Why didn't America just conquer the whole thing, genocide

>>77473918
Having fun in Cabo, Cletus?

>>77473918
Maybe, maybe not. I think one reason is that the birth of thr USA was too close to the modern era to do it without severe repercussions from other nations.

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>>77473918
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>>77473992
It's not like anyone could've stopped you.

>>77473918
To many brown people.
Northern states were literally empty, nobody wanted to go north because native fucked shit up. there was no infrastructure, Mexican government didn't give a fuck,etc.
In short, gringos didn't want to be non-white, hilarious when you examine the actual state of the USA.

they should have... at least they could get a true identity, but they rather waited and built on the shit from other countries and ended up with no identity after all

>>77474115
Why didn't they take all of the North? I doubt there was much people there outside of Tamaulipas and maybe Nuevo Leon.

>>77473989
You will be deported within 3 years.

>>77474074
Britain burnt our capital as late as 1812, for attempting to annex Canada

Not sure if they'd bother intervening a Mexican invasion, and Spain definitely wouldn't either.

>>77474389
>if you don't advocate for genocide then your a Mexican xDDD
Consider swallowing an unpinned grenade.

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>>77474520
you gonna be okay, little guy?

>>77474032
They got BTFO in all fronts
>>77473918
KYS

>>77473989
You have to go back

I don't understand self haters. You're never gonna stop being Mexican, might as well be proud of your country and heritage.

I sure hate summer, tons of Americans get a chance to shitpost with our flag

>>77474432
>he still thinks the War of 1812 was about annexing Canada

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Why didn't Mexico just conquer the whole thing, genocide the population and enslave whoever was left? It would've been better for everyone involved in the long run, I think.

>>77476112
>You're never gonna stop being mentally challenged, might as well be proud of your idiocy and behavior.

>>77476112
>Implying
You know, there are more good citizenships which are easier to obtain other than the american one.

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I know further, sir, that we have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race. The greatest misfortunes of Spanish America are to be traced to the fatal error of placing these colored races on an equality with the white race. That error destroyed the social arrangement which formed the basis of society. The Portuguese and ourselves have escaped—the Portuguese at least to some extent—and we are the only people on this continent which have made revolutions without being followed by anarchy. And yet it is professed and talked about to erect these Mexicans into a Territorial Government, and place them on an equality with the people of the United States. I protest utterly against such a project.

Sir, it is a remarkable fact, that in the whole history of man, as far as my knowledge extends, there is no instance whatever of any civilized colored races being found equal to the establishment of free popular government, although by far the largest portion of the human family is composed of these races. And even in the savage state we scarcely find them anywhere with such government, except it be our noble savages—for noble I will call them. They, for the most part, had free institutions, but they are easily sustained among a savage people. Are we to overlook this fact? Are we to associate with ourselves as equals, companions, and fellow-citizens, the Indians and mixed race of Mexico? Sir, I should consider such a thing as fatal to our institutions.

>>77476201
LOL, all this pretentious shit has gone down the shitter, feels good to know that this man's country is infested with every fucking skin color ever :^)

>>77476201
Damn, straight out of /pol/.

>>77476175
You can't change your blood.

>>77476112
>being proud of being the result of Indian cucks offering their daughters and wives to Spanish drunks/bums to rape

>>77476201
Well at least when white people say they have a native ancestor in the future they will actually mean it.

>>77476294
Oh, then I'm a french-spaniard then, ok.

>>77476260
:^) (^:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/4/illegal-immigration-down-67-percent-under-trump/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-apprehensions-20170309-story.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/why-is-the-undocumented-immigrant-population-dropping/426612/

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html

soy americano amarillo pero hablo espanol un poco. pero naci aca. entiendenme?

>>77476335
why do you speak spanish? are you from cali or something

>>77476298
And then what are you?

>>77474432
t. Canadian on proxy
Invading Canada was just a result of the War, not the cause

>>77476331
Ok, and you have all the legal latin americans, indians, chinks and your nigger population left. Practically 50% of the US is strictly non-white.

>>77476335
Why would you learn a monkey language?

>>77476158
>mexico
>good at war
kek

>>77473989
You will never be a real American with that attitude.

>>77476364
si, soy half-chicano
quero aprender espanol para hablar con mis primos
please rate, shit/10 or what

>>77473918
>Why didn't America just conquer the whole thing
The same reason Mexico couldn't hold the southwestern states: geography. Power isn't easy to project across the desert that separates the two at the modern-day borders, so holding the Mexican heartland is neither feasible nor desirable for the United States. Sure, there can be military expeditions by both sides to temporarily disrupt the other, but long-term occupation and administration would be far too costly.

This is incidentally why Aztlan will never be a reality, despite the fevered dreams of chicanos on /int/. It can never meaningfully unify with Mexico or maintain a strong military alliance with them due to natural geographical borders. In addition, the power of the eastern USA is so great that it doesn't even have to be consciously projected to utterly dominate the western half of the country.

>>77476411
callate, chicano vendido

>>77476112
Nigger mentality right there

>>77476503
9/10. don't use yellow to refer to yourself, just use asian like a normal person.

>>77473918
We could've, we just didn't want to. President Hoover (?) said that there were just too many amerindians.

>>77476508
Most CHIs have some idea about Aztlan being a separate state, few of them actually want to be part of Mexico.

It would just take a couple of button presses to turn Mexico into glowing green waste.

>>77473918
Because latina pussy.

>>77476698
the rest of latin america would still exist

>>77476557
muchas gracias anon

>>77476508
did you skip the genocide part?

Trying to occupy and hold the Mexican heartland for very long would have been almost impossible, especially due to tropical diseases like malaria. Approximately 80% of American military casualties in the Mexican War were from disease rather than combat action.

So when are Mexicans going to rise up against their corrupt government?

>>77476383
>>77476142
It definitely was

>>77476815
>2017
>revolutions
That's only for sub-humans like Arabs or Slavs

>>77476841
Well how is Mexico ever going to develop with a corrupt and violent government that holds the economy back?

>>77476424
But mexicans are the sons of both brave Aztecs and sophisticated and worldly Spainards. I mean, it would such a disappointment for Mexico to not be good at war.

>>77476577
Aztlan would be even more of a non-starter as a separate nation. Despite controlling California, the naval power of the US would keep it blockaded and effectively make it a landlocked nation. Without access to imported foodstuffs, it would essentially starve as the vast majority of arable land in North America would lie outside of its borders.

Mexico also has no interest in a state like Aztlan emerging. At best, it would be another competitor for American capital and resources that Mexico desperately needs for industrialization, and at worst, it would become another cartel-dominated shithole that could threaten Mexico's national security.

Do all Mexicans hate themselves so much?

>>77476902
Even more than the Spaniards, surprisingly.

>>77476201
And he was right.

>>77476866
Spanishits suck at war and considering the Aztecs were defeated by them of all people they obviously sucked at it, too.

>>77476866
>sophisticated and worldly Spainards
lol

>>77476424
>Forget we only lost to the USA and France once

>>77476945
Well shit, I guess what I was told was wrong.

>>77476946
Is it wrong? They explored damn near everything.

>>77476952
>only once
Is there going to be a round two? I hope not.

>>77476902
Only the depressed neets on 4chan desu. I'm in Mexico right now and I haven't felt that sentiment at all.

>>77476883
couldn't aztlan just ship food from mexico? or rent ports here? i doubt you can maintain a blockade all the way from northern california to chiapas

>>77476952
>lose the most relevant wars in our history

>>77476994
Never, I'll rather help you beat some one else
>>77477057
>Forget France tried the second time to make us a client state

>>77477092
Well I hope you like Korean food, looks like that's where we're going next.

>>77477029
Hence the second part of the post. Mexico has no interest in a state like Aztlan existing. It can't meaningfully control the territory and from a geopolitical standpoint, can only see it as a competitor for American investment or a failed state that harbors hostile elements. Supporting Aztlan would also threaten the infrastructure that transports cheap American natural gas into Mexico.

The Mexican choice is really no choice at all - support a rogue state full of CHIs larping as Indios or become a fully-industrialized economic powerhouse?

>>77477222
That makes no sense. Why would America invest in a new country that rebelled against it?

>>77477222
>become a fully-industrialized economic powerhouse?
cause that's totally going to happen

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>>77473918
>genocide the population

Germany tryed that with the jews and look how it turned out

>>77477304
Not with that sad attitude, mi amigo. You just need war or five to really get your people going and become like the United States.

>>77477336
pretty well, i'd say
>>77477356
invade us and make us like you

>>77477304
You underestimate Mexico's potential. It has a young, dynamic demography with a growing demand for consumer goods (in a world where all the other big players are rapidly aging into ruin), and it's adjacent to a nation that has the largest accumulation of capital in human history. The Mexican government knows this, which is why it's become significantly more friendly to foreign investment in the last decade.

With sufficient investment, Mexico will easily be one of the top ten economies in a few decades.

>>77477449
Okay, you really seem like I nice person, I like that, and I wish you were right, but here the thing: Our government is corrupt as fuck. Like, not just "corrupt", but CORRUPT, and most of the population thinks they can overcome bad government by "putting effort into their own thing", and anyone who dares to say otherwise is automatically labeled as a lazy commie.

>>77477499
Tribalism
That's our problem
The root of corruption and laziness is there

>>77477499
>corrupt
we literally have trump

>>77477683
Imagine how corrupt our government is, for me to say that I would prefer Trump's corruption anyday over our government's

Seriously.

Trump hides information and favors his businesses, our government literally steals tremendous amounts of money. Hell, one governor gave placebos to KIDS WITH CANCER to keep the money of the actual treatment.

>>77473918
Mexico pls invade

I'd rather have mexicans running this country than hondurans

>>77477758
>placebos to KIDS WITH CANCER
no fucking way.. this is fucking depressing to read. i hope that's just one isolated case of a massive faggot who should burn in hell.

>>77477773
no

>>77477758
I really want to see Duarte executed
And the thing that make me so fucking mad is the fact that his fucking wife will be able to keep the money and escape because fucking LOOP HOLES
>>77477925
It's a case of PRI

>>77477925
http://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/duarte-dio-agua-en-vez-de-quimioterapia-a-ninos-con-cancer-yunes.html

>El gobernador de Veracruz, Miguel Ángel Yunes, dijo que se está investigando a algunos exfuncionarios por haber presuntamente desviado recursos financieros del programa de Seguro Popular.

"Veracruz's governor said ex-politicians are being investigated for possible theft of financial resources from the public healthcare system"

Sadly, corruption within our politicians is not an isolated case. Violence, drugs and laziness ARE arguably isolated, but corruption is the actual problem we have always had. Thanks for the empathy with our children btw.

>>77473918
Kill yourself

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What we need is a damn good war to get the smart juices flowing onto industry, instead of trickling into the USA by cherry-pickers.

>>77477758
>Imagine how corrupt our government is, for me to say that I would prefer Trump's corruption anyday over our government's

Just wait for when Obrador wins next year

>>77478143
Invade the Central America states (besides Panama) for a start.

>>77478119
triggered?

>>77478231
To be quite honest, we like to bant each other a lot, but nowadays latin americans don't hate each other unless provoked. There's some kind of brotherhood in the sense that we all feel deceived by our governments, and we all feel the same economic unsteadiness while trying to make ends meet every single month. We see no point in adding more shit to the fan.

>>77478145
Well, I'm rooting for Obrador. His whole campaign has been about dealing against corruption, yet he's only labeled as literally the devil because muh Venezuela. Capitalism or socialism, neither would work if we still have corruption. If the first president who manages to erradicate corruption is a full blown commie or literally hitler, I wouldn't care, but the step is needed regardless of who takes it.

>>77478337
I would have told you to fuck off last year
But after all of this shit. I'm willing to try the poison to cure the desease

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>>77478145
>>77478337
Random question.
What do you guys think of this guy? Was he any good?

>>77477947
DO IT YOU CUNT. I'M ASKING YOU TO RAPE ME!! DO IT!!!!

>>77473918
This thread is a ridiculous self-hating crap, you can go a fucking african country, and be a slave with your chimp friends if that is you want

>>77478337
Speak for yourself, faggot, I don't like anyone south of the border. Ban Latin America immigration, I don't want a single one of them in this country.

>>77478450
Why are Mexicans so racist towards Blacks?

>>77473918
You make this thread every single day

>>77478448
they will outsource this task to el salvador

>>77478492
talk shit about someone else to take the attention off of you and make yourself look better

>>77478422
Literally useless. Not as in bad or good, but useless. Of course, in real life politics being a useless president yields bad results on the long run. Lotsa memes came from him though. People liked him as a person, but as a president he is known for doing nothing. Nostalgia effect is always present though, people like to praise any president after two terms have passed.

>>77478500
show me the lat one, then

>>77478422
Was a good guy but too corrupt, i still remember his worlds, "the mexicans in the US do works that the niggers dont want"

>>77478448
Well if we all centralamerica and mexico didn't fucking independece by New spain we were much better thought

>>77478448
shoo shoo

>>77478422
Nope. All he do is atention whoring now

>>77478559
your last sentence in unintelligible

>>77478565
I want a mexican to rape my sister.

>>77478506
It's so sad, isn't it?

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>>77474074
>>77473918
>>77473992
>>77474432
>Britain burnt our capital as late as 1812, for attempting to annex Canada
Stop being a fucking cuck. We totally won that war. We sacked and burned down toronto (their then capital) Britain paid a huge sum of money to ship and arm troops to Canada to fight us and we took everything from DC before they got there. In their rage they tried to burn the capital but largely failed because everything there was made of stone. They still manage to burn the outside(again at the cost of their fuel).

So we did win that war since we were basically fighting 1812 to help out Napoleon and the French for helping us rebel against Britain and selling us all that land.

>genocide the population and enslave whoever was left?
1. Because Mexico resisted it.

2. A good portion of the time Mexico was under the protection of the Spanish/whoever the Spanish merged with.

3. Because genocide wasn't OK. It was OK for non-white, but Mexicans had white blood.

4. USA was pre-occupied to taking land in the west.

5. Politically speaking it would look bad for USA. USA wasn't always as strong as it is now. European powers would have frowned upon that. Spain and others would have helped out if things got serious. Other Latin American nations would reject American influence for centuries if we wiped you out.

6. A shitty Mexico benefits the US because we always have a constantly supply of cheap labor close to us. Be it for importing to the states or using as a sweatshop. This is why shit in Mexico never gets better and US never intervenes to fix shit there.

it would have been a lot of work, and really, christian people wouldn't be on board with something like that against other civilized ( albeit marginally) christians

>>77478506
Thanks, im OP i confese that im such a faggot :3 pls bring me lots of cooks of niggers

>>77478559
>Le muh hispanidad
¿Sí sabes que la independencia se hizo para que México funcionara como Nueva España funcionaba? España estaba cambiando su sistema político y eso no le convenía a los que ya tenían poder aquí.

>>77478592
nobody likes centracas, fuck off
>>77478660
you must be raging

>>77478592
post sister. i know a chi who may help you

>>77478640
>christian people wouldn't be on board with something like that against other civilized ( albeit marginally) christians
they were okay with slavery and genociding native americans, i don't see why they would hesitate with mexico

>>77478792
it was long time ago and hopefully people are more civilized now, r-r-right?

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>>77478792
>they

>this entire thread
kek

>>77478830
Of course, it's 2017! :D

>>77478917
>>77478964
shoo shoo

>>77473918
It wouldn't have been feasible. Mexico was far too large, and the US Army was pretty small at the time. The US would have been fighting rebellions for decades. Not to mention the fact that Americans were not eager to bring in millions of Mexicans as citizens at the time. Northerners were also concerned that the new Mexican territory would all be slave territory, too.

don't hate mexicans, just the ones that come here

>>77474520
>not being allowed to live in someone else's country
>muh shoah
why are spics and most people of hispanic ancestry so stupid and lazy?

>>77479012
White presence in the Americas and Australia is illegal

>>77478792

you did not read, my post, for one, indians aren't "civilized" christian peoples, who come from a real state

and, they weren't genocided

also, I history is proof that we indeed did not care for the institution of slavery, so in light of the hundreds of thousands of americans that perished to see it toppled, may I just tell you to go bugger a sponge.

>>77479043
Stop acting like a Turk and denying genocide.

>>77479036
>""""""""illegal""""""""""
>implying the natives had laws
good laff jose

>>77479043
kys revisionist

>>77479063
>>77479078

honestly, go fuck yourselves

thanks and goodnight

>>77479077
north america for north americans and australia for australians

white people need to go back to europe

Mexicans are disgusting
Government filled to the brim with corruption
Police getting bribed to release criminals
Celebrities colluding with criminals
Uneducated plebes glorifying drug dealers
Criminals stealing and murdering without consequences
Millions of illegals pretending to get the same rights that Americans have without committing to have the same responsibilities

>>77479151
>shitposting inside the same thread you tested your proxy

>>77479182
>not refuting any of his points and just say he is a samefag with a proxy

>>77479202
>giving countrylets the attention they don't deserve

>>77479258
>just a green text to give you (You)

>>77479302
>(you)

who AMLO 2018 here?

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>that one time an American diplomat fucked up and skipped buying Baja California

JUST

>>77481199
tell me more

>>77480864
me :3

>>77481225
James K. Polk wanted Baja, he sent Nicholas Phillip Trist to negotiate the aquisition of Baja along New Mexico, California and the Nueces Strip, he was instructed to offer 30 million if the initial offer was declined (15 million), time passed and Trist started ignoring orders, at the end he drew the border line just separating Baja with a tiny strip of land connecting it to Sonora. He was fired upon returning to the US. That's how I recall the story once I red it from a book about The Mexican-American war

>>77473992

Spain already made too big a fucking mess of the place. WE already had more land than we knew what to do with. The battle against mexico for texas was actually pretty brutal, and hard fought. we pushed our borders as far south as we could, to the RIO.

I have nothing to say except mexican women are hot

>>77476902
No. The funny thing is that normal Mexicans are extremely proud.

Baja California was worthless desert that nobody lived in, however the Mexican delegates were reluctant to part with it because they claimed they needed the place to control smugglers or something to that effect.

>>77481417
But you would have more beaches, plus another Democratic state.

>>77481417
There were a number of letters directed to the President about the riches of that territory. Can't remember to which one but I guess it was Jackson or Polk can't remember.

>>77473918

An invasion would have been extremely costly and not a guaranteed success. Moreover, occupying all of Mesoamerica would mean absorbing millions of Mesoamericans who probably would have just demanded independence later (as in the Philippines).

>>77481534
Didn't you guys took our capital in like a week.

>>77481549

well yes, but it's not like the public wanted to take over the country, simply getting satisfaction from that nation's government was the chief goal, and rescinding their claims on empty lands taken from spain of course.

>>77473918
I think we should have taken Baja in the peace deal. The country would look so much more A E S T H E T I C with a peninsula in the west to give symmetry to Florida

>>77481549

Which we used as leverage to obtain the southwestern United States. Taking everything in perpetuity from Baja all the way down to the Yucatan would have been another matter. The US itself probably wouldn't have tolerated that.

>>77481631

I think it would be nothing but a highway for mainland narco cartels.

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>>77481698
It would actually shorten the border a good deal

Besides, look at this shit. Beautiful.

>>77481439
>But you would have more beaches
Ok.
>plus another Democratic state
???

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>>77481724
And then we can gradually make deals with a desperate and crisis laden Mexican government to take more and more land, Louisiana Purchase style

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>>77481743
I like where this is going

>>77481724

It would shorten the land border, yes, but it would open up a massive maritime interface along the Gulf of California. A smuggler's paradise.

It would be nice to unify the Pacific coast, though.

>>77481743

but they have to resettle the people in those territories somewhere else

>>77481739
Easy, Republicans can take the state.
>abortions bad
>religious freedoms!

That's how you win Baja without so much as breaking a sweat.

James Polk did not, not, not want anything south of the Rio Grande. Some Southerners fantasized about taking Tamaulipas for cotton land, problem was that it was fairly densely populated. They wanted the land, but not so much the people living in it.

>>77481757
>It would shorten the land border, yes, but it would open up a massive maritime interface along the Gulf of California. A smuggler's paradise.
Ah, that's true. A placid, warm, and narrow crossing like that would have the Coast Guard in a fucking panic attack

>>77481764
Why would that be popular in an American Baja? I think it would be a Democratic state because it's on the West Coast and would probably be full of Mexican plus transplants from California.

>>77481795
>I think it would be a Democratic state because it's on the West Coast and would probably be full of Mexican plus transplants from California
There are only two reliably Democrat states in the six carved out of the Mexican cession.

this thread is AIDs, there's enough US already

>>77481832
>California
>Nevada
>New Mexico
>Colorado
And Arizona is pretty close

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>>77481774

Didn't Polk want the northern half of the country?

>>77481776

Indeed. One can imagine we'd have a much larger Coast Guard as a result.

>>77481832
Most of the territory that's now Colorado was already part of the US in 1848, so that shouldn't count. Nevada also is almost completely Republican outside of Las Vegas and Reno.

>>77481920
>>77481832
He's taking the broad-based assumption that American politics would work like OTL if we'd annexed Baja California while they could have been much different.

>>77481941
Do you think an American Baja would be Republican or Democrat?

>>77481946
I have absolutely no idea desu. California was also Republican until the 90s.

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>>77481920
Everything but the westernmost edge of the state was added to the US with the Louisiana Purchase.

>>77478636
This guy has no fucking clue about any of this.

>>77481857
If this had happened, Los Angeles probably would've been irrelevant and some other city in Baja would take it's place.

>>77482110

Yes, I was just thinking this myself. The socioeconomic history of the US would have been quite different.

>>77476508
Mexicans generally just viewed Alta California as a bunch of backwards, barbaric herdsmen and they had little, if any ability to hold onto their remote northern territories. In fact the US did not have a secure grip on them either for the first 15 years, one reason for the construction of the Trans-Continental Railroad was to tie California and Oregon closer to the rest of the country and prevent them from seceding from the Union.

>>77478636
I hate this mind numbingly retarded yank revisionist history.
>A good portion of the time Mexico was under the protection of the Spanish/whoever the Spanish merged with.
This person knows nothing about the 19th century or circumstances surrounding the Mexican American war.

>I would posit that the first event in the decline and fall of the American Empire was:

>The Mexican-American War (1846-1848) - The failure to completely annex a defeated country during a high tide of racial expansion and folkwandering marks our starting point.

>For starters, it had already been legally established under the Missouri Compromise (1820) that slavery was allowed south of the 36° 30' parallel, and so opposition was really a Northern jealousy over their own lack of perceived benefit from expansion. (Never mind that almost all American shipping was done through Northern ports, and ships carried Southern exports or products made with Southern raw materials).

>The other two arguments at first may seem more racially and culturally sensible. Annexing all of Mexico would have meant more non-Europeans. But the entire territory of what is today United States had 250 years before the Mexican-American War contained nearly no Europeans, and plenty of other peoples. Their presence has simply never been an obstacle to our expansion. More importantly, there was already existent in 19th century Mexico a mostly Aryan ruling caste, and that combined with European and interstate American migration along with birthrates would have significantly Aryanized the would-be territories over time.

>On the issue of Catholicism, it seemed to have not stopped the British from contemporarily ruling Ireland (under a government where freedom of religion was not enshrined no less) so why should it have proved so greater a problem for the United States ruling Mexico? The irony should not be lost that today the plurality religion in New England is Catholicism, and hence their complaints were all for naught since they allowed its spread to occur anyway.

tl;dr americans have no balls like the brits did

>>77482250
>But the entire territory of what is today United States had 250 years before the Mexican-American War contained nearly no Europeans, and plenty of other peoples

Most of the place was empty desert that nobody lived in, there were just a few Indian tribes and about 25,000 total persons of Spanish descent in New Mexico and California. This is in comparison to the 7-8 million Mexicans who had a settled, developed nation with laws, roads, cities, a government that the US recognized, and an army.

>>77482158
less revisionist history more of uninformed idiot.
>>77478636
There was a shit ton of opposition to the war in the United States, and a shit ton of opposition to annexing ANY land, let alone an entire other country of non anglos. Best case scenario in an expanded secession would be Baja. Change up history a bit and maybe the Yucatan too.

>>77482281
The Brits ruled India with a few thousand officers. What, is Mexico too big a nut to crack for you?

>>77482303
For a country without a standing army, with a massive divide between half the country, and that shares a land border?

No shit.

>>77482303
>why couldn't you guys just do what arguably the most powerful empire in history did?

Piss off redcoat

>>77473918
Why didn't Spain?

>>77482303
You weren't also trying to annex it directly into your nation's territory and assimilate a completely alien population.

>>77482110
Everything between the north and south of the peninsula is a desert.

>>77482385
Spanish are retarded

>>77482597
They must be. Why else would they lisp all over the place?

>>77482349
>implying ruling somewhere on the other side of the world with 100x your population isn't far harder

The slavery divide isn't an accident, it's americans being stupid and killing each other over pointless issues.
>hurr i don't like this institution so let's kill hundreds of thousands of my own countrymen

>without a standing army
The US had a standing army by this time

>>77482464
That's literally what the UK did with Ireland.

>>77482382
So you say the reason is that America is inferior?

>>77477442
Proxy-Tourist flag detected.

I fucking hate U.S.A. so much, I hope they build the wall and then get fucking nuked by North Korea or Russia.

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>>77473918


>HURR DURR WHY DON'T THE US INVADE THE WHOLE THING

meanwhile in real life...

>>77483894
SESENTA POR CIENTO JAJAJAJA

>>77479036
The native americans were catholics who spoke Spanish.

>>77477925
Former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich was convicted of shaking down a children's hospital. I suppose it is a bit of a testament to how relatively uncorrupted or government is, that he is sitting in a prison cell in Florence, CO as a result.

>>77473918
We were still just settling the west at the time which remained pretty lawless up until the turn of the century. A lot of foreigners forget or dont know we were pretty weak militarily speaking until the war. We couldnt have dealt with a foreign population that size at all much less set up the infrastructure to deport them or genocide them. That was the exact reasoning why we only annexed the unsettled parts of Mexico

Because we didn't want a bunch of Mexicans in our country. The parts that were annexed were mostly filled with Anglos.

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>>77479036

What are some good proxies?

>>77476902
Quite the contrary, most are really nationalistic.
There are kinds of "Mexican" self-haters on /int/, and IRL only one type:

1) Burgers or other people on vacation
2) Proxies
3) Right wingers that long for a past that was never real (the only types that exist IRL, and a minority).
4) Depressed NEETs that hate everyone and everything to justify their depression (Mexico has among the lowest depression rates in the world, so, again, not relevant at all).