>tfw everything and everyone has been influenced by the greeks

I am Greek

someone should take the first step and civilize the cave dwelling humanity

I am geek

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>>74966250
europe owes the biggest debt to greece, if it wasn't for you all, there would be nothing.

they had city state polity for a very rather separate but unified culture, perfect for copying egyptian and myocean ideas and incorporating them

a perfect test bed for ideas, an argument for multiculturalism in the modern world

>>74966339
>europe owes the biggest debt to greece

got that reversed there buddy

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not by modern "greeks" though
ancient greeks were in fact black

>>74966369
wrong, greece should be eternally serviced by fucking snownigger barbarian yuropoors like yourself

wh*te pig

They could spread civilization, because the civilization itself evolved in Mesopotamia and (later?) in Egypt. From Egypt it went to Creta (Minoan Culture) and mainland greece (Mycean culture). Then Minoan, Mycean, Hitite and Assyryan civilization got rekt (and Egypt also got damage and fell later), Greece fell into dark ages for hundreds of years. When they recovered, there was no competition. Luckies.

>>74966140
Ikibey bait thread #4987524548574

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Don't discount Indians' contribution to civilization, too.

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>>74966805
Or China's.

>>74966441
>Mycenean

these people gave birth to ancient greece

the two golden centruries (5th and 4th BC) of Classical Greece should be praised along with early Hellenistic Era (3th-2th BC) after the roman conquest there was a big stagnation in terms of scientific, cultural achievements and democratic values of free thinking man.
Then reneissance and enlightment continued the progress.

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>tfw the Greeks even influenced Japan

>>74966140
Start with the Greeks

>>74966805
Initiate with the Indians

>>74966822
Convene with the Chinese

>>74966822
Or Africa's

oh wait

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>>74966822
The Egyptians also get some points for being one of the earliest civilizations.

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You are know aware that there was a Greek-speaking Buddhism-practising kingdom in what is today Afghanistan.

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>>74966918
Not to mention the civilizations in and around Mesopotamia.

>>74966923
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhist_art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenistic_influence_on_Indian_art

you will find some serious greek influence in indian and east asian architecture here.

>>74966938
Too bad that got ruined by a fat eceleb autist

>>74966938
>>74966918
literally early farmers

>>74966441
The basic gist of it is: Civilisation (Sumer) appears in Mesopotamia (Modern day Iraq) over time you get more civilisations appearing in the Middle East (and 1 in Africa). You get the Hittites in Turkey, Elamites in Iran, Assyria and Babylon in Iraq, Canaanites in Lebanon/Syria, Minoans and Myceans in Southern Europe and finally Egypt in East Africa. After the Bronze Age Collapse, all these civilisations collapsed except for Egypt who was only weakened and in that power vacuum the Phoenicians were able to rise in power as a merchant empire and they created multiple colonies. They also helped prop up the Greeks economy through trade. Then the Greeks became a powerful civilisation.

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>>74967412
It's interesting to speculate why the Greeks rose up (eventually in terms of Alexander the Great etc.) and the Phonicians didn't. Probably too obsessed with trade and earnings and nothing else.
>inb4 muh Hannibal
self defense, not an argument

>>74967775
Phoenicians were child-sacrificing edgelords

>>74966617
>t. turk

>>74967775
Well, the Phoenician's were a thalassocratic civilisation. So most of their empire was more about maritime and not land. A lot of what we think are Greek concepts were actually Phoenician in origin. Democracy, Spreading of the Alphabet, Re opening of the trade routes, multi-tiered oared ships, even Zeus, Poseidon and Hades were based off Hadad, Yam and Mot. Greeks, Etruscans, and Romans freely admitted what they owed to the Phoenicians. >>74967951
That's Carthage.

>>74968106
>Democracy originates in Phoenicia

Thanks m8, I'll read something more about that.

>>74968106
imo it was a trade war between phoenicians and greeks since both were thalassocratic
people, but in the end greeks won the trade because they were better at war clashes. So they were the most popular mercenaries across the civilized world (Herodotus' Anabasis, Naucratis colony in Egypt, Naucratis literally means naval victory).
I'm refering to the incidents before the classical period because after it phoenicia became literally a greek colony (Tyre).

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>>74967775
>Probably too obsessed with trade and earnings and nothing else.
You couldn't be more right, here is an excerpt from the Phoenicia wikipedia page on what Plato says about them: "In his Republic, Greek philosopher Plato contends that the love of money is a tendency of the soul found amongst Phoenicians and Egyptians, which distinguishes them from the Greeks who tend towards the love of knowledge.[142] In his Laws, he asserts that this love of money has led the Phoenicians and Egyptians to develop skills in cunning and trickery (πανουργία) rather than wisdom (σοφία).[143]"

Apparently they were the jews of antiquity.

>>74968874
Love for money is semetic trait, greeks despised material wealth and worshipped wealth of knowledge. They laughed at the vanity of golden fortune that persian and egyptian kings had when they were invited to their palaces in order to explain the meaning of life through their teachings of philosophy

>>74966140
i am greek

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>>74966369

>>74969097
funny how the greek language still survives today but the extinct egyptian and phoenician languages were subdued by ayyrabs and those regions now speak ayyrabic. it seems nerds are more powerful than jews. interesting.

It really isn't a joke that people are jealous of Greece.

success breeds jealousy

I am greek

>>74966339
A Viking Europe would be good tho.

Because Romans were greekaboos

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>>74972510
you wont get white because you mention those subhumans

>>74972819
>brazilians would eat this
Why?

>>74969443
Some areas in the Middle East still speak Pre-Islamic conquest languages. Copts in Egypt speak a bastardised version of Ancient Egypt.