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>go to vietnam for business >treated well >hospitality

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>go to vietnam for business
>treated well
>hospitality is awesome
>they are extremely interested in America, near admiration
>mention that I go to china next month
>gave me a look like I just killed a puppy
>nearly ruined business relations
>shit talked the chinese for a half hour
>all is good

Were the Indochina Wars really that bad? What the fuck did they do to them?
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>gave me a look like I just killed a puppy
They looked hungry?
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China is to Vietnam what the US is to Canada.
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>>77474312
Russia to the Caucasian countries is more accurate.
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>>77474814
yeah this not this >>77474312
or at least say USA to Mexico, i dunno
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>>77474142
People don't live in fear of America in vietnam, because ya'll got btfo.

People are however paranoid and fearful of china, average person there thinks china will steal the ocean from them, which is quite a fear in a coastal society.
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>they are extremely interested in America, near admiration
Why would they have bad feelings? They won the war after all.
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>>77474906
There's really no relationship in North America that's comparable to the one between Vietnam and China. Mexico and the US, despite all the superficial rhetoric, are on fairly good terms with one another and cooperate extensively.

If we were to include the Caribbean, then the relationship between the United States and Cuba is roughly comparable to the relationship between China and Vietnam.
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>>77474906
maybe the USA and Mexico 100 years ago

>>77476188
Cuba's relationship has been slowly repairing since the Cuban Missile Crisis.. But until we give up Guantanamo Bay it'll never be "good" relations.

>>77474312
America and Canada have a relationship that is far closer than any two European nations have
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>>77474142
no one likes china. especially around asia, why even bring that up as if it's a positive thing to mention
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>>77476498
Cambodia and Laos do. So does Mongolia to an extent
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>>77476472
>100 years
make it 70
but yeah i guess >>77476188 is correct
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>>77476472
>America and Canada have a relationship that is far closer than any two European nations have

I didn't notice any of that closeness when I had to wait 2 hours in a Greyhound at a border checkpoint in order to enter the US in Vermont coming from Quebec province, but when I went to France literally walked over a bridge without any physical or bureaucratic barriers, buddy.
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>>77477190
We have really lenient borders up north but we try not to let huge amounts of murders and rapists through our borders like you do
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>>77477190
I'm talking about how we're diplomatically inseparable. Not are borders you dumbfuck.
We have to be careful who comes into the country because of 9/11.

But diplomatically wise, Canada could invade France, and the U.S. would more than likely support them 100%. There is no two countries like that in Europe, or any where else in the world.
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>>77477213
That's the thing. We put freedom over security here.
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>>77477243
None of your countries have ever had a major terrorist attack. At least one large enough to make you tighten border controls. France came the closest but it was still small compared to 9/11
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>>77477235
>There is no two countries like that in Europe, or any where else in the world.

Btw, remember when Canada came to aid the US in Iraq? Me neither, haha.

Actually, I'd argue that the Japanese-American defense treaty is stronger, since in a case of an attack the US would literally take over the whole defense of the Japanese state.
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>gave me a look like I just killed a puppy
is this good or bad
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>>77477272
>None of your countries have ever had a major terrorist attack.

Accouting for population size, more people died in that Dutch plane that was shot down over Ukraine than in 9/11. Try again.
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>>77477315
Tbqh the U.S.-Japanese, U.S.-U.K. and U.S.-Canadian relations are absurdly strong. While it might not always show, if the U.S. was invaded tomorrow, by literally anyone, those would be the first three countries to give aid.

>>77477384
Yeah, and if I killed 300 people in the Vatican i'd effectively commit the largest atrocity in human history. That is if you account for population size......
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>>77477431
US-Canadian relations are not as strong as you think.

In my experience Americans tend to greatly exaggerate them while Canadians are quick to assert their distinction.

They are really nothing compared to the degree of integration lots of EU core member states share, like common political insitutions, even directly elected, open borders common currency, common market, common standards that go beyond metric vs. imperial bullshit, right to work and life and many more things.

Hell, EU citizens even enjoy voting rights at the muncipal level.
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GAS THE LEAFS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red
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>>77474273
Underrated
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You do realize that China and Vietnam have been enemies since the dawn of time. Vietnamese here absolutely hate the Chinese, mostly due to recent conflicts regarding China's territorial claims. You would never ever find a Vietnamese person that has a positive opinion about China here. USA on the other hand, most people have favorable opinions about them. Everything American is considered as good quality.
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>>77477534
Just take something simple like cooperation in crime and police matters. When there is a hot pursuit and a criminal is hopping the border American police literally has to stop and give up the chase.

Very different here. During a hot pursuit police forces of other member states are allowed to excercise their executive powers within the territory of another member state.
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>>77477621
I've been reading up on Vietnam and couldn't believe that Ho chi min was obsessed with the American revolution and formally requested the US to help them against the French.
You seem like good people
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>>77478038
He was a nationalist more than anything. All he wanted was an independent Vietnam, and the only way he could achieve that was to seek help from the communists. It's a shame that the US president at the time didn't offer Ho Chi Minh their help. Ho Chi Minh even copied the Declaration of Independence in Vietnamese. Vietnam would be much different country now
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>>77477621
Stopping lying to yourself.
Vietnam TV is full of China program.
You can't deny how much your people love China culture.
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>>77478102
Respect, my dude. Hopefully we'll become real allies one day
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>>77477243
Case in point: rapefugees
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>>77478102
Yeah that was messed up. We literally could had avoided a horrible conflict and made a good ally against china. Plus we could free your country from the french which is SUPER ironic because they helped us to win our independence.
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>>bomb country
>They like us
>leave country alone
>>They hate our guts
What is this meme?
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>>77478342
It's asian only.
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>>77478120
>have Chinese programs
>must love China
???

We also have American, Turkish, Korean, Indian series. It's simply entertainment.
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>>77476498
Good market especially for foodstuff and investment for railways as well as occasional favors. The only reason we got our citizens back from North Korea was China threatening their food supplies.
Asking favors from the dragon does come at a price though.
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>>77474273
You're thinking of china
Vietnamese people are pure.

They eat rats instead.
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>>77475223
Agent Orange is a bitch

>>77478120
And?
The US has tons of Canadian TV shows, doesn't mean we like Canada any more
Hell you guys probably have a few channels dedicated to our crap, doesn't mean you love the US anymore than before

It's entertainment man, someone who watches the Simpsons doesn't make them a raving Ameriboo
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>>77477534
>US-Canadian relations are not as strong as you think.
They are a lot stronger than you think.
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>>77474273
as a vietnamese this is a top fucking post.
>>77479912
honestly, i'll just point out.

most don't like americans anymore than the generic west, because they think the west is the best place to live imo. the average american doesn't have a special status there but aren't particularly hated.

just that there is chronic fear of chinese takeover since the chinese tend to be a very dominant culture and economically control south-east asia.

this is turbo-exagerrated because schools and government basically promote a fear of china/chinese takeover mentality in the same way the cold war promoted an anti-russian mentality.
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>>77479974
>AYE BUD LETS GO TAKE DA FEERD OUT OFUR DA BORDUR AND TAKE A GOOD RIIIIIIP ALL OFUR MONTANA
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>>77477431

Japan would and eventually will stab the US in the back when the time comes.
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>>77480008
And so they'd see the US as the Western challenger to China and subsequently hold them up as some sort of champion of anti-Chinese aggression?

Alright
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>>77474273
how do predictable dogeating remarks never get old? kek
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>>77480026
Let's not
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>>77480116
to a degree, yes the government has this view since its mostly true given the alignments of japan-china-korea-USA atm.

average person gives 0 fucks about geopolitics but are nonetheless still somewhat paranoid due to how strong the propaganda is about chinese taking over the economy or coastal regions.

nationalism is always a good tool of control and its used very strongly in this situation imo.
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>>77480133
Goober
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>>77480116

No, Vietnam is like a flag fluttering in the wind.
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>>77480008
Considering the chinks WANT to take over your fucking country, the fear isn't exaggerated
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>>77480161
t. Chink
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>>77474273
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>>77477621
>You do realize that China and Vietnam have been enemies since the dawn of time.
More like China has cucked and fucked and raped Vietnam since the dawn of time.

Don't try to make it out as a rivalry when it never was. Vietnam wouldn't even exist if the French didn't conquer it from China and made you a colony.
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>>77478102
>when Vietnam could've been a Korea-tier/Singapore-tier first world but communism
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>>77480553
>Vietnam wouldn't even exist if the French didn't conquer it from China and made you a colony.
Over my dead body, chinks. Give me a fucking reason so I could come to China and be a terrorist.
Give me a reason to live, I will gladly give one of my life for ten or more chink life. It's in my blood.
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>>77480661
To be fair you have to kill like 130+ to break even. And you can't even get to China.

All you can do is be butt hurt on the internet.

p.s. all viets have chink blood. u too r chink.
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>>77480553
They tried to invade us numerous times in the early ages, they only needed to win once, after that we were their vassal state for 1000 years before we gained independence. Since then they were BTFO'd everytime they tried any funny shit.

I don't know why I'm telling you this, you probably dozed off after thefirst sentence anyway you dumb fucking burger.
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>>77480723

alright alright we get it, you don't like china and china does not even give you a second thought.

man that's depressing, to hate someone so much but have them not even think about you at all.
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Friendly reminder that last time china tried to mess with Vietnam they got completely btfo
and next time wont be any different
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>>77480751
It's only depressing if you let it sit

Vietnam will buddy up with the US and the two nations can go hand in hand remove General Tso
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>>77480751
t. ping pong
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>>77480817
It's obvious, it's amazed me that those Chinese shilling under Western flags without feeling any shame.
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>>77480712
>To be fair you have to kill like 130+ to break even.
Easy, just load bomb in my body and blow myself up over any public place in China. Just thinking about many of chinks dead body around make me cum.
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>>77480871
indeed

Please forgive my country/flag for enabling all these subhuman CCP shills. Believe me, if there's a single group I could remove from the face of the earth, it would be CCP supporters without the shadow of a doubt.
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>>77480889
easy there my friend
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>>77480817
>>77480871
>>77480917

owch i think i hit a sore spot with the China jab.

sorry guys but you'll have to accept it. Vietnam to China is probably the most depressing love-hate relationship in the world.

after a thousand years of occupation, most of you are part Chinese already, they've already won.
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>>77480964
t. Wong Pong "James" Long
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>>77474142
>go to vietnam for fun
>"it aint me" starts playing
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>>77480964
Canadians are truly the shittiest posters on this board. Please fuck off Chinese diaspora #631359251
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>>77480998
make me mate, tough talk over the internet is about as lame as you can get. contribute something or banter.
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>>77480964
>canadian claiming to be vietnamese
>suddenly starts shit talking vietnam and praising china

Calling bullshit, wang. Fuck off chink
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>>77481038
Here's a hint: He's neither and you're all idiots responding to obvious bait
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>>77481038
when did i claim to be Vietnamese? da fuq mate?
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>>77480964
>look at map
>name is Vietnam, not Yuenan or Jiaozhi or whatever while other small nations around China got assimilated
>Vietnamese language still persists after numerous domination attempts
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>>77480752

To this day Vietnam has never fully recovered economically from the Chinese invasion.
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>>77480964
t. Manchu rapebaby
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>>77481065
How did you Viets do it?
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名誉を守るためにスレッドに来てください!
>>77480440
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>>77481110

Easy. Pick a part of the world with giant insects but no resources and fight to the death for it.
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>>77481059

This is you "mate">>77480008
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>>77481110
There's an old saying: "The will of ruler must yield to the people's customs". Old Vietnamese lives villages to villages, meaning the population's identity is tied to their village.
This makes them resistant to changes from the outside. Of course there's still exchanges within Vietnamese but it is nearly impossible for non-Vietnamese.
Furthermore, numerous invasion attempts from China made people tell each other and younger generations to be wary of the "enemy from the North".
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>>77481226

no, i'm
>>77480751
>>77480964
>>77481028
>>77481059


ya dumbass.
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>>77474142
most south koreans look down/hate china and subhuman chinks in general but viets are on the other level
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>>77481226
totally different guy, the other leaf is an actual autistic chink or chinaweeb.
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>>77481316
geezes, you state the obvious with history and suddenly you are a autistic chink or chinaweeb?

you viets are sensitive as fuck.
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>>77481316
Don't care. Eat shit chink
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>tfw will never talk to my Baiyue brothers
>literally, we're only one left of the Baiyue
>cantonese will soon be forgotten along with culture and identity of Yue
>bai, manchu and many of others already bite dust by Han assimilate
Can't help, you cunt made us to be this way. Our gens were modified by hatred as it's the only way to survive. One big China my ass.
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>>77481339
To be fair, Tai peoples (Thais, Laotians, Tays and Nungs) and Hmongs were also part of the Baiyue.
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>>77481307
why do they look down on their masters?
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>>77481371
All the "Beidis" (except Mongols) were assimilated through.
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>>77481336
nope you sound absolutely autistic.

you should re-read your post sometime.
>>77481338
k. back to /pol/ you dumb fat cracker.
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Vietnam is a worthless nation of backwards jungle monkeys who display absolutely no gratitude to China for helping them in the war against the Americans or the fact that they have no culture or civilization at all except what China taught them. Read the early Chinese accounts of Vietnam, they were little more than loincloth-wearing hunter gatherers when the Chinese came and taught them Buddhism, art, architecture, how to read and write, how to wear pants, etc.
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>>77481466
keep on, I've seen this exact post several times
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>>77481450
what's wrong with it?

china and vietnam has the worlds worst love-hate relationship. after a thousand years of occupation viets share many genetic similarities with ethnic hans. fear of invasion from their larger neighbor makes them apprehensive about China's intentions, however China doesn't think much of Vietnam in the long term. Notice the bullying in the south seas? there is no respect from China in regards to Vietnams claims or presence, they are essentially a non-issue to them.

China views Vietnam as a nuisance and non-issue while Vietnam views China as their biggest adversary, which is hilarious.
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>>77481466
>Read the early Chinese accounts of Vietnam, they were little more than loincloth-wearing hunter gatherers when the Chinese came and taught them Buddhism, art, architecture, how to read and write, how to wear pants, etc.
I thought everyone knows this? We're a part of the Baiyue and "Nanman" (ooga boogas) after all.
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>>77481482
most chinese from china dont hate vietnamese or think about them much. Just calm down everyone
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>>77481502
what about taiwan
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>>77481502
Fuck you I hate China
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Also half of the Vietnamese language is just Chinese loanwords.
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>>77481525
Same with Korean and Japanese.
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>>77481525
why can't chinks understand people want nothing to do with them. why is it so hard for them to understand this simple concept
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>>77481488
we don't fucking care IRL, this isn't even an issue people think about because everyone cares about their own little shit like making money, entertainment, and other normal stuff.

trust me when i say this, we are not at all an autistic bunch like east asians and nobody obsesses over dumb things from history. the viet flags here are just the small autistic bunch who do happen to care, but vietnamese culture in general is way, way more normie and not caught up in this stuff.

people who usually end up hating china usually do so because of shitty chinese tourists imo, or some chinese scam like fake rice or vegetables flooding the market.
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>>77481488
>China views Vietnam as a nuisance and non-issue while Vietnam views China as their biggest adversary, which is hilarious.
Are you dumb? Take a look at the world map. See, of course China are many time stronger than Vietnam. Of course they see us as a non-issue and that's why we view China as our biggest threat.

What wrong with take your enemy serious? China totally well deserve all my eyes and ear, all my sense for her because we're much weaker than her.
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>>77481488
>China views Vietnam as a nuisance and non-issue while Vietnam views China as their biggest adversary, which is hilarious
It's almost like most Russians can't even find Poland on a map but Poles lay awake every night in fear that the Russian army is coming for them.
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>>77481502
shitty chinese diaspora here m8, and autistic viet/leaf/aussie flags do.

i've never seen such collective autism as these kinds of threads.
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Hopefully China takes them over for another thousand years.
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>>77481574
>i've never seen such collective autism as these kinds of threads.
You've never seen an /ex-yu/ thread then.
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>>77481574
Most Chinese diaspora are fucking terrible peoples tho. I would rather have talk with my bro slant-eye chink at China than some diaspora fag at western countries.
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>>77480553
>implying China wasn't cucked, fucked and raped by the nomads since the dawn of time
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>>77481617
hmm i guess i'll check that out sometime, don't they all type in serbo-croatian though?

i sometimes go on balk to get a good laugh at the autism there.
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The VCP does take a bit softer view of Beijing than the general population; this is partially for fear of offending their giant neighbor and also out of some misguided (and comically outdated) ideological solidarity with a fellow communist state.
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>>77480964
You do realize that the Chinese are the most raped and mongrelized race in the world, right?
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>>77481561

i didn't say it was wrong, i said it was funny.
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>>77478038
>>77478102
That's not to say of course that the first 10 years after reunification weren't a period of immense hardship and brutal war communism with Vietnam being trapped in endless military conflict and Africa-tier living standards. To an extent it can be blamed on the Le Duan/Pham Van Dong leadership who were inflexible old men who simply didn't know how to run a country in peacetime, they only understood war.
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>>77481686

why the fuck should i care?
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Modern Chinese are not related to the ancient Chinese.
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Why are chinks such soulless drones?
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>>77481686
you know the average steppe turk looked like this right? the same ones that conquered roman europe via the huns decades before being assimilated.

they aren't white aryan nordics so you can stop claiming we wuz status now.
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This one too.
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Got a couple more.
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>>77481786
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qt break time
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>>77481808
GLORIOUS CHINESE CULTURE
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why do you spam in every china thread are you mentally ill?
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>>77481808
after all this time and all that turmoil, they are still 18% of the worlds population.

should i be amazed or scared?
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>>77475183
the fear of China is pretty well justified
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>>77481844
Are you talking to me? It's my first time posting them retard
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>>77481853
disgusted mostly. dunno how chink and pooinloos do it
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>>77481879
no i see these images in all china threads its really getting boring so just stop.
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>>77481844
Take the redpill, Zhang. Be the one that lead your people out of misery pit.
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>>77481932
How the fuck was I supposed to know that. Also don't tell me what to do. If you tell me to stop I'm gonna post it more.
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>>77481964
>>77481916
probably because all /pol/tards operate on the same mentality, IE dumb enough to think screencaps is an argument and just post pointlessly.

i don't really understand why you feel the need to just shit up an already shitty thread, but probably because it strokes your ego to call people names since your life is already quite pathetic enough that it actually gives you a boost.
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>>77481994
>it strokes your ego to call people names

is this your first day on 4chan? holy shit leave already snowflake
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>>77481994
Holy shit lol these screencaps really struck a nerve with you chinks, huh?

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
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>>77481646
Yes, but those nomads where raped by chinks or chinks who went rouge in the first place. Japs are just inbred island gooks and gooks are inbred pennisula chinks. mongols are just edgy nomad chinks. they were all chinks in the beginning and chinks still today.

chinos them all.
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>>77482021
no you are wasting post for actual discussion
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>chinks talking shit about other people saying "hurr durr we raped and cucked you"
>someone gives the chinks a taste of their own medicine, and they do a 180' and go "how immature", "grow up", "just stop".

el-oh-el fucking hypocrites
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>>77482071
where the fuck do you think you are?

>actual discussion
>4chan

You're an absolute retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d5eP0wWLQY
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>>77474142
could it be compared to England and Ireland? I see Japan and Korea get compared to the troubles often, with Japan being England and Ireland being Korea
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>>77482019
not at all. but there's a reason why some people are normal and post and discuss normally, while others act like manchildren.

manchildren have some deficiency they use the internet to fix. the deficiency is obviously your lack of self-esteem.
>>77482021
you need to stop thinking every post is emotional/angry/whatever. there's absolutely no way to tell my emotional state from that post since i didn't TYPE IN ALL CAPS like you did you manchild.
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>>77482089
honestly mate if you tell me you actual age i'd just dismiss it as childish antics if you were under let's say 15.

otherwise i'd say you have a complete lack of any kind of awareness and i really do pity what your real-life self must be like.

spending your time on pol isn't a healthy way to grow up.
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Second time Vietnam is conquered by China in start of the Ming Dynasty. The country was divided by a civil war and the Chinese emperor subdued Vietnam with ease. Most women in Vietnam gladly spread their legs for invading Chinese troops. It was the first time in their life they'd experienced this strange feeling called an "orgasm". Even court women/princesses taken away to serve as imperial concubines in Beijing.

After a dozen years, Mongols or something started causing trouble and China had to remove troops from Vietnam to fight them so they managed to regain independence. Lucky break for them.
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>>77482203
>>77482222

tfw a couple gifs btfo the chinks so hard that these butthurt rapebabies are now resorting to ad hominems
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>>77476472
>America and Canada have a relationship that is far closer than any two European nations have
Nordic countries are pretty damn close as well with each other, but it helps being two of only three countries on a huge as fuck continent.
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>>77477119
>So does Mongolia to an extent
Mongolians fucking despise China, there is a huge Mongolian nationalist movement spurred by China's aggressive policies and fear of Chinese stealing their country piece by piece.
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>>77482229
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So, are China-Vietnam relations kinda like Russia-Ukraine relations?
>same country, but due to geopolitical bullshit split apart, the smaller one developing gigantic inferiority complex in process
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>>77484120
absolutely

except this time vietnam has even less of a chance than back then gg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands
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Daily reminder that America nowadays is a nation of fat worthless mentally deficient bovines like the /pol/ screenshot poster who are getting ready to be slaughtered by the NWO.
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>>77484120
Well yeah, but we speak very different languages and very few ethnic Vietnamese know Chinese.
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>>77474142
South china sea and indochina war
Those two just killed the relationship between china and viet
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