>our jets >our tanks >our jeeps >our guns >our

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>our jets
>our tanks
>our jeeps
>our guns
>our armor
>our drones
>our nightvision
>our radar
>our helicopters
>our artillery
>our satellites
>our computers
>our techniques
>our training programs
Are superior to american counterparts.

>>76876107
true, but our health care is better than yours

>>76876139
>poverty ramp
>superior to catapult
Although, we don't send shit to you so carry on.

>>76876200
The Dutch word for disaster is ramp.

>>76876107

>4th of July
Cause we are at 6th
You should develop some calendars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc9kNeSaIi4

they are armored but fuck our humvees break down all the fucking time especially all the time
t. true knower

>>76876283
I'm just giving you guys time to make big plans for next year. I don't know what it's like to get fireworks around the world.

american tanks use british armour

>>76876200
1 hit from ashm and your catapult is goofed
your shitty planes can't get off
RIP
>b-but muh ciws muh aegis
inferior to russian counterparts and non effective.

>>76876352
The British navy use Dutch radar. The JSF as well.

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>>76876352
It would be defeated by current ATGM/RPG generation produced in russia easily
why do you even bother with armor anymore?

>>76876434
cool

>>76876377
lol you're sitting at the fence right now, my man. The point of this thread isn't about which is better, it's about coming together through the shit we share.

>>76876139
so now you just need an economy on par with us and the west might actually listen to you

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>>76876485
maybe you share shit with europeans but not with us

>>76876523
Our economy is based on natural resources while your based on some nigger giving 20$ to prostitute so she could buy new iphone.
Guess which country will win.

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>>76876107
Plz sell more

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>>76876662

>not buying an osprey

>>76876589
the one that doesn't reduce everything to gross simplifications?

>>76876691
>literally falling out of the sky while the rotor tilts
wew

>>76876589
how about the one that people actually want to visit and isn't depressing?

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>>76876758
You'd rather go back to using the old standard?

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Have cell phones been weaponized?

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>>76876589
haha he actually thinks his country is on par with the US. How adorable

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>>76876796
>Russia couldn't singlehandedly-destroy USA in a week
TOP KEK AMERICAN PIG SHIT!!! Oh believe you me, us Russians are ITCHING for a war with USA. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of American soil that has running water, electricity, or petrol that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the chechens and other mongrel races first) would swoop in, burning your fat women, and killing EVERY American pig shit they see. When Russia's done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it

I'd love to train with Russians
I think it'd be cool as fuck to compare small arms and medium machine guns and anti-tank missile systems with them

>>76876691
You already show them to our navy, they seem a bit interested, but air force would rather replace the CH47s with these >>76876793
But who knows

>>76876898
Ahahah you will cry as little baby when superior russian tech destroy your western shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg1PnTrLJr4

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>>76876961
Nah man, I'd love to learn about what you guys use and how it's different form ours and what tactics you use to employ them
To compare

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>>76877099
Ok briefly:
Best assault rifle for war not operating is AK74M
Best LMG is PKM/PKP
Best manpad is Verba
Best ATGM is Kornet
Best helmet is 6B47
Russian plate armor has best protection classification (aka ГOCT)
Best HMG is KORD/Utes
Best optic is american
end of story

>>76877284
What is that thing there
And our LMG is almost never used anymore
I know like two guys in my platoon who have them issued to them and they never get used

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>>76877339
They just realized that PKM exist

>>76876139
Russia doesn't even have a shipyard currently big enough to build this ship.

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>>76877442
I like our medium machine gun bro
Belgium did a great job creating the 240

Also our .50 works like a charm but I don't know what yours are like so I won't speak against them
They look sick

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>>76876200
Ramps are NOT for bullying.

>>76876139

I have no intention of bullying Russia, but this project is effectively dead in the water considering the 33% budget cut.

>>76877584
It's clearly written that ship will be built in severodvinsk new shipyard

>>76876434
We do use the Type 997 Artisan too which is made by BAE.

we payed for it so you can suck my big hung aryan dick

do you kiss the feet of the grocery store owner after a meal?

>>76877618
The ramps make sense to me, why do people give you shit over them?

>>76877694
Well let us know when this happens, because the Russian navy isn't being prioritised right now and any talk of a new carrier is a long way off. You're putting most of your resources into your ground units and army.

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>>76877753
Just jealousy m8. They see that really ramps are the future, along with twin islands.

>>76877605
did you take this pic

>>76877965
Yeah, you know how 4chan makes things turn sideways
It was about a month back or so tho

>>76878040
where was it?

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haw can mrap compete

>>76878086
Camp Pendleton, CA
going up to a range

>>76878134
how much do you get paid as an average soldier?
I don't know your ranks in the US earth army, so just what someone who isn't an officer would get

>>76878233
>earth army
land force*

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>>76878102
>not having a new family of armoured vehicles named after greek mythology

>>76877753

Because memes are cheap and actual discussion is hard.

>>76877800
>You're putting most of your resources into your ground units and army.
Well, it would be more accurate to say nuclear forces.

>>76877694

It probably won't happen comrade. There's no budget for it.

>>76878288
>How to waste money: the army project

>>76876442
Just because your tanks have no armor doesnt mean its a good idea Serigei...

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>>76878366
Say that to my face and not online and see what happens.

>>76878233
Not him, but we start at about 1500 per month plus some other allowances.
After 2 years you should be around $2000 per month

>>76878413

Come back to me when the MoD and the army know what they actually want.

>>76877284
The Kord is literally the only valid claim here

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>>76877856
Taken today on sea trials.

>>76878505
Neat

>>76878505
you might like this, with the qt tugboats going in fastmotion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC1UDxjUs9A

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>>76878505

One year away from heading to America for her fixed wing flight trials.

>>76878288
>Not having a few lines of military tech/ammo named after flowers,trees and fruits
>9M27C Apricot
>T-90 IR Agave
>T-80 Birch
>2S1 Dianthus
>2S3 Acacia
>2S5 Hyacinth
>2S8 Aster
>9K37 Beech
>GP30 Punica
>Project 667A Pear
>T-72 Autoloader Corn
.RT-2PM2 cottonwood
etc.

>>76878395
Our tanks were better armored from 1940s until M1 TUSK came out.

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>>76878808
>Hyacinth

>>76878233
I'm getting 1200/m as a PFC of Marines

>>76878846
Just no. They were better in the 60's and 70's. After that you lost the edge.

>>76879377
Hmm. I make around 1800 USD after taxes as a corpral here in Sweden.

>>76879417
Everything i listed is true
also if you claim that PKM isn't best LMG and 6B47 isn't best helmet you're delusional.
Even most furious fatniks on /k/ can't deny it

>>76879516
God damn
What's your job.. Corporal ;)

>>76879516
Holy shit
do you have like 50% taxes?

How do you guys know all this shit? Is everybody on /int/ also a /k/ommando?

>>76876877
You couldn't take Germany in total war with no nuclear options. Your economy is a joke.

>>76879548
The bipod of the PKM is terrible, sure the gun is light but the barrel cant take that many rounds. As a GMPG its shit. As a light SAW its decent.

6B47 is allright I guess.

>>76879569
I do... various stuff. But it involves a lot of travel, around 800 km/week isnt uncommon, and I usually work alone.

>>76879599
We have around 30% incometax, so before taxes I make around 2200 USD

>>76876107
Our cartels do. Thank you, American war machine.

>>76879724
Well, some of us are. And some just work in our respective nations army

>>76879548
PKM is nice if you have asbest gloves when you move it. No way to mount optics. Overrated. I'd rather take a Negev.

>>76879780
Interesting
I'm an 0352, your job sounds better than mine
Are you active duty or that home reserves thing

>>76879725
Hmm
we still did it with little to no help from allies.
>#1 military on continent
>3rd reich has like 100 mil heavily centralized people vs 170 mil rural soviet
>lost

>>76879847
He means nowadays man
And I personally think he's wrong but there's truth to what he's saying

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>>76879780
>The bipod of the PKM is terrible
It was fixed in PKP

>>76879724

Browse both /k/ and half a dozen other forums on navy stuff.

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>>76879786
You guys get a nice paint job at least

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>>76879830
>No way to mount optics
No way to mount western railed optics

>>76879834
0352 sounds kinda fun tho. Do you do Javelins or TOWs? Im active btw

>>76879847
>little to no
Nikita Krustjev himself said that the USSR could never had made it without the lend lease. Stalin asked the allies several times to open a second front on germany. It was never "little to no help"

>>76879886
Oh. I have only handled the PKM. Only took you 50 years to fix that.

>>76879951
We "use" both
As in we almost never get to shoot them in garrison
Very expensive and the Army gets most of them, we get turned instead into anti-tankmen mixed with machine gunners/HMMWV operators

>>76879909
I don't understand how our army and police buy equipment, helicopters mainly. They buy them from everywhere, Israel, Russia, America, France, you name it. They probably look at them and think "hey, this looks cool, let's buy it", without any further thought.

>>76879724
/k/ is a shitty board.
I served abroad.

>>76880032
I see. Well we rarely shoot ours either. This year was the first time in like 10 years we fired a live (non-training) TOW. And by "we" I mean in the entire Swedish military. We do however have them mounted on really funky tracked vehicles (google pvrbbv 2061 if you want to)

How are you organized?

>>76880054
It used to be "hey its cheap lets buy it"
Now its different, most likely there will be only american and European stuff

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>>76880185
2063 it was, not 2061

>>76880246
Some cocaine nigger won't be able to steal a whole helicopter, but buying new rifles or small, sensible things like that would probably just end up with the cartel. Maybe it's like that?

>>76879780
>6B47 is allright I guess.
It's really good
most of modern helmets protect from shrapnel while 6b47 protect from 9x19 and 7.62x25 bullets from 4+ m

>>76880364
Id imagine you would have quite some braindamage from the stopping powa tho.

But if it saves you its nice. Are they heavy?

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>>76880185
That thing is quite interesting

And I'm in my Battalion's Weapons company
In our co. we've got the POGs (headquarters n service) platoon, 81mm mortar platoon, a scout sniper platoon, and for some reason two CAAT platoons (Blue & Red) which I'm in blue
We've got about 30 some guys organized into 7-9 humvees with about half Saber trucks and half Gun trucks with our HMGs
We are made for anti armor ops but obviously that can't be done too often so we are turned into a mounted support unit for crunchies, fast patrols and securing areas, and simple recon/scouting missions given our speed and optic ability

It's really shitty

>>76880331
Well there is no need to buy any infantry equipment or light shit since we make all of that ourselves
Also, even with all the smuggled weapons those shit narcos get whats the point if they have no training at all

>>76876139
When is the Russian pride barbecue holiday? Trump being the president means we're allowed to be barbecue buddies now.

>>76880419
1 kg
few grams lighter than mich

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>>76880364
>>76880468
Looks tasty

>>76880445
That sounds pretty bad infact. Most of our battalions has one HQ/Mortar company, with the HQ stuff + 120mm mortars. They travel in whatever is available, usually with no protection and nothing heavier than FN MAGs.

Then there is a separate AT company?m, with the 2063s and 3 infantry companys + CSS.

>>76880445
We're hosting like 2000 paratroopers of yours this month. 103rd or something.
Shits gonna be fun.

>>76880550
Thats not bad infact.

>>76880621
Probably the fucking army. They get all the cool euro training events, lucky faggots
The only Marines I know of is a company plus sized group that did shit in Norway, Finland, and Romania for a little bit then left
>>76880600
So you have those 5 companies in your Battalion? Same with us
3 Line companies, Headquarters, and Wpns
The line companies have a little weapons platoon as well that hosts a bunch of 240's, and a few SMAWs and a couple 60mm mortars, with the rest as rifle platoons with 90% M4s and m27 IARs

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>>76880653
There are heavier helmets such as "Altyn" or full titanum "Sfera(3kg)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vsfX73nhGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwl-n94JEJs

>>76880764
We've got constant marine presence at Novo Selo. About a batallion size iirc. Its a fairly shitty place though, I wouldnt be jealous.

>>76880849
Better than always going to the fucking Orient
It could be Bulgaria's worst gypsy ridden shithole and I'd still be jealous
Training would be cooler and the liberty there would be amazing

>>76880891
Well, compared to the USA we are a small country. Even the shittiest places arent that far from the good ones. Their libbo should be good, yeah, the seaside is about 150km away. 2hrs drive at most.

>>76880764
Yep, pretty similar here. Our infantry companys alson has a weapons platoon. They used to be equipped with RBS 56 BILL 2 ATGMs, but now has NLAWs, FN MAGs, AT-4s and Carl Gustavs. Regular platoons has AK5s, M249s, Carl Gustavs and At-4s. Each squad has AT-4s, while the Carl Gustavs are platoon level

Pretty much every platoon in our army have AT-4s, we have allways had a focus on having many AT-weapons as the Soviets allways had many tanks.

>>76880983
Yeah I'd literally kill somebody to switch places
I'm going on a unit deployment program (UDP) to Japan and with a slight chance for SK and Thailand for half a year, it'll just be like being stationed there instead but with even more constant training

I'd much rather do that pretty much anywhere else, especially Bulgaria/Balkan countries

>>76876107
Yes, but they are all mostly used by Americans, which are dumb as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqYyfX2oRik

Or, as they say here, god gives hazelnuts to those without teeth.

>>76881014
>M249s
Fuck those things aren't the greatest but damn they have a fucking high fire rate
Hold on my own Cpl is telling me to do smthin

>>76881155
They are fun as fuck to shoot, but man I hate running around with a hot barrel on my back.

>>76880081

Not wrong.

>>76881065
I dunno much about your Army/Marine deployments here cause im AF and we rarely work with you guys. But we do get 2-3 different AF units here every year, some even repeatedly.
So far i have pretty good impressions, both on professional and personal level.

>>76881348
>Bulgarian Air Force

Soo... when are you buying Gripens

>>76881348
Fuck
Are you that guy that was on /balk/ like 11 months ago
I remember talking to you once

>>76881348
By the way, do you still use MiG-21s?

>>76881406
That made the news in Sweden too, huh? Basically the PM is fucking with the Prez (former chief of the AF) for "meddling in the process of choosing a new jet fighter". So, theres going to be something like a senate committee to investigate the whole affair.
I wouldnt hold my breath.

>>76881440
Yep, same one.

>>76881507
Nope, retired them to deep reserve last year. I think the Romanians and their Lancers are the last in the EU to keep the 21.

>>76881255
Have you shot a 240B? Do y'all have any?
What medium machine guns do y'all use
.50s shoot beautifully as well and even our Mk. 19s aren't half bad

>>76881530
Yeah, it was news here too, after all we make them

>>76881580
Oh, okay. But you still run 29s?

>>76881589
Our mediums is Ksp 58s, wich is a FN MAG variant (so essentially a M240). Yeah I have fired it once, it was fun.

>>76881683
Yep, the 29s have to perform the Air policing mission until we adopt a new jet. And we've been doing that for 10+ years. Its seriously demoralising.

>>76881787
Lol. Call me a shill, but I used to be in the SwAF and I honestly belive that the Gripen C/D would be pretty good for a country like you.

>>76881580
You probably don't remember the name Yames
But hey man
>>76881683
Do you personally think Sweden would ever be able to successfully invade Finland?
Interested, know it wouldn't happen

>>76881858
Tell it to the people in ties. I've talked to Hungarian pilots and they are pretty happy with the Gripen.
But no, I have to listen to the former president go on talk shows and explain how errybody around us uses F-16 so we have to buy F-16 3rd hand from Portugal. And then I have to listen to "experts" on the news explaining how the Gripen has no actual combat experience unlike the F-16. And other bullshit like that.
I seriously had to delete an allcaps tirade.

>>76882143
122 EFS? Or that A-10 squadron from last year?

>>76882247
Hm
No I talked to you on /balk/ once or twice before I went to boot camp just last year

>>76882143
Right now Finland would beat us any day of the month, except in the air. During the cold war not so much.

>>76882149
That sounds pretty terrible. Sure, it has only been in Libya while the F-16 has been everywhere. But combat tested doesnt mean that its better.

Also 3rd hand means less flighthours left on the frames and more maintanance (the F-16 is still about 60% more expensive to fly per hour)

>>76882306
Oh I remember that but I dont remember the name. Just thought its somebody I met here IRL.
Hows the service going?

American soldiers use Swiss sidearms

>>76876200

Yes, it is.

Catapults add nothing but cost and a point of failure to a carriers design. One bad landing can damage the system and now you can't launch planes. One deck impact in battle can damage the system and now you can't launch planes.

Seriously, there are a million ways American carriers are superior to others from capacity, to maneuverability to power generation and yet you dumb niggers go on and on and on and fucking on about a god damn ramp that is nothing but a potential detriment to your battle capability.

>>76882373
Dont they mostly use Italian M9s?

>>76882420
They replaced them with the Sig P320

>>76882407
The F-35C cant be launched fully loaded on a ramp. Also AWACS planes are hard to ramp-launch.

Also, at least US carriers have 4 cats, so if one breaks down you still have 3.

>>76882373
Marines still use M9 bers
>>76882358
It's awful man, hate every minute of it

Friends are cool, though
>>76882339
You guys had an impressive military back then, did you not

>>76882339
Even the F-16 would be a good upgrade over our '89 Fulcrums. But a jet is not a washing machine, you cant replace it every 5 years. We need something with future possibilites for upgrades and the Eurofighter is far too expensive. Every government is only focused on its own 4 years term though.

>>76882461
You learn something every day I guess

>>76882511
Roughly one million troops (out of a population of 8 million).

The worlds 4th largest air force.

A fighter jet network system in the 80's that still beats the today uesd Nato Link 16.

Yeah, we had quite some stuff, and pretty much everything was locally produced.

>>76882614
Anything would be better than the MiG-29s, wich cant be cheap to run by now. And as you say, you want something that will last.

>>76882511
Honestly, most of my friends that went mech infantry or artillery say the same. I dunno how they treat you guys out there, but it apparently takes a special kind of person to enjoy grunt life.
Keep your head up, your contracts aint that long. You'll make it.

>>76882629
The Army replaced several so far, USMC still uses all M9s
Not that we ever use them anyways

>>76882764
Thanks bro, I've got another >3 years till I'm out but damn I can't wait til my EAS

>>76876107
I got a gf on 4th of july and i really needed a gf.
I think thats the only reason i feel good about a 4th of july.
I also like the movie independence day, but since i realized it was a movie about a stereotypical KIKE KIKE KIKE and a nigger saving the world, i cant see it the same way ever again.
If my gf turns out to be a turd, it will be all your fault.
And i dont give a shit what you have, im coming for you

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Same goes for some your shit, tons of european parts and tech.

>>76883947
everyone can be an american.
yet no american can be a non american ever again

>>76883947
Of course the F-35 is multinational effort, with the UK in particular putting in over $2billion worth into the project and getting back the right to use our technology as well as parts of the plane to be built here sustaining British jobs.

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>>76883947
Kinda like """"""""""Brazilian"""""""""" aircraft which are made with 100% foreign parts.

>>76884486
Nice looking plane though.

>>76884005
>>76884096

Everything uses parts from somewhere nowadays. Globalism ftw.

>>76884486

Yes, why do you people like to hate on it?

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>>76884550

Pls buy.