How did this guy and a band of misfits manage to overtake the

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Yes, just ignore there masters.

>>76359816

He had the MEANS to be PRODUCTIVE.

>>76359860
How was incredible man...even cucked the USA.

Wish he was never killed.

>>76359816
CIA support.

>>76359925
CIA and USA HATED based Che .

>>76359835
At the very beginning Castro had no ties to the Soviet Government. They became allies only after the victory over Batista and that was the reason for Castro veterans to join Alpha 66 and similar groups
>>76359816
Cuban revolutionaries did what the people wanted: the land reform, affordable social services like education and healthcare.

>>76359816
Castro's galician genes. Galicians are born to govern nations, they're natural rulers.

>>76359951
No they didnt.

Have u ever heard the term "false flag"

dady usa needed a conveniente treat at the doors so they can control domestic affairs whit ease

>>76360566
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)
Nah.

>>76360700
That ACTUALLY makes sense.

Fuck.

Che was based af regardless. Powerful Argentinian genes.

Because he was smart.

Most people in the government and the army are not.

Usually people like that just become scientists, lawyers, doctors in general.

Some become revolutionaries.

>>76359816

what he did is admirable (I am an anticommunist, I mean admirable in very against all odds and demanding courage) but he got killed in Bolivia because Cuba's army was more comparable to a Police Force than an actual army.
The idea that what he did in Cuba could be done in any country was wrong, and got a lot of communists (and innocent people) killed pointlessly, including himself.

>>76361069
Based fucking Austria providing a based answer. Thanks bro. You're spectacular. Have a fantastic day!

>>76361098
He got killed in Bolivia because they didn't support his cause. Because inbetween the time when he first saw Bolivia's political and economic landscape to when he arrived to overtake the government, A LOT changed. Things improved. They didn't want to support his cause. He didn't realize this. Got too prideful and ego got in the way. So he tried anyway and got killed by some CIAcuck

>>76361118
I have been really impressed with Ernesto Guevara ever since I read his biography.

He kept it together a lot better than most revolutionaries and he was never afraid to take action for his ideals of a better world.

Yeah, he then proceeded to ruin Cuba faster than if Batista had stayed in power.
Also, enjoyed killing whoever he pleased, stealing the goods of those he murdered, and benefiting greatly from those riches while he advised the people not to be capitalistic.
How he became some kind of "hero", I will never understand.

>>76361715
*citation needed*

>>76361749
How good is Cuba now? Why do people prefer traversing a shark-infested sea to Florida instead of reaping the benefits of communism?
Why hasn't it developed? Don't tell me it was "da embargo's" fault because they were free to commercialize with everybody else.

>>76362018
>implying usa would've allowed other countries to trade with Cuba

Che was based af. You're jelly that he was Argentinian and not Brazilian.

>>76362018
Ah cuba is objectively better than brazil right now.Their health service is top among the world and unemployment rate is also very low.

>>76362084
I would rather live in Cuba than anywhere in Latin America. They have a lower homicide rate than Argentina or Uruguay. Plus they are nicer people.

>>76362689
>I would rather live in Cuba than anywhere in Latin America
I can asure you that Cubans think otherwise, it's pretty easy idealize commushit when you don't live in a commie country

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based argies exporting communism and marxism to the world as usual

superior amerindian genes cucking the rest of the world

>>76360529
>At the very beginning Castro had no ties to the Soviet Government. They became allies only after the victory over Batista and that was the reason for Castro veterans to join Alpha 66 and similar groups
Sounds like the USA and France in 1778

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>>76359816
>Is this the power of the Argentinian?
Argentina is doomed to be the silver medal, 2nd place, in this hemisphere.

Why didn't Castro stick to el beisbol?

>>76362018
cuba is shit thanks to castro, by the end of his life che was in disagreement over what cuba had become and castro ratted him out and got him killed because he was too charismatic and influential

>>76362689
It really depends. If I'm gonna be middle class - poor in Latin America, I may as well be that in Cuba. Cuba is beautiful. Amazing people. God tier health care. Etc.

But if I'm gonna be a filthy rich snake. Then Mexico or Argentina Brazil etc.

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>>76363843
>Panama makes anti-Cuba and therefore pro-US post
is it Christmas? or a blue moon? what satanic rift has broken forth?!

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>>76363918
>It really depends. If I'm gonna be middle class - poor in Latin America, I may as well be that in Cuba. Cuba is beautiful. Amazing people. God tier health care. Etc.

>>76363997
Did I stutter?

>>76363918

you dont know what I am saying. Middle class poeple in latin america live much better than Cuban doctors.
My sister is a psychiatrist and she went on vacations to Cuba 2 years ago. Cuban doctors cant do the same.
btw, my sister is a hypocrite who talks wonders of the "dignity" of the Cuban people while drinking from a bottle of wine worth more than the yearly wage of a cuban doctor.

Cuba eliminated extreme poverty at the cost of eliminating the middle class. Here only 30% of the population would live better in Cuba.

>>76364045
Yeah you have a timbit stuck between your teeth, you two-bit dimwit

>>76363928
you only think that because you are a fat stupid fatyfuck with 2 nibbles of a brain

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>>76364076
>Cuba eliminated extreme poverty at the cost of eliminating the middle class.
le corbyn face

>>76362689
>>76362084
Yeah I'm real sure you're begging to live in Castro's personal slave state where wages are 150 USD a month and they have two hours of electricity a day.

>>76363918
enjoy getting your piece of dough in a line for breakfast then

>Obama lifts travel restrictions to Cuba
>airlines and cruise ships start booking trips there
>they're cancelling the routes now because they can't find any takers

>>76364221
Trump is still a cuck for trying to reverse everything. The midwest needs new markets to export food, and we have been lobbying for opening relations with Cuba since forever.

Let us sell our corn you fucking jackasses. We have more than enough and need to repair our rust belt wastelands

>>76361172
Bolivia were pretty pro-American until Evo Morales happened, they gladly helped give the CIA Che's whereabouts.

>>76364265
He's putting restriction back on because said commerce doesn't go anywhere but to line Raul Castro's pockets.

Americans should lift the sanctions if they want to see communism end, or Cuba at least becoming a capitalist dictatorship like China.

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>>76364389
Capitalism and dictatorship are mutually exclusive terms.

>>76364265
One reason for high food prices in the US during the 1970s was Nixon's decision to sell millions of tons of grain to the Soviet Union.

>>76361172
>>76364296
A Bolivian farmer actually turned him in and the CIA was questioning him after capture but two Bolivian guards killed him. It would have been better for us if he was imprisoned in the U.S. than dead.

>>76364439
>Capitalism and dictatorship are mutually exclusive terms.

hahahahahaha

>>76365557
I don't think North Korea has very much capitalism, do you?

>>76365784
oh wow, marvelous argument, I've been absolutely BTFO, how will I ever recover

>>76365784

>tfw my countrymen proving to be this stupid once again

>>76366135
He's not wrong. Authoritarian government and state micromanagement of the economy go hand in hand.

>>76365784
Why do you guys even try to discuss about anything other than guns?

>>76366394
I don't own any firearms.

>>76366266
>>76364150
Thanks. Based Spain laying down the redpill.

>>76367685
The Argie in here probably fell for the China is capitalist meme when in reality the state still controls major portions of the economy and private enterprise is only allowed to a limited extent that doesn't threaten the CCP's power.

>>76361749
>>76363918
Get offa /int/, Justin.

>>76365498
Do you really think bolivians killed him without cia autorization?

>>76367762
>what is State Capitalism and Fascism
>inb4 "not real capitalism"

the fact you made up your own personal definition that capitalism is all about personal freedom + republic values has no value here

I wish 4chan was blocked in Canada

>>76363843
>cuba is shit thanks to the US block

FTFY

>>76369460
>Cuba cannot survive economically without the business of Castro's greatest foe
That says quite a few things.

>>76369543
Presidents stealing everything is not socialist.

>>76369012

>>76364439
According to that map, Argentina is like North Korea level for economic freedom.

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>>76369543
Argentina was a clear example of state capitalism sprinkled with Keynesianist ideas actually.
Don't see how that contradicts my argument that dictatorships can be capitalists.

>>76369705
Don't see how that contradicts my argument that dictatorships can be capitalist. Capitalism and socialism are one axis, normal to the authoritarian-liberal dichothomy. This is very basic politics.
But since all the argument you could make to say that Dictatorships =/= Capitalism was pointing to one single dictatorship, let me in return point to what you'd call a white crow that every other pro-capitalist first worlder heard about lately: Pinochet

>>76369832
>Capitalism was pointing to one single dictatorship, let me in return point to what you'd call a white crow that every other pro-capitalist first worlder heard about lately: Pinochet

Wait, didn't he need American economics professors to turn Chile back to free market economics or something?

>>76364104
>implying wage stagnation and rising living costs haven't decimated the """middle""" class over the last decade anyway

>>76372603
Thanks, Obama.