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Is it true that Russia outside of Moscow is basically a bunch

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Is it true that Russia outside of Moscow is basically a bunch of feudal territories?
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Mjscow is trash and should be nuked for the greater good.
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>>75256523
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>>75256438
Yes
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>>75256550
>muskovitian churka from central asia thinks that he's white
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>>75256593
>mongol calls decent russian people nonwhite
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>>75256552
THat's fucking terrifying
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I went to Kalmykia once and yes.
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But why isn't this common knowledge? I literally just found this out last night while talking to a Russian buddy of mine
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>>75256764
Where's it supposed to come up in conversation?
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what do russians call areas outside of Spb and moscow? I remember they used a word synonymous to "shithole in the middle of nowhere" but I can't remember it
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>>75256851
people talk about Russia A LOT here
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>>75256897
ZAMKADYE(Зaмкaдe)
From ZA-Behind and MKAD-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Ring_Road
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>>75256438
no, inside Moscow it's also still feudal as fuck.
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I visited more than 30 russian cities and Moskva is probably second worst. The worst city is Sochi.
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>>75256764
Russia is hypercentralised, so all resources go to Moscow. Moscow is like 19th century London, while rest of country is 19th century India
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>>75256897
also there is moohosransk - small town somewhere in shithole
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>>75256438
Yes.

And to the East, they only exist as supply towns for Moscow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE6rSljTwdU
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>>75256961
Best civilization aka city in russia?
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>>75256438
Moskvabad is a feudal churka state.
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Girls with dicks live in Moscow and Petersburg though
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>>75257849
>This is what zamkadysh believes
kek go to work for your shitty 100k
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>>75257695
Novgorod.
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>>75257905
Based
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>>75257695
spb
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>>75257695
Saint-Petersburger
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>>75258110
>>75258208
A fucking swamp.
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>>75257905
THIS.
Also, a little fix:
>Velikij Novgorod
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>>75256550
Fuck you.

// Siberian
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>>75258279
It should be t. Siberian
Are you a new here?
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>>75258208
>>75258110
lol fuck your gay wannabe european city. outside of the cit centre it's just a shit version of moscow. also you're all hipsters
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>>75258469
And city center is fucking huge, I rarely even go to the outer territories, where commieblocks are.
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what happens in cities like ryazan, pskov, yekaterinburg, novgorod and those smaller cities that aren't spb and msk
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Moscow>Spb>golden ring>>>piss>shit>>>rest
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>>75258735
actually ekaterinburg and kazan are being quite well developed and are "non city" tier
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>>75258735
Life goes on as usual. People spend their time shitposting on /int/ and drinking tea.
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Rostov masterrace coming in.
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>>75258793
where is it?
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>>75258849
Moscow
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home of gaz best city
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>>75256438
moscow infested with hachs and churkas, shittiest city in russia
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>>75256438
No, but Moscow still should be nuked tbqh

t. Siberian
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>>75256897
muhosransk - literal translation is place where a flies poo, really means city less than 1m population
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>>75258887
looks like typical modernised commie crap
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>>75258208
shit, full of winos and always shit weather
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>>75256961
Sochi far better that Moscow, probably in 1000 times
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>>75256438
central cities of moscow, spb are nice.
the rest is third world tier shit. and don't listen to those russian hicks itt defending their beloved villages.
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>>75259401
t.Kachubek selling pakhlava on destroyed after 2014 sochi games beach
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>>75259431
>central cities
*central parts i mean. the main streets
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>>75259401
Sochi is a shithole full of churkas, so is Moscow, but in Moscow you can at least get a job.
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>>75259502
nice engrish
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>>75259431
outside the center of city moscow and spb the same as other muhosransk. even worse because infested with 20+stories commieblocks with tons of cars near them
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What happens in north central Russia and why it has such few density of cities? It is just bad weather?
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>>75259431
yeah, and non-central parts are something cyberpunk asian anthill with commieblocks. like any other muhosranks.
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>>75259543
>bad weather?
Yes.
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>>75259543
Well, Petersburg is there and it's okay. But the weather is shit, yeah.
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>>75259588
I live in rostokino. not centre and bretty nice place 2bh. and i have a free house lel
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>>75259514
In Sochi you can get a job too, and you can live in warm climate on the coast, moscow also full of churkas and hachs, also shit air and you have to spend a lot of time in transport
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>>75259636
>>75259543
Oh wait, by "central Russia" you meant not central Russia, but Siberia?

Well, the density is even too high, I would say. What to do in these cities? Nobody would come there if not soviets. Siberia has enough land on the south.
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>>75256961
Sochi is london tier. There are too much churkas even for moscovites 2bh
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>>75259543
poverty, alcoholism, abortions, snow
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>>75259644
literally your average muhosransk
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>>75259736
nobody even live there, except some dumb from norilsk
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>>75258793
>golden ring
what is golden ring?
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>>75259759
its better than most and close to vdnkh
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>>75259650
Sochi has the same salaries as all other oblast centers.

I dunno, maybe it's nice if you are Moscow's downshifter, but for a person from any other oblast it's the same shit.
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>>75259805
a bunch of smol cities
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Ring
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>>75259543
>why aren't there a lot of cities in Patagonia
I wonder, anon
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>>75259831
>its better than most
no it's literally the same shit as other poor, ugly and depressing russian towns
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>>75259543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg7S_YzjCwU
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from this thread everyone outside of moscow is a butthurt racist !!!
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>>75259831
I'm just telling that Moscow looks like any other soviet Muhosranks, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

The central parts of Muhosranks also look better.
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>>75259854
>the same shit
with better weather
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>>75259934
And with kubanoids and armenians everywhere.
Do they even have winters in there?
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>>75259917
return to your shitty caucass abdul
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>>75259917
We are not, it's just that creatures inhabiting moscow are not people. You can't be racist towards non-people, can you?
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>>75259917
>Muscovites are sure that they are different race from Russians
Nothing new here, move along.
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>>75259917
true
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>>75260253
>nomad memes
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>>75260253
Nomad is a perfect example of a moscovite. He is arrogant, ugly and stupid
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>>75260353
>>75260361
>nomad
Who?
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>>75260376
underage, ban
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>all these mad non muscovites
keep that hate faggots
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>>75260353
oldfag detected
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>>75260422
>WTF dude, I mean, this meme is SO epic, why don't you enjoy it
Yeah, nah
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>>75256438
Russia basically runs on 'blat', which is to say 'favours' from others in a semi-informal way and it sort of runs back to the era of the Soviets.
That might mean, you call in a favour to get some items, vodka, food etc... all the way up to dodging the conscription, being elected to mayor, getting a better job and so on. To most westerners looking in (like myself) its incredibly corrupt and has its roots in organised crime, but for those on the inside, its basically their way of life and a form of 'upward mobility' in a fairly nasty kind of way. Because while you might have called in that favour so your son dodges conscription, at some point later that favour gets called in and you maybe do 2-3 years in prison for some misdemeanour's someone else did or they bury a couple of journalists bodies on your property one dark night.

That runs all the way up to the top. Now while the Tsar has his little Barons out in the countryside who are there because he's elevated them to that status, the Tsar is also reliant on them to maintain his own stability with their favours, to deflect anything that's coming up from the bottom trying to depose him. Cash basically only gets you so far in Russia, as does your immediate family as support, you do need the social connections to 'know someone' who in turn knows someone that can fix you up.
Course, you welch on those favours later on, you're a dog and get kicked to the kerb, or buried in a grave somewhere.

Short version-
Yeah its a festering shit hole of oligarchy, crime and despotism.
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>>75261358
wow...

what's chechenya like?
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>>75261358
>Russia basically runs on 'blat'
Stopped reading here, the info is outdated. Like ~20 years outdated.
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>>75261489
A feudal state of Russia :)
Putin pays them to not get rapey on the Russians and so far it seems to be working.

Chechen's are fucking scary cunts, they're basically filthy sand people that know how to aim a gun and that basically makes them the spec forces of the muslim world.
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>>75261358
Have you just watch brigada and thought it is a documentary? What's the fuck you are talking about?
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>>75261569
>20 years outdated
Not really, it was still there pretty recently by my own estimates and some of the more scurrilous relatives that live there.
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>>75261358
>i watched some shitty one hour documentary about 80s USSR
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>>75261489
like Afghanistan
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>>75261678
>watch brigada
Never heard of it

>>75261739
Just travelling through the place. You want to show how it is now from your perspective, go ahead.
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>>75261596
>Putin pays them to not get rapey on the Russians and so far it seems to be working.
Can't Russia crush them? They're only like 1% of the population, they'll fall in a month at most of the entire army gets into it.

>Chechen's are fucking scary cunts, they're basically filthy sand people that know how to aim a gun and that basically makes them the spec forces of the muslim world.
*cough* turkey *cough*
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>>75261784
Seems like you got absolutely nothing from your traveling. I don't understand shit and it's not about perspective or something. It's just you talk about things that don't exist anymore or changed beyond recognition.
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>>75261358
Everything is wrong, both about modern Russia and about imperial Russia
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>>75261784
>Just travelling through the place.
>do 2-3 years in prison for some misdemeanour's someone else did or they bury a couple of journalists bodies on your property one dark night.
Yeah, i can imagine that.

>Hey John, do you want to know how is life in Russia?
>It's all about blyat. For example, yesterday Ivan asked me to bury three dead journalists in my yard. Tomorrow he will give me three cows a chimpanzee and a few bactrian camels.
>You call it corruption, we say "upward mobility".
>Such is life in soviet russia.

Seriously though, cut down on shitty movies.
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>>75261814
Russia went in, got crushed horribly in the 1st Chechen War
2nd Chechen War they went in very hard and managed to crush them enough (literally bombed into the stone age) and establish a pro-Russian government to run the place. Its generally cheaper that way then going in like they did in Ukraine when it went anti-Russian. Ukraine is going to be very costly for them in the long run unless they can get a pro-Russian government into power there.
Syria will also do a fairly good job of bleeding them white for a while too.

Turks are ok as a military, but they're generally fairly moderate people (for muslims) and don't go on Jihad for the kicks like all the medieval, backwards cunts do.
Chechens are hard line, no bullshit ones that will murder your sorry arse for mucking around. Very dangerous.
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>>75261989
Oh I wasn't talking about Imperial Russia
Tsar Putin is doing a good enough job of sending you back there.

>>75262022
Tell me how you dodged conscription then?
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>>75261814
He pays them just because they're part of his mafia. If Russia wanted it would destroy chechnya and kill all chechens, dismember them and put their limbs in the bottles
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>>75262187
>Tell me how you dodged conscription then?
Why would i want to dodge it?
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>>75262187
you do know that if you go to uni they won't take you to the army?
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>>75262042
>Chechens are hard line, no bullshit ones that will murder your sorry arse for mucking around.
wew. I've met a few muzzies (turks and non-turks) that I can banter around with islam and stuff. Nothing full serious like like pedophilia and stuff but I can say I find Islam shit.

Would chechens be cool with that too? What about a little Big Mo bantz?
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>>75262244
1000 rubles or so a month ain't a great income mate, especially in your formative years when you should be making a career.

>>75262245
Yeah but uni costs $$$ and can be tricky to get into.
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>>75256438
No it's not.
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>>75262388
>Yeah but uni costs $$$
no, it's free here
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>>75262388
>uni costs $$$
Well, i guess you really know a few things about Russia. This is just terrible bait, i'm sorry.
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>>75258796
>"non city" tier
What did he mean by this?
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>>75262430
>>75262465
Westerners know absolutely nothing about Russia besides memes
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>>75262370
I know a couple of Turks, the odd Paki, Iranians, few Kurds, lot of Iraqi's and a Leb or two etc
They generally are the ones who ran away from their homeland for various reasons though and I reckon nearly all of them are complete atheists or well past the point of wanting to have much to do with religion

I'm sure there's probably one or two Chechen diaspora that can take a joke, but the locals are no fucking jokers that's for sure and the ones that do hit the road for Jihad fun times are probably the nastiest. When the 'tourists' come back from Syria, most of them are headed to the Ukraine to kill Russians, so there's gunna be a hell of a mess kicking off there soon.
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>>75262388
stop answer to those faggots, they are trolled you
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>>75262430
>>75262465
The fees are free, but how you going to pay for everything else in life if you're doing full time study? Rich parents?
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Do Russians marry churka girls?
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>>75262629
no they are ugly
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>>75262629
No but Churkas marry Russian girls
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>>75262673
t. churka living in Germoney
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Ruskies, give me your top 5 city list in Russia. I'm curious.
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>>75262614
>how you going to pay for everything else in life
For what exactly?
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>>75262668
They are not ugly
https://yandex.ru/images/search?nomisspell=1&text=дaгecтaнки&source=related-11
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>>75262614
life in the dormitory is not expensive.
but parents usually support students, yes.
or you can get a job.
or you can go to uni in your city.
there are also some scholarships for the poor.
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>>75262745
Mahachkala, Grozny, Nalchik, Vladikavkaz, Urus-Martan
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>>75262781
>https://yandex.ru/images/search?nomisspell=1&text=дaгecтaнки&source=related-11
ayyyyyyyy
y
y
y
y
lmao
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>>75262781
>https://yandex.ru/images/search?nomisspell=1&text=дaгecтaнки&source=related-11
Okay.
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>>75262614
Stupid westerner can't even support himself while studying full time. Pathetic.
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>>75262370
Chechens were more moderate in the past but during the wars everything was ruined there and they descended to middle ages. And than Putin installed Kadyrov there who is a very conservative person pushing le traditional values, religion etc so now Chechens are the most pious Muslims in Russia. For all the other Muslims in Russia religion is mostly a tradition and culture. Also ingushes are religious (but they are very close people to Chechens) and many dagestanis are religious (but not all of them).
In fact, Chechnya now is a vassal state with it's own laws and so. Navalny wants to enforce federal law there, secularize it again etc. Putin uses Chechens as his personal army.
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>>75262759
Books, transport, bills, computer, phone, maybe a tutor etc
Most Russian degrees are 5-6 years, that's a pretty heavy burden on most parents.

>>75262816
>or you can get a job.
Which cuts into study time
>or you can go to uni in your city.
What if there isn't one?
>there are also some scholarships for the poor.
Yeah, good luck with that
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>>75262837
>>75262850
She looks cute.
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>>75262745
>implying we ever left our muhosransks to compare and not just throwing shit to each other
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>>75262920
Well even non rich parents can afford this
Also most of students are freelancers
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>>75262920
>Books
You get books for free.
>transport
Yeah, okay.
>bills
What bills?
>computer
What computer?
>phone
Yeah, okay.
>maybe a tutor
How about you actually use your fucking textbooks.

Transport + phone will cost you no more than 1k rubles. It's actually less than a shittiest stipend.

And yeah, you can actually find a job, or study well and be able to afford much more than that.
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>>75262920
I don't get your point. And how do any other students in the world study? Except in some countries they also pay money for the education and in Russia they usually don't.
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>>75262629
It depends. Russians may marry Armenians, Georgians and Azeris, also Adyg girls, but Chechens, Ingushes and Dagestanis are too nationalistic. But some Dagestanis are okay with dating Russians though, I have seen anon reports in 2ch and one of my uni mates dated one.
>>75262668
Actually they are hot, we need liberal Russia to make them less conservative and fuck them.
>>75262745

Moscow
SPb
Krasnodar
Kazan
Novosibirsk
Sochi/Vladivostok (not sure which is better).
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>>75263105
what about Penza?
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>>75262745
Moscow, Petersburg, Novosibirsk, Yekaterinburg, Vladivostok.
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>>75263105
>Actually they are hot, we need liberal Russia to make them less conservative and fuck them.
What about niet cyka
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>>75263006
>freelancers
Meaning they work for themselves or do part time work for someone else?

>>75263056
I went through uni on a military scholarship and living in share houses with other students.
Most other's are usually either funded by parents, bit of government support or working part time to pay for it. Or a mix of that. Living on-campus is very expensive usually.
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>>75263153
never been there but it strongly associates with a shithole. why penza?
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>>75263105
>Chechens, Ingushes and Dagestanis are too nationalistic. But some Dagestanis are okay with dating Russians though
Dagestanis are definitely much better than Ingush or Chechen. They get bad reputation just by association. I'm a bit sad about it 2bh.
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no.
t. was in: Moscow, SPb, Novgorod, Rostov-na-Donu, Volgograd, Sochi, Perm, Tumen', Surgut, Omsk, Kemerovo, Khabarovsk and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky (lived there until uni)
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>>75263235
dagestan is actually very ethnically diverse. they all get clumped into one.
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>>75263396 do this>>75262745
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>>75263396
>Khabarovsk and Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
>no Vladivostok
what's the point of living in Far East and never visiting Valdivostok?
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>>75263153
Small shithole
>>75263204
>don't want liberal Russia
>posts Navalny
Are you retarded or what, lol? Also how about yes? Secularism and liberalism are the main two things we should force in this country, and ESPECIALLY in Caucasus because it's the most conservative region.
>>75263235
Of course they are better, they are less conservative and there are way more educated Dagestanis than Chechens. There was big Navalny rally in 26th of March in Makhachkala which would be impossible in Chechnya, also they are the serious part of trucker anti-Platon movement.
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>>75263473
What's the point of visiting Vladivostok?
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>>75263557
What's the point of visiting Kemerovo?
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>>75263483
outsiders are fucking retarded. they take everything for granted and are bored with life so LARP as facists or tough nazis
>>75263473
what's in vladivostok? other than good seafood
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>>75263557
It's the largest and most important city in the Far East
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>>75263204
Navalny is the biggest liberal politician in Russia, your post contrasts with your pic soo much. He promised to allow LGBT prides, decriminalization of weed, free speech, forbid media to be owned by the state, make oligarchs pay for privatization like Tony Blair etc. He wants to abandon anti-blasphemy law, he is secularist. His right hand Bolkov supports gay marriage and Pirate Party ideas on "electronic democracy".
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>>75263584
No point at all.
>>75263616
So what?
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>>75263584
grandmother lived there
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>>75263609
>what's in vladivostok? other than good seafood
It's basically our San Francisco except for IT industry and hippies.
>>75263483
>Secularism and liberalism are the main two things we should force in this country, and ESPECIALLY in Caucasus because it's the most conservative region

This 2bh. Make economy work and climb out of 19th century are the main goals.
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>>75263483
>There was big Navalny rally in 26th of March in Makhachkala
>big
>literally just 40 people showed up
>in a city with 593 thousand inhabitants
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>>75263783
I have heard this "san francisco" comparision before, but is that just because of it's location and how it looks? like is there a big artist community there or something. I am interested
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>>75258279
What is Siberia like? Can you post a pic of your surroundings outside please
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>>75263964
not him, but like any other Russian cities: commieblocks&commieblocks

t. another Siberian
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>>75264059
What is the weather like right now? What do people do for fun?
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>>75263964
Novosibirsk, largest city of Sibera
>>75264059 is spot on, endless commieblocks + nice nature
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>>75264091
right now it's +12
yesterday it was +22 at that time (and it's 22:00 now)

>What do people do for fun?
shitposting on 4chan
unironically, all my uni's wi-fi dots were banned here for shitposting
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>>75264091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op7YP_PK3n0
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>>75264186
>>75264233
Doesn't seem too bad. Sort of comfy.
>>75264245
Are they alright?
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>>75264245
there is fire in taiga literally every year desu
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>>75264281
Some people died, i'm not sure how many.
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>>75264429
rip
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>>75260435
Isn't the guy in center left cast in Leviafan?
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>>75264281
It's not bad at all, it's just the same as everywhere in Russia.

picrelated was my neighborhood though i lived in a commieblockish house
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>>75264664
Looks nice desu. Would live there.
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>>75264644
Yes. And guy on left was playing a Jesus in one movie.
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>>75256722
>I went to Kalmykia once
why would anyone do it
americans are fucking weird
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>>75263938
it's big progress and courage for them. It's not like walkin out in Moscow where nothing serious will happen with you

t. someone who protested during 26th march
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Which is better: Rostov-na-Donu or Vladivostok?
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>>75267594
Vladivostok.
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I've been to spb, vyborg and murmansk and I unironically liked vyborg and murmansk more. Don't know how Moscow is but I think kinda similar to spb
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>>75267594
Rostov
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Russian buildings creep me the fuck out. I mean it's uncanny valley tier.

There was a Russian church that was covered in snow that look amazing though I can't find it anymore on google.
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>>75266973
What's wrong with Kalmykia?
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>>75267980
Moscow is even worse. Its very overpopulated, traffic, you spend hours in the traffic jams here
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>>75256764
Because its not a priority
Its also a bit more complicated than that, but in practice: All cities outside of Moscow is in a lot of ways feudal city states.
And the countryside is..... not well funded

>>75259543
As somebody who barely lives over the polar circle, i understand why settlements isn't over it.
The winter darkness is simply too deep. The summer's evil eye is too bright.

And the angle to the sun, means that sunlight lacks the nutritional value it would have further south. So plants can't be as fertile.
Nevermind the permafrost and proximity to the north pole, without a gulf stream.
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>>75256550
Fuck you bitch t ural
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