why japs pronounce strange english? ex) the → za mcdonalds

I wondered the same shit for years. I can't find an explanation anywhere. yet japs are fucking terrible at english?

Is that jojo reference?

>>77444864
Their language limits them.

Its hard to get used to phonetic of other language, that why we have accents

>>77444864
LOOK WHO'S TALKING

because their language can be broken in certain distinct building blocks while english is much more vague when it comes to pronounciation. it's the same in finnish and thats why rally english is a thing.

>>77444864
Probably the same reason English has a million French words that aren't pronounced like they should be.

>>77445000
what's wrong? tojo

>>77444864
It's because the Japanese language is built on a more limited set of phonetic sounds and many sounds which exist in English simply don't exist in Japanese, making it harder to adapt to.

toki yo tomare za warudo

>>77444955
That's fucking bullshit. English is as foreign to Russians, yet IF WE LEARN IT well enough, we change our pronunciation completely. You may say it's easier because """European""" and stuff. Another example is French which is so fucking hard to pronounce for Russian that I fucking dropped it after a year of trying, but other people learn it without retarded artifacts like japs do, what's their problem?

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>>77444864
Because they are Japs

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>>77444864
because we are smart(゜-゜)

日本のこと気にしすぎたろチョン
糞スレ立てんな

>>77445117
t.怒り狂った哀れで愚かで馬鹿なネット右翼

>>77444864
iirc Japanese is quite limited phonetically and consists of quite short syllables called "mora". Japanese spout moras at high speed.

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>>77444864
we also won jjokpari! hahahahahahaha

>>77445138
と哀れチョップが申しております

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>>77445117
jap wwwwwww warota wwwwwwwww

asia is fucking weird

>>77445337
>says a country anyone knows its name
lmao

>>77445373
nigga I ain't saying my country is any better, but I don't give a fuck if anyone knows its name or not

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>>77445117
not as bad as insecure netouyos

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Korean girl ㅋㅋㅋ

Cawfee?

>>77445425
covfefe

>>77445425
gween tee

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>>77445413
jap wwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>77444864
All-Nationz data mining thread. Please disregard OP he is mentally insane.

>>77445413
kek, you could swap half of them and I wouldn't even notice.

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>>77445677
>says retarded pig

>>77445727
Wtf is goin on the webm?

Japs eat live frog

Japanese phonetics combined a consonant and a vowel in most cases, it's less flexible. When you come across something like mcdonalds, they can pronounce the sound "c" and "d" but when you put them together their brain is used to the consonant+vowel thing and they automatically shove in an extra sound in between.

>>77446092
And you guys drink feces wine (똥술)

>>77446418
Although the existence of feces wine is unheard of by the majority of contemporary Korean population, Japanese media have promoted the drinking of feces wine as culture of Korea.

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>>77446465
you gooks are so dumb that you let some japs trick you into drinking shit?

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>>77446465
Sure think Kim. You can drink whatever you like, just stay away from my dog.

dorifto

>>77446418
i don't want to necessarily argue for korea but i got to say that is one retarded nettouyo meme

there's no substantial awareness of feces wine in korea and if you want to look back to history you really have to be aware that literally all east asians used to drink wines made out of shit for health until modern ages

even japan in edo age used actual shit as a kind of medicine and the usage was written on the book published by the government but disgusting weeaboo dumbfucks like you believe everything they say to be true and it makes me sick

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>>77446177
This. Japanese phonetics clash extremely with english phonetics too. The whole world struggle with the "th" sound in english because it's not native to their language, it's the same thing applied to a lot of others sounds.

There's also the fact that, much like americans or other very culturally imposing countries, they tend to appropriate loan words at their sauce. So instead of borrowing "McDonald's", they just use the japanese equivalent, makudonarudo, since it's not worth the effort (and can frankly be considered snooty) to pronounce correctly

>>77444864
the → deo

mcdonalds → makddonaldeu

coffee → ceopi

france → peurangseu

start → seutateu

burning → beoning

world → woldeu

people → pipeul

thank you → ddaengkyu

time → taim


same thing goes with korean english

check yourself before wreck yourself

>>77444864
why dont japs learn a language with vowel ends like romance languages? it would fit them much better

>>77446092
France?

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>>77447394

>>77446872
We(russians) can make selfmade alchocol from anything from chicken shit to glue for wood.

бaмп

>>77446418
t. takamoto

>>77447128
네 다음 프록시 jap

>>77447128
the → зe

mcdonalds → Maкдoнaльдc

coffee → кoфe

france → фpaнc

start → cтapт

burning → бёpнинг

world → вopлд

people → пипл

thank you → зeнк ю

time → тaйм

>>77447633
you also can make alchole?

the → ze

mcdonalds → makdonald

coffee → kofi

france → frãnc

start → start

burning → borning

world → word

people → peephole

radio → radio

hello → hello

thank you → tenk you

time → taime

>>77447128
일뽕 오타쿠 새끼 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

>>77448344
yeah, I can, but I don't make it. Production selfmade akcohol is available in Russia.

>>77444864
It's because japanese brain can't think in individual letters but only in syllables. In order to avoid a total brain melt down japanese brain has to change words to fit the pattern which leads to weird results.

>Tequila -> Te - Ki - La
This is fine

>Card -> Ka (okay) - r (Error) - d (Error)
R gets changed to Ru
D gets changed to Do
>Card -> Karudo!

>>77448566
>>Card -> Karudo!
Card is kardo

Tequila is te-kee-la

>>77444864
Whereas Koreans are too retarded to distinguish z from j, like zoo and jew sound the same for them.
f and p are also impossible for them to tell apart like coffee and copy.

Also Koreans can't understand the concept of stressed vowels.
Which is why they always sound whiny and bitchy.

>>77444864
the → ザ→ za
mcdonalds →マクドナルド→ makudonarudo
coffee → コーヒー → ko-hi-

>>77448730
Nooo, that's not right.
Just to be clear, I'm talking about pronunciation here, not writing.

Maybe some Japs say "Kado" and just leave out the R. That's also a workaround to the problem. I haven't figured out yet when the japanese brain decides to go with this strategy over the one I mentioned before.

>>77444864
Makudonarudo was adopted as the official Japanese interpretation of Mcdonald's because the first president of the Japanese burger chain branch thought it had to be rhythmical to pronounce to gain mass popularity via TV commercials.

Makudo + Narudo is working as sort of a poetic rhyme in Japanese.
Other executive board member suggested names like "マクダーナル(Macdarnal)" and ミクドナル(Micdonal) but they were turned down.

>>77449033
We have lengthened vowels so Car never turns into Caru

>>77445053

You don´t do it, the normies do a lot of memes with the russian acent.

>>77445038
Japanese and spanish are similiar phonetically the only thing that they lack is the l/r difference and yet we aren't as bad as them

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>>77444864
>radio → razio
>z

>>77449033
>lemme tell you about your country
Japanese has long vowels , and they use that to imitate the english "r" quite often.
Sister ends with a long "a" for example. They don't write shisutaru, but shistuta~. They rely much more on sounds than on specific letters.
In your example, It's Ka~do. "Card" only has two syllables, not 3.

>>77444864
Everyone knows Japs are universally terrible at English, even educated ones, but do they at least speak another foreign language well? What about Chinese or Korean? Or are Japs the Americans of Asia who only know their own language and nothing else?

>>77449519
>>77449199
I didn't mean to say otherwise. My point is that there is no (western) R sound in the word. (or that Asian L-R-mix-sound).
Yes, they get the point across by pronouncing the A differently, but there is still no R sound.

>>77444864
You retard, these are English words converted to Japanese phonology, you likely have them too. They are loan words, before that, primary source of new loanwords was from China. Most words in Japanese are Chinese or European words converted to Japanese. They are not mispronunciations, they are the words fitted to the sounds and rhythm present in the language.

>>77448954
>Whereas Koreans are too retarded to distinguish z from j, like zoo and jew sound the same for them. f and p are also impossible for them to tell apart like coffee and copy.

>Also Koreans can't understand the concept of stressed vowels. Which is why they always sound whiny and bitchy.
proof? i distinguish z, j, f, and p.

i am not a retatdrd jap like you

>>77454260
t. takamoto in australia

>>77450567
you are right. most japs cannot speak any foreign language. they only know japanese

>>77454410
This is a good example that people can't recognize words made by an uneducated idiot as a bunter or joke.

>>77455076
japs are cockroaches

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>>77448354
the --> DAS

mcdonalds --> KEINKRAUTNICHTGUT

coffee --> KAFFEEH

france --> UNTERWERFUNG

start --> STARRRRRT

burning --> BRRENNN JUDE

world --> RRREICH

people --> UNTERMENSCHEN

radio --> NACHRRRICHTENEMPFÄNGERRR

hello --> HI

thank you --> FICK DICH

time --> NEIN

>>77448344
NoSome Turkish tribes here used to make it in the past.

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ЁКATTA

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MУШИ-MУШИ?
ЁБA ДECУ.

>>77455632
>german poster uploading nazi symbol

this is legal under merkel regime? i thought using nazi symbol in germany is illegal under merkel regime

>>77445373
your english is shit

I really think it's due to their "educayshuun"

From what I've heard, jap english teachers don't even bother TRYING to exlain the correct pronounciation to their alumni, instead they use their retarded explanations with syllables or some shit like that. I've heard many japs with proper english, but they were studying in Universities or shit like that, mostly.

They're not English words, but Japanese words of English origin.

I have to agree English education in Japan is a horseshit though.

>>77444864
it's cute

>>77456359
in the first place, It is impossible for ordinary elementary school teacher to teach how to speak English, which is completely different from Japanese

The - Te
McDonald's - mäkktoonalds
Coffee - Kaffii
France - Fräänts
Start - Staat
Burning - Pööning (also means attic)
World - Vööld
People - Piipel
Radio - Reidjo
Hello - Hellou
Thank you - Täänk juu
Time - Taim (plant)

>>77456145
i am korean fucking dumb slavshit

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>>77457299
yes, you're a dog eater and a chink, your English is as terrible as a Japenese person's. The difference is that they don't eat dogs and that they fucked your women to death. They are a giant economy and you tinker with some electronics. You're a shithole mate led by a shaman. You're not a rich country get it out of your head.

>>77444864
Because their schools teach them English with fuckin' katakana, so they distort the pronunciation to fit their syllabary

>>77457656
No, I'm not a Jap, I just fucking hate your WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU attitude

>>77456938
>in the first place, It is impossible for ordinary elementary school teacher to teach how to speak English, which is completely different from Japanese


lmao your teachers also speak broken english?

>>77456938
I'm not talking bout elementary schools, the same goes for middle and high schools, even some universities fail to teach japs any english on a level on which you can hold a short conversation with an english speaker.

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>>77445053
>«French which is so fucking hard to pronounce for Russian that I fucking dropped it after a year of trying,»
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_French

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Don't feed gooks

>>77457829
jebem ti mater mongoloidno

>>77457775
Stop pretending you're a God compared to him, it's not like yours is much better than his. And I'm pretty sure both of you will sperg and freeze during a conversation

>>77457880
Are you Japanese?

>>77454711
these explanations are the most accurate ones to reality and are not based on memes. >>77454260
>>77457569

>>77444864
I don't remember Park Ji-Sung sounding very English in his first few years at Man. United.

>>77458058
Are you Japanese?

>>77445879
The average American woman struggling to eat a Brussel sprout

>>77458194
no, but I have an uncle who taught English in Nihon and Taiwan.
Just look at their characters on Wikipedia and the loanwords from eng. correspond to the closest ones from Japanese.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katakana#Script

>>77457819
>middle
the same level as in elementary school

>high schools
better than the middle school in most cases.
but they tend to teach only English grammar just for university entrance tests.

>universities
it depends on what you major in.
if students selecting humanities as main subject, you can expect them of average English skill to some extent.

while most of Students majoring in science or mathematics can't speak English as well as them, but still better than average people.

>>77458362
speak irish language if you are true irish

>>77458382
>while most of Students majoring in science or mathematics can't speak English as well as them


why?

>>77455632
>"hello" is not "Heil [insert surname of current chancellor]"