what went wrong? people often like to compare Argentina to Australia

>>76238432
Who fucking cares? Why don't you go back to fapping to your 2D Chinese girls instead of doing worthless shit like this?

El mestizaje maligno happened

>>76238432
>Italians
>Spaniards
What could possibly go wrong?

>>76238455
I'm genuinely interested m8

>>76238504
Shitty govs in the second haf of the 20th century. The last military junta nationalized the private owned debt, fucking the country really hard.

>>76238432
Australia wasn't filled with prisoners, you dumb fucking proxyfag. We received minor amounts of prisoners, later on, mainly as a means to help provide relief for the British colonies in North America, which was historically used as a prison colony.
If you aren't a proxy then you're violating GR2. No Australian adult can have gone through high school and spout British and American propaganda thinking it is historically accurate.

Enjoy your 30 day ban, dumb fucking kid.

>>76238591
you're blurring historical facts together

>>76238432
>How did they fuck it up so badly?

The South American way aka mix of fascism and socialism

>>76238676
Is it easy to get citizenship/real passport there now? Same question about Chile?

socialism

>>76238432
Te lo dire en español ya que me da flojera usar el inglés, el problema de argentina han sidos sus "gobiernos" en el 1900 Argentina era la sexta economia a nivel mundial y no paraban de crecer, pero la nación del populismo ataco y argentina nunca volvio a ser lo que era, tiene una cantidad de recursos y tierra para trabajar increible pero no ha sido capaz de usarla debido a que durante esos gobiernos populistas Argentina se abrio al mercado pero fueron usadas medidas mercantilistas(en vez de capitalistas y verdadero libre mercado) por lo que todos los del gobierno se conocian y la corrupción creció, con los Kirchner el problema se hizo insostenible actualmente tiene muchos problemas pero se ha estabilizado, tienen a un presidente mas o menos decente pero dimensionalmente mejor que Kirchner

>>76238591
>We received minor amounts of prisoners, later on, mainly as a means to help provide relief for the British colonies in North America, which was historically used as a prison colony
This is generally wrong. Australia did receive convicts that would have otherwise gone to America, but Australia was founded AFTER America declared independence. The colony of New South Wales was also intended to be a convict colony, unlike the American colonies.
The first fleet was 1/3rd convict, with a large number of the free settlers being the family of convicts, so to say that it was "later on" is factually incorrect.
Over 160,000 convicts were transported to Australia too, which is far more than a "minor amount", especially when you consider the amount of modern Australians that have convict heritage. Most of the points of difference between English and Australian culture stem from the country's convict history and discounting it is objectively retarded.

Neck yourself.

>>76238709
well...
Temporary residency visa
>180 days out of 1 year or 2 years continuously if you are on a work permit visa. (The earliest you can apply for permanent residency is nine months after receiving your temporary visa).
Permanent residency visa
>five full years with a permanent residency visa (if you leave Chile for more than a year you will lose this visa).
Application for citizenship
>This can take a while to process, sometimes as long as a year.

>1920s
>receive hordes of yuros
>a huge lot of them have been reading about marx and socialism
>the government, used to be elitist, aristochratic, with semi open market, with the foresight to know that Argentina's one strength was providing cheap food and wool to the industrialized nations
>the fact we were on the opposite hemisphere was a huge plus because farmers would harvest by the time food reserves were running low on the other side of the world
>a new law about compulsory, secret voting comes out
>politicians stop being muh evil burgoise and start being the people's nice uncle
>Britain, our biggest sponsor and trade partner starts losing ground to the Americans
>government tries to slowly introduce industries, not a lot of other countries interested on them, some of them actively passing protectionist policies so they can only sell stuff to us and we can't really sell anything back
>1942 dictatorship to fix diplomatic clusterfuck and appease foreign powers
>a young officer is designated work minister
>populist as fuck, gains lots of support, even though the reforms he introduces were common among other, more industrialized modern countries at the time
>1945 free elections
>said young officer wins
>Juan Peron
>Keynesian statism reincarnated
>nationalizes everything considered "necesary" for the government, from trains to the national bank
>does quite a few good things
>but missmanages the economy as fuck
>we had like 60 years of 1% inflation
>then with Peronism we got a number of successive hiperinflations
>more bad policies
>protectionism goes up
>government owned companies that are only relevant because the government has to pour money on them hire twice as many employees as they need because lol, we have to lower unemployment
>extrapolate all that half assery to win short term popularity in exchange for long term progress for the next 50 years
>present

Religion isn't the people's opium, it's populism.

>>76239043
thank you for this post

>>76238800
>>76239043
thanks

>>76239068
I hit the character limit, but wanted to talk about some politicians that wanted to pull back from all that short term planning, but them always losing the elections to the people's wishful thinking of having the cake and eating too.
And about the dictatorships and other stuff too, can't really blame everything on Peronism

>>76239098
How does the election process work in argentina? do you have checks and balances like here in the US? genuinely curious

>>76238585
What made them do that?

>>76239119
Parties either select their candidates, or have to go through a primaries system like on the US. Voting is compulsory, and if you don't vote, I think you can't hold public office, or ask for a government credit, or stuff like that.
And yeah, while we're a republic, the Kirchner's governments a few years back would try to influence the other powers, one way or another. Sometimes using legal loopholes and trying to fire the government officials that wouldn't fall in line, or sometimes more shady shit.
I heard that the Nisman's assasination was reported on the US closely, for example.
Was an attorney that was going to present a big fat investigation against the then president Cristina Kirchner. He apparently """""suicided"" the day before.

They also did similar shit but with popular opinion. Buying media that talked shit about them. The distrust for politicians grew exponentially this last decade, I think.

>>76238432
Socialism ruined Argentina

>>76239193
That sucks that corruption has fucked your country. I feel that the US's system that it has set in place to prevent corruption is dissapearing and we may be in the same situation not too far from now

>>76239242
It depends on how healthy the government institutions are, and if they're shit, it depends on the civilian institutions, and if they're shit, it depends on how redpilled and clear head the average voter is.
However, I think it's on most people's interest to hold the current status quo, not only on the American's interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIdUSqsz0Io

The guy made an error prediction oil prices and so on, but essentially the US has too good of a geography and population to fail, even with mediocre governments.

>>76238432
>what went wrong?
Peronism

>>76238432
argentina is where many nazis went after the war, they had to be punished.

it is around other south americans shitholes.at least they are 80% european

>>76244230

>80% European

They don't look even 50% European.

socialism?

>>76244230
The neighboring countries of South America rarely interfere with each other. Even immigration is not large among countries, until recently at least (Venezuela)

Usually it is American interference, Russian or from some other country