>Spain occupies two ciies in Africa it's not even islands

nice meme but those cities belonged to us even befor morocco existed

thanks for trying

>>77390400

Lawful Spanish clay.

>>77390495
fake and gay

who gives a shit?

if they had a big problem with it they'd long revolt and take back their independence.


clearly spain is treating their bitch right

>>77390806
>>77390495
*belonged to Portugal

>>77390495
Morocco ezisted before spaim tho

>>77390937

portugal is spanish clay therefor ceuta and melilla too

>>77390495
this

fuck carthage

>>77390400
That would mean that we are literally south american according to your logic you cretinous twat.

>>77390400
those cities were created by spain and populated by spaniards a shitton of centuries ago, evolved separately from the rest of africa even before morocco came to existence

if you give it to morocco the only thing you'll cause is a genocide against the native populations

anyway, as a catalonian, i propose that they vote in a referendum if they want to remain in spain or be given to morocco

>>77390957
Proofs?

>>77391045
Wilders wanted to sell our Carribean Islands to the highest bidder because they are more trouble than they are worth lol.

>>77391109

>>77391045
Morocco existed when idrissis got independence from abbasids. At that time inberia was just composed of umad andalus and small iberian catholic states. No spain or portugal existed

>>77391197
thats Mauretania, not Morroco.
the only reason Morocco is independent nowadays is that NATO and the CIA wanted a puppet state in case the commies of Algeria did something during the cold war.

>>77391197
then... it was NOT morocco either.

>inb4 it was but with different name


tired of amemericans and their history lessons, it's not our fault you're so young.

>>77390495
how is life there?

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>>77391197

>>77391045
>populated by spaniards
They're too far gone now, anon. Nowadays Ceuta and Melilla are about 50% Arab/Berber, 70% among the younger generation. Over 20% of its population was born in Morocco and Islamic parties are getting 25% of the vote there.

Spaniards are fleeing the enclaves. They've gone to shit in the last 20 or 30 years. They're just an entry point for illegals and radical muslims.

Just let them die already.

>>77391619
shit, see above

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>>77391576
Lol its Morocco go read some history.
>>77391579
How is this not fucking Morocco

>>77391619

as far as I know it's a living hell, all natives live mostly of contraband and selling stolen shit to morocco.

>>77391715

that's not morocco, that's different kingdoms that existed in the same territory.

damn, don't know if you're really dense or just a troll.

>>77391045
>anyway, as a catalonian, i propose that they vote in a referendum if they want to remain in spain or be given to morocco
típico

>>77391911
Lol there is a diffrence between dynasties and kingdoms. Morroco was ruled by all kind of dynasties

>>77391715
Because the Almoravid, Marinid etc dynasties weren't the modern kingdom of Morocco? If you count the Idrisids as Morocco, then you should count the Visigoths as Spain. Ceuta and Melilla were part of that state.

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>>77391664
>They're just an entry point for illegals and radical muslims.
This is the problem Western society faces, mostly Europe. The Mediterranean should be militarized because MENA/Africa have an irresponsible birthrate that exceeds the capacity of their native homelands. I don't hate MENA/Africans, in fact I wish them the best. But if they're exceeding their environment, they need to enact policies that cut down birthrate to at least 2 per couple, much like China did.

The EU should rally behind Spain, Italy, and Greece in preventing illegal immigration from the south. For this, I am sure.

>>77391175
>Wilders wanted to sell our Carribean Islands to the highest bidder

Didn't we end up buying some after WWII?

>>77392006
Visgoths were small states tho in general see this also
>>77391985

>>77392025
>The EU should rally behind Spain, Italy, and Greece in preventing illegal immigration from the south. For this, I am sure.

Italy doesn't seem to mind. They're welcoming the immigrants, they're just upset that they have to actually keep them instead of sending them north to Germany.

>>77391985

oh god... so you're dense...

>>77390400
Spain is in Africa as well, Mohammed, you should know.

>>77392124
You are the dense one m8. Alawite morocco isnt the only moroccan kingdom. Thats like removing the history of the french kingdoms. Any dynasty in the maghreb aqsa and as westerns call it Morocco is moroccan

>>77392340

wow... so this is what happens when you learn history by playing civilisation, not impressed 2bh.

>>77392471
Im tunisian and studied this shit in middle and high school m8 . Limiting Morocco to its alawite history only is super ignorant m8 .Just admit it

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>>77390400
You are free to try again, moor.

>>77392705

I admit you have no fucking clue of what you're talking about.

now you admit you're a troll, do it.

>>77392705
>tunisian education

Btw, is there any fucking white american left on this board? Even tunisians are behind their flag.

>>77392705
>>77391985
>Lol there is a diffrence between dynasties and kingdoms. Morroco was ruled by all kind of dynasties
>>77391197
>At that time inberia was just composed of umad andalus and small iberian catholic states. No spain or portugal existed

>>77390400
and they have to cheek to ask for gibraltar back

>>77390400
t. MOORoccan

>>77392025
You know thst MENAs birthrates are almost europe tier and sinking,right?

>>77392774
>>77392789
so when did morroco start existing in your opinion
>>77392797
those catholic states united together and formed spain and that was like after 100s of years meanwhile morocco was always pretty united since the 800s and was in general formed of a big state and small micro states which always got assimilated in the end just like the rif region in the modern history of morocco

According to the Spaniards itt : Bourbon spain and hasburg Spain are totally different countries and one of them can't be considered as spain.

>>77392898
In terms of a population rate MENA immigrants aren't worrisome. But in a terrorism perspective, they are. 2nd and 3rd generation MENA immigrants are the most likely to commit terrorism, and run over French and British civilians in trucks.

That is not acceptable. They should be kept out.

>>77392989
If Morocco's foundation dates back to the Idrisids in the 8th century, then Spain's dates back to the Visigoths in the 5th century. There is no legitimate reason why Ceuta and Melilla should not be Spanish land.

>>77393103
Visgoths spoke german and were arian christians ; spaniards arent . while all moroccan dynasties after islam spoke amazigh and arabic and were muslim just like modern alawite morocco . check m8 spaniards

>>77393362
by German i meant a Germanic langue (gothic) and not modern German ofc

>>77392063
The Virgin Islands were danish I think. And I thought we bought those earlier

>>77393362
visigoths didn't speak german, they spent two centuries in the eastern part of the empire before moving to the west and there were several sects back then, including movements like priscillianism

>>77393362
The Visigoths were pretty much assimilated by the Hispano-Romans. Recarred converted to Catholicism in 587 and so did the rest of the Visigothic nobility along with him.

>>77390991
>portugal is spanish clay therefor ceuta and melilla too
We are Hispanic not Spaniards

>>77394774
zitto animale, you are like another spanish region

>>77394831
No , no senor...

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>>77394860
portugal is rightful galician clay

>>77392773
Eso no se puede considerar una victoria, hasta ese momento la isla era española, tras ese conflicto se acordó que fuera tierra de nadie, un triunfo para marruecos.

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