on everything?

>洗濯物出てるよ、お父さんに入れるよう言っときな
I'm having trouble figuring out what 言っときな means. I'm assuming that な is just sentence-ending particle, but I've never seen an inflection of 言う like 言っとき. Google also doesn't turn up much.

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>>77836781
See [5]. b. ...か…ない(か)

>>77837379
It means 言って置きなさい. You can tell it's the な that's short for なさい because it's attached to the stem.

The laundry is outside, tell your dad to bring it inside.

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>>77837722
I see, so it was "In twilight, when it isn't clear if the lamps are lit or not"
>>77837379
Possibly this
>言っとき 【いっとき】
>Compound word: 言って + とき
To say in preparation, to ask in advance

>>77836250
>carumba
English spelling is nuts. NUTS!

>>77838143
I think that's more just me being retarded.

>>77837271
Because translators have to transfer not only meaning but also the equivalent feeling to the target language. Nobody says ''no good!'' in english unless they are ESL, so why would you want to read something like that at the bottom of your screen?

>>77832298
What condition did they arrive in? I've only ever ordered from the JP Amazon and sometimes they come slightly nicked in the corners or a page or two has been slightly folded.

>>77832298
I wish we had a store that sold Japanese content without having to pay out the ass for shipping in Canada. Usually ends up being just as cheap to order from Amazon Japan.

>>77837942
Thanks. Is the って left out because it's slang?

>>77839802
There's no quote. Look up ように言う in DoJG.