At what age is it acceptable to still live at your parents house

we have to go university at 18.If you are still living your parents you are jobless useless fuck kys.Stupid fuck For this country.

>>77521798
So, 18 in Turkey?

>>77521814
yas.Can be 19 if you failed university exam.One more stressful chance.

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>tfw the failure child of the family.

>>77521841
Housing is easy to find for a 18-19 year old there?

probably about 35 with the current state of the property market

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>>77521852
Same. I'm the only one living at home and I'm NEET.

>>77521692
I am the first son. It is my duty to do so even though I'm married and have kids. Advantages include zero rent and having my parents' ear and first in line for inheritance. My other siblings are jealous as fuck of this. Disadvantages, no privacy and the occasional disagreements on how to raise my kids.

>>77521870
I'm 25 and I'm already starting to get mocked for it by girls and my friends.

>>77521880
I think In the next two or so years my younger brother will move out & I'll be the only one living at home. I am on disability.

>>77521886
Such a backwards system that the first born gets everything and your siblings get screwed.

>>77521860
depends city.If you are rich easy af.Buy some flats gangbang party n shiet.But if you are poor you have to get scholarship for student residence.

>>77521938
>I am on disability.
sorry m8

>>77521692
25

In the big cities where the waiting period for an apartment is between 2-10 years (almost 20 in central Stockholm) you can stay home until 30 without it being to unusual these days..
In the countryside/north? Around 18-24.then people look strangely on you unless you live on a farm with tons of space.

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>>77521987
>the big cities where the waiting period for an apartment is between 2-10 years (almost 20 in central Stockholm)

>>77522021
Yep. That's what you get with a housing shortage.
I moved last year after 3 years of waiting. And I only live in a 90k people city here in the south.
Up north it's a lot easier. And cheaper.

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>>77522021
This is 100% true.
I've been in a housing queue for 15 years and I still only get placed near the middle in queues for a semi-decent apartment.

way too high
no and I would never come back

>>77522089
Shit, same here. I've been gathering points for 9 years (I'm 27) and have at least a year left before I can move away from my parents flat...
If it wasn't for my job I would leave for the north right now and buy a cheap flat.
Here in Stockholm even the cheapest one available cost about 4 times my savings...

>>77521987
W-waiting periods for appartments?
Like, you can't just go and rent one?
Truely soviet tier.

>>77521692
23 and I still live with my parents but I'm moving out next month. If houses here weren't so expensive I would have done it sooner. Also if you don't have enough money the only way to get your own place is to share with other people here and there's no fucking way I was going to do that.

Still, my brother is 28 and lives at home so at least I'm not as fucked as him

>>77522201
>Like, you can't just go and rent one?
Nope, there is no apartments empty for that.
The south of Sweden is in the middle of a housing crisis.

>>77522086
>>77522089
That is fucking unreal

>>77522163
I don't even want to live here, I was just born here and I'm sort of stuck here because of it.
I would take an apartment pretty much anywhere as long as it's not literally in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by Mohammads, or is only slightly bigger than a closet.

>>77522201
You can if you have tons of money. Maybe.
The queues are for getting your hands on apartments at reasonable prices without needing to spend a couple hundred thousand euros on a contract.
Obviously if you're sitting in a queue like I am then getting a contract is pretty much impossible.

>>77521954
>>77521841
amk bu ingilizce ile nasil üniversiteye gircen comar oglu comar paraya yazik

>>77521692
18-20: completely normal, normie sluts might bully you for it
21-23: getting a bit ridiculous here, people will assume you're down on your luck or just incompetent
24: point of no return
25-30: neighbours will spend their time gossiping about the paedophile weirdo living on their street, if you ever need to mention it random people will move away from you and think about calling the police
30+: it's over anakin

>>77522270
Yep it sucks. Maybe 12-13 years ago you could go and check out 3-4 apartments per week if you were gonna move in my city.
Now it's like 1-2 per month split between like 800 (per apartment) interested people and the person with the most points get's to chose first. If that person denies it, the next in line. And so on.
Do the state build new apartments? Yes. But all the new stuff is brutally expensive and a normal income person can't afford it...
>>77522299
>I would take an apartment pretty much anywhere
Yeah same here if I wasn't stuck at my job.
Would move up to Umeå or something.

>>77521692
i'd say 20, but once you get a job, people won't take you seriously if you still live with ur mummy and daddy

here its abolutely ok if you work and pay most of the sendings
its not like you live with parenst, its like parents live with you

>>77522345
>24: point of no return

Even if I worked full time I wouldn't be able to afford an place to live here, unless I wanted to have like no furniture and/or sources of entertainment

Here in Norrland
>18-22
After that you are either a special needs person or something similar.
You can literally buy a small house here for 5k or a flat for even less.
My parents bought me my house when I turned 19 for 6k just to get rid of me lol. Single room design but pretty big.

>>77521798
What if you live too close to your uni to move out? (((((((((like me)))))))))))

>>77522740
>You can literally buy a small house here for 5k

So the equivalent of 700 usd?

How is this possible lad

>>77521692
I think we have exactly no standard about that.

>>77522777
By living in (what people consider to be) the least desirable part of the country. The further north you go, the more uncivilized the people are deemed and the less jobs there are (depending on what you work with.)
So basically a huge meme.

>>77522740
>live in Moscow
>average wage 500$
>average appartment price starts at 100000$ for 1 bedroom 30m appartment

>>77522810
>mfw the cheapest apartments near me are around $1500 USD a month

>>77522777
No I was using dollars.
Around 50-60k SEK.
The short answer is, it's cold and empty up here. Most people prefer big cities, not frozen wasteland.
Prizes drops.

Around here (Gisborne) you can be 16 and still live with your parents. After that you have to go and live on the streets until you get your life together.

>>77521692
I assume that many ppl in korea are living with parents during their twenty or could be more.

>>77521692
>17 unless you don't graduate high school until you're 18
>no, I'm twice that age
2,400 sq ft, 4 bd, 3 ba on 4 acres seems like a bit much for a couple and a dog, but she likes having a lot of room inside. I'd prefer more land t'bh.

Depends where you live, USA is a big place.

I know plenty of people in their mid 20s that still live with their parents because NYC is just too expensive.

On the other hand I have a friend from a small town in Virginia that moved out on $14 an hour lol

I make $15 an hour, and even if I worked full time it would be hard to move out

>>77522411
>points
What kind of fucking communist shit is this?
You can buy an apartment or you could rent one as far as I know, is that some sort of free/cheap communal housing or what?

>>77521953
>he prefers gavelkind to primogeniture

individualistic fucks like you are why families are collapsing in the western world.

>>77522917
Infact I just calculated, even if I worked 60 hours a week I still could not afford to move out :(

>>77522919
>You can buy an apartment or you could rent one as far as I know, is that some sort of free/cheap communal housing or what?
To rent an apartment you need to stand in line. You can't rent if there is nothing to rent.
So you wait and eventually a place comes available. Problem? Other people are waiting as well. Who gets the place then? The person who waited the longest. How do you figure that out? With a point system. The longer you wait, the more points.

And sure you can buy a flat. But most young people can't afford that. Not even close.

>>77521692
Id say that up to 30 its ok, after that it starts to be too much

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>>77521886
>be first son
>tfw society and family's religion doesn't practice male primogeniture

>>77522919
If you have the money then basically nothing's stopping you from buying whatever you want.
If you don't, and you can't afford to cough up a ton of dough to buy a contract and pay whatever outrageous rent they have in mind, then you have 2 options:
1. Stand in a housing queue for a few years (and assuming you're moving AWAY from the capital) at best or a few decades (into the capital) at worst.
2. Get some nepotistic help from your relatives, be a refugee, emigrate, or kill yourself.

>>77521692
why does your society want you to move out of your parents' house anyway?

>>77521938
>>77521980
>I am on disability.
Is that not a euphemism for "lazy leech" in your cunts?

>>77523027
I really don't know, if I had to guess it's because of the Jews

>>77523027
So people can start families and lives of their own?

>>77523040
Maybe. Might just be written proof of his disability though.

>>77521987
>the waiting period for an apartment
I don't understand this concept. Why don't they build more apartments?

>>77523040
People can have real disabilities though

>>77523049
we do the exact same thing here without having to "move out" or "get a place of their own"

>>77522994
This.

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>>77522986
>>77522996
Well I guess this is why most of Balkanfags live in Malmo.?
I currently live in New Belgrade with two flatmates and we pay around 240€ a month for a 65m2 flat.

>>77523071
>Why don't they build more apartments?
They do. Thousands. But new apartments costs a shit ton to rent.
Let me compare.

1. My apartment.
>built 40-50 years go
>renovated a few times
>3 rooms, kitchen, bath
>around 350 dollars per month

2. New apartment
>built recently
>same size
>around 800-1200 dollars per month

So young people can't afford them. Crisis goes on...

>>77522539
But aren't the parents still working? Do Kazakhs stop working in their 40s?

>>77523113
Little difficult to start a family and still live in your tiny childhood room...

>>77523071
>Why don't they build more apartments?
Because that's not how it works?
Even if they could just magically make new houses as fast as the demand for it goes up, how do you think the prices will adjust accordingly?
>build a new apartment
>it's modern and shit, mint condition, took time and effort to create
>oh I know, let's just charge chump change for it so people who need someplace to move can actually aff- haha do you think we're fucking retarded
>here, students/poor people who barely have any income, why not have a look at our freshly built 2 room apartment at 60 square meters starting at $1000 a month?

If there's a huge demand, they're gonna charge you OUT YOUR FUCKING ASS for it. They no legal obligation whatsoever to give a shit about why they're making the apartments or actually setting prices at what a very low-income bracket could afford.

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>>77523181
They build fucking ant hills for thousands people here and rent there costs dirt cheap compared to your prices and it's still too expensive for locals lel

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>>77521852
>>77521880
>tfw living alone in another country, parents are proud, friends are envious or impressed, model for siblings

Up till 35

I'm 21 and moving out in a week :)

>>77523240
>mfw studying in the US alone
>Entire family and friends thinks it's amazing
>mfw I actually want to kill myself every day

>>77523254
>studying in the US alone
>want to kill self every day
why? It's a second chance at becoming chad, did you fuck it up?

>>77523307
Everyone in the US is extremely shallow and materialistic

>>77523254
white girls love the BJC

idk desu
older bro is 26 and still living with us, I'm 22 and still in college for a year and a half more, so i won't be leaving soon

>>77523027
Because the West tends to be more individualist than the rest of the world, so it's shameful to depend on your parents as an adult. Adults are supposed to contribute more than they take from the tribe.
>>77523092
Of course, and I'll gladly help with assisting them. I used to think it was only an extreme minority who abused the system...
Then I lived in and worked with the public in Pueblo, CO for 3 years.
>>77523222
>They no legal obligation whatsoever to give a shit about why they're making the apartments or actually setting prices at what a very low-income bracket could afford.
Should they? Why? You a commie, boy?

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>>77523334
As if that is any different anywhere else on the planet

>>77523254
>>77523334
No, that's probably just the college kids in whatever meme city you chose. Have you considered that maybe you're weird to them?

>>77523439
Maybe

I go to NYU and people only care about the new iPhone and yeezys

It's also absolutely 99% far left, you can't even have an opinion that goes against the tide here

>>77523387
>Should they? Why?
They don't, and I wasn't arguing they do. Hence the
>haha do you think we're fucking retarded
If they'd be forced to set their rent at a certain level so students could afford it then there's no fucking reason for them to put any effort into building it. They're only gonna make a set amount of money regardless of how bricks and paper they make the building.
Capitalism and all.
That said, while there's no way to solve it without going full commie mode, it's not exactly like these apartments which are being built supposedly to help with the housing crisis are doing fuckall. If poor people are the ones who need new apartments and you end up making something expensive that nobody in that bracket (minus spoiled kids with rich parents) will be able to afford then at best you're wanking in the wind or at worst you'll end up with a freshly built apartment that nobody lives in because nobody can afford it.

>>77523254
>mfw I actually want to kill myself every day

That's just the normal Japanese state of mind. Get used to it.

>>77523468
>I go to NYU
>everyone in the USA
You should know that the 314,000,000 outside of NYC are nothing like that, and most of us hate New Yorkers more than foreigners do.
Go visit Vermont.

My parents kicked me out when i started highschool. I'm in uni now, only the wussified swedes and the shitskins live with their parents longer than 15.

>>77523656
Abdullah...

>be me 21yo
>have rich parents
>when I turned 18, my father gave me a house: 4 bedrooms, 3 bathrooms, 4 car garage, 2 living rooms.

the only downside is that it's in Honduras( A dangerous place).

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>25
>live with my parents with no end in sight

>>77521692
around 25 I think

I'm 18, I have no idea what I'm gonna do with my life besides studying law, which I hate, so if I'm not dead by then I'll probably still be living with them

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>>77523823
>Have rich parents
>Still willingly lives in South America

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>>77523882
that's what I was wondering

>>77523882
>>77524037
I'd live in South America

>>77524180
have you ever gone to south america?

>>77524315
Well no, but I've been to Mexico and Dominican republic.

>>77524517
and why would you live there?

>>77524739
Maybe not the Dominican, but Mexico was really cool.

>>77524792
how is it better than a 1st world country?

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>>77524909
What's so great about this shithole?

>>77525031
oooh so you have no idea what you're talking about
fuck off

>>77525031
Dude every place in South America besides maybe Peru is a complete shit hole

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>>77525132
Shut up, I've done my research pic related
>>77525301
Seems fine just a bunch of whiners who take it for granted

Until they die, after that is a bit creepy

>>77525301
Have you ever been to a single South American country?

>>77525506
I'm literally Colombian you fucking Kraut faggot

>>77525484
"seems fine"

>>77525549
Mexico was better than here. Sunshine, beaches, tequila, brown qts who actually enjoy being feminine, people actually enjoying life. You don't know the misery of being 1st world.

>>77525525
Sure you are

>>77521692
27
still acceptable

>>77525615
Yes yes no one can possibly have a different opinion from me!

>>77521954
>things are easy if you are rich
woah, really?

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>>77523237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPqfD_7s3g

>>77521692
Probably until you're 30

yes, I'm not giving up a big house with a big garden and a fancy pool

>>77525602
>Sunshine, beaches, tequila, brown qts who actually enjoy being feminine, people actually enjoying life
You were a tourist traveling. Of course that's all you're going to see, moron

You can be sure my experience in NY was miles, miles better than your experience in Mexico but even then I'm not dumb enough to think every american was living a normal life the way I was there, going to nice restaurants and being awed at touristic spots every day.

It all gets really old really fast and what matters is how good and comfortably you can live a normal life, and living in a 3rd world country is not nearly as confortable as living in Canada.

>>77525726
bitch invite me

>>77525775
I may have been a tourist, but walking around town seemed no different. Stfu don't ruin the image in my mind.

>>77525525
CHI

>leaving home at 18 and having to burn money on rent to look "adult"
good goyim
feels good to be a mamma boy in Italy like most of under 35

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>>77525963
The stigma here is big

>>77525963
I moved out at 19 and now I can't stand being home with my parents formore than three weeks maximum.

>>77526117
i can understand this point very well
it's just that having everything clean and food ready everytime for free has quite an appeal

question for all the foreigners who don't understand our way of living:
if you parents are old or generally ill, what would you do?
would you leave them in some hospice and forget about them?

>>77522345
stupid barbarians, when will they learn

>>77526270
>if you parents are old or generally ill, what would you do?
>would you leave them in some hospice and forget about them?
I'm taking care of my dad, he has lung disease. I won't move out because he needs me but I feel like I've been taken hostage sort of. I feel horrible even admitting that, but I can't really do shit with my life like this.

>>77526270
when my mom gets old i plan on moving her in with my family, kids will enjoy her company and some arab "medic" wont rape her in those old peoples homes.

I just moved into my own place a few months ago and I'm 28. I feel like it's a little late but I am at more stable footing than someone who spent their money on traveling in their 20s.

Purchased not renting, and the property prices are so high it's kind of a meme here.

>>77526156
yeah I lived like a bum for the first years, but then you learn how to do it, for example I pay a cleaning lady once a week and keep it pretty clean, and I still suck at food so I mostly eat outside or make basic dishes like pasta/rice and meat/eggs/fish etc.

the point is that my mum still treats me like a teenager every time I am over, I just can't stand their rules sometimes, after three weeks I can't wait to go back to my rules and freedom.

>>77526397
if he has cancer dad will be d(e)ad soon so you will be free
if he has some shitty little problem you should just go away
maybe hire some romanian woman to take care of him, we do like that here

>>77526397
I'm sorry for your dad, don't listen to the troll >>77526508
anyway you can still have a job or do your business while taking care of your father, or am i wrong?

>>77526501
oh i can do all of that, it's just that it's better not having to do it
about rules, well, it means you didnt fight for freedom when teen, cant be saved anymore
i do what i want

>>77526508
It's complicated, with COPD he can't even walk around without almost collapsing. He's on oxygen 24/7. He's lived way past his prognosis and I think he'll be here for a while. He has nurses coming in through out the week but you'd be surprised how fucking useless they are for actual home care. I don't plan on leaving him, but I'm pretty depressed about everything constantly.

>>77526270
> leave them in some hospice and forget about them
Only angl*s do that shit
I think my mom would kill me or I would die of shame if I left her in some dump when she was old or sick

>>77526397
It's okay to complain and be angry at your situation. Just as long as you are not abandoning him. Also can't you get like a healthcare provider/helper with your commie healthcare? Even my grandma has one here for ""free"".

>>77526270
honestly my parents told me to put them into a nursing home as soon as they start losing it because of age or disease, as a family we have been taking care of one sick grandpa and one grandma for years at home, and it's just draining and destroys relationships between other family members.

I will tell my kids to put me in a home too, just bring some sweets, wine and cigars sometimes so I can end it quicker (and merrier).

>>77526598
isnt it better to have fun and die at home instead of waiting 10 years pissing your pants and being immobile before you die

>>77526598
I know what you are talking about but i don't approve that way of thinking, unless it's something really impossible for a normal person
my parents raised me and it's my duty to take care of them

>>77526555
nah everybody has rules, I would also feel bad about doing what I do in my house at my parent's home, I can't stand their rules and the way they treat me like a kid, I have a great relationship with them otherwise but I would honestly never go back to live with them again.

>>77526583
i didnt plan to be edgy, that just was reality
if his situation is like that he really cant have much left
well yeah nurses arent supposed to do home care
that's for what we hire romanians, i guess your choice would be a mexico woman

>>77522261
Wtf normal swedes cant just rent an apartment but instead have to queue??

>>77526633
I don't want to ruin my kids' life, my mother has taken care of her two sick parents, both have been immobile in bed for years before passing away, and she had to come back from university abroad to take care of them, she never said she regretted doing that but always told me and my sister to please have somebody who does it as a job to take care of them when they can't do it on their own.

I don't want my kids to think of me as the reason they had to give up their ambitions, even if they love me until the end, it's not fair.

>>77526652
it's totally fine if you want to do that, I don't think there's any shame in putting your parents in a home if they are the ones asking and as long as yo don't forget about them.

>>77526633
it's not like you die if you stay at home nigger
>>77526598
happened to me too, got to the point where i hope to die at 50 to avoid to the others all the problems

>>77526548
thanks m8. I have a job but I only work a few days of the week right now between my job and my dad I have zero down time. I've also been fired from two jobs for missing work days to deal with taking my dad to the hospital or respirologist or to go do a whole ton of other things.
>>77526590
I won't abandon him. Yeah ours are free too but the nurses we get here come maybe twice a week and they are useless fucks. Like, one of them is doing a collage program and has no idea what she's doing so she just talks to my dad for about a half an hour and then asks him to sign her sheet so she can leave. They help me give him showers but otherwise I can do everything myself better than they can.

>>77521692
25ish average. I moved out at 26, renting and living with my gf. Buying a house or land its pretty much impossible for the average wagecuck

>>77526763
I know you weren't trying to be edgy it's a reality. Also we've hired a few filipinos but they can only do so much or they keep asking for more money or leave.

>>77526766
Yeah. The sad truth. Unless you have enough cash to buy an apartment (will cost you a lot) you will have to wait.

>>77526915
it's exactly the same here, it's a very tiring situation since you have to keep changing them to keep expenses relatively low, all together the psicological load from a dear person dying and trying their best to make you hate them even tho you wouldnt want it, but it's just hard
if you have brothers/sisters/cousin/youngaunts i suggest you ask for whatever little help you can get, as long as they are not pieces of shit who will ask even more than the pinoys

In my town, around 25 maybe.
I've been waiting for a place for 3 years (I'm 22) now.
To be honest, I'll probably have saved enough to buy a house before I get an apartment...

>>77521692
24-25 at the latest, beyond that it starts getting embarrassing. I moved out at 21.