What happens here? It doesn't seem like they really interect

it's a mystery even to us, never heard any news from there in 23 years

>>76034714

I think they're like meta-nations which are actually just empty land with fake population numbers.

If people actually existed in them, you would maybe hear something at all relating to them, which you never do.

Creole Niggers and Creole Pajeet who speak english, dutch and french.

>>76035109
Well actually some american weirdo made a cult and organized a massive suicide on Surinam, in a an artificial village he made of his name.

>>>/x/

>>76035139
It was Guyana.

>>76035139
source here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
It was on Guyana actually.

>>76034714
I know some Guyanese. Most of the population lives in 2 (I may be off on the number) coastal cities. It's humid and rains a lot. Due to the heat they bathe a lot. The Jungle is a no go zone, if prisoners escape prison and enter, no one follows them.

>>76035139
kek yes, that's where the phrase 'drinking the koolaid' came from

A president actually wanted to annex them to the point he organized the troops. Crimea style.

But he dropped the idea.

>>76035260
Oh yeah and they are mostly black or Indian (dot kind).

Suriname is filled with niggers that just eat and sleep.
It's one of the safest places in South America. And quite comfy and friendly.

>>76035465
>filled with niggers
>It's one of the safest places in South America.
Hmmmm......

>>76035274
Chances are you'd end up in a war with the UK, Netherlands and France then.

Suriname had a nasty civil war between 1986 and 1992 between military dictator Dési Bouterse and the so-called 'Jungle Commando', led by Ronnie Brunswijk, who used to be Bouterse's bodyguard. The Surinamese are a heterogenous mix of 'Hindostanis' (Hindus), Javanese, Creoles, Maroons (tribalized descendants of escaped slaves), Dutchmen (called 'Boeroes'), Amerindians, Chinese, and Sephardi Jews. These Jews tried to found an inland colony, called Jodensavanne ('Jewish Savannah), but it was destroyed by a slave revolt.

Guyana is a very isolated and backwards place. Ethnically speaking, it is dominated by Hindustanis and Africans along with a large Amerindian population. It has a longstanding border dispute with Venezuela, which claims half of Guyana's territory. The cowboy-dominated southeastern savannahs were the theater of the 1969 Rupununi Uprising, when angry Scottish ranchers destroyed a local police station with bazookas. But by far the most famous event to take place in Guyana was the Jonestown massacre, when an American 'utopian', 'christian' 'communist' community commited mass suicide after their human rights violations were exposed. 909 people died. You should look up the aerial pics of the dead, littered everywhere around the compound. It's pretty astonishing.

French Guyana has a more Antillean feel to it. There are no Indians there, just Creoles, Maroons, Whites, Chinese, Hmongs and Amerindians. Many Amerindians live in the southern third, which is reserved to them and where trespassing is not permitted. French Guyana has large gold reserves, and illegal mining has attracted many rural Guianese and Brazilians into secluded shantytowns. This activity pollutes the rivers, and the organized crime it attracts has caused many deaths in the jungle. It also harbors the launch pad of the European Space Agency(ESA) and Arianespace the world's first commercial launch service provider(60% of the current market share).

>>76035274
which president?

>>76035573

They recently tried to connect French Guyana to Brazil with a multi-billion Euro bridge(the border runs along a river that has to be crossed in little boats). The only problem is that it ends in the forest on the Brazilian side, since the Brazilian authorities haven't really started building the road to the bridge.

>>76035559
With France I agree. You lot and the bongs wouldn't do much, maybe economic sanctions, but that's it. Neither of you really has an interest in the area

>>76035683
We all have Islands and military bases in the Caribbean and patrol there together for a joined defense.

>>76035559

He wanted only French Guyana. Funny that at the same time we had a crisis with them because of Lobsters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_War

>>76035598

Jânio Quadros.

http://www.forte.jor.br/2016/09/03/o-dia-em-que-um-presidente-brasileiro-quis-anexar-um-vizinho/

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>>76035703

This one?

>>76035770
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyapock_River_Bridge

Yes, I just read the roads are done but the Brazilian checkpoint hasn't been finished(expected to be finished this year).

>>76035770
Our military does train in the jungles of Suriname and French Guyana.

But the Carribean Islands are where regular navy and air force units are stationed.

>>76035537
Well you know the incredible thing is that some niggers lives exactly like natives africans on the jungles, they are descendants of escaped slaves and lives a totally tribal lifestyle, with sometimes elements of local amerindians.
I heard even concerning languages, they speak a very tribal creole with a lot of african words.

>>76035894
Dutch army chilling in the Carribean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4iycn1Pj28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBcxmWPLamk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7Yo0JhQRU

>>76035857

Lots of problems indeed, not only lack of Roads. Highways up north were always shit tier for some reasons while down southern they're way better.
Also there's claims that Brazilians won't be able to enter there while the French are able to come here visa-free, governor saying that the federal govt are the ones who should build and people who works with boats are against the bridge because >muh jobs.

It's a clusterfuck.

>>76035894
>>76036018

Isn't Suriname independent?

bump
been wondering this myself

>>76036113
Yes it is.

>>76036117
In short: crazy shit see>>76035573

>>76036123

Why so many Dutch troops?

>>76034714
GUYANA
Originally a Dutch colony in the 17th century, by 1815 Guyana had become a British possession. The abolition of slavery led to settlement of urban areas by former slaves and the importation of indentured servants from India to work the sugar plantations. The resulting ethnocultural divide has persisted and has led to turbulent politics. Guyana achieved independence from the UK in 1966, and since then it has been ruled mostly by socialist-oriented governments. In 1992, Cheddi JAGAN was elected president in what is considered the country's first free and fair election since independence. After his death five years later, his wife, Janet JAGAN, became president but resigned in 1999 due to poor health. Her successor, Bharrat JAGDEO, was elected in 2001 and again in 2006. Early elections held in May 2015 resulted in the first change in governing party and the replacement of President Donald RAMOTAR by current President David GRANGER

Population:
735,909
Ethnic groups:
East Indian 39.8%, black (African) 29.3%, mixed 19.9%, Amerindian 10.5%, other 0.5% (includes Portuguese, Chinese, white) (2012 est.)
Religions:
Protestant 34.8% (Pentecostal 22.8%, Seventh Day Adventist 5.4%, Anglican 5.2%, Methodist 1.4%), Hindu 24.8%, Roman Catholic 7.1%, Muslim 6.8%, Jehovah's Witness 1.3%, Rastafarian 0.5%, other Christian 20.8%, other 0.9%, none 3.1% (2012 est.)
Principal Languages:
English
Languages:
English (official), Guyanese Creole, Amerindian languages (including Caribbean and Arawak languages), Indian languages (including Caribbean Hindustani, a dialect of Hindi), Chinese (2014 est.)
Literacy Rate
89%

>>76035857
>>76036075

Also the bridge is open.

>>76036256
Demographic profile:
Guyana is the only English-speaking country in South America and shares cultural and historical bonds with the Anglophone Caribbean. Guyana's two largest ethnic groups are the Afro-Guyanese (descendants of African slaves) and the Indo-Guyanese (descendants of Indian indentured laborers), which together comprise about three quarters of Guyana's population. Tensions periodically have boiled over between the two groups, which back ethnically based political parties and vote along ethnic lines. Poverty reduction has stagnated since the late 1990s. About one-third of the Guyanese population lives below the poverty line; indigenous people are disproportionately affected. Although Guyana's literacy rate is reported to be among the highest in the Western Hemisphere, the level of functional literacy is considerably lower, which has been attributed to poor education quality, teacher training, and infrastructure.
Guyana's emigration rate is among the highest in the world - more than 55% of its citizens reside abroad - and it is one of the largest recipients of remittances relative to GDP among Latin American and Caribbean counties. Although remittances are a vital source of income for most citizens, the pervasive emigration of skilled workers deprives Guyana of professionals in healthcare and other key sectors. More than 80% of Guyanese nationals with tertiary level educations have emigrated. Brain drain and the concentration of limited medical resources in Georgetown hamper Guyana's ability to meet the health needs of its predominantly rural population. Guyana has one of the highest HIV prevalence rates in the region and continues to rely on international support for its HIV treatment and prevention programs.

>>76036198
We have six Islands there. Aruba, Curacao, Sint Maarten, Bonaire, Saba and Saint Eustatius.

And Venezuela is a threat to our Islands.

Plus the USA also wants us to be present there. So they can use our Islands as a military base as well. The USA fears the Caribbean becomes a shithole if we leave.

>>76036276

>Venezuela
>threat

lol

>The USA fears the Caribbean becomes a shithole if we leave.

Besides resorts, isn't a shithole already?

>>76036347
The French Islands are shitholes. The Dutch Islands are richer than Poortugal.

>>76034714
SURINAME
First explored by the Spaniards in the 16th century and then settled by the English in the mid-17th century, Suriname became a Dutch colony in 1667. With the abolition of African slavery in 1863, workers were brought in from India and Java. The Netherlands granted the colony independence in 1975. Five years later the civilian government was replaced by a military regime that soon declared Suriname a socialist republic. It continued to exert control through a succession of nominally civilian administrations until 1987, when international pressure finally forced a democratic election. In 1990, the military overthrew the civilian leadership, but a democratically elected government - a four-party coalition - returned to power in 1991. The coalition expanded to eight parties in 2005 and ruled until August 2010, when voters returned former military leader Desire BOUTERSE and his opposition coalition to power. President BOUTERSE was reelected unopposed in 2015.

Population:
585,824
Ethnic groups:
Hindustani (also known locally as "East Indians"; their ancestors emigrated from northern India in the latter part of the 19th century) 27.4%, "Maroon" (their African ancestors were brought to the country in the 17th and 18th centuries as slaves and escaped to the interior) 21.7%, Creole (mixed white and black) 15.7%, Javanese 13.7%, mixed 13.4%, other 7.6%, unspecified 0.6% (2012 est.)
Religions:
Protestant 23.6% (includes Evangelical 11.2%, Moravian 11.2%, Reformed .7%, Lutheran .5%), Hindu 22.3%, Roman Catholic 21.6%, Muslim 13.8%, other Christian 3.2%, Winti 1.8%, Jehovah's Witness 1.2%, other 1.7%, none 7.5%, unspecified 3.2% (2012 est.)
Principal Languages:
Dutch, Sranan
Languages:
Dutch (official), English (widely spoken), Sranang Tongo (Surinamese, sometimes called Taki-Taki, is the native language of Creoles and much of the younger population and is lingua franca among others), Caribbean Hindustani (a dialect of Hindi), Javanese
Literacy Rate
95%

>>76036357

Wew really?

>>76036363
Demographic profile:
Suriname is a pluralistic society consisting primarily of Creoles (persons of mixed African and European heritage), the descendants of escaped African slaves known as Maroons, and the descendants of Indian and Javanese contract workers. The country overall is in full, post-industrial demographic transition, with a low fertility rate, a moderate mortality rate, and a rising life expectancy. However, the Maroon population of the rural interior lags behind because of lower educational attainment and contraceptive use, higher malnutrition, and significantly less access to electricity, potable water, sanitation, infrastructure, and health care.
Some 350,000 people of Surinamese descent live in the Netherlands, Suriname's former colonial ruler. In the 19th century, better-educated, largely Dutch-speaking Surinamese began emigrating to the Netherlands. World War II interrupted the outflow, but it resumed after the war when Dutch labor demands grew - emigrants included all segments of the Creole population. Suriname still is strongly influenced by the Netherlands because most Surinamese have relatives living there and it is the largest supplier of development aid. Other emigration destinations include French Guiana and the United States. Suriname's immigration rules are flexible, and the country is easy to enter illegally because rainforests obscure its borders. Since the mid-1980s, Brazilians have settled in Suriname's capital, Paramaribo, or eastern Suriname, where they mine gold. This immigration is likely to slowly re-orient Suriname toward its Latin American roots.

>>76036276
Venezuela doesn't want your islands, why is it a threat? Also, why would the Caribbean become a shithole if you leave?

>>76036357
Sint Maarten is an Island where the Dutch and the French each control one half.
>Population 38,247 on the Dutch side and 36,992 on the French side
So they are equal in size.

>Martin's Dutch side is known for its festive nightlife, beaches, jewellery, drinks made with native rum-based guavaberry liquors, and casinos
>GDP $1.394 billion ($794.7 million Sint Maarten

>The island's French side is known for its nude beaches, clothes, shopping (including outdoor markets), and French and Indian Caribbean cuisine
>$599 million Saint Martin

>>76036408
Aruba in 2011 has the GDP per capita of Italy in 2015

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

>>76036458
>Venezuela doesn't want your islands, why is it a threat?
They have been threatening our Islands on and off since 2006.
Claiming they are theirs, sending marine ships into our waters, shooting at drug trafficers in our air space, claiming the USA is staging an invasion from our Islands. And so on.

>Also, why would the Caribbean become a shithole if you leave?
The USA fears corruption and drug cartels would take over the Islands.

>>76036458
>Venezuela doesn't want your islands, why is it a threat
They openly claim most of Guyana now. It wouldn't surprise me if they also wanted nearby Dutch islands.

>>76036607
I mean, Caribbean niggers cannot bribe the Dutch government, prosecutors, military or police forces controlled us.

Earlier this year in Curacao reelections had to be held, but the local government didn't think it was important to hold new elections. Because they were in charge in that worked out just fine.

So our government asked them if they were attempting a coup on the Kings Island. Then they changed their mind and held their elections.

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>>76036743
>We don't need elections. We boss now.

>>76036743
>So our government asked them if they were attempting a coup on the Kings Island. Then they changed their mind and held their elections.

Based Dutchman

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>>76036408
Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba are literally part of the Netherlands and French Guiana is literally part of France just like how Alaska is literally part of the United States or how Buenos Aires is literally part of Argentina, Miranda part of Venezuela, Johor part of Malaysia, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE_IUPInEuc

All Dutch language call centers are located in Suriname

>>76035260
>The Jungle is a no go zone,
Why? Is it the wildlife?

>>76038443
Interesting. I guess because they're native Dutch speakers and live in a poor ass country so they get paid shit.

>>76034714
Guyana does

Pretty sure they're part of CARICOM

>>76035109
I guess central Asia doesn't exist either then

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>Maroons were Africans who had escaped from slavery in the Americas and formed independent settlements.
>In the New World, as early as 1512, enslaved Africans escaped from Spanish captors and either joined indigenous peoples or eked out a living on their own.[3]
How could I have not known this fact,it's really interesting. African slave brought to Guyana who somehow escaped and formed their own tribe there.

>>76035115
and hindi

>>76035537
There are a number of African countries with lower violent crime rates than the US and on par with Europe, m8.

>>76035939
Sounds nice.

>>76038443
Nah, most Dutch call center employees are Dutch university students.

The city centers of large cities in the Netherlands have large calls centers that employ everyone that applies. And the job is ideal for students because you are allowed to schedule yourself in at any day and any time.