Europe now bases it's borders based on genes. Who becomes

>>74989379
binland :DD

>>74989379
Us, as always :DDDDD

Bad idea to give Germany more clay, especially so if it's Bohemian clay :DD

>>74989379
R1bistan would rekt every Europeans

>>74989474
this

this is not how genes work you autist

>Italy
>Czechia
>Finland


Anyways how south can you into Iberia until people start not looking like R1B.

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>>74989445
This :D

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>>74989567
>no r1a in russia

>>74989379
>Ireland having the same genes as France
No

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>>74989601
He is implying that we're West Euros are Noth Africans and Russians Mongols


>>74989567
Shall i remind you which country openly celebrate the terrorists that kill Danes?

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>>74989676
>Russians
>Not white europeans

>>74989638
it doesn't work how you think it does
technically, ireland and france are both R1b dominant, but that doesn't mean that they share the same genes

for instance, britain and spain share even less in common genetically but are both r1b dominant

>>74989676
Other muslims?

>>74989379
I am greek.

>>74989753
You mean Tanned Danes

>>74989379
Definitely R1b.

>>74989743
This should quite honestly be directed at >>74989379

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>>74989638
Speak more politely to your daddy, son

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>>74989743
>>74989854

This one is better.

>>74989922
>Northwestern Iberia

Fucking Napoleon.

>>74989740
You wish mutt

>>74989950
>Czechs closer than Hungarians to Romanians
doubt.jpg

>>74989560
I don't know about your country, but there's no difference here aside from more tan.

>>74990059
It has nothing to do with Napoleon

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>>74990527
Nevermind, it just looks that way because the pic is so low quality

>>74989567
Haha, we're fugged

>>74989676
No. That dont mix with my world view so surely it must be fake.

Isn't it funny that the best countries in europe are the ones with r1b solely?
Like look at the empire of language of portugal,spain and england

>>74990059
Nigger,how much percentage of crusaders in iberia do you think were french?Our first king was the son of a burgundy guy

>>74991056
>>74991413

Are you telling me we're part French.

>>74990059
>>74991413


It has nothing with the French or Napoleon kek

R1b-sublades in Portugal are linked to the Lusitanians + the Celtiberians

>>74991793
We're just joking.
It's pretty fucking obvious that R1b is the celtic haplogroup

>>74991886
It is Italo-Celto-Germanic

>>74991917
It is Italo-Celto-Basque

>>74991917
>germanic
That's I1
>italo
that his J2

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>>74991917
>Italic

It is Celtic, once again R1b in Italy is mainly found in Northern Italy aka Cisalpine Gaul

>Germanic

French Rape Train.jpg incoming

>>74992068
Weird. Celtic is the biggest in our Northern Parts.

I do wonder if Celts had a hard on for rain.

Northern Italy, Alps, Northwestern Iberia, Britanny, Ireland etc

>>74992170
>northern italy
>rainy

It's like brits are ashamed of their french blood

>>74989638
we
WUZ
CEEEEEEEEELTS

>>74992284
For the english it's like having to choose between the vikings or the normans.
In any case,what haplogroup would the saxons have?

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>>74991917
Instead of French Rape Train.jpg have Germany.jpg

>>74992170
They loved water sources, so i bait they loved rain too

>>74989379
germany

>>74992371
It's kinda funny how all scandinavia get's grouped into germanics.
The germans really cucked everyone and managed to hide the fact that they were actually the cucked ones.

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>>74992245
You're joking right?

>>74992371

They seemed cool guys. To bad they got ROMANED and GERMANIKED.

>>74992044
No. R1b is Italo-Celto-Germanic. All three language groups are Indo-European and as a result must have come from either R1a, R1b or both as these are the haplogroups associated with the Proto-Indo-Europeans.

>>74992498
That's switzerland,not italy and besides,nobody lives in that part of italy

>>74992532
Shut the fuck up Biaggio Bombini

>>74992682
I am an Anglo-Saxon.

Let's have a moment to talk about the Swiss

They're literally gauls/frenchmen having a germanic culture, aren't they?

(Same for the Belgians)

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>>74992498
True
Their tribal structure and their way of life was comfy as fuck

>>74992473
Kek


>>74992532
>Conquer non Germanic lands
>Don't genocide non Germanics
>Later claim that you aren't mixed and that these haplogroups are natives to the Germanic tribes

Autistic desu

So where did celts actually come from.We know that they didn't come from the british isles.
I think they lived in iberia+france and then migrated to the british isles.
We can see that because of iberian dna in wales and shiet.
we wuz
i feel like a nigger claiming egyptian ancestry

>>74993130
afaik they came from the british isles and migrated down south

>>74993178
That makes no fucking sense.
How can they surge from a fucking island?
The migration came from east to west.
Portugal was actually the last european country to be populated.

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>>74993130
>>74993178


OLD UP


https://youtu.be/_5_ARd_6924

>>74989474
Pretty much.

>>74993178
East to West, actually

From Central Asia, IIRC

Praise Tengriccos

>>74989567
Your country isn't even Germanic. It's C*eltic.

>>74989638
Same ancestral father senpai.

c'mere brother

>>74993130
>I think they lived in iberia+france and then migrated to the british isles.


Tacitus agree with you

11. Who were the original inhabitants of Britain, whether they were indigenous or foreign, is, as usual among barbarians, little known. Their physical characteristics are various, and from these conclusions may be drawn. The red hair and large limbs of the inhabitants of Caledonia point clearly to a German origin. The dark complexion of the Silures, their usually curly hair, and the fact that Spain is the opposite shore to them, are an evidence that Iberians of a former date crossed over and occupied these parts. Those who are nearest to the Gauls are also like them, either from the permanent influence of original descent, or, because in countries which run out so far to meet each other, climate has produced similar physical qualities. But a general survey inclines me to believe that the Gauls established themselves in an island so near to them.

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>>74989922
Are you the pannonian autist?

>>74992498
Nearly all the capitals are in the dry spots for each country... really makes you think

>>74993541
>Danes
>Celtic

>>74993563
Republicanism is the only thing we have in common

>>74992358
l1

>>74989379
What determines citizenship in these nations? What if you are I1 but living in R1b?

>>74989379
>Genes
>only y haplogroups women don't have

Literally ignores the universal mitochondrial haplogroups which all people actually have.

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>>74989379
>people STILL using haploshit when deep ancestry admixture is available
holy shit get with the times

>>74992498
>paris becomes more and more non white
>the sky thinks it is africa and the rain drop becomes africa tier

>>74989464
>us
>as always
keep dreaming kraut

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>>74993612
>Pannonian autist
You mean "the only French who cares about his culture and want to protect it from g*rmanic schemes"


>>74992358
Saxon sample is I1

>>74993789
ayo so we're mediterranean n shit now?

>>74993620
Yes. So are you. Filthy continental. Even Finland is more European than any of you continentals.

>>74993666
nice try satan

but we have a common ancestor like pretty much all western europe.

>you will never meet your ultra alpha ancestors and see the disapointment in his eyes as he sees you

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>>74993927
To some degree, yes.

>Rolnicy i hodowcy krów kultury TRB docierają do Danii i pd. Szwecji około 6000lat temu (l1) ?
Farmers and herders of the cows, from TRB culture come to Denmark and South Sweden around 6000 years ago. (l1?)
>4000-3000 lat temu l1 była już w PD. SZwecji
4000-3000 years ago l1 was alrady in South Sweden
>Ok 5000-4500 lat temu Europę Środkową.....
Around 5000-4500 years ago, Central Europe and Scandinavia is invaded by Indo-Europeans, they conquer and decimate the natives, it causes Population bottleneck effect (l1 haploshit), from this time and this one l1 person you can date all l1 male Y-DNA.
>Osobnik BAB5 ze stanowiska....
Sample BAB5 from Balatonszemes-Bagódomb belonged to l1 and lived 7000 years ago

Haplogroup l1 has over 27000 years, even though 5000-4500 years ago it was almost extinct, originally
it belonged to hunter-gatherers in South and South East of Europe, and Western Anatolia, later part of that population became farmers, sample of the l1 BAB5 was found in the LBK culture grave.

I'll make the picture in english once I get home.

>>74993927
You know those Norwegians with brown hair and brown eyes?

I have bad news for you.

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>>74993927
Let's say there are more important components.

>>74993884
that pannonia theory is far fetched and too weak. Franks were never l1 so what's the issue about admitting they were germanized r1b people who lived in what is now germany

>>74994024
Once again not really true.

Original Pre-IE Europeans used to be "swarthier".

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>>74994060
They had blue eyes, though.

>>74993666
Nice try, Satan

Say it with me, brothers!

HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US

>>74994060
It was a joke don't worry.

>Original Pre-IE Europeans used to be "swarthier".


So I've heard. I remember reading somewhere on /int/ that Iberians were really swarthy but got so bleached by Celts that it completely changed them over the the course of 1000's of years.


Not sure if true.

>>74993789
>30-40%

Depressing.

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>>74994101
Some of them yeah.
>>74994131
pic rel

>>74994101

And now I have pale skin but brown eyes.


10/10 Euro genetics.

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>tfw brits are franks in denial

>>74994212
I know that feel

I don't even look like a med

>>74994142
>West-Eurasian K8
Trash

>>74994039
>that pannonia theory is far fetched and too weak

Quite the contrary look at link related, Frankish graves* have Avar** materials in them, and the oldest sources mentiond that the Franks came from Pannonia

*https://j2-m172.info/2015/04/three-j2-found-at-merovingian-buriel-site-roman-frankish-transitional-period/

**At that time Avars inhabited Pannonia btw, see : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannonian_Avars

>>74994297
Neither do I.

People told me I look Brit/French on Erasmus.
Fun stuff really, I look average in my hometown here in Portugal.

Granted, small town in the North but still.

>>74994399
Nowadays looking like a french or brit can mean anything really.

>>74994260
Why is Northern Portugal Galicia and Asturias always the goddamm special snowflakes on all maps regarding genetics.

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>>74994399
>tfw shiteyes because of my father

Merci, p'pa :^)

>>74994447
Northern Portugal is based and honorary white

>>74994447
Norther portugal got fucked by the suebis,vikings,romans,celtiberians,so on.Literally every haplogroup except or the finnish and the r1a is present here

>>74994438

Also true.

>>74994474
WE WUZ BRITONS :3

The blonde ''gene'' mutated 11 thousand years ago in scandinavia.

>>74994756
>tfw ashamed of my breton heritage

Instead, I'm trying to get more informations about my "normand origins"

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>>74993989
fugg, made the typos.

here :D

>more genetically similar to fucking ukrainians than to southwestern serbs

excuse me but we are semites and kangz thanks

This is a surprisingly civil thread given how these thread usually end up

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>>74995193
>>74993989
Also updated my Slavic ethnos to non-bait version.

>2800BC: During Corded Ware Expansion, Kurgan people with haplogroup R1a-M458(to this day M458 is present in big % in Poland) come to Poland, they're later known as Vistula Veneti/Wends. Rest of the Kurgan people(both R1a and R1b) go to Scandinavia and take control over paleolithic l1 cro-magnons, give them IE language and war-like culture, that mixture of R1b, R1a Kurgans and l1 with l2 native paleothic hunter-gatherers creates Germanics.

>During late Iron Age:
East Germanics enter territory of the Vistula Veneti(currently not known if by force, or just as migrants/refugees) And they start to assimilate Veneti, cultural exchange takes place. How do we know this? Veneti R1a-M458 was found as far as Sardinia, the only people that went there were Romans and Vandals.

>Much later Goths that go to Ukraine meet the Proto-Slavic culture (Zarubintsy culture) and influence them, but get partially Slavicized.
>Some time later, meaning after the fall of Rome or before that, people from Zarubintsy culture rush through modern-day Polish territory and absorb East Germanics, Wends/Veleti on the way and that creates the Polish/West Slavic ethnos.

Slavic and Germanic expansions didn't change the core M458 population of Poland.
Germanic influence had a huge impact on the Polish and West Slavic ethnos. Shaping West Slavic ethnos was also isolated from Eastern one, that had huge Baltic, Scythian and Uralic influence to it. In case of the Czechs it was also Celtic tribes, such as Boii(Bohemia).

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>>74995436
Poland doesn't look germanic.Even their military looks very ukranian,very cossack like.
pff,pathetic

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>>74994142
>k8

Wew lad there's already K15 and soon K20

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>>74995715
>Poland doesn't look germanic
What do you mean?

East Germans and Poles look indistinguishable. East Germany is populated mainly by Germanised West Slavs(not russian rapebabies) and East Germanics.
>Even their military looks very ukranian,very cossack like.
To understand it, you must read into Polish history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism

>>74995715
>>74995801
Forgot to take the meme name off.

Early Poland, meaning the Piast Poland was seen as a Western country and played in Western politics. Everything changed with diplomatic expansion into East.

>Slav doing anything he can to distance himself from other Slavs
Really makes you think. Is this the famous Polish self-hatred in action?

>>74989379
>bases it's borders based on genes.

>national borders are still the same, countries are not broken up
Are you retarded?

>>74995002
Don't be. Britanny seems comfy as fuck.

>>74995715
culture is not genetic you dummy

>>74997059
this

>>74996945
I think you have some reading problems.

Poles and other West Slavs were never close to Eastern Slavs. To claim so, you must be delusional or know nothing about the subject.

Looks like poland is going to be fucked up again by this map :)

>>74989676
He killed a jew.