I graduated from school a few days ago and I need to apply to

I picked mine out of a hat.

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跟我学
Study Chinese

>>76826739
Its useless

>>76826765
you're useless

>>76826810
Name me three(3) benefits

>>76826680
What areas do you excel at?

university is a scam

>>76826866
money, women, respect

study refugee and asylum management

it'll come in handy over there

>>76827074
Biology,German,Englich,History and a bit Chemistry

>>76827228
*English

>>76827228

>doesn't have one particular interest or area he excels at

looks like you have what it takes to get a degree in business administration!

>>76827246
What kinda jobs can I attend with this?

Roll a dice

>>76827296
Bump

>>76827246
hits too close to home tbqh

>>76826680
>How did you guys in your countries manage this?

I got pigeonhole'd into a subject that's way above my skill level and I got cucked hard.

just pick whatever thing that will guarantee to land you a respectable job best.

>>76826680
I fucked around for a few years then picked a subject I was ok at in highschool. I don't have much passion for it, I just needed some kind of direction.

>>76826680
Let your parents decide it for you

>>76828308
They tell me to take whatever I want :/

>>76828308
ignore this idiot, you will regret this for the rest of your life if it doesn't work out.

OP is underaged.

sage

I tried two different programmes and realized what I really liked to do when I picked my minor. On the other hand now I can't change it to my major because the system favors first timers.

>>76827118
You should add an additional clause.
**Only for those that are powerful to begin with.

>>76826680
don't know how it is for germany but jobs are really hard to come by here with just a straight undergrad degree unless you did a professional program. here, all the humanities/social science students who only did a bachelors are working dead end jobs without healthy prospects imo.

decide between a) how likely it will get you a good life/job and b) how well do you enjoy it. if you find something that hits both, go for it, but if a definite no for either of these do not go for it.

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>>76828403
No

>>76828453
Ok, go waste your time learning Chinese then.

>>76827296
basically most desk jobs, the good thing is that it's easy as fuck to ace the whole degree but the down side is that everyone and their dog has a degree in BA. If you are any good at pulling roasties you will also be swimming in them as (from personal experience) 70% of the students who do BA are women.

also seconding what this guy said >>76828450

>>76828464
>implying i will be wasting my time
I already know Chinese. Go look out for my interests somewhere else.

>>76826680
Do what makes you happy

If you do what makes money but doesn't make you happy it will drive you slowly insane for the rest of your life.

I came to Japan instead of chosing

>>76826680
I didn't. I picked a "good and respected" degree that's actually utter shit and I hate everything about it.
Actually I was just about to leave to register as unemployed, good timing with the thread.

>>76828498
what's the difference between economics and BA?

>>76828618
Nice

>>76828365
Im 19 and turning 20 this octobre

>>76828649

BA is about handwaving stuff such as marketing and leadership. It's essentially same sort of bullshit as social science with different lingo.
Economics is somewhat math heavy theoretical stuff about how markets work. Actually useful in a sense that it has real applications in finance, but I doubt the undergrad stuff goes that far.

>>76828649
Economics requires real knowledge while BA is regurgitating ideas and knowledge that was proven to be useless and impracticable/has no real place in a real work place scenario and passing it off as a real degree.

take BA if you are a middle-of-the-road student and wanted to take it easy because you are too lazy/incapable of doing real degrees.

Idk about germany but you can do a year of military service after highschool here

>>76828756
>>76828757
I think we only have economics undergrad then, still pretty useless

Worked odd jobs for 7 years while playing vidya until I figured out what I wanted to be. Currently in lawschool and loving it.

>>76828831
How old are you?

>>76827228
chemistry/chem eng -> money, respect and you will be content with your life when you're 40 because you're doing something worthwhile and don't look back on a life of moving money around for your little boss above you so that he can make a bit of money for his little boss above him.

>>76827246
or CS
any moron that has no aim can go for the CS meme

>>76828330
NEVER let anyone else do this for you
I know someone who turned down med school for some fucking useless degree at a garbage uni because of her friend

>>76828831
good luck, if you can't get into your local jurisdiction's practicing course and/or pass their practicing exams you will just be another one of the thousands of law students who ended up doing anything but law-related jobs.

>>76828874
I considered biochemistry but im not sure what my job prospects will be or if its too hard or not

>>76828801

The funny thing about degrees is that it doesn't necessarily matter if the program doesn't teach any practical skills or knowledge. When an employer gets a stack of 200 CV's for one job opening, he has no way of knowing for sure which potential employees are good until he hires someone for a while. With imperfect information, he has to rely on signals, and a degree is a good way to imply someone is at least able to jump through hoops compared to someone who doesn't have one.

>>76828921
>my job prospects will be or if its too hard or not
any STEM field has good job prospects because it's not as easy as african american studies. Take aerospace engineering - a lot of grads don't actually work in the aerospace industry but get hired because of the degree in other places, high paying places - like finance.

>>76828921
>but im not sure what my job prospects will be or if its too hard or not

wtf I thought Germany has a good education system, didn't you school told you to talk to your school's advisers?

they can't provide much themselves but they will tell you where to go for useful information, mostly to uni-shows where you can talk to the people involved with the uni and/or your subject who can answer your questions.

>>76829021
You know I always wanted to be a biologist as a kid but after I red how shitty their job perspectives are I just lost confidence in going to study biology. Also keep in mind that im really bad at maths so Im always concerned about the importance of math in any STEM field

>>76829023
We didnt have that much advisers and they always had a limited schedule

>>76828980
yeah but economics is still pretty useless even in that regard since it's basically considered on par with BA or other social science shit

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>>76829141
being bad at maths is a meme
Sit your ass down, pop a 200mg caffeine pill, and work for hours. For every 50 minutes of work, take 10 minutes of stretching, jumping around, not thinking about maths or work at all, just clearing your head. You still have 2 months until school starts, and it's more than enough to unshit yourself at maths. Go to /sci/ and check the sticky for recommended books, then get them from gen.lib.rus.ec or buy physical copies from abebooks(much better since actually spending money will help with motivation), lurk around, ask questions in /sci/sqt/. Nobody is "born" to be bad at maths.

>>76828862
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>>76828902
There's a crazy shortage of lawmen in sweden due to the ever-expanding market and unique system of law, blocking foreign workforce. I was recruited by 4 different firms on my first day at uni.

I would recommend studying something what you enjoy. And something easy.

I switched studies twice.

>>76829344
Kinda jelly. It's the exact opposite here, the market is so oversaturated people fight each other just to find an unpaid internship to pad their CV with. There's zero work for lawyers, especially if you're just a graduate and not a certified barrister yet.

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>>76829344
>ever-expanding market

>>76829283
I know what you mean but im legit bad at math. I attented private tutoring and tried really hard but I couldnt do get anything better than the third-worst grade. I mean I can understand the general concept of a formula but If it comes to aoolying those to tests and tasks then I am just lost. I am good in bioligy and chemistry but they never had much math involved unlike physics.

>>76829445
*biology

>>76829344
Are you afraid that no one might give you a job at this age? I mean if you are competing with younger people who have the same degrees then your potential boss would rather take the younger person right? Thats atleast what my mom told me

>>76829344
aren't you too old for that? Usually law students are required to finish their degree asap, so if you start at 19 you should finish at 24 (5 year long course). Firms would choose young (early 20s) graduates over 30+ ones

>>76826680
Childhood dream really. I was first gonna apply for economical studies because that's what my friends did but I changed my mind in the last second.
Instead I went for History & Archeology and got my Masters in both.
Been working in the field for 6 years now while my friends in the economical market are struggling even to find an accounting job.

>>76829806
How did you find your job and how long did it take? What do you do at your job?

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>>76826680
nice anime bird

>>76829502
>Are you afraid that no one might give you a job at this age? I mean if you are competing with younger people who have the same degrees then your potential boss would rather take the younger person right? Thats atleast what my mom told me

lol

>>76829507
This is wrong on too many accounts to list. Italy's a weird country.

>>76829806
>anedoctal evidence instead of statistics to back up your facts

k

>>76829881
dude it's like this everywhere, firms target younger graduates because they still have time to learn their job, they'll be of use for longer than their older peers, and finally they'll settle for lower wages since it's likely their first job. By your age you should be a lawyer already

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>>76829841
>How did you find your job
I volunteered at different dig sites around Sweden, got a job offer before even finishing my education.
>and how long did it take?
The education? 2 years + 3 years. .

>what do you do at your job?
Well, I dig at different sites around Europe, categorize, document and research the finds we make. We map old settlements and protect historically important sites. Then I return to my employer ( Natural history museum of Stockholm) and work on the findings.
>pic related, how a day normally looks like in the field

>>76829991
Bad news seeing how half my class is older than me and 9 out of 10 don't finish their studies in 5 years. And all those people I know who started late and did fine.

Italy, man. So weird.

>>76829991
The solution is simple. Just lie on your resume.

Major in Mechanical Engineering and minor in computer science.
You should be able to have desk, industry, IT and construction job.

>>76830236
no it's just your country being fairytale land where mediocre people can find a job too. Ask an american how a middle-aged fresh graduate is considered there

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>>76830337
Not too bad, when you consider that our mediocre are on par with your best.

>>76830337
>where mediocre people can find a job too
That's how it should unless you are a shitty third world country..
And age doesn't tell if you are mediocre or not.
I know several people who have multiple educations. My dad is 58 and have a degree in both electrical engineering and geological research. He swapped careers when he was 42.

>>76830435
which one was the second career?

>>76830536
Geological research. He's always been a nerd when it comes to things in that genre so instead of slaving away in a job he didn't enjoy he joined a university and got a new education.
A lot of people do here, all education is free so that's not an obstacle.

>>76830428
picture unrelated, we're talking about law students not the entire economic system

>>76830585
electrical engineering to geological research is a pretty drastic change, did it go well for him career wise after?

>>76826680
Selbes Problem. Habe mich einfach für 4 Studiengänge beworben, werde mich dann im Laufe des Sommers entscheiden welchen Studiengang ich wählen werde, je nach wo ich angenommen werde. Keins davon interessiert mich so wirklich.

>>76830643
Yep he's doing fine. He's working in the field securing, monitoring and documenting cliffs by the coast and alongside roads etc that can cause threats to people.
He's a lot happier these days.

>>76829507
>>76829881
>>76830435

law degrees are undergrad degrees in your cunt?

the average law student starts at age 25-26 and finishes when they 28-32, and a big portion of any class are older adults switching into law.

law isn't even a super-high paying salary here compared to america where starting salary is 150-200k for the big cities.

>>76830721
nice good for him mate, i imagine it can be pretty tough having to start over with your career.
Did he have to start from the bottom or did previous experience help at all

>>76830716
Wollten die alle einen NC? Was für Studiengänge hast du ausgesucht?

>>76829344

>There's a crazy shortage of lawmen

Whenever there are news about a new law school starting up there's tons of people whining that the market is already saturated, I don't know who to believe.

That said, I'm like 2/3 through it and I'm enjoying myself decently, though I don't know which area to really work in when I'm done.

I liked legal history and anything relating to philosophy a lot but I'm really not good or ambitious enough to become a professor.

I had a talk with my dad about a year prior to graduating.
He talked to me about what I'd like to do, what my prospects were, what would get me money.
I figured I liked computers so I got into CS.

Too many young people don't know what they do with their lifes, they keep changing their degrees. Wasting their life.
The reality is you're probably never going to find a job you enjoy all the time. What you want is a job you don't absolutely hate.
Also don't expect university will tech you how to work.

>>76830791
Alle davon sind ohne NC. Ich habe mich für Informatik, Wirtschaftsingenieurwesen, Wirtschaft und Medizintechnik beworben. Du solltest dich langsam beeilen, ich weiß nicht wann bei dir die Frist endet, aber hier endet sie nächste Woche.

>>76830780
Yeah he did struggle in the beginning but he got into it pretty quick.
And he started somewhere in the middle of a Bachelors degree (I think it was, it's called Kandidatsexamen in Swedish) after going through the entry exam. So I think he saved him self 6-8 months maybe.

>>76830747

Law degree is a "program" that takes around ~4-5 years, you need good grades to get in or a good/decent result on a national test kind of thing. I did the latter.

It's not as crazy well paying as in the US I'm sure, and it really isn't worth it to do any ambulance chasing due to damages not being ridiculously well paying.

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>>76829344
>There's a crazy shortage of lawmen
This is complete bullshit, the market for people who studied law are balanced at best in sweden, and projections are it's going to at the very best stay balanced.

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>>76829872
Cute

>>76830944
vast majority of high paying ones are business/corporate law imo though.

160k-200k is starting salary but it doesn't pay off as percentage in those cases. only private practice does that imo.

>>76830944
btw what type of law system do you guys have?

ours is an insanely complicated system where you have to learn thousands if not hundreds of thousands of cases that factor into a decision and cannot just reference actual documents/laws in place.

>>76826680
I studied law for 3 years before fully realizing i hated it

>>76826680
DON'T FALL FOR THE STEM MEME

I REPEAT: DON'T FALL FOR THE STEM MEME

>>76831357

Civil law, so the focus is on legislation. But at least according to my professors in legal history/comparative law, the nordic systems do have a hint of the common law system in them.

We don't mind "patching up" flaws/uncovered areas by judge made decisions as much as say, the germans do.

Basically:

>the codified law says what to do in certain situations and can be somewhat general
>case law clarifies it

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>>76826680
Why not do some unusual trade ? The luxury industry is pretty good.
Watchmaker, Jeweler, high end leather working, Cabinetmaker, knife making, black smithing...
That's if you like to work with your hands (don't worry about being clumsy, we all are at first)
Craftsmanship is pretty cool.

>>76831357
Not him but, you have common law, we have civil law. Which means that while cases may be important to draw the line in between when a law is applicable or not and does have an effect on the law system as a whole, you can still get a pretty good idea of what a piece of legislation means by just looking at the text in the legislation.

>>76831730
because you need to know someone in the industry

>>76830835

I think the issue is that universities offer way too specific degrees for people just out of high school. Even if you are academically inclined it's impossible to articulate what you are interested in if you haven't even heard of something like anthropology, health economics or some spesific branch of engineering. In my opinion universities should just offer very general programs, teach people some basic methodology and intro courses and let them pick their major after a year or two.

>>76832402
In some ways they do, don't they?
I feel like all the CS people have to take classes that are more or less about the same basic things with a few "specialized" courses.
I could go work into many things that aren't precisely what I studied for, because the actual technology in use is something even someone who specialized exactly that would have to learn from close to 0.

do what you love

>>76832647
That's a meme answer though, most people hate _all_ work.

>>76832685
sorry you hate your job, i enjoy mine. doesn't feel like work at all desu

>>76832705
>just b urself lmao

good on you for landing on a job that you don't consider like work, just keep in mind 99% of us aren't that lucky.

>>76832705
I like my job though, it's other people.

>>76832731
I'm not speaking for everyone, this guy lives in germany. Chances are he can do something he likes. Not like he'll go into thousands of debt like here

>>76832765
That's usually the issue.
I'd rather do twice the work and be left alone regardless of what the work is.

>>76826680
Dad, can I apply to art school, I did really great in art classes and the Polish art teacher who graduated art school said I am actually one of the few who have some sort of talent
>Sure, but I am gonna disinherit you, no son of mine shall be a worthless artist.

Dad, can I study philosophy? It’s not art, but I liked the classics, enjoyed Shopenhauer and predicate logic is the part of math I didn’t struggle with.
>Sure, but I am gonna disinherit you, no son of mine shall be a worthless philosopher.

Well, I didn’t suck at chemistry and biology, biochemistry or something like that...?
>Whatever you wish son, as long as it’s STEM!

Moral of the story: You don’t make decisions, decisions are made for you.

>>76828921
>I considered biochemistry

Reconsider. Doctorate degree is a necessity in this field if you want good wage. Learned that the hard way.

If you just want any STEM degree and then do whatever you wish, you might go for something easier. Biochemistry itself isn’t the hardest out there, but you still have to pass organic chemistry classes.

>>76832965
>Whatever you wish son, as long as it’s STEM!
>You don’t make decisions, decisions are made for you.

Do you know if you father has any Asian blood in him? that hit way too fucking close to home.

>>76833620
It is very likely.

Chronicles and archeological evidence points out that marriages between asiatic Avars and indo-european Moravians were very common untill shortly after the fall of the Avar khaganate.

Maybe something involving IT? I'mm betting it's the safest education you can get job-wise. Can't really imagine a single workfield where having experience with computers is a negative thing, every part of society is moving more and more towards robotics and automated machines. I'm guessing you can work in practically any field at all if you get IT education, everyone's gonna need people who knows their way around that stuff.

>>76834283

IT degrees teach you the basics, but it's the sort of field where you more or less have to constantly self educate yourself in order to keep yourself employable. Wouldn't really recommend it to someone who doesn't have intrinsic motivation for programming.

>>76834788
in a perfect world this would be true, but the hunger for worker of the industry means they'd take almost anybody