/asean/

>>75903567
Pertmax for mad dog
Biar greget.

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Memek pfft.

>>75903567
that hammer girl is sexuell though

>>75903567
ape maksud kot?

>>75904640
you're not malay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4Bta5UNTHw

E3 lads

>>75904773
maaf nye aku babi jinjang

>>75905057
kot = maybe
not formal just slang

>>75905120
betul kot, 3ma ksih.

Hey guys have you touched Oppai these days?

me
No

>>75906282
I'll touch you

>>75903567
the raid is overrated

>>75906282
me
Yes

>>75906321
Any other good indo movies?

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>Haruka moves to Rumah Uya
Why? She was perfect fit in at Ini Talkshow.

>>75906615
Since when Haruka is part of Ini Talkshow? I like the girl wearing kebaya every episode and serving drinks to hosts and guests

>>75906321
Second one is. The first one is good for it's simplicity.
>>75906516
Joko Anwar is goat director if you're into thriller.

>>75906798
Where can I download old Indo film in HD? I saw the trailer for Janji Joni in HD by Flik TV

>>75906924
It's all dvd-rip tier. I don't think they ever release blueray.

>>75906767
2014. She contracted with Trans corp for doing Rumah Uya. I even wonder what's the point of that reality show, it's just cat-fighting between women about boys.

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>staying up at 3am just to be disappointed by EA shit
a-at least I got my snacks

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Why is E3 so cringe?

>>75907690
>>75907801
>playing games

>>75907875
Nothing wrong with games once in a while

Is "pagpag-eating Bisaya" just a meme here? I wonder how many flip anons are Tagalog and how many are Bisaya.

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Pic is average tagalog land. Disgusting.

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>>75908772
Pagpag is bisayan delicacy

And the reason why our IQ rating is so low and full of Rebels like cancer

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Pic related is Bisaya land

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>>75915751
>poe is from visayas
>roxas is from visayas
Kek, and now they consider them ayy as one when its convenient
>Binay
Muh would ilocano north
Hahahahah
>dutdut
I rest my case

Could have just gone with erap
Tsktsk
Which is a dutdut ally

>>75908772
No its not and now its "pagpag eating Isis sympathizing bisayans"

>>75916097
Thanks for the clear answer.

Eek, hope this cancerous regionalism doesn't spill out IRL (too much).

can some indonesian translate this for me
>jilbab crot di muka

>>75916783
What are you looking for, ya akhi? Its Ramadan, masya Allah.
Jilbab=Hijab
Crot di muka=cum in face

>>75916885
thank you good friend

>>75916351
We just wish that the federalism that dut-duts want happen already. We all living in the Luzon region would love to see a feudal version of Japan in Mindanao. Oh wait! its already a hell hole after all, with its Muslim terrorist niggers.

>>75903567
Greetings /asean/. Can ethnic Malays who are citizens of Singapore, travel visa free to Malaysia? Or at the least, is traveling to Malaysia less of a hassle for them? Thanks.

>>75917058
All /asean/ can travel visa free to all /asean/ countries except for Myanmar (eVisa)

>>75917244
Neat. Do Malays like Chinese people?

>>75917299
Depends. On day to day basis there's no problem. It only become a problem when politics + economic issue arises.

Why indonesians don't emigrate to other countries unlike flips? Although they have over twice larger population than flips, I've never seen them before in here.

>>75918283
We does but not as much as flips of course. Mostly to malaysia, gulf arab, hongkong as domestic servant.
I heard some Indonesian is also working on elder caregiver in japan. Don't know how much tho.

>>75918283
They came here instead. There's 2 million of them here.

>>75918283
>cheap cost of living
>less competitive
>massive lands
>visiting other island is just like visiting a new country, with new culture and shit
>beautiful scenery
>good weather
>good food
Only tryhards and masochists emigrate to other countries bruh, and majority of Indonesians are neither

What happened to frenchie?

>>75903567
Great movie, I really like them.
Raid 3 fucking when? reeeeeeeeee

>>75918830
Watch Merantau you still haven't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtkLFm3QrmA

>>75919437

Pretty good movie too.

>>75918790
>indonesia
>good weather

>>75919776
its considered good for brit unless jerebu season

>>75920516
what's jerebu

>>75921396
haze

>>75921453
she will marry someone that she will not love for money + business
she will never know you
her family will deal with you if you came to close to a relationship

>>75921453
It's literally in the filename you moron petho file

>>75921507
Do you want to update us with your Keling Ass 2017© version

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I am back, spoke to my qt. I am more confused than ever, she still seems very committed to me, however she has no intention of ever moving to England for sure as it's away from family. She wants to work in US though as she has some family there. What does this mean for me?

>>75921744
You're being a cuck as usual. She doesnt actually care about you

>>75921453
Newfag get out!

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>>75921857
>As usual
What did he mean by this?

Idk I think maybe it's early days so she says that. Maybe a bit down the line she will think different, we haven't been together for too long so I think maybe I'm being silly and getting ahead of myself

>>75921972
Does they start to sensor non japanese pron too now? Because its al looked blur.
Anyway you newfag should go back to >>>/blacked/

>>75921962
Werent you that brit that keep bragging about having tons of social life but never actually score anything?

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>>75922080
N-no, not me desu. I am new in this thread from last thread.

>>75922230
>avatarfag
>weebs
You are a cuck by default anyway

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>>75922308
Mean

>>75906516
is cicak man Indo?

Why can't Perodua do well outside of Malaysia? I know Malaysia has protectionist policies that encourage local cars, but that doesn't explain why they have less success exporting cars.

>>75918283
Their economy is better.

>>75923380
>Their economy is better.

Who's the greatest President we ever had in terms of their handling of our economy?

>>75923667
Post-EDSA, Probably either P-Noy or Ramos, but that's not saying much considering they also had their share of fuckups, and in P-Noy's case at least some of his programs were continuations of GMA's. Pre-war, I read it was Garcia, but he was ridiculously corrupt.

>>75903567
love this movie
hate indonesia though

>>75923702
They say Pnoy is better than the recent presidents because he was mediocre. Opinions?

>>75923783
I wouldn't say mediocre: he had his flaws and mistakes, but by standards he was above-average at the very least, a 7/10. By contrast, I'd rate Duts a 5/10: he has his intentions in the right place in some aspects, but that EJK thing and pandering to trapos is dragging him down. GMA, as corrupt as she was, was actually a decent president, and many of her policies are still being used to some extent today. Erap, I was like four when he was kicked out so not much comments on him (though apparently the consensus is that he had good intentions, but inexperience and "friendships" brought him down). Ditto for Ramos.

>>75923667
>greatest President
i think you already know the answer. its marcos.

our gdp growth at that time was four times higher than today.

too bad brainwashed liberal sites literally compare our gdp from that that time and today and ofcourse the gap was huge

>>75923710
this got me thinking
I don't think I've ever seen a good australian movie aside from Mad max

>>75923845
>our gdp growth at that time was four times higher than today.
Someone post the sourced image that pretty much said the exact opposite of this. Oh, and that graph was adjusted for inflation and used a fixed rate IIRC.

>>75923845
>greatest president
Left our country in debt after raping us

>>75923910
>not knowing about investments
More like ousted while in the middle of his job and blame him.

Our loans and debt that time was normal comparing to japan and the rest of superpowers. well i dont blame the banks lending the money since our economy was next to japan

>>75923958
>since our economy was next to japan
It was until the early 1980s when uncertainty and economic mismanagement did us in. We never really recovered from that.

Also, the problem with our debts is that we loaned too much and couldn't pay them back. It wouldn't have mattered if it was put to good use most of the time, but maybe less than half went to useful stuff and the rest was used to pay off Imelda and friends' shopping sprees.

>>75923986
the 80s-90s killed all the rising SEA countries

>>75923986
So if Marcos didn't happen. could we actually have become a 1st world nation or at least not as bad as we are now? cuz I'm pretty sure we'd have more presence in pop culture if we were actually rich.

>>75923958
It wouldn't have been his job if he actually stepped down after his 2nd term 13 years prior.

>>75924071
If power didn't corrupt him, probably.

>>75924071
Not a guarantee, but it's quite possible. Though I read somewhere that even before Marcos, our economy was starting to stagnate and corruption was getting worse by the year, so maybe we were just doomed from the start.

>>75924049
Not Malaysia.

there is no thread on /pol/ about isis vs pinoy powerful military assisted with US special force

I watched isis thugs destroyed church and burned with fire

Are you guys alright?

>>75924180
Malaysia is full of moslems

>>75924215
It's one city and way down south

>>75924246
But there was bombing a few weeks ago in Manila.

You guys must not go to crowded area at least this weekend.

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>>75923881
>>75923845
>>75923958

>>75924336
Should we suck Arroyo's dick?

>>75924246
Can you make a thread on /pol/ and post something new about it or video footage about their combat just in case for habbning

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>>75924286

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>>75923958
>>75923845
State-run monopolies, mismanaged exchange rates, imprudent monetary policy and debt management, all underpinned by rampant corruption and cronyism, were among the key factors that plunged the Philippine economy into the worst economic contraction that it has experienced in its entire history.

For at least a while, such was the authoritarian control of the dictator that many of the excesses in the form of captured and corrupted state policies were unchecked. Such was the centralization of power and impunity that there was little inclination to preserve the legitimacy of the regime by reducing poverty and inequality.

As regards the much vaunted infrastructure spending during those years, they further added that “[…]the bulk of construction and other capital outlays in both the private and public sectors were not very productive and many were outrightly wasteful.”

>>75924336
i don't get this meme, the gdp seems to be going up

>>75924384
meh l0l

>>75924360
An Pnoy, together with Cory and Ramos

>>75924360
No, and she deserved to stay in detention, but she was better than a lot of people give her credit for. Unlike Marcos, as bad as she was overall, I'd be willing to defend her if necessary.

>>75924438
His debt driven policies screwed us over

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>>75919776
I actually kind of like our weather though. The temperature is consistently stable every year, if it's 27C at day then it would be around that for a year. I don't need to prepare fall/winter suits and just use either spring or summer suits whenever I like.

>>75924481
what's wrong with that? US has trillions of debt yet a first world country, so is Japan

>>75924501
At least in Bali it wasn't that humid so even when it was hot the weather was more comfortable than over here.

>TFW no Filipino bf with qt benis

>>75924462

They're all so big!

>>75924516
It's not really the amount of debt that's the problem, it's how you manage it and if you're able to pay it back. And the US is having some problems with its debts, which is why the debt ceiling is a big thing over there. It's that the US economy is big enough that it's able to manage debts properly. With less developed countries like the Philippines (and more famously, Greece), the problems can become harder to manage and debts can stun economic progress.

>>75924516
We borrowed to much without a safety net like oil or tech industry or even manufacturing to pay it back

sugar was not enough

>>75924516
Greece?

>>75924537
yes if you cut it

it did plunge erap a bit

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>>75924385
I have found areas where combat is now habbning, but I don't know where is the area ISIS members are inhibiting.

Is that entire area of island that Muslims are ruling?

>>75924632
>Muslims

maybe I should not use Muslims.
Radical islamists*

halo
hehehe

I find it funny how some people want to rename NAIA back to MIA. By their logic we'd be renaming Marcos Highway, Macapagal Boulevard, Garcia Avenue, etc.

>>75924632
we have this thing called ARMM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Region_in_Muslim_Mindanao

Its like a muslim governed region. kinda ironic when terrorists also propagates in their area

>>75924632
Mindanao is the region where most of the Muslims in the Philippines live. The ISIS' kouhai Maute group, the group the government's fighting in Marawi is based in the province of Lanao del Sur, in which Marawi is the capital of the province. There are other groups based in the other provinces of Mindanao, but I don't know if they're considered radical Islamist, but they are Muslim separatist groups. They're all assholes, though.

>>75924795
or the name of the country for the matter

>>75924828
Muh-harlika

>>75924828
I wonder what would happen if we were to de-hispanisize our entire culture

>>75924848
>Marcos supported a House Bill mandating the country's renaming to Maharlika
I prefer Republika ng Katagalugan

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>>75924071
Without his policies
people claim yes

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>>75924877
>Republika ng Katagalugan
no famlam

>>75924848
>>75924859
>>75924877
Luzviminda would have been fine

maharlika is to tagalog centric

>>75924501
I envy you, here we got only rain season and haze season

>>75924900
Luzviminda as a country name sucks. Rizalia would be nice, like Bolivia.

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>>75924919
>spic naming semantics

>>75924900
The funny thing is that many of the same people that don't like the name NAIA have no problem with or are even pushing for Maharlika. As if they're either blissfully or deliberately unaware of the negative connotation that name had because of WW2.

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>>75924859
I dunno,man. I fucking love Bahay Na Bato houses.

>>75924950
yeah, the mixture of spanish and malay here really screams 'filipino'

>>75924945
Why not? Our Spanish-ness is what makes us the Philippines l0l

>>75924950
There's one that's just a short walk away from my house. The former archbishop of Manila was raised there.

>>75924969
I know right?

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>>75924998
>Spanish-ness
lel if only that were true. filipinos are just larp-ing spics from what I've seen.

>>75918283
Will you give me Japanese citizenship?

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>>75924859
Now?

Muslim and mountain tribes will hold their own

but the rest will be pulling bullshit our of thier asses and possible culture stealing
from muslims in which their ancestors drink the blood of the Spaniards to get rid of

>>75924859
Can we be more Hindu? I'd love more Sanskrit influence in our culture.

It doesnt matter anyway. in the future we all be called ASEAN and aseanos

>>75925088
>aseANOs
no thanks

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comfy isn't it?

I wish more people use it as a background

Bahala na is the only thing I can think of that features this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXrLhV1vvUA

>>75925095
ASSeANOS

>>75925084
Baybayin is derived from Sanskrit.

>>75925098
Cozy. It screams noli me tangere and province life but might be easily blown away by typhoon

>>75925174
Not just baybayin, a good portion of Tagalog and other Philippine languages is composed of Sanskrit loanwords. Some obvious examples are guro and mahal.

>>75925221
Agham, sampalataya, maharlika, etc.

>>75925221
SEA languages often use Bhasa/Bahasa/Phasa so call languges. I think only Vietnamese and some other Philippine languages use native term for the word "language".

>>75925343
yeah, we use "wika"

>>75925343
I don't know if it's related to bhasa, but we have basa meaning read.

>>75925098
Why is it called bahay na bato when it's made of wood?

>>75925221
>>75925242
>Sanskrit loanwords
or just words that we already have even before we settle here

>>75925377
The foundations and walls are made of stone.

>>75925394
What do you mean?

>>75924950
What about the bahay na bato looks Filipino? even the windows came from China

>>75925407
we already use it by default

>>75923337
cicakman is malaysia OC

>>75925435
Yea, but at some point in time they were words from Sanskrit we didn't use. I wonder if we had native words for those that got replaced by them.

Any Iglesias here? Need to ask some questions.

>>75925460
Or maybe not

>>75925464
There was an AMA by an Iglesia in Reddit yesterday. Try there l0l

>>75925416
>even the windows came from China

I would like to see the proof of that tbhhwy

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>>75924632
Is Negros island full of blacks?

>>75925460
maybe those are already our native words when we settled here

>>75925364
Read is baca in indo/malay

>>75925517
yeah we spic arrived it was full of ati tribes

>>75925506
honestly, people just keep telling me that. not sure if true. im a sheep

>>75925524
Most likely not. What do you mean by when we settled here, anyway?

>>75925566
SEA is very "indianized"
we didnt sprout from trees

>>75925460
thats the thing there are many "natives" here

>>75925581
I know. I'm saying they're not words that are native to Austronesian languages, but rather loanwords from Sanskrit, due to the Indianization of our region.

>>75925616
what I mean >>75925604

>>75925491
I don't have a Reddit account and I don't currently plan on making one.

>>75925524
Not really accurate. Much of SEA had trade links with India, which is why Hinduism and later Buddhism gained a stronghold here. The Philippines wasn't strongly affected due to its location and the fact that the Muslims were on their way by the time the Hindus and Buddhists could have had an influence here. However, there were enough trade links, both direct and indirect, to allow some cultural assimilation to take place.

Interestingly enough, it appears that there are actually at least a million Buddhists here, though most of them are Chinese Filipinos. Also, I found it weird to learn that the INCs only number about two million in the country when they're so powerful and so rich.

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>>75924950
>>75925098
OG Filipino houses

>>75925637
>The Philippines wasn't strongly affected due to its location and the fact that the Muslims were on their way by the time the Hindus and Buddhists could have had an influence here. However, there were enough trade links, both direct and indirect, to allow some cultural assimilation to take place.

so some of those words did came from ours and possible being mislabeled as sanskrt just to sound civilized

>>75918830
this this this
Get on it Indonesia

>>75925685
No. As I said, while we weren't strongly affected by Indianization, unlike other parts of SEA, trade relations were large enough for some aspects of Indian culture to arrive here. We even have a local word for elephant (gadya) even though locally elephants became extinct thousands of years ago. Also, it's said that some local arts, like the sarimanok, had Indian influences.

>>75925685
Bait

>>75925720
>while we weren't strongly affected by Indianization,

makes sense maybe we should just own up to our own words instead labeling them as sanskrit

>>75925758
Trade with the Malays were strong, though. So it's possible we had indirect Indian influence from Malays. But I really can't help feeling that this is bait.

>>75925758
>>75925811
we are the "malays"

>>75925827
No. Malays and Filipinos are both Austronesian. Same same but different

>>75925811
thats why>>75925394

>>75925851
there's is no such thing as flip
before the spics came

hence ""malay'"

>>75925854
No, it's because of the relatively close distance between the two, as compared to us and India.

>>75925873
Okay. I mean the inhabitants of pre-Hispanic Philippines

>>75925880
tho>>75925811

>>75925898
Fuck, you got me. Baited.

>>75925827
>>75925851
>>75925854
>>75925873
>>75925880
>>75925896
How come I never see Indonesians or Malaysians talk about their culture in this thread. always Filipino

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>>75925896
>>75925873
it was a wave of migration

>>75925942
They probably have something better for them to do. :(

>>75925946
That theory of Indons and Malays migrating to the pre-Hispanic Philippines is no longer widely accepted.

>>75925942
because we are more willing to accept that everything is "loan" here and subhuman enough not to develop our own

>>75925961
then all of us are Aetas? larping

>>75903567
>>>75925942
>because we are more willing to accept that everything is "loan" herr
You mean the truth? Ah shit I'm falling for it again

>>75925986
Lul no. I didn't even say that.

>>75925989
and yet>>75925961
so inconsistent

>>75926012
What do you mean? I assume the loan thing being talked about was the Sanskrit loanwords, since that's what's being talked about. Saying that we indirectly got them from the Malays doesn't mean we came from Malays.

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>>75925946
many theories

>>75923864
watch Picnic at Hanging Rock or Hacksaw Ridge

>>75926058
>Saying that we indirectly got them from the Malays doesn't mean we came from Malays.
do we even have our own theories to counter this
>>75925946
>>75925946
>>75926059
it seem like we do have many natives here

>>75925680
>OG
you do know thats a loan right

>>75926098
Core population theory by Felipe Jocano
>Jocano further believes that the present Filipinos are products of the long process of cultural evolution and movement of people. This not only holds true for Filipinos, but for the Indonesians and the Malays of Malaysia, as well. No group among the three is culturally or genetically dominant. Hence, Jocano says that it is not correct to attribute the Filipino culture as being Malayan in orientation.

>>75923864
Crocodile Dundee

>>75926173
>long process of cultural evolution and movement of people
so he does agree
>>75926059
>>75925946

it doesn't say we are similar either especially now but points put our origins
does he have his own thoery?

>>75926150
Is everything here is?

>>75926328
yes

>>75926340
>>75926340

kek we culturally evolve to develop those Sanskrit words ayy lmao

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>tfw no white bf

WHY EVEN LIVE? I FUCKING HATE BEING ASAIN

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>>75926433

why am I asain? I want white bf now!!!

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>>75926451

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>>75926261
Also, here's where they say that Beyer's theory is most likely BS https://books.google.com/?id=15KZU-yMuisC&pg=PA11

>>75926466
it really doesn't say much about our origins but only how as an archipelago our cultures are bound to be different

and not everyone here is a tabon person

>>75926575
Ah, whatever. As long as it's less BS than Beyer's.

>>75926617
for palawan people maybe but for the rest of us?

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Post your dl and up speed
>tfw shit ping

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>>75925942
2015 was golden era for that. We talked many things about our cultures. We just lost interest since we had enough discussion and shitpost instead.

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>>75926682
Here. Please no bully.

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>>75926682

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>>75926682
Can't even load it

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>>75926451
I still don't get this, you can easily get a white bf as an asian cause queers are usually promiscuous degenerates. It seems more like you just want to be white.

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>>75927159
>Haha

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>>75926716
>faster than 51% of AU

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>>75927265

>MACC stormed FGV
our only hope are on AG to do the right thing and hopefully it wont be another 1mdb shitshow

>>75926708
dont forget the erp
hnnnnngh

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>>75927653
cuteposting*
Cuteposting was a mistake though, it became erp later. It was my biggest mistake, I should had not do cuteposting back then.

God tier: nomads (Kazakh, Kyrgyz, Mongols)
Shit tier: other asians

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>>75927882
>mongol
>good

>>75927904
>Drowned
Fucking how?

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>>75927526
Hmmpf

still wondering why philippines is putting harsh visa policies on china but no visa policies for japanese?

>>75927904
I don't know this, how could they invade Jave if they didn't conquer Thai kingdoms and Khmer Empire?

>>75928037
Sea you fool.
You can see they use ship.

>>75928037
But they did. Or rather they surrender without even fighting.

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>>75927964
I have found a Malay chan in our history painting.
How do they described us when they went back from here at that time?

>>75928084
From conquered Pagan kingdom to Java isn't a short road.

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>>75928037
Because they wanted to monopolize sea silk road.

>>75928120
They use Champa or Khmer at a seaport.
But whatever it is, it already foolish to try to conquer Java.
Even if they successfully captures the king, they gonna get ambushed to death.

>>75928216
If I recall it right, apparently the invasion was planned by Raden Wijaya (the first Majapahit emperor). Basically mongol invaded Java by Raden Wijaya's helping, then when they won the war, he fought the mongol which made them confused and after that fled away from Java.

I Find a good read m8. Unironically relevant with previous the raid discussion.
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=769113610696
A little bit hiperbolic maybe.

>>75928107
Apart from Japan Empire thing, I don't think we learned about you. But for sure we refer (I don't know about in Malaysia) you as Jepang which is what we call you since old days.

>>75928278
>majapahit
jawak detected

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What the fuck is this shit?
http://www.geocities.jp/ikoh12/kennkyuuno_to/014_1NHK_hi-vision_tokusyuu_2010-06-13.html

>>75928422
Learn to read the conversation, dumbfuck. The topic is about mongol invasion and the winner is Raden Wijaya who later founded Majapahit.
Didn't you learn this at school?

>>75925942
Because all Malay culture are derived from Indonesian perhaps?

>>75928466
Any notable kingdom from Malay penisula, apart from Srivijaya and Malaca Sultanate?

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>>75928388
oh, It was Indon kun my bad sorry.
They seemed very comfy to be served for the Dutch.

What is that cloth the person wearing? Does it still existing?
another picture for you

>>75928456
>raden wijawak
>backstabbing cunt
makes senses

J A W A K
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W
A
K

>>75928466
Indonesia isn't a ethnic state through. You can say that Malay culture came from the territory that is in present day Indonesia.

>>75918807
I'm here, I am curious to see how is Flipbong right now.

>>75928424
"who came to japan first"

>>75928424
Pretty meme, when humans settled in Japan, Austronesians would also just settled in Indonesia.

>>75928522
That hat is called blangkon, but I don't think people wore that clothes anymore. It seems like it's servant clothes though.

>>75928216
I dont think they ever annexed us. We only paid them tribute to leave us alone. If I recall correctly, the mongols never established any strong military presence in the khmer empire

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>>75928623
The interesting thing about Austronesian people is how they can spread genes to Malay archipelago and oceania with only their ships.
This is still unknown reason why Austronesian people went outside their island with ships, better be settle in southeast china or around dai viet instead.

>>75928732
Of course, in SEA, i think only Pagan kingdom got rekt, and Dali kingdom also (a Tai state, although located in modern day China).

>>75928757
Austronesian languages had the largest rage before the colonial period (larger Indo-European). Nice because this is a pretty close knit language family, with a lot of cognates and many weren't fucked up by loanwords.

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>>75927789
Cuteposting makes you look gay. Hahaha

>>75928107
oooh do we have one?

>>75928828
>-Most languages have four or five vowels. A four-vowel system, constituted by i, u, ə, a, has been reconstructed for Proto-Austronesian.
>-Consonant inventories are variable but they are remarkably small in Polynesian languages. Among them, Hawaiian has just eight consonants (p, k, glottal stop, h, m, n, l, w).
Ah that's why some argues that Japanese is branched from proto-austronesian language.

>>75929015
Yeah, the simple phonelogy makes Austronesian languages less variable. Most Indo-European languages have much more complex phonology, long and short vowels and a bunch of different consonant, same goes to Sino-Tibetan.

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>>75928906

No way it our national treasure. It is in our history museum.

We have more footage of Indon kuns
This picture shows that Indon kuns were preparing food with us.

>>75929082
I think simple phonology is a good thing, though there will be many disadvantages such as homophones. In Malay archipelago, we fix it with adding more consonants also put consonant at last word while in Japan fix it with the help of chinese hanzi.
How about austro-asiatic? Any notable features?

>>75929015
I think Malay is considered the simplest agglutinative ever. :DDDD

>>75929130
I assume those "Indon-kuns" converted to Christianity. I mean look at what they are preparing

>>75929201
I don't think we were count as agglutinative language though since we only use one prefix, one suffix, or both one prefix and suffix for one word, like minum (to drink), dimimum (to be drunk), minuman (drink (n)). Agglutinative languages usually put two or more prefix or suffix for one word.

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>>75929215

I am not sure that the Dutch allowed them to have same religion.
But, some of them surely not badly treated by the Dutch.
Some were musicians.

>>75929192
Same grammar as Indonesian, most are analytic languages, very simple grammar. Phonology is a different things tho, there're three subgroups of Austroasiatic that have tones (Paluangic, Vietic and Pakanic) all influence by Chinese or Tai languages. Almost all Austroasiatic has implosive consonants (/ɓ/ and /ɗ/), minor syllables (we lost it anyway), aspirated consonant (Vietnamese has /tʰ/, /kʰ/, /pʰ/), complex vowels (tense and lax, long and short, so four version of the same vowels, Vietnamese lost it all lol), dipthrongs and tripthrongs. Khmer has a pretty pure typical Austroasiatic phonology.

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How did we communicate each other at that time?

They seem pretty peaceful.

>>75929491
probably using the most important language in the region
*ahen* mandarin *ahem*

>>75929365
So the only difference between Austo-asiatic and Austronesian languages are just in phonology.
Austo-asiatic, Austronesian, and Sino-Tibetian languages might be once one language in this case.

>>75929359
Missionaries tend to follow colonizations. This is primarily how there are Christians in Indonesia today. Not so sure about how natives were treated however but overall the paintings you provided show them used as servitors

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>>75929518
probably lel

Our old people were getting along well with the Chinese people,too. kek

>>75929518
Not necessarily Mandarin, maybe Classical Chinese. Basically back then, learned Japanese people knew Chinese and wrote in the language. In fact, written Japanese has a fairly recent history and was still being developed as late as the 1900s (when hiragana and katakana were used interchangeably instead of the specific uses today; also there were more characters that were later phased out).

>>75929569
I think the difference is that in the Philippines, people were practically forced to convert to Christianity, while in Indonesia, most Muslims/Hindus/Buddhists/etc. were left alone and peol

Our hospitality mind for gaijins was really traditional.

WE

>>75929569
>>75929647
*I think the difference is that in the Philippines, people were practically forced to convert to Christianity, while in Indonesia, most Muslims/Hindus/Buddhists/etc. were left alone and people were free to choose whether or not to convert. Another possibility is that by the time the Dutch and others arrived in Indonesia, there was already a sense of unity in the region due to the various empires back then, unlike over here where only Mindanao was really united under a common entity.

>>75923783
Sometimes mediocrity equals stability.

This cunt needs stability and not change.

That's why Tabako and Abnoy are considered decent Presidents despite their shortcomings.

Erap, GMA (second """term""") and Dutiti are fuckheads who should have never stepped foot in Malacanang.

When you play devil's advocate, will another bumfuck like FPJ be a better head of state than GMA?

>>75929566
Chinese and Burmese are odd cases, from what i know, many Sino-Tibetan languages (Tibetan included) are agglutinative as fugg.

>>75929682
Dutch loves money more than spreading religion, so that's why Christianity doesn't do well here.

>>75929708
Is Tai-Kadai part of the Sino-Tibetan family?

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>>75929569
This is a British war ship at that time.

pretty cool

>>75929686
>will another bumfuck like FPJ be a better head of state than GMA?
I doubt it. Unlike Duts (who at least was mayor and representative prior to becoming prez), FPJ had no politicial experience whatsoever. Sure we had Cory, but she was the exception rather than the rule, and she was a brilliant student and had good advisers backing her. With FPJ, he would have probably been an Erap 2.0, having good intentions but being brought down by a lack of experience, and the influence of his friends.

>>75929708
Maybe they got influenced by Austro-asiatic?
Tibetan languages then probably the most pure Sino-Tibetan language in this case.
So how about Korea language? apart from closer word order from Japanese, they don't really have any resemblance from other Far East Languages.

>>75929804
Japanese and Korean are both controversially said to be Altaic by some scholars, though others put Japanese in its own family (Japonic).

>>75929804
>Tibetan languages then probably the most pure Sino-Tibetan language in this case.
It's amusing that it's one of the two Sino-Tibetan languages that give out loanwords more than received (Middle Chinese is the other one), because of Tibetan Buddhism.

>>75929686
Duts is the closes comparision we can get for an FPJ win, it just feel like the country will be run by many officials and political senpaitachi behind the scenes, mainly by eraps and now Poe's people ex. Danding and the SMC suits etc, while we are being blinded by fpjs cult of personality.

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later on, Americans came here.
This picture is governor general Perry was watching sumo wrestling with us painted by the Dutch person.

African Americans were there too.

>>75924859
Considering that Spanish is going to be the official language of the US and the decay of English as world language after Brexit and modern multiculturalism, I think reinforcing Spanish would actually make more sense.

>>75929682
It could just be that they wanted to colonize for economic and political reasons. So religion could be left alone. However missionaries tend to follow colonization too. Which if there are already existing native Christians, can cause a lot of problems like in India where the Portugese and British arrivals created a fracture amongst the existing native St Thomas Christians. Today the fruits of this is how many different denominations they broken up into.

>>75929782
Yes. Pretty cool. Post more

>>75929932
Nah, even Duts is better than what an FPJ presidency would have ever been. He was a great actor and it was kind of sad to see him die like that, but I think as corrupt as GMA was, her win was ultimately a better outcome.

>>75929887
But japanese still has similar phonology system as Austronesian language, so in this case japanese has resemblance with other Far East languages while Korean doesn't have any resemblance at all with other Far East languages except Japanese.

>>75929909
Which one is the purest Sino-tibetan language then? Mandarin?

>>75929989
Which is why the Altaic classification is controversial and not widely accepted to begin with.

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people listening to missionaries.
I have no ideas why they can understand their word.

>>75929989
In term of loanwords, yes, Mandarin is super pure, it has less than 100 loanwords. But grammatically, Tibetic languages are purer. I would learn Dzongkha, it uses Tibetan script but much more phonetic.

>>75930074
They probably learnt Japanese one way or another. When missionaries first went here, apparently they brought along a slave that Magellan captured when he went to Indonesia years back. Some speculate that the slave was actually from the Philippines rather than Indonesia, which is why he could understand the locals.

>>75930109
Very probably, because this is what Spaniard Conquerors did in the Americas. They used natives to learn quickly

>>75930074
These guys must be the Jesuits. What is interesting is that the Jesuits actually gained a lot of infleunce in China and would often try to align Confucian philosophy with Catholicism. Pretty interesting stuff

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This was a footage that rude Brit man was about to beheaded by our strong samurai because he was passing by the drill walking of samurais. kek

Wait: where are the Malaysians?

>>75930156

This is called "namamugi incident" Did you learn about this in your history lesson?

>>75930207
It was my mistake. they were indon kuns.

>>75930238
No, I mean they've been missing for much of the thread.

>>75930156
That's right. they are catholic. Portuguese maybe?

>>75930260
ok sorry

>>75930211
No. Since I am Malaysian, the only two things I remembered from history are, evil Brits and Islam.

>>75930272
Italians IIRC. They got quite powerful during the Qing dynasty. The spread of Christianity in the country led to stuff like the Taiping and Boxer Rebellions.

>>75930306
haha

New thread
>>75930330

AMERICANS with their flag!

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>>75930272
Yes. There's the Jesuit St Francis Xavier that used pageantry to try to woo the Japanese to Catholicism. That part was of course not mentioned in Sunday school

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>>75930377
forgot pic

>>75929964
Not saying whose better or not
But just very similar