Just learned that North Korea has a higher HDI than Vietnam or

>>76825096
>How the fuck?
meme index

did you unironically fall for the "they're all starving peasants" meme?

>>76825096
they're all shitholes

But HDI is a meme

North Korea actually was economically more powerful than South Korea until the 80s... mostly because of subsidies from the Soviets.

>>76825135
Why is it a meme?

Seems to be the best indicator of quality of life for the average citizen

Maybe because of financial gaps that exist on indonesia and Vietnam...?heard the gap is bigger than the one in China

Botched statistics

>>76825192
maybe for the top 30 countries, but comparing life in a first world country to a mid-lower second, or third world country just doesn't work.

There is no comparison with life in say South Korea to North Korea. or Japan and Vietnam. or the U.S. and Chad.'

Putting them on the same spectrum is like trying to weigh a whale in ounces

>>76825223
What's that

>>76825096
I'm not entirely convinced that North Korean data on education and healthcare are all that reliable.

>>76825096
Higher than Mexico kek

>>76825096
b-b-b-b-but drumpf told me communism was bad!

>>76825268
ah yes, they clearly outsource their missile development and cyberwarfare campaigns to foreigners

>>76825309
he's talking about the average joe and not the top 10% dumbass

Authoritarian countries have a history of faking statistics

>>76825096
The last datas of North Korea are from the 90s, when they didn't go full meme. So of course they were better then.

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>people will defend a nation that imprisons a person and his entire family(3 generations) for saying Kim Jong un instead of Dear leader Kim Jong un.

>>76825096
communism is less destructive to your braincells than islam

>>76825411
So their HDI hasn't changed since then? The formula for calculating HDI changed recently (in the last decade or so) therefore if it's high it's probably with the old formula.

The new formula decreased HDIs all around, even in developed countries.

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>>76825424
It's also against the law to turn a newspaper upside down if it has a picture of kimmy on it

>>76825435
>coming from a country that was completely irrelevant during the cold war
Wew. You don't know how bad communism really is lad. You didn't fight in wars where tens of millions died to either defend or fight against it.

>>76825438
HDI doesn't calculating all countries, they always leave out some countries everytime, for example the newest HDI left out Marshall Islands, North Korea and Monaco.

>>76825192
>Seems to be the best indicator of quality of life for the average citizen

Literally biggest criticism of HDI is that it doesn't reflect the quality of life of the average citizen.

One billionaire and 5 other people starving makes everyone in that country a billionaire according to HDI.

>>76825424
How does anyone respect this fat, baby-faced cunt over there? Cult of personality is fuckin' crazy.

>>76825469
Yeah, but what I mean to say is if it's higher than many countries that are probably better, it's because it's using the old formula and people are comparing it to the HDIs calculated with the newer formula, that are lower than they would be with the old formula.

>>76825435
>>76825446
I think you caught a muzzie, Poland!

>>76825446
>Wew. You don't know how bad communism really is lad. You didn't fight in wars where tens of millions died to either defend or fight against it.

"People fought against it, so it's bad."
t. American politician, discussing gommunism

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>>76825469
>marshall islands
>a country

America nuked them and then annexed them

>>76825501
t. John Bachtall
Leader of the CPUSA

I wish the CIA still went after you fucks

>>76825491
well when your choices are respect or be sent to gulag it's a pretty easy decision to make

>>76825491
He's kinda deified and people learn from young age to praise the whole dynasty (NK is actually a necropracy as Kim Il Sung is still the leader). Lots of people do genuinely buy into propaganda and leave gifts at statues.

>>76825446
Can't really say its a communist state anymore since it failed so hard during the famine in the 90's that the ration distrubution to feed the people failed. So the people now have services and markets where they can sell produce and products. Dollars are even used as currency in NK.

>>76825491
This >>76825539
Also gift policy. Be a good citizen and recieve gifts. It's also a way to keep the higher ups happy. Kim now even uses money that should feed the people for this thing.

Documentary on the gulag if intrested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUOHARC_Og

>>76825579
Apparently they teach in schools that Kim Jong Un was born in front of a fucking unicorn. hahah

>>76825446
>You don't know how bad communism really is lad
i know, its just islam is worse

>>76825242
Thats not true. My buddy moved to s korea fir work.

>>76825596
You, Malaysia, and Brunei seems economically better than most of south east Asia

>>76825803
yea because of sheer manpower and oil, only malaysia is legit and that because of brit education, islam is unironically hindering it

>>76825096
The HDI is a composite index made up of three indexes:
Life Expectancy Index,
Education Index and
Income Index

the problem with the HDI is how the U.N. measures education, even though the United Nations claims that "Education is a major component of well-being and is used in the measure of economic development and quality of life, which is a key factor determining whether a country is a developed, developing, or underdeveloped nation" the "Mean years of schooling" and "Expected years of schooling" used in the Education Index are not a good measure of how skilled or smart the population of a given country is this is very different from infant mortality rate and to a lesser extend GNI (PPP) (which are respectively the main indicators to draw the Life Expectancy Index and Income Index)

>>76826001
For example, see this data from PIAAC, which measures actual skills from a variety of countries shows that people with the same "years of schooling" display very different skills levels, both within and across countries

>The Survey of Adult Skills shows that, in some countries, actual skills levels differ markedly from what data on formal qualifications suggest.
>For example, Italy, Spain and the United States rank much higher internationally in the proportion of 25-34 year-olds with tertiary attainment than they do in literacy or numeracy proficiency among the same age group.
>Even more striking is that, on average, Japanese and Dutch 25-34 year-olds who have only completed high school easily outperform Italian or Spanish university graduates of the same age.

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>>76826252

>>76826252
Wow. Italians BTFO. You think it's because of the standards of education?

>>76825596
>>76825854
Then move to North Korea already.

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>>76826268
mm... not so much really, now that some international large scale assessments, besides measuring the cognitive skills of their respective target populations based on their frameworks and distributing a background questionnaire, they have starting to distribute different questionnaires to teachers, school principals and parents for example, with of all that data we can estimate the effects of the standards of education in different countries and very interestly, for example in PISA 2015, if we only take OECD countries, just a little percentage of the variation in reading, math and science performance is explained by the differences in education systems, and again this is very interesting because for example, people in Spain, the United States, Norway, France, etc., tend to think that their standards are very different from countries like Finland or Korea but what the data shows is that at least the OECD countries do have a system up and running, all of them have functional systems, children go to school, they have a curriculum they have to follow, there are bathrooms and roofs in the schools, they have teachers, if the teachers are absent there are substitutes, etc., maybe there are some differences in some policies but the basics are covered and the differences between education systems would be even lower if we were to take out countries like Mexico, Turkey or Israel from the equation

>>76825446
>Let me judge about your county based on my limited knowledge and sheer opinionated ignorance
We killed 1 million of commies (figurative number) just to please the USA and untangle us from that political mess up. Now go and fuck your cousin Hillbilly.

>>76825096
>Trusting nork stats

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>>76825096

>>76825259
gap between rich and poor